Episode 15: Exposing Radical Agendas in Education with Nicole Solas

Join our host Robert Wallace in this riveting episode with special guest Nicole Solas, a determined mother from Rhode Island, who shares her courageous journey of challenging her local school board and exposing the radical agendas infiltrating the education system.

Nicole recounts her legal battle against the teachers' union after submitting public records requests about political indoctrination in schools, including gender ideology. Discover the shocking revelations about how gender identity is being embedded in classrooms from as young as kindergarten and the lengths to which school officials and unions go to suppress transparency.

Through this eye-opening conversation, you'll learn about the tactics used by radical activists, the importance of parental involvement, and the crucial role of organizations like the Goldwater Institute in defending civil rights. Whether you're a concerned parent, an advocate for educational transparency, or simply seeking to understand the current landscape, this episode is a must-listen.

Don't miss out on Nicole's insights and practical advice on how to fight back against indoctrination and protect our children's future. Tune in now and stay informed!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. This is Robert Wallace,

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and this is a Gaze Against Groomers production.
Today, we're featuring Nicole Solis.
And Nicole is a mama bear out of Rhode Island who has become quite well known
for putting her local school board on the spot and revealing that yellow-bellied

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underbelly of the system,
them, the wolf in sheep's clothing that is that school district.
And we're going to talk about all the things she discovered and hopefully it's
going to help other people listening to do the same. How are you doing,
Nicole? Hi, good. How are you?
Fantastic. So for listeners, could you just give them a background about your

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story and we'll go from there? Yeah, sure.
So I'm a mom who was sued by my teacher's union for submitting public records
requests about political indoctrination in school, including gender ideology.
And this all started when my school district told me to submit these public
records requests when I had enrolled my daughter in kindergarten.

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And I wanted to know if they were doing political indoctrination.
And instead of answering my questions directly, they told me to submit these
public records requests.
Now, I did find out on the phone with the school principal where my daughter
was enrolled that they They don't call children boys and girls starting in kindergarten.
They said they refrained from using gender-neutral terminology.

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And that they embed the ideals of gender identity into every classroom,
starting in kindergarten at an age-appropriate level.
So, of course, I had all these other questions that came from getting an answer
every time they did answer me, and then they didn't want to answer any of my questions.
I had sent a long email with, like, maybe 25 or 30 questions,

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and the principal told me, well, due to the scope of all your questions,
you have to submit public records requests.
So this was all new to me, my first kid going to kindergarten,
first time enrolling in public school in any school.
And so I thought, OK, this is what we do. Well, I started submitting my questions.
I submitted hundreds because, again, this is the only way that they would respond to me.

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And then next thing I know, my school district put my name on the agenda of
a school committee meeting, and it said that they were going to have an open
public meeting to discuss or take action on suing Nicole Solis for submitting
160 public records requests.
So this was a struggle session. This was them bullying me publicly.

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And this was a meeting where they discussed me or who they thought I was.
They called me a racist. They said that I was working with outside organizations.
They named another organization, Parents Defending education,
said that, you know, we're all racists.
And they debated my moral character, my political character.
They had all these allegations against me. They let people speak against me in public comment.

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My whole community was like 50-50 for me or against me.
And it was just an incredible experience to witness this.
They ultimately decided not to sue me. And then two months later,
the teachers union filed a lawsuit against me.
And it was, you know, They're arguing it was to ask the court to not release
public information about gender ideology,

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critical race theory that I had requested on the basis that teachers would be
harassed by national conservative groups if this information came out,
which is not a legal argument.
Luckily, I got free representation with the Goldwater Institute.
We've been in litigation for three years.
And since then, the teachers union withdrew all their claims.
They also filed a restraining order. and now all their claims,

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their bogus claims that they have to, you know, protect the privacy of teachers,
which doesn't exist because public school teachers are public employees and
what you teach is public information.
What you email is public information.
They withdrew all those claims because I counterclaimed with a slap suit,
which is a lawsuit saying that you just sued me to harass and bully me. So...

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That's where we are today. We're going to be doing depositions soon.
And now I say this is this is no longer the teachers union lawsuit.
This is now my lawsuit against them. And I'm going to win.
It's just a matter of, you know, how much money they're going to have to pay
me for all the damages that they they, you know, caused by publicly harassing
me with with litigation. Wow, that's incredible that you had to go through all of that.

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I think that the Goldwater Institute is a real hero here stepping in and fighting
this case. That is amazing.
I think that's going to deserve its own. We need to talk about that.
What about just the slander? Is this a slap suit that you're referring to,
your rebuttal and all this? Is that like addressing that?

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You know, it's not addressing how they defamed me. I considered filing a defamation lawsuit.
But, you know, there were a lot of people helping me understand what was going
on in the school district.
And I didn't want to open up a defamation lawsuit against the school before
like too hastily because there's also the problem of I had gone on Tucker Carlson

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and I had submitted media.
I had written a blog for a media outlet called LegalInstruction.com.
And so there was a question as to whether I was a public figure.
And if you're a public figure, you know, defamation lawsuits are harder to win.
So and I would also have to get a private attorney to do that.
And I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to spend on litigation.
So I'm also an attorney. I don't practice.

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So I was kind of weighing all my options on what would be the best legal avenue
to pursue because your instinct is right.
I had quite a few different legal avenues to pursue once that meeting happened,
and I was weighing all of my options carefully.
But to answer your question, though, the SLAP suit, what that is,
SLAP stands for Strategic Litigation Against Public Participation.

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And most states, or I should say some states, have anti-SLAP laws,
and they give relief to people like me who are sued just to be harassed with litigation.
And in my case, I was acting perfectly within my rights.
By submitting public records requests, I was engaging in public participation.
And anti-SLAPP laws say that you can't be sued for your public participation.

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It may be your freedom of speech, maybe submitting public records requests. us.
That way someone can't try to deprive you of your civil rights and try to bankrupt
you and smear your reputation, which is everything that the teachers union and
the school district was trying to do to me. They were literally trying to ruin my life.
I mean, financially, I was worried my kids would be bullied in school.

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And so this slap suit is proving that they were just trying to harass me with this litigation.
And I should also mention that I found out later that the NEA,
So this is the largest teachers union in America.
They're South Kingstown branch, which is where I live.
They had held a private meeting shortly after this first school board meeting

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about me, where they put my name and picture on slides and showed me like a
mugshot to 250 teachers.
And they labeled me an attack on public education.
So they were mobilizing their union teachers against me, like deputized bullies

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to like say, this is the parent that's your enemy now.
And so, thank God, a very good teacher leaked these slides to me.
Even she was very nervous. She had to have me come to her house and I had to
take pictures of the picture.
She didn't want like an electronic chain of custody to me because,
you know, she's worried the teachers union could find that out about her.

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I mean, it's like we're working with the mafia here. year.
And so I found out that they were harassing me even without my knowledge.
They're harassing me privately. So it's really incredible how the teachers union
has infiltrated public school.
There really is no difference between the teachers union and your school district.
And we'll talk more later, but the teachers union is also behind this push for

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gender ideology indoctrination in school too.
Wow. Well, first off, how does one put in 168 public public requests for information.
Was this done like, did you put
them all in at once? Was it one day after another? How did that go about?
Yeah, it happened over the course of a month or so, maybe two months.

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And my school district has a link on their website to submit public records requests.
I didn't know about this link and I had never submitted public records requests before.
And so you just go on and you type in what you want to know.
It takes about three seconds. And so sometimes they would send me information.
They were just working with me. I didn't seem like it was a problem.

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And sometimes they would say, oh, you said X, Y, Z. Can you be more specific?
And then what happens is you get an estimate for how much this public information
is going to cost because now you've got to buy the information.
You can't just get it for free.
So then I would start getting really high estimates to get the information that I was asking for.

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This could be curriculum, which, by the way, they told me I had to submit a
public records request just to get the curriculum.
I couldn't get any information from the school without using this formal legal process.
So over the course of a month or so, I would just... Another question would
pop into my head, and I'd say, okay, well, I want to know...

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What's the definition of equity? Okay, I guess I have to submit a public records request for that.
And then I would look for emails between teachers talking about CRT or gender
ideology, because I started learning that they don't have a set curriculum for gender identity.
But, and that was, those are the words from my school principal.
She said, we don't have a set curriculum for gender identity,

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but we teach it by embedding the values.
So then I would say, okay, well, do you, what other practices do you have with gender ideology?
So it was really an an organic process where every time I had a question,
I would just go on my phone, go on this link and send a request.
And it seems like that's what they wanted. They didn't call me and say,
hey, hey, can you just ask your questions in an email? Maybe we can do this a different way.

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They just kept telling me to do it. And even after they had threatened to sue
me in this big public meeting, four months later, I emailed the school attorney
and I said, are you letting boys into to the girl's bathroom.
Like, I'm just trying to figure out how your gender non-discrimination policy
actually works in practice.
And the school attorney wrote back and said, you have to submit a public records request for that.

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So here they are complaining that they're getting too many public records requests
for me. I'm already sued for submitting public records requests.
And then they told me to submit more.
So, you know, I don't know if it was like a setup or if they're just totally
cynical and, you know, don't care how much they stonewall parents.
No no shame, but it was a complete mystery to me.
And the other reason why I submitted so many is because when you get these high

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estimates, you kind of have to figure out how to get the information that you can afford.
So if I asked for a lot of information in one request, I got an estimate for
$74,000 once the Goldwater Institute was trying to help me out to get political
indoctrination curriculum.
And so it's like, all right, how do we get this number down?
We got to submit another request for less information and try to be more specific.

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So it's very much like a video game where you're inputting different codes to
try to get the result that you want.
And, you know, on their end, they're frustrated because they keep getting all
these public records requests. But on my end, I can't afford $74,000.
I got to try a new request a different way.
All this could be solved if they could just be transparent. Hey,

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I don't want to submit public records requests either.
How about just put your whole curriculum online? line? How about just be honest
about all the policies you have?
Like there's another alternative here, but they don't want to do that either.
You know what was just so astonishing? I mean, the whole story is astonishing
that somebody could be put through all of this because they want to parse the
facts because you really have to dissect everything because they're not being transparent.

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But then $74,000, that's probably
more than they're paying a lot of their teachers for a yearly salary.
Who's going to get seventy four thousand dollars to go and spend a year's worth
of research to find out everything that they should have at the tip of their fingers?
Well, the people getting the money are the school attorneys because they have
to then gather all of the documents, review them, make sure that they are,

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in fact, public information, decide what they're going to release and not release.
They have to calculate a cost, which is totally subjective, because at one point,
certain records that I was requesting only cost like eighty dollars.
And then after my story went national, similar records then suddenly cost $2,000, $3,000.
So they're using, you know, their subjective pricing in bad faith to price parents

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out of getting information.
So the only people winning here are the school attorneys making a lot of money
off of hiding information and collaborating with the school district to hide information. Wow.
I've never heard of a school charging for records.
I granted it's coming through their attorney. So they're the ones doing the work.

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But I mean, I just imagine like when I was in school,
you know, you know, through the 90s and, you know, the early 2000s,
the earliest of 2000s, I couldn't have imagined anybody have,
you know, charging my parents, for instance, for any kind of information.
So has something happened where now we've got information they don't want people

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to know, therefore you have to go digging for it, whereas maybe that wasn't
the case before? Is this a new phenomena?
I really don't know because, you know, this is my first time in public school as a parent.
I don't really know if they were more forthcoming with information before.
I do know that they're certainly more political now, and they may be more motivated

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to take advantage of public records laws that allow them to price you out of getting information.
These fees that they charge, they come from the Rhode Island Public Records Law.
It's called the Access to Public Records Act.
Most states have public records laws, and my state allows public entities to
charge $15 an hour to gather, review, and redact information that will be released

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through public records requests.
Other states have different fee schemes.
For example, I've requested public records from the state of Washington,
and they gave me hundreds and hundreds of pages of records for absolutely free.
The flip side is it cost me nine months to get the records I was looking for.
This was actually records related to the Moms for Liberty scandal where there was a teacher.

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I don't know if you remember. A teacher had kids write hate mail to Moms for
Liberty, and Moms for Liberty got all of these cards in the mail from children.
And it was created by children and a teacher in school saying,
stop hating gay people. And it was all this really.
Terrible stuff pinning Moms for Liberty as bigots and anti-gay,

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which of course they are not.
So anyway, I had submitted a public records request about that to get emails
between the teacher and the school administrator to see how much they knew that
this was happening in school.
Long story short, I got the records after nine months. It was free,
but it's an example of how public records law vary from state to state.
And whether they're effective or not really depends on what you're asking for,

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because what good is this information nine months later, even though no, I did get it for free.
On the flip side, if I can find a way to pay for information in Rhode Island,
it'll be more effective if the goal is to educate the public about what's going on in school.
For example, I have crowdsourced money to get public records.
I'll use a GiveSendGo account and I'll say, this is what I'm looking for.

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And one time I did that, I got like $700 within 24 hours and then I could send the check.
Another time I went on Facebook and I said, I'm trying to get this information.
Anyone who wants to pitch in, I'll post the records or I'll send them to you.
And so everyone has ownership.
And that also worked, too. But it's just amazing that I have to jump through
these hoops just to get public information.

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Right. What would you say of all the things that you've learned in a positive
way as far as like what they've affirmatively told you?
What do you think you've learned from what they haven't told you?
I have learned that school officials and employees are far more political than I had ever imagined.
I knew that public school was a political landscape because we're dealing with

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federal and state money.
And of course, we have to make decisions about, say, how much money we're going
to spend on free lunches.
But I did not understand until I enrolled my kid in school that we were talking
about politics that I had no idea how how much embedded they were in in public school.
And I think the people there are true believers in public school that really

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believe they're like civil rights revolutionaries when they,
you know, are in support of gender transitioning kids and keeping it a secret from parents.
There are people in public school that really believe this is that like they're
the gender savior of your kid.
And then there are people that work in public school that just keep their head
down. They don't want to lose their job, you know, want to stay out of it.

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And then there are people, you know, like the teacher that leaked me those slides
about me that just can't live without doing something to fight back.
And she's going to try to help out parents like me.
But for me, it's just no longer a safe place for me and my family.
And some people just don't believe it's happening.
And, you know, I hope they're going to be okay, but it's definitely happening.

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And this is why I speak out because now other parents can come to me,
especially in Rhode Island, and I try to help them as much as I can to either
get information or fight back if their kids are being abused by gender ideology
or other political indoctrination.
You know, I live here in Arizona and I saw that you'd come down and actually
spoke committee hearing on the subject.

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And that is so important because like you said, people don't believe it's happening
until like it all gets parsed out in front of their face.
And then, you know, they can't deny it. It's also one of those things,
you know, people, you know, deny it and then then they admit it's happening.
And then they like then they say it's OK. And then they start justifying it

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sort of thing, you know? Yeah.
And you know what was most astounding about the phenomenon you just described
is that I was posting pictures of the book Genderqueer on Twitter to show the
pornography that kids are being exposed to.
And I thought that that would be the end of it, that if you just showed people
the straight up porn that kids are being shown in school, that people would

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say, oh, my God, you're right.
And instead, people justify it. But it was just amazing to me.
And I thought, wow, this is very scary. People are willing to justify anything.
And I don't really know what the psychology is behind it.
But in the end, these are people that I want nothing to do with.
And I don't want my kids to be exposed to them either.

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I mean, but Nicole, in all seriousness, how is a gay boy supposed to know how
to be gay if he doesn't know how to ejaculate into a Mountain Dew container and drink it?
I think that's in flamer actually i mean
this is what they're really showing us and i mean it's
nothing other than like you know provocative pornography has

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nothing to do with education has nothing and what's more is it's like really
talking about slander this is what you're saying that gay people need like this
is your idea of like gay people you know right and i've said that i said well
what is it about gay people where kids who might grow up to be gay need to be dehumanized at school?
Why do you have to subject kids that are gay to porn? Like, how does that make

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them feel good and, you know...
Even if you can argue that that's what gay kids need, it certainly is not something
that should be in school.
I mean, it just blows my mind that people can't think of the secondary effects
of how it will sexualize the school environment.
It will cause hostility in the school environment.
What are you going to do when a boy gives that book to a girl and says, what?

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It's just the it's a school book. What? You know, that's a way to bully and
sexually harass a girl. all, it's just amazing that their tunnel vision does
not allow them to see any other kind of secondary consequences.
Yeah. I mean, we have activist types that really are just have loose wires coming
out this way and that of their brain who've been put in front of kids who just

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have no moral compass. They can't think in those terms.
And like you said, it's like you can't even read these books in front of a school
board. You see people do it all the time.
Sir, please stop reading that. Please, please, no more.
What have you learned in the process of your litigation or have you discovered
a path to kind of address that like two-edged hypocrisy there as far as I don't

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want to see what we're or hear what we're having the kids learn?
You know, when it comes to the book controversy, I think it is a really good
tactic to bring it to school boards because they're going to be put in a position
where they might violate your First Amendment rights.
And you kind of want to bait them into doing that because filing lawsuits against
school districts for violating your civil rights is a very effective way to

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make school officials start to understand what is really going on here.
Because what's going on here is an inversion of not only morality,
but also of our civil rights.
You don't have a civil right to give of a kid pornography in school and you
can't silence a parent or silent a parent for wanting to talk about these books that are in school.

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And there's really only one thing that school districts are afraid of,
because keep in mind, school officials, they are paid to fight you.
They, you know, are not thinking that they're failing when they have parents
against them. People are making money to be your enemy.
But when you sue them, you know, in good faith, you have a legitimate claim.

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Now the school is losing money. They're not making money on fighting you anymore. more.
So it's really important for parents to find out the organizations that can
help them with claims that they may have. Goldwater Institute is one.
Liberty Justice Center is another one. I mean, just Google it and you'll find
all these organizations that are already defending the kid who was suspended

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for saying the word illegal alien. That's recently in the news now.
Now he's suing his school district because we need some way,
some lever to pull that's going to be effective.
And while going to public comment and speaking in front of your school board
is effective to a certain extent, it's not going to solve the problem.
And we need to do more than that and pull as many levers as we can. Wow.

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Yeah. Well, that's super awesome advice.
You know, we do need to put them on the spot and expose them through showing that side of them.
I think if we did more of that, yeah, people would like be careful.
Who's liable, though, you know, now it's one thing, it's sad that you had to
wait, for instance, nine months for that information.
And during that nine months of waiting to find out what your kid was being indoctrinated with.

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Your kid was being indoctrinated. Is anybody liable for like,
you know, if we look at like gender dysphoria and body dysmorphia as,
yes, they're psychological conditions and it's often, you know, tied to people,
you know, with autism, but it's a psychiatric condition and it's being spread
by way of the social contagion of, you know, that as Robbie Starbuck called

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it in his this war on children movie, The Mere Exposure Effect.
Can the school be liable for creating mental illness in your child through the
promotion of these ill ideas?
Well, I know that school districts are certainly being sued when they social
transition your child without your consent.
And I know there was Spreckles School District was sued. That's out in California.

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And I think they had a $100,000 settlement.
So the lawsuits are new and they're being filed.
But it's also important to understand, I know you said, can they be liable?
Liability, and this isn't like a legal analysis, but in general,
the people that are responsible for brainwashing kids into this,

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there's more than just the school district.
So, for example, in Rhode Island, the transgender policies started coming into
school districts thanks to the ACLU who created a campaign to go to all,
I think we have 33 or 36 school districts in Rhode Island and say,
hey, you need this non-discrimination policy.
And if you don't have it, well, you know, basically this is a failed threat

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that the ACLU will sue you if you don't put this policy in school.
And to be clear, this policy is not just about not discriminating.
It's not just about like being nice to a kid who thinks he's the opposite sex.
The policies explicitly says that you can keep secrets from parents.
You can put boys in the girls' restroom.
Boys can go on overnight trips and sleep in girls' lodging rooms.

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So it's much more than non-discrimination. It's endangering kids.
So that all started with an outside organization, ACLU.
And then in Rhode Island, and I'm sure this is true in other states,
there are medical clinics that send out activists to go pressure school districts
to either adopt these policies or, if they already have a policy like in Rhode Island,

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to adopt even more aggressive policies when it comes to transgenderism.
And I've witnessed this at my school board. Well, they'll send a transgender
activist, which is mind boggling that you have a medical clinic employing these
people to come and they will either outright lie to the school district.
In my case, this trans activist said that it's the law.

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You have to adopt a policy that puts boys in the girls' bathroom, et cetera.
And finally, someone said, what law? And they couldn't even answer the question. It was a total lie.
And in the meantime, what this all really is, is just recruiting future medical patients.
And they're telling school boards, if you don't do this, you're going to lose funding.

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And the truth is, when it comes to federal funding, when you're following,
say, Title IX or Title VI, when it comes to racism, losing federal funding is actually very hard.
It's a hard thing to do. It is a very long process of being in noncompliance.
And an example of that is I think in Chicago, the Chicago school district had

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been not in compliance with, I think,
I think actually with Title IX due to sexual harassment claims.
And it took like two or three years for them to lose a little bit of funding.
And then they would be like up for review later to see if they could recover it.
So I say all this because now that Title IX includes a new definition of sex

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discrimination to include gender identity,
this is going to be the new threat of, oh, my God, if you don't let boys in
the girls' bathroom, you're going to lose your federal funding.
Well, hold on. We got lawsuits coming. I think there's been like 15 filed.
And secondly, even if someone does challenge your compliance with Title IX,
it doesn't happen overnight.
You don't just like lose all your federal funding overnight.

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You're going to be investigated.
You're going to be given a second chance. So it's worth it to say we will not comply.
We're not going to put girls at risk of sexual assault in the bathroom.
We're not going to put boys on girls' teams. And we're going to have this fight
because at the end of the day, the Department of Education is going to sit back
and go, oh, whoa, are we going to like just defund all of our school districts that don't comply?

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You know, because it's the Department of Education that has to enforce this all.
They also have to make sure that education is like actually happening.
It's not in their interest to just pull funding overnight either.
So we should take advantage of the position we're in. Absolutely.
You know, what you were saying just reminded me of like a meme that I saw earlier
today, and it was a Planet Fitness meme.

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And in it there was these you know women
in the locker room and here comes you know
this bearded man in this bikini and he's
like don't stop undressing or you're
transphobic and it's funny
but at the same time in a horrifying scary way
i mean that is essentially true like

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that's what they are really like banking on and really like trying to like if
you say like what's happening there you know if you say anything about men coming
in there then you're going to lose your membership if you stop doing what you're
doing or act differently what
it's just absurd and then you're going to bring that into schools yeah
Yeah. We've already seen, I don't know if you remember about the girl that was

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raped in a Virginia school district.
I mean, these are catastrophic, life-changing events for kids.
It's not like, oh, we just have to be kind.
It's like, that will change the trajectory of your life forever if a girl is sexually assaulted.
And, you know, even if it doesn't rise to that catastrophic level,
we have to consider how we are really giving our kids a jaded perception of

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right and wrong, of real and of reality and delusion.
So to grow up in an environment where all the adults around you are telling
you it's okay to have boys in the girls' bathroom,
that will influence your understanding and your confidence and your decision-making
ability with so many other things in your life related to sexuality.

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Related to your boundaries and safety when it comes to sex.
So the repercussions are truly scary.
And I just hope that this Title IX revision, which is really a Title IX destruction
of Title IX, I hope it is just obliterated with lawsuits.
And if not with lawsuits, hopefully Trump will be elected and,

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you know, we'll start the whole Title IX battle all over again and he'll reverse
it and, you know, we'll see what happens.
You know that is such a big thing right
now it's this is a top-down operation and if
we don't have in one form or another leadership
who's going to protect us you know the world economic forum there is a clip

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of this woman she's dressed like this kind of like this wow and she's got these
big puss on her shoulders and this and that and she's just like yes we stand
here for the the rights of the lgbtqia i'm ensuring that you know their rights
are enforced or whatever and all the everywhere.
And it's like, if it's coming from that level, I mean, that's the new world
order level, the build back better, great reset, whatever you want to call it.

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It is the one world government.
If it's coming from the highest level, and then we see during gay pride month,
every one of these conglomerates turns all of their little companies into rainbow icons.
And then, you know, they're putting it into the schools and,
you know, codifying it into law and everything.
How do we escape this? Are we kind of going after the pawns when we need to

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be going after the king and the queen and really storming the citadel?
I mean, how is this going to end?
I mean, I, of course, never...
Condone or promote violence. But, you know, it's very scary because if you push
people to a breaking point where their basic safety is jeopardized in every

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facet of their life, their school, their federal government,
their state government,
their, you know, private bathrooms and grocery, it's, you know, their kids.
I mean, I'm just waiting for some dad to lose it. You know, it's just people
can only tolerate so much.
So, you know, what's going to happen? I don't know. No, maybe we'll have the,

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you know, anarcho tyranny of the BLM riots,
except it'll be, you know, focused on what's what's going on with this new battle
of the sexes, which is really to erase binary sex.
So I don't know what it's going to look like. I don't even know if it's possible
to, you know, get the eye of the dragon in this case, because the federal Department

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of Education is such a beast.
Decreased but we are feeling it from from all
angles now and i just think there's going
to be a breaking point at some point you know what i've
seen here with the destruction of the binary and
as you were just kind of referring to if we
don't have man and woman and boy and girl then we

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can use that same framework to demolish
the differences between light and dark up and
down in and out moon and sun yin
and yang i mean you can you can take any paradigm and
you can completely invert it and fold it inside and out and nothing's going
to make any sense because if there's one thing that nature tells us right off

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the bat is we come in two varietals but the occasional you know phenomena of
maybe a perhaps an intersex person very very tiny one in a million And,
but that is the general rule of thumb. And we see that everywhere.
And if we can't just acknowledge and accept that.
Kids are not born in the wrong body. What are we going to be accepting tomorrow?

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Exactly. You know, this is really an assault on truth.
And there are certain truths that define a society and make a society function.
And when you start undermining those truths and destroying them,
it creates a slippery slope where radical people are incentivized to question

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other truths that they find to be inconvenient,
like whether an adult can have a sexual relationship with a child.
And that's something that the UN is inching closer and closer to promoting,
unless they've directly promoted it by now.
But, you know, I've seen curriculum that was created by Planned Parenthood and supported by the UN.

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The UN talks a lot about the sexual liberation of children, that children are
sexual beings and they must be liberated.
That is so dangerous. And that is the rabbit hole, I think, that you start to
go down once you decide that, oh, a child can change their sex, which is impossible.

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Oh, well, if a child can change their sex and consent to toxic levels of hormones,
which in Rhode Island, the age of consent for medical treatment is 12 years
old, and it's 16 if you want to get hormones.
So once we start doing that, well, where are we going to stop when it comes
to the decisions that kids can make?
I can see, you know, a very precocious kid saying, hey, I'm 12.

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I can decide to change my gender. Well, why can't I also smoke and drink?
And I want my license. And it's not a conspiracy theory.
It is a logical consequence of destroying the truth and normal social the social norms that we have.

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And, you know, everyone said that, you know, we that we would have this slippery
slope. I think conservatives were saying that when gay marriage was legalized,
oh, now we're going to have a slippery slope.
I always supported gay marriage. I still do. I still support gay civil rights.
And but unfortunately, the slippery slope is proving to be true.
And it's it's going to set back the gay community because now people are they're

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like giving a reason to people to hate gay people.
And it's that's not going to be good for anyone who's gay, whether you support
the transgender ideology applied to kids or not.
And now, you know, I think in the end, very sadly,
gay people may be the target of, you know, supporting pedophilia when we know
that, you know, people like you in the in the gay community,

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like being gay is not about being a pedophile.
But these radical trans activists, they're creating the conditions to justify
people to believe that now. So it's yeah.
I kind of went off on a tangent. Sorry. No, that is all very valid. And I completely agree.
You know, we have the problem. Yes, we've got the gays over here.

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But then kind of riding on, you
know, the bridal veil of the whole LGB movement is all this trans stuff.
And being gay and trans is like apples and oranges.
But it is no wonder that public opinion of the gay community is absolutely falling
to the floor because how can it not even as a gay person like I'm getting nauseous

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looking at these gay pride flags and I'm feeling like I mean,
I don't know who these people are who are like, what is being gay?
Like you're just a human being and you're trying
to make your way through life hopefully you're trying to improve yourself maybe you're
trying to prepare yourself or you know death and
you want to make yourself a better person in this life you know
like that's what we should be doing you know like living the best life we can

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but when your full identity is your sexuality you know like what are these people
trying to do when they say oh we want kids to be exposed to this information while they're young.
They want them to be like championship sluts and whores by the time they're 18.
I mean, had that been available to me, like that kind of structure is what keeps

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us here enough to be able to go into adulthood with decency. Right.
And, you know, that mentality of, oh, we have to expose kids to harmful sexual
content at an early age to protect them.
That's Exposing kids to certain ideas, it matters when you expose kids to any idea.

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For example, my daughter is eight years old.
I don't think she's aware of the concept of divorce yet. Now,
divorce is no longer a taboo subject.
However, if that's something that I'm going to talk to my daughter about,
I know she's very sensitive.
She's going to get scared. She's going to say, wait, what, divorce?
I thought people get married and that's it.
Are you and daddy going to get to it? It's going to be a very scary thing for

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her. You know, as she gets older and she learns, fine, yeah, we can talk about it.
I don't have to worry about her getting upset about this concept.
But, you know, I use that example to say there are lots of things that are not
necessarily controversial that you just don't want to expose your kids to yet
because they are automatically going to internalize it and make something that's
not scary into a scary thing.

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The other thing, this is kind of off topic. I just wanted to say this because
I don't talk, I kind of forgot this happened.
And then I was thinking about things to talk to you about when we scheduled this.
One of the most surprising public criticisms or attack I got online was,
when my school district first had this meeting about me, was that someone went

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online and they said, hey, we should go by Nicole's house with a big old pride
parade with lots of gay people.
And so I saw this post of people being like, yeah, I was like,
oh my God, why are they bringing up gay people?
What did that have to do with anything? And I was so just perplexed about how

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that had, because I was like you, believed that being transgender was totally
different than being and gay.
And yet that was the beginning of people
conflating these two issues and automatically labeling you anti-gay.
If you, you know, God forbid, don't believe kids should be sterilized and mutilated
and permanently disabled for the rest of their lives. That's hilarious.
And that's where the rubber meets the road. These people don't understand,

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A, fine, you're an adult and you're trans, go live your life.
You keep it away from kids, but they can't separate,
you know, know being trans from being gay
they think it is the same thing and it's not
and the fact that they can't see the difference is like where the
danger is it's like you know what this makes me think of
going back to what we're talking about earlier when you're sexualizing kids

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or when you're exposing children to ideas that are really adult themed or they
should be more developed before you know they're confronted with those ideas
it makes me think of like like a builder trying to build a house with half-grown trees with like twigs.
He doesn't wait for them to grow up to become strong so that they're stable
and then they can be put to good use.

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He just, you know, you're just waiting for them just to come out of the ground
and chopping them up and you're trying to, what are you building a nest?
You know, it's going to fall apart.
You know, they're not going to be able to sustain any weight.
They're not going to do any, you're just going to cut them off from having grown
a full, strong life and actually being useful in order so that,
I mean, what, you can have this dinky house that can just be blown over in the wind?

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I don't know. It's an unstable analogy because, you know, I think by its nature,
it doesn't make any sense.
But so I'm I think we're a lot alike where everybody seems to agree.
The gays that I talk to, you know, they don't want that in front of kids.
And who does? And really what's going on in their heads?
And what are these organizations and they're paying people like,

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oh, we need drag queen story hour.
We need these books in front of kids, but the kids need to be focused on like
just coming to terms with I got,
you know, two arms and two legs and these eyeballs and and I need to orient
myself in this world and figure out how things go together and,
you know, how to get places and learn things.
But instead, we have very we're perverted types.

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I mean, you have to be perverted in order to be ambitious for these ends for these kids.
They're calling the shots and they're changing the definition of everything.
They're saying, hey, if you don't subscribe to this, you're homophobic, even if you're gay.
So it's not naturally occurring. It's coming top down. Where do you think you
got a deposition coming up and you're going to have to speak to what you've been confronting?

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Are you going to be addressing some of these larger themes of what's happening
in society around this issue?
Or is this going to be strictly related to what you've been confronted with
and what kind of lessons came out of that? Yeah, you know, the depositions in
my litigation that are happening, that's that is just about the teachers union harassment of me.
So I'm actually not scheduled to be deposed.

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But the teachers union scheduled my husband to be deposed, which I think is
a shining example of how much they want to harass me.
My husband is also a defendant in this litigation because he also submitted
public records requests because once they threatened to sue me,
I was like, honey, can you submit these under your name? So,
you know, because they're kind of after me now.
And then, of course, now they sue him, too. So those depositions are just related to the lawsuit. you.

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But, you know, the teachers union is part of that top-down effect that you're talking about.
And a document that you should familiarize yourself with, if you haven't already
heard of it, it's a guide that's produced by the National Education Association.
And this guide is called Students in Transition.
And it's a guide that teaches union teachers how to trans kids at school.

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They actually have a whole chapter devoted to fighting parents like me.
They call it like like how to deal with unsupportive parents.
And they say some pretty shocking things in this guide, but...
One of them is they encourage teachers to be witnesses testifying in custody

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disputes during divorces to be sort of like present themselves as some expert
witness as to why if a divorced couple is disagreeing on a gender transition for their child,
the teachers union is telling teachers in this guide that they should go testify
in these hearings like of their own volition and take a side of a parent.

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It's just shocking because they say, I mean, just completely unironically,
they say, well, teachers or educators are in a unique position to have insight
about a child because they interact with them on a daily basis.
And I read that and I thought, I live with my kid. I interact with them on a
daily. They came out of my body.

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Like, I'm the one that has unique insight as to their welfare and personal growth
and development. But the union is telling teachers that they're the ones that know better.
And, you know, just as an aside, who's paying these teachers to take time off
work to go testify in like someone's divorce?
It's just amazing. You know, the teachers union, they were originally created to bargain for fair pay.

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Are teachers supposed to like take their own PTO, pay time off to like go drive
a wedge between families about gender transitioning their kids?
It's just amazing. And they also argue in this guide that another reason why
educators are in a unique position to decide whether your child has to get a sex change.

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The other reason is because even when parents really love their kids, they just don't get it.
And in fact, all that love they have is just clouding their judgment.
So on the one hand, you have the activists saying parents are abusive if they
don't gender transition their kids and children report being kicked out of the
house if they don't gender transition or accept their their identity.

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So, OK, so now parents don't love their kids. And now they're like,
actually, parents love their kids a lot. And that's also a problem.
And that's how you know what you're really dealing with as a cult,
because they have an unfalsifiable premise.
You can never argue with them. You can never challenge them. They're always right.
And you're always the enemy. And at the end of the day, the victims of this
cult are the children because all of these school officials that they think

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are in unique positions to know better about other people's kids,
they're not going to be here in 10 to 20 years when those kids fall apart,
when they realize that they've destroyed their bodies, they've destroyed their souls,
and that they're going to have sexual dysfunction that will determine whether
they're going to have a romantic partner for the rest of their lives.

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And it's it's so upsetting because like falling in love with someone is like
the like number one best thing in life.
Like everyone wants to follow. Everyone wants to have a partner.
And when you don't have that in life, it's like everything is just lonely.
And so they're really just getting at like an existential need that everyone

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knows is is like the number one thing in the world. And they're killing that for kids.
And the kids have no idea that that's what is at stake. The kids think they're
just being authentic and they have no idea that really they could be giving
up a lifetime of happiness. They are if they do this. Right.
They're treating their bodies like some sort of like a video game.

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Like, oh, I mean, they're not even considering that you don't get another life after this.
You know, there is no recourse to removing body parts.
When you have, when it comes to furries, I want to talk about furries.
That's a fun subject. Everybody loves talking about furries.
We just saw a video clip coming out of a college, and I forget what state it

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was in or what college it was in.
But the professor comes to class dressed as this leopard tiger,
saber-toothed tiger type of furry. He's got this whole bodysuit.
I mean, the bodysuit looks cool. Don't get me wrong. Like in the context of
art and theater, that's a great bodysuit.
But when you think that that is you or you're going a step further and then

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putting yourself in front of students and this is your personality,
I think I was just told recently this is called a personality or something.
Oh, no. Instead of persona, it's a fursana. And you see these cartoon dogs,
you know, and they're like animalistic or they're like, you know, personified dogs.
You know, they stand on two legs. eggs and so this is

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what they think they are you know what is going
to happen when we got stuff like that coming in schools teachers coming in
as furries i mean they're practically already doing
i look at like that's you know they're they're framing it as like their civil
right their their freedom of expression i'm sorry you don't have a civil right
to dress like a freak at school like as an animal that's just like not what

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that's for but i think this is like part of the whole bring bring your whole
self to work kind of like movement.
I keep hearing people say, I'm like, can we not bring our whole selves to work?
Can we just like bring our work selves to work and be professional and just like get the job done?
So, you know, the message you're sending to kids is just total self-indulgence,
narcissism, self-absorption.

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And those are all qualities that you have to fight. I mean, even healthy people,
you can have narcissistic tendencies.
Well, it's not good for your relationships. You have to think about other people.
That's how you live a happy life. But...
When schools have teachers doing this or they're at least allowing teachers
to do this, it's, you know, sending the entire wrong message to kids totally distracting.

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I could never be thinking about what the teacher is telling me if he's dressed
like a total buffoon in front of the class.
So, yeah. But that's, again, the slippery slope that we've gone down.
It really is a slippery slope. And I remember back in the day when people would
make that reference and, you know, then they'd say, oh, eventually they're going
to want to, you know, have sex with dogs and marry animals.
And I'm like, well, I was like, well, wait a second.

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I mean, I could never see humanity going that direction, but I thought,
you know, being gay and then that whole thing is like two different things.
But little did I know that, you know, again, like writing on the back of this,
you know, just let gay people leave gay people alone thing was this completely
other different agenda.
If the gays and the lesbians separate in the bisexual,

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separate themselves from everything thing that is trans and
like okay you're trans and you're gay so maybe you're an overlap of
the two characters but gay doesn't equal trans and
vice versa they are not the same thing the trans
movement will find itself like
really lost in space because everything that they got that means anything that

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has any weight they're they're just like oh like look at the gays if they you
know and it's just they're not the same at all the gays generally don't identify
as trans and and even Even within the gay community,
you know, you watch some of these Jubilee videos,
you watch these videos where you have, you know, this side versus that side
of the middle ground series.
And you got trans people talking about how, you know, they feel ostracized even

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within the gay community and this and that.
It's like because it's not the same community.
You know, you're just interjecting yourself into this place and.
It's not the same thing. And I think that's what makes the progress flag so dangerous.
It's not just the gay stripes anymore. Now it's like, oh, you're black and you're
brown and you're intersex and you're trans and you're this and you're that and

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you're a pedophile and you're that. You know, they got the maps on there.
And it's like you're just trying to, like, quickly bunch everybody together
under the basis of inclusion.
So it's such a very scary, dangerous place we're in. What do you think about homeschooling?
I wish I could do it. you know, I think it's been a very powerful tool to let

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public school know that we don't like what they're doing.
I used to not really have an opinion of homeschool. Sometimes I thought it was
a little weird, like, wow, like, what's wrong with going to school?
I don't know why you would want to stay home all day. That kind of sounds depressing.
And now I learned about all of the options that you have, how much you can learn.
My best friend's daughter is a homeschooler in California.

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And she said she gets all her schoolwork done in like three hours,
as opposed to six or seven hours.
And then she has all this time to do an enrichment program where she can go
hiking with kids and learn about all the plants in the forest.
I mean, her life is just amazing.
So I love homeschooling. And I think if it's right for your family,

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definitely do it. Give it a try.
It's not off the menu for me. We might try it one year.
We're in private school now, But we didn't plan financially for private school,
especially for two kids.
So, you know, we're just going to keep going until we can. And homeschool might
be an option for us because public school...
Sure is not. I know a lot of people that are in my private school now who said,

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whoa, we were in the private school district and my kid came home and just started
having all this anxiety.
And she's not a kid that's anxious. It was just like this overnight transformation.
And we put her in private school and she's back to her normal self again.
And I think it's because this social justice culture creates this latent hostility
of an us versus them mentality.
And even though the kids may not be able to articulate it or identify it,

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they can feel it, that there's just a culture that is, it's not a safe culture
for learning, even though they keep saying it is a safe and welcoming culture.
It's a culture that keeps reminding them that there's like fights happening
and they have to be on the right side. And that's not a good learning environment.
Exactly. Recently, I appeared in a documentary that's getting ready to be released

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here in the next 30 days called Beneath Sheep's Clothing.
And it's all about the commonalities between Marxism moving into the USSR and
what's happening in America.
And I was there speaking on behalf of Gays Against Rumors and kind of wrapping
up this theme of cultural Marxism.
And I know that's something that you're informed about.

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And why don't you speak to that for a minute? How's that going to affect us?
You know, cultural Marxism, that's
really what's driving everything that's going on in school right now.
I have an example. I don't, you know, it's not, it's an example of how these
ideas are embedded in the curriculum and parents may not even know about it.

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So what school districts or what schools do now is they try to embed different
ideas into like one subject.
So you might have a grammar lesson and you have a passage where you have to
correct the grammar and maybe like you're in fifth or sixth grade.
And instead of just having a boring passage, it'll be a historical passage.
Okay, great idea. We can learn history as we're looking for grammar issues.

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Well, in this particular passage that was in my school district that a parent
sent to me, this passage was about Martin Luther King Jr.
And they talked about this guy, you may have heard of him, Ruskin, Bayard Ruskin.
And he was one of the organizers of the March on Washington in 1963,
the famous picture with the big crowd at the memorial.
And so what this passage said was, oh, you know, oh, great, the Civil Rights

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March, blah, blah, blah.
Well, Martin Luther King didn't want this guy, Bayard Rusking, in the march.
He didn't want his, like, presence there, and it's because he was gay.
And I asked my husband about this, who's more of a historian than I am,
and he said, no, no, no, Martin Luther King didn't want this guy there.
In the march because it was a communist, right? Like that was the big deal.

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And Martin Luther King was having allegations of being communist himself.
And so if he allied himself with this guy, that wouldn't be good for MLK.
Now he was, Ruskin also was gay,
but that like was not the reason why MLK didn't want him in the march.
And yet this passage was leading kids to believe that this was a gay issue that was happening.

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We got historical inaccuracy going on, But what we have really going on with
this passage is it's called this tactic by Marxists called centering the marginalized.
And what they do is they make anything you teach children to revolve around
a marginalized community.
And in this case, the marginalized community is gay people. and

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they're willing to even be liars about
history in order to make every single thing you
can about whatever minority group you're talking
about and the fallout from that is kids not knowing true history kids having
a false belief about the way gay people were discriminated against because of
course they were discriminated against but you're just going to sound ignorant

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if you think they were discriminated against in a particular incident where
they weren't that's not going to help gay civil rights.
So Marxism, even in that just like little microcosm, because again,
this was like one question on a grammar lesson that a parent sent to me in my school district.
It just opens up this whole can of worms. And-

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It is a top to bottom problem that's happening because you can't even do a grammar
lesson now without this Marxism coming into play.
Another parent sent me an assignment for her kid in school where they're reading.
It was like classic American literature, Steinbeck, but it was everything they
were reading in this English class was through a Marxist critique.

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Now, Marxist critiques, they're not like, okay, I did them in college.
I was an English major. But the problem is, is that when you do them in high
school, you're not learning, you know, classic American literature neutrally.
Like, you just got to read the book and talk about, like, the themes without
having a political agenda.
You can do all these other critiques when you get to college if you want to

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be an English major, but it's leading kids to have the wrong ideas about history,
and it's leading kids to believe that there's oppression happening all around them when it isn't.
Exactly you know we have the issue with
you know martin luther king june that i have a
dream that one day my kids are going to be judged on the content of their character

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not by the color of their skin obviously thanks to dei that's dead and like
you're talking about with that example of social marxism it's kind of like leading
towards this sel this social emotional learning where you manipulate your emotions,
and then you get the CRT factor in there, which again is very anti, I have a dream, okay?

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What do you think is going to happen if we don't address the fact that every
single instance of educating people through this lens of Marxism, for instance,
and causing people to go up through that, is the indoctrination that's going
to lead them further away from their parents.

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It's going to lead them further away from America, from reality.
I mean, you just said that scary thing of centering the minorities.
There's a reason why there's minorities. How did we get there?
Well, the culture has led itself into this direction where we had certain values
and we got to this place based on truth.
And sometimes we're at different levels or whatever.

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And I don't mean that it's bad to take, oh,
the minorities, is like you know african-american well
they say african-american you know they haven't been lived in africa or whatever or
they you know hispanic people or whatever that thing
that we shouldn't like embrace everybody but if you know the the mean the center
of the average you know just happens to be like heterosexuality is like how

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you how we're progressing and then having values around that because it keeps
people happy and it keeps people pure and which leads to better better, cleaner lives,
then you're completely just like throwing away, you know, throwing the baby
out with the bathwater, but you're throwing away all truth simply to use the
emotions in order to bring these people in.

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You're going to flip society on its head and you're going to forget truth.
How about that? Yeah. And, you know, minorities, statistically,
they just are what they are.
You know, everyone at some point in their life might find that they're in some minority.
It might not be a minority that's defined by immutable characteristics,
but at some point in your life, you're going to experience a situation where

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you're not in the majority and it doesn't feel awesome all the time,
but it doesn't have to be a bad thing.
It doesn't have to be imbued with feelings of vulnerability and insecurity.
And what this movement is doing is it's trying to force a demographic shift.
And it's not going to work because at the end of the day, sex is binary.

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And you can try to convince people that they exist on a gender and sexual spectrum
and they can report that they identify as, you know, I don't know,
alien, polyamory, unicorn,
and fine, we can create all that fake data to then say, oh, there's been a 17.5%
increase in students identifying as trans and whatever.

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But at the end of the day, people are still gonna be defined by their biology
when it comes to sex and it's just going to break open.
And it's only going to create unhappiness because you're teaching people to
deny reality and struggle with it.
And they're either going to struggle their whole lives and be unhappy,
or they're going to break open and have a catharsis and accept reality.

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But in the meantime, it's really just such a waste of time and energy to have to go through that.
You know, I just read a tweet. I think it was, oh, Stephanie Wynn,
She's a therapist on Twitter.
And she just had she had this great tweet about like why it's cruel to lie about
sex to the LGBTQ community.

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And she said, look, the reality is, is that gay people are in a sexual minority.
And if you lie to them and say, oh,
actually, this minority group has more and more people identifying as trans
and polyamory and all this stuff. And we're making this group bigger.
Well, at the end of the day, you're kind of like making promises that to this

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minority group that their minority group, oh, you're only a minority because
you've been oppressed by external forces. And actually, your group is way bigger.
Well, that's kind of cruel to say that to them, because no, the truth is, it is a sexual minority.
And, And, you know, you can still find a partner and you can still be happy
because there are civil rights that affirm, you know, gay marriage and you are

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lucky to live in a country that has those rights for you. So let's just be happy and live with it.
At the end, it's just cruel to pretend like there's more of you in a minority
than there actually are because you're decreasing.
You're just setting up a false expectation about like how easy it is for people
in a minority to live their lives because it is harder when you're in a minority,

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depending depending on what your minority status is.
But the answer is not to lie about
it. The answer is not to try to force a demographic shift artificially.
Exactly. You know, the only reason I think all of this is happening is to create division amongst us.
I mean, I'm half Mexican, so I got a Mexican half and I got black cousins and

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I'm married to an Indian guy and I'm gay.
And so, you know, I mean, I'm in touch with all
sorts of different aspects of minority culture and
diversity is great but you know if i go
into for instance the middle of africa okay where
the predominant you know race is black
okay and then i say there's not enough white representation on tv there's not

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enough gay representation you know yes i'm going to be killed first off for
saying stupid stuff like that but it's also illogical and unfair to want this
imbalance in representation representation.
I don't think we should have to have a formula.
There's this many white people, so there must be 3.2 white characters in this

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and 1.5 black characters.
That's ridiculous. But when you're purposely disenfranchising large groups,
whether it's straight people out of the,
you know white people out of you know a nation
that has predominantly you know white people in

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it in order to create this balance and then
we were pushing this into schools like you said it's unrealistic expectation
people just need to be happy with where they're at like i'm happy for straight
people like i love straight people i love them to death you know you know i
as far as having black cousins like i love black people but i also love straight

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people it doesn't mean i feel
like black people are oppressed because they're not like front and center.
And the people who are teaching that, and this is taught in grade school level,
are pitting us against each other.
Yes. And to bring it back to the teachers union, you know, they,
they, there was this interview with the executive director of the teachers union that, that sued me.

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And, you know, he always takes the opportunity to give some soapbox speech whenever he's interviewed.
And he said, well, Well, we, you know, we believe in like, I'm paraphrasing,
of course, that we believe in, you know, inclusive curriculum because,
you know, kids are different.
You know, we got, you know, there are kids that are different.
And I thought, it's just such a terrible thing to say. Like,
if kids are different, okay, fine.

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Some kids are different and some kids are in the majority for however you want
to define it. Can we stop focusing on the differences?
Like, why are we so obsessed with the differences, especially when it comes
to kids? Because at the end of the day, when you're giving kids an education,
you should treat them without regard to any differences that they have.
You shouldn't educate or treat a child differently if they're black,

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white, straight, gay, anything.
The education should be equal for all kids, and it should have nothing to do with gender.
You're a racer or sex. But for some reason, the teachers union thinks that,
you know, the opposite is true, is that we have to be what they call a culturally response,
which is really just like a nice way of saying, oh, we should treat you differently

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if you have a different culture, which usually is determined by your race.
You're like giving teachers a reason to be racist against kids.
Say, oh, okay, maybe you have a different culture because you have a different
skin color than the next kid.
So I'm going to be responsive to that in my teaching to you. That's terrible.
Anyway, I know we're here to talk about gender issues, but they all end up overlapping

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with the Marxist race issues as well. They do. They do.
Wow. Well, we've gone over time a little bit, so I'm going to get this all in here.
Why don't you share your social media, how people can reach you,
and then we'll have you on again. Great. I'm on Twitter. It's,
Nicoletta0602. So N-I-C-O-L-E-T-T-A-0602. I'm also on Facebook as Nicoletta

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Nicole, but most of my updates about the teachers union lawsuits are on my Twitter. Okay, awesome.
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