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April 22, 2025 43 mins

Have you ever wondered if there's more to the 9/11 story than we’ve been told?

 

In this thoughtful and revealing conversation, Eric Rice sits down with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer, a decorated intelligence officer and author of Operation Dark Heart. Schaefer was part of a covert operation—Able Danger—that allegedly identified key terror threats before September 11, 2001... and was shut down just months before the attacks.

 

This is not a conspiracy rant. It’s a calm, intelligent discussion from someone who was there, in the room, holding the data—before the headlines ever broke.

 

In This Interview You’ll Discover: 

✅ What “Able Danger” was—and how it could’ve changed history

✅ How early warnings about terrorist networks were handled internally

✅ Why Schaefer lost his security clearance after trying to tell the truth

✅ What the 9/11 Commission didn’t include—and why that matters

✅ How military intelligence works behind the scenes in times of crisis

✅ Why it's more important than ever to ask questions and stay informed

 

🎙️ If you’ve never heard this side of the 9/11 story, this is your invitation to listen with an open mind. No shouting, no finger-pointing—just facts, experience, and questions that deserve answers.

 

00:00 – Introduction and Context

Opening the show, setting up the topic, and discussing Tucker Carlson's 9/11 comments. Introduction of Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer and his role as the original 9/11 whistleblower.

 

10:00 – Able Danger and the Early Warnings

Tony details the origins of the Able Danger program, pre-9/11 intelligence gathering, and his meeting with Philip Zelikow of the 9/11 Commission in 2003.

 

20:00 – Pentagon Pushback and Retaliation

Tony describes the government's retaliation, including the suspension of his security clearance and petty accusations involving minor expenses.

 

30:00 – Meetings with Congress and the Cover-up Deepens

Colonel Schaefer meets with Congressman Kurt Weldon, shares critical intel, and learns that the 9/11 Commission deliberately ignored or buried his disclosures.

 

40:00 – Institutional Resistance and Final Thoughts

Exploring how various military and intelligence agencies clashed over Able Danger. Tony reflects on the need for a new investigation, accountability, and his hopes for future transparency.

💬 Comment below: Do you think it’s time to take a second look at what really happened before and after 9/11?

 

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