The Demand Disruption Podcast

Advocating for social justice can be exhausting. But what if the problem is our approach? In this episode, survivor advocates and demand experts shift the conversation from being "against" trafficking to being "for" restoration — exploring pornography's role, buyer rehabilitation, and the power of consistent, compassionate relationships to create lasting change.

Through frontline stories and practical examples, they explain how lis...

Why is change so hard—even when we want to do better? In this episode, the producer of The Demand Disruption Podcast and certified health coach, Christa Mayfield, unpacks what we get wrong about making changes and how we can actually transform from the inside out. Drawing from her extensive experience and trauma-informed education, Christa shares how our beliefs inform our actions and the science-based approach to understanding our...

Our young people are facing a totally new world and, as Hannah, our high school senior guest, reminds us in this eye-opening episode, it's their "first time living." Join us as Phuong and Hannah get candid about what it's like to be a teenager in this day and age, the reality of hookup culture in high school, and the impact of porn and social media on our younger generations. Hannah u...

Victoria Sinis worked as a marketer and recruiter for a powerful OnlyFans agency in Australia - until she couldn't do it anymore. She visited Texas earlier this year to record this powerful conversation about the inside workings of OnlyFans accounts and the deep connection between the platform and the demand for commercial sex that Demand Disruption works to combat. Victoria, Joe, and Phuong talk about the pipeline from consuming c...

For an anti-human trafficking organization, we take a unique approach when talking about the issue: we almost never talk about trafficking. In this episode, Joe and Phuong break down why talking about human trafficking can only take us so far: the contributing factors are far more common and much more preventable. From the p.rn-driven sales cycle, to kids with unmet needs and unsupervised time, we break down issues that happen long...

In this episode of the Demand Disruption Podcast, survivor leader Tracy Dudley shares her lived experience from a painful childhood to life on Telephone Road — the rise of her alter-ego 'Cadillac Red,' the descent into addiction and survival as a renegade, and the systems that drove her into commercial sex.

After a powerful healing journey, Tracy recognized that the skills that helped her survive in 'the game' could be used in her ...

Trafficking doesn't just happen one way; every trafficking survivor's story and experiences are unique. In this first of two interviews, writer, speaker, and advocate Angela Williams shares her journey from struggling in underserved Houston neighborhoods to experiencing sexual exploitation in Vegas, pimped in and through the music industry. Angela outlines the cultural influences and unmet needs that made her a prime target for tra...

Today's guest, Dr. Kevin Wilkinson Jr., weaves together his academic pursuits and law enforcement experience to give us unique insight into the landscape of the demand for commercial sex. Dr. Wilkinson Jr. formally studied Demand Disruption's "Escalation Dynamic," a flow chart built from years of experience and hundreds of interviews with men who were arrested for purchasing sex. His research corroborated Demand Disruption's theory...

In this rare and raw conversation, we unravel the intricate and often unnoticed factors that drive the demand for human trafficking. Brian Shillingburg, formerly arrested for solicitation of prostitution, shares his personal journey from being a principal caught in the cycle of addiction to finding redemption and purpose. His story sheds light on the unseen role of pornography in shaping behavior and the critical importance of self...

In a world where porn is acceptable and accessible, and sex is commercialized, we don't often notice the impact of our porn-prevalent culture. It's the water we're all swimming in. Yet, what happens when you take a deeper look? Explore how hidden cultural influences and systemic exploitation contribute to the demand for commercial sex in this eye-opening episode of the Demand Disruption Podcast. We broach tough topics, including th...

What if the factors that fuel human trafficking aren’t just forces out there—but right here, shaping the world we live in every day?