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May 2, 2024 28 mins

In this deeply engaging episode, we take you through a powerful journey of a family's struggle with a serious flu that hits their daughter. A tale of love, resilience, and the power of knowledge, this story is an eye-opening chronicle of at-home treatments and the necessity of professional medical intervention when the situation demands.

The host enlightens you on the effectiveness of certain home remedies, such as Comfrey Gold Salve, Gland Salve and ordinary saline water for ear, nose and throat issues. The episode discusses the potential benefits of peroxide and oils infused with garlic or mullein, gland oil application, and Dr. James's cough syrup. Despite the initial lack of improvement, the experience underscores the lessons of perseverance, reaching out for help, and close symptom monitoring.

From the personal trials of a family to unexpected healthcare blindspots, this episode is a roller-coaster ride. Discover home remedies such as 'tea honey' and slippery elm drink, their safe preparation, and their potential benefits, while also learning the power of early diagnosis and the right care. 

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Disclaimer: This episode is intended only for informational purposes and should not replace professional medical advice or consultation. The claims and statements discussed have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Please consult your healthcare provider for any medical concerns.

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(00:00):
Music.

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So today I'm talking with Lynn because one of our daughters was really, really sick recently.
And we just kind of wanted to share with you the experience we had with it.
She came down with whatever the nasty thing is that's going around.
And there's a lot of people that have been sick for like a week or two with it.

(00:31):
So when she first got it, she took some days off from work.
But the part we wanted to share with you is how things change.
So starting off with so the thing going
around sore throat earache what else
yeah it was sore throat earache headache like just no energy tired like beyond

(00:54):
tired can't function have to sleep all day but and i think it was a bit of stomach
too like just like a nausea that makes you not really
want to eat, but not a puking nausea.
It's like, it was a weird, I don't know. It was weird.
So let's talk a little bit about what, what do we do just, just when that comes up? Yeah.

(01:16):
So when, so when something like that comes up with our family,
which we've done for years and years, and actually probably decades,
we always treat ear, nose, throat.
So for anybody who doesn't know what that means, that means we swab the nose
with something because it's part of the sinuses.
It needs to be able to drain. You need to be able to breathe.
That keeps you from getting a major sinus infection.

(01:39):
So basically we swab with Comfrey Gold Sav. Or Gland Sav. Or Gland Sav.
Gland Sav, if you're daring, it just, it gives like the vapor and it just kind of gets things moving.
But Comfrey Gold Sav is very soothing and healing.
So if your nose is raw already, Comfrey Gold Sav is perfect.

(02:01):
But us crazy people, Glyon salve is my favorite.
Well, and I was also thinking like if somebody doesn't have the salves on hand
and it comes on really, really fast.
Yeah, you can use olive oil, you can use coconut oil, you can use whatever you want.
So typically to swab the nose, that's a Q-tip. You dip a Q-tip into whatever

(02:23):
you decide to put up your nose.
So like if it's Comfrey Gold salve, I just swirl it a little in Comfrey Gold salve.
It doesn't have to be tons of it. And then you swirl it around in your nose
and go as deep as you can comfortably handle.
And oh my goodness, the relief it brings is just awesome.
And you do that on both sides and you can do it multiple times a day.

(02:44):
There is no limit on that.
So even if your sinuses are just dry, you can do that. It's so awesome.
But then if I have little tiny kids, you know, their nostrils are really small
when I had babies or when I have grandkids over or whatever,
I actually have a squeezy bottle with coconut oil in it.
So I can just tip them backwards and just put a couple drops in each nostril.

(03:06):
And sometimes that just fixes everything
so their sinuses start moving and so that they're just way happier
and they can breathe better especially like on a nursing baby they have to be
able to breathe out of their nose so if they're not feeling well you need to
keep their nose clear coconut oil or even water sometimes just lubricates the
sinuses because when you mentioned the squeezy bottle the water because you

(03:29):
always have the water but is it just straight water.
Well just straight water is okay but
if you can do a saline solution with your
water with the water it's actually really nice
so if i had about a quarter cup of water i would put a pinch of baking soda

(03:49):
and a pinch of good salt in it so like pink himalayan salt or something like
that and then shake it up and i put it in that squeezy bottle if i have the
ratio right it doesn't burn in the nose.
Even when you have dry sinuses, it doesn't burn.
It soothes. One of those things kills bacteria in the nose and stuff.

(04:09):
So it helps to keep you from getting sick actually.
And then I think it's the baking soda that actually resets the pH in your nose.
So then it, and in your sinus cavity up there, so that then everything just
works as it should, because when you're sick, usually things go acidic.
So it needs to bring it back more on the alkaline side. And then you can breathe better.

(04:31):
So those are typically the things we do for the nose. For the nose.
Then we treat the ears. Yeah. So the ears, there's quite a few options.
The basic one is just I put peroxide in my kids' ears.
Just lay them down. Dump a little bit of peroxide in their ears.
Usually it bubbles a lot if it's needed. Like if they have an earache and there's...

(04:56):
I can't even think of the words, the stuff in their ear and the peroxide help
wax and stuff like that. Yeah.
The earwax, but sometimes there can, it could be a little yeasty or whatever.
And peroxide just helps with that.
But peroxide also helps to loosen up earwax.
If earwax is starting to clog things and make it everything not flow, it can loosen that up.

(05:17):
So then it can actually come out of the ears and stuff.
So we, so we do peroxide first and then we follow it
by a good oil or an ear oil so plain
olive oil would work plain coconut oil would work but typically
if it's got if it's like a olive garlic
oil or mullein in it is really good yeah so so we just do a good and most health

(05:41):
food stores would have ear oil just go in and ask them for yeah and they'll
have it it's already mixed like a ratio of the garlic and yeah yeah mullein
or yep and And it works really good.
And there's all sorts of videos on YouTube or ideas on Pinterest on how to make
your own if you're that kind of a person that likes to make your own concoctions
of what to put in your ears. Yeah.

(06:02):
But typically, and you can once the oil is in, like on a little tiny kid,
just getting it in, and then getting him to lay there for a few seconds and
dumping it out. That is better than nothing.
It at least coated the ears and the and stuff and it's doing good.
But but we like to put a little bit of cotton in the ears to hold it in there
for a while and then flip it over and do the other side and that you and then

(06:28):
put cotton in that side and you can go to sleep with it in your ears so then
it just gets to marinate a little bit longer,
so it is better if it stays in but on little tiny kids sometimes a few seconds is all you've got.
So ears, nose, and then there's the throat.
So for the throat, for us, we put gland oil on the outside of the throat because

(06:53):
if your glands get all swollen, it affects your throat.
And to find your glands, you start just behind the back of your ears.
And if you follow down your jawline, and then as it kind of like swoops down
to the sides of your neck, that's where the glands are and got lymphatics there also.
And by putting gland oil or gland salve there it

(07:15):
helps to draw anything out it gets sometimes
our lymphatics or glands get get clogged with
stuff and that helps to move it yeah so yep and then with the throat also that
kind of comes back to the nose because nine times out of ten a sore throat that
gets itchy and all sorts of stuff nine times out of ten it is the sinuses draining

(07:36):
from the nasal cavities up above the throat.
So when you swab your nose and get all that working, that actually can help with the sore throat.
But the sore throat, we use Dr. James's cough syrup mix.
And I keep that. That is always made in my fridge, no matter what the season
is, so that if somebody starts getting a tickly throat or whatever,

(07:58):
we start using that immediately.
We don't wait until we can't talk or until our throat is swollen shut to do anything typically.
We do cough syrup right away and then
because it's your nose throat sinus thing we
take affection and hay as and since
covet happened i always put monia and phlegm up in in my kids stuff just because

(08:21):
lungs and and i don't want their lungs to get bad or anything so that when we
have allergy things i typically put have them take ammonia and a phlegm up a day so that we're
hopefully not going to get any major thing.
It just keeps our lungs strong, gives the lungs the nutrients they need besides

(08:42):
the stuff in the sinus cavity.
And like you're saying, like the sinuses fill up with...
Or they're, you know, whether it's virus infection or whatever,
and that everything in our upper respiratory system is connected to the lower respiratory system.
And so gravity does its thing. And if it moves down, you want to like,
yeah, make sure you're taking care of both parts.

(09:03):
Yeah, yeah. So you kind of catch it ahead of time.
And so if we have kind of a raspy chest thing going on with that,
or breathing, whatever we love, Dr. James is analgesic.
It's kind of of like Vicks vapor rub. We just rub it on our chest a little,
and then we get to, we can breathe that in and it helps to open up sinuses, open up things.

(09:25):
But by having it on the chest, it also helps with the lungs.
At least for me, it helps with how my lungs feel.
Now, if somebody has a little tiny baby or toddlers and they don't necessarily
want to have it up on their chest, you put it on the bottom of their feet and put socks on them.
And somehow I can't remember all the details Dr.

(09:45):
James taught me about how that works and why somehow that works miracles on little people.
It may even work on adults. I've only done it on children, but you just put
one swipe on their foot, put their rubber around a little, put their socks on
them and it helps with their sinuses and breathing and everything.
So, so yeah, so we typically do that and then drink lots and lots of water.

(10:11):
Like it's when the sinus stuff is happening.
And then from my family, we have a little bit of a, not necessarily a reaction
to dairy, but when we're having sinus issues and congestion and all of that,
we get better way faster if we back off on dairy,
especially any processed dairy.
So cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, even normal store-bought milk.

(10:37):
If I have a raw milk supplier, we can still use a little bit of that of me. Okay.
But when we're really sick, we even back off on just all dairy,
we back off and, and sugar, and it helps them to get better a lot faster,
because those kinds of things help to keep you congested more.

(10:58):
So typically, that's what we do. So our daughter this week, though,
that was sick, she lives away from home.
So she was doctoring herself, according to her memory and, and the people around
her what she needed to do and stuff.
She was sleeping a lot, which was great and everything.
Well, then I get a call one day, she doesn't live very far from us.
But I get a call from my sister that she's living with.

(11:21):
And she says, her face is all swollen and her neck is swollen.
Like you can't hardly tell where her face begins
because everything is so swollen and it had just come on they
hadn't noticed it beforehand so she'd already
been sick for probably four or five days and then
all of a sudden like she's had a sore throat she hadn't eaten for a few days

(11:43):
because she felt nauseous but also because her throat hurt and it was hard to
swallow and and whatever and they they said they'd been trying to do all the
things we do but i don't know for sure what they were doing.
So I, so I went over to, to help because they were very concerned.
They're like, what do we do? And, and stuff. So, so I go over to help and holy

(12:04):
cow, her face was really like her neck was completely swollen and it did not
look good, but it didn't have a fever.
That's typically something I check first. If something has a fever,
that's a very dangerous deal with that fast.
Whatever's going on is definitely an issue.
And at a severe level, it didn't have a of fever. So I put my hand on it. It's not hot.

(12:24):
It wasn't even warm beyond what anywhere else on her body would have been.
And she didn't have a fever at that time.
So that was that the first check because that's a really not good sign if it does.
So then I asked her to open her mouth. She couldn't open her mouth far enough
for me to see into her mouth very much of what might be going on.

(12:47):
But her tongue looked funny. So she had like a white film on her tongue with
kind of red splotchy spots.
And I don't know if that's just because she wasn't able to eat or what it was. It was interesting.
And then she said, it feels kind of like maybe I have a lump at the back of
my mouth at the beginning of my throat.
So we started talking about that. We made sure we treated her for all the throat

(13:11):
stuff, all the, you know, the ear, nose, throat, sinuses.
We even did some ear candles on her and stuff but nothing would make it feel any better.
So then I started asking her, okay, this little lump thing you're feeling,
is it a little, does it move?
Basically, I was wondering if she had an abscess of some kind.

(13:31):
She had no teeth that hurt.
She hadn't had any problems with her teeth for a while. She just said there's
this little lump back there. And I didn't think anything of that.
So we just kept doctoring her all night long, slept on the couch to make sure
she kept breathing through the
night because it was getting increasingly difficult to breathe and stuff.
And we kept treating everything. And I I was dumbfounded that nothing was working.

(13:56):
None of our typical anything, because like we've had it before where a kid's
throat tried to swell shut with allergies or sinus or whatever was going on.
And we were able to give them sage tea and instantly it helps to open up the
throat and open up things.
We've done anti-spas because that can, it gets you to gasp for air and just,

(14:19):
And it instantly opens everything up also.
Yeah, it instantly opens things up and gets things to move and everything's good.
We tried all of those things. We tried everything I have in my toolbox to be able to take care of it.
So then I called a couple people to find out, okay, do you have any ideas what this might be?
And we thought maybe thrush, which I thought typically was a baby thing.

(14:41):
So like, that's kind of like fungus in your mouth, kind of like.
Not fungus is fungus the right word yeah kind of like candida in
the mouth but then that ends up in your stomach and typically with
a child they end up with a rash also because it goes through
the entire digestive tract so we thought maybe so we
got red raspberry leaf tea for her to
do that to try that and see if that would

(15:03):
do some soothing because that typically on a baby starts working
immediately that didn't do anything at all
and then we thought like the
thought crossed through my mind strep and
i've never straight up dealt with strep
so i didn't i just figured it's sinus
we'll just treat it the same as everything else well by the

(15:25):
next morning she still wasn't doing good we actually ended up taking her to
the emergency room because everything we tried was not working i i think what
we were doing was keeping it from getting any worse nothing got any worse and
she could still breathe but barely like and she couldn't talk i mean her
voice turned into a mouse voice and stuff.
So we finally decided to take her to the emergency room. And that was,

(15:49):
that was actually pretty awesome. It was a crazy thing.
That's part of why we're sharing this today because nobody I've talked to has
heard of what she was having an issue with.
So she, they asked her all these questions.
They went, they did the same things. They asked the same things I had asked.
Have, do you have any teeth issues?
Might this be an abscess? Have you had just all the sinus things? What are your symptoms?

(16:15):
How long have you had this? Just all sorts of stuff. And then the doctor looks
in her mouth and he said, it was kind of weird.
It is a tonsil abscess.
So at the back of her throat on the,
I think it's the right hand side, one of her tonsils had abscessed into her

(16:37):
throat and that's why the entire side of her face so on the right hand side
was way more swollen than the left.
I think the left was just an overcarry of.
Of what was on the right. So it was a tonsil abscess and they had to drain it.
And then they were going to have to give her antibiotics to be able to get rid of it.

(16:57):
But they said that typically a tonsil abscess starts with strep.
So then they tested her for strep and she had strep. And we didn't realize that she had strep.
That would have been nice to catch like days and days before and know that that's what it was. Yeah.
So they had to stick a nasty needle with a syringe in her back,

(17:21):
in the back of her throat.
And they actually popped it and sucked out as much as they could into that syringe.
Oh my goodness. That was so nasty.
So gross looked so awful, but immediately she felt the pressure kind of release and it was still,
she was still in pain and oh my goodness, she had to spit and spit and spit

(17:44):
because it just kept draining and draining and draining.
And the doctor said she would need to do that. So, but by the time evening came,
she was actually okay enough that she thought she would be able to sleep and
not be terrified that she'd wake up not breathing.
So even after all that we could do herbally, which we've been doing it for decades,

(18:06):
and like, this is her first time in a hospital and I've never had to take anybody
into a hospital except for, for broken bones and stuff like that.
So it was a new experience for me but it was wonderful that they were able to
see and know what to do for it i was glad they didn't have to take her tonsils
out and she couldn't have opened her mouth wide enough for that anyways yeah

(18:27):
and stuff but but the power of that so.
With that she needed to
be on antibiotics so i guess since we're talking to people if you end up on
antibiotics make sure that you take things to keep your bowels moving and your
body functioning properly in that manner because antibiotics typically constipate

(18:49):
people and those chemicals and what's making you sick,
like strep and all of that, can't move out of your body if your bowels and those
things are not functioning well.
So typically yogurt, we use Cleanlax,
lots of affection, lots of affection. Yeah. And fact, well, affection helps with the,

(19:10):
from the abscess, but that also helps with strep because it has to build back
up your immune system and you need to build up your immune system from taking all those antibiotics.
Also antibiotics are really, really rough on the body.
Now, really crazy people that I've talked to, they will get something lanced like that.
And then they don't do the antibiotics. They just infection.

(19:31):
So, but that's a, you and your doctor discussed that. That's not just something
you take lightly because you do not want to get so sick that strep takes your life.
Yeah. Or for it to come back or for it to come back or whatever.
So that's a, that's a, for me, a prayerful decision, but sometimes we just do
the, the take that antibiotic, which I'm glad I have never had to do that.

(19:55):
But for my daughter, she's going to take that and then we'll help to get her
digestive check back in order after she gets past that.
And we had learned years and years ago, once you start taking that antibiotic.
The doctors say, take it this minute, every this many hours for this many days.
And it's very, very important that you do that. Don't take the first dose.

(20:17):
If you don't plan on following it through and going all the way to the 10 days,
because that creates issues in your system you must
take the entire it really makes
a difference to take the entire the entire protocol
for the 10 days or whatever it is that they say you need to take to be able
to do that awesome so real quick before we end the because our daughter while

(20:43):
she was here at our house was carrying around like six or eight cups of stuff
what did you so there was water of course. Yeah.
Keep the water going. But because she couldn't eat, couldn't swallow,
what else were you giving her? We were giving her tea honey.
Actually, there's a recipe on the website for it. We swear by the stuff.
I have a brother that calls it Hulk juice.

(21:03):
It's his Gatorade of choice and way better for you than Gatorade.
It's a mixture of vinegar and honey in water.
I have a friend that when I told her about tea honey, she was like,
oh, wait, we do drink that, but only as medicine.
And we do it hot when allergy season and sore throat season comes around.

(21:24):
So you can do it like a hot cider and.
Some people like to even add cayenne to it and stuff. So yeah,
we can put a link down in the, in the notes for this for tea,
honey, but that keeps a body hydrated and it gives your body vitamins and nutrients
that you need vital vitamins and nutrients.
Because one of the biggest things that people

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get in the hospital for with allergy and
flu symptoms and everything is dehydration and malnutrition
so if you're too sick to do anything else
you do tea honey and that keeps your system
alive enough and well enough on the
inside to survive through that
and not end up in the hospital on IVs with so

(22:08):
I'm just glad we didn't have that on top of everything else to
deal with because she had been drinking tea honey
and we like to I add like five drops
of iodine to it that seems to help with throat
stuff besides keeping your body up in the nutrients
of iodine because your body needs so much of
that to process so many things so we do iodine

(22:29):
and then some kind of yeah and helps with viruses and everything so and then
we typically do something kind of like emergency there's all sorts of different
brands of emergency type powders vitamin c powder things you can put in your
in your drinks typically we make a cocktail of the the tea honey.
We put the emergency in it and iodine in it and have my kids drink it.

(22:52):
Now, there's some of my kids that do not like it at all and it is medicine for
them and I have to make them drink it.
And there's others that drink it all summer and all year and absolutely love it.
Some of them like it warm, some of them like it cold, but it keeps you from
ending up in the hospital dehydrated.
So, so was it just water and tea, honey? Cause there was other things.

(23:14):
So like the teas, we had sage and Mullen tea. Oh yeah.
So, so she was, we did give her sage Mullen tea. The sage helps to bring down
swelling in the throat. Mullen is absolutely amazing.
I remember when I was little, when Dr. James was still seeing clients in a milk truck.
So he would drive around to people's houses and see them.

(23:36):
And he would take us camping and we would go out into the mountains of New Mexico
and we gathered mullein because at that time he was,
he had individual herbs and he would make people teas for all of their needs.
There was no capsules, there was no formulas, there was no anything.
So we went and harvested mullein and that takes gloves and you don't want to

(24:01):
be itchy and stuff, but it is absolutely amazing for the throat.
It is, it's just absolutely a miracle.
So if you're ever out camping and you start getting a sore throat and don't
have anything on you, if you know what Mullen is, you make a Mullen tea and it is pretty amazing.
So she had a Mullen sage tea because that was what we know can help with swelling

(24:22):
in the throat, but it wasn't working, but it probably still helped with the
strep part of it. It just didn't help with the abscess part.
And then we also, her other tea. So she had a red raspberry leaf tea that we
were doing that was in case it was thrush.
So that was there. And then because of the nutrient problem,
we knew because she hadn't eaten for days, we were giving her slippery elm drink

(24:46):
and she wasn't able to get much of that one down for some reason.
And the abscess and the swallowing may have been, but we can put the slippery elm drink if she.
Link down there because that is major nutrients. So if people can't get anything
down or if they have a stomach thing tied to whatever is making them sick,
it actually soothes the stomach lining and soothes the throat.

(25:09):
Slippery elm is good for the throat as far as the sore throat,
but it's good for the stomach as far as the stomach ache.
It just has this soothing nature and it latches onto things and helps to pull
things out that are making you sick.
So the slippery elm drink is absolutely amazing. It's a mix of like,
we like to do ours with a nut milk.
So we make ours, we put a little bit of nuts in the blender,

(25:31):
like cashews in the blender and water. So we make our nut milk first.
And then we add a little bit of slippery elm and some cinnamon,
some nutmeg, if we have it, some honey, because honey is very soothing and just,
just really good for, for healing things.
And then it has a raw egg in it.

(25:52):
So we put hot water into it. So it's a hot mix already, have the blender running,
and then drop an egg in from the top while the blender's running.
And it just makes it an emulsified, it just mixes in there.
And then we put a tablespoon of coconut oil in it because that's nutrient dense.
Also helps to keep your blood sugar up, even if you can't eat.

(26:15):
It works really, really well to give slippery elm drink to elderly people that
are having a hard time holding things down and stuff.
And it's way better for you than Ensure or any of those other bottled protein drink things.
It's, it's really good for you. So those were the things we did.
And I think she had done that for a few days. She had.

(26:35):
Been doing slippery elm drink also and those
are the things that kept her nutrients up and stuff
even though she could not swallow much
of anything we also at some point had made her a smoothie and she could only
drink a few tablespoons of it because the way her stomach was feeling in her
throat and whatever but even a few tablespoons was enough to keep her from being
admitted to the hospital for for dehydration or malnutrition which typically

(26:59):
comes for an with an extended illness.
Yeah. So, along the lines of the raw egg, if you're really concerned about the
raw egg, you can basically take, if you boil some water and put the raw egg
in there for your, like, put your egg whole,
like you're going to do a hard-boiled egg, but only do it for 10 seconds.

(27:21):
Basically, that will kill any, you know, bugs
or whatever bacteria that you might feel is
in your egg that will so so if you're
really concerned about the raw egg in the slippery elm drink a lot
of people are okay with it but if you're concerned about that then
yeah yeah well with mine typically i have just put boiling water in yeah and
that does so about the same thing yeah so i put boiling water in the blender

(27:46):
so then by the time i drop that egg in there but seriously if your blender is
not running and you do that you are going to have scrambled egg smoothie of thee.
It is gross. It is really, really disgusting.
So make sure the blender's running when you put the egg in or do what you said,
that method to sterilize your egg if you're concerned.
I appreciate you talking with me today. If you guys have questions,

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let us know and we'll talk to you next time.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Ridiculous History

Ridiculous History

History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.

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