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June 20, 2025 26 mins

What makes someone give up one dream to chase another?

In this episode, Ollie Lawrence shares how he left behind a promising football future to go all-in on rugby—and went pro at just 16. He talks about the pressure of making that decision, and how his childhood heroes helped shape his playing style.

We get into what it really takes to play centre at the highest level—plus the lesser-known skills that separate the good from the great. Ollie breaks down the advice that stuck with him, how he bounced back from injury, and what his matchday prep looks like, from nutrition to mental mantras.

There’s also chat about Finn Russell, the best opponents Ollie’s ever faced, and a behind-the-scenes look at what it’s like living the pro rugby lifestyle.

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