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Welcome to the dark side of the rainbow. Today we have a hard rocking guest, Shuri Curry,
known for her punk rock band, The Runaways, and as of late for speaking out
against what is happening to kids all over the place. How you doing, Shuri?
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Hey, Robert. It's such an honor to be with you. Thank you so very much for all you do.
I'm just, I'm a huge fan. am and thank
you because i mean it really takes i mean you know you you've
put yourself in the line of fire for honestly the
most outrageously awful trans cult you know ism that i've ever seen and i just
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really frankly you know i've just never seen anything like it robert and and you know you being gay,
you know, you are, you're top of the list of just being scorned.
And, you know, I just really have to tip my hat to you. Thank you so much.
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Thank you for that. And thank you for what you've been willing to do with your voice.
You've got an extensive career in music and film, and you've put it all on the
line in order to speak truth to power.
And that's something that's in short supply right now.
Yeah. Well, you know what? I'm a simple gal, you know what I mean?
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I'm, I'm, I'm a common sense person.
And when you see something that absolutely again goes against every fiber of
your, not only maternal instincts, but your instincts period,
and that it's so insidious and.
Because, you know, I was a kid, too. You know, so were you. We know that you
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don't introduce something.
You don't introduce kids to drugs in grammar school or even in kindergarten, do you?
No, you don't. You don't introduce non-binary sexuality, gay,
straight, transgenderism to children.
They don't know about it.
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They're too young to even conceive such
a thing and what it does is it opens up
a pandora's box for uh impression impressionable
children that want to fit in that they will mold themselves in any way to do
so and then you introduce the drugs and you introduce the parents that you know
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might honestly just be so shocked by this whole agenda that they want to do
what's best for their children.
But then you have doctors turning around saying, do you want a dead son or a.
Daughter, a living daughter?
I mean, not only is it a lie, but this is something that, again,
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is so beyond the realm of sanity that it just has to be stopped.
And thank God it's actually happening now, thanks to Gays Against Groomers,
thanks to you, people like you, people like me, where we stand up and say no
more, because there is no turning back once you start these drugs.
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And the fact that these doctors, and I've seen so many films on it,
documentaries, that these doctors turn around and say these are reversible.
They lie. They're not reversible.
Children, I mean, as you grow up, you can't have an orgasm. You can't have intimacy.
It causes you to psychologically disconnect.
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You have no meaningful, real, meaningful relationships with all these drugs.
And then you end up being lifelong members of the pharmaceutical giants because you can never stop.
And suicide rates climb dramatically after transitioning. So they're liars and
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they are stealing your kids' happiness and they're stealing their identity.
And that's got to stop. And it's going to stop because people like us coming after them, period.
You don't touch our kids.
Over. Over and out on that. Absolutely.
You know, as a punk rocker, you know, it's kind of funny to see that,
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you know, that is the genre.
That is the mentality that raged against the machine so long ago.
And nowadays, we seem to have this almost uniform mentality.
Compliance or allegiance to this lgbtqia movement and where are the people raging against,
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this this impulse you know it's coming from the top down so it's not like it's
organically in our midst you know just people just wanted to raise this movement
so it seems like something that you know people who would realize what was going
on would want to push back against Well, it's fear,
you know, the fear of being called a transphobe, a fear that they will be ostracized
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from their community if they stand up,
you know, and that's been injected into the far, into the left,
into the progressive left.
They use fear and they use bullying to do this.
And if, you know, being called names, you know, they used to say sticks and
stones may break my bones.
You know what? Names will never hurt me. Wrong. They use language to attack
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anyone that even slightly does not agree with them.
And they use defamatory language, and they shout you down, and they make you go away.
But the thing is, is, you know, we have mouths too.
And I have really realized over the last year dealing with these transgender.
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You know, I'm sorry, activists, you know, cult activists, that you have to fight
fire with fire with them.
And I've gotten really good at it because I speak their language.
And once I start speaking their language, they back off because they can't debate
what is actually the truth.
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The truth, you cannot deny it.
It's an instinctual thing. And
when you instinctively know that the truth is in the room, you shut up.
And that's what's happening with them. They cannot mutilate our children, period.
Or we're going to dropkick them into hell. And that is exactly what we're going
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to do, Robert, because there is no other choice.
Right. And I love your fire. That is the fire that we need to see from every
single parent at these school board meetings,
whether or not you have kids, if you're a member of the gay community and you
oppose this, it takes a ferocious attitude in order to combat what is coming
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down from every single direction.
And that's not going to stop unless we truly push back with that kind of thing.
All you have to look at is, I mean, the progressive left, just look at the administration
right now that we have that is destroying everything.
And the way they talk, their rhetoric on all the major news channels,
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unfortunately, NBC, ABC, CBS, we can't find any.
Even moderate right-leaning you know news anywhere they are they are coming at us,
in in with a veracity that honest to god i learned from them and for that i'm
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grateful because i've learned from them how to fight back and i really wish
that the republican party would fight fire
with fire, but they don't.
And the thing is, is that, well, I learned from that.
And therefore, you know, you're going to throw it at me. I'm going to throw
it back a hundred times harder.
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And because, you know, again, Robert, we know what's at stake.
Our humanity is at stake. Right. Children.
I mean, there is no coming back from this.
They have to be smashed. all of them
all of them and parents have to feel
supported that they can stand up as well and so that is why this is to me a
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calling it's a calling like the microphone and the stage was for me when i was
15 and it's a calling in you know like becoming a chainsaw artist in in 2000 2021,
it's a calling.
And this is the strongest calling I've ever had.
Because I love children. And I also, I've been there.
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When I was 14, I was introduced to Bowie.
And I just, I'm a twin. My twin was the popular one.
And I was just kind of this meat surfer chick.
And it wasn't until I I saw my Diamond Dogs concert at the Universal Amphitheater
in 74 that it was like the sky.
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Of course, it was an amphitheater. The skies were open, but I mean, the skies opened.
And I knew in that moment that I was supposed to do this, to be on stage and
to play music, to sing rock and roll.
And also, but yet, I didn't know who I was because I was only 14.
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So I would emulate David Bowie, like Joan Jett would Suzy Cuatro.
We pretended to be our heroes until we could figure it out ourselves.
And probably if this had happened today, they would have had me on cross hormones. I was bisexual.
They would have said, you're really a guy, you know, a man or a guy.
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Because I was only a kid, in a girl's body, and I would have bought it.
I would have bought it hook, line, and sinker back then.
And what would have happened to me? Because it was a phase.
You know, don't get me wrong, I love women. I always loved women.
But my preferences became a man. I loved men.
What would have become of me? If we would have had these awful,
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horrible activists pushing this on me, I would have lost my breasts.
I would have lost probably my life because, you know, the depression after after,
you know, this whole romanticized idea of being able to just change your gender like that.
It's a lie and then these kids
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are left with scar bodies guard minds and
they think who's ever gonna want me now i mean how would they how dare they
do this the impressionable children robert it's the most insidious evil thing
i've ever seen in my 65 years on this planet.
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It's happening. Absolutely. And, you know, so glad that you are in alignment with this.
You understand you're a great spokesperson for this cause.
I know that you've been de-platformed from Facebook for speaking your mind.
I know you had an Arizona concert that they canceled on you.
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If you're in arizona we have a whole
lot of people who feel the same way but we do have this
little ruling class over here that has found
its way through illegitimate means into office and
even though this is more of a organizational decision it's just kind of flavoring
everything you can't get into anywhere where these you know dei influences aren't
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holding sway over our life paths. Yeah.
What do you think is going to be, you know, you've already, you've already put it, pushed it.
And this is where we need to push it because we are at a point of no return.
You know, the time of compromise is over this, you know, there's too little,
too late, anything less really.
So what needs to happen on a, in the school board levels in order to get these
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changes reverted in order for people to wake up? Do you think, And we just smash them.
I mean, if we have to walk in there, I mean, an army of us, and dropkick them out into the street.
That's what we would have done in the 90s when my son was young.
There would have been blood in the gutters. For some reason,
these people are so emboldened that they can literally feel that they are more
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justified to parent your child.
They have a big wake-up call coming, Robert. I mean, and yes,
my child is grown. He's 33 years old.
But as far as I'm concerned, every child that is being affected by these maniacs, they're my child.
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And they will not compromise, though we will not compromise either.
You know, this is, their time is up, Robert, their time is up.
And they, the left, the progressive left, are the party of violence.
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They're the party of riots, the burning cities down and egging people on.
And then they turn around and they, you know, they say that,
you know, the right conservatives, where are the bad ones?
Where are the ones inside? They're just the biggest liars. They think we're so stupid.
But this is a part of an agenda that I believe is called Agenda 21.
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You know, ushered in by Bill Clinton back in 1992, but I will say bipartisan because Bush Sr.
Is the one that accepted it as the new world order for the United States of
America, knowing it would take 30 years to brainwash children to be their little soldiers.
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And the only thing that stopped it was, you know, because Hillary Clinton was
supposed to usher it in. He was the perfect person.
One thing they didn't expect was Donald Trump.
And Donald Trump stopped it because this one world agenda is not going to fly with Donald Trump.
And, you know, to me, I think it's a divine intervention. But the problem is,
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is that thank God for COVID or
we would not have known what was happening behind the scenes for our kids.
And with every ill intention that the left has had in these globalists and elites,
you know, they've invested a lot of time and money in making this a one world government.
So I understand why they have gone after this man from the time he was elected.
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Look, I didn't want him to run again. I was tired of all the,
you know, just never ending awfulness of the media and that they never seemed
to really give him any credit or let him do his job.
But the bottom line is he's shown his fortitude and his strength with all of
these, you know, different, you know, accusations.
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And, you know, they're taking him to court for this and for that.
You know, you raped someone that doesn't even remember the year.
I was kidnapped in in in 1977 by a murderer who had murdered six women.
You don't forget when you're raped. You don't forget what time of year it was,
and you don't forget the year. So she's a liar.
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So all I see is lies and lies and lies to justify this one world government.
But the thing is, is that we have guns.
And I don't want anyone to forget that. And we're never going to give them up. And you know what?
In the Constitution, Second Amendment was written for exactly this reason.
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And the way they've treated police, the way they've treated the greatest among
us, they deserve to get some payback if they decide to step over that line.
Because I would definitely be more than happy to train and be someone on the
front lines like my father was in World War II.
They don't understand that if they were going to
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really pull this off they needed to wait until people like
me died off and then they could have had the world that
they wanted but coming after our kids was
their biggest mistake and now it's
all being shown in vivid
technicolor to you and i and so
many others what this agenda
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really is a depopulation agenda
it's it's it's evil
it is it's pure evil like you
said i i think it was september 11th 1991 or
two when george bush came out and said that
we will have a new world order and it's been
so-called conspiracy theory ever since and
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and now i mean i even got this old book
here from i don't know 1993 written by pat robinson called
the new world order and i opened it up and everything that's happening is square
right there you got agenda 21 right there i've got agenda 21 this is from the
united nations program of action from rio de janeiro somebody gave this to me
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it's all in black and white what they're doing.
They don't want you to own property. They don't want you to have freedom.
And here in California, again, had Hillary won, we would not recognize the world at all. But again.
It's evil what they're doing, and we're just going to stop it.
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We have no choice. We just don't have a choice.
Like I said, there's people like
me who came from parents of World War II heroes, and that's in our DNA.
They screwed up, Robert. They screwed up. They just couldn't wait.
They just couldn't wait a little longer.
Now we're going to have to kick their ass, and that's just the way it is.
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It is just the way it is. is how do we get more parents to your level of awareness, would you think?
Based on, you know, we got so many parents waking up like crazy.
And we've got most anybody you'll talk to will tell you it's wrong.
But we do need to get pissed off and active before, you know,
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these attacks are going to be able to slow down.
And we're going to need a lot of people all over the place to wake up.
And most people don't have school-age kids, so they're not seeing what's happening
in the schools these days, and maybe they're not paying attention.
Well, the number one enemy to anyone is fear.
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There's two kinds of fear. There's healthy fear, like when I start a chainsaw,
I wear gear to protect myself.
And then there's an unhealthy fear where I can't even go near the chainsaw.
The thing is, is that people need to leave their fear at the door and they need
to look at the consequences of not acting.
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They have to look that children will blame them for a world that's absolutely fallen apart.
And they're going to think of them as cowards. And we're not cowards.
We're not. But don't be afraid of the noise, of the high voices yelling at you.
Tune them out. And you fight them as hard as they, harder than they fight you.
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And bottom line is you've got good on your side.
It's good versus evil. And you remember that.
And that should take that fear away. And you remember, I would take a bullet.
It, I would, for a child like that, I mean, nothing would stand in my way to
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save a child if I saw him walking into the street.
I'd take the car, throw the child.
I mean, it's instinctual.
And don't give a damn about how people look at you.
Don't think that that's important, Because eventually they're going to see the
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nobility and and that they are on the wrong side of history and you have to do what's right.
You do have to do what's right. You do got to stand with the truth.
The scriptures say, for instance, because they have not attained unto a love
of the truth, I have sent them a strong delusion that they should believe a lie.
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And regardless of whether or not you're religious or not, we all know if you're
not holding to the truth, you can't help but fall into the lie.
And the thing is, is again, and I said this a little earlier,
the truth cannot be denied. eye.
When somebody is truthful, it goes to your soul.
I mean, you're impacted by it, you're moved by it, you're moved by the truth.
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Lies are like, they're like a person, you know, dressed up in,
you know, in a clown costume.
I mean, you see it, you know, as a superficial, it doesn't,
it does nothing for the soul the truth
is what feeds the soul and you
can pick out a liar a hundred feet away when you fine-tuned yourself to exactly
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that and i've had the opportunity to do that through x and through being attacked
constantly by these rabid you know progressive oppressive,
transgender activists, whatever you want to call them.
And you can even like look at, it's so unfortunate, you know,
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with this free Palestine movement.
And these kids have been so brainwashed that they, and they're calling for genocide against the Jews.
And yet they're against genocide. And they're just, this is what,
this is what our universities and our schools have taught kids is not to learn,
because in Agenda 21, it says math.
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There is no place for math in a world of work.
I mean, it's about social justice in their eyes, but it's actually injustice for the world.
And how can you.
How can you possibly stand with these these kids for Palestine?
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I mean, 90 percent of them cheered when the Twin Towers were hit.
They're born and raised from as little as they can hold a fake gun to hate Jews
and to hate America and to kill Jews.
I mean, they're in schools, you know, they they sing songs that their songs
in in their kindergarten is about killing Jews.
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About hating americans killed and and they have knives and they pretend to stay
i mean it's it's the sickest thing ever and you want to free palestine as far
as i'm concerned i would have been happy with israel after that attack on the
7th that turned the place to glass to get rid of
this awful subhuman Neanderthal, thousands of years of barbariness.
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Barbaric. Barbaric, man. Yeah, barbaric, yeah.
Yes, barbaric living, and the Quran, and it's just.
I mean, literally, you just sit, And you can't even believe what you're seeing.
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You know, I mean, they were the ones that lop off people's heads,
not even lop them off. I mean, slowly like this.
I mean, those are not human beings.
And this is who our kids want to be like.
And they know nothing of Sharia law. I think they should go to a Muslim nation
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and find out what that is.
And they better not steal a loaf of bread or even
a little trinket because they'll lose their hand for that right
in public on a block and i
think that would shock shock them into reality so right now we're just surrounded
with insanity robert i mean we absolutely are on all fronts you know the people
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particularly we've got the the gays for palestine they don't realize that they're
They're over there throwing them off of buildings.
You can see it right on X. You can see it wherever.
Head first, they want them to go. And then they'll continue to stone their bodies
once they hit the ground.
And that is, you know, this is the mentality that's really bringing people into,
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you know, among other things, a whole social Marxism.
We're bringing people into a way of thinking. Now, that in particular is destroying
people's moral compass or not thinking for themselves.
But then in the schools, you know, before they get to college and they start
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to get indoctrinated with that, like you said, they are bombarded with.
The indoctrination of these social justice causes and they they can't read they
can hardly write they don't understand the basics but they are sure going to come and scorn you.
For holding any sort of traditional value not understanding what this country
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is built on and they true yeah they change history they rewrite history history
is is really an enemy to the left.
And it's unbelievable that you could even watch some of these videos from the
seventh and see how they treated the hostages after they were thrown in the back of a truck.
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I mean, kicking them, they were helpless.
Kicking and beating them, they're already bloody women that have been raped
with rings of blood around their inner thighs.
And how these people can be so So desensitized and that kind of brutality to
me is the blame is fully on these professors and these.
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What was his name? Ayers, Bill Ayers, who was part of the Velvet Underground.
He he was a terrorist and attempted to and blew up a lot of places.
And he became a professor at one of these very, you know, higher echelon universities. Universities.
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And that always stumped me. How could that be?
I mean, he's a terrorist and he's teaching our kids.
Once you once you go to that level, it's in you.
It's who you are. And it's all part of some kind of plan because there cannot
be any DEI when it comes to terrorists.
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I mean, yeah. Right. Exactly. We have these students in the colleges.
And I want to get back to talking about the younger kids, too,
particularly influences by this.
But we see that they are just saying, like, I'm getting paid to do activities
that support Palestine. It's coming from George Soros.
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And so they don't even have their own center. It's like, oh,
what's the next big thing?
Oh, what do I need to get angry about here to get paid?
And, you know, they are mindless drones, useful idiots at that point.
I mean, it was BLM too, right, Robert? I mean, it was BLM. And Antifa is,
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you know, the right arm of Soros, you know, and Soros is all about chaos and
bringing down the United States.
He's completely responsible for all of this insanity that we're going through.
And we get these kids, they come out of high school, they go to college,
they do this, they get trained up as teachers, and then they return back to
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the classroom as activists for these causes.
And between the teachers' unions, between that education and the incentives
to push these ideologies, they become
the indoctrinators of a much younger generation, the next generation.
All the while, parents have no idea why their kids are lashing out at them because
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they have no idea what they've been had shoved down their throats and down their
eardrums all day, every day.
Layla, stop, please, honey. No, absolutely, absolutely right.
I'm so sorry about my dog. Hello, Layla. Layla? Layla! No.
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Yeah. Well, what we are seeing truly, you know, especially with the children,
again, I mean, this is something you would only expect to see in a movie.
You wouldn't expect, some horror film. You wouldn't expect this to be real, you know?
Taking kids away from their parents if they don't use the correct pronouns. Are you kidding me?
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I mean, unfortunately, I feel the only way out of this is to absolutely dismantle
whatever government, the teachers union, it's got to go.
It's got to go. I mean, they've lost all trust and faith now. Parents have.
Citizens have. They're teaching our children filth. I mean, some of the books I've seen is so lewd.
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I mean, I mean, I would I would.
There was a movie called Billy Jack back in the 70s where, you know,
the star had seen heard about somebody being raped and he goes,
I just go berserk and he does all this karate.
I mean, that is what is in my head.
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I would go berserk if I saw that in my kids' school.
I mean, heads would roll, and I would not stop until they were behind bars for it.
How they're able to talk these parents
into believing that this is okay and that
this this is the new normal just goes
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to show how easily people have been brainwashed over the
last you know decade but you know what like you were talking earlier about soros
and i mean you know blm it was antifa coming in and antifa has continued and
been present at all the riots It's all everything with Palestine as well. They are the enforcers.
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They're the enforcers for the kids that really, like you say,
you know, they're getting paid.
They're getting paid to, you know, to be a voice for the poor Palestinians.
And, you know, these are monsters, Soros and these elites, they're monster.
And, you know, they think they're safe. They're not.
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They're not safe. If I was Elon Musk, if I had billions and billions of dollars,
I would put a price on their heads. Absolutely.
Happily. I wish I wish I had the money to do it because I would.
These are people that need to be taken out.
Yeah, you know, the old-fashioned days of justice seem a little too distant
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for what we're going through right now.
Oh, I love you, Robert. That's so true.
Yeah, the town square, little horse action, you know, drawn quarter action, you get my drift?
You know, nothing like a good old noose on a nice summer day.
Firing squad. The thing is, is that maybe, who knows, if they continue,
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that's where it's going to lead.
And that's only going to be them. them
that has caused it because they've
literally brought us to a point of primal rage
primal rage robert right yeah
acts of treason no longer get treated in the same way it's it's brushed away
forgotten about tomorrow and the news media is there to support that you know
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what i see also as part of this broader agenda you know they say oh well we
need laws that they don't require for for instance,
voting because they say black people don't know how to get their IDs.
So they're surrendering black people. They say that we need to put porn in schools
because the gays are there, and that's what the gays need.
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So they got these roundabout ways of sticking their own foot in their mouth,
and people don't realize that they're being insulted at the same time that they're
having their dignity compromised.
Did they really say that, that they need porn in schools because gays need porn?
Well, they don't phrase it that way, but that's exactly what they're saying.
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They're saying that this is part of giving a fair sex education to the gay youth.
They don't say they're sexualizing the youth. They say that they're trying to
stay open and inclusive.
And that's a very slanderous statement.
Insinuation that robert that infuriates me
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i mean these people are sick they are
sick and they do not they cannot be
around children these people they cannot you know
they've showed their hand now time we cut it off i mean honestly i cannot believe
that but i do believe it i do believe it because you know they say oh they're
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banning books trust me i'm i'm in california i've got that gruesome Gavin Newsom, his governor here,
a guy that, you know, when he took office five years ago, we had 55 million,
55 billion in, you know, in the black as a surplus.
And now just five years later, we are 564 billion in the hole.
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And he also illegally gave 50, about 53 million to illegals, which is illegal.
And the feds want the money back. We're the highest taxed.
And also he has offered free sex changes and any kind of gender affirming care
to all illegals, adults and children on the taxpayer's dime.
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But the very worst is that he is asking any child from any other state in the
United States to come to California.
We'll take care of them. and have against without
their parents knowledge and give them the drugs
or the surgeries that they want on the taxpayer dime
this man has got i mean he should be put in prison for this he really should
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i mean he's as evil as they come he's all part of it he's all part of this far
left progressive agenda he's giving alcohol to alcoholics giving them in san
francisco on the the streets,
giving them an array of different alcohols to drink.
That's not how you treat. And I'm an alcoholic. That's not how you treat an alcoholic.
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You get them help, you get them, you wean them off the alcohol, and you get them sober.
And all he's doing is keeping them drunk and killing themselves. He is a disgrace.
I mean, you know. Yeah, it's so hard to watch that, you know,
Gavin Newsom in particular.
And especially during COVID. I mean, everything he says gaslights you. Yeah.
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Yeah. You know, I don't have a kid right now. Now, if I did,
there's no way I would do anything else other than homeschool my kid.
There's no safe place for a kid in a school. I certainly hope you have a kid,
Robert. You would just be the greatest dad.
I just love you. You know, I'm so lucky that I have a sense about people.
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I really do. That is a gift, probably from, you know, the kind of hell of a life that I had.
But it's a gift that I cherish. And you are an absolutely fantastic human being and will be a great dad.
So I certainly hope you have a child because it's a gift and a love that you
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never even thought possible.
It's a whole nother level of love.
And I truly feel sorry for people that will not ever experience that.
You'd be a dad, Robert. Thank you. You'd be a dad. A kid would be very lucky
to have you. Thank you very much.
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You know, the scariest part about it all is the world they would have to grow up into.
I mean, they better be reincarnated from an age of battle for what the world
they're going to enter into.
And that's the hardest part because, you know, as much as I myself would love
to have a kid, And like you said, I think I really could be a really great dad.
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No, no. But I'm going to have to stop you because the thing is,
is that, you know, you're already the soldier that you need to be.
You're already making a difference.
It isn't going to be laying at their feet. This is our job. We allowed this
to happen. We have to finish it.
Robert, this is not a world that you need to worry about your children being
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raised in. We are going to fix it.
If I die trying, I'm fine with that. But this is our job now.
And I know that you're up for it. You're doing great.
Thank you. You are. Thank you so much.
Yeah, I'm willing to take this to go to the grave on this issue.
There's nothing left after you've completely demolished the next generation.
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So there's no reason to stand by and get comfortable.
Because after it's all said and done, you've got nothing to look forward to.
So either fight or die. Exactly.
Yeah, that's what it's got to be. I feel honored, you know,
I mean, I'll be 65 in November and I actually feel honored that I can stand,
you know, in for my father and and do absolutely everything that's necessary. I'm a good shot, too.
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I mean, if it comes to that, I'm totally up for it.
I mean, it will present itself to me, whatever it takes to keep the United States
of America, because we are the last hope.
And I'm sure you saw, I'm sure you saw the video in the UK was at some festival.
And I don't know who was on that stage, but I believe he could have been one
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of the, maybe one of the singers in one of these rock bands.
But he called and he says, Donald Trump, you're the last person that can save us.
Please, please save America and save the world from this agenda.
And I mean, and I'm going over there. I was not looking forward to it,
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but now I am, because the West, they've woken up, you know?
The United States are dragging their heels because they are just kicking and screaming.
They don't want to give up this dream of some utopia that can never,
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ever, ever happen, you know?
I mean, it's not utopia for us, for them maybe, but we got to do what we got to do, Robert.
That's all. We have to, and we got to be brave.
Let that inner lion, let it roar.
I mean, there is no other choice right now. And we're right at that,
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thanks to Gays Against Groomers, you know, really, really sounding the alarm
years ago, now two years ago.
If it wasn't for Jamie coming up with this, to be honest with you,
I don't really know what would have happened.
You know, he has played an integral part in this. I feel like this is an archetypal
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sort of cause, which has probably come down from higher planes.
If she wouldn't have picked up this mantle, I would hope that somebody else
would have ended up doing it because I just don't see how this void could be
left without being filled.
No one else has, though. No one else has? yeah
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i mean libs for tiktok or i
mean it's different but nobody else has jamie's the only one that has no you
know they would show themselves it's you know i mean and what i love so much
about her is she doesn't even understand really how how.
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Important she is to the entire world for what she's done.
And you too, Robert. Yes. Thank you. And I throw it back at you.
Likewise. I tell Jamie that all the time.
I think about her mom. Her mom passed.
And I think about how proud she would be if she could see what she's accomplished.
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It's such an important thing. It's such a big deal. Like you said,
nobody else had done it, and still nobody else is doing it.
We should have multiple gay organizations standing up against us,
but we're standing out here kind of alone with stragglers running around saying,
I agree with you, and they go.
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Go and if we don't if
we don't come together you know this tacit agreement
that the gay community is really putting off is going
to continue not only to create the appearance of mass gay acceptance but it's
also going to continue to lower the the acceptance of gays themselves within
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you know it's going down people are like i don't know if i could trust any more
gay marriage gen z's like
down on gay marriage because look what's happening in the name of the gays.
Yeah. And I mean, I fought for gay marriage. I mean, I, I, I lost a lot of friends
and say, lovey, good bye. Okay.
That was, to me, just a great, a great day.
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And then to see, you know, again, poison, it creeps. I look at this trans cult as like black mold.
Start small, and if left unchecked, it creeps in the walls, and it ruins the
foundation, ruins the entire house.
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It's unlivable. And that is what this trans movement has done,
is it has made life unlivable for us,
for our children, and they are the black mold in this country and in the West, in my opinion.
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So we need to eradicate this ideology.
It's just wrong and of course robert you know i
mean i i my most of my friends are
gay i love i love lgbt i
was in my first gay pride grade in in
76 of these 48 years
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i've stood up for gay oh i
mean how could i not i i i love you i
love them they are part of my life they're
my best friends and to see the decimation
of something that of all that hard work all that
hard work to be accepted and to have the right to marry be literally just a
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rug be pulled out from underneath you because that the trans you know cult had
to take it so far that it just makes everything turns everything to black and.
But you guys are the ones that are going to stop it, too. You know,
I mean, just look at what you're doing. Look at we get to sit and talk, Robert.
I mean, it's such a great thing.
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You know, it's a great thing.
And I honestly know it's going to end. I do. I'm not afraid or have any doubt. No doubt whatsoever.
Like you said. Yeah. You know, it's good against evil and good will win. There's no doubt.
And, you know, core to what you were just saying, love.
You love the gays. We need to, we love everybody. If we're not coming from a
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place of love, if we're coming from a place of rage and bitterness,
which is where these activists are coming from, they just want to drive the whole world into hell.
You know, Rob, they hate women. They hate women. I mean, being called a cis woman.
I mean, a cis woman. They called me a cis woman. I was like, what is that?
I know. I hate it. And then when I heard, oh, you're a biological woman, it's like, I just had it.
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And then I posted that thing on X, you know, I mean, I was furious because they
literally loathe the very people that emulate.
They loathe us. They come into women's sports and decimate it and take away girls' dreams.
I mean, and then you get people thinking that that's raw, rawing it.
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It's like, are you out of your effing minds?
What if that one child, that one child is more important than the slew of girls
that you just destroyed and took away any possible, you know, gift of a scholarship?
And you think that one child was more important than the 20 other girls running against him.
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It's it's literally insane.
And it's not even helping that one child. You're affirming mental illness.
This what we have right now is a
social contagion which is spread through conversation it's
spread through the propaganda in the indoctrination it's instilling
the body dysmorphia the gender dysphoria that whole confusion it gives them
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70 80 varietal varietals of queerism to identify with and you don't you're telling
me they're not going to come out confused even depressed you know when And they're
like, why don't I connect to the world?
And, you know, like we were saying, you know, the suicide rate triples.
It goes from just over 1% after transitioning.
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It doesn't go down. It goes from just over 1 point something percent up to just
over 3 point something percent of those people then find themselves. And what do you know?
You've completely mutilated your genitals. There goes your love life.
There goes possibility of a sex life procreation. there goes its sense of normalcy.
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Bobby Starbuck put out a film recently called The War on Children.
I've watched it four times. Yes.
Okay. I'm only two times. Best thing I've ever seen. Best depiction.
The greatest journalism I've ever seen.
And I follow him on X. And I absolutely love he and his wife.
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Just fantastic, fantastic film. Yeah. We're going to have, I think, Landon on.
I think that's his wife's name. and yeah i'm
looking forward to that until he comes on too he brought up
something in that film called the mere exposure effect
it's this whole it's the concept of
hey i just hold any wild idea in front of a giant audience and invariably some
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tiny percentage or so is going to pick it up and it's going to gain traction
they're going to adapt they're going to adopt these that little ideology into
their framework and they're going to become a useful idiot they're going to become
kind of a cancer spreading contagion of
sorts yeah and they're going to well you
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know i've got a question for you because this is the one thing that absolutely just
this was when i started when i turned on x turned from just being sheree courier
the runaways to an activist was these pronouns that they were demanding i mean
in the corporate corporate business world i mean in Disneyland.
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I mean, they're asking me, these young, especially the young trans,
they call themselves trans, you know that they're only like maybe 15,
16 just by the way they speak.
They say, why can't you call me
by my pronouns? It's like, because I don't give a shit if you don't mind.
You know? I mean, it's so narcissistic. You know, I don't understand and.
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I mean, and how many pronouns are there now? I mean.
You can make them up. They'll tell you, we make them up.
So there's infinite in that way. It's an absolute invasion to every one of us
that just, you know, that don't want to be.
First of all, they used to have, what was it? No labels.
Remember that one? Remember that one, Robert?
No labels. And now everything is labeled. It's the hypocrisy.
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But it's the invasion into my privacy,
into my into my peaceful life who insist that if a man walks up and I hear him
speaking behind me and I say, I'm sorry, sir.
And all of a sudden he goes, it's me.
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I'm not a sir. I go by she, her, you know, I am a woman.
I want this woman kicked out of here or this, this woman kicked out of here.
You know, it's like unbelievable, man. It's ridiculous.
It's insane.
And we've got these people pushing this stuff up in corporate America, in Hollywood.
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The executives in Hollywood demanding that we use pronouns.
Yes, like you sons of bitches, you just stop it because we're done with you. We're done.
And I mean, they don't know when to stop, do they, Robert? They don't know when
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to stop. They were ahead. They were ahead.
And I almost felt like Jack Nicholson there for a second. They were ahead.
And now they've just it's blown up like a atom bomb right in their faces.
Well, they they opened that endless can of worms when they started allowing
themselves to identify as inanimate objects.
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You know, I am mattress mattress self.
I am vape vape self.
I am water bottle water bottle self. And you have these weird people on TikTok.
Let me clown show starfish starfish self pronouns. Yeah. Clown show.
Thanks to Joe Biden. Thanks, Joe Biden.
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Hiring a kleptomaniac cross-dresser that looks like Matt Damon in drag that
is stealing people as a nuclear waste manager.
It's making a mockery out of not only the office, but a mockery out of LBGTQ.
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It's a mockery.
They use the most extremist people and they try to parade them as normal.
And you know what? I'm sorry. It goes against. They're not normal.
It goes against every fiber. And that is something that is born into us.
That is not something that you can teach someone like me after all these years.
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I mean, what have I got? Maybe 10, 15 years left on this planet. You can't deprogram me.
That's an impossibility, right?
Yeah. Hopefully, you know, I don't want you to be deprogrammed of all people.
No, it's not going to happen. And you neither. I mean, it's never going to happen.
I mean, you know, I feel that God, and I do believe in God.
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I believe in Jesus Christ. I absolutely do.
And I feel that it's a
that it is a gift when you have us when you have sight that your ears know the
difference between lies and the truth and your eyes know when something is absolutely wrong.
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Wrong and that nothing and all the talk
and all the conversations isn't going
to change that nada never and
i believe we are we have we have a job to do you know and i feel we were chosen
to do that and meeting you you know what a lovely human being you are and god
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i'm in good company Robert,
really, I'm in such good company to meet you and, you know, to know Jamie and everybody else and Amy.
You know, the movie Leaving Amy.
And I do want us to say, you know, please, they're coming out here to shoot
at my home for three days.
Susan Olsen is getting involved as well. and that I really, really want people,
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if they can, to donate even the meagerest amount.
I've donated as much as I can right now, but to get this movie done and to save
children, leaving Amy.com and see the trailer.
And if that trailer doesn't move you to tears, especially when Amy calls out
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to Jesus, help me, you know, Jesus, and then it was just...
The most amazing warmth, you know, and support came to her when she was, you know, agnostic.
And these are things, you know, I couldn't carve if I didn't believe that there
was a power greater than myself because it's too dangerous a job.
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So I always kneel and I always pray for God to protect me in the name of Jesus
Christ before I fire up that saw. And for 22 years, you know, so far, so good.
And otherwise, I mean, the loneliness and the fear would overtake me if I didn't believe.
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I strongly recommend that believe in a power greater than yourself.
It's a really healthy thing to do.
It really is. And I think it's the crux of all of the problems everybody's having.
They're lost because they're not looking to some principles,
some element higher than themselves.
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Instead, they're looking at their body like it's a god. They're looking at their
life as though it's the end-all be-all.
And they're fiddling around in a sandbox instead of looking at the big picture.
Exactly. Well, they're narcissists.
They're narcissists. You have to be, and they've been programmed that way.
I've never seen a movement so narcissistic and self-absorbed than this trans cult movement.
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You know they want us to do everything for
them and they give us absolutely nothing in return and i
really noticed that when they were attacking me
ferociously and that
and in real time i was trying to stop a detransitioner from killing himself
and i asked these trans people to help me i said here is this is his page please
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help me because he's talking about killing himself right would you please help me? And they blocked me.
They would not help. And that's when I knew it doesn't follow their agenda.
It doesn't follow their narrative.
And they don't give a damn if that man killed himself or not.
And that was when everything turned for me. And then it was full force.
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There was no stopping me.
I don't care what happens to me. I don't care if I never sing again on stage.
I am not, I have no choice.
You understand, we have no choice anymore.
Because what we're up against are people like that, that don't care.
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You know, that hits the nail on the head of exactly what brought me into Gaze Against Rumors.
Because when I started to see everything that was happening in the schools,
at first I said, no, couldn't be.
Maybe it's isolated, some weirdo over there. Then another story, then another story.
And I said, okay, if this is really happening, I literally have no choice but
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to run into the line of fire.
Because there's nothing more pressing than that. It's just I have to make sure
it's real, that it's a real cause.
And I'm telling you, I don't have to tell you. I don't have to tell our listeners.
Maybe some of them need to know, but it is a daily occurrence.
It's getting worse. It's getting more intelligent.
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They are getting more insidious in the implementation of these indoctrinations
with your kids, the homework assignments.
They got fisting kits going out to
kids you got drag queen story hour
you know with their indoctrination element you've
got what goes on at pride and these all age everything
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drag show pride everything that should not you
know like you were saying earlier i mean i myself would have fallen into
the trans ideology when i was young because it would
have explained my gayness i could have said oh i'm
just a woman and now i'm straight again that's you know we got to protect the
kids from these disgusting ideas well sherry curry you are an absolute pleasure
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you are you yourself are a cherry bomb cherry bomb okay i had to do that and,
and thank you so much for standing up doing what you're doing aligning with
this mission you know it's absolutely necessary that we have people like you
on board would you share with everybody,
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your social media contact, how they can reach you and any projects you want to share?
Oh, no, no.
You can find me on X. I think it's Cherie Curry 3.
Facebook, I don't even really go there anymore because they censor everything
and they've lost so many people because of that.
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You could Google me. I don't care. I'm not out to sell anything.
It doesn't even matter to me anymore i am going on tour in europe and i'll post
that stuff on x uh two tours of europe this year uh one of the uk and one of
europe and uh otherwise you have a website.
Actually i don't know okay well and
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i used to i mean sheree curry.com but i
don't i don't keep that up i just i stick with
x and and social media in
that way but but anyway you know robert may i just say that i absolutely love
you i love you i love you you are i mean it's so funny because it's like all
the tears come to my eyes when you meet somebody that's so darn good you know So really,
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it's such an honor to meet you.
And I appreciate you so very much, Robert.
Thank you. Thank you for your very deep love. I can feel it. And I love you too.
I hope we do this again. I have to see you again. Yes, absolutely.
We'll have you back on again.
And for everybody listening, you can go to gazeagainscroomers.com.
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Thanks a lot. Sure. You have a great day. You too, darling. I love you.
Thank you. Love you, too.