Join us in an impactful episode featuring Dr. Alex Balekian. As a medical doctor and congressional aspirant of California District 30, Dr. Balekian provides profound insights into the challenges surrounding gender identity in schools and the significant implications on parental rights.
Together, we delve into the complexities of state laws around emancipation of minors and custody battles, their direct interference in the parent-child relationship, and the extensive repercussions on children from different states.
As a gay man and a professional in the medical field, Dr. Balekian expresses frustration around the intensified focus on social justice teachings over traditional subjects like math and reading. He urges for a comprehensive evaluation of factors influencing gender identity disorder in children and scrutinizes the rush towards gender-affirming care.
This riveting episode explores the intricacies of gender dysphoria, the modern model of 'conversion therapy' 2.0, the challenges of modern parenting, and the influential role of technology. It also sheds light on contemporaries legislation and the continuing debate regarding the intersection of education, technology, and gender identity.
Tune in for this illuminating discussion on politics, societal issues, and the persistent quest for justice and truth.
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Welcome to the dark side of the rainbow today we have a special guest who's
running for an important seat in California.
And this is Alex Malekian. And he is, among other things, fighting for the protection
of parents' rights, for the protection of children.
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And that's the kind of leadership that we need on the political scene right
now. How are you doing, Alex?
I'm good, Robert. Thank you for having me on today. Appreciate it.
That's a pleasure and an honor to have you.
So can you give us some background about some of of the main challenges that
you're facing in California's District 30 right now regarding parental rights
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being a challenge and the kind of things that are happening to the children?
So yeah, so I am a physician born and raised in Glendale, practicing in Glendale,
which is part of District 30.
So this is my hometown right now. It is represented by Adam Schiff in Congress,
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and he's running for Dianne Feinstein's seat.
So I know this city. I know this district. It's like the back of my hand. I went to school here.
And things have definitely changed in the 45 years that I've been here.
Not just in parents' rights, but also in the state and how physicians,
my colleagues, are treating children not in the best interests of the children or their parents.
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We have a few matters. Number one would be in schools where children are being
taught more social justice than the usual reading, writing, and arithmetic that
we were taught to have marketable job skills.
In addition to that, there has been a wedge that has been driven between parents
and their children by teachers who are unfortunately caught in the middle by
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state laws that are trying to, quote unquote,
affirm the gender identity of children.
But instead, what they do is isolate them from their parents and lead them on
a path that these children don't entirely understand, but appears palatable
to them because they are confused,
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feeling out of place, not only in their schools and with their peers,
but also in their own bodies.
And it is leading them down what ends up being an irreversible road for a lot
of kids who end up transitioning.
And on top of this, within the schools, you have the state legislature that
is passing laws, for example, to emancipate minors at age 12.
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So that if a 12-year-old child says, I don't want to be with my parents because
they do not affirm my gender, I'm confused.
The state will say, okay, you can separate yourself from your parents.
We will put you in public housing, halfway houses, and you can be away from your parents.
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And these are not just children within the state.
If you are a child in Idaho or Oklahoma and you say, okay, I'm 12 years old
and my parents just don't understand
me you can run away from home come to california tell the authorities,
i am 12 and i want to be away from my parents because they don't affirm me and then the state.
House you in public housing. And yet another law has been passed that says if
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a child changes his or her gender and adopts a new identity,
that new gender, that new identity are sealed.
So a child can come to California at age 12, a runaway, change name,
gender, et cetera, get a completely new identity.
And the law will isolate that child and lawfully not tell the parents where
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that child is. That child could effectively disappear and that would be completely
legal under current California law.
So those are some of the appalling policies that we're having to deal with here,
not just in California 30, but the entire state of California.
Well, that is flabbergasting.
Flabbergasting, yes. I mean, do you remember when we were younger,
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they would say, oh, you're going to end up on the back of a milk carton, right?
That was the joke where you'd run away from home and your Your parents would
be sick, and they would call the authorities, and then you would end up at a
milk carton, and if somebody found you, they would reunite you with your parents.
That is no longer the case. If somebody finds you, and you're a 12-year-old
child, and you've run away from home, you say, I don't want to be with my parents.
They made me do my homework. They don't understand me. And the state will say,
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okay, we'll accept your word, and we'll tell your parents that, yeah, you're not here.
Which is crazy. That is so crazy. And we all know that the child protective services,
the foster care system, there's so many bad things that can happen to kids,
especially when you lose a paper trail on them and they can end up being trafficked.
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And then you've got all this gender affirming care stuff.
And then they're like, hey, let's pay for your surgery also. Right.
Paying for the surgery. And it's not just that. Again, they are encouraging separation.
So there is a law also that compels judges in child custody court to award custody
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of a child to the parent that affirms that child's gender.
There is a pretty well-known case right now going on with Adam Vina,
who is a parent, a gentleman who lives here in L.A.
County, and his estranged wife has absconded with his boy, who she now identifies
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as a girl, and he's trying to get custody of that child.
But under current California law, because he would not recognize his trans daughter
as such, the court would be compelled not to award him custody.
In addition, you know, you had said the foster system, California law currently
prevents parents from adopting a child if they do not automatically affirm the gender of a child.
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So your eight year old who clearly knows everything in the world says,
OK, I feel like a girl today. And if you tell the adoption agencies,
no, I wouldn't take that child at face value, they would say,
okay, you're unfit to be a parent. We're not going to allow you to adopt.
So I don't understand the reasoning behind any of these laws.
I've tried to think about it from the standpoint of these elected officials
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like Scott Weiner who are proposing these laws. And I'm thinking,
what exactly was going to this guy's mind?
What exactly was the good that he thought was going to come out of this?
I try to figure that out, and I cannot for the life of me figure that out.
Yeah, Scott Wiener is a very questionable individual. What in the world would
we do with a gender-fluid youth?
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Just like you said, I feel like a girl today.
I feel like a helicopter in the morning, and I feel like a furry for lunch,
and then I'm going to be a they-them for dinner.
And a parent would literally have to
affirm all of that nonsense to be
really like affirming the child's gender
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identity what could be more insane i mean that's that's what you would do i
with older generation parents or our parents a child says something you say
that's nice dear and then you pat them on the head and you turn around and then
whatever fantasy that they had for the day that they were a superhero or a unicorn
or a horse galloping around,
they would just kind of work that out and the next day would be something different.
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And that was a part of childhood.
These bleeding identities, discovering life,
being imaginative, and now somehow being imaginative, which is a normal part
of growing up and kind of getting your bearings in life, is being taken at face value.
And we are being told to play along with these children's delusions,
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for lack of a better word.
And most times, these statements that they have are just that imaginative,
figuring out the world, adopting these identities and storytelling.
Storytelling, but sometimes they can also be part of an underlying mental illness.
If a child is depressed, anxious, and doesn't like how they feel,
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then that manifests not only as, oh, I want to be out of this situation,
but the most extreme case of that is I want to be out of me,
my identity right now, because I'm so unhappy with what's going on.
And rather than affirming that desire to leave one's identity,
which can be gender identity disorder, or the most extreme case of that is I
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want to leave my identity, therefore I'm going to kill myself and end my life,
those should be talked about.
The symptom, which is the gender identity disorder, shouldn't be taken at face value.
You there should be a deeper dive as to okay what are the social emotional sometimes physical traumas.
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That are happening to this child that then manifest on
the surface as this desire to change one's identity or situation and that is
what i feel is lacking is we need to be talking more to these children we need
to be talking to them more in conjunction with their parents who are not only
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going to be their decision-making guardians,
but also might be the source of the trauma.
I'm not saying that these parents are intentionally traumatizing the children,
but if two parents are arguing because their marriage is on the rocks,
they love their child, but the child translates that argument between mom and dad as,
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oh, they're arguing over me because I did something bad.
Then that child says, okay, I feel unhappy.
I wish I could change I wish I could change myself.
Voila, there you have the gender identity disorder. So I think somebody needs
to put the brakes on this exuberant gender affirming care model that somehow
rooted itself in today's medicine standards and just talk it out,
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let everything simmer down,
and try to find the most benign path forward that has the fewest side effects
that can still help the child.
I think this is a good time to actually fill in a missing piece that I may have
left out for the audience, because we're not just talking to Alex Bilecki, and we're talking to Dr.
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Alex Bilecki, an MD here. So you are a medical professional who knows what you're
talking about, and you know that these conditions are being mishandled.
And really we've got medicine being weaponized
and in a certain way here where like
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you're saying instead of like hey let's find out if there's an underlying autism
if there's underlying trauma was this child you know molested or verbally or
physically abused in some way and we're not asking those questions and we're
jumping to these conclusions.
Correct. And I will start by saying the naysayers, this loud,
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vocal, fringe minority of trans activists out there who say,
oh, he doesn't know anything.
He's a lung specialist. He's an intensive care specialist.
He's not a psychiatrist. psychiatrist the my opinions
everything that i express those are medical data
so there is a diagnosis code by the american
medical association f64.0 gender
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identity disorder there is a diagnosis code family
from the american psychiatric association 302 so
these are diagnosis codes that people who
are board certified in psychiatry have
come up with and also more importantly the
dsm-5 the diagnostic criteria for psychiatric
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conditions they are meant to
be used by non psychiatrists why because there aren't possibly as many psychiatrists
as you would need to diagnose evaluate people so they have intentionally made
these easy to use criteria that anybody can use for the initial screen,
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a social worker, a case manager, a cop on the street, for example.
Anybody can use these clear, simple criteria to trigger a deeper diagnostic evaluation.
And so that is why, even though I am not quote unquote a psychiatrist,
the psychiatrists in order to expand mental health treatment to as many people
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as possible have made it simple enough so that a non-psychiatrist can trigger.
That initial evaluation that then goes to,
you know, licensed, certified people.
So that is, sorry. No, no, continue.
So that is one thing that I want to say out there is even though I'm not a quote
unquote psychiatrist, you don't have to be one to initiate a diagnostic evaluation.
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Second, and this is more important, again, the naysayers with the parental rights
movement, for example, in Glendale.
So I'm born and raised in Glendale. Glendale was one of the epicenters of protests
against schools that indoctrinate children, teach them social justice rather
than reading, writing and math.
And they very quickly dismissed these parents as white nationalists, as homophobes.
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And that is where I come in, because I can speak to this as a physician with
objective, calm diagnostic criteria.
I can also speak to this as a gay man.
I am not a homophobe, neither is my husband. So when I say that I was a closeted
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student and I am successful because my teachers were fixated on supporting my IQ, not my identity,
I can say that reading, writing, and math is what is going to lead these children to be smart, talented.
Employed individuals who are happy with their lives.
Lives and you don't need to be discussing, especially in schools that don't
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have adequate math or reading proficiency. You don't need to be discussing any
other topics in class until you've actually got the basics down.
So that is why, how I've used my chops, so to speak, to speak about these issues
that the parents are very fired up about, but they get unfairly dismissed as
homophobes, racists, white nationalists, et cetera.
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Wow. Well, you know, one of the things I appreciate you saying is that when
it comes to the psychiatric conditions as outlined,
outlined in the DSM-5 and how it really is there to make accessible this,
you know, high level information to the everyday person, you know,
so many people will say things like,
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You're not gay, so you don't know. You're not a doctor, so you don't know.
You're not a parent, so you don't know.
And the thing is, we need to be able to know that we can know and know the ways and means of knowing.
But a lot of times people just themselves, especially these people who are disputing
this whole thing, they don't know anything about this because they don't believe
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in their ability to comprehend.
Only an expert can tell me. They can't think for themselves.
Precisely. and that's why i want to demystify this
i want to simplify it i want to speak in simple terms to
people and communicate with them that this is a very
emotionally fraught time not only for the children but also for their parents
and if we deal with this clearly if we deal with this in measured fashion not
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rushing anything then we can get this done and again i try to keep a very
even keel to my tone of voice and how I speak because the other side,
this vocal fringe minority that I'm talking about, which includes my opponent in this race,
proud progressive Laura Friedman, the first email that she sent out after we
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had both qualified for the general election was a fundraising email saying,
let me introduce you to extremist Alex Bileckian,
who is endorsed by far-right extremist group Gays Against Groomers,
and she calls me anti-LGBTQ.
And I think to myself, who's the extremist who is passing these laws that isolate
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children from their parents,
who is rushing down this
course of gender-affirming care that
has been shown in reviews by the nhs to
be based on zero data and i
also tell people you know there's the butt of a joke you tell somebody
oh i'm going to give you a lobotomy a frontal lobotomy in the
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past in the 30s 40s 50s depressed people
were operated on and they underwent a frontal lobotomy in the
hopes that they could be cured now a surgery for
depression has been relegated to the punchline of of
a joke and there are no surgical there
are no psychiatric conditions that are treated with surgery with the
exception of gender dysphoria and especially
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in kids which is treated with irreversible surgeries irreversible puberty
blockers so i find it laughable that this
vocal fringe minority is calling us the extremists
when all we want to do is say hang on a minute it slow down are these irreversible
moves that we're making rooted in any sort of data are do we have data to fall
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back on if not why don't we study it why don't we take things slowly yet we're
the ones being called extremists.
Yeah. Wow. And I love that point. First off, I do want to say Gaze Against Rumors
absolutely endorses you.
And just talking and listening to you, I think the world can see why.
Because you're amazing. Thank you. You know what's going on. Absolutely.
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And we also do have this process of let's treat your temporary condition with a permanent solution.
Let's contort your body to fit your mental condition today.
Precisely. You're never going to grow out of it. And, you know,
they're just recently a long term study over 25 years from the Netherlands,
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you know, the Dutch who pioneered care for gender dysphoria.
And they had adolescents who were completing surveys sequentially from the age
of 11 all the way to at least 26.
And what they found was the same children who had gender dysphoria when they were younger.
Very few of them, I think something like only 4% actually had any gender identity
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disorder by the time they were in their 20s.
Understandably so, because the raging hormones of puberty had finally leveled themselves out.
And these people who had these
again very emotionally fraught times as adolescents and your teenage years in
school are when they finally became adults who are comfortable in their own
skin turns out lo and behold their gender identity disorder went away the most
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concerning part is the ones that had it that four percent were almost entirely.
Homosexual women with coexisting mental illness. So they were lesbians with
depression, anxiety, what have you.
And that is what I never thought of it this way until somebody said,
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gender affirming care is the 21st century version of conversion therapy,
where they're transing the gay away.
And I thought to myself, yeah, when I was four or five years old,
I had a Miss Piggy doll and i would comb
and braid her hair and you know
looking back at it my parents that was should have probably been
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an early warning sign that their son was going to be gay but if somebody a
teacher now had seen me combing and braiding miss piggy's hair would that teacher
have come to me and say alex how do you feel today do you feel like you might
be a girl because girls do this i might have been transed who knows yeah likewise
i would have definitely fallen into the,
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the whole gender ideology, the queerisms, something I identified as asexual
for a while, even before this thing was happening.
And that was built out of insecurity.
And of course, I grew out of that. I realized that I am just what I am. I'm just as right.
So what do we think about, because there's a lot we can say on that,
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and I want to put a pin in that.
What do you think about the kind of education that we've got?
We've got essentially pornographic books, it's cartoon pornography,
fine, but it's, it really is pornography nonetheless, and it's in the schools
and it is perpetuating this social contagion of sorts.
And so what we're seeing is kids are, like you said, the teachers are talking
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to them about it and then they're getting literature that's saying,
Hey, you know, maybe this is, this is the way you should go.
And they don't want the parents reading it at the school board meetings.
I agree completely. So somebody told me, and I agree with this,
schools are there for academic excellence.
And you leave it to the parents to address everything else. For example,
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having their children be good, respectful citizens and responsible adults.
But schools, first and foremost, should be there for academic excellence.
And me as a math and science nerd, I will tell you, before anything,
schools should focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic.
And if they are not performing at a minimally acceptable level,
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then other topics should not be covered.
When I say should not be covered, sure, you should have music,
you should have art, but you should not be spending time on things like discussing
gender identity, gender fluidity, how you feel about yourself today.
Those kinds of things should not occupy time if your students aren't learning
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the basic building blocks of education, of building marketable job skills.
And the example that I give is in California in 2022, tech companies applied
for and received 40,000 foreign worker visas because they couldn't recruit that talent at home.
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Do you think we have 40,000 graduating seniors every year in California?
Absolutely we do. But why is it that tech companies are having to recruit people
from foreign countries if their domestic people, our children,
aren't learning the basic stuff?
So first and foremost, schools should be there for academic excellence.
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Now, when you're talking about books.
The more I look into it, I think social media is the vehicle with which this
social contagion of mental illness has been able to spread.
I think it's easily too easily accessible for children.
And I think they are accessing it in the absence of their parents.
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I mean, when we were younger, right, maybe you'd find a playboy in your dad's cap,
you know, in one of your dad's piles of books or things like buried in the back,
and then you'd look at it and then you'd have to hide it away because if your parents caught
you there would be hell to pay that is no longer the case
this is now freely available do i
think that we should ban tiktok no i
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think that government banning is is bad it makes us look like china but i think
more parental involvement parental controls we should partner with tech companies
where you have you know the the phones with parental controls and only the parent
can you know let the the child surf whatever websites that they want to surf.
Similar concept in schools where there are schools, I think it was in Connecticut,
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where as soon as the children go in, they are given a pouch and their telephone
is sealed in this pouch and they don't have access to it until the end of the school day.
And everybody was hemming and hawing, but then a wonderful thing happened.
Children were less distracted.
They participated more in their classes and they were more engaged.
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And so I think, again, Again, teachers are unfairly caught in the crossfire
between school, between unions.
Teachers unions who have this agenda that they form with this elected officials
in the state versus what the parents want for their kids, which is a quality education.
Let me handle the rest, right? I'm not a math teacher, science teacher.
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You guys handle that. But I want to teach my child to be a good citizen.
And so when they say extraneous things, these books, whatnot,
I think that the average teacher probably would be okay with the parents and
say, okay, so this questionable material we're going to have in the young adult section that's over 17.
So if you're only a senior in high school, then you can access it,
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but then everybody else cannot access it.
And the children can access it, for example, if their parents sign off on a form.
So you want the true answer lies somewhere in the middle where if there are
very liberal-minded parents who want their children to access whatever they want to access, fine.
Fine, have that content be in a specific part of the school library that is under protection,
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where you have a library knowing who goes in and out, and then the liberal parents
of these children that they want emancipated, fine, have them sign off an authorization
where the child can go into that special section, read the books that they want to do.
And that way, both sets of parents, the ones who want to keep a tight hold on
their kids, a tight ship, versus the ones who want to have their kids have a
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laissez-faire attitude, both sets of parents can be pleased.
Yeah, yeah, that's a great, that's
a great idea. And that's really a very functional way to handle this.
You know, and I think you raised the more important, the more important point
isn't even necessarily a book that is just sitting there on the shelf,
just resting people to pass by until somebody happens.
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Maybe to pick it up and seeing questionable material, but it really is what's
being funneled directly to them by a social media, by a tick tock.
And at some level like you said you
know we really perhaps don't want to see censorship because
it's kind of that goes both ways you know
it's like oh you censored this then we get to censor that and it just it's
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not a slippery slope it's a slippery slope i know that
there is some consideration in some places about the
use of tiktok under a certain age or you know
because of china's involvement with the app maybe that's a
totally different national security issue you but especially
when it comes to parental involvement there is
i think at the same time the risk though that
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you know parents a unless they're
like you know looking over their child's shoulder while
they're on their phone which of course they're not because they're looking at their own phone yeah
you know they can't it's more or
less impossible to manage that kind of content that's coming
through and even with parental controls it would
still have an issue of these tech companies agreeing
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that trans content is inappropriate
for kids because a lot of them feel like
they need to see that it's healthy i mean the i think this is where you can
partner with tech companies again i said things of the sort where you have parental
controls where parents automatically get a notification for example ideally
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in an ideal world i was i was having Having this conversation yesterday at a dinner party.
The couple sitting next to me had five kids and the husband,
you know, ran the ran a business and the wife was a stay at home mom.
And they said, oh, we don't have any help with nurses, you know,
night nurses, et cetera.
And she said it was a full time job for. And I said, my grandmother raised nine kids.
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And, you know, this was back in the old country, raised nine kids.
You know, how did she end up doing?
And she still worked the bakery with my grandfather, because you just let your
kids run around in the street and you let them run around and play.
And there was this innocence and this self-reliance on children where,
you know, how much trouble could they possibly get in because they're just down
the streets versus now you have a child who's connected to the universe,
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strangers on the universe, with anonymity who are talking to people,
As children do innocently, but the other person on the other end is a bad actor, a groomer, right?
Who's going to establish trust, who's going to isolate that child.
So I feel bad for parents because there's a lot of supervision involved because
this is not like you and I were playing in the streets and we wouldn't go cross
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the, you know, the crosswalk to the other street.
This child is on the other side of the world with that phone.
And I think, again, if tech companies partnered with parents that they made
a product that parents said, oh, my gosh, this is a good way that I can reconcile
having my child be connected, but not be connected to the other side of the universe.
Or if it's simply a matter of, you know, I want to be able to reach my child
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to know what they're doing, fine, then get a smartwatch, for example,
that doesn't have surfing capabilities,
but a child can basically like a two-way walkie-talkie, for example,
communicate immediately with their parents.
The parents have a GPS system. They know exactly where their child is.
So something of that sort.
I think that rather than using a sledgehammer approach where we say,
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okay, we're going to muzzle social media and we're going to muzzle these tech companies.
I think if you said, look, here is this need that parents have and necessity
being the mother of invention.
If tech companies then invent new services or new gadgets where parents can
survey their kids, kids can still have freedom to move about the cabin to explore
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their innocence, but they got the bumpers on.
I think that would be the best way. That's how I would prefer to do it.
Absolutely. We can benefit from innovation. We've never had these problems before.
So we need to look at solutions that have never needed to have existed before.
What are you finding on the political scene,
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the biggest issues there in California with regards to laws which the parents
are pushing back against and those laws which are kind of coming down the pipes
in order to further this queer theory, trans ideology? Yeah.
So one of the biggest pushbacks, and this is a great example,
SB-596, which we call the Parent Silencing Act.
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So SB-596 was written by State Senator Anthony Portantino, who represents the
district where I live, who is actually one of the people running against me.
And he wrote this law, this bill, which passed but was vetoed by Governor Newsom.
And he wrote this bill as a direct response and to placate the teachers unions
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in response to the school board protests that kicked off in Glendale for the
parents were protesting the indoctrination of their children.
So that was that was in June of 2023. And shortly thereafter,
he introduced this bill, SB 596.
And what it would do is it would penalize parents with a misdemeanor charge
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and a $1,000 fine if they, and I quote, caused alarm,
annoyance, or emotional distress in school, you know, school administrators.
That is a very vague, very low bar. And this isn't something that they just
say during a school meeting.
This is if you, for example, make a social media comment and say,
I think these school board members are idiots for passing this.
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And if that school board member feels annoyed, they can trigger this law,
which then brands you with a misdemeanor charge and a $1,000 fine.
Thankfully, this was vetoed by Gavin Newsom.
But because he passed this law, which crossed the parents, my campaign, we hammered it.
We hammered it hard and we toppled him. And that was his fatal flaw. law.
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So other laws that are there are, for example, these laws that allow children,
boys, boys who identify as girls to participate in girls sports,
to change in girls locker rooms, because you are placating that single boy over
the objections and protestations of the dozens of girls who don't want to be
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in the same changing room or in the same pool with that boy.
There is a right now ballot proposition where we're gathering signatures for.
Erin friday and our duty they are leading that charge to not only bar you know
boys from playing in girl sports and vice versa but also to bar gender affirming
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care hormonal therapy and,
surgeries for children under under the age of 18 and so these are the kinds
of laws that parents are pushing back against there is also oh my gosh i can't
even comprehend this so we have a three Three strikes law in California,
where if you have three felonies, then you are put away for life, life in prison.
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Recently or, you know, during the last couple of decades, they rearranged or
rethought some of those felonies because people were, for example,
stealing a candy bar and that was their third strike.
So they said, OK, there are serious crimes there, you know, non-serious crimes
that you can get worse judgments for.
A non-serious crime is sex trafficking of a minor.
That is a non-serious crime. And so parents wanted to say, OK,
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sex trafficking of a minor is a serious crime.
God, why would that be at all up for discussion?
And our state legislature voted that down. So you can sex traffic a 16 or 17
year old, and that is not considered a serious crime.
And how exactly that bill was killed is beyond me.
But those are the kinds of bills, in addition to the 12-year-old emancipation
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law, in addition to, as I said, the children who their identities affirmed that
they can go practice on the other team, the opposite sex.
Those are the kinds of laws that parents are trying to push back on.
That is that last thing you were saying. So astonishing. Like what could possibly be worse?
What is going on with these politicians? What vested interest do they have in
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the continuation of child trafficking?
And there is also the one law that we were talking about Scott Wiener earlier.
And this is no joke. So Scott, there are laws registered as a sex offender.
So if a man has vaginal sex.
So if a 24-year-old man has vaginal sex with a 14-year-old girl and he is being
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charged, it is up to the judge to determine whether that man has to register
as a sex offender. It is not a slam dunk.
So there's that loophole in the law where a 24-year-old man can have vaginal
sex with a 14-year-old girl and not automatically have to register as a sex
offender once he gets convicted. it.
Scott Wiener, in all of his wisdom, sees this loophole.
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And what would a reasonable person do? They would say, OK, I'm going to close this loophole.
No, Scott Wiener says, oh, well, turns out gay men don't have this.
So I'm going to write it where if a 24 year old man has anal sex with a 14 year
old boy and he gets convicted rather than being forcibly listed as a sex offender, which is the law now,
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I'm going to change it so that it's up to the judge's decision.
Whether or not to have him registered as a sex offender. And I'm thinking any
reasonable person would not have created a second loophole for a gay man.
He would have closed the loophole for the straight man.
And these are the kinds of geniuses that we're dealing with in Sacramento and
who want to go to Washington on our behalf.
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Well, you know, gay rights, right?
You've noticed this, right? I mean, I've noticed people being less open,
less sympathetic to gays.
I've noticed an uptick in homophobia through no fault of our own.
I just think that this entire trans ideology making this power grab has dragged
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down not only them, but also us, gays in the community who don't have any qualms about our identity.
We know exactly what our gender identity is. We just are attracted to one of
the two different sexes,
but we only believe that there are two sexes so i feel that this
is personally how my husband and i
have suffered is that i found that
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a lot more people are being less tolerant of gays as a result of the loud vocal
fringe trans ideology absolutely and with people like scott weiner running around
doing this sort of thing who can blame them like yeah our silence you know i
don't want to use that That old, you know, silence is violence,
but this is like tacit agreement.
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It is. Now, if you're a gay person, or even if you're a straight person who
just, you know, as a supporter of the gay community, you have to be able to
put your foot down on these types of issues and to call a thing a thing.
And this is just, it's obscene because it really is bringing to the forefront
the whole obvious advocation for the whole maps community.
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Community minor attracted persons aka
pedophiles aka groomers and so
if we just gonna like start letting that
happen like that's the dark the dark tinge of the future because this is just
going to be something happens it is but and also the silver lining that i found
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to this being involved in all of this is with the armenian community so i'm
going to be honest right the The Armenian community is a very traditional immigrant community,
very hesitant to be accepting of homosexuals.
I'll say homophobic.
Right. I grew up in a homophobic household.
What I found, though, is that because I, as a gay man.
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Speaking it not as a gay man, but as a reasonable person saying that this isolation
of children driving a wedge between their parents,
teaching them topics that are better taught in the home with the supervision
of their parents and just leaving usual topics to schools.
When I speak out about that as a gay man, I have found that there has been a
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remarkable change in the tone.
Not that Armenians are suddenly going to be waving pride flags,
rainbow flags in their home, but they have started respecting me as a gay person.
And I have garnered their respect because I'm standing with them shoulder to
shoulder, speaking out about things that you don't need to be gay or straight
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about saying, okay, these are children. They are innocent.
They need to be taught to be responsible adults. And there is a good way and a bad way of doing that.
And we should just leave most of that to the parents and let them discover things on their own.
So that has been a good silver lining that I found with this whole dark tone that things have taken.
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Yeah, you know, we do really find ourselves in a higher moral ground when we
break away from the sheet mentality of saying, oh, this is what the gays are doing.
So this is what I'm doing. This is what we're doing.
And thinking for ourselves, it's not too common right now.
Now, why is it that it seems there is a kind of silent majority,
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even among the gay community, of people who will tell you face to face,
like, this is wrong, what's happening.
But at the same time, they're going to go back into these very progressive woke
circles and, you know, continue about, you know, that not so much even the lifestyle,
so to speak, but the sharing of the ideology with these people and not realizing that they are part of.
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This apparent monolithic group of people who support this.
You can substitute any word. So gay community, Armenian community,
Latin community, Korean community.
What I found when I talk to people, one of the first and most common statements
that comes out of people's mouths when I tell them I'm running for Congress
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is, oh, I'm not political.
And they don't want to get mired in things. They just want to live their lives
and, you know, work their jobs and earn their money and live their American dream.
And they just don't want to get caught up in the drama.
And I privately within the confines of their own homes, of course,
people will show you who they are and they will talk openly.
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But out on the street, it used to be that we were respectful neighbors.
And even if you disagreed with somebody, you would just kind of state that.
But it wouldn't be this heated argument about most things. However,
the far left progressives, and I'm going to say this, there is an epidemic of mental illness.
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Many or most of the far left progressives that I've met suffer from adjustment disorder. Disorder.
Adjustment disorder is a condition, not life threatening, doesn't require medications,
but adjustment disorder is an exaggerated response to a stimulus that any other
individual would react normally to.
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So this is when people fly off the handle. For example, Trump derangement syndrome.
You say Trump and then people just start foaming at the mouth.
Yes, I get it. The guy shoots his mouth off.
The guy can be a petulant child. I get it. But some people, when you mention
Trump, they just completely start yelling and foaming at the mouth.
That is adjustment disorder.
So when we say that children who have gender identity disorder,
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maybe they actually have anxiety, depression, autism, and we shouldn't really
be affirming their care. What do you mean they know what they're talking about?
This is what you're doing. You're trying to erase their identity.
And then they just fly off the handle. So I understand how.
You know, gays and lesbians who privately say, I think these kids are just confused
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and they're going to grow up as gay.
And you shouldn't really try to convince an effeminate boy that he's a girl
or a tomboy that she's a boy.
But when they go out in public and they encounter these far left progressives
who have adjustment disorder, who are going to fly off the handle,
if you say anything different from them, they say it's not worth the drama.
So I'm not going to speak up. And can you honestly blame them.
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No, exactly. That is what happens if you are in the midst of an intimidating
mob of people and you are like a steak amongst a pack of hungry wolves when
you take a position like this amongst so many emotionally charged people.
So I actually want to correct you on that. It's not a pack of wolves.
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It's a handful of people. And this is what we found on social media.
It's the same half a dozen people who are making these frequent,
all caps comments calling fascist and racist and all those things.
It is a vocal fringe minority fringe.
They're on the outskirts at best 10%. So what I want to remind people over there
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is this is not a, they are not numerous. They are simply loud.
And the decibels, yes, are numerous, but the people themselves are not.
And it's simply a matter of asserting yourself because there is not an army behind this one person.
It's just that one person and the six people that they talk to when they go home.
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And so if we, the 80% of us in the middle, the moderate middle,
as I call it, if we simply make ourselves known, you would be surprised how
much support there is among your brethren.
No, that's a very important point. You're correct. It is a small minority of
people who really feel strongly about this.
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I do believe there is a silent majority, on the other hand,
in public spaces in particular, where people are not able or willing to speak
up because they're afraid of that minority and maybe the followers who are too afraid to say,
why are you attacking him?
He's actually right. It really does create at least a sense of a mob mentality,
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even if the people who were standing by silently are actually disagreeing in their heart.
And so that's why I think it's so important that we each individually learn
to speak up, to have a backbone,
to say amongst our friends when they're all going ham in on somebody that,
wait a second, there is a good point here.
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That is illogical. and that is
powerful enough to turn the tide within their group also and precisely and what
i've learned is and we're trying to document this by recording these interactions
that i have with these people with adjustment disorder is where when i respond
and i speak slowly calmly quietly.
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And the person in front of me is yelling and they're just doing this and then
people see okay okay, who am I identifying more clearly with the calm,
cool, collected person or this other person who's flying off the handle?
And I think that not only attracts people to your end, but also gives us credibility
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that we are the calm people, the reasonable people, the rational people who
are thinking this through.
And I think that's what's going to allow us to win it in the end.
Well, of course, that's easy for you to say, sir, because you're on the side of truth.
And when you have truth on your side, it's very easy to be confident.
And when you don't know what you're talking about, you have to scurry about
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and change the subject and shift and play the game in order to try to create
the appearance of winning the argument. And I think that's what it comes down to.
Yeah. And if we're going to change the argument, I suggest maybe the Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills, something of that nature, some sort of Bravo show so that
everybody can actually discuss it and agree and just about some mindless topic.
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That's, that's, that's my, that's my go-to if the, uh, if the discussion becomes
too heated and I deflected to a different topic.
Absolutely. Yeah, we can just start flipping tables.
Well, we've got a few minutes left and I want to know, first off,
will you share some of your social media contact points? Yes.
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So we are on social media. I encourage people to come visit us.
Our website is alexforca30.com, A-L-E-X-F-O-R-C-A-30.com.
And I have short form essays. We have some of the videos that we've posted.
We also have our Instagram page.
That is Alex for CA30.
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And we post there a couple of times a week. And I use that as a sounding board
to discuss current topics.
So the more recent newsworthy events will be over there.
We also have our YouTube page, Alex for CA30, where you can find all of our
videos. Also, we do have a podcast.
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It's called Enough Talk with Alex Bileckian, and we have at least half a dozen
videos on there. Those are about 30 to 45 minutes long.
Again, Enough Talk with Alex Bileckian, where rather than having soundbites
of 90 seconds, we have these longer form conversations where we can get deeper
into the issues just like you and I are doing right now.
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I also have my Twitter X account.
That is Alex Baleckian, A-L-E-X-B-A-L-E-K-I-A-N.
So we are on a variety. And thankfully, I have a not so common last name.
So if you put Alex Baleckian in the Google, it'll show all of our different
social media platforms.
Excellent. Well, Congressional District 30 is lucky to have you running for
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your state house position.
We've got Dr. Alex Bileckian, MD, on the scene.
He's rocking it out. I'm so glad that you're out there.
I hope that you continue to share your message and your angle,
your calm, collected demeanor, and you actually are fighting that fight.
You're getting in there. politics is ugly people don't
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want to get involved but if we don't then
what happens is we're ruled by people more
ignorant than ourselves isn't that what plato said or somebody he
he did and i i also want to thank you and also gaze against groomers for endorsing
me for you know propagating me to your followers i am very very appreciative
this is not a solo project so i'm i'm in i have deep Deep gratitude for you
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all for endorsing me and also spreading the word to your listeners.
We appreciate that very much. People like you are the tip of the sphere here, the sphere, the spear.
So, yeah, we're going to look forward to following up with you.
Hopefully you can come back on and anything you want to discuss in the future with us.
I would love that. Bring it on the show. Thank you very much.
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Welcome to the dark side of the rainbow today we have a special guest who's
running for an important seat in California.
And this is Alex Malekian. And he is, among other things, fighting for the protection
of parents' rights, for the protection of children.
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And that's the kind of leadership that we need on the political scene right
now. How are you doing, Alex?
I'm good, Robert. Thank you for having me on today. Appreciate it.
That's a pleasure and an honor to have you.
So can you give us some background about some of of the main challenges that
you're facing in California's District 30 right now regarding parental rights
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being a challenge and the kind of things that are happening to the children?
So yeah, so I am a physician born and raised in Glendale, practicing in Glendale,
which is part of District 30.
So this is my hometown right now. It is represented by Adam Schiff in Congress,
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and he's running for Dianne Feinstein's seat.
So I know this city. I know this district. It's like the back of my hand. I went to school here.
And things have definitely changed in the 45 years that I've been here.
Not just in parents' rights, but also in the state and how physicians,
my colleagues, are treating children not in the best interests of the children or their parents.
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We have a few matters. Number one would be in schools where children are being
taught more social justice than the usual reading, writing, and arithmetic that
we were taught to have marketable job skills.
In addition to that, there has been a wedge that has been driven between parents
and their children by teachers who are unfortunately caught in the middle by
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state laws that are trying to, quote unquote,
affirm the gender identity of children.
But instead, what they do is isolate them from their parents and lead them on
a path that these children don't entirely understand, but appears palatable
to them because they are confused,
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feeling out of place, not only in their schools and with their peers,
but also in their own bodies.
And it is leading them down what ends up being an irreversible road for a lot
of kids who end up transitioning.
And on top of this, within the schools, you have the state legislature that
is passing laws, for example, to emancipate minors at age 12.
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So that if a 12-year-old child says, I don't want to be with my parents because
they do not affirm my gender, I'm confused.
The state will say, okay, you can separate yourself from your parents.
We will put you in public housing, halfway houses, and you can be away from your parents.
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And these are not just children within the state.
If you are a child in Idaho or Oklahoma and you say, okay, I'm 12 years old
and my parents just don't understand
me you can run away from home come to california tell the authorities,
i am 12 and i want to be away from my parents because they don't affirm me and then the state.
House you in public housing. And yet another law has been passed that says if
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a child changes his or her gender and adopts a new identity,
that new gender, that new identity are sealed.
So a child can come to California at age 12, a runaway, change name,
gender, et cetera, get a completely new identity.
And the law will isolate that child and lawfully not tell the parents where
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that child is. That child could effectively disappear and that would be completely
legal under current California law.
So those are some of the appalling policies that we're having to deal with here,
not just in California 30, but the entire state of California.
Well, that is flabbergasting.
Flabbergasting, yes. I mean, do you remember when we were younger,
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they would say, oh, you're going to end up on the back of a milk carton, right?
That was the joke where you'd run away from home and your Your parents would
be sick, and they would call the authorities, and then you would end up at a
milk carton, and if somebody found you, they would reunite you with your parents.
That is no longer the case. If somebody finds you, and you're a 12-year-old
child, and you've run away from home, you say, I don't want to be with my parents.
They made me do my homework. They don't understand me. And the state will say,
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okay, we'll accept your word, and we'll tell your parents that, yeah, you're not here.
Which is crazy. That is so crazy. And we all know that the child protective services,
the foster care system, there's so many bad things that can happen to kids,
especially when you lose a paper trail on them and they can end up being trafficked.
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And then you've got all this gender affirming care stuff.
And then they're like, hey, let's pay for your surgery also. Right.
Paying for the surgery. And it's not just that. Again, they are encouraging separation.
So there is a law also that compels judges in child custody court to award custody
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of a child to the parent that affirms that child's gender.
There is a pretty well-known case right now going on with Adam Vina,
who is a parent, a gentleman who lives here in L.A.
County, and his estranged wife has absconded with his boy, who she now identifies
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as a girl, and he's trying to get custody of that child.
But under current California law, because he would not recognize his trans daughter
as such, the court would be compelled not to award him custody.
In addition, you know, you had said the foster system, California law currently
prevents parents from adopting a child if they do not automatically affirm the gender of a child.
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So your eight year old who clearly knows everything in the world says,
OK, I feel like a girl today. And if you tell the adoption agencies,
no, I wouldn't take that child at face value, they would say,
okay, you're unfit to be a parent. We're not going to allow you to adopt.
So I don't understand the reasoning behind any of these laws.
I've tried to think about it from the standpoint of these elected officials
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like Scott Weiner who are proposing these laws. And I'm thinking,
what exactly was going to this guy's mind?
What exactly was the good that he thought was going to come out of this?
I try to figure that out, and I cannot for the life of me figure that out.
Yeah, Scott Wiener is a very questionable individual. What in the world would
we do with a gender-fluid youth?
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Just like you said, I feel like a girl today.
I feel like a helicopter in the morning, and I feel like a furry for lunch,
and then I'm going to be a they-them for dinner.
And a parent would literally have to
affirm all of that nonsense to be
really like affirming the child's gender
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identity what could be more insane i mean that's that's what you would do i
with older generation parents or our parents a child says something you say
that's nice dear and then you pat them on the head and you turn around and then
whatever fantasy that they had for the day that they were a superhero or a unicorn
or a horse galloping around,
they would just kind of work that out and the next day would be something different.
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And that was a part of childhood.
These bleeding identities, discovering life,
being imaginative, and now somehow being imaginative, which is a normal part
of growing up and kind of getting your bearings in life, is being taken at face value.
And we are being told to play along with these children's delusions,
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for lack of a better word.
And most times, these statements that they have are just that imaginative,
figuring out the world, adopting these identities and storytelling.
Storytelling, but sometimes they can also be part of an underlying mental illness.
If a child is depressed, anxious, and doesn't like how they feel,
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then that manifests not only as, oh, I want to be out of this situation,
but the most extreme case of that is I want to be out of me,
my identity right now, because I'm so unhappy with what's going on.
And rather than affirming that desire to leave one's identity,
which can be gender identity disorder, or the most extreme case of that is I
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want to leave my identity, therefore I'm going to kill myself and end my life,
those should be talked about.
The symptom, which is the gender identity disorder, shouldn't be taken at face value.
You there should be a deeper dive as to okay what are the social emotional sometimes physical traumas.
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That are happening to this child that then manifest on
the surface as this desire to change one's identity or situation and that is
what i feel is lacking is we need to be talking more to these children we need
to be talking to them more in conjunction with their parents who are not only
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going to be their decision-making guardians,
but also might be the source of the trauma.
I'm not saying that these parents are intentionally traumatizing the children,
but if two parents are arguing because their marriage is on the rocks,
they love their child, but the child translates that argument between mom and dad as,
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oh, they're arguing over me because I did something bad.
Then that child says, okay, I feel unhappy.
I wish I could change I wish I could change myself.
Voila, there you have the gender identity disorder. So I think somebody needs
to put the brakes on this exuberant gender affirming care model that somehow
rooted itself in today's medicine standards and just talk it out,
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let everything simmer down,
and try to find the most benign path forward that has the fewest side effects
that can still help the child.
I think this is a good time to actually fill in a missing piece that I may have
left out for the audience, because we're not just talking to Alex Bilecki, and we're talking to Dr.
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Alex Bilecki, an MD here. So you are a medical professional who knows what you're
talking about, and you know that these conditions are being mishandled.
And really we've got medicine being weaponized
and in a certain way here where like
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you're saying instead of like hey let's find out if there's an underlying autism
if there's underlying trauma was this child you know molested or verbally or
physically abused in some way and we're not asking those questions and we're
jumping to these conclusions.
Correct. And I will start by saying the naysayers, this loud,
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vocal, fringe minority of trans activists out there who say,
oh, he doesn't know anything.
He's a lung specialist. He's an intensive care specialist.
He's not a psychiatrist. psychiatrist the my opinions
everything that i express those are medical data
so there is a diagnosis code by the american
medical association f64.0 gender
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identity disorder there is a diagnosis code family
from the american psychiatric association 302 so
these are diagnosis codes that people who
are board certified in psychiatry have
come up with and also more importantly the
dsm-5 the diagnostic criteria for psychiatric
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conditions they are meant to
be used by non psychiatrists why because there aren't possibly as many psychiatrists
as you would need to diagnose evaluate people so they have intentionally made
these easy to use criteria that anybody can use for the initial screen,
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a social worker, a case manager, a cop on the street, for example.
Anybody can use these clear, simple criteria to trigger a deeper diagnostic evaluation.
And so that is why, even though I am not quote unquote a psychiatrist,
the psychiatrists in order to expand mental health treatment to as many people
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as possible have made it simple enough so that a non-psychiatrist can trigger.
That initial evaluation that then goes to,
you know, licensed, certified people.
So that is, sorry. No, no, continue.
So that is one thing that I want to say out there is even though I'm not a quote
unquote psychiatrist, you don't have to be one to initiate a diagnostic evaluation.
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Second, and this is more important, again, the naysayers with the parental rights
movement, for example, in Glendale.
So I'm born and raised in Glendale. Glendale was one of the epicenters of protests
against schools that indoctrinate children, teach them social justice rather
than reading, writing and math.
And they very quickly dismissed these parents as white nationalists, as homophobes.
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And that is where I come in, because I can speak to this as a physician with
objective, calm diagnostic criteria.
I can also speak to this as a gay man.
I am not a homophobe, neither is my husband. So when I say that I was a closeted
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student and I am successful because my teachers were fixated on supporting my IQ, not my identity,
I can say that reading, writing, and math is what is going to lead these children to be smart, talented.
Employed individuals who are happy with their lives.
Lives and you don't need to be discussing, especially in schools that don't
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have adequate math or reading proficiency. You don't need to be discussing any
other topics in class until you've actually got the basics down.
So that is why, how I've used my chops, so to speak, to speak about these issues
that the parents are very fired up about, but they get unfairly dismissed as
homophobes, racists, white nationalists, et cetera.
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Wow. Well, you know, one of the things I appreciate you saying is that when
it comes to the psychiatric conditions as outlined,
outlined in the DSM-5 and how it really is there to make accessible this,
you know, high level information to the everyday person, you know,
so many people will say things like,
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You're not gay, so you don't know. You're not a doctor, so you don't know.
You're not a parent, so you don't know.
And the thing is, we need to be able to know that we can know and know the ways and means of knowing.
But a lot of times people just themselves, especially these people who are disputing
this whole thing, they don't know anything about this because they don't believe
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in their ability to comprehend.
Only an expert can tell me. They can't think for themselves.
Precisely. and that's why i want to demystify this
i want to simplify it i want to speak in simple terms to
people and communicate with them that this is a very
emotionally fraught time not only for the children but also for their parents
and if we deal with this clearly if we deal with this in measured fashion not
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rushing anything then we can get this done and again i try to keep a very
even keel to my tone of voice and how I speak because the other side,
this vocal fringe minority that I'm talking about, which includes my opponent in this race,
proud progressive Laura Friedman, the first email that she sent out after we
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had both qualified for the general election was a fundraising email saying,
let me introduce you to extremist Alex Bileckian,
who is endorsed by far-right extremist group Gays Against Groomers,
and she calls me anti-LGBTQ.
And I think to myself, who's the extremist who is passing these laws that isolate
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children from their parents,
who is rushing down this
course of gender-affirming care that
has been shown in reviews by the nhs to
be based on zero data and i
also tell people you know there's the butt of a joke you tell somebody
oh i'm going to give you a lobotomy a frontal lobotomy in the
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past in the 30s 40s 50s depressed people
were operated on and they underwent a frontal lobotomy in the
hopes that they could be cured now a surgery for
depression has been relegated to the punchline of of
a joke and there are no surgical there
are no psychiatric conditions that are treated with surgery with the
exception of gender dysphoria and especially
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in kids which is treated with irreversible surgeries irreversible puberty
blockers so i find it laughable that this
vocal fringe minority is calling us the extremists
when all we want to do is say hang on a minute it slow down are these irreversible
moves that we're making rooted in any sort of data are do we have data to fall
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back on if not why don't we study it why don't we take things slowly yet we're
the ones being called extremists.
Yeah. Wow. And I love that point. First off, I do want to say Gaze Against Rumors
absolutely endorses you.
And just talking and listening to you, I think the world can see why.
Because you're amazing. Thank you. You know what's going on. Absolutely.
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And we also do have this process of let's treat your temporary condition with a permanent solution.
Let's contort your body to fit your mental condition today.
Precisely. You're never going to grow out of it. And, you know,
they're just recently a long term study over 25 years from the Netherlands,
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you know, the Dutch who pioneered care for gender dysphoria.
And they had adolescents who were completing surveys sequentially from the age
of 11 all the way to at least 26.
And what they found was the same children who had gender dysphoria when they were younger.
Very few of them, I think something like only 4% actually had any gender identity
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disorder by the time they were in their 20s.
Understandably so, because the raging hormones of puberty had finally leveled themselves out.
And these people who had these
again very emotionally fraught times as adolescents and your teenage years in
school are when they finally became adults who are comfortable in their own
skin turns out lo and behold their gender identity disorder went away the most
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concerning part is the ones that had it that four percent were almost entirely.
Homosexual women with coexisting mental illness. So they were lesbians with
depression, anxiety, what have you.
And that is what I never thought of it this way until somebody said,
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gender affirming care is the 21st century version of conversion therapy,
where they're transing the gay away.
And I thought to myself, yeah, when I was four or five years old,
I had a Miss Piggy doll and i would comb
and braid her hair and you know
looking back at it my parents that was should have probably been
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an early warning sign that their son was going to be gay but if somebody a
teacher now had seen me combing and braiding miss piggy's hair would that teacher
have come to me and say alex how do you feel today do you feel like you might
be a girl because girls do this i might have been transed who knows yeah likewise
i would have definitely fallen into the,
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the whole gender ideology, the queerisms, something I identified as asexual
for a while, even before this thing was happening.
And that was built out of insecurity.
And of course, I grew out of that. I realized that I am just what I am. I'm just as right.
So what do we think about, because there's a lot we can say on that,
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and I want to put a pin in that.
What do you think about the kind of education that we've got?
We've got essentially pornographic books, it's cartoon pornography,
fine, but it's, it really is pornography nonetheless, and it's in the schools
and it is perpetuating this social contagion of sorts.
And so what we're seeing is kids are, like you said, the teachers are talking
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to them about it and then they're getting literature that's saying,
Hey, you know, maybe this is, this is the way you should go.
And they don't want the parents reading it at the school board meetings.
I agree completely. So somebody told me, and I agree with this,
schools are there for academic excellence.
And you leave it to the parents to address everything else. For example,
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having their children be good, respectful citizens and responsible adults.
But schools, first and foremost, should be there for academic excellence.
And me as a math and science nerd, I will tell you, before anything,
schools should focus on reading, writing, and arithmetic.
And if they are not performing at a minimally acceptable level,
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then other topics should not be covered.
When I say should not be covered, sure, you should have music,
you should have art, but you should not be spending time on things like discussing
gender identity, gender fluidity, how you feel about yourself today.
Those kinds of things should not occupy time if your students aren't learning
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the basic building blocks of education, of building marketable job skills.
And the example that I give is in California in 2022, tech companies applied
for and received 40,000 foreign worker visas because they couldn't recruit that talent at home.
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Do you think we have 40,000 graduating seniors every year in California?
Absolutely we do. But why is it that tech companies are having to recruit people
from foreign countries if their domestic people, our children,
aren't learning the basic stuff?
So first and foremost, schools should be there for academic excellence.
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Now, when you're talking about books.
The more I look into it, I think social media is the vehicle with which this
social contagion of mental illness has been able to spread.
I think it's easily too easily accessible for children.
And I think they are accessing it in the absence of their parents.
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I mean, when we were younger, right, maybe you'd find a playboy in your dad's cap,
you know, in one of your dad's piles of books or things like buried in the back,
and then you'd look at it and then you'd have to hide it away because if your parents caught
you there would be hell to pay that is no longer the case
this is now freely available do i
think that we should ban tiktok no i
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think that government banning is is bad it makes us look like china but i think
more parental involvement parental controls we should partner with tech companies
where you have you know the the phones with parental controls and only the parent
can you know let the the child surf whatever websites that they want to surf.
Similar concept in schools where there are schools, I think it was in Connecticut,
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where as soon as the children go in, they are given a pouch and their telephone
is sealed in this pouch and they don't have access to it until the end of the school day.
And everybody was hemming and hawing, but then a wonderful thing happened.
Children were less distracted.
They participated more in their classes and they were more engaged.
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And so I think, again, Again, teachers are unfairly caught in the crossfire
between school, between unions.
Teachers unions who have this agenda that they form with this elected officials
in the state versus what the parents want for their kids, which is a quality education.
Let me handle the rest, right? I'm not a math teacher, science teacher.
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You guys handle that. But I want to teach my child to be a good citizen.
And so when they say extraneous things, these books, whatnot,
I think that the average teacher probably would be okay with the parents and
say, okay, so this questionable material we're going to have in the young adult section that's over 17.
So if you're only a senior in high school, then you can access it,
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but then everybody else cannot access it.
And the children can access it, for example, if their parents sign off on a form.
So you want the true answer lies somewhere in the middle where if there are
very liberal-minded parents who want their children to access whatever they want to access, fine.
Fine, have that content be in a specific part of the school library that is under protection,
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where you have a library knowing who goes in and out, and then the liberal parents
of these children that they want emancipated, fine, have them sign off an authorization
where the child can go into that special section, read the books that they want to do.
And that way, both sets of parents, the ones who want to keep a tight hold on
their kids, a tight ship, versus the ones who want to have their kids have a
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laissez-faire attitude, both sets of parents can be pleased.
Yeah, yeah, that's a great, that's
a great idea. And that's really a very functional way to handle this.
You know, and I think you raised the more important, the more important point
isn't even necessarily a book that is just sitting there on the shelf,
just resting people to pass by until somebody happens.
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Maybe to pick it up and seeing questionable material, but it really is what's
being funneled directly to them by a social media, by a tick tock.
And at some level like you said you
know we really perhaps don't want to see censorship because
it's kind of that goes both ways you know
it's like oh you censored this then we get to censor that and it just it's
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not a slippery slope it's a slippery slope i know that
there is some consideration in some places about the
use of tiktok under a certain age or you know
because of china's involvement with the app maybe that's a
totally different national security issue you but especially
when it comes to parental involvement there is
i think at the same time the risk though that
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you know parents a unless they're
like you know looking over their child's shoulder while
they're on their phone which of course they're not because they're looking at their own phone yeah
you know they can't it's more or
less impossible to manage that kind of content that's coming
through and even with parental controls it would
still have an issue of these tech companies agreeing
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that trans content is inappropriate
for kids because a lot of them feel like
they need to see that it's healthy i mean the i think this is where you can
partner with tech companies again i said things of the sort where you have parental
controls where parents automatically get a notification for example ideally
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in an ideal world i was i was having Having this conversation yesterday at a dinner party.
The couple sitting next to me had five kids and the husband,
you know, ran the ran a business and the wife was a stay at home mom.
And they said, oh, we don't have any help with nurses, you know,
night nurses, et cetera.
And she said it was a full time job for. And I said, my grandmother raised nine kids.
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And, you know, this was back in the old country, raised nine kids.
You know, how did she end up doing?
And she still worked the bakery with my grandfather, because you just let your
kids run around in the street and you let them run around and play.
And there was this innocence and this self-reliance on children where,
you know, how much trouble could they possibly get in because they're just down
the streets versus now you have a child who's connected to the universe,
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strangers on the universe, with anonymity who are talking to people,
As children do innocently, but the other person on the other end is a bad actor, a groomer, right?
Who's going to establish trust, who's going to isolate that child.
So I feel bad for parents because there's a lot of supervision involved because
this is not like you and I were playing in the streets and we wouldn't go cross
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the, you know, the crosswalk to the other street.
This child is on the other side of the world with that phone.
And I think, again, if tech companies partnered with parents that they made
a product that parents said, oh, my gosh, this is a good way that I can reconcile
having my child be connected, but not be connected to the other side of the universe.
Or if it's simply a matter of, you know, I want to be able to reach my child
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to know what they're doing, fine, then get a smartwatch, for example,
that doesn't have surfing capabilities,
but a child can basically like a two-way walkie-talkie, for example,
communicate immediately with their parents.
The parents have a GPS system. They know exactly where their child is.
So something of that sort.
I think that rather than using a sledgehammer approach where we say,
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okay, we're going to muzzle social media and we're going to muzzle these tech companies.
I think if you said, look, here is this need that parents have and necessity
being the mother of invention.
If tech companies then invent new services or new gadgets where parents can
survey their kids, kids can still have freedom to move about the cabin to explore
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their innocence, but they got the bumpers on.
I think that would be the best way. That's how I would prefer to do it.
Absolutely. We can benefit from innovation. We've never had these problems before.
So we need to look at solutions that have never needed to have existed before.
What are you finding on the political scene,
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the biggest issues there in California with regards to laws which the parents
are pushing back against and those laws which are kind of coming down the pipes
in order to further this queer theory, trans ideology? Yeah.
So one of the biggest pushbacks, and this is a great example,
SB-596, which we call the Parent Silencing Act.
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So SB-596 was written by State Senator Anthony Portantino, who represents the
district where I live, who is actually one of the people running against me.
And he wrote this law, this bill, which passed but was vetoed by Governor Newsom.
And he wrote this bill as a direct response and to placate the teachers unions
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in response to the school board protests that kicked off in Glendale for the
parents were protesting the indoctrination of their children.
So that was that was in June of 2023. And shortly thereafter,
he introduced this bill, SB 596.
And what it would do is it would penalize parents with a misdemeanor charge
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and a $1,000 fine if they, and I quote, caused alarm,
annoyance, or emotional distress in school, you know, school administrators.
That is a very vague, very low bar. And this isn't something that they just
say during a school meeting.
This is if you, for example, make a social media comment and say,
I think these school board members are idiots for passing this.
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And if that school board member feels annoyed, they can trigger this law,
which then brands you with a misdemeanor charge and a $1,000 fine.
Thankfully, this was vetoed by Gavin Newsom.
But because he passed this law, which crossed the parents, my campaign, we hammered it.
We hammered it hard and we toppled him. And that was his fatal flaw. law.
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So other laws that are there are, for example, these laws that allow children,
boys, boys who identify as girls to participate in girls sports,
to change in girls locker rooms, because you are placating that single boy over
the objections and protestations of the dozens of girls who don't want to be
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in the same changing room or in the same pool with that boy.
There is a right now ballot proposition where we're gathering signatures for.
Erin friday and our duty they are leading that charge to not only bar you know
boys from playing in girl sports and vice versa but also to bar gender affirming
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care hormonal therapy and,
surgeries for children under under the age of 18 and so these are the kinds
of laws that parents are pushing back against there is also oh my gosh i can't
even comprehend this so we have a three Three strikes law in California,
where if you have three felonies, then you are put away for life, life in prison.
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Recently or, you know, during the last couple of decades, they rearranged or
rethought some of those felonies because people were, for example,
stealing a candy bar and that was their third strike.
So they said, OK, there are serious crimes there, you know, non-serious crimes
that you can get worse judgments for.
A non-serious crime is sex trafficking of a minor.
That is a non-serious crime. And so parents wanted to say, OK,
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sex trafficking of a minor is a serious crime.
God, why would that be at all up for discussion?
And our state legislature voted that down. So you can sex traffic a 16 or 17
year old, and that is not considered a serious crime.
And how exactly that bill was killed is beyond me.
But those are the kinds of bills, in addition to the 12-year-old emancipation
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law, in addition to, as I said, the children who their identities affirmed that
they can go practice on the other team, the opposite sex.
Those are the kinds of laws that parents are trying to push back on.
That is that last thing you were saying. So astonishing. Like what could possibly be worse?
What is going on with these politicians? What vested interest do they have in
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the continuation of child trafficking?
And there is also the one law that we were talking about Scott Wiener earlier.
And this is no joke. So Scott, there are laws registered as a sex offender.
So if a man has vaginal sex.
So if a 24-year-old man has vaginal sex with a 14-year-old girl and he is being
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charged, it is up to the judge to determine whether that man has to register
as a sex offender. It is not a slam dunk.
So there's that loophole in the law where a 24-year-old man can have vaginal
sex with a 14-year-old girl and not automatically have to register as a sex
offender once he gets convicted. it.
Scott Wiener, in all of his wisdom, sees this loophole.
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And what would a reasonable person do? They would say, OK, I'm going to close this loophole.
No, Scott Wiener says, oh, well, turns out gay men don't have this.
So I'm going to write it where if a 24 year old man has anal sex with a 14 year
old boy and he gets convicted rather than being forcibly listed as a sex offender, which is the law now,
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I'm going to change it so that it's up to the judge's decision.
Whether or not to have him registered as a sex offender. And I'm thinking any
reasonable person would not have created a second loophole for a gay man.
He would have closed the loophole for the straight man.
And these are the kinds of geniuses that we're dealing with in Sacramento and
who want to go to Washington on our behalf.
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Well, you know, gay rights, right?
You've noticed this, right? I mean, I've noticed people being less open,
less sympathetic to gays.
I've noticed an uptick in homophobia through no fault of our own.
I just think that this entire trans ideology making this power grab has dragged
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down not only them, but also us, gays in the community who don't have any qualms about our identity.
We know exactly what our gender identity is. We just are attracted to one of
the two different sexes,
but we only believe that there are two sexes so i feel that this
is personally how my husband and i
have suffered is that i found that
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a lot more people are being less tolerant of gays as a result of the loud vocal
fringe trans ideology absolutely and with people like scott weiner running around
doing this sort of thing who can blame them like yeah our silence you know i
don't want to use that That old, you know, silence is violence,
but this is like tacit agreement.
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It is. Now, if you're a gay person, or even if you're a straight person who
just, you know, as a supporter of the gay community, you have to be able to
put your foot down on these types of issues and to call a thing a thing.
And this is just, it's obscene because it really is bringing to the forefront
the whole obvious advocation for the whole maps community.
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Community minor attracted persons aka
pedophiles aka groomers and so
if we just gonna like start letting that
happen like that's the dark the dark tinge of the future because this is just
going to be something happens it is but and also the silver lining that i found
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to this being involved in all of this is with the armenian community so i'm
going to be honest right the The Armenian community is a very traditional immigrant community,
very hesitant to be accepting of homosexuals.
I'll say homophobic.
Right. I grew up in a homophobic household.
What I found, though, is that because I, as a gay man.
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Speaking it not as a gay man, but as a reasonable person saying that this isolation
of children driving a wedge between their parents,
teaching them topics that are better taught in the home with the supervision
of their parents and just leaving usual topics to schools.
When I speak out about that as a gay man, I have found that there has been a
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remarkable change in the tone.
Not that Armenians are suddenly going to be waving pride flags,
rainbow flags in their home, but they have started respecting me as a gay person.
And I have garnered their respect because I'm standing with them shoulder to
shoulder, speaking out about things that you don't need to be gay or straight
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about saying, okay, these are children. They are innocent.
They need to be taught to be responsible adults. And there is a good way and a bad way of doing that.
And we should just leave most of that to the parents and let them discover things on their own.
So that has been a good silver lining that I found with this whole dark tone that things have taken.
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Yeah, you know, we do really find ourselves in a higher moral ground when we
break away from the sheet mentality of saying, oh, this is what the gays are doing.
So this is what I'm doing. This is what we're doing.
And thinking for ourselves, it's not too common right now.
Now, why is it that it seems there is a kind of silent majority,
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even among the gay community, of people who will tell you face to face,
like, this is wrong, what's happening.
But at the same time, they're going to go back into these very progressive woke
circles and, you know, continue about, you know, that not so much even the lifestyle,
so to speak, but the sharing of the ideology with these people and not realizing that they are part of.
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This apparent monolithic group of people who support this.
You can substitute any word. So gay community, Armenian community,
Latin community, Korean community.
What I found when I talk to people, one of the first and most common statements
that comes out of people's mouths when I tell them I'm running for Congress
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is, oh, I'm not political.
And they don't want to get mired in things. They just want to live their lives
and, you know, work their jobs and earn their money and live their American dream.
And they just don't want to get caught up in the drama.
And I privately within the confines of their own homes, of course,
people will show you who they are and they will talk openly.
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But out on the street, it used to be that we were respectful neighbors.
And even if you disagreed with somebody, you would just kind of state that.
But it wouldn't be this heated argument about most things. However,
the far left progressives, and I'm going to say this, there is an epidemic of mental illness.
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Many or most of the far left progressives that I've met suffer from adjustment disorder. Disorder.
Adjustment disorder is a condition, not life threatening, doesn't require medications,
but adjustment disorder is an exaggerated response to a stimulus that any other
individual would react normally to.
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So this is when people fly off the handle. For example, Trump derangement syndrome.
You say Trump and then people just start foaming at the mouth.
Yes, I get it. The guy shoots his mouth off.
The guy can be a petulant child. I get it. But some people, when you mention
Trump, they just completely start yelling and foaming at the mouth.
That is adjustment disorder.
So when we say that children who have gender identity disorder,
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maybe they actually have anxiety, depression, autism, and we shouldn't really
be affirming their care. What do you mean they know what they're talking about?
This is what you're doing. You're trying to erase their identity.
And then they just fly off the handle. So I understand how.
You know, gays and lesbians who privately say, I think these kids are just confused
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and they're going to grow up as gay.
And you shouldn't really try to convince an effeminate boy that he's a girl
or a tomboy that she's a boy.
But when they go out in public and they encounter these far left progressives
who have adjustment disorder, who are going to fly off the handle,
if you say anything different from them, they say it's not worth the drama.
So I'm not going to speak up. And can you honestly blame them.
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No, exactly. That is what happens if you are in the midst of an intimidating
mob of people and you are like a steak amongst a pack of hungry wolves when
you take a position like this amongst so many emotionally charged people.
So I actually want to correct you on that. It's not a pack of wolves.
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It's a handful of people. And this is what we found on social media.
It's the same half a dozen people who are making these frequent,
all caps comments calling fascist and racist and all those things.
It is a vocal fringe minority fringe.
They're on the outskirts at best 10%. So what I want to remind people over there
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is this is not a, they are not numerous. They are simply loud.
And the decibels, yes, are numerous, but the people themselves are not.
And it's simply a matter of asserting yourself because there is not an army behind this one person.
It's just that one person and the six people that they talk to when they go home.
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And so if we, the 80% of us in the middle, the moderate middle,
as I call it, if we simply make ourselves known, you would be surprised how
much support there is among your brethren.
No, that's a very important point. You're correct. It is a small minority of
people who really feel strongly about this.
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I do believe there is a silent majority, on the other hand,
in public spaces in particular, where people are not able or willing to speak
up because they're afraid of that minority and maybe the followers who are too afraid to say,
why are you attacking him?
He's actually right. It really does create at least a sense of a mob mentality,
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even if the people who were standing by silently are actually disagreeing in their heart.
And so that's why I think it's so important that we each individually learn
to speak up, to have a backbone,
to say amongst our friends when they're all going ham in on somebody that,
wait a second, there is a good point here.
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That is illogical. and that is
powerful enough to turn the tide within their group also and precisely and what
i've learned is and we're trying to document this by recording these interactions
that i have with these people with adjustment disorder is where when i respond
and i speak slowly calmly quietly.
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And the person in front of me is yelling and they're just doing this and then
people see okay okay, who am I identifying more clearly with the calm,
cool, collected person or this other person who's flying off the handle?
And I think that not only attracts people to your end, but also gives us credibility
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that we are the calm people, the reasonable people, the rational people who
are thinking this through.
And I think that's what's going to allow us to win it in the end.
Well, of course, that's easy for you to say, sir, because you're on the side of truth.
And when you have truth on your side, it's very easy to be confident.
And when you don't know what you're talking about, you have to scurry about
(47:13):
and change the subject and shift and play the game in order to try to create
the appearance of winning the argument. And I think that's what it comes down to.
Yeah. And if we're going to change the argument, I suggest maybe the Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills, something of that nature, some sort of Bravo show so that
everybody can actually discuss it and agree and just about some mindless topic.
(47:37):
That's, that's, that's my, that's my go-to if the, uh, if the discussion becomes
too heated and I deflected to a different topic.
Absolutely. Yeah, we can just start flipping tables.
Well, we've got a few minutes left and I want to know, first off,
will you share some of your social media contact points? Yes.
(48:00):
So we are on social media. I encourage people to come visit us.
Our website is alexforca30.com, A-L-E-X-F-O-R-C-A-30.com.
And I have short form essays. We have some of the videos that we've posted.
We also have our Instagram page.
That is Alex for CA30.
(48:22):
And we post there a couple of times a week. And I use that as a sounding board
to discuss current topics.
So the more recent newsworthy events will be over there.
We also have our YouTube page, Alex for CA30, where you can find all of our
videos. Also, we do have a podcast.
(48:42):
It's called Enough Talk with Alex Bileckian, and we have at least half a dozen
videos on there. Those are about 30 to 45 minutes long.
Again, Enough Talk with Alex Bileckian, where rather than having soundbites
of 90 seconds, we have these longer form conversations where we can get deeper
into the issues just like you and I are doing right now.
(49:03):
I also have my Twitter X account.
That is Alex Baleckian, A-L-E-X-B-A-L-E-K-I-A-N.
So we are on a variety. And thankfully, I have a not so common last name.
So if you put Alex Baleckian in the Google, it'll show all of our different
social media platforms.
Excellent. Well, Congressional District 30 is lucky to have you running for
(49:29):
your state house position.
We've got Dr. Alex Bileckian, MD, on the scene.
He's rocking it out. I'm so glad that you're out there.
I hope that you continue to share your message and your angle,
your calm, collected demeanor, and you actually are fighting that fight.
You're getting in there. politics is ugly people don't
(49:51):
want to get involved but if we don't then
what happens is we're ruled by people more
ignorant than ourselves isn't that what plato said or somebody he
he did and i i also want to thank you and also gaze against groomers for endorsing
me for you know propagating me to your followers i am very very appreciative
this is not a solo project so i'm i'm in i have deep Deep gratitude for you
(50:17):
all for endorsing me and also spreading the word to your listeners.
We appreciate that very much. People like you are the tip of the sphere here, the sphere, the spear.
So, yeah, we're going to look forward to following up with you.
Hopefully you can come back on and anything you want to discuss in the future with us.
I would love that. Bring it on the show. Thank you very much.
(50:38):
Thank you. Have a good day. All right. You too. Thank you. And for our listeners,
if you want to follow us on Twitter, you know where to go.
Search Gays Against Groomers. You'll find us there. Go to GaysAgainstGroomers.com.
And if you want to reach myself or give any feedback or a guest suggestion,
please email at podcast at GaysAgainstGroomers.com.
(51:03):
Until next week.
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