January 6, 2025 • 37 mins
It's the new year, and this is episode 11 of The Actor's Guide to the End of the World!
Some key AI bills in California start this week, and E-Kan and Rían will get into what you need to know about digital replicas and how this bill will protect actors. Also the Golden Globes are this week- this episode was taped before the Golden Globes happened so it will just be a preview of the show and any notable stories will be in the next episode.
You’ll hear E-Kan’s hard take on New Year's resolutions and New Year's in general and how they celebrated, or in E-Kan’s case, not celebrate. Is it the most overrated holiday ever? What is Dublin really like for New Year's? Is E-Kan actually Larry David? They will get to the bottom of this, as well as break down what works for them when it comes to building habits and why resolutions haven't worked for them in the past. Do they work for you? You might start reframing resolutions like they do and come up with a few of your own. They also drop a few gems on the trap of vision boards and the keys to a daily routine.
They also dish on some of their guilty reality show pleasures and some of the most surprising shows that came out of the writers’ strikes.
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(00:00) Intro
(02:00) AI Bill for Digital Replicas start this week
(04:45) Nikki Glaser hosts Golden Globes this week
(05:50) Reality show guilty pleasures
(07:45) Crazy reality shows that happened during Writers' Strike
(09:20) Is New Year's the worst holiday ever?
(14:00) How Dublin parties on New Year's
(17:25) The problem with New Year's resolutions
(21:50) The trap of vision boards
(25:30) Atomic Habits and morning routines
(30:00) E-Kan finds a resolution
(32:00) Rían's resolution
(35:30) Hidden Gems
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(00:00):
Hey guys, this is the
Actors Guide to the
End of the
World podcast.
My name's E-Kan Soong
We talk about acting
in Hollywood in a way
people understand.
My name's
Rían Sheeh Kelly.
What's up, buddy?
How are you, man?
Uh, doing all right.
Happy new year.
Happy new year.
And follow us wherever
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(00:20):
social media at Actors
Guide podcast.
Also, this is the
first episode
for us of 2025.
This is, we made it to
another year, guys.
That's two years this
podcast has
existed in.
Wait, two years
or two months?
Two years,
technically.
But don't mind
the two months.
So on the show for
today, the California
AI Bills, a handful of
(00:41):
them that we talked
about in a previous
episode
start this week.
So we're going to get
into a few of those.
Also, the Golden
Globes are here.
They happen
this Sunday.
We are actually
recording before the
Golden Globes.
Glazer's hosting.
So we're going to talk
about that.
We're going
into the holidays.
It's the new year.
We're going to talk
about new year's
resolutions.
Do we like new years?
Do we think it's
(01:01):
incredibly overrated?
Strong opinions here.
And that as a nice,
let me tell you.
Resolutions.
Are they shite or not?
Don't let me in there
with you, Larry David.
I'm okay with.
Maybe we have a few
resolutions of our own
that we're gonna share
and if you're not into
resolutions
Maybe we can talk
about reframing it and
(01:21):
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California 2602
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(02:04):
contract terms and
it'll stop the
unregulated
production use and
Distribution of
digital replicas of
their likeness this
bill is covering any
actor who's
working a job in
California for those
who are not aware
digital replicas are
basically if you if an
actor works a job
they and they give
(02:24):
consent to being
scanned using AI if
you're
shooting a scene and
You're you're doing
the script as written
They could use the
digital replica to
recreate a version of
that scene. That's
fairly close to
The scene that's
written now
This is where the
contract comes into
play because it would
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need to be fairly
similar to the scene
Otherwise they would
need your consent and
they would need to
inform you
Specifically of how
they're going to
change it. So it's
giving a lot more
rights and a lot more
Protection to the
actors. So this is
supplementary to the
to the sag
Exactly regulations,
but this is going to
(03:05):
cover all actors in
California
So it's a big deal.
It's it's covering
non-union actors as
well. Some might ask
well, why is this
only, California?
Exactly, and that's
exactly what we need
to be asking our local
and state governments.
Why is this only,
California?
Atlanta yeah,
Atlanta's not big on
(03:25):
Unions exactly now if
we're going to have
all these regions
bustling with
Hollywood productions
Well, we're going to
have to ask ourselves.
Are they going to
eventually protect
their
actors? Yeah. Yeah
I know we talked about
AI a lot, but it does
seem to be a very
Probably the most
existential threat I
think to this industry
at the moment, right?
(03:45):
You know and and
something to think
about with contracts
and I feel this way
about any contract
These contracts are
meant for
when it goes bad
It's not meant for
when the the marriage
is all rosy
and peachy keen
It's actually trying
to protect what might
happen later on down
the road. It's not for
a rosy marriage
It's for a possible
(04:07):
divorce in five years
now. I know that's
negative and skeptical
I don't think that's
negative. It's it's
it's there to
protect people
It's it's worst-case
scenario stuff and you
just don't want people
to be taken advantage
of so this bill takes
effect this week
We're going to
keep an eye on it
If you have any
stories of knowing an
actor who's gotten
scanned already or or
(04:27):
or anything like that,
please email us
actors guide podcast
at gmail.com we want
to hear all these
stories because that's
that's a way for
Our fellow actors to
stay informed
so also
the
Golden Globes
are this Sunday?
This is recorded
before the Golden
(04:47):
Globes. We'll talk
about it the next
episode and
Nikki Glaser is
hosting. It's actually
the first woman host
To host the show by
herself. I mean, she's
obviously one of the
hottest comedians of
the last year
So I'm really
interested to see that
also people remember
Golden Globes was the
show that Ricky
Gervais did a run for
(05:08):
a while and that was a
very particular
thing that was
Polarizing, but it was
kind of it was kind of
great to watch. I mean
he was
freaking hilarious
You know, I mean very
entertaining. Yeah, he
did it. Yeah times. I
think I I hinted that
we might be
live-streaming. Um
That is absolutely not
gonna happen. I'll
tell you that I will I
will be paying
(05:29):
attention to the I'm
in New York right now
That show is probably
gonna end at midnight
on the East Coast
Not I'm not gonna be
live-streaming it.
Uh-uh, and then Rean
is let's see that will
probably be ending at
5 a.m. For him. I
Actually will probably
if you want
live-stream it but
it'll just be me
snoring like
My friend in that
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college used to go
home when he was like
after a night out when
he was drunk
He would go home and
at the time Big
Brother was new and
that was on and he
would go home and
watch them sleep
To help him sleep
So he would go and
watch them in the Big
Brother house asleep
and then that would
help him fall asleep
So we could do
something like that if
people can't
sleep Wow. I
Didn't realize that
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Big Brother actually
showed a lot of
footage of them
sleeping. I think
there was a
24-hour feed
I didn't watch it, but
there was a
24-hour feed
I believe he could
watch it at all times.
It was bonkers
That's kind of really
ever watch Big
Brother, right?
No, I didn't but I
know of it
I I knew of it at the
time it was
huge news here
Everybody was talking
about it and it was
controversial and
(06:30):
people get kicked out
of the house
Hey, I mean they were
they were ahead of the
they were
ahead of the time
Do you watch reality
TV anything reality
that you watch? I mean
I did watch way back
in the day
real world
Survivor when it was
new. Yes, I am I think
the only reason and
here's the thing
because I
know reality TV
(06:53):
Because I know at
times, I don't watch
it, I don't
seek it out.
But at times I would
have watched, like I
used to watch
Deadliest Catch
and I watched it with
an
ex-girlfriend of mine.
The two of us were
really into it.
So we would find
reality
shows to watch.
We would get very
invested and kind of
make fun of them.
And I do understand
why they're, you know,
they're cheaper to
make and they draw
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people in and they
have and they, you
know, they push these
storylines.
And
so I, you know, I do
get it to some extent.
And I think the first
reality TV show was
Cops, right, to come
out of that.
That was came out of
the writer's strike in
1988, I think.
That was one of the...
Wait, what?
Yeah.
No.
(07:34):
So Fox, Fox during the
writer's strike, I
think in 1988, it
could be wrong in that
it was in and around
towards the...
I see. Yeah,
you're going.
It's just it's just
interesting,
the timing.
You're
completely right.
The 1988 writer
strike, obviously that
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was, you know, I
wasn't out
here in L.A.
You know, it wasn't on
my it wasn't on my on
my radar, but you're
completely right.
It just it's
coincidental because
the next
writer strike,
what was birthed out
of that strike is The
Apprentice
with Donald Trump.
(08:15):
Really? So yeah.
So it's just like to
see the seeds.
Now you bring up a
great point.
I was just hearing
people discuss it over
the course
of the strike.
Even reality TV
production was was
down over the strike.
That's just a
testament to where the
strength of the
industry is right now.
But they're they're
not producing as much
(08:35):
reality TV compared to
years before as well.
So everything's just
tightening up
a teeny bit.
Yeah. Did you ever go
to you ever go to
sitcom tapings?
A couple of times.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
I need to I
need to try that.
I want to do that. So
there's a website
called One Iota in
case people
(08:55):
don't know her. If
you're in LA you can
sign up. I think it's
free, right? The
tickets are free.
That's a great idea.
Great
education for actors.
Best job in show
business, they say, on
a multi-camp sitcom.
The work
days are short.
Regular schedule.
Exactly. All right, so
that's word around
town. So it's the
beginning of
the new year.
I'm really curious, we
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haven't really
discussed this, but
I'm curious your take
on new years
and resolutions. I
have strong
feelings about it.
Okay.
But needless to say, I
was in bed, I was
literally in bed at
9.30pm, happy as a
clam, and had
(09:37):
the most glorious
sleep of my life. And
that's how I prefer to
spend new
years, at least
currently.
Did you ever like new
years? Were you ever a
big new years guy?
Probably not. I think
new years is by far
one of the worst, most
overrated holidays
(09:57):
in general.
Okay.
I'm not exaggerating.
I think it's literally
one of the worst
holidays. Now here's
the thing,
obviously, we need to
start off the year
strong and blah, blah,
blah. It's so
overdone with
expectations. Say for
example, I'm in a city
like LA, most people
are trying to figure
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out what the best
party is, you're
trying to get into
some night that's
expensive, it's
overdone, you're with
a bunch of people that
you probably have no
interest in
hanging out.
Just to hype up this
need for an experience
or an event to end the
year, the experience
is probably
(10:37):
underwhelming, so
you're actually
drinking more to try
to make it more fun.
The dinners and the
restaurants are
usually this price
fixed menu that are
overpriced
for what you get.
Yeah, and then the
next day you're
hungover and you just
have a huge
bar tab. And then
we'll get into what I
think about
resolutions. But that
right off the
bat is it's a recipe
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for disaster, the type
of expectations that
go into... And
obviously,
there are some people
who have tasteful
evenings with their
loved ones or
friends that they
love and that would be
a great scenario. I'm
totally down with
that. But
in general, I
feel like the evening
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and the plans are
usually disappointing
and
underwhelming. I'd rather
get a great night of
sleep. So my point is,
I don't even wait to
see the ball drop. I
absolutely don't. So
that's how I feel.
Okay, I like that. I
like your Larry David
S. Grant on that. I
was expecting you to
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just completely
understand
all this stuff
and feel the same way.
I just think it's
hilarious. Well,
here's the thing. So I
used to put a
lot of pressure on
yours. I don't know
where I got the idea,
but somehow I
had the idea
in my head that how my
new year's goes will
determine how the
following
year goes. That's
what people, young,
happy, rosy, naive
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people always thought
that. And for
whatever reason,
that's what we were
told. I heard that
too. I don't know if I
heard it or if
I just assumed
it or if that's just
the feeling that
people get. It's like
the new year,
you have to...
You're going into the
new year. And it was
never about
celebrating the end of
the previous
year. It was about
going into the new
year with something.
How's this
new year going
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to be? So I did feel a
lot of pressure. Also,
when I was drinking,
did I enjoy
New Year's?
No, because it was
always a kind of a
letdown. I always
wanted it to be
amazing, but
it wouldn't
be or there'd be
crowds or I'd get too
drunk or whatever. And
then on top
of it, you're
hung over the next
day. Oh, exactly. Oh,
yeah. Exactly. You've
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got all this
pressure to start
the year amazingly
well, and then you're
just dying of hangover
the next
day. Yeah, now
I'm not too bothered
about it. I had a
really good news this
year. I just
went and hung
out with some friends
at a bar close to
where they live in
Down the Keys in
Dublin. And
we had a fantastic
time because we went
to this bar called
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Brewdog, which was
relatively
quiet and we had some
food and we had a
great chat. And then
we went next door to a
restaurant,
which was admittedly a
bit loud. There was
like a restaurant and
kind of a bar section,
which had very loud
music, which to be
honest, I wasn't
delighted about. But
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after midnight,
they started playing
like they knew their
audience. They started
playing music that
like I remember that
music that sort of we
grew up on a lot of
the sort of
dance music
of the late 90s, early
2000s. So there was a
lot of that. Okay, so
this is this is great.
I was actually going
to ask you what a New
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Year's looks like in
Ireland. Now,
obviously,
me as a silly American
noted when Dublin goes
out and celebrates and
goes out on the
town. I've heard mixed
stories as far as how
hard they go. I heard
some
stories where it's
like, you know, like
you've never seen
people party that
hard. Have you never
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heard that?
No, I have, you know,
and it's interesting
because I don't want
to I don't want to add
to a sort of negative.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I know
I'm putting you on the
spot here. But
I feel like I'm just
I'm just thinking
about it here. Yeah,
you know what?
I was in town.
I was in town before
Christmas. And I was
surprised at how
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chaotic it was not
surprised.
But I remembered how
chaotic the center of
the city is in Dublin,
leading up to
Christmas.
It was just people
crying and shouting.
And there it is kind
of chaotic.
There's a real
buzz about it, but it
can be it is slightly
different to America.
I think there's just
more of a binge
drinking culture here
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than there is in
America. Is
that true? I don't
want to be unfair to
Ireland either,
because like there is
a very negative
stereotype of
how Irish people
drink. But right,
having worked in bars
in America
and having, you
know, spent a lot of
time in Ireland, you
know, in bars as well,
(15:10):
it was feels it looks
a lot the same. There
is a slightly
different feeling.
Also, the pubs in
Ireland close quite
early. So everybody's
sort of out on the
street at the same
time. And that's that
can be problematic.
Oh, I didn't realize
that they close as
early. What? What?
Like midnight? So
yeah, I think
it's 1130. 1130 or 12
(15:33):
for pubs. Wow. And
then there are sort
of, you know,
late bars and
nightclubs and stuff.
But I think most of
the most places are
getting out
around, like,
you know, sometime
around half 11
midnight. I think
Ireland has a bit of a
an unfair reputation
for being, I suppose,
(15:54):
violent or, you know,
fall down, drunks.
Drinking here can be a
lot of fun. It can
also be over the top.
But I've said okay.
I think the positives
of the culture here in
Ireland is you can go
into a pub and
talk to anybody.
People will chat to
you. People are
generally up for a
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good time on a night
out. We don't really
have that sports bar
culture that exists in
America in the same
way. There's
not a ton of
sports bars with
hardcore sports fans
per se. It's more that
drink is like alcohol
is sort of woven
into the fabric of our
society in a way that
people just, you know,
it kind of comes into
everything. Do you
want to go for a pint?
Oh yeah, we must meet
up for a pint. That's
(16:35):
kind of the
default thing to do.
But I agree with you.
So tell me about
resolutions.
What's your
what's your buzz about
resolutions? It felt
silly that you're
going to come up
(16:56):
with this grand
proclamation once a
year at the beginning
of the year and you
know you look around
and you see most
people don't follow
through with the
resolutions. It felt
like I wanted to say
to myself I
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want to make big
decisions and take
risks and I want to do
it more often as
opposed to waiting
for a special holiday
and do it once a year.
So there's a million
reasons why I
was like this just
feels cheesy and on
top of it I thought it
(17:36):
was the most
overrated holiday
ever. So that's the
that being said I have
no problem
dedicating a work
ethic or passion to
something I just
didn't need the fact
that you needed to
hype it up and call it
a resolution
or a New Year's
resolution just
automatically turned
me off where I was
like you're
just putting
so much expectations
(17:57):
onto it for me it's
just gonna be another
Tuesday and then I
realize you know I'm
trying to figure out
where that's a little
too cynical
what I can do with it
and I'll get into that
but yeah I
understand that I
understand that. I
think people I'm
trying to think I'd
love to talk to
somebody who does make
resolutions every year
it sticks to them I
think the trope
(18:18):
is like the common
theme is that well you
make resolutions and
then you break
them I personally
don't anymore don't
make resolutions I
think I used to but I
I think for me what it
is is like if I'm
making a big sweeping
resolution I'm
trying to live in the
results of having done
that resolution you
know what I
mean if I'm like I'm
gonna go to the gym
(18:38):
every day so but I'm
looking with a sort
of a result in mind
and I don't think
that's that's never
really worked for me
personally so I think
now the way I sort of
approach my day-to-day
life now for
the past few years is
I try and do little
things every day you
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know what I
mean that that that
give me that that sort
of stack up and give
me the life
that I that I really
enjoy so in that sense
also specifics don't necessarily
work for me either
like I'd heard people
for a while say talk
about vision boards
I usually make a
vision board you
should do this you
should do
that and I tried
it and I found that if
I focus on a specific
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thing that I
want I get so
caught up in the in
the details of that
that I it doesn't it's
not helpful to me
you know I just real
quick I think that's a
great point and
I just want to
add you're locked in
focused on one
specific detail and
you might be blind
(19:41):
to the other amazing
things that could
happen that you didn't
see or foresee
and you're locked in
on this one detail
that you put on your
vision board five
years ago yeah and it
just it takes me down
rabbit hole because
you know I'm
like oh this is my
dream house not put up
a picture of my dream
house but then
I get caught up in the
like the little
details of it okay
well I have to do
that okay if I have
(20:02):
this house well then
literally I'll get
caught up in the
mundane details of it
and then the benefit
of it is lost
you know I try and
I try and be okay I
try and live in that
uncertainty now and
enjoy it so if I'm
hyper focused on this
outcome I want this
type of house I'm sort
of missing
the journey along the
way you know I'm kind
(20:22):
of missing my
day-to-day so what I
do now is I try and
deal in feelings and I
try and cultivate
those feelings every
day I don't want to
sound too this is not
meant to sound preachy
or hippie in
any hippie dippy in
any way but like I
just you know I have a
sort of a daily
routine that I stick
to now that I stick to
that I haven't
(20:43):
deviated from in a
couple of years like I
don't miss a day of
this thing or I start
to do affirmations
and I'll do I'll do
like meditation I'll
do some affirmations
I'll try and
just generate that
feeling every day so I
can live in the
feeling of you know
compared to the amount
of work that I'm
putting in the
benefits far
out way like
it's no problem and
the thing is because
(21:03):
it's because it's
rooted in feelings I
enjoy it I look
forward to it every
day because I get to
like feel great in the
morning and go oh I
get to sort of explore
feeling like this
every day and
that's enjoyable in
and of itself so it's
not really about I
want this job or I
want this role or I
want this amount of
(21:24):
money or I want this
house or I want my
life to look like this
it's kind of trusting
that all of
(21:54):
Right, right. I'm not
too far off of what
that is. That also
reminds me,
it sounds very
atomic habits by James
Clear, the
fact that...
We're going to bring
that up actually.
Okay, okay, great. So
you're aware of that
too, where it's just
small, small
things repeated
could make huge waves
later down the road,
(22:14):
but you were able to
find a daily routine
of these small things
and it was more the
consistency of how
much that
impacted your
life versus a perfect
resolution that you
just popped out.
Absolutely, and it's
not based on that, but
I did read that book
more recently because
I was kind of looking
for... I was like,
"Okay, well, how can I
expand on
this? I do this
every day." And I
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don't know where this
sort of routine stuff
came from.
It wasn't any
one thing that said,
"Oh, do this." I
just... Once I started
to feel that
way, I was like,
"Well, I want to hang
on to this. I want to
cultivate this
feeling. I
don't want to..."
I talked about it
before, like it was a
breakup and then
things sort of changed
for me and
I had this better
sense of self and this
(22:56):
sense of freedom and
this sense of
joy that I had.
And it wasn't about a
specific outcome. I
did read the James
Clear book
down the line. Um
And it made sense. I
didn't follow it per
se, but I you know,
the ideas of us
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Make sense to me. So
you found what works
for you. You did more
of it. You made of a
more of a
routine. Um, I
I'm actually very
similar. I I'm very
stuck on my morning
routine. It's not it's
actually not
for the feeling
it's just for the
repetition and and
just kind of
Finding a way to
quote-unquote feel
(23:37):
good. I actually
didn't even connect it
to feelings
at all. Um,
But it's interesting
because I I
completely agree
it's nice to
Like you found
something without
Needing a result or
putting
pressure on it. I
Found my routine over
years and I just
(23:58):
happen to do
a few things
Literally almost every
day for over years now
if you told me in the
beginning hey
You're gonna do this
one thing
for five years
I would have been like
that's ridiculous
But for me it's
effortless because
these are small things
that I just
start my day
I don't I don't make
it rocket science, you
know what I mean?
So I think there's
there's something to
be said and that's
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kind of like what I
was finding that
We were we made these
great things. We added
these things
in our lives
Just
Almost in a way by
accident. I just
realized that I almost
realized that last
year a little after
The beginning of last
year was almost the
last time that I
really drank. I
(24:39):
Didn't even realize
that it's
almost kind of a year
so like my point is is
For me, it wasn't like
a grand decision. It
was like hey, this
feels alright. Let me
just kind
of keep doing
I know that obviously
our stories are
very different
But that's just one
example of me falling
into morning pages
with Julie Cameron
(25:00):
I I just was like hey
this feels good
in the morning
Let me just wake up
and do these morning
pages you basically
scribble gibberish
pages every morning
right when you wake up
Yeah, exactly exactly
so I think that's kind
of something that I
want to highlight
because I feel like
that's helpful to
For us to see
similarities the fact
that hey, this is kind
(25:20):
of like what I was
saying where
you know, maybe
Great things that we
add to our life don't
need huge perfect
final expectations or
a result in mine
It all it's all
perspective
really for me
Like I my perspective
can shift and I can
get very negative and
down on myself
And or my perspective
can be amazing and I
can feel grateful and
I can feel connected
(25:40):
and I can
feel all this joy
It's really how I look
at it. The
circumstances don't
change.
It's just how I
Feel or how I choose
to see it and that is
what and I think it
just takes repeated
It's daily work for
me, you know what I
mean? And I say work
like it's I enjoy it,
but it is a daily
application
so it does require
some level of I
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Suppose discipline now
also also the you know
going back to the
original thing you're
doing it daily and
you're not treating
any day differently
Versus it's January
1st and you feel a
need to come up with a
large arching
You know decision for
your life or your year
No, because that that
that actively doesn't
work for me because
I've tried that and it
doesn't work for me
No, I realized my
(26:23):
relationship with
resolutions
Was actually kind of
giving me a way out
and I didn't figure
out how to make them
work for me
if you told me that
Say Tony Robbins came
up with a
great exercise
To make changes or
maybe we read
something in atomic
habits if you told me
(26:44):
any of those things
I very well could have
given it a shot
But instead it's
wrapped up in a cheesy
new year resolution
and it was very easy
for me to poo-poo it
The wrapping actually
threw me off
I'm going to make a
grand proclamation
here and I'm not gonna
call a resolution, but
I'm gonna make a grand
proclamation
We're grandiose. No, I
(27:04):
know right for those
who don't know this my
sister's an
art teacher
I have tons of art
supplies at my house.
I have
canvases never touched
I have an easel a
beautiful easel never
touched. I
Have not painted a
drop in years waiting
for the perfect time
I'm going to use up
all my paint this year
(27:26):
You could easily find
a resolution online
say hey this year
I want to paint a
painting and I feel
like that's not gonna
work for me because
the entire year
I'm going to try to
perfect that
one painting
so I reframed it and
I said all the paint
in my house that I got
gifted to me. I'm
going to use it
(27:46):
I'm going to use it
with reckless abandon.
I'm going to use it
without expectations.
It's not gonna
be the Mona Lisa
I literally am giving
my permission to use
up all my paint. I
think that's great.
Can you use
it in any way?
Can you use it in?
Can you go to like a
PETA protest and and
like throw it
on a fur coat?
No, no, I actually I
(28:07):
don't think that
counts. I don't think
that counts
I think this is an
opportunity where I
was resisting and I
wanted to figure it
out and I needed to
trick my brain.
I'm not just, I feel
like I'm like most
average people where
we think we're
rational most
of the time.
And a lot of the time
we might be living in
(28:27):
fear of resistance.
From our previous
conversations, like
the one that we talked
about, like I decided
out of a whim to start
creating for YouTube
and whatnot.
I'm not interested in
the 98% where I think
I'm right.
I'm more interested in
the 2% I'm wrong and I
want to see where the
other side of that is.
I love that.
(28:48):
I love that.
And I'm not
particularly
anti-resolutions.
They just don't work
for me. I think
they're by their
nature a good thing.
I know that we're
making resolutions
sound grand.
The New York Times did
editorial.
They were saying, hey,
this person happened
to be really into
resolutions.
They gave tips. Make
(29:08):
it measurable. Make it
realistic.
And it's something
that you want to do.
Now, nobody, notice
the thing that you and
I were kind of calling
out was the fact that
it needed to be grand.
(29:29):
Sweeping.
Yeah, exactly.
We projected a couple
things on our idea of
resolutions.
And I do see that
there's a lot of
people that could make
and venture into
something using even
just those three
discussions
suggestions that maybe
could work for them.
Actually,
you're right.
(29:49):
I love that because I
guess I did make one,
but it wasn't related
to New Year's.
So I just made a
resolution that I was
going to do because
about exercise,
because I will go to
the gym when I'm in
LA, but sporadically,
I don't
have a program.
I don't have it's kind
of me motivating me.
(30:10):
So I made a resolution
that until every day,
until I do this next
job that I'm that I'm
doing, I'm going to do
this many push ups and
this many sit ups and
this many squats.
So I just made like
just every
day, every day.
So that was because I
don't exercise with
any consistency.
I do it very
sporadically and sort
of when the mood takes
(30:30):
me and I'm a bit, I'll
go tomorrow or, you
know, and I enjoy it
when I do.
I just I'm not I don't
have that discipline
instilled in me.
I was never
really a gym goer.
So I was like, OK,
well, here's something
I can do every day
until I do
this next job.
I'm going to do this
many push ups
or whatever.
And it's not a ton.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to say
how many because I
don't embarrass
(30:50):
everybody.
Well, I was going to
say, Rene, Rene, Rene
didn't mention that
this next job
starts tomorrow.
So it's actually just
one day of working
out, which I think is
brilliant.
That's that's a way of
reframing it.
You worked out for one
day and then now
you're done.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
just don't know how to
start in the next one.
So it could be a
(31:11):
while. Could
be a while.
OK, there you go. Just
for me, it's just
about doing a small
amount every day.
Like I read that. Was
that the James
Clearbook we
talked about?
I won't go to the gym,
but I'll just I'll
just put on my shoes.
You know what I mean?
Exactly. I was about
to say that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Make it ridiculously
almost silly.
Easy like instead of
(31:32):
brushing your teeth
every every day,
which I think, you
know, most people
probably
would. Yeah. Yeah.
I'll brush half of
your mouth every day
and then you're going
to be like, well,
that's just kind of
ridiculous. And then
you'll end up brushing
your your brushing
your your
entire mouth.
OK, so it's like going
to the gym and doing
two minutes.
I'm only going to do
two minutes and then
you're two minutes in.
You're like, all
(31:52):
right, I'll do.
Yeah. I was going to
say this. You have
your resolution.
That's that's you had
with working
out every day.
But I have another
resolution for you.
Now, this is
going to you know,
we obviously have some
trust here. We've been
doing this
for a while.
And I feel like I know
you know this is going
to challenge you
physically,
emotionally,
spiritually. I was
(32:14):
going to say your
resolution should be
you watch the
substance.
This is this is your
this is your
resolution.
What if I hate the
substance? No, no, no,
no, no, you're going
to hate it.
No, I know you're
going to hate it. It's
going to tell me this
out there.
I think it's going to
challenge your
delicate Irish
sensibilities.
And you and me have
(32:35):
similar tastes and
movies marinate on it.
Twenty twenty six. How
you doing, guys?
Welcome to our
podcast, the Actors
Guide to the
Substance Movie.
So a hit and gems. Do
you have one? Are we
ready to do
hit and gems?
I don't know. I might
recycle the one Iota
thing for people.
Oh, my God. I was so
funny. I was going to
call you out.
I was going to say
that that was a good
one. My hit and gem is
(32:55):
something I talked
about earlier,
as it often is,
because I don't even
know I have a hit and
gem until I
say it out loud.
But it's the website
one Iota. That's the
number one in
Iota, Iota.com.
And what it is is free
tickets for people who
want to go to game
shows or
multi-camp sitcom,
sitcom taping in Los
(33:15):
Angeles. So you go on
there, you see what's
coming up,
you see what's taping
and you can
get free tickets.
So if you have an
interest, if you're an
actor, we highly
recommend you go to a
multi-camp
comedy taping,
sitcom taping. But
that's where you'll
find all those
tickets for free.
Nice. Yes. So for my
(33:37):
hit and gem, I'm going
to do this because
it's timely.
We've been talking
about award
season for a while.
And award season is
actually coming to a
close soon. We've
discussed screenings
for the non-actors
listening.
During the award
season push,
especially SAG
members, we get
invited to screenings.
And I didn't realize I
actually should have
(33:57):
found this earlier.
This is a website I'm
going to put in the
show description. This
is the master treasure
trove of screenings.
OK, so we were getting
emailed because
there's award season
and flooded our inbox.
I didn't realize or I
forget every year that
there's a website blog
that has every
studio's screening,
(34:18):
focused pictures,
Disney, Warner
Brothers. Good God. I
always forget it,
but I do it when I'm
in New York because I
get to bring
my sister here.
My last week in New
York, I'm literally
seeing a
movie every night.
I'm jam packing this
final week.
What's the website?
I'm going to put in
the show description.
It's on
awardswatch.com.
It's a long link, so
(34:38):
I'm going to put in
the show description,
but it's awards watch.
This actually says
2023, 2024, but it
doesn't matter because
they actually still
use the same websites
for this year.
And that actually
brings up another
great point.
There are some films,
specifically a couple
824 films, where with
your SAG card
or Guild card,
they'll actually give
you a ticket to the
movie in the theater.
(35:00):
So that's kind of
cool, too.
So that gives a little
more flexibility
because you could do
that on your own time.
Anyway, the master
treasure trove of
screenings as awards
season comes to a
close this last month.
Anyway, so that's my
hidden gem. Hope you
guys enjoy it. Hope
you guys can
check it out.
(35:20):
And that's it for our
show. See you next
week. Thanks
for watching.
I'll be the brilliant
new year, whether it
was quiet, whether
you're in bed at 930
like Econ,
or whether you were in
a too loud bar like
me. Exactly. All
right. See you guys.
All right.
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So we're going to get
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Also, the Golden
Globes are here.
They happen
this Sunday.
We are actually
recording before the
Golden Globes.
Glazer's hosting.
So we're going to talk
about that.
We're going
into the holidays.
It's the new year.
We're going to talk
about new year's
resolutions.
Do we like new years?
Do we think it's
(01:01):
incredibly overrated?
Strong opinions here.
And that as a nice,
let me tell you.
Resolutions.
Are they shite or not?
Don't let me in there
with you, Larry David.
I'm okay with.
Maybe we have a few
resolutions of our own
that we're gonna share
and if you're not into
resolutions
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(01:21):
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(02:24):
consent to being
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You're you're doing
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The scene that's
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This is where the
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(02:44):
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Otherwise they would
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Specifically of how
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giving a lot more
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Protection to the
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to the sag
Exactly regulations,
but this is going to
(03:05):
cover all actors in
California
So it's a big deal.
It's it's covering
non-union actors as
well. Some might ask
well, why is this
only, California?
Exactly, and that's
exactly what we need
to be asking our local
and state governments.
Why is this only,
California?
Atlanta yeah,
Atlanta's not big on
(03:25):
Unions exactly now if
we're going to have
all these regions
bustling with
Hollywood productions
Well, we're going to
have to ask ourselves.
Are they going to
eventually protect
their
actors? Yeah. Yeah
I know we talked about
AI a lot, but it does
seem to be a very
Probably the most
existential threat I
think to this industry
at the moment, right?
(03:45):
You know and and
something to think
about with contracts
and I feel this way
about any contract
These contracts are
meant for
when it goes bad
It's not meant for
when the the marriage
is all rosy
and peachy keen
It's actually trying
to protect what might
happen later on down
the road. It's not for
a rosy marriage
It's for a possible
(04:07):
divorce in five years
now. I know that's
negative and skeptical
I don't think that's
negative. It's it's
it's there to
protect people
It's it's worst-case
scenario stuff and you
just don't want people
to be taken advantage
of so this bill takes
effect this week
We're going to
keep an eye on it
If you have any
stories of knowing an
actor who's gotten
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(04:27):
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Our fellow actors to
stay informed
so also
the
Golden Globes
are this Sunday?
This is recorded
before the Golden
(04:47):
Globes. We'll talk
about it the next
episode and
Nikki Glaser is
hosting. It's actually
the first woman host
To host the show by
herself. I mean, she's
obviously one of the
hottest comedians of
the last year
So I'm really
interested to see that
also people remember
Golden Globes was the
show that Ricky
Gervais did a run for
(05:08):
a while and that was a
very particular
thing that was
Polarizing, but it was
kind of it was kind of
great to watch. I mean
he was
freaking hilarious
You know, I mean very
entertaining. Yeah, he
did it. Yeah times. I
think I I hinted that
we might be
live-streaming. Um
That is absolutely not
gonna happen. I'll
tell you that I will I
will be paying
(05:29):
attention to the I'm
in New York right now
That show is probably
gonna end at midnight
on the East Coast
Not I'm not gonna be
live-streaming it.
Uh-uh, and then Rean
is let's see that will
probably be ending at
5 a.m. For him. I
Actually will probably
if you want
live-stream it but
it'll just be me
snoring like
My friend in that
(05:49):
college used to go
home when he was like
after a night out when
he was drunk
He would go home and
at the time Big
Brother was new and
that was on and he
would go home and
watch them sleep
To help him sleep
So he would go and
watch them in the Big
Brother house asleep
and then that would
help him fall asleep
So we could do
something like that if
people can't
sleep Wow. I
Didn't realize that
(06:10):
Big Brother actually
showed a lot of
footage of them
sleeping. I think
there was a
24-hour feed
I didn't watch it, but
there was a
24-hour feed
I believe he could
watch it at all times.
It was bonkers
That's kind of really
ever watch Big
Brother, right?
No, I didn't but I
know of it
I I knew of it at the
time it was
huge news here
Everybody was talking
about it and it was
controversial and
(06:30):
people get kicked out
of the house
Hey, I mean they were
they were ahead of the
they were
ahead of the time
Do you watch reality
TV anything reality
that you watch? I mean
I did watch way back
in the day
real world
Survivor when it was
new. Yes, I am I think
the only reason and
here's the thing
because I
know reality TV
(06:53):
Because I know at
times, I don't watch
it, I don't
seek it out.
But at times I would
have watched, like I
used to watch
Deadliest Catch
and I watched it with
an
ex-girlfriend of mine.
The two of us were
really into it.
So we would find
reality
shows to watch.
We would get very
invested and kind of
make fun of them.
And I do understand
why they're, you know,
they're cheaper to
make and they draw
(07:14):
people in and they
have and they, you
know, they push these
storylines.
And
so I, you know, I do
get it to some extent.
And I think the first
reality TV show was
Cops, right, to come
out of that.
That was came out of
the writer's strike in
1988, I think.
That was one of the...
Wait, what?
Yeah.
No.
(07:34):
So Fox, Fox during the
writer's strike, I
think in 1988, it
could be wrong in that
it was in and around
towards the...
I see. Yeah,
you're going.
It's just it's just
interesting,
the timing.
You're
completely right.
The 1988 writer
strike, obviously that
(07:54):
was, you know, I
wasn't out
here in L.A.
You know, it wasn't on
my it wasn't on my on
my radar, but you're
completely right.
It just it's
coincidental because
the next
writer strike,
what was birthed out
of that strike is The
Apprentice
with Donald Trump.
(08:15):
Really? So yeah.
So it's just like to
see the seeds.
Now you bring up a
great point.
I was just hearing
people discuss it over
the course
of the strike.
Even reality TV
production was was
down over the strike.
That's just a
testament to where the
strength of the
industry is right now.
But they're they're
not producing as much
(08:35):
reality TV compared to
years before as well.
So everything's just
tightening up
a teeny bit.
Yeah. Did you ever go
to you ever go to
sitcom tapings?
A couple of times.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
I need to I
need to try that.
I want to do that. So
there's a website
called One Iota in
case people
(08:55):
don't know her. If
you're in LA you can
sign up. I think it's
free, right? The
tickets are free.
That's a great idea.
Great
education for actors.
Best job in show
business, they say, on
a multi-camp sitcom.
The work
days are short.
Regular schedule.
Exactly. All right, so
that's word around
town. So it's the
beginning of
the new year.
I'm really curious, we
(09:16):
haven't really
discussed this, but
I'm curious your take
on new years
and resolutions. I
have strong
feelings about it.
Okay.
But needless to say, I
was in bed, I was
literally in bed at
9.30pm, happy as a
clam, and had
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the most glorious
sleep of my life. And
that's how I prefer to
spend new
years, at least
currently.
Did you ever like new
years? Were you ever a
big new years guy?
Probably not. I think
new years is by far
one of the worst, most
overrated holidays
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in general.
Okay.
I'm not exaggerating.
I think it's literally
one of the worst
holidays. Now here's
the thing,
obviously, we need to
start off the year
strong and blah, blah,
blah. It's so
overdone with
expectations. Say for
example, I'm in a city
like LA, most people
are trying to figure
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out what the best
party is, you're
trying to get into
some night that's
expensive, it's
overdone, you're with
a bunch of people that
you probably have no
interest in
hanging out.
Just to hype up this
need for an experience
or an event to end the
year, the experience
is probably
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underwhelming, so
you're actually
drinking more to try
to make it more fun.
The dinners and the
restaurants are
usually this price
fixed menu that are
overpriced
for what you get.
Yeah, and then the
next day you're
hungover and you just
have a huge
bar tab. And then
we'll get into what I
think about
resolutions. But that
right off the
bat is it's a recipe
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for disaster, the type
of expectations that
go into... And
obviously,
there are some people
who have tasteful
evenings with their
loved ones or
friends that they
love and that would be
a great scenario. I'm
totally down with
that. But
in general, I
feel like the evening
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and the plans are
usually disappointing
and
underwhelming. I'd rather
get a great night of
sleep. So my point is,
I don't even wait to
see the ball drop. I
absolutely don't. So
that's how I feel.
Okay, I like that. I
like your Larry David
S. Grant on that. I
was expecting you to
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just completely
understand
all this stuff
and feel the same way.
I just think it's
hilarious. Well,
here's the thing. So I
used to put a
lot of pressure on
yours. I don't know
where I got the idea,
but somehow I
had the idea
in my head that how my
new year's goes will
determine how the
following
year goes. That's
what people, young,
happy, rosy, naive
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people always thought
that. And for
whatever reason,
that's what we were
told. I heard that
too. I don't know if I
heard it or if
I just assumed
it or if that's just
the feeling that
people get. It's like
the new year,
you have to...
You're going into the
new year. And it was
never about
celebrating the end of
the previous
year. It was about
going into the new
year with something.
How's this
new year going
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to be? So I did feel a
lot of pressure. Also,
when I was drinking,
did I enjoy
New Year's?
No, because it was
always a kind of a
letdown. I always
wanted it to be
amazing, but
it wouldn't
be or there'd be
crowds or I'd get too
drunk or whatever. And
then on top
of it, you're
hung over the next
day. Oh, exactly. Oh,
yeah. Exactly. You've
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got all this
pressure to start
the year amazingly
well, and then you're
just dying of hangover
the next
day. Yeah, now
I'm not too bothered
about it. I had a
really good news this
year. I just
went and hung
out with some friends
at a bar close to
where they live in
Down the Keys in
Dublin. And
we had a fantastic
time because we went
to this bar called
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Brewdog, which was
relatively
quiet and we had some
food and we had a
great chat. And then
we went next door to a
restaurant,
which was admittedly a
bit loud. There was
like a restaurant and
kind of a bar section,
which had very loud
music, which to be
honest, I wasn't
delighted about. But
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after midnight,
they started playing
like they knew their
audience. They started
playing music that
like I remember that
music that sort of we
grew up on a lot of
the sort of
dance music
of the late 90s, early
2000s. So there was a
lot of that. Okay, so
this is this is great.
I was actually going
to ask you what a New
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Year's looks like in
Ireland. Now,
obviously,
me as a silly American
noted when Dublin goes
out and celebrates and
goes out on the
town. I've heard mixed
stories as far as how
hard they go. I heard
some
stories where it's
like, you know, like
you've never seen
people party that
hard. Have you never
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heard that?
No, I have, you know,
and it's interesting
because I don't want
to I don't want to add
to a sort of negative.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I know
I'm putting you on the
spot here. But
I feel like I'm just
I'm just thinking
about it here. Yeah,
you know what?
I was in town.
I was in town before
Christmas. And I was
surprised at how
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chaotic it was not
surprised.
But I remembered how
chaotic the center of
the city is in Dublin,
leading up to
Christmas.
It was just people
crying and shouting.
And there it is kind
of chaotic.
There's a real
buzz about it, but it
can be it is slightly
different to America.
I think there's just
more of a binge
drinking culture here
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than there is in
America. Is
that true? I don't
want to be unfair to
Ireland either,
because like there is
a very negative
stereotype of
how Irish people
drink. But right,
having worked in bars
in America
and having, you
know, spent a lot of
time in Ireland, you
know, in bars as well,
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it was feels it looks
a lot the same. There
is a slightly
different feeling.
Also, the pubs in
Ireland close quite
early. So everybody's
sort of out on the
street at the same
time. And that's that
can be problematic.
Oh, I didn't realize
that they close as
early. What? What?
Like midnight? So
yeah, I think
it's 1130. 1130 or 12
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for pubs. Wow. And
then there are sort
of, you know,
late bars and
nightclubs and stuff.
But I think most of
the most places are
getting out
around, like,
you know, sometime
around half 11
midnight. I think
Ireland has a bit of a
an unfair reputation
for being, I suppose,
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violent or, you know,
fall down, drunks.
Drinking here can be a
lot of fun. It can
also be over the top.
But I've said okay.
I think the positives
of the culture here in
Ireland is you can go
into a pub and
talk to anybody.
People will chat to
you. People are
generally up for a
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good time on a night
out. We don't really
have that sports bar
culture that exists in
America in the same
way. There's
not a ton of
sports bars with
hardcore sports fans
per se. It's more that
drink is like alcohol
is sort of woven
into the fabric of our
society in a way that
people just, you know,
it kind of comes into
everything. Do you
want to go for a pint?
Oh yeah, we must meet
up for a pint. That's
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kind of the
default thing to do.
But I agree with you.
So tell me about
resolutions.
What's your
what's your buzz about
resolutions? It felt
silly that you're
going to come up
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with this grand
proclamation once a
year at the beginning
of the year and you
know you look around
and you see most
people don't follow
through with the
resolutions. It felt
like I wanted to say
to myself I
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want to make big
decisions and take
risks and I want to do
it more often as
opposed to waiting
for a special holiday
and do it once a year.
So there's a million
reasons why I
was like this just
feels cheesy and on
top of it I thought it
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was the most
overrated holiday
ever. So that's the
that being said I have
no problem
dedicating a work
ethic or passion to
something I just
didn't need the fact
that you needed to
hype it up and call it
a resolution
or a New Year's
resolution just
automatically turned
me off where I was
like you're
just putting
so much expectations
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onto it for me it's
just gonna be another
Tuesday and then I
realize you know I'm
trying to figure out
where that's a little
too cynical
what I can do with it
and I'll get into that
but yeah I
understand that I
understand that. I
think people I'm
trying to think I'd
love to talk to
somebody who does make
resolutions every year
it sticks to them I
think the trope
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is like the common
theme is that well you
make resolutions and
then you break
them I personally
don't anymore don't
make resolutions I
think I used to but I
I think for me what it
is is like if I'm
making a big sweeping
resolution I'm
trying to live in the
results of having done
that resolution you
know what I
mean if I'm like I'm
gonna go to the gym
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every day so but I'm
looking with a sort
of a result in mind
and I don't think
that's that's never
really worked for me
personally so I think
now the way I sort of
approach my day-to-day
life now for
the past few years is
I try and do little
things every day you
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know what I
mean that that that
give me that that sort
of stack up and give
me the life
that I that I really
enjoy so in that sense
also specifics don't necessarily
work for me either
like I'd heard people
for a while say talk
about vision boards
I usually make a
vision board you
should do this you
should do
that and I tried
it and I found that if
I focus on a specific
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thing that I
want I get so
caught up in the in
the details of that
that I it doesn't it's
not helpful to me
you know I just real
quick I think that's a
great point and
I just want to
add you're locked in
focused on one
specific detail and
you might be blind
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to the other amazing
things that could
happen that you didn't
see or foresee
and you're locked in
on this one detail
that you put on your
vision board five
years ago yeah and it
just it takes me down
rabbit hole because
you know I'm
like oh this is my
dream house not put up
a picture of my dream
house but then
I get caught up in the
like the little
details of it okay
well I have to do
that okay if I have
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this house well then
literally I'll get
caught up in the
mundane details of it
and then the benefit
of it is lost
you know I try and
I try and be okay I
try and live in that
uncertainty now and
enjoy it so if I'm
hyper focused on this
outcome I want this
type of house I'm sort
of missing
the journey along the
way you know I'm kind
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of missing my
day-to-day so what I
do now is I try and
deal in feelings and I
try and cultivate
those feelings every
day I don't want to
sound too this is not
meant to sound preachy
or hippie in
any hippie dippy in
any way but like I
just you know I have a
sort of a daily
routine that I stick
to now that I stick to
that I haven't
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deviated from in a
couple of years like I
don't miss a day of
this thing or I start
to do affirmations
and I'll do I'll do
like meditation I'll
do some affirmations
I'll try and
just generate that
feeling every day so I
can live in the
feeling of you know
compared to the amount
of work that I'm
putting in the
benefits far
out way like
it's no problem and
the thing is because
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it's because it's
rooted in feelings I
enjoy it I look
forward to it every
day because I get to
like feel great in the
morning and go oh I
get to sort of explore
feeling like this
every day and
that's enjoyable in
and of itself so it's
not really about I
want this job or I
want this role or I
want this amount of
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money or I want this
house or I want my
life to look like this
it's kind of trusting
that all of
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Right, right. I'm not
too far off of what
that is. That also
reminds me,
it sounds very
atomic habits by James
Clear, the
fact that...
We're going to bring
that up actually.
Okay, okay, great. So
you're aware of that
too, where it's just
small, small
things repeated
could make huge waves
later down the road,
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but you were able to
find a daily routine
of these small things
and it was more the
consistency of how
much that
impacted your
life versus a perfect
resolution that you
just popped out.
Absolutely, and it's
not based on that, but
I did read that book
more recently because
I was kind of looking
for... I was like,
"Okay, well, how can I
expand on
this? I do this
every day." And I
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don't know where this
sort of routine stuff
came from.
It wasn't any
one thing that said,
"Oh, do this." I
just... Once I started
to feel that
way, I was like,
"Well, I want to hang
on to this. I want to
cultivate this
feeling. I
don't want to..."
I talked about it
before, like it was a
breakup and then
things sort of changed
for me and
I had this better
sense of self and this
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sense of freedom and
this sense of
joy that I had.
And it wasn't about a
specific outcome. I
did read the James
Clear book
down the line. Um
And it made sense. I
didn't follow it per
se, but I you know,
the ideas of us
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Make sense to me. So
you found what works
for you. You did more
of it. You made of a
more of a
routine. Um, I
I'm actually very
similar. I I'm very
stuck on my morning
routine. It's not it's
actually not
for the feeling
it's just for the
repetition and and
just kind of
Finding a way to
quote-unquote feel
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good. I actually
didn't even connect it
to feelings
at all. Um,
But it's interesting
because I I
completely agree
it's nice to
Like you found
something without
Needing a result or
putting
pressure on it. I
Found my routine over
years and I just
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happen to do
a few things
Literally almost every
day for over years now
if you told me in the
beginning hey
You're gonna do this
one thing
for five years
I would have been like
that's ridiculous
But for me it's
effortless because
these are small things
that I just
start my day
I don't I don't make
it rocket science, you
know what I mean?
So I think there's
there's something to
be said and that's
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kind of like what I
was finding that
We were we made these
great things. We added
these things
in our lives
Just
Almost in a way by
accident. I just
realized that I almost
realized that last
year a little after
The beginning of last
year was almost the
last time that I
really drank. I
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Didn't even realize
that it's
almost kind of a year
so like my point is is
For me, it wasn't like
a grand decision. It
was like hey, this
feels alright. Let me
just kind
of keep doing
I know that obviously
our stories are
very different
But that's just one
example of me falling
into morning pages
with Julie Cameron
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I I just was like hey
this feels good
in the morning
Let me just wake up
and do these morning
pages you basically
scribble gibberish
pages every morning
right when you wake up
Yeah, exactly exactly
so I think that's kind
of something that I
want to highlight
because I feel like
that's helpful to
For us to see
similarities the fact
that hey, this is kind
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of like what I was
saying where
you know, maybe
Great things that we
add to our life don't
need huge perfect
final expectations or
a result in mine
It all it's all
perspective
really for me
Like I my perspective
can shift and I can
get very negative and
down on myself
And or my perspective
can be amazing and I
can feel grateful and
I can feel connected
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and I can
feel all this joy
It's really how I look
at it. The
circumstances don't
change.
It's just how I
Feel or how I choose
to see it and that is
what and I think it
just takes repeated
It's daily work for
me, you know what I
mean? And I say work
like it's I enjoy it,
but it is a daily
application
so it does require
some level of I
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Suppose discipline now
also also the you know
going back to the
original thing you're
doing it daily and
you're not treating
any day differently
Versus it's January
1st and you feel a
need to come up with a
large arching
You know decision for
your life or your year
No, because that that
that actively doesn't
work for me because
I've tried that and it
doesn't work for me
No, I realized my
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relationship with
resolutions
Was actually kind of
giving me a way out
and I didn't figure
out how to make them
work for me
if you told me that
Say Tony Robbins came
up with a
great exercise
To make changes or
maybe we read
something in atomic
habits if you told me
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any of those things
I very well could have
given it a shot
But instead it's
wrapped up in a cheesy
new year resolution
and it was very easy
for me to poo-poo it
The wrapping actually
threw me off
I'm going to make a
grand proclamation
here and I'm not gonna
call a resolution, but
I'm gonna make a grand
proclamation
We're grandiose. No, I
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know right for those
who don't know this my
sister's an
art teacher
I have tons of art
supplies at my house.
I have
canvases never touched
I have an easel a
beautiful easel never
touched. I
Have not painted a
drop in years waiting
for the perfect time
I'm going to use up
all my paint this year
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You could easily find
a resolution online
say hey this year
I want to paint a
painting and I feel
like that's not gonna
work for me because
the entire year
I'm going to try to
perfect that
one painting
so I reframed it and
I said all the paint
in my house that I got
gifted to me. I'm
going to use it
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I'm going to use it
with reckless abandon.
I'm going to use it
without expectations.
It's not gonna
be the Mona Lisa
I literally am giving
my permission to use
up all my paint. I
think that's great.
Can you use
it in any way?
Can you use it in?
Can you go to like a
PETA protest and and
like throw it
on a fur coat?
No, no, I actually I
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don't think that
counts. I don't think
that counts
I think this is an
opportunity where I
was resisting and I
wanted to figure it
out and I needed to
trick my brain.
I'm not just, I feel
like I'm like most
average people where
we think we're
rational most
of the time.
And a lot of the time
we might be living in
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fear of resistance.
From our previous
conversations, like
the one that we talked
about, like I decided
out of a whim to start
creating for YouTube
and whatnot.
I'm not interested in
the 98% where I think
I'm right.
I'm more interested in
the 2% I'm wrong and I
want to see where the
other side of that is.
I love that.
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I love that.
And I'm not
particularly
anti-resolutions.
They just don't work
for me. I think
they're by their
nature a good thing.
I know that we're
making resolutions
sound grand.
The New York Times did
editorial.
They were saying, hey,
this person happened
to be really into
resolutions.
They gave tips. Make
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it measurable. Make it
realistic.
And it's something
that you want to do.
Now, nobody, notice
the thing that you and
I were kind of calling
out was the fact that
it needed to be grand.
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Sweeping.
Yeah, exactly.
We projected a couple
things on our idea of
resolutions.
And I do see that
there's a lot of
people that could make
and venture into
something using even
just those three
discussions
suggestions that maybe
could work for them.
Actually,
you're right.
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I love that because I
guess I did make one,
but it wasn't related
to New Year's.
So I just made a
resolution that I was
going to do because
about exercise,
because I will go to
the gym when I'm in
LA, but sporadically,
I don't
have a program.
I don't have it's kind
of me motivating me.
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So I made a resolution
that until every day,
until I do this next
job that I'm that I'm
doing, I'm going to do
this many push ups and
this many sit ups and
this many squats.
So I just made like
just every
day, every day.
So that was because I
don't exercise with
any consistency.
I do it very
sporadically and sort
of when the mood takes
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me and I'm a bit, I'll
go tomorrow or, you
know, and I enjoy it
when I do.
I just I'm not I don't
have that discipline
instilled in me.
I was never
really a gym goer.
So I was like, OK,
well, here's something
I can do every day
until I do
this next job.
I'm going to do this
many push ups
or whatever.
And it's not a ton.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to say
how many because I
don't embarrass
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everybody.
Well, I was going to
say, Rene, Rene, Rene
didn't mention that
this next job
starts tomorrow.
So it's actually just
one day of working
out, which I think is
brilliant.
That's that's a way of
reframing it.
You worked out for one
day and then now
you're done.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I
just don't know how to
start in the next one.
So it could be a
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while. Could
be a while.
OK, there you go. Just
for me, it's just
about doing a small
amount every day.
Like I read that. Was
that the James
Clearbook we
talked about?
I won't go to the gym,
but I'll just I'll
just put on my shoes.
You know what I mean?
Exactly. I was about
to say that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Make it ridiculously
almost silly.
Easy like instead of
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brushing your teeth
every every day,
which I think, you
know, most people
probably
would. Yeah. Yeah.
I'll brush half of
your mouth every day
and then you're going
to be like, well,
that's just kind of
ridiculous. And then
you'll end up brushing
your your brushing
your your
entire mouth.
OK, so it's like going
to the gym and doing
two minutes.
I'm only going to do
two minutes and then
you're two minutes in.
You're like, all
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right, I'll do.
Yeah. I was going to
say this. You have
your resolution.
That's that's you had
with working
out every day.
But I have another
resolution for you.
Now, this is
going to you know,
we obviously have some
trust here. We've been
doing this
for a while.
And I feel like I know
you know this is going
to challenge you
physically,
emotionally,
spiritually. I was
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going to say your
resolution should be
you watch the
substance.
This is this is your
this is your
resolution.
What if I hate the
substance? No, no, no,
no, no, you're going
to hate it.
No, I know you're
going to hate it. It's
going to tell me this
out there.
I think it's going to
challenge your
delicate Irish
sensibilities.
And you and me have
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similar tastes and
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call you out.
I was going to say
that that was a good
one. My hit and gem is
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something I talked
about earlier,
as it often is,
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comedy taping,
sitcom taping. But
that's where you'll
find all those
tickets for free.
Nice. Yes. So for my
(33:37):
hit and gem, I'm going
to do this because
it's timely.
We've been talking
about award
season for a while.
And award season is
actually coming to a
close soon. We've
discussed screenings
for the non-actors
listening.
During the award
season push,
especially SAG
members, we get
invited to screenings.
And I didn't realize I
actually should have
(33:57):
found this earlier.
This is a website I'm
going to put in the
show description. This
is the master treasure
trove of screenings.
OK, so we were getting
emailed because
there's award season
and flooded our inbox.
I didn't realize or I
forget every year that
there's a website blog
that has every
studio's screening,
(34:18):
focused pictures,
Disney, Warner
Brothers. Good God. I
always forget it,
but I do it when I'm
in New York because I
get to bring
my sister here.
My last week in New
York, I'm literally
seeing a
movie every night.
I'm jam packing this
final week.
What's the website?
I'm going to put in
the show description.
It's on
awardswatch.com.
It's a long link, so
(34:38):
I'm going to put in
the show description,
but it's awards watch.
This actually says
2023, 2024, but it
doesn't matter because
they actually still
use the same websites
for this year.
And that actually
brings up another
great point.
There are some films,
specifically a couple
824 films, where with
your SAG card
or Guild card,
they'll actually give
you a ticket to the
movie in the theater.
(35:00):
So that's kind of
cool, too.
So that gives a little
more flexibility
because you could do
that on your own time.
Anyway, the master
treasure trove of
screenings as awards
season comes to a
close this last month.
Anyway, so that's my
hidden gem. Hope you
guys enjoy it. Hope
you guys can
check it out.
(35:20):
And that's it for our
show. See you next
week. Thanks
for watching.
I'll be the brilliant
new year, whether it
was quiet, whether
you're in bed at 930
like Econ,
or whether you were in
a too loud bar like
me. Exactly. All
right. See you guys.
All right.
See you guys.
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