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What if I told you that your destiny includes a role so profound,
so mind-boggling, that it could
change the way you see every challenge and every moment in your life?
Paul makes a bold statement in Corinthians, something that, if we truly grasp
it, could revolutionize how we live today.
He says that we, as believers, will one day judge angels.
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But what does that mean for us right now? And how does it ignite a fire within
us to live with greater confidence, purpose, and power?
This isn't just a theological concept.
It's a reality that's meant to shape how we walk through life,
how we handle the ups and downs, and how we embrace the purpose we're called to fulfill.
If you've ever doubted your worth or wondered if your life truly matters, this episode is for you.
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We're going to explore what it really means to judge angels,
why this future role should influence how we live today, and how this understanding
can transform your mindset, giving you the confidence to face anything life
throws your way with boldness and purpose.
So, are you ready to unlock this truth and step into the power and purpose you were meant to live?
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Let's go! So we hold on, and enjoy the ride.
Music.
After all the ups and downs, this is our time.
Enjoy the ride.
Alright, what's up everyone? How y'all doing? I hope you are doing amazing.
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Today we are going to dive right into what we are talking about.
As Christians, did you know this? That you will one day have the authority to judge angels.
Now that might seem preposterous to anyone that just heard that.
Anyone that just stumbled in here.
It is actually pulled from a specific passage in the Bible. We're going to look
at that in Corinthians where Paul the Apostle, he writes to the believers and
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he says that, Do you not know that you will one day be judging angels?
Take a step back and actually think about this.
Angels are not just some little babies that just float around and they have
little wings on them and they're so cute.
No, they are terrifying, monstrous beings that would just terrify us and just
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scare us to death if we encountered one.
If we actually ran into an angel, we would fall on our face and start worshiping it.
For Paul to say this is just absurd. Utterly absurd that when you become a believer
in Jesus, there is a very unique, special relationship that you have with Jesus of Nazareth.
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The Son of God, the Messiah, God incarnate. We get this phrase in the Bible
that is repeated over and over.
It's this beautiful phrase that I absolutely love and adore.
It is that we are in Christ. If you actually hash this out and unpack this and
what that little phrase means, in Christ,
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because that's how Paul, he uses it over and over in the Bible and the other
apostles as well, that when we trust in Jesus, we are in Christ, secure,
and basically His blood is our blood. His flesh is our flesh.
That's why we take the Lord's Supper. We eat and drink the blood of Jesus.
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I mean, for anyone out there, you know, I understand that this eating and drinking
a man's blood might sound kind of weird, but in the Christian context,
it's the most beautiful, amazing thing in the world that Jesus wants us to be
so connected with him that he says, you must eat and drink my blood.
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And that is what's so beautiful that we have our Messiah, our Lord's blood flowing
through our veins, whether it's spiritually, physically, you know,
that is, you know, for maybe another video, another debate, another day.
But it is a reality quality nonetheless, that as Christians,
we are so connected with our Lord and Savior that we are in Him, and He is in us.
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So what does this mean that we will judge angels?
And what is Paul even referring to? And let me pull up the verse,
first of all. The book of Corinthians is written to a church in Corinth.
And in this church, there are so many issues.
You think about issues in the church today? They had their issues back then,
just like we do, you know, a lot of them.
And a lot of them are that made it to the pages of scripture in the book of
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Corinthians. If you haven't read that, you should read it definitely.
And you see that, man, even though we got problems, they definitely had problems
then, even with the apostles walking on the earth at that time.
They had a plethora of problems, just like we do in the church today.
But in the church, there was brothers in the community of faith that were suing each other.
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They were saying, I've been wronged not only by just some casual person that
I run into, but an actual brother and sister in Christ.
And they were taking them to secular courts, the courts of the day that were
set up in Rome, and they were suing their brethren.
And Paul writes into that context and he says, what are you doing?
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Paul would have been an extremely passionate person. He would have been pulling his hair out.
He would have been like pulling his beard out. He's like, what is going on?
If you don't think Paul's passionate, read through the book of Galatians and
the language he uses in times like when he is upset.
All right, so 1 Corinthians, we're gonna actually, I'm gonna read to you just
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so you have the whole context of what Paul is writing and then he inserts that
phrase about we shall judge angels.
We'll check it out. We'll check it out.
So I'm going to read this to you. 1 Corinthians. I'm going to give you the whole
context. The whole context.
Okay. I am not, I do not tweak out. I sometimes might sound like that,
but hang on. All right, I'm going to give you the whole context so you have it.
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This is 1 Corinthians 6, through 6, and then let's see if you can hear that
little phrase that we're going
to talk about, the main phrase that we're talking about in this video.
It says, Paul writes, Dare any of you, having a matter against another,
go to law before the unrighteous and not before the saints?
Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?
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And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest
matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels?
How much more things that pertain to this life? If then you have judgments concerning
things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed
by the church to judge? I say this to your shame.
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Is it so that there is not a wise man among you, not even one,
who will be able to judge between his brethren?
But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers.
And that's the phrase that I just picture Paul just losing his mind as he's writing with his quill.
Or as he's probably saying it. And the person that's writing it for him,
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he's like, I can't believe it either. And then Paul's like, I know.
I know. Like, what are they thinking?
They're just doing a terrible witness to the outside world.
That they're suing the people that we are to be as close as humanly possible to. do.
Our brethren, and when we say brethren, I mean, because that is a churchy word, brethren in itself.
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Because whenever I became a Christian, I had to look up, what does brethren mean?
Because we don't use that phrase that often. But it means brothers.
It's the same thing as brothers, but I guess a more holy version.
I don't know. I don't know why we came up with that phrase or why we tended
to go the other way. But it means brothers.
He says, why are you going and suing your brothers in sisters, in Christ.
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It'd be like me and suing my literal brother in court or me and suing my mom or my dad in court.
That's preposterous. And that's the same deal with Christians in the church.
We cannot do that. And he's losing his mind. He's throwing his quill all over the place.
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And he's just losing it.
I mean, it's bleeding through the page, his passion about it.
But did you all hear the phrase?
It says, do you not know that we shall judge angels? angels,
and then before that phrase, he said that the saints shall judge the world.
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All right, let's take a step back. Let's take a step back. Let's take a breather. Take a chill pill.
Say that to myself. Let's take a step back. We as Christians are the meek. We are to be the meek.
We are to be the humble, the lowly of the earth.
We are to give place to others.
We are to put others above ourselves. We are not to, oh, we're not cutthroat in the church.
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We are not cutthroat. We are not trying to get up the chain,
like the political or corporate chain of the church, you know?
And when it becomes that, when you just want to get that position,
I want that position, you know?
Then it's like, no, we should not be doing that.
As Christians, we are the lowly. We are the ones to give others,
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put others ahead of ourselves.
And Paul's reminding them, even though it's this way now, take a step back and
understand your future existence and reality that you will experience.
We are going to be on the front line. We are going to be out there with Christ
when He comes back, and we are going to be executing judgment along with Christ,
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determining, making decisions.
Paul, and I think it's Jesus that actually said it, he says,
if you're faithful with little, because in this life we have little, you know?
We have little bits of responsibility that God gives us daily.
He gives us responsibility here, and a responsibility here. He tests us occasionally over here.
And he wants to see, like, are you going to be generous with what you have?
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Are you going to hoard it and keep it close to you? Are you going to not sacrifice yourself for others?
Or are you going to, like, take that last piece of the pie?
I think as a, I'm a Midwesterner, and at Midwesterners, we are, we're too kind.
If you go to any place, there's always one last piece of the pie.
There's one last piece of pizza.
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Nobody wants to take that last piece and it just goes bad, you know?
So that's just how it is, you know? And that's kind of how it is as Christians.
But Paul reminds these believers that even though we are the lowly,
we are the meek of the earth and we are to be that.
And we are to be servant leaders. We are to put others ahead of ourselves.
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In the eschatological end, age, you know, the future reality,
judgment day, the day that is coming, it is inevitable.
It's coming, you know, and it's the day of the Lord.
You know, it will be, I mean, I don't really want to, like, talk lightly of
it because it's a terrifying day to even think about, but as Christians,
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it's like we almost, we look forward to, we anticipate, because it'll be the
beauty of of Christ, our risen Savior,
coming back, that King, heralding that King, coming to the earth and saying,
Lord God, thank you. You're back.
You're here. And whether we have gone to be with the Lord and we will be coming
with Him, or we will go to meet Him in the air.
Actually, we will all go to meet Him in the air, because it says that the souls
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will return to their bodies, the dead in Christ will rise first,
and whoever's alive, then we'll all go up to meet Him in the the air.
So I guess it's not just that we're going to go meet our future ancestors,
and they're going to actually come out of the graves.
If you see the graves opening up, and you see the earth start shaking, get ready.
Get ready. It's coming.
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I am not a doomsday person, but this is a doomsday that is coming.
This is a real. So this isn't like something just, we're making it up.
It's not making it up. It's real.
And whether people don't want to believe that or not, or people want want to
suppress it and not even think about it.
Think about just our nine to five day before me, I got to go to work.
I got to go put food on the table. I got to put my kids through college and
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I got to, you know, buy, buy whatever and buy groceries, buy clothing,
or that's just, you know, going to go old and everything like all,
everything we have in front of us.
It's so, it seems like it's so important.
It seems like it's so important, but when really it, none of it is important.
And You know, you want to claw your way up the corporate chain and try to get that other position.
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You know, I want to have that position. So, you know, not so other people can
have it, but because I want it. Because I want that success.
I want people to look at me and say, hey, he's successful.
He knows what he's doing in life. But it's all vanity. You know, it doesn't matter.
Like all that stuff is just going to be rubbish in the end.
And all that will matter and go along with us is the good things that we have
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done for other people in this life.
Those are the things that we will carry with us. Those are the valuable things
that will stand the test and stand the fire, that God's fire will test every person's work.
And whether they were... Because the things that we do, it can look so nice
and neat and beautiful to the world and just like, and just build our ego,
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get that ego pumping, you know?
I gave this much to the church, or I gave this much to that homeless person, or I did this, I did that.
God sees our heart. Because really, it's just your heart, what your heart is
doing and why you're doing the things that you're doing that even matters.
What people visibly see doesn't even matter one iota. It does not matter at all.
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It might build us up and make us feel good. We might be able to post it on TikTok,
a good deed that I did, but it doesn't matter. It does not matter whatsoever.
What matters is how God views it, how God sees it, and how He knows what our
heart is and what state it is in when we are doing it.
Are we doing it for our own applause or are we doing it for God's glory?
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Are we doing it to help and to genuinely help other people?
You know, I know I give myself a rah-rah speech Because I do that because it's
like When I'm preaching to the choir I'm preaching to myself Because I'm my
ultimate choir You know, that has to be preached at It's like just reminder,
reminder Why are you doing the things that you're doing?
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Think about it Actually think it through You know Don't just do things to do
things And it just be for nothing And just It not last, you know This life is so short It's so short.
It's it's it's going to be over in an instant i know we go through the the day-to-day
and the day-to-day just like it's just it's right before our eyes it's all that
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we can experience it's all that we see every that what we're going through it's
all that we can see taste touch or feel
but it doesn't matter none of it matters really seriously you might be able
to think of all the stuff you know who people are out there you're you're people
out there going to work they're they're providing for the families good things
you know people are i think i'm just thinking about,
but people doing things on social media,
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because that is the way we're going, because we want to build our ego.
We want other people to see us and say, man, he's got it together.
He knows what he's doing in life. He's successful.
When everybody don't give a dang about nothing, nobody cares whatsoever.
Nobody cares what you're doing.
Outside of the four walls of your head, nobody Nobody cares.
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Nobody cares. The one who does care and genuinely cares and will forever care is God.
God cares, and He cares what He's making us. He cares what He—that's why He
is putting us through the fire.
That's why He is putting us through the test that we go through,
because He is creating us to be something beautiful.
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But I'm talking about all this in this context of believers in Christ going
at each other's throats, taking each other to the court, and it's like,
and Paul's just like, what are you doing, man? And he has to remind them.
That's what a lot of the Bible is, and with God's relationship with us,
it's him bringing us to our senses.
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He takes us and he says, hey, what you doing?
And he's knocking. He's like, why are you doing that?
And when we start reflecting, what is my motivation? What is compelling me to do this?
If we actually just genuinely reflect internally and in our mind,
why are we doing the things that we're doing? Are we doing it to build our kingdom?
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Are we doing it to build God's kingdom? But in that phrase, in that whole passage
that Paul writes, he's writing to these believers that he loves genuinely.
His heart would just burn, and he would have the fire in his heart that it would just,
eat him alive when he thought of these other teachers that were going in there
and teaching people false things and leading people down wrong ways, you know?
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And he said he had the daily just like consuming burn on his mind where he's
just like, I guess you think of it as a parent.
I think of it as a parent, a mother or a father that thinks about their children.
And it's just like, I can protect my kids only so long.
I'm going to have them in my four walls only so long,
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but eventually they're going to have to experience this world out there and
to think that someone could do something wrong to them or that could not,
I mean, doing something wrong to someone is one thing, but to actually.
Have an impact on someone to change the course in the direction that they're
going and lead an influencer,
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to be an influencer and someone to come into their life that a person looks
up to, like your child looks up to them so much, and this influencer comes out that they just adore.
They're just like a rock star. They're looking at them. They're just like,
I can't get enough of this person. I want to be like that person.
But then that influencer, whether it's like a really important person or it's
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just a friend that comes into their life and starts leading them down a bad
trail and starts influencing their life in a bad way and taking them off the straight and narrow.
And Paul sees that, and he's just pulling his hair out.
Because Paul, he saw these false teachers, because they would have been,
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and he calls them super apostles.
There are super men in the Bible, but in some contexts, they're not too good of people.
He calls them these super apostles. Paul was an eccentric dude,
and that sounds so disrespectful talking about him.
But I think in heaven, whenever I meet Paul and I talk to him face-to-face,
and he says, hey, I saw you doing that podcast, or he might have it on a reel.
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We might be watching it in heaven. It's like, you were talking about me.
What were you even thinking talking about me like that? We probably will laugh. We'll probably laugh.
We'll have eternity to spend with all of our brothers and sisters in Christ.
And probably we'll have like all these reels happen and
all these kind of videos you know like we'll be like hey remember
this time we'll have our little heavenly phones away hey remember
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this remember this one we'll be showing somebody you know i'm being
foolish i'm being foolish and silly you know but they're you know they're i
i do think of it as in and when we get to heaven like because there's so many
things in human history that i wish i would have saw and i i think there's going
to be something like that this is going to be next level i'm sure next level that
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we'll be able to see some type of huge screen and see, be able to see huge events.
Like I want to see when David went against Goliath.
I want to see when Jephthah and Gideon went up and all the, those judges in
the old Testament went to battle.
You know, I want to see those huge events. I want to see what Jesus,
I know we do have, we do have videos and things that are made right now.
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You know, the chosen that's out there and, and all these movies and shows about,
about Jesus. this, but I want to see it as it really happened, you know?
I know I sometimes be silly, but these are the things I think about,
and I don't know if you all think about that, but to me, it's fun. To me, it's fun.
All right, so we're going to switch gears a little bit, and I'm going to go
to that phrase, in Christ, when it talks about that, we're going to read a few
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passages about that and that phrase, so you have what I'm even talking about when I bring that up.
This is, everyone, you got to memorize this passage.
If you're anyone, you got to memorize this, because this is something you've
got to hold in your heart. Galatians 2.20.
Because this is an amazing reality.
It's not something that's just made up in a hopeful way.
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Fleeting fantasy that we want and desire. We just want it to be so true, but it's not.
It's a reality. And Paul writes this. And this is not just Jesus died for everyone. He died for all.
But this is personal. This is personal.
Paul writes, Jesus didn't just die for everyone. Jesus died for me.
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When he was on that cross, he was thinking of me.
When he died on that cross, He was dying literally for me personally.
All right, this is that passage Paul writes in Galatians 2.20.
He says, I have been crucified with Christ.
It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me.
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And the life which I now live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God
who loved me and gave himself for me.
You got to memorize that passage because that is an amazing reality, amazing truth.
That we should, we always hold near and dear to us. And this next passage,
it says in Romans 8.1, there is therefore now no condemnation to those who are
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in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Those who are in Christ Jesus, in Christ Jesus.
And if we read through, I'm going to, I'm going to read it. All right.
And this is Ephesians 1, 3 through 4.
It says, blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,
who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,
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just as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world,
that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.
He chose us in him, in Christ.
Our identity is in Christ as a Christian.
That's why Paul writes in Philippians, I'm not even going to go read there because I just have it.
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He says, for me to live is Christ and to die is gain to live is Christ that
Paul understood that like right now, what I'm doing is Christ.
When I go to the grocery store, it's Christ. When I go to work, it's Christ.
When I do whatever with my family, when I do anything out there in this life,
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when I go to a football game or a basketball game or a soccer game or whatever,
sports game, whatever, if I do anything in this life, it's Christ.
It is Christ. I am Christ, and I am walking around, and I am—that's why we are
Christians. We are little Christ.
You know, He is in us, and we are in Him. It's a beautiful reality,
and it should give us joy and peace.
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To think that, like, that's why when God the Father looks at us,
He doesn't see our sin anymore.
He doesn't see the bad things that we've done or that we do or that we'll do, but Christ covers us.
He covers us in and out.
God the Father looks at us, and He sees perfection.
He sees righteousness because we are in Him, and Christ is in us, and that's God's plan.
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That's how we can be with Him him in heaven. Sin and evil and anything bad or
dark cannot enter God's presence.
God's eyes are too pure to look at sin. He cannot look at it.
He's perfect. He's holy. So it's like he can't look at it. And how that all
works and how that all happens, I don't know.
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But to me, it's like a car running.
I don't understand all the ins and outs of what's going on. I'm sure there's
There's a mechanic out there that does, but to me, I don't understand how what's
happening, but I do know that it's working.
The car's going, you know, and how everything happens with God and his way,
his plan of salvation and how it's carried out.
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We, we know that it's working and we know that it happens, but all the ins and
outs, the divine things that are happening, happening behind the scenes that
we don't fully see what's under the hood and what's going on.
God, he's got it. He's got it under control. So we don't need to worry about
that, but he has it under control.
And that's the reality that we live in, you know? All right,
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so now we understand that we are in Christ.
You, Christian, are in Christ.
I'm going to say it over and over. I love that phrase. All right,
and then next, we need to realize that we will reign with Christ,
that we will reign with Christ in heaven.
And these are a few different passages. And it says that in Ephesians 2,
6, it says, And raised us up together and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
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All right? And then also, I'm going to read Revelation 3.21.
This is Jesus talking, and he's writing to one of the churches.
He says, To him who overcomes, I will grant to sit with me on my throne,
as I also overcame and sat down by my Father on his throne.
And then also in 2 Timothy 2.12, Paul writes, He says, If we endure,
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we shall also reign with him.
If we deny him, he also will deny us.
So there is that sense that as Christians.
We are so connected with Jesus in Christ that we will and do,
in a sense, right now, spiritually, we are seated with Him in the heavenly places,
but in the future, we will reign with Him.
When Christ is reigning on earth, we will be there right alongside with Him, reigning as well.
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We will be making judgments over this world.
We will be given so much more responsibility.
All right, and lastly, that sense that we are in Christ, I want to pull this
passage in here. here, we are partakers of the divine nature.
And this is in 2 Peter 1, 3-4.
As His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness
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through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue,
by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises,
that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
So, when we are in Christ, we have trust in Christ, we are, in a sense,
we are sharers of the divine nature.
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We get to be partakers of the divine nature.
We won't ever become God, you know, we are finite creatures,
but we get to share in his divine nature.
And how that, that's the whole, also the under the hood kind of thing.
I, you know, I can take a step back and kind of just hypothesize and give speculation.
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All right. So having looked at all these different angles, now we can kind of
get a glimpse of why Paul just kind of inserts that little phrase when he's
talking to these believers in Corinth.
And he says, do not know Christians that the saints will be judging the world.
And not only that, we are going to be judging angels.
And like in that kind of that culture back then, they were almost worshiping angels.
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There's a lot of things that were happening, Even within Judaism,
it was very enticing to almost go so far as to say, I'm going to give adoration
to these beautiful beings that are out there.
It's like you get so caught in this wave of just, your heart just yearns for
these things that are out there. You think of your guardian angels.
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You think of these angels that are all around us and how powerful they are and
how awesome they are. Your heart gets so full and you start almost wanting to
worship this creature that is just a creature.
But Paul is saying those types, those angelic beings that the saints,
the people of God are going to be judging and making determinations over them.
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So it's an incredible thing to keep in mind that whatever you're doing your
day to day and going to work, taking care of your life, taking care of your family and others, you.
Do not get bogged down. Do not get brought down and thinking,
I can't handle it. I can't do what I need to do.
I'm not good enough. I can't make those decisions. I can't take care of myself or others, you know?
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And you start worrying about the pressures of life and it just being coming upon you.
Have that reminder that Paul the apostle gave, and he just said,
you are going to be judging angels.
So you can make those decisions in this life. You are strong enough to do that.
You know, we can, as Christians, reach ahead into that reality,
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that existence that is ours for the taking in the future and take it upon ourselves now.
So you will be making determinations, Christian. You will be in the future making
decisions and judgments and reigning with Christ.
So whatever you're going through in this life, you got this.
You got this and you can reach ahead into that future reality that is yours,
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that is there and for the taking.
So I hope you all take something from this.
I hope you all can apply this to your lives and have confidence.
Whatever you're doing, God has given you responsibility.
He's going to give you so much more, but you can experience that responsibility
now and assume it upon yourself now and have confidence in whatever you're doing.
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You will judge angels in the future how much easier the things in this life. So you got this.
So I hope you all have a wonderful day, and I'll see you in the next one.
So we hold on and enjoy the ride.
Music.
After all the ups and downs, this is our time.
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Enjoy the ride.
Can you see it? There's a distance.
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Until next time, stay blessed and keep shining.