October 29, 2025 • 43 mins
Tired of living in a maze of baby gates, blocked rooms, and constant “no”? You’re not alone.
Many dog parents rely on physical barriers or harsh corrections to manage indoor behavior—but these quick fixes can backfire, creating more confusion and stress. In this episode, Em teams up with Jesús from Pawport to explore a smarter way to teach boundaries inside your home—one that builds calm, clarity, and communication.
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Understand why traditional indoor management often causes more stress than it solves
Learn how to teach boundaries using reinforcement—not restriction
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What if you could claim spaces in your home without gates,
drilling or constant management and your dog actually learned
the new rules? Welcome to Straight Up Dog Talk,
the podcast helping burned out pet parents who feel stuck with
their pup. Finally, let go of the guilt,
learn to communicate and build the bond you've always dreamed
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of through a partnership based approach that combines training,
nutrition, and enrichment instead of chasing the quick
fixes that don't actually work. I'm EM and in this episode
you'll learn how gentle indoor boundary tech teaches move away
equals reward when this tool fits and when it doesn't for
indoor management and simple home setups that make life
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easier without shame. Because peace at home isn't
stricter rules, it's clear communication.
Today I'm talking with Jesus from Pet Sensor, a behavior
focused tech product designed primarily for indoor use.
Let's jump in and talk about howPet Sensor works, who it's
really for, and why it might be the right solution.
Pet Sensor. It's a training method using an
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E collar designed to create boundaries inside the house
without having a physical boundary for the humans.
A really easy way to say is you don't want your dog to be on top
of the couch or you don't want the dog to be going to the
bedrooms. Everything that I was finding
when I was starting this processwas mostly physical fences that
you would actually have to put on the doors or I remember there
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was an electrostatic mat that you would actually put on the
and technically the dog would not go over it.
You find a lot of big things, a lot of things that actually
create real barriers in the house, not only for the dogs,
but also for the person. And so through the different
challenges that we'll go into them later on, I came out to
say, you know what, I don't think I'm finding it.
I think I'm going to have to go the other route.
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Let me try, if I can make something, I like to twink good
things a lot. Let me see if I can find
something that I can do that it would help in my house.
And that's how Pet Sensor came out to be.
It's a it's a funny story and westart from the beginning.
The reason for why we have a dog, why we have to find
something to, to create those boundaries.
And I think that's that's part of the whole project.
I think that a lot of people getdogs and they don't realize it's
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kind of like baby proofing the house when they have a toddler
that starts crawling or walking and climbing up on things.
Because dogs are curious, they get into things, they want to
smell things and explore things.And people who've never had
dogs, I don't think realize that.
And so sometimes they're not often prepared and a lot of the
options that are out there are very clunky and take up space
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and are heavy or you can't manage them by yourselves, or
you have to drill holes in your wall, all kinds of things like
that. And you don't have to do that
with PET sensor, which is, is really cool.
You guys actually sent me one and we did try it out.
And one of the things that I really like about it when it is,
you know, here's it is guys, it's just an E collar.
But the thing that I like about it is that you guys have 3
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modes. So it vibrates, it beeps and
then it also it does shock you guys.
But as you can see, I don't havethe little things on here.
So mine does not shock. I just use the beep or vibrate.
We have a kitten downstairs in our basement.
Now my roommate got a kitten andso we do have to have the gate
up because we don't want the catinteracting with the dog.
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But I also don't want the dog going downstairs to sniff the
cat or bother the cat. So we have one of the, I took it
off the fence so I could bring it up here, but we have the tag
that just just hangs up on the on the fence so that when he
gets to it, he just knows I'm not supposed to be here.
It beeps at him and he just backs away from it.
It's really great because literally guys, this is it, this
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is it. See this tiny little thing.
It's just a little bit bigger than I would say, maybe two
quarters. It's not very big and it's very
light. So it's nice that I don't have
to worry about having the clunkythings if I don't want to.
Do you want to talk a little bitabout the sensors and how they
were? Sure, sure.
So there's actually 3 sensors. You have the short, you have the
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long, and then you have the killswitch.
So funny thing is, you know, youStart learning through the
process and this was a whole learning experience from the
beginning. When we started, we were
thinking about a product that you can leave on your dog when
you're not at home so you could claim those areas and he
wouldn't get around. And then we end up finding out
that, you know, it comes to a point that it became more of a
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training than than a tool or a plug and play.
And it's extremely easy. The reason why we have three
different fobs is you have the short one.
So the short one is actually designed for small spaces.
I live in a big house, but we used to live in an apartment.
And so I would always think about if I put a range that is
way too big, the dog won't be able to move up around the
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apartment because you don't wanthim in the couch.
And that's pretty much covering your space behind the couch,
which is the hallway. And, and so I started tinkering
a little bit and say, you know what, what I need is two
different things. I need to be able to cover a
hallway. So if I don't want him to go
through a hallway or if I don't want him to go next to the door
when someone's ringing the bell,then I know I have 3 feet of
distance from the fault. And then I need a small one
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which I can actually put right inside my couch.
You just drop it under the cushion he can pass in front of
the couch with if not problem. As soon as he jumped into the
couch, he's going to start vibrating and beeping, giving
him the signal that he's not welcome there that he should
move forward to another thing. Now the important thing, and
this is how the product actuallyreally gets an impact on how he
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makes easy. The doc is not reacting to
something negative. He's reacting to A, to A, to
actually to a treat to a pet, because the whole idea is when
you start training with the collar, as soon as the beep and
the vibration happens, you are to call your dog, get him close
to you and then pet him, even a tree.
So he's going to start to actually relate those two
things. When he beeps and vibrates.
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If I step away, I'm rewarded andthat's the whole idea of it.
As you were saying, we have the collar, the collar mode.
I normally would tell people that I would not use it in 80%
of the cases with the dogs. The reason for that is they
learn really quick, so as soon as they hear the beep and the
vibration, they step away and they get close to you because
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you're already rewarding that action reaction system.
Now the shock is a little bit more for the extremely stubborn
dogs, the ones that they are a little bit more, the relation
between the alpha and the follower is not well defined in
the house. And so they're going to be
stubborn. They're going to say, no, I'm
staying here, I'm doing this. And that's where you need to
actually use the color a little bit just to give them the
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attentions. Just hey, your focus, listen,
something else. I want you to focus on me.
Come back to me. I'll treat you, I'll pet you.
I'll do whatever actually pleaseyou.
Normally you might use that onceor twice and that's as much as
you're ever going to use it. My E collar now has three years
is the same as yours. Mine does not have the prongs
on. I would tell you that mine does
not even have battery on most ofthe time.
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Because The thing is once you train them, they get used to
know when the collar's on. They're in game mode, they're in
training mode. And so it is funny because
Whistler, right now, he's on topof it in the couch.
My wife is not at home and hopefully she doesn't see this
video. But the whole idea is that I
don't mind him being in certain places.
And, and so I allow him to be there.
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But when he breaks that barrier or where he could be or where he
could not be, I normally tell him, hey, we're training, man,
sorry to bother you, but we're training.
I pull out the collar, He sits. He looks at me like, again,
really? And we go over the train.
So the training might just startto go every two or three months.
And The funny thing is he might not be wearing the, the collar
over those 2-3 months. He knows where he's not supposed
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to be. He knows where he's supposed to
be. And so every now and then he
just refreshed that training andit's really fun because you
could see that he understand that Weezer is actually trained
in 2E collars. So he's got the indoor E collar.
That's the one that I trained him with.
And then he, we have the Garmin adventure, which is what we used
to actually walk off leash in the streets.
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I've always had this feel how E collars, they're demonic,
they're bad. They're, I mean, you have to see
the face of this dog every time I pull the Garmin out because
he's no, he's going to the street, he's jumping all over
the place. He's happy.
He comes, he gets me to put his collar around and he jumps into
the street because he knows thatthat's good.
That's a way that he can go outside, he can play with me and
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it's not hurting. It's just months of the time.
I got to be honest, it's also batteries as well.
I mean, it's just it's one of those things that you don't need
to be active with it. You just need to train the dog
to know how to do something and to to understand the game.
And that's how I put it. Once he understands the game,
it's fun for everyone. I am the biggest and proudest
guy that you can find. When I'm walking my dog outside
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because he's off leash, I got my, I carry my leash around me
and he's running, he's jumping. And as soon as I see something
coming, hey, I see that you werea little too far, a little too.
Hey, come back with me, stay with me, walk with me.
And you know, he makes sense. I mean, he, he, he's, he's with
his owner, I'm with him. We walk together and every now
and then, hey, break, do whatever you want.
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He jumps, he enjoys, he comes back and it's just really nice.
It's really intuitive once you understand how to how to use it.
It's so funny that you mentionedthat about the battery being
dead because I told you before we started the recording that my
battery was dead and it's literally because we haven't had
to use it. It's so long.
He knows now the gate is just a no go zone and he doesn't go
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there anymore. Sometimes if we have company
over or something, I might put it back on.
I'm just reminded because he gets excited and he runs up and
down the stairs and he does things that he normally wouldn't
do. But if it's just us hanging out
here at home, he doesn't go downthere.
And it's, it's totally great because he doesn't even have to
have the caller on to know that's just, I don't go there
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anymore. It took a few times and now he
doesn't even try it. So I love that, you know, that,
you know, it is a pattern. It becomes the part of the
behavior. And once it's part of that
routine, then they just, they don't even need it anymore.
So it's great. I'm not going to set mine off,
but just because then he'll, he'll have a little bit of
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reaction if I do that because heknows and he'll be like, what
was I doing wrong? You know, or where's my treat?
And I don't have that either. So, but it's, it's not, I mean,
it's not loud. It's not a bad sound.
You have two modes. You can use it with E collar or
without the E collar. Without the E collar, we call
them cycles. The whole idea is there's going
to be a repeating cycle soon as you're close to the beacon, it's
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just going to start sounding andvibrating and you would do it
permanently as long as it's close to the FOP.
So the whole idea there is it's just annoying.
I mean, if you're a dog and you're stubborn and you get into
the top of the couch, what happens is it's going to beep on
vibrate, which honestly is not painful at all.
It's just annoying. And so eventually you would say,
you know what, I wanted to be here just to be peacefully and
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enjoy the rest. This is not the place.
I'm just going somewhere else. And so that is really helpful if
and this is where the if comes out, if you decided to use with
E color for whatever reason, obviously you need to trim that
level to your dog and whatever that level might be and not
depending on the height. All dogs are different.
The system is actually designed to protect the dog.
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So what's going to happen is you're going to have a first
cycle of vibration and beeping, then you have a going to have a
second cycle of vibration and beeping.
If he doesn't do anything on those two cycles, the next cycle
is going to include an Electro stimulus.
So it's going to be vibration, beeping and Electro stimulus.
That's going to happen two more times after that.
The E collar mode, he's going tobe completely disconnected for 5
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minutes. The whole idea for that is if
and this is where they they always come.
If the human is too dumb to put a lot of sensors around the home
without showing the dog how to use them and the dog gets into a
spot that he can't get out, he'sgoing to get terrified and he's
going to be, you know, he's going to be scared and he's
going to not have time to react with this.
We're going to call the attention, but then we're going
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to give him time to move out. I don't mind that he comes back
again to those 5 minutes and only vibrate some beep.
That's OK with me. I mean, I rather protect the dog
in that case that actually protect the boundary that the
owner decided to use that I thought it was it was adequate
for that area. It's just to give that chance,
the dog, to walk away without having been terrified about the
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situation, which I think is the most important.
Part Someone once compared the vibrate and beep mode on an E
collar to a cell phone in your pocket.
It vibrates and it beeps, and when that's going off, you're
right, it's annoying. You want to turn that off.
You don't want that going off inyour pocket or in your purse.
You don't want other people to be bothered by it.
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So you quickly try to get it outof your pocket or purse and turn
it off. It's the same thing with the
dog. They're like, I don't want this
doing this. I'm trying to just chill out
right here and I don't want that.
So it's going to go to an area where it knows that it's not
going to do it. And like you said, you can, you
could take it off. You can give them a break.
You can not have the battery running and just really give
them those breaks in between. And again, like once they know
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the pattern and they don't need the collar, you don't have to
have to worry about it anymore. But it's a great tool for
keeping dogs out of a certain area of the home.
I heard from your assistant thatyou designed this for a specific
reason, and I'm going to let youtell that story.
But I want to tell you somethingreally funny that I realized
with this thing is that you can keep your dog away from your
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trash can so easily with this thing.
Just put it inside the trash canand then you never have to worry
about a dog digging through the trash.
Not again. So the story pretty much I'm a
dog person. I was raised with my with
Rottweilers, with my, my grandparents just have
Rottweilers and I was raised with them.
I love that breed. It's beautiful.
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It's a strong breed. You need to be able to handle
it, but it's, I think it's a, it's a beautiful breed to
actually have. But my wife is in the opposite
direction. She was raised in Colombia,
Bogota, with no interaction withdogs whatsoever.
We have kids and I love dogs andI think that that's the greatest
thing to have kids and dogs at the same place.
It's just a blessing. But my wife didn't see it that
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way. So during the pandemic hit hard,
everyone emotionally and sickly and and my wife at a given
point, I remember, I'm not goingto forget about it.
We were at dinner and she came out and said, if we had a dog,
how would you call it? Like, honey, this is not going
well. I mean, and I, I tell everyone I
knew at that moment that we needed to find professional
services psychiatrist because the pandemic was hitting on hair
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already. I found myself in situations
where why do I go out, call the psychologist first or I buy the
dock and then call the psychologist.
And I went with the with the wrong answer, which was buy the
dock and call the psychologist later.
We'll find out what how it could.
Turns out the deal was she was never going to love it.
She was never going to take careof her.
She didn't want didn't have anything to do with the dog.
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And I would actually do everything.
It was like, hey, I'm all in. And the kids say I'm all in too.
Unfortunately, I'm the only one taking that bargain.
The kids are no longer doing it.But The funny thing is we got
and it's like, you know, in the middle of the pandemic, what can
you get? There was not a lot of things
you could get. And I was in love with the breed
with which was way Moraner And my uncle who lives across the
street, he had one too at that time.
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And I love the breed. They don't smell.
They're a lot of energy. That's good.
And I wanted to have a big dog. I didn't have a dog before.
Now I need to go go Olene. I mean, if I don't go Olene, I
might regret in the future. We were able to to find Whistler
was a blessing. He came home with eight weeks
and you know, I was a great, butat the same time, it started to
create a huge nightmare at home because my wife, I always say
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this is the son that I had with another woman while being in my
marriage. And he's allowed to be at home,
but he's never going to be loved.
So I'm OK with that and I think he's OK with that as well.
So all the little frictions to start to happen.
Your dog is in my couch. Not a good thing.
Whistler down. And so he would respect and he
didn't tell him dogs. He understands when to do it and
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when not to do it, but he doesn't when I'm at home, when
I'm not at home, he's like, you're not going to talk to me.
There's no risk that we're goingto get into a conflict.
So he will just go into the couch.
He will walk into the bedrooms and everything else.
So we started as we were saying,we started buying everything
that we could find. You know, the electrostatic mat.
We, we bought the biggest one that we could find put on the
floor and it worked for about a day until he realized that if he
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went fast enough, he could actually jump over the over the
mat and not have to walk over it.
And that was great. The only problem is that I would
forget the man in the middle of the hallway and I like to walk
barefoot on my house. So at night I would walk to the
kitchen and I would actually geta shock.
It's like, Oh no. So it end up being that I
eventually removed the mat because I was the only one being
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educated with the mat. The dog didn't care about it.
He would just run over it. And we actually have a video
from Pet Sensor showing Wizzler how he walks over the mat.
I mean, he just speeds up the walk a little bit and he just
jumps over it with no issue. And so, you know, it says it
works, it's a great product, maybe for a smaller dog, but my
dog just can walk over it and there's nothing bigger than
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this, so I can't use it. And then we fall.
Also about the fences, but then the fences have to like the ones
that you have on the staircase for the kids.
It is great, but it's just enough a barrier for yourself.
I mean you're carrying somethingup, you have to put it down,
open the fence that has a spring.
So normally it comes back and you don't have time to pick
things up. So eventually become a little
bit of an issue with all that. Obviously Whistler went through
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a lot of training, him and myself.
Most important thing, I think a lot of dog owners don't realize
the training is 20% dogs, 80% humans.
Once you understand that, he gotinto the basic training and then
one thing that I've always dreamabout is walking with my dog
next to me with no issues. He's like, he's just walking
next to me, no leash, just feeling that.
So we went into an E collar training program and I remember
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that it took a lot of time. He was out of the house for
almost 4 weeks because he wantedto retrain him and whatever.
And the first time I walked withhim next to me, that was
amazing. They train you and they tell you
this is how it works. You're not supposed to shock the
dog, you're supposed to grab hisattention.
So when he's focusing on anotherdog, he's he's just you can see
it. He's staring at the other dog.
He's just focused. He gets sensed.
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That's when you actually send a little signal, which is just
normally kind of like a touch inthe neck, which is actually the
most softer area of the dock. The moms take care of their
puppies by just biting them on that on the neck.
So it doesn't mean that you're you're going to kill him.
Is that you were just grabbing that you're calling his
attention. And then I realized like, Hey,
you, you, you used it the first time and he looks at you and
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that's the only thing that you want from an E color.
It's like he looks at you not, not anything else, not pain or
anything else. He just loses the focus and he
focus on you. And that's how you actually get
it. I start saying, Hey, you know
what, this is fun. I wish I could do something that
doesn't meet my finger on the remote.
So that's where the whole concept start to be designed.
I always say you have to plan for dummies because the last
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thing I want to have is a is a dog to be heard because the
owner does not know how to use it.
And so we start doing everythingfor dummies and say, hey, this
is how you do it. Step one, Step 2.
And it's funny because everything started as a plug and
play. And before even Wizzler actually
got it, I started realizing it was more about the training.
It was more about a communication that you
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established with your dog about something very simple.
No, no, that's not your place. Step up.
And so that eventually started to develop into something else
because now you have a way to communicate with a dog and
saying what not to do. So I don't want you here.
So we start expanding it. So we have one under the the
dining table. Whistler can actually just
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literally walk into the table and just anything, anything in
the table without having to leave in the front docks and the
front legs. So he's just right next to the
table. So now he stays away from the
table, stays away from the trashcan.
You were saying? I don't know how many napkins I
had to rescue from the living room was like, where's Whistler?
He's gone. He's got a napkin.
OK, cool. And he's that means that I have
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to, I mean, not my kids, not my wife.
I am the one that has to stand up from the training table, go
grab the napkin, correct him andjust put it back in place.
The other way that we've trainedit, which is funny because
again, my family in law are not that people and Wizzler is a 75
LB dog. I mean, it's a big dog, it's
athletic, it's big, so it creates a big impression, people
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that don't like dogs. So what we end up playing is
that we actually got a small bungee cord and we put a fob on
the wrist. So what happens is that whoever
walks with that into the house now has a.
Area around them that actually tells them not that tells the
dog not to get close to them. So now that becomes a game
because they can't get close to them.
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They try to they try to smell them from the outside perimeter
without getting close to them. That's another way that we've
actually seen that it works. And again, you start from a
simple communication. No, no, this is not what you're
supposed to do. And that you started to evolve
into different things like people, other dogs.
If you have two dogs and one's alittle bit more bully over the
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other one, you just put the collar on the bullied one and
then you put the FoB on the other one, the one that you want
to protect. So what's going to happen is
it's going to create that same perimeter of protection around
it. And the whole idea of this is
that you're claiming that space.It's not that the other dog is
claiming it is that you are actually selling the dogs.
This is my space. You're not supposed to be here
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anytime. Whether I'm here or not doesn't
matter. The signal is going to be there
and you have to step away from that area.
It really creates a nice environment.
The podcast that you made about finding peace in my house,
Finding Peace is having rules. And we all follow the rules.
So kids, they know that if they do go in the couch, they need to
put the cushions back later. The dog knows that he can be
here. I know that I need to behave
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when the dog's around. We all have different rules so
we can live together. And I think that's the most
important thing about the, the, the collar.
It's just really finding a way to communicate with your dog.
For people that don't know how to communicate.
I've talked to a lot of trainers.
They liked it, but they don't see the use because they
obviously have gone over that step.
They know how can we communicatewith the dogs, but a lot of
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people don't know how to communicate with the dogs and
they don't seem to be interestedin training the dogs the way the
dogs are supposed to be trained.So this is kind of like small
step. This is helping them
understanding what the dog needs, how you can communicate a
simple message with them, and then you can build a different
language that no one else is going to understand but you and
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your dog. So I think that's the most,
that's the most interesting thing about the product.
You know, that it came to be something else completely
unexpected of what I was lookingat the beginning.
But I think it is for me, it's been a, it's been a pleasure.
I've actually working on the project.
Whistler has a lot of training to be done, but I think his
problem is not that he's not able to learn, is that his
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handler is not able to teach himwhat he needs to be learned
because I don't want him to learn those things.
So, you know, we still have thatfeud between that feud between
my wife and myself and, and I love it because it's just, I
always tell that it is literallywhat's holding my merits
together now. Because if I get stressed out, I
would just go to the family room.
I'll turn the TV on, I'll get my75 LB dog and put it right on
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top of me. And if the kids walk into the
room and they see that, or my wife walks into the room and
they see that and we're fighting, they all know that
they have to turn around and leave because it's better me to
me. Leave me with a dog.
Relax and just processing everything and getting the steam
out of the system. And it's just funny because you
would expect anything small, butno, I get my 75 LB dog.
I put it on top of me and that'sheaven for me.
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I mean, it's just a, it's just apleasure.
I love that my dog is my snugglebuddy too.
He's not quite that big, but I have had dogs that were much
larger. I think my largest dog was 120
lbs. She was a cuddle bug too.
I personally love that. I just love it.
But why? Reiners are super smart dogs,
and I have a dog that's mostly border collie.
His name is Fitz. He's also a very smart dog.
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And that is the problem is that they outsmart you when you're
trying to put some of those management things in place.
You can put all of the food off of the counter to not tempt
them, but that doesn't mean thatthey're not going to still try
to jump on the counter or get onthe table or jump over the
electrostatic mat, which is veryclever.
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I will give him credit for that.That's that's that's.
That's a new one for me. What you said there at the end
is so important and I want the listeners to hear that.
Again, this is not for people who are invested in training
their dogs. It is something that can help
you get to a better point. If you are trying to train your
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dog, here's a barrier. We don't want you to go here.
That's great. There are other ways to train
this, but this is definitely more for somebody who doesn't
want to invest the time, doesn'twant to invest the money, or
doesn't know what they're doing because they've never had a dog.
This makes it a little bit easier.
That's what tools are for, guys.Tools are there to assist you
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with your training. It's not about pain, it's not
about dominance, it's not about cornering your dog and putting
them in a bad situation. It's assisting you and having
peace in your home. That is the most important
thing. You want everybody to be
communicating everybody to understand what the rules are
and sometimes you need a little bit of help with that and that
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is OK. Nobody is going to judge you for
using something to assist you. And if you decide to put the
collar, the problems on it and use the E collar portion of it,
that's fine. That's what they're there for.
We're not judging you. We're trying to make this easier
for you. So I really, really, really
appreciate that you said that because one of the really big
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things that I try to put here inthis podcast is we educate, but
we're not here to judge and we're not here to shame.
You have to do what's right for you because every dog is
different. And some dogs are going to be
like, you know what, screw that collar.
It shocks me. And they're going to chew it off
and chew it up because that's how they get rid of the collar,
right? That's how it works.
So you have to be able to adopt those situations and work with
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the dog in front of you. That was really great.
And with that being said, what is something that you would tell
somebody to avoid doing when they're using this collar?
Like what is it not for? OK, so not for, I mean, we've
actually had a lot of comments from people comparing PET sensor
with Halo, the GPS collar. We are not intended for that
purpose. Initially I started thinking if
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I put a small FOP in my fence, if someone leaves the door open,
Whistler's not going to go through.
And yes, it does make sense, butthere's another situation.
If my dog runs over the fence because he knows that that beep
and vibration, it's just going to last a couple seconds.
As soon as they are over the fence, there's no way to come
them back. Actually, it's going to be the
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opposite. And this actually happened to a
friend of mine. He trained the dog at home.
He decided to go to a friend's house.
He put the FOP on the main door and the dog just run over the
dog and stay on the front garden.
And he would tell me his suit isnot working.
Why he doesn't come back to the House, of course, because he
went by, he realized that there was a FoB on the door.
So now he came back to the door because he knows he's not
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supposed to get close to that fault.
So now he's not going to go backinto the house even when you
want him to, because he's away from it.
So what I would say, first of all, this is designed for indoor
space. Can you use it outside?
Yeah, I use it in the terrace, for example.
We have a low table where we putsnacks and everything else.
I normally get the tray with thesnacks and I put a FoB right in
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the middle of the tray. Now I know that Wiesler is not
going to get close to it. That's an outdoor space, yes,
but we are not considering to beoutdoor.
The whole idea is that this is intended for interior space.
You want them to keep them away from certain areas of the house.
The other thing that I highly encourage people is this process
is extremely fast, very fast. If you do it right, it's just
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not going to take more than 5 to10 minutes to train your dog,
but you need to be able to give those 5 to 10 minutes and do it
slowly. You're not supposed to put the
fobs all over the house and makeyour dog find them.
That's a different training thatwe've actually been going out
with some search and rescue dogsthat they they thought the
product was great for them if they train the ducks in a
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completely different way. So in this case, if they get
close to the FOP, it vibrates the bibs.
That's when they get the reward to be right on top of the
vibration of the beep. So that would be positive
reinforcement. What we're doing is negative
reinforcement, which is we don'twant you to do this.
So if you don't do it, you get you get reward.
So take your time. It's not going to take a lot of
time and do it one by one. Don't layout fobs all over the
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house and think that your dog isgoing to understand it.
No, you need to train for every individual fob thinking about as
a game. This is the game where you're
supposed to be 3 feet away from the front door.
Great, you learn it, great reward.
Now this is a game that you're not supposed to go through the
hallway to the bedrooms. Great, then you actually reward
that. And that's how you go little by
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little. And in no time you're going to
see that whatever you can do is actually living less.
I mean, it's up to your imagination.
What you want the dog not to do at the same time, if you wanted
something positive, you can do it as well as a positive
reinforcement. But I would say stay on the
indoor space, Learn how to use the tool.
This is like a hammer. Hammer is a really useful tool
if you know how to use it. But if you start smacking your
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hand with a hammer, it's not going to help you much.
It doesn't work that way. It's easy.
It's you follow through. And the great thing about it is
it's not something that you got to be heavily invested on.
It's not something that the dog has to work every single day,
that you have to do it every single day.
No, it's just a more relaxed training.
It's just the more you train, the faster you're going to get
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result. But at the same time, with this
product, I don't want him to be next to my bed.
OK, here you got the fuck. He's going to learn that
extremely, extremely fast. One of the nightmares that we
have is actually recording videos with dogs because if we
are not able to record them in three takes, we need to fire the
dog and get another one because they already know how it works,
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so they don't want it. They don't want to play anymore.
And so we've gone over 75 dogs, try to record the videos that we
have and you're going to see that all our videos, we have
different dogs every time. And not because we think it's
cool, it's just because we can'tuse the other ones again,
because once you tell them not to get in the couch, they're not
getting in the couch and they look at you, You're dumb.
You just told me not to get in and you want me to repeat it.
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What's wrong with you? And the other thing I would tell
people not to be afraid of the Ecolor, as you were saying, it's,
it's one of the modes that you can use, I guess, and 80% of
people are not going to use it ever.
And the prongs, the prongs you can put them on or off, does not
make any difference. And one of the other things that
I would say that it's interesting about the product is
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the color itself. We have bungee cords.
And the reason for that is that I've trained the colors, they
train me, they train Whistler, we've learned about it.
And it still comes to a point that I don't feel extremely
comfortable when I put that the color, is it too tight?
Is it too loose? The bungee cord?
What actually does it actually give you you that leeway?
If you put it too tight, eventually it's actually going
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to sleep off and just going to go to a tension or a pressure
that is going to be more comfortable for the dog.
So you're not struggling the dogwith that.
But again, if you don't like it,the product is designed that you
can actually pull off the bungeecords and just get a normal
color, one inch color around it and you can just use it the way
the other colors are. But if you have a dog and you're
struggling creating those boundaries inside the house,
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this, as you were saying, is something aesthetical.
It's something simple that you don't need a lot of training to
use it and it helps. It's gonna keep their dog away
from certain areas. So it's just more of a sniper
situation. It's one-on-one.
One FOP makes one different. The kill switch was actually an
idea of mine that initially whenyou had the collar, the vision
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was that you could have many fobs around the house.
So couches, hallways, everythingelse, you could do it and then
it would come to a point that the dog could not access certain
areas. The keel suits was designed for
the owner to wear. So if you were walking with your
dog around the house, he can be next to you because he's allowed
to be next to you. He's actually encouraged to be
next to you. So the keel suits give him
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protection against everything around the house.
So you want to go through the front door with him, he's going
to follow your keel suits is going to actually kill anything
around him and it's going to allow you to walk through it
again. It was initially the intention.
I envisioned that you could have25 fobs in the house and that
would be great and that would beamazing.
And then I realized that you train once, like if you put the
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FoB under the couch, he doesn't know whether the FoB is there
anymore. After you take it out, you can
reuse the FoB. So now it comes to a point that
I think with five fobs you can train your entire homes.
Whether it's a 10,000 square feet home or a 200 square feet
apartment doesn't matter. You can use 5 fobs and reuse
them in different in areas. He's going to learn that.
So you don't really need to haveall those fobs around the house.
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It's one of those things that actually killed the product
itself because it was like, well, I was going to be selling
fobs. No, I don't need to sell fobs.
I mean, you have 4, that's enough.
You want more, I can sell you more, but it's not like you
definitely need them. I mean, it's just, it's just a
simple thing to be used. The kill switch is such a great
one because like you said that in that teaches them if I'm near
you, I can do more. I can go here, I can go there.
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But if I'm by myself, these are the boundaries.
These are the. Rules.
What I'm telling you about the couch, he's not supposed to be
in the couch ever. But if I'm in the couch, he's
allowed to be in the couch. He has to be in the couch.
Doesn't need to be on top of me,but that's only for a special
occasions. But I like to watch TV with him
next to me. That actually gives me a lot of
joy. But it is mostly creating those
limits and understanding becausemy limits could be those.
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I know that a lot of people, I don't mind my dog to be on top
of the couch. It's like great, there's nothing
wrong with that. My.
Dog's on the couch right now. I'm not going to show you the
proof because this is being recorded.
I don't want my wife to see the video.
I can actually deny that he was on the couch and this was just a
marketing experience. But right now he's on the couch
and he's looking at me and he's like, it's company.
Yeah, it's great. But you know, that's why I'm
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saying, you know, you can't. You can't think your dog's going
to be perfect because the owner's not perfect at all.
I mean that's he's not going to be never best than his owner
handler in this case. He's a he.
He says clown as a me. I mean, it doesn't make any
difference. So and we'll be always pushing
that a little bit more towards my wife and and I know that she
loves him. I always say that she's not a
dark person, but she's the firstone saying, hey, this did was
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very today because I don't see any food on the bowl.
That bowl is too dirty. Do you wash him?
So she cares about him, but again, it's a kid from another
woman. She's never going to love him,
but she's going to accept it. She's definitely accepted and
I've caught her a couple times talking to the dog when she
thought I was not at home. And it's hilarious because I
would say she's handicapped on communication with the dog.
She would try to reach the dog like that just to touch it with
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the tips of the fingers because he's done something good.
Eventually all dogs win their winded the affection of people
around them. I think that's what's what's
great about dogs. They pretty much mimic anything
there's around them. If you're in a happy
environment, he's going to be a happy dog.
And if he sees that you're in a depressed moment, even if it's
not at one of those dogs that wants to be close to you,
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they'll get close to you and they'll try to push you forward
because that's what they do. They get around their family and
and move with the family. They support each other.
They do. They're such wonderful
companions, They truly are. For somebody who's listening,
who's maybe now on the fence, what would you want them to know
before making the decision? Or what would you say to them to
help them be less hesitant? So the first thing is, you're
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not going to hurt your dog if you use it correctly.
You can actually just handicap the color and not use the color
at all. Remove the fobs, remove the
mode, and you can use it just like a beeping and regular and
vibration. Second of all, you're gonna find
out that you have a way to communicate your doc that you'd
never thought you could actuallyhave.
And it's just simple. When you go to a broad country
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and you're able to say yes or noor we or no, it's just a yes or
no can help you a lot. And this is the same thing
you're saying, hey, no, no, no, don't do that.
You don't do it. You're happy, I'm happy.
And so I think that's going to help a lot because most of the
time, I think as dog owners, thelast thing we want is to hurt
our dogs. Our saying is that we try to
spoil the dogs more than we would even spoil our kids.
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And I think that's one of the big things.
So definitely you're not going to hurt your dog.
And secondly, you're actually going to help it.
And the same thing with it with the kids.
When you have a well educated kids that you know, someone
comes to the house and they comeand greet and say hello, how are
you doing? And they keep clean and you
know, and they correctly, everyone fell in love with them,
even if they don't like kids, say, hey, what a wonderful kid.
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Well, how educated kid you have.Well, the same thing happened
with the dog. When you have a well educated
dog, when you have a dog that actually knows the boundaries,
that is not going to be pushing them, the effect that you're
going to have on people is goingto be exactly the same.
They're going to fell in love with your dog where you're going
to say, Oh my God, he doesn't gointo your garbage.
Mine does. No, mine doesn't go into the
garbage. He's trained not to go into the
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garbage. I always make fun like, how many
times have you walked into a friend's house and first thing
you ring the bell and you fear the monster behind the door just
barking and scratching and and then you hear your friend.
Just give me a second. I'm I'm putting sugar right in
the cage. It's like that doesn't seem to
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be sugar. And you find a small Chihuahua.
It's like, I thought it was like, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what I was expecting.
Well, you clean the door now. And once you get the pizza
delivery guy, you can open the door.
The dog's going to be right behind you staring at the guy
steering at the pizza, but he's going to stay 3 feet away from
the door because that's your space.
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You claim the door. So now you have the easy life of
knowing that you can open your door without having to push your
dog away from the door and having to be worried whether
he's going to jump over. No, just start creating space.
And if you have a partner, you're married, you have kids,
and you live in a house, no matter how big your house is,
you always need your space. You always, always need to make
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sure you define what's your space, what's my space, what's
the space of the dog and want everyone understands that.
I think there's a lot more peacein the house because you now
have your space and no one's around it and you can breathe.
The dog has his space. He knows where he can go and
cannot go. Your wife has your space.
Like, hey, I don't want the dog in the closet.
Great. He's not supposed to be the
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closet and I don't think he's going to be effective for not
walking the closet. So I would say don't be afraid.
I think he's good. You're not going to hurt your
dog and you're going to your relation with the dog because
you're going to find a new way to communicate with the dog.
And the great thing about it, ifit doesn't work, it's not a huge
investment. I would encourage people, if you
have any problem with the training, shoot me an e-mail.
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I'm into this product because I see what it's done to me.
And I've seen friends of mine using wrongly and they call me
or I see that they're doing it wrong and they tell them, dude,
you're not supposed to use it like that.
No, no. And I give them the guidance and
they see the change. It's like, oh, now I see it's
like, OK, buddy. I mean, the instructions say it
clearly. I told you clearly.
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Obviously the doc does not need training.
You need a lot more training. Most of the time.
If there's a trouble, shoot us an e-mail.
We'll be more than happy to respond and let you know what
you might be doing right, what you might be doing wrong, and we
might even learn what you're doing that we never thought
about that. Because again, it's a
communication. You can use it any way you want.
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And there's going to people thatmight be able to evolve into a,
into a level that I cannot even envision.
And there's going to be people that are going to get stuck to
the no, no, not my couch. He can get in the trash.
He can get in the table, but notmy couch.
That's a 19th century couch. And OK, great, I'm not judging
everyone has to enjoy their homethe way they wanted to do it.
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This product is just a way on trying to help you do that,
achieve that. And you know, there's going to
be always people saying, Oh, I remember there was 11 message
that we got. You're a bad person and you
should use the color in yourself.
And and you know, and I wanted to respond.
I really, truly wanted to respond to that comment.
But Mike and my marketing guy tell me, no, you don't come from
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that. You don't say anything.
Just don't worry about it. And it's like, but it's true.
I use it on myself for a year. I mean, I shocked myself for a
year before I even put it on my dog.
And I know what that color can do.
I think it's a, it's a valid response.
It's like, no, no, Jesus, you'recrazy enough, but don't tell
that because that's not what they're looking.
They're looking to create negativity and everything else.
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Like, yeah, but I've done it. What's wrong with it?
I mean. I mean, I can tell you, and this
is something that I I know this is a joke.
A lot of women have to ask me ifthat it is worth for their
husbands to beware. And I would tell you, no, it
doesn't work on husband and thenhusbands.
I've tried. I use it on myself and still the
same guy that I used it before that it doesn't correct
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anything. The dog helps a little bit more
just because they're a little bit more smarter.
But husbands is not a is not a niche that you can use it on.
It doesn't work correctly. Good advice I think so don't use
it on your partners people. Doesn't help.
It doesn't work. We test it.
We test it and it doesn't work. I mean, Oh my.
Goodness. Well, Jesus, can you tell
everybody how to get ahold of you and where they can find PET
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sensor? So they can actually get into
three WS dot pethyphensensor.com.
They can find us also in Amazon and anything that they might
need, just get into the website and you would find a lot of
videos. I mean, there's a lot of funny
videos that we have there just because they're real.
The interaction with dogs is always a funny thing to be done.
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And so we have a lot of videos, a lot of training, a lot of
tutorials that you can go into it and understand the product a
little bit more deeper. And what I would suggest, look
at the dogs. None of the dogs that we
actually film with are terrified, are scared.
They're happy dogs. They're enjoying the situation,
they're learning and the owners is the same thing.
You need to not be scared about the product.
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You're never going to hurt your dog unless you actually get the
bungee cords and start heating the dog with the bungee cord,
which doesn't make any sense. It's just disclaimer, don't hit
your dog with the collar. It doesn't work either.
It's easy, it's simple. You're not going to hurt him and
you are going to get an enhancement of the communication
with your dog. I think that's the key point
here. It's just feeling that
enhancements, feeling that you have a connection stronger with
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your dog. I think it's just the best part
of the product. Check out Pen Sensory and we'll
ask Jesus our final question, which is what would you like to
leave our listeners with today? Having a dog, it's a blessing is
something it's really important and creating that family union
between the dog and your family and enjoying the life of a dog,
it's great. Treat them with respect and
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you're going to get love withoutlimit.
I mean, it's just, it's just a great thing that you can
advocate with dogs, how you findyour way with their dog, whether
you can use pet sensor or not, or whether you can use anything
else. I would say try to improve the
relation with your dogs. It's just, I think it's the best
thing you can do. It is it pays 10 times of what
you invest in it. And I think that's the most
important thing about it. We're here because of the dogs
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and I think that's the most important part of it.
I've heard him be kind, spread joy, and love your dog
limitlessly. Thanks for listening to Straight
Up Dog Talk and for taking the time to learn how to support
your dog. If meal time feels stressful or
confusing, I've created a free mini bowl blueprint with three
simple swaps you can make right now to bring more calm and
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What if you could claim spaces in your home without gates,
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of through a partnership based approach that combines training,
nutrition, and enrichment instead of chasing the quick
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you'll learn how gentle indoor boundary tech teaches move away
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indoor management and simple home setups that make life
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easier without shame. Because peace at home isn't
stricter rules, it's clear communication.
Today I'm talking with Jesus from Pet Sensor, a behavior
focused tech product designed primarily for indoor use.
Let's jump in and talk about howPet Sensor works, who it's
really for, and why it might be the right solution.
Pet Sensor. It's a training method using an
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E collar designed to create boundaries inside the house
without having a physical boundary for the humans.
A really easy way to say is you don't want your dog to be on top
of the couch or you don't want the dog to be going to the
bedrooms. Everything that I was finding
when I was starting this processwas mostly physical fences that
you would actually have to put on the doors or I remember there
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was an electrostatic mat that you would actually put on the
and technically the dog would not go over it.
You find a lot of big things, a lot of things that actually
create real barriers in the house, not only for the dogs,
but also for the person. And so through the different
challenges that we'll go into them later on, I came out to
say, you know what, I don't think I'm finding it.
I think I'm going to have to go the other route.
(01:46):
Let me try, if I can make something, I like to twink good
things a lot. Let me see if I can find
something that I can do that it would help in my house.
And that's how Pet Sensor came out to be.
It's a it's a funny story and westart from the beginning.
The reason for why we have a dog, why we have to find
something to, to create those boundaries.
And I think that's that's part of the whole project.
I think that a lot of people getdogs and they don't realize it's
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kind of like baby proofing the house when they have a toddler
that starts crawling or walking and climbing up on things.
Because dogs are curious, they get into things, they want to
smell things and explore things.And people who've never had
dogs, I don't think realize that.
And so sometimes they're not often prepared and a lot of the
options that are out there are very clunky and take up space
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and are heavy or you can't manage them by yourselves, or
you have to drill holes in your wall, all kinds of things like
that. And you don't have to do that
with PET sensor, which is, is really cool.
You guys actually sent me one and we did try it out.
And one of the things that I really like about it when it is,
you know, here's it is guys, it's just an E collar.
But the thing that I like about it is that you guys have 3
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modes. So it vibrates, it beeps and
then it also it does shock you guys.
But as you can see, I don't havethe little things on here.
So mine does not shock. I just use the beep or vibrate.
We have a kitten downstairs in our basement.
Now my roommate got a kitten andso we do have to have the gate
up because we don't want the catinteracting with the dog.
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But I also don't want the dog going downstairs to sniff the
cat or bother the cat. So we have one of the, I took it
off the fence so I could bring it up here, but we have the tag
that just just hangs up on the on the fence so that when he
gets to it, he just knows I'm not supposed to be here.
It beeps at him and he just backs away from it.
It's really great because literally guys, this is it, this
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is it. See this tiny little thing.
It's just a little bit bigger than I would say, maybe two
quarters. It's not very big and it's very
light. So it's nice that I don't have
to worry about having the clunkythings if I don't want to.
Do you want to talk a little bitabout the sensors and how they
were? Sure, sure.
So there's actually 3 sensors. You have the short, you have the
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long, and then you have the killswitch.
So funny thing is, you know, youStart learning through the
process and this was a whole learning experience from the
beginning. When we started, we were
thinking about a product that you can leave on your dog when
you're not at home so you could claim those areas and he
wouldn't get around. And then we end up finding out
that, you know, it comes to a point that it became more of a
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training than than a tool or a plug and play.
And it's extremely easy. The reason why we have three
different fobs is you have the short one.
So the short one is actually designed for small spaces.
I live in a big house, but we used to live in an apartment.
And so I would always think about if I put a range that is
way too big, the dog won't be able to move up around the
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apartment because you don't wanthim in the couch.
And that's pretty much covering your space behind the couch,
which is the hallway. And, and so I started tinkering
a little bit and say, you know what, what I need is two
different things. I need to be able to cover a
hallway. So if I don't want him to go
through a hallway or if I don't want him to go next to the door
when someone's ringing the bell,then I know I have 3 feet of
distance from the fault. And then I need a small one
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which I can actually put right inside my couch.
You just drop it under the cushion he can pass in front of
the couch with if not problem. As soon as he jumped into the
couch, he's going to start vibrating and beeping, giving
him the signal that he's not welcome there that he should
move forward to another thing. Now the important thing, and
this is how the product actuallyreally gets an impact on how he
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makes easy. The doc is not reacting to
something negative. He's reacting to A, to A, to
actually to a treat to a pet, because the whole idea is when
you start training with the collar, as soon as the beep and
the vibration happens, you are to call your dog, get him close
to you and then pet him, even a tree.
So he's going to start to actually relate those two
things. When he beeps and vibrates.
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If I step away, I'm rewarded andthat's the whole idea of it.
As you were saying, we have the collar, the collar mode.
I normally would tell people that I would not use it in 80%
of the cases with the dogs. The reason for that is they
learn really quick, so as soon as they hear the beep and the
vibration, they step away and they get close to you because
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you're already rewarding that action reaction system.
Now the shock is a little bit more for the extremely stubborn
dogs, the ones that they are a little bit more, the relation
between the alpha and the follower is not well defined in
the house. And so they're going to be
stubborn. They're going to say, no, I'm
staying here, I'm doing this. And that's where you need to
actually use the color a little bit just to give them the
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attentions. Just hey, your focus, listen,
something else. I want you to focus on me.
Come back to me. I'll treat you, I'll pet you.
I'll do whatever actually pleaseyou.
Normally you might use that onceor twice and that's as much as
you're ever going to use it. My E collar now has three years
is the same as yours. Mine does not have the prongs
on. I would tell you that mine does
not even have battery on most ofthe time.
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Because The thing is once you train them, they get used to
know when the collar's on. They're in game mode, they're in
training mode. And so it is funny because
Whistler, right now, he's on topof it in the couch.
My wife is not at home and hopefully she doesn't see this
video. But the whole idea is that I
don't mind him being in certain places.
And, and so I allow him to be there.
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But when he breaks that barrier or where he could be or where he
could not be, I normally tell him, hey, we're training, man,
sorry to bother you, but we're training.
I pull out the collar, He sits. He looks at me like, again,
really? And we go over the train.
So the training might just startto go every two or three months.
And The funny thing is he might not be wearing the, the collar
over those 2-3 months. He knows where he's not supposed
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to be. He knows where he's supposed to
be. And so every now and then he
just refreshed that training andit's really fun because you
could see that he understand that Weezer is actually trained
in 2E collars. So he's got the indoor E collar.
That's the one that I trained him with.
And then he, we have the Garmin adventure, which is what we used
to actually walk off leash in the streets.
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I've always had this feel how E collars, they're demonic,
they're bad. They're, I mean, you have to see
the face of this dog every time I pull the Garmin out because
he's no, he's going to the street, he's jumping all over
the place. He's happy.
He comes, he gets me to put his collar around and he jumps into
the street because he knows thatthat's good.
That's a way that he can go outside, he can play with me and
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it's not hurting. It's just months of the time.
I got to be honest, it's also batteries as well.
I mean, it's just it's one of those things that you don't need
to be active with it. You just need to train the dog
to know how to do something and to to understand the game.
And that's how I put it. Once he understands the game,
it's fun for everyone. I am the biggest and proudest
guy that you can find. When I'm walking my dog outside
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because he's off leash, I got my, I carry my leash around me
and he's running, he's jumping. And as soon as I see something
coming, hey, I see that you werea little too far, a little too.
Hey, come back with me, stay with me, walk with me.
And you know, he makes sense. I mean, he, he, he's, he's with
his owner, I'm with him. We walk together and every now
and then, hey, break, do whatever you want.
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He jumps, he enjoys, he comes back and it's just really nice.
It's really intuitive once you understand how to how to use it.
It's so funny that you mentionedthat about the battery being
dead because I told you before we started the recording that my
battery was dead and it's literally because we haven't had
to use it. It's so long.
He knows now the gate is just a no go zone and he doesn't go
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there anymore. Sometimes if we have company
over or something, I might put it back on.
I'm just reminded because he gets excited and he runs up and
down the stairs and he does things that he normally wouldn't
do. But if it's just us hanging out
here at home, he doesn't go downthere.
And it's, it's totally great because he doesn't even have to
have the caller on to know that's just, I don't go there
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anymore. It took a few times and now he
doesn't even try it. So I love that, you know, that,
you know, it is a pattern. It becomes the part of the
behavior. And once it's part of that
routine, then they just, they don't even need it anymore.
So it's great. I'm not going to set mine off,
but just because then he'll, he'll have a little bit of
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reaction if I do that because heknows and he'll be like, what
was I doing wrong? You know, or where's my treat?
And I don't have that either. So, but it's, it's not, I mean,
it's not loud. It's not a bad sound.
You have two modes. You can use it with E collar or
without the E collar. Without the E collar, we call
them cycles. The whole idea is there's going
to be a repeating cycle soon as you're close to the beacon, it's
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just going to start sounding andvibrating and you would do it
permanently as long as it's close to the FOP.
So the whole idea there is it's just annoying.
I mean, if you're a dog and you're stubborn and you get into
the top of the couch, what happens is it's going to beep on
vibrate, which honestly is not painful at all.
It's just annoying. And so eventually you would say,
you know what, I wanted to be here just to be peacefully and
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enjoy the rest. This is not the place.
I'm just going somewhere else. And so that is really helpful if
and this is where the if comes out, if you decided to use with
E color for whatever reason, obviously you need to trim that
level to your dog and whatever that level might be and not
depending on the height. All dogs are different.
The system is actually designed to protect the dog.
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So what's going to happen is you're going to have a first
cycle of vibration and beeping, then you have a going to have a
second cycle of vibration and beeping.
If he doesn't do anything on those two cycles, the next cycle
is going to include an Electro stimulus.
So it's going to be vibration, beeping and Electro stimulus.
That's going to happen two more times after that.
The E collar mode, he's going tobe completely disconnected for 5
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minutes. The whole idea for that is if
and this is where they they always come.
If the human is too dumb to put a lot of sensors around the home
without showing the dog how to use them and the dog gets into a
spot that he can't get out, he'sgoing to get terrified and he's
going to be, you know, he's going to be scared and he's
going to not have time to react with this.
We're going to call the attention, but then we're going
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to give him time to move out. I don't mind that he comes back
again to those 5 minutes and only vibrate some beep.
That's OK with me. I mean, I rather protect the dog
in that case that actually protect the boundary that the
owner decided to use that I thought it was it was adequate
for that area. It's just to give that chance,
the dog, to walk away without having been terrified about the
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situation, which I think is the most important.
Part Someone once compared the vibrate and beep mode on an E
collar to a cell phone in your pocket.
It vibrates and it beeps, and when that's going off, you're
right, it's annoying. You want to turn that off.
You don't want that going off inyour pocket or in your purse.
You don't want other people to be bothered by it.
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So you quickly try to get it outof your pocket or purse and turn
it off. It's the same thing with the
dog. They're like, I don't want this
doing this. I'm trying to just chill out
right here and I don't want that.
So it's going to go to an area where it knows that it's not
going to do it. And like you said, you can, you
could take it off. You can give them a break.
You can not have the battery running and just really give
them those breaks in between. And again, like once they know
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the pattern and they don't need the collar, you don't have to
have to worry about it anymore. But it's a great tool for
keeping dogs out of a certain area of the home.
I heard from your assistant thatyou designed this for a specific
reason, and I'm going to let youtell that story.
But I want to tell you somethingreally funny that I realized
with this thing is that you can keep your dog away from your
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trash can so easily with this thing.
Just put it inside the trash canand then you never have to worry
about a dog digging through the trash.
Not again. So the story pretty much I'm a
dog person. I was raised with my with
Rottweilers, with my, my grandparents just have
Rottweilers and I was raised with them.
I love that breed. It's beautiful.
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It's a strong breed. You need to be able to handle
it, but it's, I think it's a, it's a beautiful breed to
actually have. But my wife is in the opposite
direction. She was raised in Colombia,
Bogota, with no interaction withdogs whatsoever.
We have kids and I love dogs andI think that that's the greatest
thing to have kids and dogs at the same place.
It's just a blessing. But my wife didn't see it that
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way. So during the pandemic hit hard,
everyone emotionally and sickly and and my wife at a given
point, I remember, I'm not goingto forget about it.
We were at dinner and she came out and said, if we had a dog,
how would you call it? Like, honey, this is not going
well. I mean, and I, I tell everyone I
knew at that moment that we needed to find professional
services psychiatrist because the pandemic was hitting on hair
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already. I found myself in situations
where why do I go out, call the psychologist first or I buy the
dock and then call the psychologist.
And I went with the with the wrong answer, which was buy the
dock and call the psychologist later.
We'll find out what how it could.
Turns out the deal was she was never going to love it.
She was never going to take careof her.
She didn't want didn't have anything to do with the dog.
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And I would actually do everything.
It was like, hey, I'm all in. And the kids say I'm all in too.
Unfortunately, I'm the only one taking that bargain.
The kids are no longer doing it.But The funny thing is we got
and it's like, you know, in the middle of the pandemic, what can
you get? There was not a lot of things
you could get. And I was in love with the breed
with which was way Moraner And my uncle who lives across the
street, he had one too at that time.
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And I love the breed. They don't smell.
They're a lot of energy. That's good.
And I wanted to have a big dog. I didn't have a dog before.
Now I need to go go Olene. I mean, if I don't go Olene, I
might regret in the future. We were able to to find Whistler
was a blessing. He came home with eight weeks
and you know, I was a great, butat the same time, it started to
create a huge nightmare at home because my wife, I always say
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this is the son that I had with another woman while being in my
marriage. And he's allowed to be at home,
but he's never going to be loved.
So I'm OK with that and I think he's OK with that as well.
So all the little frictions to start to happen.
Your dog is in my couch. Not a good thing.
Whistler down. And so he would respect and he
didn't tell him dogs. He understands when to do it and
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when not to do it, but he doesn't when I'm at home, when
I'm not at home, he's like, you're not going to talk to me.
There's no risk that we're goingto get into a conflict.
So he will just go into the couch.
He will walk into the bedrooms and everything else.
So we started as we were saying,we started buying everything
that we could find. You know, the electrostatic mat.
We, we bought the biggest one that we could find put on the
floor and it worked for about a day until he realized that if he
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went fast enough, he could actually jump over the over the
mat and not have to walk over it.
And that was great. The only problem is that I would
forget the man in the middle of the hallway and I like to walk
barefoot on my house. So at night I would walk to the
kitchen and I would actually geta shock.
It's like, Oh no. So it end up being that I
eventually removed the mat because I was the only one being
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educated with the mat. The dog didn't care about it.
He would just run over it. And we actually have a video
from Pet Sensor showing Wizzler how he walks over the mat.
I mean, he just speeds up the walk a little bit and he just
jumps over it with no issue. And so, you know, it says it
works, it's a great product, maybe for a smaller dog, but my
dog just can walk over it and there's nothing bigger than
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this, so I can't use it. And then we fall.
Also about the fences, but then the fences have to like the ones
that you have on the staircase for the kids.
It is great, but it's just enough a barrier for yourself.
I mean you're carrying somethingup, you have to put it down,
open the fence that has a spring.
So normally it comes back and you don't have time to pick
things up. So eventually become a little
bit of an issue with all that. Obviously Whistler went through
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a lot of training, him and myself.
Most important thing, I think a lot of dog owners don't realize
the training is 20% dogs, 80% humans.
Once you understand that, he gotinto the basic training and then
one thing that I've always dreamabout is walking with my dog
next to me with no issues. He's like, he's just walking
next to me, no leash, just feeling that.
So we went into an E collar training program and I remember
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that it took a lot of time. He was out of the house for
almost 4 weeks because he wantedto retrain him and whatever.
And the first time I walked withhim next to me, that was
amazing. They train you and they tell you
this is how it works. You're not supposed to shock the
dog, you're supposed to grab hisattention.
So when he's focusing on anotherdog, he's he's just you can see
it. He's staring at the other dog.
He's just focused. He gets sensed.
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That's when you actually send a little signal, which is just
normally kind of like a touch inthe neck, which is actually the
most softer area of the dock. The moms take care of their
puppies by just biting them on that on the neck.
So it doesn't mean that you're you're going to kill him.
Is that you were just grabbing that you're calling his
attention. And then I realized like, Hey,
you, you, you used it the first time and he looks at you and
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that's the only thing that you want from an E color.
It's like he looks at you not, not anything else, not pain or
anything else. He just loses the focus and he
focus on you. And that's how you actually get
it. I start saying, Hey, you know
what, this is fun. I wish I could do something that
doesn't meet my finger on the remote.
So that's where the whole concept start to be designed.
I always say you have to plan for dummies because the last
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thing I want to have is a is a dog to be heard because the
owner does not know how to use it.
And so we start doing everythingfor dummies and say, hey, this
is how you do it. Step one, Step 2.
And it's funny because everything started as a plug and
play. And before even Wizzler actually
got it, I started realizing it was more about the training.
It was more about a communication that you
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established with your dog about something very simple.
No, no, that's not your place. Step up.
And so that eventually started to develop into something else
because now you have a way to communicate with a dog and
saying what not to do. So I don't want you here.
So we start expanding it. So we have one under the the
dining table. Whistler can actually just
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literally walk into the table and just anything, anything in
the table without having to leave in the front docks and the
front legs. So he's just right next to the
table. So now he stays away from the
table, stays away from the trashcan.
You were saying? I don't know how many napkins I
had to rescue from the living room was like, where's Whistler?
He's gone. He's got a napkin.
OK, cool. And he's that means that I have
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to, I mean, not my kids, not my wife.
I am the one that has to stand up from the training table, go
grab the napkin, correct him andjust put it back in place.
The other way that we've trainedit, which is funny because
again, my family in law are not that people and Wizzler is a 75
LB dog. I mean, it's a big dog, it's
athletic, it's big, so it creates a big impression, people
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that don't like dogs. So what we end up playing is
that we actually got a small bungee cord and we put a fob on
the wrist. So what happens is that whoever
walks with that into the house now has a.
Area around them that actually tells them not that tells the
dog not to get close to them. So now that becomes a game
because they can't get close to them.
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They try to they try to smell them from the outside perimeter
without getting close to them. That's another way that we've
actually seen that it works. And again, you start from a
simple communication. No, no, this is not what you're
supposed to do. And that you started to evolve
into different things like people, other dogs.
If you have two dogs and one's alittle bit more bully over the
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other one, you just put the collar on the bullied one and
then you put the FoB on the other one, the one that you want
to protect. So what's going to happen is
it's going to create that same perimeter of protection around
it. And the whole idea of this is
that you're claiming that space.It's not that the other dog is
claiming it is that you are actually selling the dogs.
This is my space. You're not supposed to be here
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anytime. Whether I'm here or not doesn't
matter. The signal is going to be there
and you have to step away from that area.
It really creates a nice environment.
The podcast that you made about finding peace in my house,
Finding Peace is having rules. And we all follow the rules.
So kids, they know that if they do go in the couch, they need to
put the cushions back later. The dog knows that he can be
here. I know that I need to behave
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when the dog's around. We all have different rules so
we can live together. And I think that's the most
important thing about the, the, the collar.
It's just really finding a way to communicate with your dog.
For people that don't know how to communicate.
I've talked to a lot of trainers.
They liked it, but they don't see the use because they
obviously have gone over that step.
They know how can we communicatewith the dogs, but a lot of
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people don't know how to communicate with the dogs and
they don't seem to be interestedin training the dogs the way the
dogs are supposed to be trained.So this is kind of like small
step. This is helping them
understanding what the dog needs, how you can communicate a
simple message with them, and then you can build a different
language that no one else is going to understand but you and
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your dog. So I think that's the most,
that's the most interesting thing about the product.
You know, that it came to be something else completely
unexpected of what I was lookingat the beginning.
But I think it is for me, it's been a, it's been a pleasure.
I've actually working on the project.
Whistler has a lot of training to be done, but I think his
problem is not that he's not able to learn, is that his
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handler is not able to teach himwhat he needs to be learned
because I don't want him to learn those things.
So, you know, we still have thatfeud between that feud between
my wife and myself and, and I love it because it's just, I
always tell that it is literallywhat's holding my merits
together now. Because if I get stressed out, I
would just go to the family room.
I'll turn the TV on, I'll get my75 LB dog and put it right on
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top of me. And if the kids walk into the
room and they see that, or my wife walks into the room and
they see that and we're fighting, they all know that
they have to turn around and leave because it's better me to
me. Leave me with a dog.
Relax and just processing everything and getting the steam
out of the system. And it's just funny because you
would expect anything small, butno, I get my 75 LB dog.
I put it on top of me and that'sheaven for me.
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I mean, it's just a, it's just apleasure.
I love that my dog is my snugglebuddy too.
He's not quite that big, but I have had dogs that were much
larger. I think my largest dog was 120
lbs. She was a cuddle bug too.
I personally love that. I just love it.
But why? Reiners are super smart dogs,
and I have a dog that's mostly border collie.
His name is Fitz. He's also a very smart dog.
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And that is the problem is that they outsmart you when you're
trying to put some of those management things in place.
You can put all of the food off of the counter to not tempt
them, but that doesn't mean thatthey're not going to still try
to jump on the counter or get onthe table or jump over the
electrostatic mat, which is veryclever.
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I will give him credit for that.That's that's that's.
That's a new one for me. What you said there at the end
is so important and I want the listeners to hear that.
Again, this is not for people who are invested in training
their dogs. It is something that can help
you get to a better point. If you are trying to train your
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dog, here's a barrier. We don't want you to go here.
That's great. There are other ways to train
this, but this is definitely more for somebody who doesn't
want to invest the time, doesn'twant to invest the money, or
doesn't know what they're doing because they've never had a dog.
This makes it a little bit easier.
That's what tools are for, guys.Tools are there to assist you
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with your training. It's not about pain, it's not
about dominance, it's not about cornering your dog and putting
them in a bad situation. It's assisting you and having
peace in your home. That is the most important
thing. You want everybody to be
communicating everybody to understand what the rules are
and sometimes you need a little bit of help with that and that
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is OK. Nobody is going to judge you for
using something to assist you. And if you decide to put the
collar, the problems on it and use the E collar portion of it,
that's fine. That's what they're there for.
We're not judging you. We're trying to make this easier
for you. So I really, really, really
appreciate that you said that because one of the really big
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things that I try to put here inthis podcast is we educate, but
we're not here to judge and we're not here to shame.
You have to do what's right for you because every dog is
different. And some dogs are going to be
like, you know what, screw that collar.
It shocks me. And they're going to chew it off
and chew it up because that's how they get rid of the collar,
right? That's how it works.
So you have to be able to adopt those situations and work with
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the dog in front of you. That was really great.
And with that being said, what is something that you would tell
somebody to avoid doing when they're using this collar?
Like what is it not for? OK, so not for, I mean, we've
actually had a lot of comments from people comparing PET sensor
with Halo, the GPS collar. We are not intended for that
purpose. Initially I started thinking if
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I put a small FOP in my fence, if someone leaves the door open,
Whistler's not going to go through.
And yes, it does make sense, butthere's another situation.
If my dog runs over the fence because he knows that that beep
and vibration, it's just going to last a couple seconds.
As soon as they are over the fence, there's no way to come
them back. Actually, it's going to be the
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opposite. And this actually happened to a
friend of mine. He trained the dog at home.
He decided to go to a friend's house.
He put the FOP on the main door and the dog just run over the
dog and stay on the front garden.
And he would tell me his suit isnot working.
Why he doesn't come back to the House, of course, because he
went by, he realized that there was a FoB on the door.
So now he came back to the door because he knows he's not
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supposed to get close to that fault.
So now he's not going to go backinto the house even when you
want him to, because he's away from it.
So what I would say, first of all, this is designed for indoor
space. Can you use it outside?
Yeah, I use it in the terrace, for example.
We have a low table where we putsnacks and everything else.
I normally get the tray with thesnacks and I put a FoB right in
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the middle of the tray. Now I know that Wiesler is not
going to get close to it. That's an outdoor space, yes,
but we are not considering to beoutdoor.
The whole idea is that this is intended for interior space.
You want them to keep them away from certain areas of the house.
The other thing that I highly encourage people is this process
is extremely fast, very fast. If you do it right, it's just
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not going to take more than 5 to10 minutes to train your dog,
but you need to be able to give those 5 to 10 minutes and do it
slowly. You're not supposed to put the
fobs all over the house and makeyour dog find them.
That's a different training thatwe've actually been going out
with some search and rescue dogsthat they they thought the
product was great for them if they train the ducks in a
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completely different way. So in this case, if they get
close to the FOP, it vibrates the bibs.
That's when they get the reward to be right on top of the
vibration of the beep. So that would be positive
reinforcement. What we're doing is negative
reinforcement, which is we don'twant you to do this.
So if you don't do it, you get you get reward.
So take your time. It's not going to take a lot of
time and do it one by one. Don't layout fobs all over the
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house and think that your dog isgoing to understand it.
No, you need to train for every individual fob thinking about as
a game. This is the game where you're
supposed to be 3 feet away from the front door.
Great, you learn it, great reward.
Now this is a game that you're not supposed to go through the
hallway to the bedrooms. Great, then you actually reward
that. And that's how you go little by
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little. And in no time you're going to
see that whatever you can do is actually living less.
I mean, it's up to your imagination.
What you want the dog not to do at the same time, if you wanted
something positive, you can do it as well as a positive
reinforcement. But I would say stay on the
indoor space, Learn how to use the tool.
This is like a hammer. Hammer is a really useful tool
if you know how to use it. But if you start smacking your
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hand with a hammer, it's not going to help you much.
It doesn't work that way. It's easy.
It's you follow through. And the great thing about it is
it's not something that you got to be heavily invested on.
It's not something that the dog has to work every single day,
that you have to do it every single day.
No, it's just a more relaxed training.
It's just the more you train, the faster you're going to get
(29:24):
result. But at the same time, with this
product, I don't want him to be next to my bed.
OK, here you got the fuck. He's going to learn that
extremely, extremely fast. One of the nightmares that we
have is actually recording videos with dogs because if we
are not able to record them in three takes, we need to fire the
dog and get another one because they already know how it works,
(29:45):
so they don't want it. They don't want to play anymore.
And so we've gone over 75 dogs, try to record the videos that we
have and you're going to see that all our videos, we have
different dogs every time. And not because we think it's
cool, it's just because we can'tuse the other ones again,
because once you tell them not to get in the couch, they're not
getting in the couch and they look at you, You're dumb.
You just told me not to get in and you want me to repeat it.
(30:06):
What's wrong with you? And the other thing I would tell
people not to be afraid of the Ecolor, as you were saying, it's,
it's one of the modes that you can use, I guess, and 80% of
people are not going to use it ever.
And the prongs, the prongs you can put them on or off, does not
make any difference. And one of the other things that
I would say that it's interesting about the product is
(30:28):
the color itself. We have bungee cords.
And the reason for that is that I've trained the colors, they
train me, they train Whistler, we've learned about it.
And it still comes to a point that I don't feel extremely
comfortable when I put that the color, is it too tight?
Is it too loose? The bungee cord?
What actually does it actually give you you that leeway?
If you put it too tight, eventually it's actually going
(30:48):
to sleep off and just going to go to a tension or a pressure
that is going to be more comfortable for the dog.
So you're not struggling the dogwith that.
But again, if you don't like it,the product is designed that you
can actually pull off the bungeecords and just get a normal
color, one inch color around it and you can just use it the way
the other colors are. But if you have a dog and you're
struggling creating those boundaries inside the house,
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this, as you were saying, is something aesthetical.
It's something simple that you don't need a lot of training to
use it and it helps. It's gonna keep their dog away
from certain areas. So it's just more of a sniper
situation. It's one-on-one.
One FOP makes one different. The kill switch was actually an
idea of mine that initially whenyou had the collar, the vision
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was that you could have many fobs around the house.
So couches, hallways, everythingelse, you could do it and then
it would come to a point that the dog could not access certain
areas. The keel suits was designed for
the owner to wear. So if you were walking with your
dog around the house, he can be next to you because he's allowed
to be next to you. He's actually encouraged to be
next to you. So the keel suits give him
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protection against everything around the house.
So you want to go through the front door with him, he's going
to follow your keel suits is going to actually kill anything
around him and it's going to allow you to walk through it
again. It was initially the intention.
I envisioned that you could have25 fobs in the house and that
would be great and that would beamazing.
And then I realized that you train once, like if you put the
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FoB under the couch, he doesn't know whether the FoB is there
anymore. After you take it out, you can
reuse the FoB. So now it comes to a point that
I think with five fobs you can train your entire homes.
Whether it's a 10,000 square feet home or a 200 square feet
apartment doesn't matter. You can use 5 fobs and reuse
them in different in areas. He's going to learn that.
So you don't really need to haveall those fobs around the house.
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It's one of those things that actually killed the product
itself because it was like, well, I was going to be selling
fobs. No, I don't need to sell fobs.
I mean, you have 4, that's enough.
You want more, I can sell you more, but it's not like you
definitely need them. I mean, it's just, it's just a
simple thing to be used. The kill switch is such a great
one because like you said that in that teaches them if I'm near
you, I can do more. I can go here, I can go there.
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But if I'm by myself, these are the boundaries.
These are the. Rules.
What I'm telling you about the couch, he's not supposed to be
in the couch ever. But if I'm in the couch, he's
allowed to be in the couch. He has to be in the couch.
Doesn't need to be on top of me,but that's only for a special
occasions. But I like to watch TV with him
next to me. That actually gives me a lot of
joy. But it is mostly creating those
limits and understanding becausemy limits could be those.
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I know that a lot of people, I don't mind my dog to be on top
of the couch. It's like great, there's nothing
wrong with that. My.
Dog's on the couch right now. I'm not going to show you the
proof because this is being recorded.
I don't want my wife to see the video.
I can actually deny that he was on the couch and this was just a
marketing experience. But right now he's on the couch
and he's looking at me and he's like, it's company.
Yeah, it's great. But you know, that's why I'm
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saying, you know, you can't. You can't think your dog's going
to be perfect because the owner's not perfect at all.
I mean that's he's not going to be never best than his owner
handler in this case. He's a he.
He says clown as a me. I mean, it doesn't make any
difference. So and we'll be always pushing
that a little bit more towards my wife and and I know that she
loves him. I always say that she's not a
dark person, but she's the firstone saying, hey, this did was
(34:05):
very today because I don't see any food on the bowl.
That bowl is too dirty. Do you wash him?
So she cares about him, but again, it's a kid from another
woman. She's never going to love him,
but she's going to accept it. She's definitely accepted and
I've caught her a couple times talking to the dog when she
thought I was not at home. And it's hilarious because I
would say she's handicapped on communication with the dog.
She would try to reach the dog like that just to touch it with
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the tips of the fingers because he's done something good.
Eventually all dogs win their winded the affection of people
around them. I think that's what's what's
great about dogs. They pretty much mimic anything
there's around them. If you're in a happy
environment, he's going to be a happy dog.
And if he sees that you're in a depressed moment, even if it's
not at one of those dogs that wants to be close to you,
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they'll get close to you and they'll try to push you forward
because that's what they do. They get around their family and
and move with the family. They support each other.
They do. They're such wonderful
companions, They truly are. For somebody who's listening,
who's maybe now on the fence, what would you want them to know
before making the decision? Or what would you say to them to
help them be less hesitant? So the first thing is, you're
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not going to hurt your dog if you use it correctly.
You can actually just handicap the color and not use the color
at all. Remove the fobs, remove the
mode, and you can use it just like a beeping and regular and
vibration. Second of all, you're gonna find
out that you have a way to communicate your doc that you'd
never thought you could actuallyhave.
And it's just simple. When you go to a broad country
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and you're able to say yes or noor we or no, it's just a yes or
no can help you a lot. And this is the same thing
you're saying, hey, no, no, no, don't do that.
You don't do it. You're happy, I'm happy.
And so I think that's going to help a lot because most of the
time, I think as dog owners, thelast thing we want is to hurt
our dogs. Our saying is that we try to
spoil the dogs more than we would even spoil our kids.
(35:55):
And I think that's one of the big things.
So definitely you're not going to hurt your dog.
And secondly, you're actually going to help it.
And the same thing with it with the kids.
When you have a well educated kids that you know, someone
comes to the house and they comeand greet and say hello, how are
you doing? And they keep clean and you
know, and they correctly, everyone fell in love with them,
even if they don't like kids, say, hey, what a wonderful kid.
(36:16):
Well, how educated kid you have.Well, the same thing happened
with the dog. When you have a well educated
dog, when you have a dog that actually knows the boundaries,
that is not going to be pushing them, the effect that you're
going to have on people is goingto be exactly the same.
They're going to fell in love with your dog where you're going
to say, Oh my God, he doesn't gointo your garbage.
Mine does. No, mine doesn't go into the
garbage. He's trained not to go into the
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garbage. I always make fun like, how many
times have you walked into a friend's house and first thing
you ring the bell and you fear the monster behind the door just
barking and scratching and and then you hear your friend.
Just give me a second. I'm I'm putting sugar right in
the cage. It's like that doesn't seem to
(36:58):
be sugar. And you find a small Chihuahua.
It's like, I thought it was like, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what I was expecting.
Well, you clean the door now. And once you get the pizza
delivery guy, you can open the door.
The dog's going to be right behind you staring at the guy
steering at the pizza, but he's going to stay 3 feet away from
the door because that's your space.
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You claim the door. So now you have the easy life of
knowing that you can open your door without having to push your
dog away from the door and having to be worried whether
he's going to jump over. No, just start creating space.
And if you have a partner, you're married, you have kids,
and you live in a house, no matter how big your house is,
you always need your space. You always, always need to make
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sure you define what's your space, what's my space, what's
the space of the dog and want everyone understands that.
I think there's a lot more peacein the house because you now
have your space and no one's around it and you can breathe.
The dog has his space. He knows where he can go and
cannot go. Your wife has your space.
Like, hey, I don't want the dog in the closet.
Great. He's not supposed to be the
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closet and I don't think he's going to be effective for not
walking the closet. So I would say don't be afraid.
I think he's good. You're not going to hurt your
dog and you're going to your relation with the dog because
you're going to find a new way to communicate with the dog.
And the great thing about it, ifit doesn't work, it's not a huge
investment. I would encourage people, if you
have any problem with the training, shoot me an e-mail.
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I'm into this product because I see what it's done to me.
And I've seen friends of mine using wrongly and they call me
or I see that they're doing it wrong and they tell them, dude,
you're not supposed to use it like that.
No, no. And I give them the guidance and
they see the change. It's like, oh, now I see it's
like, OK, buddy. I mean, the instructions say it
clearly. I told you clearly.
(38:44):
Obviously the doc does not need training.
You need a lot more training. Most of the time.
If there's a trouble, shoot us an e-mail.
We'll be more than happy to respond and let you know what
you might be doing right, what you might be doing wrong, and we
might even learn what you're doing that we never thought
about that. Because again, it's a
communication. You can use it any way you want.
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And there's going to people thatmight be able to evolve into a,
into a level that I cannot even envision.
And there's going to be people that are going to get stuck to
the no, no, not my couch. He can get in the trash.
He can get in the table, but notmy couch.
That's a 19th century couch. And OK, great, I'm not judging
everyone has to enjoy their homethe way they wanted to do it.
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This product is just a way on trying to help you do that,
achieve that. And you know, there's going to
be always people saying, Oh, I remember there was 11 message
that we got. You're a bad person and you
should use the color in yourself.
And and you know, and I wanted to respond.
I really, truly wanted to respond to that comment.
But Mike and my marketing guy tell me, no, you don't come from
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that. You don't say anything.
Just don't worry about it. And it's like, but it's true.
I use it on myself for a year. I mean, I shocked myself for a
year before I even put it on my dog.
And I know what that color can do.
I think it's a, it's a valid response.
It's like, no, no, Jesus, you'recrazy enough, but don't tell
that because that's not what they're looking.
They're looking to create negativity and everything else.
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Like, yeah, but I've done it. What's wrong with it?
I mean. I mean, I can tell you, and this
is something that I I know this is a joke.
A lot of women have to ask me ifthat it is worth for their
husbands to beware. And I would tell you, no, it
doesn't work on husband and thenhusbands.
I've tried. I use it on myself and still the
same guy that I used it before that it doesn't correct
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anything. The dog helps a little bit more
just because they're a little bit more smarter.
But husbands is not a is not a niche that you can use it on.
It doesn't work correctly. Good advice I think so don't use
it on your partners people. Doesn't help.
It doesn't work. We test it.
We test it and it doesn't work. I mean, Oh my.
Goodness. Well, Jesus, can you tell
everybody how to get ahold of you and where they can find PET
(40:51):
sensor? So they can actually get into
three WS dot pethyphensensor.com.
They can find us also in Amazon and anything that they might
need, just get into the website and you would find a lot of
videos. I mean, there's a lot of funny
videos that we have there just because they're real.
The interaction with dogs is always a funny thing to be done.
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And so we have a lot of videos, a lot of training, a lot of
tutorials that you can go into it and understand the product a
little bit more deeper. And what I would suggest, look
at the dogs. None of the dogs that we
actually film with are terrified, are scared.
They're happy dogs. They're enjoying the situation,
they're learning and the owners is the same thing.
You need to not be scared about the product.
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You're never going to hurt your dog unless you actually get the
bungee cords and start heating the dog with the bungee cord,
which doesn't make any sense. It's just disclaimer, don't hit
your dog with the collar. It doesn't work either.
It's easy, it's simple. You're not going to hurt him and
you are going to get an enhancement of the communication
with your dog. I think that's the key point
here. It's just feeling that
enhancements, feeling that you have a connection stronger with
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your dog. I think it's just the best part
of the product. Check out Pen Sensory and we'll
ask Jesus our final question, which is what would you like to
leave our listeners with today? Having a dog, it's a blessing is
something it's really important and creating that family union
between the dog and your family and enjoying the life of a dog,
it's great. Treat them with respect and
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you're going to get love withoutlimit.
I mean, it's just, it's just a great thing that you can
advocate with dogs, how you findyour way with their dog, whether
you can use pet sensor or not, or whether you can use anything
else. I would say try to improve the
relation with your dogs. It's just, I think it's the best
thing you can do. It is it pays 10 times of what
you invest in it. And I think that's the most
important thing about it. We're here because of the dogs
(42:40):
and I think that's the most important part of it.
I've heard him be kind, spread joy, and love your dog
limitlessly. Thanks for listening to Straight
Up Dog Talk and for taking the time to learn how to support
your dog. If meal time feels stressful or
confusing, I've created a free mini bowl blueprint with three
simple swaps you can make right now to bring more calm and
(43:02):
connection to feeding. You'll find the link in the
episode description. Go grab your coffee and start
making meal time easier today. New episodes drop every Monday
and Wednesday. I'll see you next time.
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