February 28, 2025 • 18 mins
Welcome to the Mommas Lounge: Starting the Postpartum Conversation.
In the inaugural episode of the Mommas Lounge, Camille Perkins introduces the podcast, sharing her motivations and vision for creating a relaxed and comforting space for moms to talk about their postpartum experiences. Camille emphasizes authenticity, the importance of community, and the role of faith in overcoming postpartum challenges. She reflects on her journey, reads meaningful scriptures, and outlines future topics. This episode sets the tone for a supportive, non-judgmental environment focused on validation, sharing different perspectives, and finding strength in Jesus Christ and each other.
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Ever feel like postpartum is a wild, beautiful, and utterly confusing rollercoaster? Well, you're not alone.
I have a vision for creating a raw and relaxed space where Momma can share their postpartum experiences and reflect on their faith in Jesus Christ.
Hey, welcome to the Momma's Lounge podcast, where we get real about the beautiful chaos of postpartum.
(00:25):
I'm your host, Camille Perkins, and I'm happy you're here.
We're all about authenticity, the highs, the lows, and the unexpected messages. 6 00:00:32,620.1 --> 00:00:54,809.999 Hello, hello, hello, welcome to the Momma's Lounge.
(00:55):
.999My name is Camille Perkins and, um, first episode, I'm doing it. 8 00:01:01,949.999 --> 00:01:03,49.999 I'm finally doing this. 9 00:01:03,549.999 --> 00:01:06,629.999 I have recorded this episode twice now.
And this is my third time.
And the other ones just felt a little too rigid to, um, too serious.
(01:17):
And although I want this to be professional, I also want it to live true to its name, the lounge, and be relaxed, laid back. 13 00:01:26,189.999 --> 00:01:30,89.999 Um, and something that we don't, that I'm not going to be stressed about. 14 00:01:30,89.999 --> 00:01:51,400 I don't want to be stressed about how good my podcast sounds because I'm a mom and I don't have time to, uh, make it sound super extra Professional, you know what I mean? So, I figured if I'm going to set a tone, I better set it on the first episode, and that tone better be more like this. 15 00:01:52,19.999 --> 00:01:53,919.999 Um, I don't have a script anymore.
(01:53):
I have decided to kind of throw that out and instead go with what I feel a little bit more inspired to talk about today.
And it's going to be more a little bit like that, as I'm thinking about postpartum experiences.
And going along with like my scripture studies, uh, I want to be able to just do more of that.
(02:15):
So, for a rundown, um, Um, I will describe kind of what this podcast is going to be.
.999So here we're going to discuss, uh, our postpartum experiences and I'm hoping that this will be a place where we can lay back on our comfortable couches, eating, this is what I told my friend Brooklyn on a walk, eating our comfortable fries and our comfortable sodas and drinking our water, which if you don't have your water right now.
(02:45):
Pause this and go get your water.
Water is super important.
I suck at drinking water and it's one of my New Year's resolutions is to drink more water.
So I'm even going to drink some water right now so that I can live true to my goals.
.999Okay, so to just set an expectation, there will be no judgment here.
(03:06):
Um, there will be full validation here, um, and there will be, hopefully, no comparisons, um, to our stories from you or even me comparing myself to the people that I interview and rather just me and my friends and guests talking about our postpartum experience and what's been hard about it and what has helped us.
(03:31):
So, yeah.
Another thing is I don't want Me or people that come onto this podcast to be telling my listeners how you should do things, quote unquote, because everyone is so different. 29 00:03:45,304.999 --> 00:03:51,524.999 There really are no shoulds, um, and rather using our best, uh, judgment. 30 00:03:51,524.999 --> 00:03:53,065 Cause we know our family's the best.
(03:53):
We are here to see each other deeply and allow others to see us deeply.
And that is something that my friend and.
Wonderful doula, Rachel Fike, says all the time is just we're here to be seen deeply and to see others deeply.
And that's something that I really hope that this podcast kind of So, um, as a way to kind of start this podcast, I want to talk about like why I'm doing this, as well as just some experiences that led up to it.
(04:27):
I thought that'd be fair.
And then in the coming episodes, we'll have guests and I'll be doing interviews and it'll be really fun.
I wanted to talk about just what I feel like my calling is in life.
For a long time I've always felt that I need to be, um, a teacher.
Specifically one who helps with both people's quality of life and also being able to teach principles of what I believe to be the restored gospel.
(04:54):
.999Um, so if you don't know me, I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, and I believe that Jesus Christ is our Savior, um, and I believe that He died for us and atoned for us, meaning He made it possible for us to find relief and strength through Him.
Um, and so I will be using scripture in both, um, the Holy Bible, Kings James Version, as well as the Book of Mormon, um, And possibly some other scriptures or resources from the church that might help me feel inspired and connected to God. 42 00:05:31,854.999 --> 00:05:36,825 Um, if you aren't a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, um, please know that you are welcome.
(05:37):
Um, and that rather you can just kind of relate to the idea of Jesus Christ, um, and finding comfort and strength through Him.
And if you aren't Christian, You are also, of course, loved and welcomed, um, you are not an other, and rather I hope that you can find some kind of meaning and strength through what we talk about.
So yeah, of course, as part of my religion, I invite anyone to come and see, um, what the true Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is about and just learn through the Book of Mormon.
(06:11):
Um, but if you're listening to this podcast and aren't interested in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, that's totally fine. 47 00:06:17,309.999 --> 00:06:22,110 You don't, don't feel like listening to this podcast means you have to investigate the church.
That is not the case.
Um, and again, hopefully this can just be a place where we can kind of come together.
Learn about postpartum experiences and how we find hope and light.
(06:33):
.9995And for me, that happens to be finding hope and light through, um, Jesus Christ, um, as well as through other people, which is one of the reasons I'm doing this is upon becoming a mother. 52 00:06:46,474.9995 --> 00:07:01,310 Um, and struggling really hard for the first little bit, I learned that the best way that I found strength and hope and comfort was not just through Jesus, but also through other people, because I really believe that if Jesus were here, he would serve. 53 00:07:01,639.999 --> 00:07:05,510 And so when other people serve, they're acting, you know, as Jesus Christ would.
(07:06):
And so I think I found a lot of strength and comfort through other people because I felt nurtured and loved and cared for.
And so hopefully This podcast can be a way for us to be with each other, and sit with each other, and cry with each other, and laugh with each other, um, and see one another.
(07:27):
So.
Welcome to this podcast.
I'm really glad you're here and know that you are loved and cared for.
So today I was doing a scripture study and I didn't feel very satisfied with my first record of my episode.
It was very scripted and it was a script I wrote like two months ago and so I didn't feel very attached to the script anymore, uh, and it just felt really dry.
(07:51):
And so.
I recorded it anyways, tried to make it feel fun, but then as I was just thinking about it the last day, I was like, eh, I really don't like it, and I was like, maybe I'm just being perfectionistic, but then as I was reading my scriptures today, I felt that I needed to include, um, my beliefs because that's who I am, and I'm not gonna hide who I am in my podcast, I am a person who likes to be transparent and real, and so I felt I needed to re record this.
(08:21):
Being more of myself and part of that is a disciple of Christ.
So.
Yeah, here we are.
Now, I want to read a couple of verses from the Book of Mormon that make me think about all of the wonderful mothers and friends that I have who can relate to me and are listening because as I read these verses, it just really reminded me of you guys. 67 00:08:44,939.999 --> 00:08:47,159.999 So, love each of you.
(08:47):
I'm in Alma 31.
This is in the Book of Mormon, and I'm going to read in verse 31.
This is Alma and He, sorry, I hope you like being able to hear the pages turn. 71 00:09:05,514.999 --> 00:09:06,654.999 I personally like that. 72 00:09:10,654.999 --> 00:09:12,545 And so if you hate that, I'm sorry.
(09:14):
Anyway, so Alma, he I think is about to go out on a mission and is just kind of in a moment of Sorrow or discouragement, and this is a prayer that he says to the Lord, and he writes down his prayer.
.999He says, Oh Lord, my heart is exceedingly sorrowful.
(09:37):
.999Will thou comfort my soul in Christ, O Lord? Will thou grant unto me that I may have strength, that I may suffer with patience all these afflictions which shall come upon me because of, and then it says in the iniquity of this people, I'm just gonna say, because of the learning curve of motherhood.
Oh Lord, wilt thou comfort my soul and give unto me success? And then it says, And also my fellow, and I'm going to say mothers or friends who are learning to be moms or prospective mothers, whatever it may be.
(10:09):
.999And also my fellow mothers who are with me.
.999Yea, all these wilt thou comfort, O Lord.
.999Yea, wilt thou comfort their souls in Christ. 80 00:10:19,489.999 --> 00:10:26,390 Wilt thou grant unto them that they may have strength, that they may bear their afflictions, which shall come upon them because of the learning curve of motherhood.
Oh Lord, wilt thou grant unto us that we may have success in bringing them again unto thee in Christ.
(10:34):
And so this I might think of like, grant unto a success that we might all find comfort in Christ.
Um, behold, oh Lord, their souls are precious.
.999And I like to think that this is talking about each one of us as mothers, as well as our babies. 85 00:10:50,394.999 --> 00:10:52,355 Our babies are precious and sometimes.
Um, as we learn as postpartum mothers, we love our babies, but we don't always like our babies.
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Um, and it's important to remember that, Oh Lord, even when I'm in sorrow, I do recognize that my baby is precious and I love them. 88 00:11:11,809.999 --> 00:11:15,520 And I need help to be a mom so that I can take care of them.
.9And then, I love this in verse 37 and 38.
(11:21):
After this prayer and after the moms all get together and chat, if we're sticking with my version, it says, They did separate themselves one from another, taking no thought for themselves. 91 00:11:38,504.999 --> 00:11:41,835 What they should eat, or what they should drink, or what they should put on.
(11:43):
This is gonna connect to a book that my doula Rachel Fike suggested that I read that I'm gonna suggest everyone here reads.
It's called, To Have and to Hold.
Motherhood, Marriage, and the Modern Dilemma.
It's by Molly Millwood, a Ph.
D.
in Psych.
It's an incredible book, and there's a quote in there that I was reading today that says, well, she's explaining how suffering in motherhood comes from when we have expectations for what motherhood should be like, and so this is kind of her describing a part of that.
(12:17):
.999She says, I'm not arguing that the most emotionally sophisticated among us feel only pain and bypass suffering all the time, but we would all do well to ask ourselves periodically.
Are there layers of pain and suffering that could be peeled apart? Might I be able to find some relief if I remove the judgment from what I'm feeling and just notice the feeling itself? The suffering comes from when we resist, fear, or deny the full catastrophe of motherhood.
(12:49):
Instead of thinking, oh, like, my baby should be sleeping, so why is she not sleeping, and then getting angry about it, we can rather not have expectations for how our child is sleeping, and rather just live the life of motherhood and embrace it fully. 102 00:13:05,724.999 --> 00:13:07,334.999 And that might, it's still hard.
It won't take away the The pain of motherhood, but it might take away the suffering of motherhood.
(13:13):
And so I love this in verse 37, it says, taking no thought for themselves, or really taking no thought for what motherhood should be like, and rather realizing that motherhood is a journey for everybody separately, um, but something that we can come together on and talk about.
.999And in doing so, we can trust that the Lord will provide for us.
(13:36):
He has so far, and he will continue to.
.999And so in verse 38, it says, And the Lord provided for them that they should hunker not, neither should they thirst. 108 00:13:45,265.099 --> 00:13:52,205 Yet he gave them strength, that they should suffer no manner of affliction, save it were swallowed up in the joy of Christ.
.999I love that imagery of being swallowed up in the joy of Christ because sometimes I feel swallowed up in the sleepy tiredness of postpartum and feel angry, feel swallowed up in anger towards my situation, um.
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.999And instead I can remember that Jesus Christ is there for me, um, he's there for each of us and it's through him and also through understanding each other and not thinking that other people have it better than us, right? Um, just loving each other as Christ would love that we can find peace and strength. 111 00:14:33,169.999 --> 00:14:45,690 So that's kind of just my thoughts right now and kind of what I've been hoping that the vibe of this podcast will be is being able to understand that postpartum is really hard.
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And that's okay.
Um, it's normal to struggle to love every single second with your baby, especially if you're home with them all day. 114 00:14:55,609.999 --> 00:14:57,040 And that's okay. 115 00:14:57,399.999 --> 00:15:00,610 And we're here together and Christ can strengthen us together.
Um, some of the topics that I will be covering with all my friends who are going to come and be part of this podcast is things like postpartum depression and postpartum trauma, as well as things like learning how to prepare for postpartum, um, things that we wish we would have done postpartum because of the experiences we had.
(15:24):
We might also talk about things like, uh, let me pull up my calendar. 118 00:15:31,584.999 --> 00:15:31,874.999 Okay.
Postpartum boredom.
.999That's a big one. 121 00:15:34,704.999 --> 00:15:36,945 Um, postpartum sexuality and body image.
And then, like, unexpected things with postpartum.
Experiences with sleep training, not, not tips for how to sleep train.
(15:44):
Because that is a heated, that is a heated topic. 125 00:15:48,644.999 --> 00:15:53,515 And it's different for everybody, and I'm not a professional in that, and I don't think any of my friends are.
Um, none of us have written a book about sleep training, but rather our experiences with sleep training and how hard it was, and being able to validate each other with what that's been like.
Um, I'm like right in the middle of that right now.
(16:07):
And then also learning how to be postpartum in school at the same time.
Breastfeeding, pumping, stuff that we learned the hard way.
.999And then also, this one is fun, the dangers of Reddit. 131 00:16:20,224.999 --> 00:16:20,854.999 And reels. 132 00:16:21,364.999 --> 00:16:23,225 Um, man.
Uh, The beginning of my postpartum journey for some reason I just looked at Reddit all the time and it was helpful But it was also really dangerous and not as like helpful as you might think So anyways, those are some topics that we're gonna be covering and I'm sure that we'll come up with lots of other topics as We discuss and are talking things will come up But those are the ones that I have so far and then the way that I want to close my first episode Is just talking about how with each episode, we might be talking about heavy stuff.
(16:54):
Some, sometimes, not every episode, but sometimes we might be talking about heavy stuff, hard experiences that we had.
And so I hope that at the end of each episode, we can come to a point where we are able to kind of say, How did Jesus Christ help me through this? Or what things or how did people help me with this? What light is at the end of the tunnel? Um, and how can listeners, if they are postpartum right now and still struggling, or if they're Um, prospective mothers or about to be postpartum.
(17:22):
Um, what kinds of things might they be able to do? And I say might be able to do on purpose because, again, I don't want this podcast to be a place where I'm telling you what you should do. 137 00:17:35,974.999 --> 00:17:40,415 I really don't believe that, um, in a situation like postpartum, that that's helpful.
And rather things, I like to talk about things that helped me, and my friends can talk about what helped them, and then you as a listener can decide for yourself, uh, what might help you.
(17:53):
Or you can just try all the different things, and then eventually come up with a routine of your own. 140 00:17:58,74.999 --> 00:17:59,875 So, There you have it.
I don't have, like, a fancy, like, outro saying, so, um, I'll probably say a different one for each episode and eventually come up with one.
But today is going to be, I love you, and, um, I hope you have a good rest of your day.
(18:16):
And I hope that you can find light and joy knowing that not only is Jesus here for you today, but all of us Mommas all around you are with you and see you. 144 00:18:30,734.999 --> 00:18:34,464.999 And if you have a Momma that you're thinking about right now, go ahead and reach out to her. 145 00:18:34,514.999 --> 00:18:35,705.001 Tell her that you're thinking of her.
Um, and yeah, that's it.
(18:39):
I'm gonna end with, and yeah, you're awesome.
See you later, guys.
Ever feel like postpartum is a wild, beautiful, and utterly confusing rollercoaster? Well, you're not alone.
I have a vision for creating a raw and relaxed space where Momma can share their postpartum experiences and reflect on their faith in Jesus Christ.
Hey, welcome to the Momma's Lounge podcast, where we get real about the beautiful chaos of postpartum.
(00:25):
I'm your host, Camille Perkins, and I'm happy you're here.
We're all about authenticity, the highs, the lows, and the unexpected messages. 6 00:00:32,620.1 --> 00:00:54,809.999 Hello, hello, hello, welcome to the Momma's Lounge.
(00:55):
.999My name is Camille Perkins and, um, first episode, I'm doing it. 8 00:01:01,949.999 --> 00:01:03,49.999 I'm finally doing this. 9 00:01:03,549.999 --> 00:01:06,629.999 I have recorded this episode twice now.
And this is my third time.
And the other ones just felt a little too rigid to, um, too serious.
(01:17):
And although I want this to be professional, I also want it to live true to its name, the lounge, and be relaxed, laid back. 13 00:01:26,189.999 --> 00:01:30,89.999 Um, and something that we don't, that I'm not going to be stressed about. 14 00:01:30,89.999 --> 00:01:51,400 I don't want to be stressed about how good my podcast sounds because I'm a mom and I don't have time to, uh, make it sound super extra Professional, you know what I mean? So, I figured if I'm going to set a tone, I better set it on the first episode, and that tone better be more like this. 15 00:01:52,19.999 --> 00:01:53,919.999 Um, I don't have a script anymore.
(01:53):
I have decided to kind of throw that out and instead go with what I feel a little bit more inspired to talk about today.
And it's going to be more a little bit like that, as I'm thinking about postpartum experiences.
And going along with like my scripture studies, uh, I want to be able to just do more of that.
(02:15):
So, for a rundown, um, Um, I will describe kind of what this podcast is going to be.
.999So here we're going to discuss, uh, our postpartum experiences and I'm hoping that this will be a place where we can lay back on our comfortable couches, eating, this is what I told my friend Brooklyn on a walk, eating our comfortable fries and our comfortable sodas and drinking our water, which if you don't have your water right now.
(02:45):
Pause this and go get your water.
Water is super important.
I suck at drinking water and it's one of my New Year's resolutions is to drink more water.
So I'm even going to drink some water right now so that I can live true to my goals.
.999Okay, so to just set an expectation, there will be no judgment here.
(03:06):
Um, there will be full validation here, um, and there will be, hopefully, no comparisons, um, to our stories from you or even me comparing myself to the people that I interview and rather just me and my friends and guests talking about our postpartum experience and what's been hard about it and what has helped us.
(03:31):
So, yeah.
Another thing is I don't want Me or people that come onto this podcast to be telling my listeners how you should do things, quote unquote, because everyone is so different. 29 00:03:45,304.999 --> 00:03:51,524.999 There really are no shoulds, um, and rather using our best, uh, judgment. 30 00:03:51,524.999 --> 00:03:53,065 Cause we know our family's the best.
(03:53):
We are here to see each other deeply and allow others to see us deeply.
And that is something that my friend and.
Wonderful doula, Rachel Fike, says all the time is just we're here to be seen deeply and to see others deeply.
And that's something that I really hope that this podcast kind of So, um, as a way to kind of start this podcast, I want to talk about like why I'm doing this, as well as just some experiences that led up to it.
(04:27):
I thought that'd be fair.
And then in the coming episodes, we'll have guests and I'll be doing interviews and it'll be really fun.
I wanted to talk about just what I feel like my calling is in life.
For a long time I've always felt that I need to be, um, a teacher.
Specifically one who helps with both people's quality of life and also being able to teach principles of what I believe to be the restored gospel.
(04:54):
.999Um, so if you don't know me, I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, and I believe that Jesus Christ is our Savior, um, and I believe that He died for us and atoned for us, meaning He made it possible for us to find relief and strength through Him.
Um, and so I will be using scripture in both, um, the Holy Bible, Kings James Version, as well as the Book of Mormon, um, And possibly some other scriptures or resources from the church that might help me feel inspired and connected to God. 42 00:05:31,854.999 --> 00:05:36,825 Um, if you aren't a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, um, please know that you are welcome.
(05:37):
Um, and that rather you can just kind of relate to the idea of Jesus Christ, um, and finding comfort and strength through Him.
And if you aren't Christian, You are also, of course, loved and welcomed, um, you are not an other, and rather I hope that you can find some kind of meaning and strength through what we talk about.
So yeah, of course, as part of my religion, I invite anyone to come and see, um, what the true Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is about and just learn through the Book of Mormon.
(06:11):
Um, but if you're listening to this podcast and aren't interested in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, that's totally fine. 47 00:06:17,309.999 --> 00:06:22,110 You don't, don't feel like listening to this podcast means you have to investigate the church.
That is not the case.
Um, and again, hopefully this can just be a place where we can kind of come together.
Learn about postpartum experiences and how we find hope and light.
(06:33):
.9995And for me, that happens to be finding hope and light through, um, Jesus Christ, um, as well as through other people, which is one of the reasons I'm doing this is upon becoming a mother. 52 00:06:46,474.9995 --> 00:07:01,310 Um, and struggling really hard for the first little bit, I learned that the best way that I found strength and hope and comfort was not just through Jesus, but also through other people, because I really believe that if Jesus were here, he would serve. 53 00:07:01,639.999 --> 00:07:05,510 And so when other people serve, they're acting, you know, as Jesus Christ would.
(07:06):
And so I think I found a lot of strength and comfort through other people because I felt nurtured and loved and cared for.
And so hopefully This podcast can be a way for us to be with each other, and sit with each other, and cry with each other, and laugh with each other, um, and see one another.
(07:27):
So.
Welcome to this podcast.
I'm really glad you're here and know that you are loved and cared for.
So today I was doing a scripture study and I didn't feel very satisfied with my first record of my episode.
It was very scripted and it was a script I wrote like two months ago and so I didn't feel very attached to the script anymore, uh, and it just felt really dry.
(07:51):
And so.
I recorded it anyways, tried to make it feel fun, but then as I was just thinking about it the last day, I was like, eh, I really don't like it, and I was like, maybe I'm just being perfectionistic, but then as I was reading my scriptures today, I felt that I needed to include, um, my beliefs because that's who I am, and I'm not gonna hide who I am in my podcast, I am a person who likes to be transparent and real, and so I felt I needed to re record this.
(08:21):
Being more of myself and part of that is a disciple of Christ.
So.
Yeah, here we are.
Now, I want to read a couple of verses from the Book of Mormon that make me think about all of the wonderful mothers and friends that I have who can relate to me and are listening because as I read these verses, it just really reminded me of you guys. 67 00:08:44,939.999 --> 00:08:47,159.999 So, love each of you.
(08:47):
I'm in Alma 31.
This is in the Book of Mormon, and I'm going to read in verse 31.
This is Alma and He, sorry, I hope you like being able to hear the pages turn. 71 00:09:05,514.999 --> 00:09:06,654.999 I personally like that. 72 00:09:10,654.999 --> 00:09:12,545 And so if you hate that, I'm sorry.
(09:14):
Anyway, so Alma, he I think is about to go out on a mission and is just kind of in a moment of Sorrow or discouragement, and this is a prayer that he says to the Lord, and he writes down his prayer.
.999He says, Oh Lord, my heart is exceedingly sorrowful.
(09:37):
.999Will thou comfort my soul in Christ, O Lord? Will thou grant unto me that I may have strength, that I may suffer with patience all these afflictions which shall come upon me because of, and then it says in the iniquity of this people, I'm just gonna say, because of the learning curve of motherhood.
Oh Lord, wilt thou comfort my soul and give unto me success? And then it says, And also my fellow, and I'm going to say mothers or friends who are learning to be moms or prospective mothers, whatever it may be.
(10:09):
.999And also my fellow mothers who are with me.
.999Yea, all these wilt thou comfort, O Lord.
.999Yea, wilt thou comfort their souls in Christ. 80 00:10:19,489.999 --> 00:10:26,390 Wilt thou grant unto them that they may have strength, that they may bear their afflictions, which shall come upon them because of the learning curve of motherhood.
Oh Lord, wilt thou grant unto us that we may have success in bringing them again unto thee in Christ.
(10:34):
And so this I might think of like, grant unto a success that we might all find comfort in Christ.
Um, behold, oh Lord, their souls are precious.
.999And I like to think that this is talking about each one of us as mothers, as well as our babies. 85 00:10:50,394.999 --> 00:10:52,355 Our babies are precious and sometimes.
Um, as we learn as postpartum mothers, we love our babies, but we don't always like our babies.
(11:00):
Um, and it's important to remember that, Oh Lord, even when I'm in sorrow, I do recognize that my baby is precious and I love them. 88 00:11:11,809.999 --> 00:11:15,520 And I need help to be a mom so that I can take care of them.
.9And then, I love this in verse 37 and 38.
(11:21):
After this prayer and after the moms all get together and chat, if we're sticking with my version, it says, They did separate themselves one from another, taking no thought for themselves. 91 00:11:38,504.999 --> 00:11:41,835 What they should eat, or what they should drink, or what they should put on.
(11:43):
This is gonna connect to a book that my doula Rachel Fike suggested that I read that I'm gonna suggest everyone here reads.
It's called, To Have and to Hold.
Motherhood, Marriage, and the Modern Dilemma.
It's by Molly Millwood, a Ph.
D.
in Psych.
It's an incredible book, and there's a quote in there that I was reading today that says, well, she's explaining how suffering in motherhood comes from when we have expectations for what motherhood should be like, and so this is kind of her describing a part of that.
(12:17):
.999She says, I'm not arguing that the most emotionally sophisticated among us feel only pain and bypass suffering all the time, but we would all do well to ask ourselves periodically.
Are there layers of pain and suffering that could be peeled apart? Might I be able to find some relief if I remove the judgment from what I'm feeling and just notice the feeling itself? The suffering comes from when we resist, fear, or deny the full catastrophe of motherhood.
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Instead of thinking, oh, like, my baby should be sleeping, so why is she not sleeping, and then getting angry about it, we can rather not have expectations for how our child is sleeping, and rather just live the life of motherhood and embrace it fully. 102 00:13:05,724.999 --> 00:13:07,334.999 And that might, it's still hard.
It won't take away the The pain of motherhood, but it might take away the suffering of motherhood.
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And so I love this in verse 37, it says, taking no thought for themselves, or really taking no thought for what motherhood should be like, and rather realizing that motherhood is a journey for everybody separately, um, but something that we can come together on and talk about.
.999And in doing so, we can trust that the Lord will provide for us.
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He has so far, and he will continue to.
.999And so in verse 38, it says, And the Lord provided for them that they should hunker not, neither should they thirst. 108 00:13:45,265.099 --> 00:13:52,205 Yet he gave them strength, that they should suffer no manner of affliction, save it were swallowed up in the joy of Christ.
.999I love that imagery of being swallowed up in the joy of Christ because sometimes I feel swallowed up in the sleepy tiredness of postpartum and feel angry, feel swallowed up in anger towards my situation, um.
(14:12):
.999And instead I can remember that Jesus Christ is there for me, um, he's there for each of us and it's through him and also through understanding each other and not thinking that other people have it better than us, right? Um, just loving each other as Christ would love that we can find peace and strength. 111 00:14:33,169.999 --> 00:14:45,690 So that's kind of just my thoughts right now and kind of what I've been hoping that the vibe of this podcast will be is being able to understand that postpartum is really hard.
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And that's okay.
Um, it's normal to struggle to love every single second with your baby, especially if you're home with them all day. 114 00:14:55,609.999 --> 00:14:57,040 And that's okay. 115 00:14:57,399.999 --> 00:15:00,610 And we're here together and Christ can strengthen us together.
Um, some of the topics that I will be covering with all my friends who are going to come and be part of this podcast is things like postpartum depression and postpartum trauma, as well as things like learning how to prepare for postpartum, um, things that we wish we would have done postpartum because of the experiences we had.
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We might also talk about things like, uh, let me pull up my calendar. 118 00:15:31,584.999 --> 00:15:31,874.999 Okay.
Postpartum boredom.
.999That's a big one. 121 00:15:34,704.999 --> 00:15:36,945 Um, postpartum sexuality and body image.
And then, like, unexpected things with postpartum.
Experiences with sleep training, not, not tips for how to sleep train.
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Because that is a heated, that is a heated topic. 125 00:15:48,644.999 --> 00:15:53,515 And it's different for everybody, and I'm not a professional in that, and I don't think any of my friends are.
Um, none of us have written a book about sleep training, but rather our experiences with sleep training and how hard it was, and being able to validate each other with what that's been like.
Um, I'm like right in the middle of that right now.
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And then also learning how to be postpartum in school at the same time.
Breastfeeding, pumping, stuff that we learned the hard way.
.999And then also, this one is fun, the dangers of Reddit. 131 00:16:20,224.999 --> 00:16:20,854.999 And reels. 132 00:16:21,364.999 --> 00:16:23,225 Um, man.
Uh, The beginning of my postpartum journey for some reason I just looked at Reddit all the time and it was helpful But it was also really dangerous and not as like helpful as you might think So anyways, those are some topics that we're gonna be covering and I'm sure that we'll come up with lots of other topics as We discuss and are talking things will come up But those are the ones that I have so far and then the way that I want to close my first episode Is just talking about how with each episode, we might be talking about heavy stuff.
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Some, sometimes, not every episode, but sometimes we might be talking about heavy stuff, hard experiences that we had.
And so I hope that at the end of each episode, we can come to a point where we are able to kind of say, How did Jesus Christ help me through this? Or what things or how did people help me with this? What light is at the end of the tunnel? Um, and how can listeners, if they are postpartum right now and still struggling, or if they're Um, prospective mothers or about to be postpartum.
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Um, what kinds of things might they be able to do? And I say might be able to do on purpose because, again, I don't want this podcast to be a place where I'm telling you what you should do. 137 00:17:35,974.999 --> 00:17:40,415 I really don't believe that, um, in a situation like postpartum, that that's helpful.
And rather things, I like to talk about things that helped me, and my friends can talk about what helped them, and then you as a listener can decide for yourself, uh, what might help you.
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Or you can just try all the different things, and then eventually come up with a routine of your own. 140 00:17:58,74.999 --> 00:17:59,875 So, There you have it.
I don't have, like, a fancy, like, outro saying, so, um, I'll probably say a different one for each episode and eventually come up with one.
But today is going to be, I love you, and, um, I hope you have a good rest of your day.
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And I hope that you can find light and joy knowing that not only is Jesus here for you today, but all of us Mommas all around you are with you and see you. 144 00:18:30,734.999 --> 00:18:34,464.999 And if you have a Momma that you're thinking about right now, go ahead and reach out to her. 145 00:18:34,514.999 --> 00:18:35,705.001 Tell her that you're thinking of her.
Um, and yeah, that's it.
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I'm gonna end with, and yeah, you're awesome.
See you later, guys.
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