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Hi, this is Dr.
Soma.
Just a disclaimer, this podcast is for informational purposes only and isn't intended as medical advice.
Always consult with your doctor before making any changes to your diet, exercise, or health regimen.
Let's go to the show.
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cannabis had basically said to me, Shelly, look, I know you're looking for Something external you haven't figured out what it is.
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Cannabis can open you up to that higher state of consciousness when her higher self is invoked.
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All of these sacred medicines, psilocybin, cannabis, ayahuasca, yagé, their sole purpose is to reveal us to us.
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So they are truly here.
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Mother Earth has left them here for us to imbibe them, to access our higher consciousness, a higher perspective, so we can see ourselves Cannabis was discussed in the Vedas as one of five sacred plants that can liberate us, that can guide us out of the Maya, which is illusion.
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Those are clips from today's podcast with Dr.
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Shelly Prasad, Dr.
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Shelly is a multifaceted healer, a chiropractor, a womb shaman, and sacred secretion guide.
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Her journey began by addressing nervous system interferences, but burnout sparked a deeper quest.
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Through cannabis, she discovered profound healing within her womb.
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leading her to author Somatophobia and develop transformative self healing practices like body mind synchronization.
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As a womb shaman, she empowers women to awaken their inner healer.
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alongside her husband she hosts somatic plant medicine ceremonies and retreats.
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Join us as we delve into her inspiring journey and insights.
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I just wanted to officially welcome you to my podcast your perspective is obviously very different, and wanted to learn more and obviously share with as many people as possible what you do to help people.
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And let's start with somatophobia.
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It's interesting because part of my name is in that.
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I know when I saw that, I was actually like, Soma, okay, yeah, there's a connection here.
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Now, where are you from India originally? My parents are from India and they emigrated here in the early 1970s.
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I was born and brought up here, but obviously they named me, Soma or Soma.
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Yes.
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Beautiful.
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I'll send you a couple excerpts from my book.
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So my husband's from Trinidad and Tobago and he grew up his parents are Indian, but second generation from India to Trinidad and Tobago.
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So I knew it's so funny.
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My chiropractor that I interned with in Massachusetts, when I introduced her to the work that I've given birth to, After closing my practices and now dedicating my time to my book and retreats and ceremonies, she's did you go to India? I'm like, no, Katina, all of the knowledge and wisdom was stored in my body.
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I healed myself and unlocked it from my body.
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So I went to India through my body to my past life.
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And she's you had to go to India.
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I'm like no.
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All past life memories.
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So yeah, I've spent many lives.
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In India being Indian.
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Even I'm not sure if you know this, but living here in Central America, in Honduras and in Columbia, there are Ganesh and Hanuman temples.
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Really? I did not know that.
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Really? Yes.
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On the side of one of the Andes mountains in Peru, there is a Shiva trident.
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That you can see 40 miles into the ocean.
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It's that big.
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Oh, indigenous people of South America have no recollection of how it got on the mountain or where it came from.
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Have they dated it? Do you know? No, there's a guy I love his YouTube videos.
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Praveen Mohan.
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I'm not sure if you've watched him.
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He goes around and he.
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He's like the Graham Hancock, the Indian version of Graham Hancock.
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He goes around to all the different Indian temples and sites, so he's done videos on it.
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I can't remember if he has carbon dated it or dated it at all, but it predates all of the Incan, Peruvian, indigenous civilizations.
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Okay.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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I will have to Google that.
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So I will send you.
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Yeah, I have, I think I have the link to the video because that one is one of my favorite ones.
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Okay.
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I'll send you the link to your email so you can check it out because it's just, it's so mind boggling.
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Yeah.
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And this is a whole nother conversation we can have with your roots being Indian.
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So you tell me.
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Tell me what, so my listeners can understand what First introduce yourself, right? And tell us about what you do and then explain what somatophobia is.
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You have a book on Amazon among other places, I'm sure.
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And what this means and how it manifests in people's lives.
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Thank you so much for having me on your podcast.
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I'm Dr.
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Sally.
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I go by the Cannabis Chiropractor and by the end of the podcast, you'll probably understand why.
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So as a chiropractor, I met burnout many times.
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And I thought it was because of playing the insurance game, playing into the system of So I left the U.
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S.
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I had a practice in Portugal.
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I had two practices in Mexico.
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And after four practices, I was still meeting burnout.
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And not because I couldn't keep up.
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My practice full of patients, but more importantly, because I knew there was more possible, I wasn't enjoying seeing my patients return with the same pain and symptoms.
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I knew that if I could just guide them to the root cause of their sciatica or their neck pain, that then the real healing that I knew was possible would occur.
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And.
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I also met that same burnout in my own healing journey.
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I was a seeker.
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I've always been a seeker of truth and the more that is possible, but I didn't find it externally.
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I tried numerous healing modalities, numerous chiropractic modalities, and The same triggers and traumas and wounds kept showing up.
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So I started seeing a pattern that, okay, I am here looking for real healing because whatever I'm doing is not working.
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And why is it not working? And that led me to giving birth to this book, Somatophobia.
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My journey began with plant medicine.
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And for anyone who is new to plant medicine or doesn't know what plant medicine is, it is these sacred plant medicines such as ayahuasca, psilocybin, cannabis, yahe, bufo, that alter us to a higher state of consciousness.
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So they literally give us a glimpse into our higher consciousness, yet The moment I met plant medicine, cannabis, and most people don't consider cannabis as a plant medicine, but Her higher self came to me and she literally said to me, Shelly, listen, I know that you have been looking external your entire life for this more that you know, as possible to truly help your patients.
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And this was one week after my very first experience with the strongest psychedelic on the planet called Bufo, complete death of the ego and rebirth, which is what.
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Gave rise to this new relationship with cannabis.
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So she literally introduced herself to me.
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Listen, I'm cannabis, the higher self of cannabis.
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And there is another way of consuming me.
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That's not recreational and that's not medicinal because both of those lead to a codependency.
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Recreational use of me leads to checking out, escapism, numbing, disassociation.
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Medicinal use of me still creates a dependency because what happens if you are consuming me to treat your pain or symptoms, what happens after you stop consuming me? The root cause of the pain or symptoms is still there, right? I'm like, okay, point taken.
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So she shared with me how to work with her only in sacred ceremony.
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So cannabis had basically said to me, Shelly, look, I know you're looking for Something external you haven't figured out what it is.
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Not just for you, but for your patients as well If you trust me, I will guide you to everything you're looking for But she asked me to only imbibe her, which is to consume consciously in sacred ceremony.
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She's here are the rules.
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Here are the nine divine pass codes to unlock my higher self from my safeguard.
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And if you only imbibe me in sacred ceremony, I will guide you to the everything that you're looking for.
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And that began my journey.
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Once a week, because at the time my husband had invited me to do meditation and I'm like, but the traditional form of meditation just doesn't work.
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I've tried it along with a bunch of other modalities and maybe a couple of hundred years ago or a thousand years ago when our ego was a lot less sick.
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Maybe that actually worked in terms of the working that I was looking for.
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So with cannabis, once a week, I was imbibing her sacredly.
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Breath work, meditation.
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And over about the course of a year, she started guiding me into unlocking this knowledge and wisdom that I always knew I had within me, but I didn't know how to access.
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That was the more that I was looking for.
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And that's when that saying that everything you're looking for is inside of you clicked into place.
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Oh, that's what that means.
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Now I found it.
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Because things started making sense.
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Oh, I couldn't guide my patients to the root cause of their sciatica because their ego is so afraid to drop into the body.
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Hence where the name of my book came from.
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Cannabis actually gifted it to me.
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She's what about somatophobia? Fear of the body, because the word somatic, somato, soma, it all refers to the body.
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Correct.
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Yes.
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Now, were these discoveries made within yourself or did you have someone guiding you? To learn yet.
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They were made within myself.
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I had no guidance.
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Okay.
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That was part of my frustration as well with the very first medicine ceremony that Literally this medicine called to me a patient introduced it to me.
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She's hey I met this medicine called Bufo and immediately I knew I'm like, whatever that is, I want that.
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I need that.
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Two weeks later, kids, you not, my husband came home from the real estate office and he's Oh, so and so from the real estate office introduced me to her husband.
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Who's a shaman and serves this medicine.
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Okay.
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We're getting a message two times in two weeks.
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It's time we pay attention and listen.
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And I was highly disappointed because being such a sacred medicine.
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There were no instructions.
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There was no, Shelly, you have to do a diet or a fast before meeting the sacred medicine.
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It was show up at the beach 7am on Saturday.
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I had no instructions after the ceremony what to expect.
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No instructions that if you consume cannabis, cannabis is going to reactivate your buffo experience.
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After a few shamans.
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Again, I was seeking guidance.
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This world was new to me, and I would ask them questions.
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Hey, so I just experienced this, and they had no guidance for me.
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And that is where every time I came back to my own daily practice, I wasn't imbibing cannabis every single day, once a week, but when I would check in with her once a week, she's Shelly, stop looking externally.
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You're not going to find what you're looking for.
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Trust you, trust me to guide you there.
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Everything you're looking for is in your body.
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So I literally had to guide myself because I didn't find the guidance externally.
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So help us walk through what a guided sacred cannabis journey looks like.
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So my listeners can imagine this while they're listening to this podcast.
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Absolutely.
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You'll begin by coming into a, whether it's a private ceremony or a group ceremony, I will guide you into creating your own safe and sacred space, blowing down your breath, closing your eyes, dropping in and cutting out any external distractions.
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On every exhale, letting go of any stress of the day, what's on your to do list.
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The time that you have allotted for this sacred cannabis ceremony is your time to be with you.
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So nothing else matters.
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And then once you have dropped into your safe and sacred space, then I guide you through a sacred cannabis imbibing ritual.
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So this is where I introduce you to the nine divine passcodes that unlock the higher self of cannabis.
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We begin by invoking her higher self.
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So her higher self, as spoken in the Vedas, literally they said there is an angel that lives in the leaves and the flowers of the cannabis plant.
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Who is that angel? That angel is the higher self of cannabis, the soul, the spirit of cannabis, just like ayahuasca, people will refer to her spirit as the grandmother.
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Cannabis spirit is like the mother, the divine mother.
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So she lives in the flower of the cannabis plant and without setting an intention, without invoking her.
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She will still show up and pull an intention out of your subconscious mind, which is usually rooted in fear because she wants you to heal.
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So invoking her higher self means you are now working with her higher self.
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So it doesn't matter the cost of the cannabis, the strain that you are consuming because you're working strictly with her higher self.
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Over a journey of a couple of years of working with her in sacred ceremony, your tolerance never increases.
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You only need one to three inhales to be in a deep shamanic journey.
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You don't need a lot of cannabis to reach a level of consciousness comparable to that of psilocybin or ayahuasca.
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Cannabis can open you up to that higher state of consciousness when her higher self is invoked.
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So we go through the invoking process, the asking of permission to imbibe her, the giving of permission to allow her to guide you.
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Into your body and into your mind to meet the pain of trauma stored in your body, to meet the story of trauma stored in your mind.
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And then there's a gratitude ritual, thanking mother earth for giving birth to the sacred medicine, thanking our divine parents for giving birth to the higher self of cannabis, as well as the higher self of you.
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And then there's an entire ritual of how to inhale her, how to meet her, how to visualize her.
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Her smoke flowing into whatever part of your body feels stuck, that when you get triggered, that wound that's stored there gets poked.
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So as you are inhaling cannabis, I guide you in movement.
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So you can drop into your body and start feeling, where do I have pain? Where do I have restrictions? Where do I have stuckness? Where are there suppressed emotions? And I guide you into your body so you can awaken your life force, which is, Being a chiropractor, the philosophy is the power that made the body heals the body.
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So as a chiropractor, I spend a lot of time adjusting my patient's spines, removing the interference in their nervous system for their life force energy to flow.
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The best way to describe what I do now in a guided ceremony is I guide you into your body to awaken your own life force.
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So you can then use your own life force to transmute.
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The interference, the stuck energies, the blockages, the suppressed emotions, the pain from past unhealed traumas.
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So the journey itself will look like a lot of movement and breath work and sounding and squeezing of the pelvic floor and tapping and pumping of the body.
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So there are seven different.
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As I've termed them, shock deactivators, which are different built in mechanisms that we came born with to awaken our body's life force.
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And our body's life force energy is located in our womb.
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For women, men also have a womb called Hara.
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So we have to descend into the deepest part of our body, our pelvis, which is our foundation to awaken our life force.
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And then it's a somatic meditation.
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So it's not a meditation where you just sit and try to quiet the thoughts and chant Om or chant a mantra.
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It's a movement meditation.
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It's a breathwork meditation.
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The goal of it is to bring the mind into the body.
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So the mind, Shiva, is now partnering with your life force, Shakti, masculine and feminine, coming together.
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The mind stays in the body to feel.
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I feel this pain in my right hip, for example.
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So my mind is going to visualize and direct my breath into that restriction in my right hip transmuting, those stuck energies using breath, using movement, using sound, all of these Shakti activators are rhythmic.
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Because all pain and symptoms are just stuck energy.
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How do we get those stuck energies moving? Rhythm.
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And then at the end of the ceremony, there's a beautiful closing out ritual, sometimes with a shamanic medicine called rapé, which is a shamanic snuff.
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It's powder form of pure mapacho mixed with other herbs or flowers, tree bark or ashes or charcoal.
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And it's a medicine that you self serve up your nostrils.
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to flow into your sinuses, to bring balance between your right brain, left brain, masculine, feminine, to ground you to mother earth, to energize you.
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But for me, it's an integration medicine.
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Cannabis is a feminine medicine, guides you into your body.
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The rapé at the end of the ceremony is a masculine medicine.
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So now it links the mind to the body.
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So everything you transmuted in your body, rapé will help you to connect.
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Locate the story, store it away in one of the filing cabinets in your subconscious or unconscious mind so you can connect the story to the pain.
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Okay, we healed that, we can toss out the story.
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Now, who am I without that story, without that pain, without that trauma? And how long does it take for these sacred journeys to happen? So I offer online group ceremonies for women once a week, every Saturday, and they're an hour and a half.
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To two hours, including the sharing circle at the end.
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So it's an hour and a half of the cannabis imbibing ritual.
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I use in this specific ceremony, we use resistance bands because the fascia of the body, which is like the saran wrap, like connective tissue, the sacred record keeper of every memory of the soul.
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It's also according to neuroscientists, it's the pathway of consciousness in the body.
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So all the unhealed traumas and stuckness in the fascia are blockages to our higher consciousness.
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So in this particular ceremony, for example, we'll put a band around our arms if we're working and opening up our heart, shedding all the armor of conditional love, and then we'll use the bands to stretch our fascia, and then we'll add in breath work or sounding, humming, all of the different shock deactivators.
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activate the parasympathetic nervous system to shift us out of that tight, light, free state into a parasympathetic, relaxed state, as well as accessing our higher consciousness.
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And give us some examples, Dr.
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Shelley, about what kind of things people seek you for.
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You mentioned sciatica, other physical conditions.
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Maybe it even helps with Mental health issues as well.
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Yeah.
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So literally, and I know this is vague, anything and everything from addictions to cannabis, even because an addiction to cannabis, for example, is nothing more than an addiction to any other vice.
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It is a void that we are seeking to fill with something external, and that void can only be filled with our higher self.
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So from addictions to cannabis, to depression, anxiety, any host of mental health, from stress, to can't quiet the monkey mind, to insomnia, can't sleep at night, to body image issues, to all the different childhood wounds, Abandonment, rejection, betrayal, unlovable, not feeling good enough to a lot of the programming and belief systems that we know are keeping us feeling like we're living in a straitjacket, the poverty consciousness programming, survival fears, lack, not enough money, not enough time, not a, not skinny enough, not successful enough.
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So all of these things that keep us distracted from our highest potential from our higher consciousness, they all are stored in the body and they all can physically manifest as then pain such as sciatica, neck pain, back pain.
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They can manifest as symptoms, imbalanced hormones, endometriosis, Any womb symptom, PCOS, I struggled with polycystic ovary syndrome for many years.
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Imbalanced hormones, cystic acne, I struggled with adrenal burnout, chronic fatigue.
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So literally anything that is physically manifesting in the mind or body, this practice can help you access the root cause of that.
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So you can heal it on your own.
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And that is truly amazing.
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The core essence of these ceremonies, you are your own healer.
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With this kind of practice, and in the states I think it differs from state to state.
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For example, I know in certain states, and off the top of my mind, I can't remember where, but Silo Siobhan there's, Certain practitioners who do it and in, for example, in New Jersey, I think only ketamine is being used, but not necessarily psilocybin, New York, I think it's only being used for research purposes.
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How does that journey, do you have any experience there? How does that differ? Because some patients are interested in those kind of journeys.
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I don't necessarily have all the information about that.
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Sometimes I help them if I can, in terms of, providing them guidance as to where to go, how does that journey with cannabis differ from all those other tools or medicinal forms that I just mentioned.
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Absolutely.
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And it's such a good question.
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And there is a few tangents here to discuss first.
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All of these sacred medicines, psilocybin, cannabis, ayahuasca, yagé, their sole purpose is to reveal us to us.
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So they are truly here.
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Mother Earth has left them here for us to imbibe them, to access our higher consciousness, a higher perspective, so we can see ourselves and go Oh, I behave this way because my mother abandoned me, but my mother abandoned me really to show me that, I abandon me, but just having that level of awareness from the mental state is not enough, at least in my journey and being a chiropractor and understanding how traumas are stored in the body and keep the nervous system stuck in fight flight freeze and having done a lot of subconscious reprogramming modalities, talk therapy, anything from that state.
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It's not enough because the trauma in the body is still there.
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So from my personal, and this is just my perspective, my point of view, I'm not here to offend anyone or to judge anyone, but putting on blindfolds and just journeying with the medicine from a mental state where the ego is so afraid to drop into the body, to really feel that trauma.
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People will get healing from it.
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The Lysiban works in the background to rewire our.
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Neural networks.
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But the thing is, if we go home and we go right back into those same coping mechanisms, defense systems, trauma reactions, guess what? We took two steps forward, four steps back.
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Because the integration is the most important.
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The medicine will show you, you then have to change you.
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And that's where when I entered the plant medicine world, I saw a lot of people returning to the medicine ceremonies, coming back for more.
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And cannabis reminded me, Shelly, you got burned out.
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People coming back, same pain and symptoms.
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They weren't getting real healing.
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Don't fall into that trap because what is missing here is being guided into the body.
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There was, and that's what I was looking for.
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I attended a few group ceremonies, laid down, received the medicine, but I didn't receive much because I didn't go into my body.
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And that is where I guided myself on my own in this journey, because I didn't see any other shaman or medicine person guiding people into their body, and it's because they don't know their body, and if they haven't gone there, how can they guide anyone else there? So there is that aspect to it.
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The other aspect, specifically regarding ketamine, my experience with ketamine is We're already as a humanity, we're already living disconnected from our spirit, disembodied from our body, and disassociating due to traumas, checking out, numbing, escaping.
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And with ketamine being an analgesic, it's literally a pain reliever in my own personal experience, that medicine and it's synthetic.
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So it's not a plant medicine from mother earth.
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It has no spirit.
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It actually leads to further disassociation, further numbing, further checking out and escapism while it does have its benefits for certain mental health concerns, whether it's PTSD, depression, or anxiety.
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It can be great, but I have personally witnessed a lot of people become addicted to ketamine because they are addicted to checking out calling it healing when is it really healing and that's just my personal opinion from what I've experienced and what I know about the medicine ketamine.
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I have met ketamine personally.
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I go into my body.
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I don't just lay down and check out.
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I forcefully no, we are not disassociating with this medicine.
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We are going to go into the body to feel because you got to feel it to heal it.
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What challenges do you face when trying to help someone who is, dealing with somatophobia what do you, try to do when you meet those challenges? The biggest challenge is a three letter word called ego.
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So once a month, I offer a free ceremonial book reading and it's a book reading, not a traditional book reading.
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My husband plays musical instruments.
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I sing the book because it's rhythmic and.
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Believe it or not, and it is a sacred cannabis ceremony.
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So people will meet cannabis in a sacred way.
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Believe it or not.
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It's not because it's free.
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The money excuse is gone.
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Time could be the only excuse people could use, but.
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A lot of people always tell me, Shelly, wow, the moment I said yes to joining that free book reading, my ego came online and tried to come up with every reason, justification, and excuse to not attend because the ego is deathly afraid of losing power and control over us.
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The moment we check into our body.
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And we heal some of those traumas that the ego has maintained control over to keep us safe.
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The whole purpose of the ego was to protect us to prevent pain.
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But the thing is, the ego has turned into a dictator.
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Our ego has become the master of us.
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So the ego will come up with fear, reasons, justifications, and excuses to not go to not join the free book reading because it's so afraid of You reclaiming your power over it.
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It losing power over you.
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And that is my biggest challenge as well as the war on drugs, the programming, all of the fears and the preconceived ideas and notions about cannabis, simply because a lot of her true ancient knowledge and wisdom.
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Dating all the way back thousands of years ago to the Vedas has been lost.
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It's been forgotten.
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It's been burnt.
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It's been destroyed.
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History has been rewritten.
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The war on drugs has literally demonized her, made her evil, made her a gateway drug, when she's none of that.
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She's a gateway to our higher consciousness.
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If imbibed in sacred ceremony, but you see they did something when they started legalizing all these plant medicines, they knew that humanity was in such a state of lower consciousness and trauma that.
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Go ahead, legalize these plant medicines.
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People aren't going to remember how to liberate and free themselves anyway, which these plant medicines can help us liberate ourselves.
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So now they're legalizing them because they know that a good portion of humanity will just use these medicines to check out even more, to become addicted to just like alcohol, just like gambling or porn or sex or social media, chasing the false highs.
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And that really is what Being a traumatized society.
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We are addicted to chasing false highs, anything to give us a brief vacation from the stress of our reality.
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You're absolutely right.
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You're absolutely right.
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I think our need for instant gratification really drives a lot of it.
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And whether that's related to our ego or not, maybe you know more than I do, so curious, while you were talking, you were saying that you use different, possibly doses of cannabis.
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Does that differ from person to person? How do you determine those doses? Obviously you're not doing it for recreational purposes.
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You're doing it for medicinal purposes to relieve pain, to relieve suffering.
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So how do you determine those doses? It's dependent on the person.
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So for example, someone who does not have a relationship at all with cannabis will not need much.
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So if it's a private ceremony or even a guided ceremony, I always encourage the person.
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Even in my group ceremonies, it's not a sit here and just keep Inhaling and puffing.
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We're going to inhale once let's go into practice because our body has an endocannabinoid system.
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So we just need a little bit to turn on and activate our body's endocannabinoid system.
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And that system sole purpose is to return us back to a state of balance.
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And this is where there is a downfall because consumed recreationally.
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Okay, you consume cannabis recreationally to check out because cannabis is a mirror.
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So if we live disembodied, cannabis is going to mirror that disembodiment to us.
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The endocannabinoid system is like the master checks and balances system.
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It's sole purpose is to restore balance in the nervous system between the sympathetic and parasympathetic state.
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To restore balance in the endocrine system among our hormones.
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Restore balance between our masculine and our feminine, our mind and body, our right brain, left brain.
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The sole purpose is to bring us back into a state of balance because we're living so out of balance.
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But the moment the recreational cannabis high wears off, guess what? The balance that the endocannabinoid system Restored also wears off because the root of imbalance is still there in the body and in the mind medicinal use if someone is consuming cannabis to treat their pain or symptoms.
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The moment the medicinal high wears off, so does the balance, because what happens if they were to stop consuming cannabis? The pain and symptoms are still there.
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That root cause of abandonment or betrayal or rejection is still there.
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So in sacred ceremony, imbibing cannabis to activate the endocannabinoid system, and then going into the body, opening the door to the mind, meeting those root causes, uprooting them.
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Now we are becoming literally not dependent on cannabis, but we are working alongside our own body's endocannabinoid system.
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So now when the ceremonial high wears off, we are in a further state of balance because we are one trauma less, or a couple traumas less, or a couple emotions lighter.
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The sole purpose of really working with cannabis in sacred ceremony is to move us back to that state of divine union, balance between our masculine feminine, mind body, right brain left brain, sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system.
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I call her the divine union plant.
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And how many sessions, I know that can also vary from person to person, but let's say someone is having chronic pain.
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We'll pick sciatica as an example.
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How many sessions have you usually seen that people are doing much better after going through this journey? It can be in as short as one session, It can be a couple over the course of a month.
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It can be a couple of months depending how intense or chronic their sciatica is and what else it's connected to.
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And a lot of people have this question of, okay and it was no different.
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My patients, they would always ask me, okay, so how many adjustments do I need before the pain goes away? And one of the things I always remind them is the pain and symptoms are the last to show up and the first to go away.
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Okay.
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So just because the pain is gone doesn't mean the root cause is totally gone.
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So one of the things, being a chiropractor, One of my own frustrations, and I knew I wanted to be a chiropractor since I was 13.
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My knees started giving out on me, dislocating, I couldn't walk good for six weeks.
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Orthopedic surgeons were like, okay we will break both of your heels and reset them and that'll fix your knees.
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And at 13, I was devastated.
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I'm like, no, I just found my new hobby, which is the gym, and I won't be able to walk for six months.
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There's gotta be another option.
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So my mother took me to a chiropractor and voila, everything made sense.
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If I bring my body back into alignment.
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Okay, I get it.
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But even when I was going through chiropractic college, I would always ask, I'm getting adjusted three times a week.
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I still have this right SI joint misalignment.
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So what am I missing here? Why is my body not holding its adjustment? Why do I need to keep going back and getting adjusted? And then practicing outside of the U S.
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I didn't have a lot of chiropractors around to adjust me, so I had to sever my dependency on needing someone external to adjust me.
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So this is where, also, with this practice with the resistance bands, which I call womb kriyas, it was my relentless pursuit.
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to get to the root cause of this right SI joint misalignment.
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And Soma, I cannot even begin to tell you the root causes that I have had to meet to unravel this stuckness, this pain, this restriction.
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It's been a couple of years of unraveling it.
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The pain, I don't live with the pain, but when I go into my daily practice without cannabis or my Weekly practice with cannabis.
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I will go deep into it and it has been everything from it's on my right side.
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So it's the masculine side of my body.
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It's been the father wound.
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It's been poverty consciousness.
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It's been survival fears.
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I was a breached baby.
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My mother had a C section to give birth to me.
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So in one of my journeys, I went back into the memory of being inside my mother's womb and seeing the distorted position I was in because I didn't have enough space.
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So that position.
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Caused my pelvis to be out of alignment.
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And then as I grew over the years, I had a little bit of scoliosis.
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So my spine grew with that misalignment.
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So that misalignment began from the time I was in my mother's womb.
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But just going and getting adjusted in a chiropractor's office.
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I could never get there with my ego intact.
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Logical thinking mind.
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What do you mean my, this pain in my right hip is because of how I was positioned in my mother's wound? What do you mean it's my father wound and it's my father losing money in a lawsuit and th My father's issue is stored in my right hip? So the root cause is Never what we think it is logically.
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And that was the missing link for me.
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I could never guide my patients to the root cause because they wanted to figure it out.
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Logically, the world we live in, everything is logical and linear.
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This realm of the feminine is a forgotten art.
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It's a forgotten language.
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And we have forgotten how to hear the messages that our body gives us.
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That is very true.
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I just came off of a podcast and we were talking about the very same thing where we don't Listen to our own bodies.
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One of the things I was also curious about while you were talking was as a practitioner and as a person I it sounds like you have used ketamine yourself I don't know if you've used it had it with, for your clients or patients versus ayahuasca versus psilocybin.
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Why cannabis? What is the difference for you? Not intermedicinally, right? But what was the difference between cannabis and the others that you prefer cannabis for Patients as well as for yourself for these journeys.
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Yeah.
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So one cannabis is readily available for most people and not getting into the legal issues, but even in states where cannabis is not legal, people can still access it.
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High schoolers today, and sadly no high schooler should be.
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introduced to cannabis, but high schoolers can easily access cannabis in a state where it's illegal.
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So on my journey with Bufo being the strongest psychedelic on the planet, cannabis is okay, all of these other stronger medicines give you glimpses into your higher consciousness.
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This, because cannabis is so readily available and accessible.
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This practice with cannabis paired with the endocannabinoid system, moving back into a state of balance.
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This is literally like the fast track to embodying our higher consciousness so that we don't have to go and take a stronger medicine to get a glimpse of it.
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Because I've worked with, I've had clients who've visited Peru a hundred times and sat with ayahuasca a hundred times.
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And then they arrived to me and, Hey, so what have you healed? What do you mean, what have I healed? I've had these visions or these experiences, but I haven't really healed anything.
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And that is where at the beginning of my journey, I saw that in these bigger group ayahuasca or psilocybin ceremonies, there's no one on one guidance.
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Cannabis has helped me to remember that in ancient times, There were rites of passages that we received before sitting with or drinking a sacred medicine.
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We weren't just, here's the medicine and expected to know how to navigate it from our ego traumatized state.
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So I'd work with a lot of people in integrating them with these stronger medicines.
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Let's say, Yahir Ayahuasca, where they're not guided into their body.
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They will meet fear.
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They will have scary dark visions, but the shaman isn't there offering them one on one guidance.
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So then cannabis becomes a beautiful integration medicine.
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So in my integration ceremonies, we will imbibe cannabis sacredly and then revisit ayahuasca, yahweh, whatever ceremony they experienced where they were not guided into their body.
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cannabis can reactivate any plant medicine.
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She can mimic.
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Any plant medicine.
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So for example, if you have sat with ayahuasca, but there was no guidance, you met fear, but the shaman didn't guide you through the fear.
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And a week later, let's say you work with me.
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I guide you over zoom in a cannabis ceremony.
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Okay.
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So share with me.
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What did you see? What did you feel? Close your eyes.
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Go back there.
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Revisit it.
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Cannabis will guide you there so that you don't miss out on that opportunity to feel and heal whatever you didn't feel and heal with ayahuasca, but with cannabis.
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So she works as a sister medicine.
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She's beautiful.
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She's gentle.
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She's not as intense.
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She's not as scary.
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She's not as Grab you by the hand and whisk you off to the cosmos without you being able to breathe and catch your breath.
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So she's a much gentler medicine, but she's just as powerful as the other medicines with the other medicines.
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Psilocybin is my next favorite medicine.
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I recommend Microdosing.
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I recommend pairing psilocybin with cannabis.
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And when you don't need a lot of psilocybin.
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A lot of people recommend the Hero's Journey 5 grams.
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You can consume half a gram of psilocybin, one or two inhales of cannabis, and you will go just as deep as a 5 gram psilocybin journey.
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Psilocybin has a lot of benefits, so I work with psilocybin a lot, but cannabis really wanted it.
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My book is dedicated to her.
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She literally was like.
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Will you help me restore the sacredness of cannabis? Give birth to this book here, give birth to these ceremonies.
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So me and her have a relationship that go back so many lifetimes.
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So a lot of this work was birthed from memories from past lives.
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And if we look at India, cannabis, even though it's illegal there, even though people can find cannabis in India and consume it not in spiritual practices, I remember listening to a podcast with Dr.
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Chopra, and he was visiting India and he asked his taxi driver, What are the guys on the side of the road smoking? And the taxi driver said, Ganja.
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Cannabis.
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And he's Can you get me some? And the taxi driver said, No, it's illegal.
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Only the rishis and the sadhus and the yogis and the holy men are allowed to consume cannabis for their spiritual practice.
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Cannabis gave birth to yoga.
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Cannabis was discussed in the Vedas as one of five sacred plants that can liberate us, that can guide us out of the Maya, which is illusion.
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It's all of our, it's that straight jacket that I talk about.
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And when we look at some of the other medicines, for example, ayahuasca, yahweh, DMT, and flower form, not synthetic DMT, because any synthetic medicine.
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doesn't have a soul, doesn't have a spirit.
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So I prefer working with medicines that have a soul or a spirit with these other stronger medicines.
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They're more taxing on our physical body.
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So for example, drinking yahweh 25 times a year is going to start taxing our liver.
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So if we're not taking care of our liver has to process a lot of these stronger chemical compounds in the ayahuasca or in the yahweh.
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So for example, and it's a beautiful story.
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I was just reminding my husband this morning, Remember our ayahuasca ceremony? we've consumed ayahuasca once.
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And we integrated that one ayahuasca ceremony for three years.
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So our shaman, who at the time we were apprenticing with, he offered us a private ayahuasca ceremony and the entire ceremony in between the purging, my husband was reading this massive book on mother earth, flipping the pages, writing on the dirt, and then he would purge and then he would come back and he would read some more and he'd write some more.
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And then he'd purge.
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And I'm over here, I'm singing and I'm purging and I'm moving my body and I'm purging.
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And it didn't hit us at the time of what we were doing.
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After our ayahuasca ceremony, our daily practice, once or twice a week our cannabis ceremony, this is where the book started coming in and we started writing it.
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So literally it was one ayahuasca ceremony, a lot of integration with cannabis, and that is what gave birth to somatophobia.
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So the process of going through a journey led to the book and it was an ayahuasca journey.
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It was ayahuasca.
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And once literally a few months before my book was finished, but it was being formatted and edited.
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Then we sat with Yahe three evenings in a row.
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And that was like, Okay, time to close this cycle and begin a new cycle, right? So as a chiropractor and I'm basically drawing an analogy as a doctor as an internist there are times when I feel that my Hands are tied behind my back, there's not much I can do.
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And that can be because of time limitations.
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I can't necessarily prescribe certain medications or availability at least in, in this part of the country, there are massive shortages of specifically primary care physicians like myself.
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So a lot of patients, a lot of people don't have access.
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Because they can't communicate with me, they can't get to me.
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So there are a lot of things where I call these shortages and I feel like my hands are tied.
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There's not, there was a time when I felt like I can make a difference as an individual.
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And as I've gotten older and I've been practicing for a quarter of a century, I realized that I can't necessarily do it all.
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How did those kind of issues as a chiropractor, and I'm sure you've had it play into what you're doing now? Absolutely.
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And, I just had this awareness yesterday in my life that I did on social media.
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If I could have offered cannabis with my adjustments when I had a practice, it would have taken my chiropractic practice to an entirely different level.
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The moment that I met plant medicine, I was doing my own healing, so I never merged the two with my patients.
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I was experiencing it myself because anytime I would get a massage, okay, microdose of psilocybin or a little bit of cannabis to drop deeper into my massage.
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And that's where a lot of my knowledge and wisdom and the unraveling of the book came about while I was getting a massage, the creativity, the fire hydrant was just opened.
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And okay, afterwards, let me, I need to go right.
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Babe, hold on.
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I need my computer.
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I need to write this chapter.
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I hear you and I feel you.
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That is why I left the U S 10 years ago.
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Longer than that, in terms of practicing, because.
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I practiced in Arizona and the sheer problems that I had with the board, who is supposed to be in favor of us as practitioners.
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I got in trouble because I didn't have DC after my name, even though I had doctor in front of it, it has to be in both places.
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You have to have doctor in front and DC after.
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If you only have your name in DC after you didn't put the doctor in front.
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And I'm like, this is so petty.
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What about.
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Truly being able to gift our patients with the best care that they need.
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Initially my solution, I thought practicing outside of the country will be a little bit better.
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And it was, but there were still things that, unfortunately, within the scope of a practice, That I just couldn't do.
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And today where I am at, I have not been in practice for five years.
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Do I desire to go back into a physical chiropractic practice? Not at all.
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I truly desire to, help humanity remember how to heal themselves.
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00:51:56,885.6188333 --> 00:52:08,495.6188333
Because even as a chiropractor, no matter how much education, no matter how much I told my patients that I can't fix you, they had instant gratification, just like you shared, doc, I'm in pain again.
499
00:52:08,505.6188333 --> 00:52:09,155.6188333
Fix me.
500
00:52:09,265.6188333 --> 00:52:10,535.6178333
I can't fix you.
501
00:52:11,170.6188333 --> 00:52:25,110.6183333
I can align your spine and body and I can guide you in how to make lifestyle changes and how to sleep differently and how to, but if you don't make any of those changes, you're going to be right back in here.
502
00:52:25,110.6183333 --> 00:52:31,560.6188333
And if I can't guide you into those deeper root causes, you're going to be right back in here.
503
00:52:32,220.6188333 --> 00:52:35,180.6188333
So the way the system is set up.
504
00:52:36,415.6188333 --> 00:52:42,635.6188333
I literally feel like all practitioners have their hands tied behind their back and it's sad.
505
00:52:42,635.6188333 --> 00:52:46,735.6188333
And I'm not sure if you know this, but there's another plant medicine called combo.
506
00:52:47,365.6188333 --> 00:52:51,905.6178333
It's the Amazonian tree frog, a beautiful medicine that I serve.
507
00:52:52,840.6188333 --> 00:53:11,530.6188333
It's a purge, in ancient times it was served before ayahuasca, there are some tribes and some indigenous people who do serve it before ayahuasca, but we serve it, my husband and I, we serve it before bufo, because bufo is strongest psychedelic instantaneous connection with your higher self, with source.
508
00:53:12,225.6188333 --> 00:53:19,415.6188333
But if you don't purge out the blockages beforehand that connection with source may not necessarily be a beautiful journey.
509
00:53:19,415.6188333 --> 00:53:26,95.6188333
You're going to have to meet those inner demons, which are your self judgment and all the ways you abuse yourself and hate yourself.
510
00:53:26,895.6188333 --> 00:53:33,625.6188333
So for example, the system has now heard about combo 70 different patents.
511
00:53:34,155.6188333 --> 00:53:36,745.6188333
To create synthetic versions of combo.
512
00:53:37,505.6188333 --> 00:53:43,845.6188333
They're already creating synthetic versions of cannabis, synthetic versions of bufo, synthetic versions of psilocybin.
513
00:53:44,955.6188333 --> 00:53:47,385.6183333
So this unfortunately is the system.
514
00:53:47,385.6183333 --> 00:53:52,545.6188333
This has been the system for how many years and yes, it's changing.
515
00:53:53,425.6178333 --> 00:53:53,905.6178333
Yes.
516
00:53:53,925.6178333 --> 00:53:58,145.6178333
There's the legalization of these sacred medicines, but there's.
517
00:53:58,855.6188333 --> 00:54:01,245.6188333
They still have a grip on the control piece.
518
00:54:01,745.6188333 --> 00:54:06,145.6188333
They still have their hands in the synthetic versions to make money.
519
00:54:06,145.6188333 --> 00:54:08,705.6188333
It's all about greed, money, power, and control.
520
00:54:10,885.6188333 --> 00:54:18,765.6188333
So is it cheaper to make these synthetic medicines and distribute versus getting the natural form of it? I'm imagining it is.
521
00:54:20,225.6188333 --> 00:54:22,245.6188333
I'm sure it is because they could make it in bulk.
522
00:54:22,785.6188333 --> 00:54:23,255.6188333
Absolutely.
523
00:54:23,275.6188333 --> 00:54:26,425.6188333
That and they can control what else they put in it.
524
00:54:27,145.6188333 --> 00:54:27,705.6188333
True.
525
00:54:27,805.6188333 --> 00:54:28,565.6188333
I didn't, yeah.
526
00:54:29,565.6188333 --> 00:54:40,665.6178333
And if you look initially when I believe it was Nevada, when they initially legalized cannabis, all of the dispensaries, and I, again, I may be wrong.
527
00:54:40,665.6188333 --> 00:54:43,205.6178333
I'm not sure what state, but I'm pretty sure it was Nevada.
528
00:54:43,855.6178333 --> 00:55:09,90.6178333
All of the dispensaries had to send their cannabis to a federal Institution or warehouse to be checked before they could receive it back and the question arose in the cannabis community Okay, so what are they doing? And if I remember correctly, they were actually altering the THC and CBD content in the cannabis Lessening it so people need more.
529
00:55:11,220.6188333 --> 00:55:25,220.6188333
The other thing is cannabis in this way If we look at all the different dispensaries and all the different strains and she's literally being genetically modified now just to get a higher high.
530
00:55:26,530.6188333 --> 00:55:28,590.6178333
She doesn't need to be genetically modified.
531
00:55:28,590.6188333 --> 00:55:31,180.6188333
We just need to remember how to work with her higher self.
532
00:55:31,650.6178333 --> 00:55:40,480.6188333
And this is the problem that I see with the system having control over these sacred medicines and creating synthetic versions.
533
00:55:42,60.6188333 --> 00:55:43,380.6188333
They have control over it.
534
00:55:44,50.6188333 --> 00:55:45,710.6188333
There is no higher self.
535
00:55:45,740.6188333 --> 00:55:49,100.6188333
There is no consciousness to the synthetic version.
536
00:55:49,680.6188333 --> 00:55:52,450.6188333
So all they're going after is the effect in the body.
537
00:55:53,540.6188333 --> 00:56:00,990.6188333
The beautiful part of a lot of these sacred medicines is the interaction between our consciousness and the consciousness of the medicine.
538
00:56:01,770.6178333 --> 00:56:12,225.6188333
So taking the synthetic version without the consciousness, it'll create an effect in the body, but then what? So for example, cannabis is funny.
539
00:56:12,655.6188333 --> 00:56:15,355.6188333
She's got the witchy spirit going on with me.
540
00:56:16,295.6188333 --> 00:56:22,585.6188333
So I was in a ceremony one day and she was having this conversation with me about the synthetic medicines.
541
00:56:23,525.6188333 --> 00:56:33,375.6178333
And she asked me, she's dMT that is found in ayahuasca, that is found in Changa, a couple of these different flowers.
542
00:56:33,405.6178333 --> 00:56:33,705.6178333
Okay.
543
00:56:33,705.6178333 --> 00:56:34,205.6178333
Yes.
544
00:56:34,810.6178333 --> 00:56:54,680.6168333
Okay, so this DMT has a consciousness, a spirit, a soul, huh, and then there's the synthetic version of DMT, huh, and she's do you know why those who consume the synthetic version of DMT claim that they meet machine elves? And immediately her spirit started laughing, and then I get it.
545
00:56:55,160.6168333 --> 00:57:00,280.6168333
I'm like, oh my god, how come I never thought of that? That's brilliant, Cannabis.
546
00:57:00,690.6168333 --> 00:57:02,830.6168333
Machine elves.
547
00:57:02,830.7168333 --> 00:57:02,885.5168333
Cannabis.
548
00:57:03,485.6168333 --> 00:57:11,575.6168333
So real plant medicines that have a consciousness, a soul or a spirit will connect us to the elemental spirits of Mother Earth.
549
00:57:12,505.6168333 --> 00:57:19,255.6168333
The synthetic versions will introduce us to literally the synthetic spirits, the synthetic elementals.
550
00:57:19,765.6168333 --> 00:57:23,995.6168333
So machine elves, real DMT found in flowers.
551
00:57:24,15.6168333 --> 00:57:28,575.6163333
You may meet elves in your journey, synthetic version of DMT.
552
00:57:28,575.6163333 --> 00:57:31,385.6168333
You're going to meet the machine elves, the artificial elves.
553
00:57:32,75.6168333 --> 00:57:37,815.6168333
So this is where this split is occurring between that, which is natural and organic, and that.
554
00:57:38,75.6168333 --> 00:57:44,425.6168333
Which is conscious and that which is artificial, which we're seeing rising with the whole artificial intelligence movement.
555
00:57:45,425.6168333 --> 00:58:08,250.6158333
So how do people find you if they want to learn more about this journey and participate in this journey? How do your clients find you? Easy my name, so whether it's my website or any social media, which social media censors me, but My name is D on all social media platforms.
556
00:58:08,280.6158333 --> 00:58:09,180.6158333
It's Dr.
557
00:58:09,660.6158333 --> 00:58:13,710.6158333
Shelly, S-H-E-L-L-Y, Persad, P-E-R-S-A-D.
558
00:58:14,100.6158333 --> 00:58:17,160.6158333
My website is also dr shelly persad.com,
559
00:58:17,880.6158333 --> 00:58:21,215.6158333
and my book is on Amazon as Somato Phobia.
560
00:58:21,685.6158333 --> 00:58:25,555.6158333
The guided sacred cannabis journey to your higher self.
561
00:58:26,415.6158333 --> 00:58:29,675.6158333
And I also, as I mentioned, I offer free ceremonies.
562
00:58:29,675.6158333 --> 00:58:36,685.6158333
So anyone who is curious about meeting this work, there is no investment, just an investment of time, a little bit of cannabis.
563
00:58:37,125.6148333 --> 00:58:41,465.6148333
Join me in a free ceremonial book, reading all of this information is on my website.
564
00:58:42,5.6148333 --> 00:58:45,385.6158333
Every Saturday, I guide a womb CREA ceremony for women.
565
00:58:45,825.6158333 --> 00:58:54,255.6158333
And then once a month, as of right now, it might increase, but as of right now, the first Sunday of every month for men is a Hara Kriya ceremony with Karen cannabis.
566
00:58:56,125.6158333 --> 00:59:03,435.6148333
So I have to, it begs the question, why are you banned from social media? I like speaking truth.
567
00:59:05,245.6158333 --> 00:59:08,845.6158333
It began during COVID and it's only been.
568
00:59:10,95.6158333 --> 00:59:10,655.6158333
Getting worse.
569
00:59:10,665.6158333 --> 00:59:20,85.6158333
Just a few weeks ago on Instagram, I had to delete 12 different posts talking about cannabis because it's cannabis.
570
00:59:20,135.6158333 --> 00:59:34,565.6143333
They don't want me talking about cannabis, but I see other people who can talk about cannabis from a recreational standpoint, right? And they have, thousands of likes and followers, sacredly to liberate yourself from the system.
571
00:59:35,820.6143333 --> 00:59:38,670.6143333
And I'm censored and my, I have no engagement.
572
00:59:39,220.6143333 --> 00:59:40,920.6143333
They don't show my stuff to anybody.
573
00:59:41,40.6143333 --> 00:59:43,460.6143333
So it is what it is.
574
00:59:43,460.6143333 --> 00:59:44,460.6143333
I'm just used to it.
575
00:59:44,990.6143333 --> 00:59:46,150.6143333
I do understand.
576
00:59:46,150.6143333 --> 00:59:56,290.6143333
I, I have a YouTube channel, so it's always fascinating to me, which ones get all the hits, which podcasts that I produce get all the hits it is.
577
00:59:56,290.6143333 --> 00:59:58,600.6143333
I don't think it has anything to do with me.
578
00:59:58,600.6143333 --> 01:00:00,150.6143333
I think it's the subject matter.
579
01:00:00,650.6143333 --> 01:00:02,210.6143333
It'll be interesting to see how this one does.
580
01:00:02,710.6143333 --> 01:00:10,440.6143333
I literally, like one will get like 5, 000 hits, and then there'll be another one, which will barely get like 50.
581
01:00:10,910.6143333 --> 01:00:17,210.6133333
So I'm like, what is happening? The algorithm, who knows, but yeah.
582
01:00:18,660.6143333 --> 01:00:20,700.5143333
So we'll see, we will see.
583
01:00:21,200.5143333 --> 01:00:23,290.5143333
I do have a few free guides as well.
584
01:00:23,310.5143333 --> 01:00:28,870.5143333
I love giving away a lot of knowledge and wisdom because there's just so much.
585
01:00:28,870.5143333 --> 01:00:33,200.5143333
So I have a guide for women, how to heal womb symptoms with cannabis.
586
01:00:33,740.5143333 --> 01:00:34,240.5143333
It's free.
587
01:00:34,240.5143333 --> 01:00:35,60.5143333
It's on my website.
588
01:00:35,60.5143333 --> 01:00:40,600.5143333
And then for those who struggle with a cannabis addiction, I also offer a three day email course.
589
01:00:41,275.5143333 --> 01:00:51,765.5133333
of why you're addicted to cannabis, what is really the root cause of that addiction and how to begin healing your addiction to cannabis, actually with cannabis.
590
01:00:51,815.5143333 --> 01:00:55,785.5143333
And then final words of wisdom, everything you're looking for.
591
01:00:56,145.5143333 --> 01:00:57,245.5143333
It's within your body.
592
01:00:59,295.5143333 --> 01:01:02,55.5143333
Thank you so much for joining me this afternoon.
593
01:01:02,55.5143333 --> 01:01:05,805.5143333
It was really a pleasure talking with you and laughing with you.
594
01:01:06,175.5143333 --> 01:01:10,65.5143333
And yeah, it'll be fun when this podcast comes out to see what happens.
595
01:01:10,565.5143333 --> 01:01:11,685.5143333
It's been a pleasure.
596
01:01:11,715.5143333 --> 01:01:12,565.5138333
I've enjoyed it.
597
01:01:12,565.5138333 --> 01:01:22,315.4143333
And yeah, the laughs are again, there's so much that we could talk about regarding the system and this and that, and slowly.
598
01:01:22,970.4143333 --> 01:01:25,800.4143333
One by one, we are here making a change.
599
01:01:26,10.4143333 --> 01:01:31,430.4143333
So even though we may feel like our hands are tied, we are still making a change.
600
01:01:31,460.4143333 --> 01:01:32,390.4143333
And that's just it.
601
01:01:32,390.4143333 --> 01:01:33,400.4143333
We can never give up.
602
01:01:34,10.4143333 --> 01:01:34,610.4143333
Yes.
603
01:01:35,510.4143333 --> 01:01:37,910.4153333
Otherwise, that's defeat if we do give up.
604
01:01:37,910.4153333 --> 01:01:38,680.4153333
Absolutely.
605
01:01:38,690.4143333 --> 01:01:38,920.4143333
Yeah.
606
01:01:40,60.4153333 --> 01:01:41,320.4153333
Thank you again so much.
607
01:01:41,320.4153333 --> 01:01:43,340.4153333
It's really been a pleasure and an honor.
608
01:01:43,390.4153333 --> 01:01:43,920.4153333
Thank you.
609
01:01:44,120.4153333 --> 01:01:45,20.4153333
Thank you so much.
610
01:01:45,20.4153333 --> 01:01:46,510.4153333
It's been my pleasure and honor.
611
01:01:46,510.4153333 --> 01:01:50,610.4153333
And don't forget to like, share and review my podcast.
612
01:01:51,160.4153333 --> 01:01:54,950.4153333
Remember, it's always ladies first on Soma Says.
613
01:01:55,250.4153333 --> 01:01:58,910.4153333
Let's make a difference one conversation at a time.