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February 27, 2026 58 mins

In this episode, I sit down with Josh Lyons, a high ticket sales trainer and the founder of the Unicorn Closer Mastermind. Josh shares how he went from his very first sales conversation to earning $100,000 a month in commissions in just 17 months, and why he believes most sales training is backwards. 

 

We get into what actually creates trust, confidence, and authority in a sales conversation, especially in real estate where the stakes are high and the emotions are real.

 

💡 What you’ll learn in this episode:

  • Why scripts and word tracks are not the real reason top closers win.
  • The four things every prospect must agree to before a real decision happens.
  • Why “detachment from outcome” is not a tactic, it is an identity.
  • The pre call checklist Josh uses to shift his internal state before every interaction.
  • How your personal life bleeds into your professional results, whether you admit it or not.

Josh’s message is simple and challenging. You do not earn more by doing more. You earn more by becoming more. If you are a real estate agent who wants stronger clients, cleaner negotiations, and more certainty in every room you walk into, this conversation will give you a different lens to work through.

 

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Links Mentioned:

    1. Letting Go: The Pathway of Surrender – David R. Hawkins https://www.amazon.com/Letting-Go-Pathway-Surrender/dp/1401945015
    2. Telegram https://web.telegram.org/ 
    3. Tao Te Ching – Lao Tzu https://www.amazon.com/Tao-Te-Ching-Laozi/dp/014044131X
    4. Unicorn Closer Mastermind – Josh Lyons https://www.instagram.com/joshlions.sales/
    5. Gym Launch (Alex Hormozi’s former company) https://gymlaunch.com/

 

Timestamps: 02:16 Josh Lyons Origin Story 03:56 Why Scripts Fail 07:00 Four Sales Agreements 09:24 Stop Getting Shopped 16:47 Becoming More to Earn More 19:49 Self Actualized Selling 24:14 Inner Mastery Checklist 27:27 Scarcity and Performance Anxiety 29:19 Income Ceilings and Father Figures 33:06 Finding Mentors Online 33:51 Law of Incongruence 35:11 Teaching Leadership Detachment 38:45 Negotiation Power Identity 41:40 Handling Prospect Tests 44:17 Unicorn Closer Definition 52:06 Quickfire Wisdom Round 56:12 Mindful Closing Reflection

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