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January 23, 2025 62 mins
Subscribe to the video podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@SomaMandalsays/videos   In this episode of Soma Says, Dr. Soma speaks with Dr. Shelly Prasad, a multifaceted healer, chiropractor, and womb shaman. Dr. Prasad shares her remarkable journey of discovering profound healing through the sacred use of cannabis, discussing how it compares to other plant medicines like psilocybin and ayahuasca. She explains her transformative self-healing practices, including body-mind synchronization and somatophobia - the fear of the body. The discussion delves into the nuances of ceremonial cannabis use, its ancestral roots, and its potential to unlock higher consciousness and true healing. Dr. Prasad also touches on the importance of integration and the challenges posed by the current legal and societal framework around plant medicines. This episode provides deep insights into the therapeutic potentials of sacred plant medicines and Dr. Prasad's mission to guide individuals to their inner healer.     00:00 Introduction and Disclaimer   00:35 Exploring Cannabis and Consciousness   01:42 Meet Dr. Shelly Prasad   02:29 Personal Journey and Discoveries   05:35 Understanding Somatophobia   07:23 The Role of Plant Medicine   13:07 Guided Sacred Cannabis Journey   28:49 Challenges and Overcoming Somatophobia   33:15 Guided Cannabis Ceremonies: A Slow Approach   33:29 Understanding the Endocannabinoid System   33:47 Recreational vs. Medicinal Cannabis Use   35:10 Sacred Cannabis Ceremonies for Healing   36:58 Personal Healing Journey: Chiropractic and Cannabis   40:28 The Role of Cannabis in Spiritual Practices   41:32 Cannabis vs. Other Plant Medicines   42:35 Integration and Guidance with Cannabis   48:35 Challenges in the Medical System   53:26 Synthetic vs. Natural Plant Medicines   57:45 Connecting with Dr. Shelly Persad   58:56 Censorship and Social Media Challenges   01:00:51 Final Thoughts and Wisdom   To learn more about Dr. Shelly Persad, please visit: https://www.drshellypersad.com/   To read Somatophobia, please visit Amazon
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cannabis had basically said to me, Shelly, look, I know you're looking for Something external you haven't figured out what it is.
.116Not just for you, but for your patients as well If you trust me, I will guide you to everything you're looking for You don't need a lot of cannabis to reach a level of consciousness comparable to that of psilocybin or ayahuasca. 8 00:01:00,519.116 --> 00:01:06,139.116 Cannabis can open you up to that higher state of consciousness when her higher self is invoked. 9 00:01:09,158.231 --> 00:01:17,558.231 All of these sacred medicines, psilocybin, cannabis, ayahuasca, yagé, their sole purpose is to reveal us to us. 10 00:01:18,38.231 --> 00:01:19,758.231 So they are truly here. 11 00:01:19,778.231 --> 00:01:39,457.3455 Mother Earth has left them here for us to imbibe them, to access our higher consciousness, a higher perspective, so we can see ourselves Cannabis was discussed in the Vedas as one of five sacred plants that can liberate us, that can guide us out of the Maya, which is illusion. 12 00:01:43,246.4615 --> 00:01:46,326.4615 Those are clips from today's podcast with Dr. 13 00:01:46,326.4615 --> 00:01:47,936.4615 Shelly Prasad, Dr. 14 00:01:47,936.4615 --> 00:01:54,76.4605 Shelly is a multifaceted healer, a chiropractor, a womb shaman, and sacred secretion guide. 15 00:01:54,456.4615 --> 00:02:00,566.4615 Her journey began by addressing nervous system interferences, but burnout sparked a deeper quest. 16 00:02:00,896.4615 --> 00:02:04,706.4615 Through cannabis, she discovered profound healing within her womb. 17 00:02:05,91.4615 --> 00:02:13,1.4615 leading her to author Somatophobia and develop transformative self healing practices like body mind synchronization. 18 00:02:13,391.4615 --> 00:02:17,511.4605 As a womb shaman, she empowers women to awaken their inner healer. 19 00:02:17,911.4615 --> 00:02:23,311.4615 alongside her husband she hosts somatic plant medicine ceremonies and retreats. 20 00:02:23,641.4615 --> 00:02:27,721.4615 Join us as we delve into her inspiring journey and insights. 21 00:02:29,611.4615 --> 00:02:44,881.4595 I just wanted to officially welcome you to my podcast your perspective is obviously very different, and wanted to learn more and obviously share with as many people as possible what you do to help people. 22 00:02:44,961.4605 --> 00:02:48,301.4605 And let's start with somatophobia. 23 00:02:48,741.4605 --> 00:02:50,941.461 It's interesting because part of my name is in that. 24 00:02:52,781.461 --> 00:02:58,841.461 I know when I saw that, I was actually like, Soma, okay, yeah, there's a connection here. 25 00:02:58,871.461 --> 00:03:07,101.4615 Now, where are you from India originally? My parents are from India and they emigrated here in the early 1970s. 26 00:03:07,131.4615 --> 00:03:12,641.4625 I was born and brought up here, but obviously they named me, Soma or Soma. 27 00:03:12,816.4625 --> 00:03:13,206.4625 Yes. 28 00:03:13,896.4625 --> 00:03:14,546.4625 Beautiful. 29 00:03:14,566.4625 --> 00:03:16,816.4625 I'll send you a couple excerpts from my book. 30 00:03:16,876.4625 --> 00:03:27,836.463 So my husband's from Trinidad and Tobago and he grew up his parents are Indian, but second generation from India to Trinidad and Tobago. 31 00:03:28,346.463 --> 00:03:30,576.4625 So I knew it's so funny. 32 00:03:30,576.4625 --> 00:03:48,641.463 My chiropractor that I interned with in Massachusetts, when I introduced her to the work that I've given birth to, After closing my practices and now dedicating my time to my book and retreats and ceremonies, she's did you go to India? I'm like, no, Katina, all of the knowledge and wisdom was stored in my body. 33 00:03:49,31.463 --> 00:03:51,711.462 I healed myself and unlocked it from my body. 34 00:03:51,711.462 --> 00:03:54,881.463 So I went to India through my body to my past life. 35 00:03:56,341.462 --> 00:03:57,791.463 And she's you had to go to India. 36 00:03:57,811.463 --> 00:03:58,305.62133333 I'm like no. 37 00:03:58,305.72133333 --> 00:03:59,925.72133333 All past life memories. 38 00:03:59,995.72033333 --> 00:04:03,75.72133333 So yeah, I've spent many lives. 39 00:04:03,710.72133333 --> 00:04:05,270.72133333 In India being Indian. 40 00:04:05,270.72133333 --> 00:04:14,60.72033333 Even I'm not sure if you know this, but living here in Central America, in Honduras and in Columbia, there are Ganesh and Hanuman temples. 41 00:04:14,460.72133333 --> 00:04:15,860.72133333 Really? I did not know that. 42 00:04:15,860.82133333 --> 00:04:17,130.72133333 Really? Yes. 43 00:04:17,140.72133333 --> 00:04:21,680.72133333 On the side of one of the Andes mountains in Peru, there is a Shiva trident. 44 00:04:22,70.72133333 --> 00:04:24,790.72133333 That you can see 40 miles into the ocean. 45 00:04:24,800.72133333 --> 00:04:25,830.72133333 It's that big. 46 00:04:26,30.72133333 --> 00:04:32,580.72133333 Oh, indigenous people of South America have no recollection of how it got on the mountain or where it came from. 47 00:04:32,970.72033333 --> 00:04:39,420.72133333 Have they dated it? Do you know? No, there's a guy I love his YouTube videos. 48 00:04:39,440.72033333 --> 00:04:41,190.62033333 Praveen Mohan. 49 00:04:41,190.72033333 --> 00:04:43,60.72033333 I'm not sure if you've watched him. 50 00:04:43,210.72033333 --> 00:04:45,160.72033333 He goes around and he. 51 00:04:46,270.72033333 --> 00:04:50,570.72033333 He's like the Graham Hancock, the Indian version of Graham Hancock. 52 00:04:51,150.72033333 --> 00:04:56,60.72033333 He goes around to all the different Indian temples and sites, so he's done videos on it. 53 00:04:56,60.72033333 --> 00:05:06,560.72033333 I can't remember if he has carbon dated it or dated it at all, but it predates all of the Incan, Peruvian, indigenous civilizations. 54 00:05:06,925.72033333 --> 00:05:07,285.72033333 Okay. 55 00:05:07,315.72033333 --> 00:05:08,105.72033333 Wow. 56 00:05:08,515.72033333 --> 00:05:09,245.72033333 Wow. 57 00:05:09,345.72033333 --> 00:05:11,45.72033333 I will have to Google that. 58 00:05:11,695.72033333 --> 00:05:13,235.72033333 So I will send you. 59 00:05:13,255.72033333 --> 00:05:17,715.72033333 Yeah, I have, I think I have the link to the video because that one is one of my favorite ones. 60 00:05:17,775.72033333 --> 00:05:18,175.72033333 Okay. 61 00:05:18,185.72033333 --> 00:05:23,935.71933333 I'll send you the link to your email so you can check it out because it's just, it's so mind boggling. 62 00:05:24,15.71933333 --> 00:05:24,375.71933333 Yeah. 63 00:05:24,625.72033333 --> 00:05:28,345.72033333 And this is a whole nother conversation we can have with your roots being Indian. 64 00:05:28,395.72033333 --> 00:05:29,405.71933333 So you tell me. 65 00:05:29,905.71933333 --> 00:05:41,700.71983333 Tell me what, so my listeners can understand what First introduce yourself, right? And tell us about what you do and then explain what somatophobia is. 66 00:05:41,700.71983333 --> 00:05:45,660.71883333 You have a book on Amazon among other places, I'm sure. 67 00:05:46,190.71983333 --> 00:05:49,530.71883333 And what this means and how it manifests in people's lives. 68 00:05:51,400.71983333 --> 00:05:53,960.71983333 Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. 69 00:05:53,970.71983333 --> 00:05:54,660.71983333 I'm Dr. 70 00:05:54,660.71983333 --> 00:05:55,300.71983333 Sally. 71 00:05:55,630.71983333 --> 00:06:01,390.71983333 I go by the Cannabis Chiropractor and by the end of the podcast, you'll probably understand why. 72 00:06:02,50.71983333 --> 00:06:07,420.72083333 So as a chiropractor, I met burnout many times. 73 00:06:07,450.71983333 --> 00:06:14,805.72083333 And I thought it was because of playing the insurance game, playing into the system of So I left the U. 74 00:06:14,805.72083333 --> 00:06:15,45.72083333 S. 75 00:06:15,45.72083333 --> 00:06:16,355.72083333 I had a practice in Portugal. 76 00:06:16,355.72083333 --> 00:06:17,935.72083333 I had two practices in Mexico. 77 00:06:17,935.72083333 --> 00:06:21,465.72083333 And after four practices, I was still meeting burnout. 78 00:06:21,865.72083333 --> 00:06:23,315.62083333 And not because I couldn't keep up. 79 00:06:23,645.72083333 --> 00:06:33,745.72083333 My practice full of patients, but more importantly, because I knew there was more possible, I wasn't enjoying seeing my patients return with the same pain and symptoms. 80 00:06:34,345.71983333 --> 00:06:44,375.71983333 I knew that if I could just guide them to the root cause of their sciatica or their neck pain, that then the real healing that I knew was possible would occur. 81 00:06:45,15.71983333 --> 00:06:45,945.71983333 And. 82 00:06:46,560.72083333 --> 00:06:49,540.72083333 I also met that same burnout in my own healing journey. 83 00:06:50,50.72083333 --> 00:06:51,90.72083333 I was a seeker. 84 00:06:51,170.72083333 --> 00:06:56,820.72083333 I've always been a seeker of truth and the more that is possible, but I didn't find it externally. 85 00:06:57,390.72083333 --> 00:07:08,120.72083333 I tried numerous healing modalities, numerous chiropractic modalities, and The same triggers and traumas and wounds kept showing up. 86 00:07:08,630.72083333 --> 00:07:15,890.71983333 So I started seeing a pattern that, okay, I am here looking for real healing because whatever I'm doing is not working. 87 00:07:15,890.72083333 --> 00:07:22,890.72083333 And why is it not working? And that led me to giving birth to this book, Somatophobia. 88 00:07:23,550.71983333 --> 00:07:26,650.72083333 My journey began with plant medicine. 89 00:07:27,810.72083333 --> 00:07:44,810.71983333 And for anyone who is new to plant medicine or doesn't know what plant medicine is, it is these sacred plant medicines such as ayahuasca, psilocybin, cannabis, yahe, bufo, that alter us to a higher state of consciousness. 90 00:07:45,0.72083333 --> 00:08:12,375.72083333 So they literally give us a glimpse into our higher consciousness, yet The moment I met plant medicine, cannabis, and most people don't consider cannabis as a plant medicine, but Her higher self came to me and she literally said to me, Shelly, listen, I know that you have been looking external your entire life for this more that you know, as possible to truly help your patients. 91 00:08:12,985.71983333 --> 00:08:22,405.72083333 And this was one week after my very first experience with the strongest psychedelic on the planet called Bufo, complete death of the ego and rebirth, which is what. 92 00:08:23,295.72083333 --> 00:08:26,105.72083333 Gave rise to this new relationship with cannabis. 93 00:08:26,825.72083333 --> 00:08:29,375.72083333 So she literally introduced herself to me. 94 00:08:29,375.72083333 --> 00:08:32,735.72083333 Listen, I'm cannabis, the higher self of cannabis. 95 00:08:32,785.72083333 --> 00:08:35,665.72083333 And there is another way of consuming me. 96 00:08:35,685.72083333 --> 00:08:41,675.72083333 That's not recreational and that's not medicinal because both of those lead to a codependency. 97 00:08:42,125.72083333 --> 00:08:48,865.72083333 Recreational use of me leads to checking out, escapism, numbing, disassociation. 98 00:08:49,405.72083333 --> 00:09:04,875.72083333 Medicinal use of me still creates a dependency because what happens if you are consuming me to treat your pain or symptoms, what happens after you stop consuming me? The root cause of the pain or symptoms is still there, right? I'm like, okay, point taken. 99 00:09:05,265.72083333 --> 00:09:09,815.72083333 So she shared with me how to work with her only in sacred ceremony. 100 00:09:09,865.72083333 --> 00:09:18,185.72083333 So cannabis had basically said to me, Shelly, look, I know you're looking for Something external you haven't figured out what it is. 101 00:09:18,195.72083333 --> 00:09:31,400.72083333 Not just for you, but for your patients as well If you trust me, I will guide you to everything you're looking for But she asked me to only imbibe her, which is to consume consciously in sacred ceremony. 102 00:09:31,420.72083333 --> 00:09:32,640.72083333 She's here are the rules. 103 00:09:32,940.72083333 --> 00:09:37,370.72083333 Here are the nine divine pass codes to unlock my higher self from my safeguard. 104 00:09:38,30.72083333 --> 00:09:43,870.72083333 And if you only imbibe me in sacred ceremony, I will guide you to the everything that you're looking for. 105 00:09:44,320.71983333 --> 00:09:45,890.62083333 And that began my journey. 106 00:09:46,680.72083333 --> 00:09:55,400.71983333 Once a week, because at the time my husband had invited me to do meditation and I'm like, but the traditional form of meditation just doesn't work. 107 00:09:55,400.72083333 --> 00:10:03,750.72183333 I've tried it along with a bunch of other modalities and maybe a couple of hundred years ago or a thousand years ago when our ego was a lot less sick. 108 00:10:04,130.72083333 --> 00:10:08,290.72083333 Maybe that actually worked in terms of the working that I was looking for. 109 00:10:08,970.72083333 --> 00:10:14,300.72083333 So with cannabis, once a week, I was imbibing her sacredly. 110 00:10:14,455.72083333 --> 00:10:16,315.72083333 Breath work, meditation. 111 00:10:16,335.72083333 --> 00:10:27,25.71983333 And over about the course of a year, she started guiding me into unlocking this knowledge and wisdom that I always knew I had within me, but I didn't know how to access. 112 00:10:27,515.72083333 --> 00:10:29,455.71983333 That was the more that I was looking for. 113 00:10:30,325.72083333 --> 00:10:36,385.72083333 And that's when that saying that everything you're looking for is inside of you clicked into place. 114 00:10:36,585.72083333 --> 00:10:39,245.72083333 Oh, that's what that means. 115 00:10:39,275.71983333 --> 00:10:40,955.72083333 Now I found it. 116 00:10:41,305.72083333 --> 00:10:43,435.72083333 Because things started making sense. 117 00:10:43,655.72083333 --> 00:10:51,565.72083333 Oh, I couldn't guide my patients to the root cause of their sciatica because their ego is so afraid to drop into the body. 118 00:10:52,325.72083333 --> 00:10:54,545.72083333 Hence where the name of my book came from. 119 00:10:54,785.72083333 --> 00:10:56,415.72083333 Cannabis actually gifted it to me. 120 00:10:56,415.72083333 --> 00:11:07,895.71983333 She's what about somatophobia? Fear of the body, because the word somatic, somato, soma, it all refers to the body. 121 00:11:09,175.72083333 --> 00:11:09,725.72083333 Correct. 122 00:11:09,995.72083333 --> 00:11:10,475.72083333 Yes. 123 00:11:10,785.72083333 --> 00:11:23,210.71983333 Now, were these discoveries made within yourself or did you have someone guiding you? To learn yet. 124 00:11:23,220.71983333 --> 00:11:24,800.71983333 They were made within myself. 125 00:11:24,800.71983333 --> 00:11:25,970.71983333 I had no guidance. 126 00:11:26,210.71983333 --> 00:11:26,510.71983333 Okay. 127 00:11:26,530.71983333 --> 00:11:37,490.71883333 That was part of my frustration as well with the very first medicine ceremony that Literally this medicine called to me a patient introduced it to me. 128 00:11:37,490.71983333 --> 00:11:45,30.71983333 She's hey I met this medicine called Bufo and immediately I knew I'm like, whatever that is, I want that. 129 00:11:45,30.71983333 --> 00:11:45,750.71983333 I need that. 130 00:11:46,110.71983333 --> 00:11:54,130.71883333 Two weeks later, kids, you not, my husband came home from the real estate office and he's Oh, so and so from the real estate office introduced me to her husband. 131 00:11:54,130.71983333 --> 00:11:56,60.71983333 Who's a shaman and serves this medicine. 132 00:11:56,660.71883333 --> 00:11:57,20.71883333 Okay. 133 00:11:57,20.71983333 --> 00:11:59,560.71883333 We're getting a message two times in two weeks. 134 00:12:00,380.71883333 --> 00:12:01,970.71983333 It's time we pay attention and listen. 135 00:12:02,540.71983333 --> 00:12:06,610.71983333 And I was highly disappointed because being such a sacred medicine. 136 00:12:07,310.71983333 --> 00:12:08,500.71983333 There were no instructions. 137 00:12:08,885.71983333 --> 00:12:14,455.71983333 There was no, Shelly, you have to do a diet or a fast before meeting the sacred medicine. 138 00:12:14,795.71983333 --> 00:12:16,925.71983333 It was show up at the beach 7am on Saturday. 139 00:12:17,845.71983333 --> 00:12:22,385.71983333 I had no instructions after the ceremony what to expect. 140 00:12:23,35.71983333 --> 00:12:29,165.71983333 No instructions that if you consume cannabis, cannabis is going to reactivate your buffo experience. 141 00:12:29,785.71983333 --> 00:12:31,135.71983333 After a few shamans. 142 00:12:31,395.71983333 --> 00:12:33,65.71983333 Again, I was seeking guidance. 143 00:12:33,95.71983333 --> 00:12:37,5.71983333 This world was new to me, and I would ask them questions. 144 00:12:37,5.71983333 --> 00:12:40,865.71883333 Hey, so I just experienced this, and they had no guidance for me. 145 00:12:41,745.71883333 --> 00:12:53,845.71983333 And that is where every time I came back to my own daily practice, I wasn't imbibing cannabis every single day, once a week, but when I would check in with her once a week, she's Shelly, stop looking externally. 146 00:12:53,855.71983333 --> 00:12:56,215.71983333 You're not going to find what you're looking for. 147 00:12:56,565.71983333 --> 00:12:59,135.71983333 Trust you, trust me to guide you there. 148 00:12:59,675.71983333 --> 00:13:01,535.71983333 Everything you're looking for is in your body. 149 00:13:01,535.71983333 --> 00:13:06,445.71883333 So I literally had to guide myself because I didn't find the guidance externally. 150 00:13:07,405.71883333 --> 00:13:15,155.71783333 So help us walk through what a guided sacred cannabis journey looks like. 151 00:13:15,155.71783333 --> 00:13:19,375.71783333 So my listeners can imagine this while they're listening to this podcast. 152 00:13:21,15.71783333 --> 00:13:22,75.71783333 Absolutely. 153 00:13:23,25.71783333 --> 00:13:40,945.71783333 You'll begin by coming into a, whether it's a private ceremony or a group ceremony, I will guide you into creating your own safe and sacred space, blowing down your breath, closing your eyes, dropping in and cutting out any external distractions. 154 00:13:41,700.71783333 --> 00:13:46,620.71783333 On every exhale, letting go of any stress of the day, what's on your to do list. 155 00:13:47,580.71783333 --> 00:13:52,890.71783333 The time that you have allotted for this sacred cannabis ceremony is your time to be with you. 156 00:13:52,910.71683333 --> 00:13:54,270.71683333 So nothing else matters. 157 00:13:55,280.71783333 --> 00:14:02,650.71783333 And then once you have dropped into your safe and sacred space, then I guide you through a sacred cannabis imbibing ritual. 158 00:14:03,450.71783333 --> 00:14:09,320.71783333 So this is where I introduce you to the nine divine passcodes that unlock the higher self of cannabis. 159 00:14:10,70.71783333 --> 00:14:12,780.71783333 We begin by invoking her higher self. 160 00:14:12,790.71783333 --> 00:14:21,620.71783333 So her higher self, as spoken in the Vedas, literally they said there is an angel that lives in the leaves and the flowers of the cannabis plant. 161 00:14:22,170.71783333 --> 00:14:34,0.71683333 Who is that angel? That angel is the higher self of cannabis, the soul, the spirit of cannabis, just like ayahuasca, people will refer to her spirit as the grandmother. 162 00:14:34,600.71783333 --> 00:14:37,950.71683333 Cannabis spirit is like the mother, the divine mother. 163 00:14:39,420.71783333 --> 00:14:47,710.71783333 So she lives in the flower of the cannabis plant and without setting an intention, without invoking her. 164 00:14:48,575.71783333 --> 00:14:57,635.71783333 She will still show up and pull an intention out of your subconscious mind, which is usually rooted in fear because she wants you to heal. 165 00:14:58,245.71783333 --> 00:15:02,455.71683333 So invoking her higher self means you are now working with her higher self. 166 00:15:02,455.71783333 --> 00:15:10,875.71783333 So it doesn't matter the cost of the cannabis, the strain that you are consuming because you're working strictly with her higher self. 167 00:15:11,635.71783333 --> 00:15:18,85.71683333 Over a journey of a couple of years of working with her in sacred ceremony, your tolerance never increases. 168 00:15:18,580.71783333 --> 00:15:22,770.71783333 You only need one to three inhales to be in a deep shamanic journey. 169 00:15:23,130.71783333 --> 00:15:30,240.71783333 You don't need a lot of cannabis to reach a level of consciousness comparable to that of psilocybin or ayahuasca. 170 00:15:31,340.71783333 --> 00:15:36,960.71783333 Cannabis can open you up to that higher state of consciousness when her higher self is invoked. 171 00:15:37,560.71683333 --> 00:15:45,680.71783333 So we go through the invoking process, the asking of permission to imbibe her, the giving of permission to allow her to guide you. 172 00:15:45,935.71783333 --> 00:15:53,905.71783333 Into your body and into your mind to meet the pain of trauma stored in your body, to meet the story of trauma stored in your mind. 173 00:15:54,495.71783333 --> 00:16:07,225.71683333 And then there's a gratitude ritual, thanking mother earth for giving birth to the sacred medicine, thanking our divine parents for giving birth to the higher self of cannabis, as well as the higher self of you. 174 00:16:08,535.71783333 --> 00:16:14,955.61783333 And then there's an entire ritual of how to inhale her, how to meet her, how to visualize her. 175 00:16:15,155.71783333 --> 00:16:25,765.71783333 Her smoke flowing into whatever part of your body feels stuck, that when you get triggered, that wound that's stored there gets poked. 176 00:16:26,825.71783333 --> 00:16:30,625.71783333 So as you are inhaling cannabis, I guide you in movement. 177 00:16:30,635.71783333 --> 00:16:51,185.7178333 So you can drop into your body and start feeling, where do I have pain? Where do I have restrictions? Where do I have stuckness? Where are there suppressed emotions? And I guide you into your body so you can awaken your life force, which is, Being a chiropractor, the philosophy is the power that made the body heals the body. 178 00:16:51,725.7178333 --> 00:17:00,285.7178333 So as a chiropractor, I spend a lot of time adjusting my patient's spines, removing the interference in their nervous system for their life force energy to flow. 179 00:17:01,45.7168333 --> 00:17:08,428.6313333 The best way to describe what I do now in a guided ceremony is I guide you into your body to awaken your own life force. 180 00:17:08,428.6313333 --> 00:17:12,325.6178333 So you can then use your own life force to transmute. 181 00:17:12,565.7178333 --> 00:17:19,815.7178333 The interference, the stuck energies, the blockages, the suppressed emotions, the pain from past unhealed traumas. 182 00:17:20,525.7178333 --> 00:17:31,125.7178333 So the journey itself will look like a lot of movement and breath work and sounding and squeezing of the pelvic floor and tapping and pumping of the body. 183 00:17:31,605.7168333 --> 00:17:33,265.7178333 So there are seven different. 184 00:17:33,745.7178333 --> 00:17:42,225.7178333 As I've termed them, shock deactivators, which are different built in mechanisms that we came born with to awaken our body's life force. 185 00:17:42,995.7178333 --> 00:17:46,995.7178333 And our body's life force energy is located in our womb. 186 00:17:47,225.7178333 --> 00:17:50,15.7178333 For women, men also have a womb called Hara. 187 00:17:50,655.7178333 --> 00:17:57,465.7178333 So we have to descend into the deepest part of our body, our pelvis, which is our foundation to awaken our life force. 188 00:17:58,235.7168333 --> 00:18:00,675.7168333 And then it's a somatic meditation. 189 00:18:01,35.7178333 --> 00:18:07,55.7178333 So it's not a meditation where you just sit and try to quiet the thoughts and chant Om or chant a mantra. 190 00:18:07,825.7178333 --> 00:18:09,885.7178333 It's a movement meditation. 191 00:18:09,895.7178333 --> 00:18:12,155.7168333 It's a breathwork meditation. 192 00:18:12,765.7178333 --> 00:18:16,875.7178333 The goal of it is to bring the mind into the body. 193 00:18:17,295.7178333 --> 00:18:24,995.7178333 So the mind, Shiva, is now partnering with your life force, Shakti, masculine and feminine, coming together. 194 00:18:25,455.7178333 --> 00:18:28,15.7178333 The mind stays in the body to feel. 195 00:18:28,835.7178333 --> 00:18:29,445.7178333 Oh, okay. 196 00:18:29,445.7178333 --> 00:18:32,95.7178333 I feel this pain in my right hip, for example. 197 00:18:32,105.7178333 --> 00:18:46,815.7168333 So my mind is going to visualize and direct my breath into that restriction in my right hip transmuting, those stuck energies using breath, using movement, using sound, all of these Shakti activators are rhythmic. 198 00:18:47,540.7178333 --> 00:18:49,870.7178333 Because all pain and symptoms are just stuck energy. 199 00:18:49,920.7178333 --> 00:18:54,340.7178333 How do we get those stuck energies moving? Rhythm. 200 00:18:55,310.7178333 --> 00:19:04,310.7168333 And then at the end of the ceremony, there's a beautiful closing out ritual, sometimes with a shamanic medicine called rapé, which is a shamanic snuff. 201 00:19:04,320.7168333 --> 00:19:12,160.7178333 It's powder form of pure mapacho mixed with other herbs or flowers, tree bark or ashes or charcoal. 202 00:19:12,880.7178333 --> 00:19:16,340.7178333 And it's a medicine that you self serve up your nostrils. 203 00:19:16,540.7178333 --> 00:19:25,10.7178333 to flow into your sinuses, to bring balance between your right brain, left brain, masculine, feminine, to ground you to mother earth, to energize you. 204 00:19:25,480.7178333 --> 00:19:28,290.7178333 But for me, it's an integration medicine. 205 00:19:28,840.7178333 --> 00:19:33,250.7178333 Cannabis is a feminine medicine, guides you into your body. 206 00:19:33,380.7168333 --> 00:19:36,840.7178333 The rapé at the end of the ceremony is a masculine medicine. 207 00:19:36,840.7178333 --> 00:19:39,480.7178333 So now it links the mind to the body. 208 00:19:39,490.7178333 --> 00:19:43,220.6178333 So everything you transmuted in your body, rapé will help you to connect. 209 00:19:43,370.7178333 --> 00:19:51,740.7178333 Locate the story, store it away in one of the filing cabinets in your subconscious or unconscious mind so you can connect the story to the pain. 210 00:19:51,810.7178333 --> 00:19:54,700.7178333 Okay, we healed that, we can toss out the story. 211 00:19:54,820.7178333 --> 00:20:13,630.7178333 Now, who am I without that story, without that pain, without that trauma? And how long does it take for these sacred journeys to happen? So I offer online group ceremonies for women once a week, every Saturday, and they're an hour and a half. 212 00:20:13,645.7178333 --> 00:20:16,895.7178333 To two hours, including the sharing circle at the end. 213 00:20:17,355.7178333 --> 00:20:20,645.7178333 So it's an hour and a half of the cannabis imbibing ritual. 214 00:20:20,965.7178333 --> 00:20:36,305.7178333 I use in this specific ceremony, we use resistance bands because the fascia of the body, which is like the saran wrap, like connective tissue, the sacred record keeper of every memory of the soul. 215 00:20:36,905.7178333 --> 00:20:41,805.7178333 It's also according to neuroscientists, it's the pathway of consciousness in the body. 216 00:20:42,530.7178333 --> 00:20:48,460.7178333 So all the unhealed traumas and stuckness in the fascia are blockages to our higher consciousness. 217 00:20:49,10.7178333 --> 00:21:09,490.7168333 So in this particular ceremony, for example, we'll put a band around our arms if we're working and opening up our heart, shedding all the armor of conditional love, and then we'll use the bands to stretch our fascia, and then we'll add in breath work or sounding, humming, all of the different shock deactivators. 218 00:21:10,185.7178333 --> 00:21:21,375.7178333 activate the parasympathetic nervous system to shift us out of that tight, light, free state into a parasympathetic, relaxed state, as well as accessing our higher consciousness. 219 00:21:22,665.7178333 --> 00:21:24,675.7168333 And give us some examples, Dr. 220 00:21:24,675.7168333 --> 00:21:28,295.7178333 Shelley, about what kind of things people seek you for. 221 00:21:28,595.7178333 --> 00:21:32,595.7178333 You mentioned sciatica, other physical conditions. 222 00:21:32,895.7178333 --> 00:21:37,300.7178333 Maybe it even helps with Mental health issues as well. 223 00:21:38,470.7178333 --> 00:21:39,40.7178333 Yeah. 224 00:21:39,40.7178333 --> 00:21:52,400.7188333 So literally, and I know this is vague, anything and everything from addictions to cannabis, even because an addiction to cannabis, for example, is nothing more than an addiction to any other vice. 225 00:21:52,960.7188333 --> 00:22:00,710.7188333 It is a void that we are seeking to fill with something external, and that void can only be filled with our higher self. 226 00:22:01,500.7188333 --> 00:22:44,345.7188333 So from addictions to cannabis, to depression, anxiety, any host of mental health, from stress, to can't quiet the monkey mind, to insomnia, can't sleep at night, to body image issues, to all the different childhood wounds, Abandonment, rejection, betrayal, unlovable, not feeling good enough to a lot of the programming and belief systems that we know are keeping us feeling like we're living in a straitjacket, the poverty consciousness programming, survival fears, lack, not enough money, not enough time, not a, not skinny enough, not successful enough. 227 00:22:44,685.7188333 --> 00:22:58,660.7188333 So all of these things that keep us distracted from our highest potential from our higher consciousness, they all are stored in the body and they all can physically manifest as then pain such as sciatica, neck pain, back pain. 228 00:22:59,130.7188333 --> 00:23:10,940.7188333 They can manifest as symptoms, imbalanced hormones, endometriosis, Any womb symptom, PCOS, I struggled with polycystic ovary syndrome for many years. 229 00:23:11,670.7188333 --> 00:23:18,700.7188333 Imbalanced hormones, cystic acne, I struggled with adrenal burnout, chronic fatigue. 230 00:23:19,20.7178333 --> 00:23:26,940.7178333 So literally anything that is physically manifesting in the mind or body, this practice can help you access the root cause of that. 231 00:23:27,0.7178333 --> 00:23:28,730.7178333 So you can heal it on your own. 232 00:23:29,160.7178333 --> 00:23:30,290.6188333 And that is truly amazing. 233 00:23:30,510.7188333 --> 00:23:33,500.7188333 The core essence of these ceremonies, you are your own healer. 234 00:23:34,20.7188333 --> 00:23:40,870.7188333 With this kind of practice, and in the states I think it differs from state to state. 235 00:23:41,380.7188333 --> 00:24:05,770.7178333 For example, I know in certain states, and off the top of my mind, I can't remember where, but Silo Siobhan there's, Certain practitioners who do it and in, for example, in New Jersey, I think only ketamine is being used, but not necessarily psilocybin, New York, I think it's only being used for research purposes. 236 00:24:06,230.7188333 --> 00:24:15,520.7188333 How does that journey, do you have any experience there? How does that differ? Because some patients are interested in those kind of journeys. 237 00:24:16,10.7188333 --> 00:24:19,790.7188333 I don't necessarily have all the information about that. 238 00:24:19,970.7188333 --> 00:24:35,940.6188333 Sometimes I help them if I can, in terms of, providing them guidance as to where to go, how does that journey with cannabis differ from all those other tools or medicinal forms that I just mentioned. 239 00:24:37,30.6188333 --> 00:24:37,670.6188333 Absolutely. 240 00:24:37,670.6188333 --> 00:24:39,20.6188333 And it's such a good question. 241 00:24:39,40.6188333 --> 00:24:44,20.6188333 And there is a few tangents here to discuss first. 242 00:24:44,815.6188333 --> 00:24:53,215.6188333 All of these sacred medicines, psilocybin, cannabis, ayahuasca, yagé, their sole purpose is to reveal us to us. 243 00:24:53,695.6188333 --> 00:24:55,415.6188333 So they are truly here. 244 00:24:55,435.6188333 --> 00:25:34,340.6188333 Mother Earth has left them here for us to imbibe them, to access our higher consciousness, a higher perspective, so we can see ourselves and go Oh, I behave this way because my mother abandoned me, but my mother abandoned me really to show me that, I abandon me, but just having that level of awareness from the mental state is not enough, at least in my journey and being a chiropractor and understanding how traumas are stored in the body and keep the nervous system stuck in fight flight freeze and having done a lot of subconscious reprogramming modalities, talk therapy, anything from that state. 245 00:25:34,780.6188333 --> 00:25:38,120.6188333 It's not enough because the trauma in the body is still there. 246 00:25:38,580.6188333 --> 00:25:56,930.6188333 So from my personal, and this is just my perspective, my point of view, I'm not here to offend anyone or to judge anyone, but putting on blindfolds and just journeying with the medicine from a mental state where the ego is so afraid to drop into the body, to really feel that trauma. 247 00:25:57,600.6188333 --> 00:25:59,300.6188333 People will get healing from it. 248 00:25:59,320.6188333 --> 00:26:02,500.6178333 The Lysiban works in the background to rewire our. 249 00:26:02,865.6188333 --> 00:26:03,905.6188333 Neural networks. 250 00:26:04,365.6188333 --> 00:26:18,355.6178333 But the thing is, if we go home and we go right back into those same coping mechanisms, defense systems, trauma reactions, guess what? We took two steps forward, four steps back. 251 00:26:18,880.6188333 --> 00:26:21,450.6188333 Because the integration is the most important. 252 00:26:22,10.6188333 --> 00:26:26,60.6188333 The medicine will show you, you then have to change you. 253 00:26:26,510.6188333 --> 00:26:35,860.6193333 And that's where when I entered the plant medicine world, I saw a lot of people returning to the medicine ceremonies, coming back for more. 254 00:26:37,20.6193333 --> 00:26:40,970.6193333 And cannabis reminded me, Shelly, you got burned out. 255 00:26:41,990.6193333 --> 00:26:44,290.6193333 People coming back, same pain and symptoms. 256 00:26:44,290.6193333 --> 00:26:45,970.6193333 They weren't getting real healing. 257 00:26:46,70.6193333 --> 00:26:52,240.6188333 Don't fall into that trap because what is missing here is being guided into the body. 258 00:26:52,240.6188333 --> 00:26:53,950.6183333 There was, and that's what I was looking for. 259 00:26:54,520.6193333 --> 00:27:02,545.5193333 I attended a few group ceremonies, laid down, received the medicine, but I didn't receive much because I didn't go into my body. 260 00:27:03,155.6193333 --> 00:27:23,205.6193333 And that is where I guided myself on my own in this journey, because I didn't see any other shaman or medicine person guiding people into their body, and it's because they don't know their body, and if they haven't gone there, how can they guide anyone else there? So there is that aspect to it. 261 00:27:23,585.6193333 --> 00:27:42,645.6183333 The other aspect, specifically regarding ketamine, my experience with ketamine is We're already as a humanity, we're already living disconnected from our spirit, disembodied from our body, and disassociating due to traumas, checking out, numbing, escaping. 262 00:27:43,875.6193333 --> 00:27:53,745.6183333 And with ketamine being an analgesic, it's literally a pain reliever in my own personal experience, that medicine and it's synthetic. 263 00:27:53,745.6193333 --> 00:27:56,435.6193333 So it's not a plant medicine from mother earth. 264 00:27:56,445.6193333 --> 00:27:57,685.6183333 It has no spirit. 265 00:27:58,95.6183333 --> 00:28:11,995.6183333 It actually leads to further disassociation, further numbing, further checking out and escapism while it does have its benefits for certain mental health concerns, whether it's PTSD, depression, or anxiety. 266 00:28:13,155.6193333 --> 00:28:32,15.6183333 It can be great, but I have personally witnessed a lot of people become addicted to ketamine because they are addicted to checking out calling it healing when is it really healing and that's just my personal opinion from what I've experienced and what I know about the medicine ketamine. 267 00:28:32,345.6193333 --> 00:28:34,985.6193333 I have met ketamine personally. 268 00:28:35,895.6193333 --> 00:28:37,735.6193333 I go into my body. 269 00:28:38,730.6193333 --> 00:28:40,740.6193333 I don't just lay down and check out. 270 00:28:40,760.6193333 --> 00:28:44,260.6193333 I forcefully no, we are not disassociating with this medicine. 271 00:28:44,260.6193333 --> 00:28:48,920.6193333 We are going to go into the body to feel because you got to feel it to heal it. 272 00:28:49,470.6193333 --> 00:29:06,560.6203333 What challenges do you face when trying to help someone who is, dealing with somatophobia what do you, try to do when you meet those challenges? The biggest challenge is a three letter word called ego. 273 00:29:09,60.6203333 --> 00:29:18,310.6203333 So once a month, I offer a free ceremonial book reading and it's a book reading, not a traditional book reading. 274 00:29:18,540.6203333 --> 00:29:20,640.6203333 My husband plays musical instruments. 275 00:29:20,640.6203333 --> 00:29:24,960.6193333 I sing the book because it's rhythmic and. 276 00:29:25,500.6203333 --> 00:29:28,390.6203333 Believe it or not, and it is a sacred cannabis ceremony. 277 00:29:28,390.6203333 --> 00:29:31,60.6203333 So people will meet cannabis in a sacred way. 278 00:29:31,590.6203333 --> 00:29:32,760.6203333 Believe it or not. 279 00:29:32,860.6203333 --> 00:29:34,430.6203333 It's not because it's free. 280 00:29:34,480.6203333 --> 00:29:36,90.6203333 The money excuse is gone. 281 00:29:36,860.6203333 --> 00:29:39,800.6203333 Time could be the only excuse people could use, but. 282 00:29:40,235.6203333 --> 00:30:03,55.6203333 A lot of people always tell me, Shelly, wow, the moment I said yes to joining that free book reading, my ego came online and tried to come up with every reason, justification, and excuse to not attend because the ego is deathly afraid of losing power and control over us. 283 00:30:03,565.6203333 --> 00:30:05,755.6203333 The moment we check into our body. 284 00:30:05,990.6203333 --> 00:30:12,180.6203333 And we heal some of those traumas that the ego has maintained control over to keep us safe. 285 00:30:12,540.6203333 --> 00:30:16,840.6203333 The whole purpose of the ego was to protect us to prevent pain. 286 00:30:17,280.6203333 --> 00:30:20,400.6193333 But the thing is, the ego has turned into a dictator. 287 00:30:20,930.6193333 --> 00:30:23,300.6203333 Our ego has become the master of us. 288 00:30:23,880.6193333 --> 00:30:37,335.6203333 So the ego will come up with fear, reasons, justifications, and excuses to not go to not join the free book reading because it's so afraid of You reclaiming your power over it. 289 00:30:37,980.6203333 --> 00:30:39,860.6203333 It losing power over you. 290 00:30:39,880.6203333 --> 00:30:57,940.6203333 And that is my biggest challenge as well as the war on drugs, the programming, all of the fears and the preconceived ideas and notions about cannabis, simply because a lot of her true ancient knowledge and wisdom. 291 00:30:58,795.6203333 --> 00:31:02,505.6203333 Dating all the way back thousands of years ago to the Vedas has been lost. 292 00:31:02,515.6203333 --> 00:31:03,515.6203333 It's been forgotten. 293 00:31:03,515.6203333 --> 00:31:04,245.6203333 It's been burnt. 294 00:31:04,245.6203333 --> 00:31:05,405.6203333 It's been destroyed. 295 00:31:05,745.6203333 --> 00:31:07,755.6203333 History has been rewritten. 296 00:31:08,105.6203333 --> 00:31:16,715.6203333 The war on drugs has literally demonized her, made her evil, made her a gateway drug, when she's none of that. 297 00:31:17,5.6193333 --> 00:31:19,385.6193333 She's a gateway to our higher consciousness. 298 00:31:19,600.6203333 --> 00:31:35,970.6203333 If imbibed in sacred ceremony, but you see they did something when they started legalizing all these plant medicines, they knew that humanity was in such a state of lower consciousness and trauma that. 299 00:31:36,255.6203333 --> 00:31:38,445.6203333 Go ahead, legalize these plant medicines. 300 00:31:38,465.6203333 --> 00:31:45,865.6203333 People aren't going to remember how to liberate and free themselves anyway, which these plant medicines can help us liberate ourselves. 301 00:31:46,295.6203333 --> 00:32:04,685.6193333 So now they're legalizing them because they know that a good portion of humanity will just use these medicines to check out even more, to become addicted to just like alcohol, just like gambling or porn or sex or social media, chasing the false highs. 302 00:32:04,725.6193333 --> 00:32:09,570.6203333 And that really is what Being a traumatized society. 303 00:32:09,570.6203333 --> 00:32:17,40.6193333 We are addicted to chasing false highs, anything to give us a brief vacation from the stress of our reality. 304 00:32:18,330.6203333 --> 00:32:19,540.6203333 You're absolutely right. 305 00:32:19,620.6203333 --> 00:32:20,700.6203333 You're absolutely right. 306 00:32:21,280.6203333 --> 00:32:27,800.6203333 I think our need for instant gratification really drives a lot of it. 307 00:32:28,320.6203333 --> 00:32:46,840.6203333 And whether that's related to our ego or not, maybe you know more than I do, so curious, while you were talking, you were saying that you use different, possibly doses of cannabis. 308 00:32:47,280.6203333 --> 00:32:57,760.6203333 Does that differ from person to person? How do you determine those doses? Obviously you're not doing it for recreational purposes. 309 00:32:58,240.6193333 --> 00:33:03,250.6193333 You're doing it for medicinal purposes to relieve pain, to relieve suffering. 310 00:33:03,730.6203333 --> 00:33:08,630.6203333 So how do you determine those doses? It's dependent on the person. 311 00:33:08,640.6203333 --> 00:33:15,180.6203333 So for example, someone who does not have a relationship at all with cannabis will not need much. 312 00:33:15,180.6203333 --> 00:33:20,670.6203333 So if it's a private ceremony or even a guided ceremony, I always encourage the person. 313 00:33:21,30.6203333 --> 00:33:21,940.6203333 Let's go slow. 314 00:33:22,260.6193333 --> 00:33:28,760.6203333 Even in my group ceremonies, it's not a sit here and just keep Inhaling and puffing. 315 00:33:28,760.6203333 --> 00:33:29,220.6203333 It's okay. 316 00:33:29,220.6203333 --> 00:33:35,980.6203333 We're going to inhale once let's go into practice because our body has an endocannabinoid system. 317 00:33:36,320.6193333 --> 00:33:41,960.6203333 So we just need a little bit to turn on and activate our body's endocannabinoid system. 318 00:33:42,620.6193333 --> 00:33:46,580.6193333 And that system sole purpose is to return us back to a state of balance. 319 00:33:47,440.6203333 --> 00:33:53,540.6203333 And this is where there is a downfall because consumed recreationally. 320 00:33:54,640.6203333 --> 00:33:59,480.6203333 Okay, you consume cannabis recreationally to check out because cannabis is a mirror. 321 00:33:59,480.6203333 --> 00:34:04,280.6203333 So if we live disembodied, cannabis is going to mirror that disembodiment to us. 322 00:34:05,300.6203333 --> 00:34:10,940.6193333 The endocannabinoid system is like the master checks and balances system. 323 00:34:11,40.6203333 --> 00:34:16,520.6203333 It's sole purpose is to restore balance in the nervous system between the sympathetic and parasympathetic state. 324 00:34:17,10.6203333 --> 00:34:20,180.6203333 To restore balance in the endocrine system among our hormones. 325 00:34:20,220.6203333 --> 00:34:25,900.6203333 Restore balance between our masculine and our feminine, our mind and body, our right brain, left brain. 326 00:34:26,450.6203333 --> 00:34:31,660.6213333 The sole purpose is to bring us back into a state of balance because we're living so out of balance. 327 00:34:32,370.6213333 --> 00:34:55,255.6213333 But the moment the recreational cannabis high wears off, guess what? The balance that the endocannabinoid system Restored also wears off because the root of imbalance is still there in the body and in the mind medicinal use if someone is consuming cannabis to treat their pain or symptoms. 328 00:34:56,270.6213333 --> 00:35:05,70.6213333 The moment the medicinal high wears off, so does the balance, because what happens if they were to stop consuming cannabis? The pain and symptoms are still there. 329 00:35:05,390.6213333 --> 00:35:09,840.6213333 That root cause of abandonment or betrayal or rejection is still there. 330 00:35:10,500.6213333 --> 00:35:23,315.6213333 So in sacred ceremony, imbibing cannabis to activate the endocannabinoid system, and then going into the body, opening the door to the mind, meeting those root causes, uprooting them. 331 00:35:23,675.6213333 --> 00:35:32,285.6203333 Now we are becoming literally not dependent on cannabis, but we are working alongside our own body's endocannabinoid system. 332 00:35:32,925.6213333 --> 00:35:44,430.6213333 So now when the ceremonial high wears off, we are in a further state of balance because we are one trauma less, or a couple traumas less, or a couple emotions lighter. 333 00:35:44,940.6213333 --> 00:35:59,250.6213333 The sole purpose of really working with cannabis in sacred ceremony is to move us back to that state of divine union, balance between our masculine feminine, mind body, right brain left brain, sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. 334 00:35:59,730.6213333 --> 00:36:01,380.6213333 I call her the divine union plant. 335 00:36:03,170.6213333 --> 00:36:10,470.6213333 And how many sessions, I know that can also vary from person to person, but let's say someone is having chronic pain. 336 00:36:10,490.6213333 --> 00:36:12,860.6213333 We'll pick sciatica as an example. 337 00:36:13,140.6213333 --> 00:36:29,220.6213333 How many sessions have you usually seen that people are doing much better after going through this journey? It can be in as short as one session, It can be a couple over the course of a month. 338 00:36:29,860.6213333 --> 00:36:36,620.6203333 It can be a couple of months depending how intense or chronic their sciatica is and what else it's connected to. 339 00:36:37,330.6203333 --> 00:36:40,960.6223333 And a lot of people have this question of, okay and it was no different. 340 00:36:41,20.6223333 --> 00:36:52,620.6223333 My patients, they would always ask me, okay, so how many adjustments do I need before the pain goes away? And one of the things I always remind them is the pain and symptoms are the last to show up and the first to go away. 341 00:36:52,620.7223333 --> 00:36:52,685.5223333 Okay. 342 00:36:53,75.6223333 --> 00:36:58,45.6223333 So just because the pain is gone doesn't mean the root cause is totally gone. 343 00:36:58,635.6223333 --> 00:37:06,770.6223333 So one of the things, being a chiropractor, One of my own frustrations, and I knew I wanted to be a chiropractor since I was 13. 344 00:37:07,690.6223333 --> 00:37:12,690.6213333 My knees started giving out on me, dislocating, I couldn't walk good for six weeks. 345 00:37:12,710.6223333 --> 00:37:18,390.6213333 Orthopedic surgeons were like, okay we will break both of your heels and reset them and that'll fix your knees. 346 00:37:18,640.6203333 --> 00:37:20,470.6213333 And at 13, I was devastated. 347 00:37:21,0.6213333 --> 00:37:27,960.6213333 I'm like, no, I just found my new hobby, which is the gym, and I won't be able to walk for six months. 348 00:37:28,530.6203333 --> 00:37:30,150.6213333 There's gotta be another option. 349 00:37:30,770.6213333 --> 00:37:34,880.6213333 So my mother took me to a chiropractor and voila, everything made sense. 350 00:37:34,880.6213333 --> 00:37:37,90.6213333 If I bring my body back into alignment. 351 00:37:37,120.6213333 --> 00:37:37,790.6213333 Okay, I get it. 352 00:37:39,330.6213333 --> 00:37:45,490.6213333 But even when I was going through chiropractic college, I would always ask, I'm getting adjusted three times a week. 353 00:37:45,850.6213333 --> 00:37:50,140.5213333 I still have this right SI joint misalignment. 354 00:37:50,420.6213333 --> 00:38:00,215.5213333 So what am I missing here? Why is my body not holding its adjustment? Why do I need to keep going back and getting adjusted? And then practicing outside of the U S. 355 00:38:00,405.6213333 --> 00:38:08,725.6213333 I didn't have a lot of chiropractors around to adjust me, so I had to sever my dependency on needing someone external to adjust me. 356 00:38:09,295.6213333 --> 00:38:18,395.6203333 So this is where, also, with this practice with the resistance bands, which I call womb kriyas, it was my relentless pursuit. 357 00:38:18,610.6213333 --> 00:38:22,870.6213333 to get to the root cause of this right SI joint misalignment. 358 00:38:23,730.6213333 --> 00:38:35,680.6213333 And Soma, I cannot even begin to tell you the root causes that I have had to meet to unravel this stuckness, this pain, this restriction. 359 00:38:36,930.6203333 --> 00:38:38,820.6203333 It's been a couple of years of unraveling it. 360 00:38:38,840.6213333 --> 00:38:46,835.6213333 The pain, I don't live with the pain, but when I go into my daily practice without cannabis or my Weekly practice with cannabis. 361 00:38:47,185.6213333 --> 00:38:51,775.6213333 I will go deep into it and it has been everything from it's on my right side. 362 00:38:51,775.6213333 --> 00:38:53,545.6213333 So it's the masculine side of my body. 363 00:38:54,65.6213333 --> 00:38:55,645.6213333 It's been the father wound. 364 00:38:55,655.6213333 --> 00:38:57,285.6213333 It's been poverty consciousness. 365 00:38:57,295.6203333 --> 00:38:59,65.6213333 It's been survival fears. 366 00:38:59,105.6213333 --> 00:39:00,195.6203333 I was a breached baby. 367 00:39:00,215.6213333 --> 00:39:02,985.6213333 My mother had a C section to give birth to me. 368 00:39:03,395.6213333 --> 00:39:12,305.6213333 So in one of my journeys, I went back into the memory of being inside my mother's womb and seeing the distorted position I was in because I didn't have enough space. 369 00:39:12,715.6213333 --> 00:39:13,985.6213333 So that position. 370 00:39:14,900.6213333 --> 00:39:16,780.6213333 Caused my pelvis to be out of alignment. 371 00:39:16,790.6213333 --> 00:39:21,290.6213333 And then as I grew over the years, I had a little bit of scoliosis. 372 00:39:21,300.6213333 --> 00:39:24,610.6213333 So my spine grew with that misalignment. 373 00:39:24,610.6213333 --> 00:39:27,960.6213333 So that misalignment began from the time I was in my mother's womb. 374 00:39:29,180.6213333 --> 00:39:31,890.6203333 But just going and getting adjusted in a chiropractor's office. 375 00:39:32,495.6213333 --> 00:39:35,105.6213333 I could never get there with my ego intact. 376 00:39:35,465.6213333 --> 00:39:37,125.6213333 Logical thinking mind. 377 00:39:37,615.6213333 --> 00:39:57,960.6213333 What do you mean my, this pain in my right hip is because of how I was positioned in my mother's wound? What do you mean it's my father wound and it's my father losing money in a lawsuit and th My father's issue is stored in my right hip? So the root cause is Never what we think it is logically. 378 00:39:58,0.6213333 --> 00:39:59,570.6213333 And that was the missing link for me. 379 00:39:59,570.6213333 --> 00:40:03,810.6213333 I could never guide my patients to the root cause because they wanted to figure it out. 380 00:40:03,810.6213333 --> 00:40:07,480.6208333 Logically, the world we live in, everything is logical and linear. 381 00:40:07,480.6208333 --> 00:40:11,80.6213333 This realm of the feminine is a forgotten art. 382 00:40:11,190.6203333 --> 00:40:13,610.6203333 It's a forgotten language. 383 00:40:13,700.6203333 --> 00:40:17,560.6213333 And we have forgotten how to hear the messages that our body gives us. 384 00:40:18,950.6213333 --> 00:40:19,930.6213333 That is very true. 385 00:40:19,930.6213333 --> 00:40:27,430.6213333 I just came off of a podcast and we were talking about the very same thing where we don't Listen to our own bodies. 386 00:40:28,530.6213333 --> 00:40:52,260.6203333 One of the things I was also curious about while you were talking was as a practitioner and as a person I it sounds like you have used ketamine yourself I don't know if you've used it had it with, for your clients or patients versus ayahuasca versus psilocybin. 387 00:40:52,790.6203333 --> 00:41:08,815.6193333 Why cannabis? What is the difference for you? Not intermedicinally, right? But what was the difference between cannabis and the others that you prefer cannabis for Patients as well as for yourself for these journeys. 388 00:41:09,555.6193333 --> 00:41:10,55.6193333 Yeah. 389 00:41:10,65.6193333 --> 00:41:22,545.6183333 So one cannabis is readily available for most people and not getting into the legal issues, but even in states where cannabis is not legal, people can still access it. 390 00:41:22,595.6193333 --> 00:41:25,925.6193333 High schoolers today, and sadly no high schooler should be. 391 00:41:26,300.6193333 --> 00:41:31,880.6193333 introduced to cannabis, but high schoolers can easily access cannabis in a state where it's illegal. 392 00:41:32,410.6193333 --> 00:41:44,340.6188333 So on my journey with Bufo being the strongest psychedelic on the planet, cannabis is okay, all of these other stronger medicines give you glimpses into your higher consciousness. 393 00:41:45,590.6188333 --> 00:41:49,190.6188333 This, because cannabis is so readily available and accessible. 394 00:41:50,165.6188333 --> 00:41:55,765.6188333 This practice with cannabis paired with the endocannabinoid system, moving back into a state of balance. 395 00:41:57,255.6188333 --> 00:42:06,675.6178333 This is literally like the fast track to embodying our higher consciousness so that we don't have to go and take a stronger medicine to get a glimpse of it. 396 00:42:06,675.6188333 --> 00:42:14,915.6188333 Because I've worked with, I've had clients who've visited Peru a hundred times and sat with ayahuasca a hundred times. 397 00:42:14,975.6188333 --> 00:42:24,595.6188333 And then they arrived to me and, Hey, so what have you healed? What do you mean, what have I healed? I've had these visions or these experiences, but I haven't really healed anything. 398 00:42:25,395.6188333 --> 00:42:35,15.6188333 And that is where at the beginning of my journey, I saw that in these bigger group ayahuasca or psilocybin ceremonies, there's no one on one guidance. 399 00:42:35,675.6178333 --> 00:42:45,260.6188333 Cannabis has helped me to remember that in ancient times, There were rites of passages that we received before sitting with or drinking a sacred medicine. 400 00:42:46,210.6188333 --> 00:42:53,630.6178333 We weren't just, here's the medicine and expected to know how to navigate it from our ego traumatized state. 401 00:42:54,70.6188333 --> 00:42:58,610.6188333 So I'd work with a lot of people in integrating them with these stronger medicines. 402 00:42:58,610.6198333 --> 00:43:02,110.6188333 Let's say, Yahir Ayahuasca, where they're not guided into their body. 403 00:43:02,710.6188333 --> 00:43:03,930.6188333 They will meet fear. 404 00:43:03,940.6188333 --> 00:43:09,150.6188333 They will have scary dark visions, but the shaman isn't there offering them one on one guidance. 405 00:43:09,760.6188333 --> 00:43:13,260.6188333 So then cannabis becomes a beautiful integration medicine. 406 00:43:13,620.6188333 --> 00:43:25,280.6188333 So in my integration ceremonies, we will imbibe cannabis sacredly and then revisit ayahuasca, yahweh, whatever ceremony they experienced where they were not guided into their body. 407 00:43:25,630.6188333 --> 00:43:28,40.6188333 cannabis can reactivate any plant medicine. 408 00:43:28,530.6188333 --> 00:43:29,460.6188333 She can mimic. 409 00:43:29,900.6188333 --> 00:43:31,90.6188333 Any plant medicine. 410 00:43:31,540.6188333 --> 00:43:38,770.6188333 So for example, if you have sat with ayahuasca, but there was no guidance, you met fear, but the shaman didn't guide you through the fear. 411 00:43:39,140.6188333 --> 00:43:41,880.6188333 And a week later, let's say you work with me. 412 00:43:41,930.6188333 --> 00:43:44,630.6188333 I guide you over zoom in a cannabis ceremony. 413 00:43:45,70.6188333 --> 00:43:45,280.6188333 Okay. 414 00:43:45,330.6188333 --> 00:43:46,170.6188333 So share with me. 415 00:43:48,90.6188333 --> 00:43:51,380.6188333 What did you see? What did you feel? Close your eyes. 416 00:43:51,420.6188333 --> 00:43:52,40.6188333 Go back there. 417 00:43:52,40.6188333 --> 00:43:52,740.6188333 Revisit it. 418 00:43:52,750.6188333 --> 00:44:03,700.6178333 Cannabis will guide you there so that you don't miss out on that opportunity to feel and heal whatever you didn't feel and heal with ayahuasca, but with cannabis. 419 00:44:03,700.6188333 --> 00:44:05,890.6188333 So she works as a sister medicine. 420 00:44:06,900.6198333 --> 00:44:07,860.6188333 She's beautiful. 421 00:44:07,860.6188333 --> 00:44:08,790.6178333 She's gentle. 422 00:44:08,830.6178333 --> 00:44:10,360.6178333 She's not as intense. 423 00:44:10,370.6178333 --> 00:44:11,890.6178333 She's not as scary. 424 00:44:12,220.6178333 --> 00:44:20,15.6188333 She's not as Grab you by the hand and whisk you off to the cosmos without you being able to breathe and catch your breath. 425 00:44:20,305.6188333 --> 00:44:27,15.6178333 So she's a much gentler medicine, but she's just as powerful as the other medicines with the other medicines. 426 00:44:27,25.6188333 --> 00:44:29,505.6188333 Psilocybin is my next favorite medicine. 427 00:44:29,725.6188333 --> 00:44:31,875.6188333 I recommend Microdosing. 428 00:44:32,595.6188333 --> 00:44:35,395.6188333 I recommend pairing psilocybin with cannabis. 429 00:44:35,455.6188333 --> 00:44:37,545.6188333 And when you don't need a lot of psilocybin. 430 00:44:38,85.6188333 --> 00:44:41,775.6188333 A lot of people recommend the Hero's Journey 5 grams. 431 00:44:42,605.6188333 --> 00:44:51,115.6178333 You can consume half a gram of psilocybin, one or two inhales of cannabis, and you will go just as deep as a 5 gram psilocybin journey. 432 00:44:52,885.6188333 --> 00:44:58,555.5188333 Psilocybin has a lot of benefits, so I work with psilocybin a lot, but cannabis really wanted it. 433 00:45:01,75.6188333 --> 00:45:02,795.6188333 My book is dedicated to her. 434 00:45:03,465.6188333 --> 00:45:05,100.5188333 She literally was like. 435 00:45:05,370.6188333 --> 00:45:15,380.6188333 Will you help me restore the sacredness of cannabis? Give birth to this book here, give birth to these ceremonies. 436 00:45:15,390.6188333 --> 00:45:20,60.6188333 So me and her have a relationship that go back so many lifetimes. 437 00:45:20,70.6188333 --> 00:45:24,260.6178333 So a lot of this work was birthed from memories from past lives. 438 00:45:25,390.6188333 --> 00:45:39,220.6188333 And if we look at India, cannabis, even though it's illegal there, even though people can find cannabis in India and consume it not in spiritual practices, I remember listening to a podcast with Dr. 439 00:45:39,220.6198333 --> 00:45:48,815.6198333 Chopra, and he was visiting India and he asked his taxi driver, What are the guys on the side of the road smoking? And the taxi driver said, Ganja. 440 00:45:49,135.6198333 --> 00:45:49,735.6198333 Cannabis. 441 00:45:50,215.6198333 --> 00:45:54,805.6198333 And he's Can you get me some? And the taxi driver said, No, it's illegal. 442 00:45:54,805.6198333 --> 00:46:01,705.6188333 Only the rishis and the sadhus and the yogis and the holy men are allowed to consume cannabis for their spiritual practice. 443 00:46:02,255.6188333 --> 00:46:03,775.6198333 Cannabis gave birth to yoga. 444 00:46:04,365.6198333 --> 00:46:12,945.6188333 Cannabis was discussed in the Vedas as one of five sacred plants that can liberate us, that can guide us out of the Maya, which is illusion. 445 00:46:13,345.6188333 --> 00:46:16,195.6198333 It's all of our, it's that straight jacket that I talk about. 446 00:46:17,605.6188333 --> 00:46:28,655.6198333 And when we look at some of the other medicines, for example, ayahuasca, yahweh, DMT, and flower form, not synthetic DMT, because any synthetic medicine. 447 00:46:29,110.6198333 --> 00:46:31,810.6198333 doesn't have a soul, doesn't have a spirit. 448 00:46:32,410.6198333 --> 00:46:38,220.6198333 So I prefer working with medicines that have a soul or a spirit with these other stronger medicines. 449 00:46:39,395.6198333 --> 00:46:41,395.6198333 They're more taxing on our physical body. 450 00:46:42,215.6198333 --> 00:46:49,715.6198333 So for example, drinking yahweh 25 times a year is going to start taxing our liver. 451 00:46:49,715.6198333 --> 00:46:58,745.6198333 So if we're not taking care of our liver has to process a lot of these stronger chemical compounds in the ayahuasca or in the yahweh. 452 00:46:59,195.6198333 --> 00:47:02,275.6198333 So for example, and it's a beautiful story. 453 00:47:02,315.6198333 --> 00:47:10,295.6198333 I was just reminding my husband this morning, Remember our ayahuasca ceremony? we've consumed ayahuasca once. 454 00:47:12,5.6198333 --> 00:47:16,755.6198333 And we integrated that one ayahuasca ceremony for three years. 455 00:47:17,245.6198333 --> 00:47:38,15.6198333 So our shaman, who at the time we were apprenticing with, he offered us a private ayahuasca ceremony and the entire ceremony in between the purging, my husband was reading this massive book on mother earth, flipping the pages, writing on the dirt, and then he would purge and then he would come back and he would read some more and he'd write some more. 456 00:47:38,15.6198333 --> 00:47:39,50.5198333 And then he'd purge. 457 00:47:39,580.6198333 --> 00:47:44,210.6198333 And I'm over here, I'm singing and I'm purging and I'm moving my body and I'm purging. 458 00:47:45,140.6198333 --> 00:47:48,290.6198333 And it didn't hit us at the time of what we were doing. 459 00:47:49,900.6198333 --> 00:48:00,480.6188333 After our ayahuasca ceremony, our daily practice, once or twice a week our cannabis ceremony, this is where the book started coming in and we started writing it. 460 00:48:00,590.6198333 --> 00:48:09,510.6198333 So literally it was one ayahuasca ceremony, a lot of integration with cannabis, and that is what gave birth to somatophobia. 461 00:48:10,410.6198333 --> 00:48:17,580.6188333 So the process of going through a journey led to the book and it was an ayahuasca journey. 462 00:48:18,50.6188333 --> 00:48:19,470.6198333 It was ayahuasca. 463 00:48:19,490.6198333 --> 00:48:25,150.6198333 And once literally a few months before my book was finished, but it was being formatted and edited. 464 00:48:25,630.6188333 --> 00:48:28,950.6198333 Then we sat with Yahe three evenings in a row. 465 00:48:28,950.6198333 --> 00:48:49,940.6188333 And that was like, Okay, time to close this cycle and begin a new cycle, right? So as a chiropractor and I'm basically drawing an analogy as a doctor as an internist there are times when I feel that my Hands are tied behind my back, there's not much I can do. 466 00:48:49,940.6188333 --> 00:48:52,890.6188333 And that can be because of time limitations. 467 00:48:53,210.6188333 --> 00:49:08,450.6198333 I can't necessarily prescribe certain medications or availability at least in, in this part of the country, there are massive shortages of specifically primary care physicians like myself. 468 00:49:08,940.6198333 --> 00:49:12,380.6198333 So a lot of patients, a lot of people don't have access. 469 00:49:12,900.6198333 --> 00:49:16,800.6198333 Because they can't communicate with me, they can't get to me. 470 00:49:16,800.6198333 --> 00:49:22,150.6198333 So there are a lot of things where I call these shortages and I feel like my hands are tied. 471 00:49:22,420.6198333 --> 00:49:27,960.6198333 There's not, there was a time when I felt like I can make a difference as an individual. 472 00:49:28,510.6188333 --> 00:49:38,670.6198333 And as I've gotten older and I've been practicing for a quarter of a century, I realized that I can't necessarily do it all. 473 00:49:38,780.6188333 --> 00:49:48,290.6188333 How did those kind of issues as a chiropractor, and I'm sure you've had it play into what you're doing now? Absolutely. 474 00:49:48,330.6178333 --> 00:49:55,340.6188333 And, I just had this awareness yesterday in my life that I did on social media. 475 00:49:55,900.6178333 --> 00:50:05,995.6188333 If I could have offered cannabis with my adjustments when I had a practice, it would have taken my chiropractic practice to an entirely different level. 476 00:50:07,55.6188333 --> 00:50:14,275.6188333 The moment that I met plant medicine, I was doing my own healing, so I never merged the two with my patients. 477 00:50:15,230.6188333 --> 00:50:25,500.6188333 I was experiencing it myself because anytime I would get a massage, okay, microdose of psilocybin or a little bit of cannabis to drop deeper into my massage. 478 00:50:25,500.6188333 --> 00:50:33,920.6188333 And that's where a lot of my knowledge and wisdom and the unraveling of the book came about while I was getting a massage, the creativity, the fire hydrant was just opened. 479 00:50:33,920.6188333 --> 00:50:36,360.6188333 And okay, afterwards, let me, I need to go right. 480 00:50:36,760.6188333 --> 00:50:37,450.6188333 Babe, hold on. 481 00:50:37,450.6188333 --> 00:50:38,350.6188333 I need my computer. 482 00:50:38,620.6188333 --> 00:50:39,780.6188333 I need to write this chapter. 483 00:50:42,295.7188333 --> 00:50:45,435.6188333 I hear you and I feel you. 484 00:50:45,685.6188333 --> 00:50:48,665.6188333 That is why I left the U S 10 years ago. 485 00:50:48,975.6188333 --> 00:50:52,435.6188333 Longer than that, in terms of practicing, because. 486 00:50:53,465.6188333 --> 00:51:03,545.6188333 I practiced in Arizona and the sheer problems that I had with the board, who is supposed to be in favor of us as practitioners. 487 00:51:04,85.6188333 --> 00:51:10,35.6198333 I got in trouble because I didn't have DC after my name, even though I had doctor in front of it, it has to be in both places. 488 00:51:10,55.6188333 --> 00:51:12,385.6178333 You have to have doctor in front and DC after. 489 00:51:12,645.6188333 --> 00:51:16,435.6188333 If you only have your name in DC after you didn't put the doctor in front. 490 00:51:16,875.6188333 --> 00:51:19,225.6188333 And I'm like, this is so petty. 491 00:51:19,935.6188333 --> 00:51:20,865.6188333 What about. 492 00:51:21,135.6188333 --> 00:51:27,105.6188333 Truly being able to gift our patients with the best care that they need. 493 00:51:28,345.6188333 --> 00:51:32,665.6188333 Initially my solution, I thought practicing outside of the country will be a little bit better. 494 00:51:33,285.6178333 --> 00:51:41,905.6188333 And it was, but there were still things that, unfortunately, within the scope of a practice, That I just couldn't do. 495 00:51:42,355.6188333 --> 00:51:46,215.6188333 And today where I am at, I have not been in practice for five years. 496 00:51:46,635.6188333 --> 00:51:50,975.6188333 Do I desire to go back into a physical chiropractic practice? Not at all. 497 00:51:52,305.6188333 --> 00:51:56,595.6188333 I truly desire to, help humanity remember how to heal themselves. 498 00:51:56,885.6188333 --> 00:52:08,495.6188333 Because even as a chiropractor, no matter how much education, no matter how much I told my patients that I can't fix you, they had instant gratification, just like you shared, doc, I'm in pain again. 499 00:52:08,505.6188333 --> 00:52:09,155.6188333 Fix me. 500 00:52:09,265.6188333 --> 00:52:10,535.6178333 I can't fix you. 501 00:52:11,170.6188333 --> 00:52:25,110.6183333 I can align your spine and body and I can guide you in how to make lifestyle changes and how to sleep differently and how to, but if you don't make any of those changes, you're going to be right back in here. 502 00:52:25,110.6183333 --> 00:52:31,560.6188333 And if I can't guide you into those deeper root causes, you're going to be right back in here. 503 00:52:32,220.6188333 --> 00:52:35,180.6188333 So the way the system is set up. 504 00:52:36,415.6188333 --> 00:52:42,635.6188333 I literally feel like all practitioners have their hands tied behind their back and it's sad. 505 00:52:42,635.6188333 --> 00:52:46,735.6188333 And I'm not sure if you know this, but there's another plant medicine called combo. 506 00:52:47,365.6188333 --> 00:52:51,905.6178333 It's the Amazonian tree frog, a beautiful medicine that I serve. 507 00:52:52,840.6188333 --> 00:53:11,530.6188333 It's a purge, in ancient times it was served before ayahuasca, there are some tribes and some indigenous people who do serve it before ayahuasca, but we serve it, my husband and I, we serve it before bufo, because bufo is strongest psychedelic instantaneous connection with your higher self, with source. 508 00:53:12,225.6188333 --> 00:53:19,415.6188333 But if you don't purge out the blockages beforehand that connection with source may not necessarily be a beautiful journey. 509 00:53:19,415.6188333 --> 00:53:26,95.6188333 You're going to have to meet those inner demons, which are your self judgment and all the ways you abuse yourself and hate yourself. 510 00:53:26,895.6188333 --> 00:53:33,625.6188333 So for example, the system has now heard about combo 70 different patents. 511 00:53:34,155.6188333 --> 00:53:36,745.6188333 To create synthetic versions of combo. 512 00:53:37,505.6188333 --> 00:53:43,845.6188333 They're already creating synthetic versions of cannabis, synthetic versions of bufo, synthetic versions of psilocybin. 513 00:53:44,955.6188333 --> 00:53:47,385.6183333 So this unfortunately is the system. 514 00:53:47,385.6183333 --> 00:53:52,545.6188333 This has been the system for how many years and yes, it's changing. 515 00:53:53,425.6178333 --> 00:53:53,905.6178333 Yes. 516 00:53:53,925.6178333 --> 00:53:58,145.6178333 There's the legalization of these sacred medicines, but there's. 517 00:53:58,855.6188333 --> 00:54:01,245.6188333 They still have a grip on the control piece. 518 00:54:01,745.6188333 --> 00:54:06,145.6188333 They still have their hands in the synthetic versions to make money. 519 00:54:06,145.6188333 --> 00:54:08,705.6188333 It's all about greed, money, power, and control. 520 00:54:10,885.6188333 --> 00:54:18,765.6188333 So is it cheaper to make these synthetic medicines and distribute versus getting the natural form of it? I'm imagining it is. 521 00:54:20,225.6188333 --> 00:54:22,245.6188333 I'm sure it is because they could make it in bulk. 522 00:54:22,785.6188333 --> 00:54:23,255.6188333 Absolutely. 523 00:54:23,275.6188333 --> 00:54:26,425.6188333 That and they can control what else they put in it. 524 00:54:27,145.6188333 --> 00:54:27,705.6188333 True. 525 00:54:27,805.6188333 --> 00:54:28,565.6188333 I didn't, yeah. 526 00:54:29,565.6188333 --> 00:54:40,665.6178333 And if you look initially when I believe it was Nevada, when they initially legalized cannabis, all of the dispensaries, and I, again, I may be wrong. 527 00:54:40,665.6188333 --> 00:54:43,205.6178333 I'm not sure what state, but I'm pretty sure it was Nevada. 528 00:54:43,855.6178333 --> 00:55:09,90.6178333 All of the dispensaries had to send their cannabis to a federal Institution or warehouse to be checked before they could receive it back and the question arose in the cannabis community Okay, so what are they doing? And if I remember correctly, they were actually altering the THC and CBD content in the cannabis Lessening it so people need more. 529 00:55:11,220.6188333 --> 00:55:25,220.6188333 The other thing is cannabis in this way If we look at all the different dispensaries and all the different strains and she's literally being genetically modified now just to get a higher high. 530 00:55:26,530.6188333 --> 00:55:28,590.6178333 She doesn't need to be genetically modified. 531 00:55:28,590.6188333 --> 00:55:31,180.6188333 We just need to remember how to work with her higher self. 532 00:55:31,650.6178333 --> 00:55:40,480.6188333 And this is the problem that I see with the system having control over these sacred medicines and creating synthetic versions. 533 00:55:42,60.6188333 --> 00:55:43,380.6188333 They have control over it. 534 00:55:44,50.6188333 --> 00:55:45,710.6188333 There is no higher self. 535 00:55:45,740.6188333 --> 00:55:49,100.6188333 There is no consciousness to the synthetic version. 536 00:55:49,680.6188333 --> 00:55:52,450.6188333 So all they're going after is the effect in the body. 537 00:55:53,540.6188333 --> 00:56:00,990.6188333 The beautiful part of a lot of these sacred medicines is the interaction between our consciousness and the consciousness of the medicine. 538 00:56:01,770.6178333 --> 00:56:12,225.6188333 So taking the synthetic version without the consciousness, it'll create an effect in the body, but then what? So for example, cannabis is funny. 539 00:56:12,655.6188333 --> 00:56:15,355.6188333 She's got the witchy spirit going on with me. 540 00:56:16,295.6188333 --> 00:56:22,585.6188333 So I was in a ceremony one day and she was having this conversation with me about the synthetic medicines. 541 00:56:23,525.6188333 --> 00:56:33,375.6178333 And she asked me, she's dMT that is found in ayahuasca, that is found in Changa, a couple of these different flowers. 542 00:56:33,405.6178333 --> 00:56:33,705.6178333 Okay. 543 00:56:33,705.6178333 --> 00:56:34,205.6178333 Yes. 544 00:56:34,810.6178333 --> 00:56:54,680.6168333 Okay, so this DMT has a consciousness, a spirit, a soul, huh, and then there's the synthetic version of DMT, huh, and she's do you know why those who consume the synthetic version of DMT claim that they meet machine elves? And immediately her spirit started laughing, and then I get it. 545 00:56:55,160.6168333 --> 00:57:00,280.6168333 I'm like, oh my god, how come I never thought of that? That's brilliant, Cannabis. 546 00:57:00,690.6168333 --> 00:57:02,830.6168333 Machine elves. 547 00:57:02,830.7168333 --> 00:57:02,885.5168333 Cannabis. 548 00:57:03,485.6168333 --> 00:57:11,575.6168333 So real plant medicines that have a consciousness, a soul or a spirit will connect us to the elemental spirits of Mother Earth. 549 00:57:12,505.6168333 --> 00:57:19,255.6168333 The synthetic versions will introduce us to literally the synthetic spirits, the synthetic elementals. 550 00:57:19,765.6168333 --> 00:57:23,995.6168333 So machine elves, real DMT found in flowers. 551 00:57:24,15.6168333 --> 00:57:28,575.6163333 You may meet elves in your journey, synthetic version of DMT. 552 00:57:28,575.6163333 --> 00:57:31,385.6168333 You're going to meet the machine elves, the artificial elves. 553 00:57:32,75.6168333 --> 00:57:37,815.6168333 So this is where this split is occurring between that, which is natural and organic, and that. 554 00:57:38,75.6168333 --> 00:57:44,425.6168333 Which is conscious and that which is artificial, which we're seeing rising with the whole artificial intelligence movement. 555 00:57:45,425.6168333 --> 00:58:08,250.6158333 So how do people find you if they want to learn more about this journey and participate in this journey? How do your clients find you? Easy my name, so whether it's my website or any social media, which social media censors me, but My name is D on all social media platforms. 556 00:58:08,280.6158333 --> 00:58:09,180.6158333 It's Dr. 557 00:58:09,660.6158333 --> 00:58:13,710.6158333 Shelly, S-H-E-L-L-Y, Persad, P-E-R-S-A-D. 558 00:58:14,100.6158333 --> 00:58:17,160.6158333 My website is also dr shelly persad.com, 559 00:58:17,880.6158333 --> 00:58:21,215.6158333 and my book is on Amazon as Somato Phobia. 560 00:58:21,685.6158333 --> 00:58:25,555.6158333 The guided sacred cannabis journey to your higher self. 561 00:58:26,415.6158333 --> 00:58:29,675.6158333 And I also, as I mentioned, I offer free ceremonies. 562 00:58:29,675.6158333 --> 00:58:36,685.6158333 So anyone who is curious about meeting this work, there is no investment, just an investment of time, a little bit of cannabis. 563 00:58:37,125.6148333 --> 00:58:41,465.6148333 Join me in a free ceremonial book, reading all of this information is on my website. 564 00:58:42,5.6148333 --> 00:58:45,385.6158333 Every Saturday, I guide a womb CREA ceremony for women. 565 00:58:45,825.6158333 --> 00:58:54,255.6158333 And then once a month, as of right now, it might increase, but as of right now, the first Sunday of every month for men is a Hara Kriya ceremony with Karen cannabis. 566 00:58:56,125.6158333 --> 00:59:03,435.6148333 So I have to, it begs the question, why are you banned from social media? I like speaking truth. 567 00:59:05,245.6158333 --> 00:59:08,845.6158333 It began during COVID and it's only been. 568 00:59:10,95.6158333 --> 00:59:10,655.6158333 Getting worse. 569 00:59:10,665.6158333 --> 00:59:20,85.6158333 Just a few weeks ago on Instagram, I had to delete 12 different posts talking about cannabis because it's cannabis. 570 00:59:20,135.6158333 --> 00:59:34,565.6143333 They don't want me talking about cannabis, but I see other people who can talk about cannabis from a recreational standpoint, right? And they have, thousands of likes and followers, sacredly to liberate yourself from the system. 571 00:59:35,820.6143333 --> 00:59:38,670.6143333 And I'm censored and my, I have no engagement. 572 00:59:39,220.6143333 --> 00:59:40,920.6143333 They don't show my stuff to anybody. 573 00:59:41,40.6143333 --> 00:59:43,460.6143333 So it is what it is. 574 00:59:43,460.6143333 --> 00:59:44,460.6143333 I'm just used to it. 575 00:59:44,990.6143333 --> 00:59:46,150.6143333 I do understand. 576 00:59:46,150.6143333 --> 00:59:56,290.6143333 I, I have a YouTube channel, so it's always fascinating to me, which ones get all the hits, which podcasts that I produce get all the hits it is. 577 00:59:56,290.6143333 --> 00:59:58,600.6143333 I don't think it has anything to do with me. 578 00:59:58,600.6143333 --> 01:00:00,150.6143333 I think it's the subject matter. 579 01:00:00,650.6143333 --> 01:00:02,210.6143333 It'll be interesting to see how this one does. 580 01:00:02,710.6143333 --> 01:00:10,440.6143333 I literally, like one will get like 5, 000 hits, and then there'll be another one, which will barely get like 50. 581 01:00:10,910.6143333 --> 01:00:17,210.6133333 So I'm like, what is happening? The algorithm, who knows, but yeah. 582 01:00:18,660.6143333 --> 01:00:20,700.5143333 So we'll see, we will see. 583 01:00:21,200.5143333 --> 01:00:23,290.5143333 I do have a few free guides as well. 584 01:00:23,310.5143333 --> 01:00:28,870.5143333 I love giving away a lot of knowledge and wisdom because there's just so much. 585 01:00:28,870.5143333 --> 01:00:33,200.5143333 So I have a guide for women, how to heal womb symptoms with cannabis. 586 01:00:33,740.5143333 --> 01:00:34,240.5143333 It's free. 587 01:00:34,240.5143333 --> 01:00:35,60.5143333 It's on my website. 588 01:00:35,60.5143333 --> 01:00:40,600.5143333 And then for those who struggle with a cannabis addiction, I also offer a three day email course. 589 01:00:41,275.5143333 --> 01:00:51,765.5133333 of why you're addicted to cannabis, what is really the root cause of that addiction and how to begin healing your addiction to cannabis, actually with cannabis. 590 01:00:51,815.5143333 --> 01:00:55,785.5143333 And then final words of wisdom, everything you're looking for. 591 01:00:56,145.5143333 --> 01:00:57,245.5143333 It's within your body. 592 01:00:59,295.5143333 --> 01:01:02,55.5143333 Thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. 593 01:01:02,55.5143333 --> 01:01:05,805.5143333 It was really a pleasure talking with you and laughing with you. 594 01:01:06,175.5143333 --> 01:01:10,65.5143333 And yeah, it'll be fun when this podcast comes out to see what happens. 595 01:01:10,565.5143333 --> 01:01:11,685.5143333 It's been a pleasure. 596 01:01:11,715.5143333 --> 01:01:12,565.5138333 I've enjoyed it. 597 01:01:12,565.5138333 --> 01:01:22,315.4143333 And yeah, the laughs are again, there's so much that we could talk about regarding the system and this and that, and slowly. 598 01:01:22,970.4143333 --> 01:01:25,800.4143333 One by one, we are here making a change. 599 01:01:26,10.4143333 --> 01:01:31,430.4143333 So even though we may feel like our hands are tied, we are still making a change. 600 01:01:31,460.4143333 --> 01:01:32,390.4143333 And that's just it. 601 01:01:32,390.4143333 --> 01:01:33,400.4143333 We can never give up. 602 01:01:34,10.4143333 --> 01:01:34,610.4143333 Yes. 603 01:01:35,510.4143333 --> 01:01:37,910.4153333 Otherwise, that's defeat if we do give up. 604 01:01:37,910.4153333 --> 01:01:38,680.4153333 Absolutely. 605 01:01:38,690.4143333 --> 01:01:38,920.4143333 Yeah. 606 01:01:40,60.4153333 --> 01:01:41,320.4153333 Thank you again so much. 607 01:01:41,320.4153333 --> 01:01:43,340.4153333 It's really been a pleasure and an honor. 608 01:01:43,390.4153333 --> 01:01:43,920.4153333 Thank you. 609 01:01:44,120.4153333 --> 01:01:45,20.4153333 Thank you so much. 610 01:01:45,20.4153333 --> 01:01:46,510.4153333 It's been my pleasure and honor. 611 01:01:46,510.4153333 --> 01:01:50,610.4153333 And don't forget to like, share and review my podcast. 612 01:01:51,160.4153333 --> 01:01:54,950.4153333 Remember, it's always ladies first on Soma Says. 613 01:01:55,250.4153333 --> 01:01:58,910.4153333 Let's make a difference one conversation at a time.
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