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Hi, this is Dr.
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Soma.
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Today, ANMA says, I'm thrilled to welcome Amy White, founder and CEO of the simplicity of wellness.
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Amy is a board certified holistic nutritionist, functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioner and certified life coach dedicated to helping women transform their health with sustainable.
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Science-backed habits over the past 15 plus years.
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She's guided midlife women through her signature, hangry to Healthy Program and weekly podcast, empowering them to balance hormones, shed pounds, and rebuild energy without restrictive diets.
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Amy's warm, practical, and evidence-driven approach has inspired women in their forties and fifties to feel confident in their bodies again.
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No guilt.
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No yo-yo dieting, she's known for translating complex nutrition science into simple, actionable steps that fit real life.
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I can't wait to dive into her mindset shifts, nutrition strategies, and the secrets behind lasting wellness.
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Amy, welcome to Soma Says I.
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we have to respond to our body signals respectfully.
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Because we are all hearing our body telling us what's working and what's not working.
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I wanted to extend an official welcome to my podcast.
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Soma says You have a fascinating story.
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You have your own business, the simplicity of wellness.
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And then you have this from Hangry to healthy, so I wanted to learn about all of that.
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Tell us what you do and what kind of clients do you usually serve? I am 58.
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And I started getting into the nutrition world.
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I entered the nutrition world right around in my early forties, and that was solely because I had a daughter who had gut issues and we conventionally couldn't get that cleared up with medicine.
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It was a really interesting moment because.
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there's a moment where you feel completely helpless.
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Like you don't know the question to ask, you don't know the person that you should be asking the question of.
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You just don't know next step.
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And it becomes paralyzing because you're just like, I don't know what to do, and I think I'm a doer.
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And so for me that was a real problem.
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We had asked the expert, we had the testing done, we had done all of these things.
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I was like, my daughter doesn't feel good.
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And they basically were like, but she's fine.
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And I'm like, but she doesn't feel good.
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And so they did the testing and they're like, oh, she's so fine.
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And I'm like, nothing has changed.
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She still doesn't feel good, and you're telling me she's fine.
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And they're like there's some inflammation and redness in her small intestine, but again, she's fine.
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And it was just kinda no.
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I knew in my gut, especially as a mom, I just knew that wasn't true.
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But I had nowhere else to go.
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And anyway, we did end up talking to a nutritionist who at that time I didn't even know what a nutritionist was, but she did give us some marching orders some things to try.
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It was nothing major, but it was basically stop eating gluten, I think was what she recommended after 20 minutes of talking to her.
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and this was, 15 years ago.
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So it was when gluten was still this like fatty thing and whatever.
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Anyway, we did do that and she miraculously had all kinds of positive changes in just 10 days.
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Wow.
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To the point where I was like.
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Food is magic.
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I had no idea.
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And then I just read and read and finally ran out of things to read.
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And I said to my husband, I need a syllabus because I'm outta things to read and learn.
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And so that's what ended up putting me back into school.
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And so while my daughter did get better, and I also have helped other people with gut issues and all those things, as time has transitioned and moved on.
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It really became clear to me how magical food is, and my problem was that I had.
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Landed in a body I didn't recognize, I didn't feel comfortable in.
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I was overweight, I was super cranky, tons of mood swings, tired.
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My, I walk like a duck when I get outta bed in the morning 'cause my feet hurt.
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That kind of stuff that pit me at 37.
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So prior to me going to nutrition back to school to get my master's degree and while learning what I was learning it, I.
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I wasn't thinking about myself.
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I actually didn't think there was anything I could do, right? I was going into perimenopause.
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It was that time everybody told me it was gonna be horrible and it was never gonna get better.
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But then I started realizing the possibility and started connecting dots and started thinking, hold on.
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If food was magical for my daughter, why wouldn't it be magical for me? And then that's when I started, I think the way I phrase it is I discovered that I was having a communication problem with my body, and food is information.
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And so we use food to communicate to our body what we actually need and want.
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And I thought.
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What I was doing was telling my body I wanna lose weight.
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I wanna have good energy.
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I wanna be a happy person.
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I want to sleep really well.
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once I understood food as information, I could look at it and go, oh.
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So while I thought that's what I was telling my body, in reality, I was telling my body, we need to conserve all energy.
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We need to sit very quietly on the couch, no movement.
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we need to eat constantly.
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We're going to be reminded every hour and a half to two hours that we must eat.
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the food I was eating was telling my body the exact opposite of what I wanted.
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So that's now how I approach work with my clients who are generally women 35 and older, but maybe 40 and older women moving into that midlife phase.
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I have clients in their late seventies who know something's not right.
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They can't figure out what exactly it is, but they know they want more, they want better, and they have not given up on the possibility that they can have what they want.
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So they are looking for an active solution.
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Those are my clients, the ones that wanna regain that balance.
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Two thoughts came to me while you were talking more towards what you were saying just recently is that I think a lot of us have this.
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These habits that we've had since we in our twenties and those kind of things may not have been an issue for us.
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'cause obviously our bodies are younger.
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You may have survived on less sleep because again, you're younger.
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But a lot of the caffeine, alcohol not getting enough sleep, whereas it may have been fine before.
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That does catch up to you.
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The problem is that.
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As we get older, our bodies don't metabolize those things and don't process things, and don't doesn't necessarily function as well without the sleep.
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So suddenly you're thinking, oh my God, something is really different.
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Yes.
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Things are different because we're older and our hormones are acting differently, but it's also the habits that we've developed for many decades.
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And that's something that's very difficult for me to not only break for myself, but also break within patience.
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And try to get them to adapt to that healthier lifestyle.
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And then going back when you were talking about your daughter, what I was also thinking, in this country and the us, there's so many genetically modified foods.
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And yes, gluten has become an issue, but from what I understand, it's a lot of it Our body doesn't necessarily recognize the wheat that we're eating.
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It's not the wheat from the 18 hundreds or even from the early 19 hundreds.
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It's a very modified type of wheat, and so our body might not even recognize that, and that's why things like celiac disease are on the rise.
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So what are your thoughts about what I just said How do you encourage them to adapt those healthy lifestyles? Everything you said ran so true.
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And one of the things that was, that hit me hard when I was 37 was up until that point, my body was very obedient.
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It did all the things I wanted it to do without me having to micromanage it at all.
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And then I get to 37.
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I have no.
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Skills.
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I have no idea how I'm supposed to manage it.
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I haven't had to manage it.
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So that was another thing, right? I was at this place, I'm like looking at my mother, who's a professional dieting person, and I'm like, I could never do that.
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I don't like to deny myself restriction.
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Sounds terrible.
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If you tell me I can't have it, of course I'm gonna want it more.
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So that was a hurdle that I was coming over, and I think it speaks to that idea that you just mentioned about these habits that we've developed through life.
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And this is just how we live.
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And then we hit our forties and yes, we are, hitting perimenopause and then we're going into menopause.
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And yes, we have changes in our sex hormones, of course.
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But with those changes in the age, there's a lot of research showing that women do not metabolize food the way that we used to metabolize food, particularly sugary foods.
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We just don't.
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We are more susceptible to metabolic syndrome, to high blood sugar, high insulin resistance.
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There are so many studies showing this.
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So while we wanna thank.
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I can eat whatever I want.
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I always did, and it was fine.
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So now I just have to figure out how to do that.
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I'm gonna say part of that's true, but part of that's not true.
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So what I try to teach clients is you're gonna come to me and we are going to create food freedom.
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Yes, I want my clients to graduate into food freedom.
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I want you to be able to eat whatever you want whenever you want, but I want you to be able to do it in a way that's gonna work for your body.
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And so this is where that idea of a very unique.
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Individual diet comes from because the food I like to eat and the food you like to eat are going to be very different.
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So figuring out how to manage our food so that it blends well with our lifestyle will make sure that, whatever our healthy diet looks will be unique to us.
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Now, having said that, I always say to get here to food freedom, we need to start here.
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So you have to bring the focus in close and recreate or reclaim that body balance.
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And then once we have the balance again, that's when we can start to expand because now we're connected to our body.
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Communication is happening back and forth properly, so our body is going to, instead of counting numbers and tracking this and doing that, which I'm a huge fan of, I love data.
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What you are going to do is use your body as your control panel.
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So your body is gonna start telling you, we want more of this, we don't want more of that.
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here's the part that's so interesting and I think gets overlooked, is but not often are we respectfully then addressing those.
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So when somebody has acid reflux and they have heartburn and they have gas and bloating and they feel exhausted after they eat a meal or they're not sleeping well, their body's giving them so many red flags, This is not good for us, and we're just like, eh, it's fine.
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We just, we refuse to listen respectfully.
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So what I ask my clients to do is be willing to listen, be willing to make some adjustments.
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food freedom, the way I describe it is.
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I want you to start thinking about food as your most of the time.
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Food.
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You're some of the time food, and then you're rarely foods.
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Okay? All foods are in those buckets.
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The question is most of the time foods will probably be pretty similar for most people.
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These are gonna be your protein sources and your non-starchy vegetables, the fibers foods, the volumous foods, that those foods, some healthy fats, those foods there.
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Now your sometimes foods are going to be the things that when eaten.
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Are pretty neutral for your body.
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They're not gonna make you great and they're not gonna make you horrible.
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However, dose in frequency is a factor.
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So the more often you eat those foods and the amount that you eat when you eat them could push the balance toward worse.
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I look at depending on if somebody is in a weight loss phase, I would put cheese, I'd put nuts in the sometimes category.
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I put grains in the sometimes category.
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Even fruit in the sometimes category.
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And then again, it's gonna be bio individual.
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So when you have successfully.
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Moved to that body balance that feels good to you.
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So you've lost the weight, the inches, the fat, your energy's way up.
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You're sleeping amazing.
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Your appetite's under control.
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You're not craving sugar.
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You know all the good things are happening.
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That's when now you can decide, am I at a place where I wanna maintain? Is this where I wanna live? Is this where I feel good? And that's when you can start shifting around your sometimes and mostly in rarely foods Maybe some of those, sometimes foods can scoot over into your mostly food category, you'll see, because that's how you create that maintenance.
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So maintenance is a learned skill.
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You have to understand how to create that balance between high energy foods and super nutrient dense foods.
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So maintenance is in the middle.
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It's a balance between the two.
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And I can see how that, obviously that can be a more of an individual tailored approach and what's working for one person who may not need to lose weight versus another person, that, that's going to look different.
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It's very different than.
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When I've consulted with nutritionists before, I've often found, and no insult to your profession this is just being objective as a patient reporting my experience.
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It was very scripted okay, you can have this, but don't eat this.
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And I came back okay, this is not, I get all those things and that's how my patients feel as well.
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Whereas this sounds like it's much more of a tailored approach and people can go in between and figure out what is working for them.
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How did you come to establish this as part of your practice? I've been doing it for a long time, and I, like I said before, I am not somebody who.
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So for me it's no, I have to make sure that my brain is oh, everything is fine.
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So we also work on this idea of food guilt.
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There is no guilt.
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All we're doing is collecting data and information.
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So one of my clients come to me and say, oh, I had a terrible day on whatever day I eat, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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I'm like.
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Ooh, tell me more.
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What did you learn? How did your body feel? What did you think about that? What happened next? Because that all they did was collect this new data about this situation they were in and the food they ate and how their body responded.
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And they're like, yeah, no, I probably don't wanna eat that again for a while.
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I don't, it didn't make me feel so good.
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I'm like, so good.
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This is brilliant.
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So it's, there's no guilt at all.
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Just let the guilt go and I want you to be able to yeah.
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So for my clients, for example.
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Hi a client, and I guess the reason I said that is 'cause we're collecting data, we're evaluating what happened, and then we're going to course correct as needed.
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And with my clients it's always, we're course correcting for seven days.
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We're not looking at three months, we're not looking at seven days.
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We're just gonna come up with this strategy for the next seven days.
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Here are some things you can try this week, then come back, tell me what happened.
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Let's see what went well.
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What didn't go so well? And then let's evaluate and strategize on the things that didn't go well to see what we can do next for the next seven days.
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But we are always gonna start with, tell me what went well.
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Because something always went well.
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And of course our brain wants to jump right to what didn't go well, right? You have to start training our brain to look for those positive things because you are making progress and you are succeeding, and it's really hard.
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So I always tell my clients, one of the reasons I like to meet weekly is because often your brain can't go unattended for more than seven days You need that reminder.
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Oh, I'm amazing.
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Yes.
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I totally am doing this.
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Oh, I see where I'm making progress.
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Oh, I remember my goal.
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Exactly.
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So that's what a coach does, is they hold that space for you and that vision until you feel.
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Confident in holding it yourself? Once their brain is with it, then we can start spreading the calls out a little bit more.
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But, so one of my clients, she was, she goes to this fall festival, they had these apple cider donuts and she just loves those donuts.
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And she lost 30 pounds.
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she got on the call, she's I went to the festival.
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I had the donuts.
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She didn't bring a box of donuts home, which is what she always used to do.
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So she enjoyed herself in the moment, but then she didn't have to carry it home with her.
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And that was, for me, it was a great example of.
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Yes.
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Yeah, if you need to have a donut here or there, it's, again, it's not an all the time food.
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It's not your mostly food.
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It's the donut might even be in the rarely food category, but it's okay.
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There's no guilt there, and she figured out how to make that work for her.
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And so everybody's gonna be a little bit different.
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Depending on, I think often people get nervous about the idea of making dietary changes because they're afraid they're not gonna feel good.
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They're gonna be hungry.
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It's gonna be hard.
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So if we can take those things out of the equation.
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What's stopping you from wanting to make changes? If we can make sure that you're feeling full and satisfied that your sugar cravings are going away, that you're not thinking about snacking in between meals and that your energy's way up, if those are the things that we're trying to insist happen, where are you pushing I think it all comes back to habits again.
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Okay.
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What we've been familiar with and, some of those foods or perhaps alcohol serve as a comfort measure.
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So we use food to avoid sense sensations or thoughts of discomfort.
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So the other piece of my puzzle is I'm also a life coach, and so I combine the mat.
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I'm a board certified nutritionist, but I'm also a certified life coach.
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So I combine those two modalities.
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Because you're right, having all the information and all the tangibles, right? I know what to buy at the grocery store.
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I have a recipe I'm supposed to cook.
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I know I'm not supposed to snack.
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You have all the tangibles, you can find them on the internet, but connecting the tangibles to the emotional, There's usually a disconnect there.
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So while we know what we're supposed to do, implementation becomes the problem.
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And a lot of it is 'cause we'll fall back on old habits.
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So we have to identify the habits, we have to identify the good habits.
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'cause you may have some bad habits, but you also have good habits.
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So we're gonna push the good habits forward and then we're gonna start detangling the bad habits.
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What are the thoughts? What are the feelings that are being created by the thoughts, and then what's the behavior that's happening because of that? So we start to have to detangle and back ourselves out of it.
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The other big thing is often I'll see, like for example, the nutritionist, my daughter met with 17, 15 years ago.
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She said, stop eating gluten.
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She didn't tell us what to eat in place of gluten.
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She just removed something.
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And so in reality, that happens all the time.
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And what's happened is there's a void that's now created.
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If you don't fill the void, of course you're gonna fall back into old habits.
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And so that's part of my process is I have this entire 12 years worth of material, but.
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Also this huge recipe database, because I'm gonna ask my clients, especially in phase one, to, bring it down a little bit.
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So we're going to be a little more tailored to metabolic balance.
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We're calming your blood sugar, we're bringing your insulin down, we're bringing down your inflammation markers.
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So those things are happening, and I am gonna ask you to eat in a specific way.
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As we bring in the balance.
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But in doing so, I'm also gonna give you all of these recipes and you're gonna feel so good because I have gotten a lot of feedback.
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They're delicious and they realize they have to cook way more than they thought they would because their whole family is eating their food.
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one of the things I just introduced.
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To my clients is I created a private ai that has all of my materials, but my entire recipe database.
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And so this ai, you can go in and tell it.
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It knows the nutritional parameters of every phase of my program.
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You go in and tell it and say, I'm in phase one.
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I'm at Panera Bread with my girlfriends for lunch.
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What can I eat? And you can drop the menu in there and it'll spit out exactly what you should order.
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Here are some ideas here or here are options.
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And it'll tell you why and it'll tell you how to adapt or adjust something on the menu so that it works for you.
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But it will also, you can say, I'm in phase one.
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I have 15 minutes, I need to make dinner.
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can you gimme three recipes that I could whip up? I have shrimp, I have chicken, whatever.
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You can tell it what you have in your fridge.
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Boom.
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And it'll give you the recipes right out of our database that match the nutritional parameters of your phase.
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And off you go.
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So most people don't wanna track their food.
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They don't wanna count calories.
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Then don't, if you're going to eat, if you eat within the parameters of the program and you use the recipes that I have given you, or you find a recipe that you love, you drop it in the AI and say, will this work for phase one? And if it will, the AI will tell you yes.
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And if it won't, it'll say it won't, but let's make these adjustments.
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So that is fascinating.
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I've just started beta testing it last week with my group clients and I am just like, it's just killing me.
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It's so funny.
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It does not search the internet.
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Only use my material.
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it also gives coaching tips.
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You can say, oh my God, I have already finished dinner.
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It's two hours later, I'm watching TV and I just want a snack, and what should I do? And it'll give you motivation.
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It'll give you coaching tips.
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It'll give you ideas.
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It's hilarious.
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I think it's hilarious to me because it's me, it's my word, and I'll read it and I'll be like, cracking up.
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It's so funny, but it's such a nice, I call it your pocket coach, right? So you can, okay.
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In between our live coaching calls, and also you can message me between calls, but this is just that in the moment I'm at the grocery store, I wanted to, and you can take a picture of the nutrition label, drop it in there and be like, is this, should I buy this? And it'll be like, yes or no, and here's why.
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I think that's great, honestly.
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so it's in beta right now, but is it an app that you are developing or? it's, I call it beta only because I'm just, I guess it will always be beta 'cause I'm always tweaking it.
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Like it's, I asked the question today and it gave me something and I was like, so when you answer a question like this, I really want you to, you phrase it this way, so I'm always tweaking it.
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But yeah and curious, just, we'll see how it goes.
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It's very interesting and it's pretty fun and I'm always just trying to figure out how to make food easy.
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Yeah.
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Clients.
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Yeah.
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I just want them to feel, I want food to feel easy.
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I want those habits that we were talking about.
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When they feel like they need a snack, I want them to just be like, oh, I have leftover hard boiled eggs.
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Or I have, I, we have something called trit tip.
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Depending on where you are in the country, it's a roast.
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It's basically roast beef or, okay.
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So we always have that cut up in the fridge, so to grab some tri-tip as a snack, to do something like that.
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We will stress eat.
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We all do it.
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Yes I do it.
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So my dogs went after the cats.
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Everyone's fine.
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But it just completely freaks me out.
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And I was like, oh my gosh.
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And I knew I was gonna stress eat and I immediately opened the refrigerator.
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So step one, I didn't go to the pantry.
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I opened the refrigerator and I knew exactly what I was looking for.
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We had made some barbecue baby back ribs.
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With my sauce, so was sugar free sauce.
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And I'm like, where are those ribs? I'm gonna eat them right now.
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But I, the other thing that happens is you create this awareness around what you're thinking and how you're behaving.
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And I tell my clients all the time, I'm like, listen, once that door of awareness opens, it never closes.
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So while I realized I was going to be stress eating, I also was aware that I was trying to make a dec a, a pretty good choice.
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I was like, this is not gonna bother my body.
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If I eat these leftover ribs, it's gonna be fine.
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I find that women, especially, we're always faulting ourselves for not being perfect.
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So I always tell my patients we're, you're going to be, if you wanna use this word messing up here and there, but that doesn't mean you just, abandon the whole concept altogether.
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with everyone is nothing has gone wrong.
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Nothing has gone wrong.
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It's all, it's totally normal.
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It's just life.
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gone wrong.
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The other part about women and their midwives, and I'm right, right there along with you, is that we often have a lot of, not just hormonal imbalances when it comes to estrogen and progesterone, but a lot of us are working moms.
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We have the stress Of work, of home balance, of maybe even taking care of aging parents and it all adds up to a lot.
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So there are a lot of gut imbalances that can happen.
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Can you talk to us about what those kind of imbalances do and how it makes women feel and how it adds to things like belly fat and things like that? So what do you mean by, so of course we're talking about stress.
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Yes.
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So cortisol.
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Yes.
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and when you say gut imbalances, I guess I'm not totally understanding.
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Yeah.
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So a lot of it, you were mentioning, the insulin resistance yeah.
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focus on is metabolic imbalance.
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Yeah.
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Honestly, when you can rebalance your metabolic hormones.
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Everything gets easier, perimenopause gets easier, menopause gets easier.
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Your anxiety quiets down.
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That's one of the biggest things I hear clients say all the time is I'm just so much calmer and like I just don't, I'll ask, I always ask, how's your stress? And they're like, yeah, it's good.
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And the things like that thing that used to like just push me over the edge, I kind, they're like, yeah, I saw, yeah, it just, now I see it and I'm like, yeah, that thing.
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But it doesn't freak them out.
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This is why the nutrition part's so important because the way you rebalance your metabolic hormones is through food.
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It's food and lifestyle.
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So it's going to be what you choose to eat.
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Again, it's that communication with your body.
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The typical American diet is causing you to have very high fluctuating blood sugar, which is then causing you to have very high insulin, which is then driving you toward insulin resistance.
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Pre-diabetes and then type two diabetes.
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This is not, once you're on that track, you can absolutely hop off.
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People, I think, get this impression that once they're on track, that's it.
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That's where they're going.
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That they're, they have to, and one of the things that I've done with many clients is.
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Pulled them out of pre-diabetes and it's happened, I thought, I always think of it as taking about 12 weeks, but I had this couple in their late seventies of all people and they actually got their blood work done early.
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So they had their blood work done at eight weeks and it came back completely normal that was a nice thing to see.
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But that's all they did was start to.
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Evaluate their diet, evaluate their eating habits, make some of the changes that I suggested.
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And that's when they saw these huge changes and they saw their markers reverse the.
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Male.
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Part of that partnership was, he was more in that type two diabetes zone, based on his hba one C.
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It was very high.
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Okay.
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Higher than typically what I work with.
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So I was thrilled to see that he was able to reverse that.
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But it does come down again to those, most of the time, Foods.
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So we're really gonna focus on those most of the time foods which.
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Are the same foods that cause you to feel full and satisfied, and then also because of that eat less without the restriction.
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So remember I said I'm not good at restriction.
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The idea is let's eat the foods that make me feel like I'm not hungry so that I don't need to eat as much.
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And now.
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Don't get me wrong.
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When I have a plate of food in front of me, it's massive.
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I have a huge meal, but I only do that twice a day.
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00:30:12,567.88 --> 00:30:19,617.88
And then I have a mini meal somewhere in the middle, which is about 30 grams of protein in my mini meal.
381
00:30:19,927.88 --> 00:30:23,527.88
I used to eat every hour and a half to two hours like clockwork.
382
00:30:23,527.88 --> 00:30:27,427.88
And my mood would, people would know when it was time for me to eat.
383
00:30:27,427.88 --> 00:30:29,197.88
I was not a nice person to be around.
384
00:30:30,557.88 --> 00:30:34,997.88
So you were a prime example of what you were saying from hangry to healthy.
385
00:30:35,147.88 --> 00:30:37,997.88
Oh, I was so hangry.
386
00:30:38,97.88 --> 00:30:40,587.88
I am, I've been married for 34 years.
387
00:30:40,617.88 --> 00:30:41,997.88
My husband is a saint.
388
00:30:42,57.88 --> 00:30:48,897.88
I honestly don't know how he put up with me during that phase when I just, it was ugly, not good.
389
00:30:48,897.88 --> 00:30:50,187.88
I was not a nice person.
390
00:30:51,267.88 --> 00:30:53,127.88
So tell us about hangry to healthy.
391
00:30:53,367.88 --> 00:30:56,577.88
How did you come about trademarking that and, yeah.
392
00:30:57,22.88 --> 00:30:58,402.88
is my signature program.
393
00:30:58,432.88 --> 00:30:58,762.88
Okay.
394
00:30:58,972.88 --> 00:31:08,542.88
And it is I came up with it many years ago because I really felt like that was the progression, that it was just people were hangry and they couldn't understand.
395
00:31:08,702.88 --> 00:31:09,992.88
I also work with.
396
00:31:10,702.88 --> 00:31:12,772.88
Local doctors that refer patients to me.
397
00:31:13,12.88 --> 00:31:23,642.88
And I would sit down with a new patient and I'd ask them how do you eat? Are, do you feel hangry? Do you get anxious and moody and frustrated and have brain frog and, crave sugar.
398
00:31:23,852.88 --> 00:31:27,332.88
And they're like, no, but I saw their diet journal.
399
00:31:27,362.88 --> 00:31:29,552.88
And so based on their diet journal, I'm like, wow.
400
00:31:30,212.88 --> 00:31:31,292.88
That's so interesting.
401
00:31:31,292.88 --> 00:31:37,772.88
I wonder how come they're not hangry? Because based on what they're eating, I really would've thought that they would be on this blood sugar rollercoaster.
402
00:31:37,872.88 --> 00:31:40,92.88
And so I said, wow, okay.
403
00:31:40,182.88 --> 00:31:45,342.88
And I said, and then I said something about you're snacking, so you're eating meals and you're snacking.
404
00:31:45,342.88 --> 00:31:52,162.88
And I said why are you snacking? And they're like because if I don't snack, then I just, I get overly hungry and I get really angry and I get mean.
405
00:31:52,162.88 --> 00:31:55,432.88
And all the things I had just asked them about that, they said, no, that doesn't bother me.
406
00:31:56,592.88 --> 00:31:59,917.88
And I said, oh, it's because you eat every two hours.
407
00:31:59,977.88 --> 00:32:02,267.88
Yeah yes, I have to eat every two hours.
408
00:32:02,267.88 --> 00:32:03,527.88
And I'm like, okay.
409
00:32:03,677.88 --> 00:32:10,277.88
I clearly asked the wrong question, but that's when I was like, okay, so this is a, this hangry thing is happening.
410
00:32:10,277.88 --> 00:32:12,587.88
But people don't recognize that they're hangry.
411
00:32:12,587.88 --> 00:32:13,507.88
Like they don't.
412
00:32:13,722.88 --> 00:32:16,452.88
They're not putting two and two together, so hangry to healthy.
413
00:32:16,452.88 --> 00:32:18,882.88
That was just the silly phrase that I came up with.
414
00:32:18,882.88 --> 00:32:34,32.88
So it's taking those people from this blood sugar rollercoaster that's causing them to feel very uncomfortable, have terrible energy, ups and downs, mood swings, brain fog, all of it, extra weight, and get them off the rollercoaster.
415
00:32:34,32.88 --> 00:32:37,602.88
So get them to a place where everything's feeling very.
416
00:32:38,272.88 --> 00:32:39,442.88
Manageable.
417
00:32:39,742.88 --> 00:32:45,652.88
I like to, when you're on the rollercoaster, you go from you, you ate, so you're good.
418
00:32:45,742.88 --> 00:32:46,882.88
I'm not hungry at all.
419
00:32:46,942.88 --> 00:32:51,442.88
And then boom, you're starving and you have to eat right now or Yeah, go badly.
420
00:32:51,442.88 --> 00:32:51,502.88
Yeah.
421
00:32:51,712.88 --> 00:32:53,212.88
So you go from red light.
422
00:32:53,242.88 --> 00:32:54,982.88
I don't need it to green light.
423
00:32:55,12.88 --> 00:32:56,452.88
It has to happen immediately.
424
00:32:56,572.88 --> 00:32:59,92.88
And when you are balanced.
425
00:32:59,857.88 --> 00:33:01,837.88
There's no more green lights.
426
00:33:01,837.88 --> 00:33:02,947.88
You get yellow lights.
427
00:33:03,247.88 --> 00:33:16,937.88
So instead of having these, I have to eat right now, you'll be busy doing something and then maybe you'll have a thought, some thought about food, and you'll look at your watch and you'll be like, oh my gosh, it's been, I totally missed lunch.
428
00:33:16,937.88 --> 00:33:18,587.88
It's been four and a half hours.
429
00:33:19,472.88 --> 00:33:22,202.88
Again, it's not an emergency, it's a yellow light.
430
00:33:22,202.88 --> 00:33:27,722.88
Your body's just Hey, we should think about maybe eating something in the next 30 to 45 minutes.
431
00:33:27,882.88 --> 00:33:51,452.88
not only is it not an emergency, you actually now have time to go, what am I going to eat? What would be good right now? So you're not just running to grab a bag of potato chips You actually can think about what are you gonna have maybe you're at work and you're gonna go out to get lunch, but what are you gonna get? If you have time to think, oh, you know what my body really wants or what's gonna be perfect for me? Or if you use my ai, you drop your favorite restaurant in there and go, I love it.
432
00:33:52,107.88 --> 00:33:54,357.88
that's the healthy end of the hangry to healthy.
433
00:33:55,242.88 --> 00:34:10,187.88
Do a lot of your clients come in on GLP ones or are they asking you, what are your thoughts about GLP ones? For our listening audience, I'm referring to Ozempic, wegovy, Manjaro and ze bound.
434
00:34:10,737.88 --> 00:34:17,387.88
So what are your thoughts about the GLP ones? A lot of people are like, it, you were talking about food noise.
435
00:34:17,937.88 --> 00:34:21,537.88
That's the claim to fame that it stops their food noise.
436
00:34:21,542.88 --> 00:34:23,602.88
And they're able to make better choices.
437
00:34:23,602.88 --> 00:34:32,722.88
What are your thoughts about all of that? Nine years ago, people were coming to me because their doctor said they were pre-diabetic and they needed to go on medication.
438
00:34:32,992.88 --> 00:34:35,752.88
So not a weight loss drug at that time, it was an oral medication.
439
00:34:36,82.88 --> 00:34:38,422.88
They didn't wanna be on medication for the rest of their life.
440
00:34:38,422.88 --> 00:34:41,32.88
So they would say to their doctor, I'm gonna try and work this out.
441
00:34:41,332.88 --> 00:34:45,622.88
So they would come see me and then three months later they'd go back and do their labs and everything would be fine.
442
00:34:45,622.88 --> 00:34:50,722.88
And their doctor would say we don't actually need to have a conversation 'cause there's nothing to talk about 'cause you're no longer pre-diabetic.
443
00:34:51,112.88 --> 00:34:54,292.88
Now I'm getting people calling me because they're like.
444
00:34:54,802.88 --> 00:34:57,232.88
I don't wanna go on a GLP one.
445
00:34:57,232.88 --> 00:35:05,632.88
I don't wanna go on weight loss medication, but that's what I keep asking my doctor, what can I do? And all they keep saying is here, why don't we get write you a prescription? You can start whatever.
446
00:35:05,632.88 --> 00:35:07,102.88
And they're like, but I don't wanna do that.
447
00:35:07,312.88 --> 00:35:08,212.88
So it's interesting.
448
00:35:08,212.88 --> 00:35:12,322.88
It's the same thing, but it's shifted on, why I am, people are coming.
449
00:35:12,532.88 --> 00:35:16,192.88
They're like, can I do this without the weight loss drug? And I'm like, absolutely you can.
450
00:35:16,662.88 --> 00:35:21,672.88
a lot of my women are actually in menopause and they lose the weight.
451
00:35:21,702.88 --> 00:35:26,232.88
So the thought that I'm in perimenopause or I'm in menopause, I don't have any control.
452
00:35:26,232.88 --> 00:35:27,372.88
That's totally not true.
453
00:35:27,422.88 --> 00:35:28,892.88
But it's a different topic.
454
00:35:28,952.88 --> 00:35:30,842.88
So as far as the GLP ones go.
455
00:35:32,12.88 --> 00:35:42,962.88
I have met people who I thought a GLP one would be such a great option for you, depending on who they are, what their health concerns are, where they are in their journey.
456
00:35:43,172.88 --> 00:35:45,662.88
Yeah, I think it can be an amazing tool.
457
00:35:46,202.88 --> 00:35:57,632.88
I think there are a lot of people jumping in that don't need to jump in and not realizing, so one of the things you hear about the GLP ones is that you're gonna lose muscle mass.
458
00:35:58,547.88 --> 00:36:03,197.88
Now they counter that with saying no, you're not gonna lose muscle mass because you're gonna work out.
459
00:36:03,377.88 --> 00:36:05,987.88
You're gonna lift weights, you're gonna manage it, you're gonna be fine.
460
00:36:06,287.88 --> 00:36:07,247.88
And this is true.
461
00:36:07,607.88 --> 00:36:11,897.88
However, everybody that I know that's on a GLP one is eating.
462
00:36:12,422.88 --> 00:36:14,102.88
Less than a thousand calories a day.
463
00:36:14,152.88 --> 00:36:16,462.88
They do not feel good.
464
00:36:16,732.88 --> 00:36:19,702.88
They food is a little bit nauseating.
465
00:36:19,882.88 --> 00:36:24,382.88
They can take a couple of bites and then they're like, Ooh, if I eat more, I just feel sick.
466
00:36:24,562.88 --> 00:36:26,812.88
Like they literally have a little bit of that.
467
00:36:26,812.88 --> 00:36:32,362.88
I don't, it makes me feel sick, which is often why you don't think about food and why you're not hungry.
468
00:36:32,602.88 --> 00:36:46,117.88
'cause who wants to eat when they're nauseous now? I don't know anybody who's getting 800 calories a day and has the energy to now be this incredibly active weightlifter at the gym.
469
00:36:46,837.88 --> 00:36:54,727.88
800 calories a day is enough to get me to maybe sit on a couch, get up and go to the bathroom, maybe, hopefully get some water.
470
00:36:55,57.88 --> 00:37:03,127.88
But I feel like it's very unrealistic to see somebody eating 800 calories a day and then having this very.
471
00:37:04,207.88 --> 00:37:06,997.88
Effective workout routine.
472
00:37:07,537.88 --> 00:37:10,747.88
So yeah, if you can do it, I think that's great.
473
00:37:10,747.88 --> 00:37:12,157.88
But I haven't seen that.
474
00:37:12,337.88 --> 00:37:22,147.88
I've seen a lot of hair loss, I've seen a lot of gauntness, I've seen a lot of muscle loss and muscles are organ of longevity and I also, one of the.
475
00:37:22,927.88 --> 00:37:27,847.88
Lessons in my program is this dieting versus diet.
476
00:37:27,897.88 --> 00:37:34,137.88
Yeah, you know what? When you lose weight and you say, oh my God, I gained it all back and it, and now it's so much harder for me to lose it.
477
00:37:34,137.88 --> 00:37:35,757.88
And it was so easy to gain it back.
478
00:37:35,787.88 --> 00:37:41,967.88
You're not wrong because if you're losing weight and then a way that's not preserving muscle, you're losing muscle.
479
00:37:42,882.88 --> 00:37:46,932.88
When you gain weight, you're just gonna gain body fat that replaces the muscle.
480
00:37:47,82.88 --> 00:37:51,762.88
So not only are you gonna gain what you lost, you're gonna gain more, and now it's gonna be even harder to lose it.
481
00:37:52,92.88 --> 00:38:00,402.88
So my process is all about managing and maintaining muscle mass, regardless of whether you're at the gym.
482
00:38:00,402.88 --> 00:38:03,822.88
I don't, exercise is not at the beginning of my program at all.
483
00:38:03,822.88 --> 00:38:04,32.88
Okay.
484
00:38:04,297.88 --> 00:38:08,487.88
We're balancing out, I want you to get to a point where your body's we need to move.
485
00:38:08,647.88 --> 00:38:12,667.88
I want your energy to force you to feel like I need to do stuff.
486
00:38:12,937.88 --> 00:38:15,427.88
That's when I'm like, oh, now let's talk about exercise.
487
00:38:16,297.88 --> 00:38:18,797.88
But yeah, so that's where I am on the GLP ones.
488
00:38:18,797.88 --> 00:38:19,757.88
I think they can be.
489
00:38:20,867.88 --> 00:38:23,987.88
Used effectively for the right person.
490
00:38:23,987.88 --> 00:38:28,457.88
But I think there's just a lot of people who are like, I need to lose 12 pounds, or I need to lose 30 pounds.
491
00:38:28,457.88 --> 00:38:32,57.88
And their doctor's just very willing to go, yeah, you should do this.
492
00:38:32,267.88 --> 00:38:33,107.88
And it's kinda Ooh.
493
00:38:33,797.88 --> 00:38:36,467.88
Yeah, you can, but it's up to you.
494
00:38:36,537.88 --> 00:38:43,897.88
That's, I think one as a, as an internist and someone who sees a lot of women in her practice, that is one of the things.
495
00:38:43,897.88 --> 00:38:49,357.88
I, of course, I do prescribe GLP ones, but I often get worried about.
496
00:38:50,362.88 --> 00:38:53,242.88
How pa 'cause I can't be with them all the time, obviously.
497
00:38:53,572.88 --> 00:39:03,907.88
So I often worry that they're not getting the right nutrition and not getting enough calories and sometimes they come back and I can tell you're, you look tired.
498
00:39:03,977.88 --> 00:39:08,117.88
How much are you eating? And then they'll tell me, and I'm like, that's even less than 800 calories.
499
00:39:09,222.88 --> 00:39:11,237.88
This is not what we discussed.
500
00:39:11,777.88 --> 00:39:11,987.88
Yeah.
501
00:39:12,37.88 --> 00:39:13,987.88
it becomes a bit worrisome at times.
502
00:39:14,692.88 --> 00:39:15,382.88
Yeah.
503
00:39:15,592.88 --> 00:39:24,267.88
Yeah, it's, and I have worked with some I, honestly, I just have one, one client who's on a GLP one, She goes, I'm not there yet.
504
00:39:24,267.88 --> 00:39:25,737.88
I wanna lose a few more pounds.
505
00:39:26,292.88 --> 00:39:29,892.88
I feel like that seems to be, it's always, I wanna lose a little bit more when they get to them.
506
00:39:29,892.88 --> 00:39:29,952.88
Yeah.
507
00:39:30,232.88 --> 00:39:30,922.88
Maybe a little more.
508
00:39:31,342.88 --> 00:39:38,972.88
And she said, but I wanna know, I wanna be able to eat the right way so that when I come off the drug, I don't gain the weight back.
509
00:39:39,242.88 --> 00:39:41,282.88
So we met a few times and we.
510
00:39:41,482.88 --> 00:39:46,462.88
I gave her, we, I coached her, we explained the food and all the things and she got it.
511
00:39:46,912.88 --> 00:39:50,572.88
And but there wasn't a lot we could do because she couldn't eat.
512
00:39:50,992.88 --> 00:39:54,22.88
She's just, they'd go out to dinner and she'd get like a steak.
513
00:39:54,352.88 --> 00:39:55,702.88
And I'm like, that's fantastic.
514
00:39:55,702.88 --> 00:39:57,592.88
And she's I only had two small bites.
515
00:39:57,662.88 --> 00:39:58,832.88
And I'm like, oh wow.
516
00:39:59,492.88 --> 00:40:13,702.88
I don't know what more I can do, because you're not at a place where we can actually gather the data, evaluate what's going on, and then address, how to make changes because there's no data coming in because she just couldn't, she couldn't eat.
517
00:40:14,822.88 --> 00:40:17,322.88
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
518
00:40:17,812.88 --> 00:40:22,452.88
And these are not things that, my practice is very busy, as I'm sure yours is too.
519
00:40:22,452.88 --> 00:40:25,812.88
But the nature of what you do is much more detailed.
520
00:40:25,812.88 --> 00:40:28,2.88
Whereas I'm seeing a gazillion patients.
521
00:40:28,482.88 --> 00:40:32,682.88
Back to back, and it's often very difficult to track these things.
522
00:40:32,952.88 --> 00:40:41,652.88
So what I'm basically suggesting is that you work with me through a Zoom call and actually coach my patients.
523
00:40:42,292.88 --> 00:40:43,336.88
do it with other doctors.
524
00:40:44,236.88 --> 00:41:09,806.88
What are your thoughts about what happens with the gut? During perimenopause and menopause, is it a unique thing that happens to us or is it again, something that's a continuum of what we've been doing all along and now it's not working anymore? there are changes obviously as our estrogen and progesterones and even testosterone levels shift.
525
00:41:09,996.88 --> 00:41:17,976.88
I think women often lean into this idea of perimenopause and menopause as being this thing that's happening to us.
526
00:41:18,86.88 --> 00:41:20,36.88
And we don't have control over it.
527
00:41:20,576.88 --> 00:41:29,601.88
And that's why I have this belly fat, and that's why my body's shifting and that's why I'm carrying all this extra weight when in reality.
528
00:41:30,546.88 --> 00:41:32,106.88
Your sex hormones.
529
00:41:32,436.88 --> 00:41:35,586.88
Don't cause you to gain weight or lose weight.
530
00:41:36,36.88 --> 00:41:44,76.88
What they do is they traffic any excess weight or energy that's coming into your body to specific places.
531
00:41:44,206.88 --> 00:41:54,636.88
when we have those female hormones and we're in a reproductive state, they're gonna traffic our excess weight into our breasts, into our hips, into our thighs, all the places it's supposed to go.
532
00:41:55,126.88 --> 00:42:00,406.88
as we hit perimenopause and menopause and people start complaining about I've never gained weight around my middle before.
533
00:42:01,596.88 --> 00:42:03,846.88
What's happening is we're losing that estrogen.
534
00:42:03,936.88 --> 00:42:07,806.88
We start trafficking that excess weight the way men do.
535
00:42:08,166.88 --> 00:42:12,6.88
So it's going to that abdominal space the way it does in men.
536
00:42:12,6.88 --> 00:42:13,506.88
That's just how they carry their weight.
537
00:42:13,806.88 --> 00:42:19,466.88
So again it's the, those sex hormones are that traffic cop on where that excess weight's going.
538
00:42:19,706.88 --> 00:42:22,436.88
So what I like to do is, let's back away from that.
539
00:42:22,736.88 --> 00:42:26,86.88
What if you didn't have the excess weight? To go anywhere.
540
00:42:26,476.88 --> 00:42:28,846.88
That's where, that's what I'm trying to get to for people.
541
00:42:29,26.88 --> 00:42:36,96.88
I'm like, let's just stop the, at the root cause of the problem with this, the excess that's coming in and needing to be packed off as body fat.
542
00:42:36,841.88 --> 00:42:44,851.88
As we hit 40 women's bodies do shift in terms of metabolically what we do efficiently and effectively.
543
00:42:44,851.88 --> 00:42:52,261.88
And so managing sugars and carbohydrates and that type of food we just aren't as good at as we were when we were younger.
544
00:42:52,511.88 --> 00:42:57,326.88
So yeah, It's less about restriction and more about macronutrient.
545
00:42:57,326.88 --> 00:42:58,766.88
Redistribution.
546
00:42:58,956.88 --> 00:43:05,636.88
So let's talk about how we're gonna redistribute the macronutrients that are coming in a way that's now gonna work for your body.
547
00:43:05,796.88 --> 00:43:32,946.88
Needs of our changing and aging body, and once we understand how to manage those needs, then that carries with us at every age, which is why my program works for somebody who's 35, or I have people in their twenties, and then 35 and 40 and 55 and 60, but even my 78, 70 9-year-old patients, because it's just, it has to work with your body at whatever stage in life you're at.
548
00:43:33,446.88 --> 00:43:46,511.88
Give us one or two examples of a client maybe in their midwives where you helped them transform themselves and I don't mean from a physical appearance, just from how they were feeling Give us a couple of examples.
549
00:43:46,541.88 --> 00:43:57,101.88
I have, oh, I have two of my favorite, so one of my clients who came to me last year was she called, she's just I, just so you know, my history, I'm a breast cancer survivor.
550
00:43:57,101.88 --> 00:44:04,641.88
I've just finished all my treatments and I have gained weight and I really just wanna stop.
551
00:44:04,881.88 --> 00:44:05,931.88
Gaining weight.
552
00:44:06,321.88 --> 00:44:14,761.88
And I said do you wanna lose the weight that you gained? And she's I really can't because I'm on Tamoxifen, which is the drug they put you on, to manage the cancer risk and all that.
553
00:44:15,241.88 --> 00:44:23,221.88
And I said, why? And she said because Tamoxifen makes it really hard for you to lose weight, and it actually makes gaining weight really easy.
554
00:44:23,221.88 --> 00:44:26,971.88
And so I just really wanna stop the weight gain and not get worse.
555
00:44:27,91.88 --> 00:44:30,501.88
And I'm like, okay, what if you lost weight? And she's that would be great.
556
00:44:31,61.88 --> 00:44:33,281.88
Eight months later, she's down 35 pounds.
557
00:44:33,491.88 --> 00:44:37,571.88
And not only that, she was a runner and she couldn't run because she had a knee injury.
558
00:44:37,811.88 --> 00:44:47,451.88
So in the process, as she started feeling better and as her weight started to stabilize she realized she wanted to exercise she decided she's a local person.
559
00:44:47,451.88 --> 00:44:53,631.88
So she ended up coming and meeting my coach, my strength and conditioning coach, and working out in the mornings with me.
560
00:44:53,761.88 --> 00:44:56,251.88
now her identity is completely shifted.
561
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She sees herself as a woman who eats a very high protein nutrient rich diet who lifts weights three times a week and still participates in half marathons, but she walks half marathons at sub 16 minute miles.
562
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But this is my, breast cancer survivor who was pretty sure she was just gonna be puffy and chubby forever because of her condition.
563
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And I'm like, why? Let's not do that.
564
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And then my other one is a woman who C-suite.
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So she was a executive in a company and very busy.
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And her basically, she saw self care as make, she could get home and be in bed by midnight.
567
00:45:35,401.88 --> 00:45:39,511.88
She felt like she'd been trying to lose weight forever and nothing worked.
568
00:45:39,511.88 --> 00:45:48,211.88
And she said by the time she met me, she was at a place where she thought, I just don't think I'm meant to lose the weight, and I don't know why, but she decided to give my program.
569
00:45:48,216.88 --> 00:45:51,336.88
Her last ditch effort and she lost 40 pounds.
570
00:45:51,606.88 --> 00:45:57,486.88
But in the process of her transformation, she all of a sudden realized she liked exercising.
571
00:45:57,726.88 --> 00:46:07,526.88
So now all, as she's transitioned through her weight loss and found new things about life that she's enjoying doing, she actually likes to train and.
572
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Participate in sprint triathlons, and this is the woman who couldn't get to bed before midnight, who's now spends a lot of her time training and participating in sprint triathlons.
573
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So she became, her identity shifted from a busy executive to an executive who is very fit and athletic, so I love the transformation is something I've recently added to the name of my program because I'm seeing my clients.
574
00:46:31,811.88 --> 00:46:38,771.88
Make these major identity shifts, like they're becoming a person who, they see themselves as a different person.
575
00:46:38,951.88 --> 00:46:39,251.88
Yeah.
576
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They don't get, there's no finish line for their weight loss, so they lose the weight, but they be, they're transitioning into this different person and so they're, what they see is not a finish line.
577
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What they see is what's next, what else can I do? So it's just, it's amazing.
578
00:46:54,671.88 --> 00:46:56,681.88
they inspire me every day.
579
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They're amazing.
580
00:46:58,191.88 --> 00:47:04,791.88
I always said that, perimenopause and menopause, it should be an opportunity to reinvent yourself.
581
00:47:05,301.88 --> 00:47:09,81.88
And it sounds like you and I very much align in that way.
582
00:47:09,81.88 --> 00:47:09,171.88
Yes.
583
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but with the ultimate goal of helping women to achieve the healthiest and happiest lives that they can.
584
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Yes.
585
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I want them to see the possibility because you don't know what.
586
00:47:22,371.88 --> 00:47:25,191.88
To aim for when you don't know what's possible.
587
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And I feel like I'm creating this army of women that I want all other women to notice and be like, wait, I want that.
588
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That's my goal is I want women to inspire other women and younger women to go, wait, I wanna be that when I'm that age.
589
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That's my goal is to inspire a whole generation of women.
590
00:47:46,741.88 --> 00:47:49,261.88
This has been a great podcast.
591
00:47:49,261.88 --> 00:47:53,641.88
I can't wait for it to come out both on Apple Podcasts as well as YouTube.
592
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tell our audience how we can find you any social media handles where we can look for you.
593
00:47:59,591.88 --> 00:48:05,801.88
Yes, so you can find, my company name is The Simplicity of Wellness, and that is the name on Instagram.
594
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It's also the name of my website, so the simplicity of wellness.com.
595
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And if you go to my website in the upper right hand corner of my homepage is a button for free consult.
596
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And I love the free consult because I tell people.
597
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This is a win-win.
598
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There's two things that are gonna happen at the end of this conversation.
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First of all, you're gonna walk away.
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I always say it's gonna be the best 45 minutes of your week.
601
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You're gonna walk away with at least one strategy that you can implement immediately to better that food body communication.
602
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But also you're gonna leave the call with clear.
603
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Next steps.
604
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So I want you to feel really good about what you're going to do next to further your progress.
605
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So is that you now got your questions answered and you feel very confident going forward on your own and doing next steps? Or do you feel like, oh, I actually want more coaching? So either way, you're gonna leave the call with clear.
606
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Next steps, you're gonna know what to do next to move forward, be it either on your own or with more coaching, whatever that is.
607
00:49:15,336.88 --> 00:49:17,706.88
Thank you so much for joining me today.
608
00:49:18,66.88 --> 00:49:18,906.88
Oh, it was my pleasure.
609
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Thank you so much.
610
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And don't forget to like, share and review my podcast.
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Remember, it's always ladies first on Soma Says.
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Let's make a difference one conversation at a time.