October 28, 2025 • 40 mins
Derek, Dave, and DJ react to the Atlanta Falcons’ 34-10 loss to the Miami Dolphins. They break down what led to the loss, including the absence of injured starters, problems in the run game, and more. They then talk about what to expect from the Patriots next Sunday and wrap it up with keys on how to leave New England with a win.
0:00 - Intro
2:52 - What caused the 360 turnaround?
9:30 - Injuries impact & execution issues
25:02 - Moving on to New England
31:22 - Returning to the win column
33:24 - Keys to a Falcons WIN!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
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bit thinking about what these two guys can do.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The Falcon's audible, presented by AT and T is back.
Your three are here. That's DJ Shock. He's always throwing
it up no matter what the circumstances are. That's Dave Archer.
I'm Derek Brackley here. We're gonna break down as best
we can of thirty four to ten Falcons lost to
the Miami Dolphins, and then we'll go ahead and turn
the page and we'll talk about New England Patriots because
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that's the next on the dock in the only game
that matters is the next game. However, but when you're
in our business. You got to go back and you
got to look, you got to talk to and I'm
sure a lot of you that are listening and watching
want to hear us tell you why or how, why
or how did that game happen?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Arch.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'm going to start with you. If you go back
before the season started and you started looking at the calendar,
and this is where you can fall into a trap,
right you can fall into a trap in the National
Football You can see three games that say Miami, New England, Indianapolis,
and you're like, gosh, that's a favorable stretch right there.
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And then you actually start playing football game and you
actually played a game, and you get a one in
six Dolphins team that's playing upset, playing inspired, playing motivated
because they got absolutely called out the previous week, they
got embarrassed the previous week, the previous two weeks, if
you will. And when you look up and you got
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two teams in the Patriots Division leader, Colt's Division leader,
one of the best teams in the league, leading the
National Football League and scoring you know what, that thing
that you circled that looked like pretty manageable games not
so much anymore much. But let's talk about this Dolphins
game arch because it was a situation where Atlanta, coming
off a poor performance against San Francisco, thinking this has
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got to be a bounce back game. You're facing a
team that's reeling, You're facing a team and a quarterback
that's given the football away, okay, and so you're thinking,
we're licking our chops defensive side, right, We're licking our
chops because we're gonna have a chance for takeaways. We're
licking our chops offensively because there were not a good
run defense statistically, and then everything but that happened, no takeaways,
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two of throws for four touchdowns, no picks, and they
absolutely shut down the run game. How in the world
did it just completely three sixty round?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, it's the National Football League, right, you're not ready
to play, and not saying that the team wasn't and
the Falcons were ready to play. I think I think
you give more accolades and and maybe shine the light
a little bit more on Miami as opposed to what
Atlanta didn't do. But Atlanta contributed to that performance by
Tua and and by the Dolphin defense. But I think
that when you when you look at and you try
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to kind of dig down deep as to why this
game went a certain way. It starts great, I mean,
you go three and out on defense, got a really
cool design. Defensively, they run motion across, nobody goes with
him as you're thinking zone. If you're Tua right shock,
you're thinking zone. Then all a sudden boom, here come
two guys off the edge. They get the quarterback on
the ground. Couldn't have started any better with a sack.
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D Afford comes in and gets the sack, with Ellis
coming clean as well. So you start perfectly. You get
the football and dysfunction begins. You run it twice for nothing,
and then they run a they run a three man
stunt to the left side. Here comes a guy clean
and Kirk's face. He barely gets it out to pits.
And so you start sleepily, if that's such a word,
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sleepily offensively, though sleepily offensively. And then they get the
football and would they go on a nineteen play drive
or something like that to move move it down the field.
So when you dig through the minutia, for me, guys,
is it's okay, why did the defense get run on?
And all that kind you can talk about, Okay, what
they're doing schematically, all this kind of stuff, extra offensive
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line in the game, whatever you want to talk about.
You're on the field too much defensively, Okay, you're on
the field for thirty eight minutes. Okay, at some point
I'm going to figure out how to attack you. On
the conversely, on the other side, you were four for
fifteen and third in conversion situations. That counts third down
and fourth down. That contributes to what happened to your defense.
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You can say, well, what's the best way to help
our defense stop the run. Don't have them on the
field for thirty eight minutes. And so the offense was
dysfunctional in conversion situations. And it wasn't third and long, guys,
it was fourth and three, third and five, and you
didn't you didn't convert. So what leads to that, It
leads to there's a number of things. You can talk
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about design of offense, and you can talk about all
the things, but ultimately it's about executing the plays, executing
your job at the highest possible level. And we didn't
play well up front. We didn't play well at the
quarterback position, and I didn't think we overly were decisive
from a wide receiver standpoint. Other than that, we were
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
On those three things that you said, though were awfully.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Large. Shock.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm going to repeat this because different audience. But on
the pregame show, Taylor was talking to me, this was
post San Francisco about thinking back to my career and
how do you find consistency? Okay? And so I went
back and I'm going, I'm gonna kind of quiz you
guys here because this is two thousand and four season, okay,
And that season we had two separate four game winning streaks.
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I said, well, how do you get consistent? Is you
got to find winning streaks, right. You got to find
a way to put yourself in position to where you're
looking at postseason. That only happens by winning games. And
when you're struggling, you gotta find ways to stack one
after another after another. But I said, yeah, that's all elementary.
It's like Rack, I understand, you gotta win games. You
gotta get on a winning streak. That's fine, and Andy,
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how do you do it? Okay? And I said, that
year we did what we did best better than anybody else,
and we ran the football. Okay, both four game streaks
we averaged like I want to say it was one
hundred and eighty or one hundred and seventy rushing yards
a game, and then it was like one hundred and
eighty five rushing yards a game. Like we absolutely dominated
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in the ground game. Now fast forward to twenty twenty five, Fellas,
what does Atlanta do really well? Like they're a running
football team, Like their offensive line has been together for
a long time. They got one of the most dynamic
running backs in the National Football League, and then they
have the bowling ball of razor blades behind it. Right
as I say that, correct, you nailed it, center road shock.
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What we do best has disappeared, and that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It is a problem. And when you hang your hat
on that particular part of the game and it doesn't
work and you have to adjust, that's when that's when
things start to spiral out of control for you and
things don't really go as playing. And I think the
last couple of weeks, when we haven't been able to
run the football or we haven't dominated the line of scrimmage,
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and then we have to turn to somebody else and
it's not really what our forte is. Then there's when
things start to come up and Artie mentioned it didn't
think that you know on the outside that you know,
you played relatively well. When I watch the game, I
go back and look at it, and then I think
about it more. You think about how hard it was
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for completions, how tough it was. Everything it felt like
was contested. Everything felt like if a guy caught the wall,
there was a guy there, or it was a Really
it was just hard to get yards, it felt like.
And are actual had a great job of talking about
some of the things that obviously that has struggled for
us offensively with when it comes to the run game,
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and you know, having guys been able to you know,
change the line of scrimmage on I mean a prime
example is, you know, on the three four yard line
and we down to get a safety because there's pushback
in the backfield first and then you got to run
through by the backer. That's something that obviously they seen
on tape from last week. Run blitzes, run calls, and
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certain things tell defensive guys, hey, this is what's coming.
And I think ultimately it just comes down to a mindset,
to be honest, and for years we've always talked about
it's third and one fourth and one, and they know
you're gonna run the football. Oh well, okay, they know it,
stop it. And I think the mindset has to get
back to just being the more physical. Ultimately comes down
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to that guy in front of you. You moving that
guy in front of you or not. And ultimately, last
I think a couple last couple of weeks, we haven't
done that, and that's been probably the biggest issue. And
then when we can't run the football, it's say, okay,
let's try to use play action. Let's try to use
stuff that how you go use play action when you're
not running football with respecting it. So, but that's part
of your that's part of your game plan, that's part
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of who you are in offense, and it's how you
set certain things up. So it's tough to be able
to to to have things go with other things if
the first part of it is not working with which
you run the football.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Guys, there is an element to this of players not playing. Okay,
and I'm gonna just I'm not gonna talk just about Atlanta.
I want to give you some examples from around the league. Okay,
Baltimore Ravens have been ravaged on defense, and their quarterback
has not played the last two games. Ravens struggling. Okay,
then you flip over to the NFC. Just think about this, Giants,
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what have they done? Made a quarterback change? Okay, Vikings
quarterback's been injured. They had to They've had to pivot.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
By the way, these two, both of these teams are
at the bottom of their division. Saints quarterback issues, a
lot of other things going on, bottom of the division,
all right, Cardinals Kyler Murray, he got hurt. They've had
to go to the backup quarterback. They're two and five.
Even the forty nine ers at their five and three,
their starting quarterback has been hurt. However, Mac Jones comes
in and he's been playing really well. The moral of
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the story, fellas is when your starter in the NFL
is not playing, that is a bad thing. Okay, there's
not too many backups in the National Football League that
come out and they actually take the league by storm.
Then when you compound, there's no Jaylen Walker, there's no
Zach Harrison, obviously no Drake London in the game. We
see what type of difference maker he is. Arch how
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much can you attribute to Diablo those guys that have
been mainstays at their positions not in the lineup.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, if you're overly dependent on the guys that are out,
which I think applies to what who Shock just mentioned
Divine Diablo. You felt you got him in free agency
and you thought, Okay, he'll blend nicely into the defense.
He hasn't just blended nicely in the defense. He might
be the best player on defense based on what we
try to do because of his versatility. We saw that
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this weekend because they tried to expose his backup in coverage,
which is what Divine Diablo did in college. He was
a safety and they've converted into a linebacker. So I
hear what you're saying about guys being out, And certainly
you contribute some of the drop off from an offensive
standpoint or a defensive standpoint to guys not being on
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the field. But everybody's dealing with that. You just mentioned
a bunch of teams, and some of them are struggling,
some of them are not. We played the forty nine
ers on a Sunday night and they had both their
inside linebackers are gone. You'd have thought we were playing
the eighty five Bears. I mean they were coming downhill
stop in the run game, So I think that that
can be overblown a little bit from a missing And
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Pennix has only been out one game, so what happened
prior to that? He was in the game in Carolina,
He was in the game in San Francisco, So I
think that So now you have to dive deeper into it.
And when I look at people being able to gang
up on the run, why are they able to stop
the run game? What's going on with our run game?
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Are we getting away from it too quickly? Or are
there some tells that are giving teams now that they
have tape on how to defend Bajan Robinson and Tyler Aljier.
I'm leaning towards the ladder in that situation. So now,
Zach Robinson, I'm sure he's over in the library right
now with you know, or in the in the laboratory
right now with with TJ. Yeats and Coach Williams and
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all those guys, Coach Petrie trying to figure out how
do we show them what we've been doing and have
counters off of it. And some of that has to
do with what shock'say in if they're going to come
downhill and stop the run. We have to touch them
in the passing game, and that means play action. I
got to show run and I got to show what
I normally show with Baijon, and it's got to mesh
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with our our play action game. If you can do that,
there's gonna be explosives all over the field. Also, we
don't have I don't want to be brutally honest here,
but we don't have man beater guys on the perimeter.
You've got one guy if Drake's out, because Drake can
do it from a basketball perspective. He also runs better
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than people think he does. But you've got one man
beater on the perimeter as long as Bijan's in the backfield.
That's Darnell Mooney. So I've got to create opportunities if
we're gonna see man coverage, and get ready, Vrabel's gonna
play man coverage because they're gonna do the same thing
they've seen last coup. And that's what they do anyway,
is they try to crowd the line of scrimmage and
they play man. They trust their secondary and what they've
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seen on tape is Atlanta can't beat you if we
play man coverage, so I've got to get guys running
away from people so I can make some throws on
the move to guys run away. And Mooney, to me,
is a guy that we're running him on deep post routes.
In all honesty, guys, if I was going to pick
a guy for a fifty to fifty guy that's going
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to be tight covered, that's not the guy I'm picking.
But if I got Mooney run and shallow crossing route
and a guy's trying to trail him, I like that.
I'm going to get him the football. He's explosive. But
these are just these things that I'm seeing. Nobody's telling
me this or anything like that, And there are things
you can you can you can create and things you
can do. So as much as I want to run
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the football, I think you got to do some of
the house.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I want both of you guys to chime in on
this because you make a great point as far as
how do you run away from the defense and create
some explosive plays, And you were kind of alluding to
maybe a little bit of speed. But I want to
counter back, and I want to say, what about guys
like Puka Nakua, Cooper cup Lad mcconki. I wouldn't necessarily
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say those guys are run away from the defense. So
how do those guys get so much success when you
maybe have more possession route runners and not necessarily create
separation from coverage.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, you're creating it by the route you're running. Shock.
You know, you run a shallow drag route. You know,
if I get the guy in a trail position and
I stare step him, boom, all of a sudden, I've
got to create I've got separation. And by the way,
Nikua can run pretty well, and so can maconkey. But
but all these guys can run to a certain extent,
create them an opportunity to beat man coverage. I think
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there's too many to me. If I'm a quarter and
I'm looking at it from our perspective, shock, if I
see a team that's going to play man coverage, I
want the option for my guys to read it out.
And if it's man boom, I'm running away and running away.
I don't mean running away because of his speed. I'm
talking about running away because of the way the route,
what the route is. I don't want guys running a
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stop route I'm helping the guy defend her out, you know.
But I've got to have those readout plays, and we
have those in the system where they're reading coverage. If
it's man boom, I'm running away. If it's zone, I'm
getting in a hole and I'm sitting down. And those
of the kind of things that I think we're a
little bit distunction on. Not that we don't have it
in the system. I think Zach's calling it. We've got
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to execute it better. That's why I get back to
the execution in Shock.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
He makes a great point because and I can say
from my tight end days and practice and everything that
a lot of route running and getting open is using
little things to your advantage. Like I think you could
look at a guy like DeVante Adams now later in
his career, DeAndre Hopkins, right, One of these guys do
really well. Is they know how to use their body,
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They know how to set defenders up, and they know
how to create separation because maybe they're not as quick
and fast as they used to be, but they're so
savvy shock that the nuances of route running, they understand
all that, and they understand where the defense is trying
to attack and then how do I counter that to
get myself even more open, to show the quarterback that
he can throw me the football.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Guy that instantly ran into my brain as you talked
about that. It was a guy that I saw. Aren't
you called his games rack? You do him like it's yesterday.
I mean Tony Gonzalez. How about Tony Gonzalez? The guy
was maybe for nine, maybe for nine running, But how
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many times did he creates separation by his routes? And
you would see him come out and it would be,
you know, methodical and whatever you want, and then all
of a sudden he's created three four yards separation by
the way he moves the nuances at the top of
the route using his body to create the space. Guys
like that understand space, understand leverage of players, and I
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think that's part of it too, is understanding that if
you're not as fast, you gotta be able to use
those small little details within a route that gets you open.
I think that's what Drake does really well. He does
a really good job of those option routes or when
he's running those circus routes, and you know he's trying
to lean on the guy to create it to as
he's going out, he knows exactly what to do to
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lean on the guy. I mean the touchdown he had
a few weeks back where he's, you know, in the
end zone, he stems a guy, he goes vertical and
then he stems him out to the left to create
space from him in the safety and then all of
a sudden, boom, he hooks it really quickly. Like those
small things give you an opportunity to win on routes,
even in small spaces, and I think that's part of
the game that I think a lot of guys are
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still learning maybe that are running these particular routes. And
then the other part is what Archi mentioned was the
execution part of it. We had a fourth down call
in the ballgame and we throw the fade out to
Cadero and regardless of you know, the throw, I felt
the decision and execution of it wasn't there. And that's
part of the small little things of winning in games
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that helps you sustain drives, helps you continue to go
and mentioned money, Maybe that's not the guy you want
to throw fourth and three fade out to. We love Hodge,
He's played great for us, but maybe that's not the
one you want to do. There's somebody else who can win,
probably on the out side, that gives you a chance
to convert that. And I just they were pointing a
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ball game where the execution, decision making a thought was
not where it should be and the ball should have
went somewhere else as opposed to where it went.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So dead on, So dead on. I mean, you got
a three by one set, You've got Kadaro Hodge matched
up on a six to two corner, okay, and I'm
gonna run a fade okay. One Cadara didn't run a
great route because he gets pinched to the sideline. But
I mean, glance over there. Sure you want to take
a look at shots. As quarterbacks were taught, there's a
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shot play built into almost everything. Unless it's quick game,
there's a shot played built in. Take a glance. If
he wins clean, boom, put it on him. But if
it's side by side, he's in his hip pocket. I'm
getting off of that and I'm coming back to the
So decision making that's part of the execution, whether you
run the route, and like you're talking about route rack,
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where you there's definitive stuff at the top, whether it's
you know, DeVante Adams or whether it's David Sills. I
get to the top of my route and I get
a little pressure break to create that separation versus man coverage.
I've got that. I've got that little idio secrecy that
I know from a from a quarterback standpoint, I know
what my guy's doing from body language, stand up boom,
I can get the ball out. I create that separation.
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The difference between what you guys did in O four
and what we're doing now is Number seven ran the
football out the backside of your run game. So now
all of a sudden, my run game goes like this
because seven Michael Vick is going out this way, Warwick
Dunn's going this way, And I'm looking at it from
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a defensi standpoint, I better get upfield to defend the bootleg.
I can't crash the run game. What we're seeing in
on tape, if you look at it, we're getting guys
crashing the backside of the run game. Now you're not
going to get that from Kirk, but Pennix has the
ability to do those kind of things, and if Michael
can be healthy, hopefully you know, knock on Wood. Hopefully
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Mike's ready to go this week. That's almost something that
you almost got to tell him, Hey, you need to
take that. And if we're gonna see a guy this
weekend in Drake May, you go look at the tape
of Drake May. He's doing those he's taking off, you know,
and he's not Michael Vick, but he's very athletic. You've
seen it. Michael's gonna have to build some of that
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into his game or he's aggressive that if you want
to rush me and drop off, I'm gonna go get
me eight, I'm gonna go get fifteen. I'm gonna go
run for a first down. Then you're gonna have to
come up and try to make sure you defend me.
Now of a sudden, that intermediate area comes a little
bit more open. I can throw those guys open because
they don't want to give me that much room to
get out. So there's some things that guys are gonna
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have to develop their games, take their games to another level.
Michael's one of them. There's another other guys that have
to take their game to another level. This is why,
to me, this is a myriad of things everybody wants
to put their finger on one thing. Oh, the offensive
coordinator is not getting his job done, so we need
to do something there. That's not what it is. He
he's culpable some point, you know, to a certain extent,
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and he knows that. That's why he's grinding over here
right now, trying to get stuff ready for this game.
But there's guys from an execution standpoint that have to
take their game to another level. We're kind of in
that kind of that fifth grade level of the offense
because we got a bunch of young dudes. They need
to grow up a little bit and take their game
to another level.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So one quick thing, reck, sorry for you go up.
I looked at you and laugh because you said something
to me that you mentioned four. I got here in
O six and I remember sitting in the meeting rooms
with Mike with Greg neat Rest in Peace, and there
were times where that same play that you would say,
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all right, here's go, we's running outside zone. But Mike,
if you see that backside in crashing, you pull it,
you just go. I mean it was literally said the
way you just said. That's why I laughed that Nat
would literally say just take it, just do something with it,
because guess what. We got to get that guy to
respect the backside. And there would literally be times where
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we will work on in practice, like okay, we're we're
going to the left, and you would peak as you
cut up the line of scrims, looking at that backside
in to see how sharp he is coming on that line.
And if he came eating flatter, it was take off him,
take it and run. It was go. And that was
maybe four or five six plays in the ballgame where
you just would take it and go because that backside in,
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but it gave you that respect that you needed. You say,
some guys just have to take that in. And that's
kind of what Nap would tell Michael, just hey, look
if they not gonna respect the backside, I don't care
what is you just pull it and go. So you
can you can go back on the table. You can
see literally he looked back and you see that guy
he just takes off and go. He picks up eight nine,
ten yards. Next time they go, Wison, guess what, that
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guy's slow playing it. He ain't crashing down anymore. Ye.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That cut back and that provides all that stuff. As
you guys know backside too, we're getting the ball deep
enough out of the pistol. One of the problem, one
of the reasons we're in the pistol to run that
stuff is to get in the ball deep enough where
he can stratch it, hit it, cut it back. Well,
I can't cut back if the backside guy's crashing, So
you're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The last thing I'll say about I know we're not
in two thousand and four, and there's a lot of
people listening and watching them, probably like I don't remember that.
All I remember is Michael Vick was really good and
it's really fast, and that's one hundred percent correct. However,
the last thing I'll say, and I think you guys
would both agree, is that that year and that time period,
we ran the inside and outside zone better than anybody
in the National Football League. And that was because that
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was all we worked on. We weren't a man team,
we weren't pulling guards all over the place. It was
inside outside zone, and if you didn't hit your landmarks,
Alex Gibbs was ripping you out of there, and you
weren't playing that right. But that's what it gets back
to is can you do something extremely well that the defense,
no matter how they play it, you're going to block
it better, right, And that's what the National Football League
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gets to is is your technique and your mechanics and
your fundamentals has to get so good that doesn't matter
what they do, you're still gonna be able to block
it up front. Sure, all right, let's move on because
we've got the paid this week. You guys talked a
little bit about this week already. Drake May is playing
at an extremely high level. Drake May's not only playing
the quarterback position well, but he's also running the football well.
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Second leading rusher on the team behind Ramandre Stevenson and
Stefan Diggs is kind of founding his way. Remember he's
kind of bounced around a little bit. Well, he seems
to find his way. And the receiver core Kashan Booty
as well, is having a good season. So Arch, why
don't you give our listeners and our viewers a little
bit of background of who Atlanta is going to see
in New England. Yes, Atlanta needs to worry about themselves.
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They have to go out and they got to do
their stuff better. But they've also got an opponent on
the other side of the field. So give people a
little bit of taste of what they're going to face
in the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, you're going to see a lot of two tight
in sets. They're going to run some tight in sets
that you think, Okay, they're throwing the ball and they're
having success, and Drake's throwing for over two thousand yards
fifteen TD's what four picks something like that, taking care
of the ball. But what they're doing their base is
they want to run. They would like to run the football.
You know, Trevion Henderson and the rookie out of Ohio
(26:01):
State is the guy that has added into what Rack
talked about where Ramandri Stevenson coming downhill. If you look
at those four guys, they've got four guys that have
over two hundred and fifty yards rushing. You mentioned Drake
is number two, So they want to run the football. Now,
some of Drake's stuff, most of Drake's stuff is the impromptu.
They're not designing run plays. Now. They'll have some bootlegs
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for him both front side and backside, and he has
run pass options, but most of his stuff is when
he drops the throw. If you rush four and you're
not really kind of having that mush rush scenario, where
you're trying to smash the pocket on him. He's gonna
get out and break you down. He throws the ball
to the backs. The two backs, those two guys, Henderson
(26:43):
and Stevenson have about forty catches between him. So he's
throwing the ball to those guys you mentioned. Booty. He's
the guy that's caught the touchdowns. Diggs is blended in
extremely well. He's got two tight ends. He can throw
the football too. Yeah. Yeah. Austin Hooper is one of
the other the tight ends. Henry. Henry has kind of
rediscovered his career a little bit, uh for for this
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this new England team. But they play with kind of
Vrabel's mentality, and it goes back to what you're talking about,
we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna impose ourselves on you,
and certainly on the defensive side and on the offensive
side they want to do that as well. And so
they kind of tried to get back to what they
used to be when he was playing a little bit.
And I give I give their staff a ton of
(27:27):
grat their tenth and tenth in total offense, their ninth
and total defense. Uh, they're doing a really good job,
scoring points and keeping people off the scoreboard. So all
the little things that you're hoping for from a from
a complimentary football standpoint is coming together from New England.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Shock. You talked a little bit about the stats you
mentioned scoring Eighth in the league is a scoring offense.
Fourth in the league is a scoring defense. So a
lot of times you can look at all these stats
and everything, and at the end of the day you
kind of need to look at how are they doing
in the scoring department. And the other thing that kind
of caught me, uh as interesting, shock is I looked
at how have the Patriots fared at home this year?
(28:02):
Obviously it's going to be a home game, Falcons traveling
to play on the road. Well, they're two and two
this year. They lost their first two games at home
in games against the Raiders and Steelers, but then they've
won their last two games, and not only have they
won the last two games, they've averaged thirty seven points
a game in both of those. So it's not like
they've been dominant at home throughout the course of the year.
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But the sample size that we have lately is a
Patriots team that's playing well and scoring a lot of points,
which poses some problems for Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Which is what you want from a team that's starting
to figure out who they are. And Raves, as we mentioned,
has started to put his imprint on both sides of
the ball. Obviously you knew coming in he will be
a defensive minded guy and that side of the ball
would play to that kind of standard. Last five ball
games twenty points unless that they've given up. So you're
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talking about not allowing people in the end zone and
they're scoring a lot of points. That puts a lot
of pressure on opposing offenses to play well. We just
talked about the game we're coming off where the Miami
Dolphins had the ball thirty eight minutes. That cannot happen
in this ballgame. Arch laid out the multitude of guys
that could hurt you on that side of the ball
from the running backs and which we've seen the last
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two weeks running back to be a big part of
the storyline coming into the ball game. We saw a
change last week. They tried to force feed him the football,
similar to what forty Niners David McCaffrey first played a
ball game. They tried to throw a wheel route over
there on j d. Bircher, So you know, coming in
they're gonna try to even though these are different style
of backs in Remandre and Treyon, there's still gonna be
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focal points of of the offense when they talk about
running the football. On the other side of it, Drake
May's been sacked twenty eight times though he's a guy
that you can get to those first two losses. Nine
sacks in those first two losses. Freaking Miles Garrett just
last week five sacks on his own. So maybe this
is an opportunity for you, say, all right, thirty eight
(29:56):
minutes is something you can't have, but here's something else
that you can. You can get after the quarterback and
get off the field. You talked about it. You gotta
get off the field. You can't be uh, you know,
on offense two of eleven on third down and then
it allowed other team to be fifty sixty percent on
third down. You gotta find a ways to get off
the field. When he gets those impromptu plays. We gotta
make sure you stick to him on the back end,
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but also you gotta you gotta, you gotta get to him.
I think that's a big part of his ball game
is getting to drag May and understanding that he's a
guy that have we've seen over the last couple weeks,
if a quarterback finds some confidence, he's gonna make some
plays on you. So this is a team that's scoring points,
not allowing points, but there also have some something that's
working against him. But even with the five sacks, they
were able to score over thirty points against the Rounds.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Arch I was listening to rahiems press conference yesterday and
it made me think about has he been in a
situation where his team has been struggling and has he
seen a turnaround? So I went and I did a
little bit of research and he didn't have to go
far twenty twenty three seasons. So before he ends up
coming to Atlanta, the Rams started three and six that year, okay,
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and if you guys remember, they finished seven and one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So if there's a guy that knows what it looks
like mid season when the team is struggling, Raheim's been
there before. Now how can he harness it now as
the head coach and not as just a coordinator. But
arch my question to you is we take it one
game at a time, okay, but what is it going
to take for Atlanta as a whole, to turn this
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thing around, to make it look somewhat like it did
in twenty twenty three when Raheem was with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I think first of all, you got to rack.
You got to identify what is it we're struggling with.
What is it we're doing incorrectly? How can we accentuate
what we're doing well. It's like going into the weight room.
You know, you don't want to neglect what you do
really well. But you know, as well as I do.
The strengthen conditioning staff here or wherever in the national
Football leg and our experiences, they're gonna work on your weaknesses. Okay,
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where are you weak? You're we're weak when you you
know you try to plant in your light legs. We're
gonna work. That's what you're gonna have to do. From
a game plan standpoint is Okay, they're continue. They always
self scout throughout the year. You guys know this. I
think people think that, Okay, only on the bye week
do they self scout. There's people in the building. They're
getting analytics all the time. They're evaluating, Okay, what are
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we doing and are we giving things away? Are there
some tells that are showing certain things, certain things that
they're allowing them to pin their ear back and come
after us, or they know right away that something's going
to happen, so the counteracts off of that. But to me,
that's you've got the personnel in the building. You've got
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the people from a no how standpoint coaching wise. Now
you have to meld that together, if you will, and
create uncertainty on the defensive side of the football. Wait
a minute, I saw that on tape and they didn't
do that. You know they did this. Well, yeah, we
made it look like that, and now we're doing this,
And that's the evolution of what happens throughout every year.
(32:55):
You know, when you play seventeen games, you can't get
caught in ruts. You got to continue to kind of
reinvent yourself a little bit. I think that's really kind
of all it is. I think you have the talent
to get that done.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Archie. It's the chess game. That is the National Football League.
Everybody is talented in this league. But how do you
create an edge to on Sunday be just a little
bit better than the opponent? All right, guys, let's finish
it up like this. I want each of us one,
two three to give one key, one key that Atlanta
has to do this weekend as they play on the
road one o'clock against the Patriots if they want to
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come away with the victory. Shock. I'm going to start
with you, what is one key that you are looking
forward to seeing Atlanta doing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You know I just talked about obviously getting drag May
on the ground. I won't use that one. I'll say
our secondary has to play well. You look at the numbers,
look at the how how they're distributing the football. Obviously,
Stefan Diggs has been big form, Keisha and Booty Hunter,
Henry mccollins, all those guys have been focal points for
drag May. You take away a guy's ability to be
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able to push the football down the field, You take
a way is ability to be able to have quick decisions,
and I think you have some success in this ball games.
I think the secondary has to play exceptionally well in
this ball game to give us a chance to get
after the quarterback one and I think we're gonna have
to line up and play some man coverage, getting the
guy's face and I give him easy access throws. Gonna
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have to stand up and be a little bit different
this week and change kind of the the mo of
times of what you want and maybe you come out
I feel a little bit more. That means you got to
lock up on the back end. So I think this
is a big ball game for the secondary because of
how much success Drake has had over the last few
ball games throwing the football. Obviously, they're gonna run football,
but this is also a guy who wants to push
the ball down. From remember it's times in North Carolina
(34:40):
to now, he still wants to throw the football. If
we can slow that that that receiver Cord down or
the pass catchers, we got a good chance of playing
I think good football. Little defenside of the ball, all.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, secondary making it challenging the passing game, all right,
Arch What do you think one key for you?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I want to do a little value shopping, A
little value shopping. I want I want like this. I
want value in the plays that I run that are
going to create opportunities maybe for me later on in
the game. So no, no wasted series, no wasted plays.
I think we do. We We've had too much of
(35:16):
that the last couple of weeks. So I want to
be able to get something out of the first down play,
something out of the second down play. Keep myself in
manageable situations where I can convert, but I want to
do it in a in a way where the defense
is still trying to figure out what I'm doing. You
know they're going to know we want to run the football.
So I want value out of every drive. Now we
(35:39):
may not score on every drive, but you get two
first downs, three first downs. You look over, the clock
is a little bit more diminished, the defense isn't on
the field as much, and we get a little bit
more confidence, and hey, we can do that. We got
a little something here. We set this up so that's
available later on value, a little bit value on drives
in the games.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
One thing for you to give your right One thing
we have to do better in this ball game. Two,
we can't have the special team buildings. We had three
of them in his last ball game. Where you're starting
drives inside your ten yard line, of starting drives inside
of twenty yard age, it's hard to go with thal
here go down eight, nine, ten to twelve play drives
without something bad happening, So we can't have those pillars
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and special teams that already sets you behind when you're
trying to go get points.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Love it, love it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You get the third phase of the game involved. And
I think you're exactly right. Just too many penalties last
week backing you up and you're starting inside your fifteen
your ten yard line. Now you're not looking up the
amount of yards you got to cover just to get
into the scoring territory. We play the game on our
show a lot of times about three words. I'm just
gonna give y'all two today kind of just piggybacks on you,
just kind of piggybacks on your thought with bringing some
(36:46):
value is first downs. That's it. And we always talk
about third down conversions and everything like, I'm not even
worried about that. I want first downs because guess what
if we get a first down on first down? With that,
we get a first down on second down.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Great?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right, But this all kind of goes together with what
you were talking about. Defense was being it was on
the field too much last week against Miami. How do
you prevent that? Just get first downs? And I don't
care how they come. I don't care if you take
one because of penalty. It's fine. First downs is the
key in this game. When we look up, we need
to see Atlanta have more first downs than the Patriots
(37:27):
do because they're staying on the field. And then hopefully
they can turn the tides in the red zone because
Atlanta is not good in the red zone and when
it comes to touchdown percentages. But you get first downs,
you're in territory to score. You got to put points
on the board. You're going to have to score against
the Patriots. I don't know if you guys see this
as a fourteen to nine game, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Know you got it. This is an offensive league. We've
been really fortunate how well the defense is played here.
Early on. I think Jeff Ulbrich's done an outstanding job
of melding the new guys that he's got and they're
playing at a good level. And I know that you
see thirty four points on the board. Again, the offense
contributed to that. So but at some point, as Ractus said,
(38:06):
this is an offense. This is it's built to be
an offensive league. You got to go make some plays
on the offensive side of the football. First downs, so racket,
so the four first downs we had in the first
half this last week is not enough for you. It's
like that's like Rack saying, Okay, I got mac and cheese.
Where's the meat?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Where are my greens? I didn't get any greens? Wait,
what's the deal I got you? Know, so you want
a full meal?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You want a full meal?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I got you.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
It's amazingly you can't walk into this thing sleepily.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right right right, there's no there's no we get no melowtony,
none of that stuff. You know. You can take your
pill to go over to over over to Germany if
you want to on the flight over none of that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
We asked for three, but we're going to give you four. Okay.
Secondary's got to play well. Arch is looking for value
on offense, shock through back in special teams, got to
play much more discipline. It's all good because I added
it to the list, cuz, and then I'm talking about
first downs in this game. So there's your four keys.
We thought it was going to be three, but we
(39:07):
gave you four. Anyway, Okay, week, let's score it up.
Let's take a look next week, and did those four
things happened for Atlanta? And if they did did they win,
did they lose, or if it didn't happen, maybe that's
the reason.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Let's go. Let's go ar.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So you bring us back a dumb it's over you.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
One o'clock Sunday afternoon, Falcons at Patriots looking to get
back on trap. That's gonna rack it. That's gonna wrap
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Speaker 2 (39:49):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
He got that.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
He's into it. I'm telling me he is like lit because.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
To start threat. Yeah, I can get chills a little
bit thinking about what these two guys can do.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The Falcon's audible, presented by AT and T is back.
Your three are here. That's DJ Shock. He's always throwing
it up no matter what the circumstances are. That's Dave Archer.
I'm Derek Brackley here. We're gonna break down as best
we can of thirty four to ten Falcons lost to
the Miami Dolphins, and then we'll go ahead and turn
the page and we'll talk about New England Patriots because
(01:00):
that's the next on the dock in the only game
that matters is the next game. However, but when you're
in our business. You got to go back and you
got to look, you got to talk to and I'm
sure a lot of you that are listening and watching
want to hear us tell you why or how, why
or how did that game happen?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Arch.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I'm going to start with you. If you go back
before the season started and you started looking at the calendar,
and this is where you can fall into a trap,
right you can fall into a trap in the National
Football You can see three games that say Miami, New England, Indianapolis,
and you're like, gosh, that's a favorable stretch right there.
(01:39):
And then you actually start playing football game and you
actually played a game, and you get a one in
six Dolphins team that's playing upset, playing inspired, playing motivated
because they got absolutely called out the previous week, they
got embarrassed the previous week, the previous two weeks, if
you will. And when you look up and you got
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two teams in the Patriots Division leader, Colt's Division leader,
one of the best teams in the league, leading the
National Football League and scoring you know what, that thing
that you circled that looked like pretty manageable games not
so much anymore much. But let's talk about this Dolphins
game arch because it was a situation where Atlanta, coming
off a poor performance against San Francisco, thinking this has
(02:21):
got to be a bounce back game. You're facing a
team that's reeling, You're facing a team and a quarterback
that's given the football away, okay, and so you're thinking,
we're licking our chops defensive side, right, We're licking our
chops because we're gonna have a chance for takeaways. We're
licking our chops offensively because there were not a good
run defense statistically, and then everything but that happened, no takeaways,
(02:45):
two of throws for four touchdowns, no picks, and they
absolutely shut down the run game. How in the world
did it just completely three sixty round?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
No, it's the National Football League, right, you're not ready
to play, and not saying that the team wasn't and
the Falcons were ready to play. I think I think
you give more accolades and and maybe shine the light
a little bit more on Miami as opposed to what
Atlanta didn't do. But Atlanta contributed to that performance by
Tua and and by the Dolphin defense. But I think
that when you when you look at and you try
(03:15):
to kind of dig down deep as to why this
game went a certain way. It starts great, I mean,
you go three and out on defense, got a really
cool design. Defensively, they run motion across, nobody goes with
him as you're thinking zone. If you're Tua right shock,
you're thinking zone. Then all a sudden boom, here come
two guys off the edge. They get the quarterback on
the ground. Couldn't have started any better with a sack.
(03:36):
D Afford comes in and gets the sack, with Ellis
coming clean as well. So you start perfectly. You get
the football and dysfunction begins. You run it twice for nothing,
and then they run a they run a three man
stunt to the left side. Here comes a guy clean
and Kirk's face. He barely gets it out to pits.
And so you start sleepily, if that's such a word,
(03:58):
sleepily offensively, though sleepily offensively. And then they get the
football and would they go on a nineteen play drive
or something like that to move move it down the field.
So when you dig through the minutia, for me, guys,
is it's okay, why did the defense get run on?
And all that kind you can talk about, Okay, what
they're doing schematically, all this kind of stuff, extra offensive
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line in the game, whatever you want to talk about.
You're on the field too much defensively, Okay, you're on
the field for thirty eight minutes. Okay, at some point
I'm going to figure out how to attack you. On
the conversely, on the other side, you were four for
fifteen and third in conversion situations. That counts third down
and fourth down. That contributes to what happened to your defense.
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You can say, well, what's the best way to help
our defense stop the run. Don't have them on the
field for thirty eight minutes. And so the offense was
dysfunctional in conversion situations. And it wasn't third and long, guys,
it was fourth and three, third and five, and you
didn't you didn't convert. So what leads to that, It
leads to there's a number of things. You can talk
(05:04):
about design of offense, and you can talk about all
the things, but ultimately it's about executing the plays, executing
your job at the highest possible level. And we didn't
play well up front. We didn't play well at the
quarterback position, and I didn't think we overly were decisive
from a wide receiver standpoint. Other than that, we were
pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
On those three things that you said, though were awfully.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Large. Shock.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm going to repeat this because different audience. But on
the pregame show, Taylor was talking to me, this was
post San Francisco about thinking back to my career and
how do you find consistency? Okay? And so I went
back and I'm going, I'm gonna kind of quiz you
guys here because this is two thousand and four season, okay,
And that season we had two separate four game winning streaks.
(05:54):
I said, well, how do you get consistent? Is you
got to find winning streaks, right. You got to find
a way to put yourself in position to where you're
looking at postseason. That only happens by winning games. And
when you're struggling, you gotta find ways to stack one
after another after another. But I said, yeah, that's all elementary.
It's like Rack, I understand, you gotta win games. You
gotta get on a winning streak. That's fine, and Andy,
(06:16):
how do you do it? Okay? And I said, that
year we did what we did best better than anybody else,
and we ran the football. Okay, both four game streaks
we averaged like I want to say it was one
hundred and eighty or one hundred and seventy rushing yards
a game, and then it was like one hundred and
eighty five rushing yards a game. Like we absolutely dominated
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in the ground game. Now fast forward to twenty twenty five, Fellas,
what does Atlanta do really well? Like they're a running
football team, Like their offensive line has been together for
a long time. They got one of the most dynamic
running backs in the National Football League, and then they
have the bowling ball of razor blades behind it. Right
as I say that, correct, you nailed it, center road shock.
(07:01):
What we do best has disappeared, and that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It is a problem. And when you hang your hat
on that particular part of the game and it doesn't
work and you have to adjust, that's when that's when
things start to spiral out of control for you and
things don't really go as playing. And I think the
last couple of weeks, when we haven't been able to
run the football or we haven't dominated the line of scrimmage,
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and then we have to turn to somebody else and
it's not really what our forte is. Then there's when
things start to come up and Artie mentioned it didn't
think that you know on the outside that you know,
you played relatively well. When I watch the game, I
go back and look at it, and then I think
about it more. You think about how hard it was
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for completions, how tough it was. Everything it felt like
was contested. Everything felt like if a guy caught the wall,
there was a guy there, or it was a Really
it was just hard to get yards, it felt like.
And are actual had a great job of talking about
some of the things that obviously that has struggled for
us offensively with when it comes to the run game,
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and you know, having guys been able to you know,
change the line of scrimmage on I mean a prime
example is, you know, on the three four yard line
and we down to get a safety because there's pushback
in the backfield first and then you got to run
through by the backer. That's something that obviously they seen
on tape from last week. Run blitzes, run calls, and
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certain things tell defensive guys, hey, this is what's coming.
And I think ultimately it just comes down to a mindset,
to be honest, and for years we've always talked about
it's third and one fourth and one, and they know
you're gonna run the football. Oh well, okay, they know it,
stop it. And I think the mindset has to get
back to just being the more physical. Ultimately comes down
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to that guy in front of you. You moving that
guy in front of you or not. And ultimately, last
I think a couple last couple of weeks, we haven't
done that, and that's been probably the biggest issue. And
then when we can't run the football, it's say, okay,
let's try to use play action. Let's try to use
stuff that how you go use play action when you're
not running football with respecting it. So, but that's part
of your that's part of your game plan, that's part
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of who you are in offense, and it's how you
set certain things up. So it's tough to be able
to to to have things go with other things if
the first part of it is not working with which
you run the football.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Guys, there is an element to this of players not playing. Okay,
and I'm gonna just I'm not gonna talk just about Atlanta.
I want to give you some examples from around the league. Okay,
Baltimore Ravens have been ravaged on defense, and their quarterback
has not played the last two games. Ravens struggling. Okay,
then you flip over to the NFC. Just think about this, Giants,
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what have they done? Made a quarterback change? Okay, Vikings
quarterback's been injured. They had to They've had to pivot.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
By the way, these two, both of these teams are
at the bottom of their division. Saints quarterback issues, a
lot of other things going on, bottom of the division,
all right, Cardinals Kyler Murray, he got hurt. They've had
to go to the backup quarterback. They're two and five.
Even the forty nine ers at their five and three,
their starting quarterback has been hurt. However, Mac Jones comes
in and he's been playing really well. The moral of
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the story, fellas is when your starter in the NFL
is not playing, that is a bad thing. Okay, there's
not too many backups in the National Football League that
come out and they actually take the league by storm.
Then when you compound, there's no Jaylen Walker, there's no
Zach Harrison, obviously no Drake London in the game. We
see what type of difference maker he is. Arch how
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much can you attribute to Diablo those guys that have
been mainstays at their positions not in the lineup.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Well, if you're overly dependent on the guys that are out,
which I think applies to what who Shock just mentioned
Divine Diablo. You felt you got him in free agency
and you thought, Okay, he'll blend nicely into the defense.
He hasn't just blended nicely in the defense. He might
be the best player on defense based on what we
try to do because of his versatility. We saw that
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this weekend because they tried to expose his backup in coverage,
which is what Divine Diablo did in college. He was
a safety and they've converted into a linebacker. So I
hear what you're saying about guys being out, And certainly
you contribute some of the drop off from an offensive
standpoint or a defensive standpoint to guys not being on
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the field. But everybody's dealing with that. You just mentioned
a bunch of teams, and some of them are struggling,
some of them are not. We played the forty nine
ers on a Sunday night and they had both their
inside linebackers are gone. You'd have thought we were playing
the eighty five Bears. I mean they were coming downhill
stop in the run game, So I think that that
can be overblown a little bit from a missing And
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Pennix has only been out one game, so what happened
prior to that? He was in the game in Carolina,
He was in the game in San Francisco, So I
think that So now you have to dive deeper into it.
And when I look at people being able to gang
up on the run, why are they able to stop
the run game? What's going on with our run game?
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Are we getting away from it too quickly? Or are
there some tells that are giving teams now that they
have tape on how to defend Bajan Robinson and Tyler Aljier.
I'm leaning towards the ladder in that situation. So now,
Zach Robinson, I'm sure he's over in the library right
now with you know, or in the in the laboratory
right now with with TJ. Yeats and Coach Williams and
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all those guys, Coach Petrie trying to figure out how
do we show them what we've been doing and have
counters off of it. And some of that has to
do with what shock'say in if they're going to come
downhill and stop the run. We have to touch them
in the passing game, and that means play action. I
got to show run and I got to show what
I normally show with Baijon, and it's got to mesh
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with our our play action game. If you can do that,
there's gonna be explosives all over the field. Also, we
don't have I don't want to be brutally honest here,
but we don't have man beater guys on the perimeter.
You've got one guy if Drake's out, because Drake can
do it from a basketball perspective. He also runs better
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than people think he does. But you've got one man
beater on the perimeter as long as Bijan's in the backfield.
That's Darnell Mooney. So I've got to create opportunities if
we're gonna see man coverage, and get ready, Vrabel's gonna
play man coverage because they're gonna do the same thing
they've seen last coup. And that's what they do anyway,
is they try to crowd the line of scrimmage and
they play man. They trust their secondary and what they've
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seen on tape is Atlanta can't beat you if we
play man coverage, so I've got to get guys running
away from people so I can make some throws on
the move to guys run away. And Mooney, to me,
is a guy that we're running him on deep post routes.
In all honesty, guys, if I was going to pick
a guy for a fifty to fifty guy that's going
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to be tight covered, that's not the guy I'm picking.
But if I got Mooney run and shallow crossing route
and a guy's trying to trail him, I like that.
I'm going to get him the football. He's explosive. But
these are just these things that I'm seeing. Nobody's telling
me this or anything like that, And there are things
you can you can you can create and things you
can do. So as much as I want to run
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the football, I think you got to do some of
the house.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
I want both of you guys to chime in on
this because you make a great point as far as
how do you run away from the defense and create
some explosive plays, And you were kind of alluding to
maybe a little bit of speed. But I want to
counter back, and I want to say, what about guys
like Puka Nakua, Cooper cup Lad mcconki. I wouldn't necessarily
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say those guys are run away from the defense. So
how do those guys get so much success when you
maybe have more possession route runners and not necessarily create
separation from coverage.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, you're creating it by the route you're running. Shock.
You know, you run a shallow drag route. You know,
if I get the guy in a trail position and
I stare step him, boom, all of a sudden, I've
got to create I've got separation. And by the way,
Nikua can run pretty well, and so can maconkey. But
but all these guys can run to a certain extent,
create them an opportunity to beat man coverage. I think
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there's too many to me. If I'm a quarter and
I'm looking at it from our perspective, shock, if I
see a team that's going to play man coverage, I
want the option for my guys to read it out.
And if it's man boom, I'm running away and running away.
I don't mean running away because of his speed. I'm
talking about running away because of the way the route,
what the route is. I don't want guys running a
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stop route I'm helping the guy defend her out, you know.
But I've got to have those readout plays, and we
have those in the system where they're reading coverage. If
it's man boom, I'm running away. If it's zone, I'm
getting in a hole and I'm sitting down. And those
of the kind of things that I think we're a
little bit distunction on. Not that we don't have it
in the system. I think Zach's calling it. We've got
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to execute it better. That's why I get back to
the execution in Shock.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
He makes a great point because and I can say
from my tight end days and practice and everything that
a lot of route running and getting open is using
little things to your advantage. Like I think you could
look at a guy like DeVante Adams now later in
his career, DeAndre Hopkins, right, One of these guys do
really well. Is they know how to use their body,
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They know how to set defenders up, and they know
how to create separation because maybe they're not as quick
and fast as they used to be, but they're so
savvy shock that the nuances of route running, they understand
all that, and they understand where the defense is trying
to attack and then how do I counter that to
get myself even more open, to show the quarterback that
he can throw me the football.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Guy that instantly ran into my brain as you talked
about that. It was a guy that I saw. Aren't
you called his games rack? You do him like it's yesterday.
I mean Tony Gonzalez. How about Tony Gonzalez? The guy
was maybe for nine, maybe for nine running, But how
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many times did he creates separation by his routes? And
you would see him come out and it would be,
you know, methodical and whatever you want, and then all
of a sudden he's created three four yards separation by
the way he moves the nuances at the top of
the route using his body to create the space. Guys
like that understand space, understand leverage of players, and I
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think that's part of it too, is understanding that if
you're not as fast, you gotta be able to use
those small little details within a route that gets you open.
I think that's what Drake does really well. He does
a really good job of those option routes or when
he's running those circus routes, and you know he's trying
to lean on the guy to create it to as
he's going out, he knows exactly what to do to
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lean on the guy. I mean the touchdown he had
a few weeks back where he's, you know, in the
end zone, he stems a guy, he goes vertical and
then he stems him out to the left to create
space from him in the safety and then all of
a sudden, boom, he hooks it really quickly. Like those
small things give you an opportunity to win on routes,
even in small spaces, and I think that's part of
the game that I think a lot of guys are
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still learning maybe that are running these particular routes. And
then the other part is what Archi mentioned was the
execution part of it. We had a fourth down call
in the ballgame and we throw the fade out to
Cadero and regardless of you know, the throw, I felt
the decision and execution of it wasn't there. And that's
part of the small little things of winning in games
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that helps you sustain drives, helps you continue to go
and mentioned money, Maybe that's not the guy you want
to throw fourth and three fade out to. We love Hodge,
He's played great for us, but maybe that's not the
one you want to do. There's somebody else who can win,
probably on the out side, that gives you a chance
to convert that. And I just they were pointing a
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ball game where the execution, decision making a thought was
not where it should be and the ball should have
went somewhere else as opposed to where it went.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
So dead on, So dead on. I mean, you got
a three by one set, You've got Kadaro Hodge matched
up on a six to two corner, okay, and I'm
gonna run a fade okay. One Cadara didn't run a
great route because he gets pinched to the sideline. But
I mean, glance over there. Sure you want to take
a look at shots. As quarterbacks were taught, there's a
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shot play built into almost everything. Unless it's quick game,
there's a shot played built in. Take a glance. If
he wins clean, boom, put it on him. But if
it's side by side, he's in his hip pocket. I'm
getting off of that and I'm coming back to the
So decision making that's part of the execution, whether you
run the route, and like you're talking about route rack,
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where you there's definitive stuff at the top, whether it's
you know, DeVante Adams or whether it's David Sills. I
get to the top of my route and I get
a little pressure break to create that separation versus man coverage.
I've got that. I've got that little idio secrecy that
I know from a from a quarterback standpoint, I know
what my guy's doing from body language, stand up boom,
I can get the ball out. I create that separation.
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The difference between what you guys did in O four
and what we're doing now is Number seven ran the
football out the backside of your run game. So now
all of a sudden, my run game goes like this
because seven Michael Vick is going out this way, Warwick
Dunn's going this way, And I'm looking at it from
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a defensi standpoint, I better get upfield to defend the bootleg.
I can't crash the run game. What we're seeing in
on tape, if you look at it, we're getting guys
crashing the backside of the run game. Now you're not
going to get that from Kirk, but Pennix has the
ability to do those kind of things, and if Michael
can be healthy, hopefully you know, knock on Wood. Hopefully
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Mike's ready to go this week. That's almost something that
you almost got to tell him, Hey, you need to
take that. And if we're gonna see a guy this
weekend in Drake May, you go look at the tape
of Drake May. He's doing those he's taking off, you know,
and he's not Michael Vick, but he's very athletic. You've
seen it. Michael's gonna have to build some of that
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into his game or he's aggressive that if you want
to rush me and drop off, I'm gonna go get
me eight, I'm gonna go get fifteen. I'm gonna go
run for a first down. Then you're gonna have to
come up and try to make sure you defend me.
Now of a sudden, that intermediate area comes a little
bit more open. I can throw those guys open because
they don't want to give me that much room to
get out. So there's some things that guys are gonna
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have to develop their games, take their games to another level.
Michael's one of them. There's another other guys that have
to take their game to another level. This is why,
to me, this is a myriad of things everybody wants
to put their finger on one thing. Oh, the offensive
coordinator is not getting his job done, so we need
to do something there. That's not what it is. He
he's culpable some point, you know, to a certain extent,
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and he knows that. That's why he's grinding over here
right now, trying to get stuff ready for this game.
But there's guys from an execution standpoint that have to
take their game to another level. We're kind of in
that kind of that fifth grade level of the offense
because we got a bunch of young dudes. They need
to grow up a little bit and take their game
to another level.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
So one quick thing, reck, sorry for you go up.
I looked at you and laugh because you said something
to me that you mentioned four. I got here in
O six and I remember sitting in the meeting rooms
with Mike with Greg neat Rest in Peace, and there
were times where that same play that you would say,
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all right, here's go, we's running outside zone. But Mike,
if you see that backside in crashing, you pull it,
you just go. I mean it was literally said the
way you just said. That's why I laughed that Nat
would literally say just take it, just do something with it,
because guess what. We got to get that guy to
respect the backside. And there would literally be times where
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we will work on in practice, like okay, we're we're
going to the left, and you would peak as you
cut up the line of scrims, looking at that backside
in to see how sharp he is coming on that line.
And if he came eating flatter, it was take off him,
take it and run. It was go. And that was
maybe four or five six plays in the ballgame where
you just would take it and go because that backside in,
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but it gave you that respect that you needed. You say,
some guys just have to take that in. And that's
kind of what Nap would tell Michael, just hey, look
if they not gonna respect the backside, I don't care
what is you just pull it and go. So you
can you can go back on the table. You can
see literally he looked back and you see that guy
he just takes off and go. He picks up eight nine,
ten yards. Next time they go, Wison, guess what, that
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guy's slow playing it. He ain't crashing down anymore. Ye.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That cut back and that provides all that stuff. As
you guys know backside too, we're getting the ball deep
enough out of the pistol. One of the problem, one
of the reasons we're in the pistol to run that
stuff is to get in the ball deep enough where
he can stratch it, hit it, cut it back. Well,
I can't cut back if the backside guy's crashing, So
you're exactly right.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
The last thing I'll say about I know we're not
in two thousand and four, and there's a lot of
people listening and watching them, probably like I don't remember that.
All I remember is Michael Vick was really good and
it's really fast, and that's one hundred percent correct. However,
the last thing I'll say, and I think you guys
would both agree, is that that year and that time period,
we ran the inside and outside zone better than anybody
in the National Football League. And that was because that
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was all we worked on. We weren't a man team,
we weren't pulling guards all over the place. It was
inside outside zone, and if you didn't hit your landmarks,
Alex Gibbs was ripping you out of there, and you
weren't playing that right. But that's what it gets back
to is can you do something extremely well that the defense,
no matter how they play it, you're going to block
it better, right, And that's what the National Football League
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gets to is is your technique and your mechanics and
your fundamentals has to get so good that doesn't matter
what they do, you're still gonna be able to block
it up front. Sure, all right, let's move on because
we've got the paid this week. You guys talked a
little bit about this week already. Drake May is playing
at an extremely high level. Drake May's not only playing
the quarterback position well, but he's also running the football well.
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Second leading rusher on the team behind Ramandre Stevenson and
Stefan Diggs is kind of founding his way. Remember he's
kind of bounced around a little bit. Well, he seems
to find his way. And the receiver core Kashan Booty
as well, is having a good season. So Arch, why
don't you give our listeners and our viewers a little
bit of background of who Atlanta is going to see
in New England. Yes, Atlanta needs to worry about themselves.
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They have to go out and they got to do
their stuff better. But they've also got an opponent on
the other side of the field. So give people a
little bit of taste of what they're going to face
in the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Well, you're going to see a lot of two tight
in sets. They're going to run some tight in sets
that you think, Okay, they're throwing the ball and they're
having success, and Drake's throwing for over two thousand yards
fifteen TD's what four picks something like that, taking care
of the ball. But what they're doing their base is
they want to run. They would like to run the football.
You know, Trevion Henderson and the rookie out of Ohio
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State is the guy that has added into what Rack
talked about where Ramandri Stevenson coming downhill. If you look
at those four guys, they've got four guys that have
over two hundred and fifty yards rushing. You mentioned Drake
is number two, So they want to run the football. Now,
some of Drake's stuff, most of Drake's stuff is the impromptu.
They're not designing run plays. Now. They'll have some bootlegs
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for him both front side and backside, and he has
run pass options, but most of his stuff is when
he drops the throw. If you rush four and you're
not really kind of having that mush rush scenario, where
you're trying to smash the pocket on him. He's gonna
get out and break you down. He throws the ball
to the backs. The two backs, those two guys, Henderson
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and Stevenson have about forty catches between him. So he's
throwing the ball to those guys you mentioned. Booty. He's
the guy that's caught the touchdowns. Diggs is blended in
extremely well. He's got two tight ends. He can throw
the football too. Yeah. Yeah. Austin Hooper is one of
the other the tight ends. Henry. Henry has kind of
rediscovered his career a little bit, uh for for this
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this new England team. But they play with kind of
Vrabel's mentality, and it goes back to what you're talking about,
we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna impose ourselves on you,
and certainly on the defensive side and on the offensive
side they want to do that as well. And so
they kind of tried to get back to what they
used to be when he was playing a little bit.
And I give I give their staff a ton of
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grat their tenth and tenth in total offense, their ninth
and total defense. Uh, they're doing a really good job,
scoring points and keeping people off the scoreboard. So all
the little things that you're hoping for from a from
a complimentary football standpoint is coming together from New England.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Shock. You talked a little bit about the stats you
mentioned scoring Eighth in the league is a scoring offense.
Fourth in the league is a scoring defense. So a
lot of times you can look at all these stats
and everything, and at the end of the day you
kind of need to look at how are they doing
in the scoring department. And the other thing that kind
of caught me, uh as interesting, shock is I looked
at how have the Patriots fared at home this year?
(28:02):
Obviously it's going to be a home game, Falcons traveling
to play on the road. Well, they're two and two
this year. They lost their first two games at home
in games against the Raiders and Steelers, but then they've
won their last two games, and not only have they
won the last two games, they've averaged thirty seven points
a game in both of those. So it's not like
they've been dominant at home throughout the course of the year.
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But the sample size that we have lately is a
Patriots team that's playing well and scoring a lot of points,
which poses some problems for Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Which is what you want from a team that's starting
to figure out who they are. And Raves, as we mentioned,
has started to put his imprint on both sides of
the ball. Obviously you knew coming in he will be
a defensive minded guy and that side of the ball
would play to that kind of standard. Last five ball
games twenty points unless that they've given up. So you're
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talking about not allowing people in the end zone and
they're scoring a lot of points. That puts a lot
of pressure on opposing offenses to play well. We just
talked about the game we're coming off where the Miami
Dolphins had the ball thirty eight minutes. That cannot happen
in this ballgame. Arch laid out the multitude of guys
that could hurt you on that side of the ball
from the running backs and which we've seen the last
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two weeks running back to be a big part of
the storyline coming into the ball game. We saw a
change last week. They tried to force feed him the football,
similar to what forty Niners David McCaffrey first played a
ball game. They tried to throw a wheel route over
there on j d. Bircher, So you know, coming in
they're gonna try to even though these are different style
of backs in Remandre and Treyon, there's still gonna be
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focal points of of the offense when they talk about
running the football. On the other side of it, Drake
May's been sacked twenty eight times though he's a guy
that you can get to those first two losses. Nine
sacks in those first two losses. Freaking Miles Garrett just
last week five sacks on his own. So maybe this
is an opportunity for you, say, all right, thirty eight
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minutes is something you can't have, but here's something else
that you can. You can get after the quarterback and
get off the field. You talked about it. You gotta
get off the field. You can't be uh, you know,
on offense two of eleven on third down and then
it allowed other team to be fifty sixty percent on
third down. You gotta find a ways to get off
the field. When he gets those impromptu plays. We gotta
make sure you stick to him on the back end,
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but also you gotta you gotta, you gotta get to him.
I think that's a big part of his ball game
is getting to drag May and understanding that he's a
guy that have we've seen over the last couple weeks,
if a quarterback finds some confidence, he's gonna make some
plays on you. So this is a team that's scoring points,
not allowing points, but there also have some something that's
working against him. But even with the five sacks, they
were able to score over thirty points against the Rounds.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Arch I was listening to rahiems press conference yesterday and
it made me think about has he been in a
situation where his team has been struggling and has he
seen a turnaround? So I went and I did a
little bit of research and he didn't have to go
far twenty twenty three seasons. So before he ends up
coming to Atlanta, the Rams started three and six that year, okay,
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and if you guys remember, they finished seven and one.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So if there's a guy that knows what it looks
like mid season when the team is struggling, Raheim's been
there before. Now how can he harness it now as
the head coach and not as just a coordinator. But
arch my question to you is we take it one
game at a time, okay, but what is it going
to take for Atlanta as a whole, to turn this
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thing around, to make it look somewhat like it did
in twenty twenty three when Raheem was with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, I think first of all, you got to rack.
You got to identify what is it we're struggling with.
What is it we're doing incorrectly? How can we accentuate
what we're doing well. It's like going into the weight room.
You know, you don't want to neglect what you do
really well. But you know, as well as I do.
The strengthen conditioning staff here or wherever in the national
Football leg and our experiences, they're gonna work on your weaknesses. Okay,
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where are you weak? You're we're weak when you you
know you try to plant in your light legs. We're
gonna work. That's what you're gonna have to do. From
a game plan standpoint is Okay, they're continue. They always
self scout throughout the year. You guys know this. I
think people think that, Okay, only on the bye week
do they self scout. There's people in the building. They're
getting analytics all the time. They're evaluating, Okay, what are
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we doing and are we giving things away? Are there
some tells that are showing certain things, certain things that
they're allowing them to pin their ear back and come
after us, or they know right away that something's going
to happen, so the counteracts off of that. But to me,
that's you've got the personnel in the building. You've got
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the people from a no how standpoint coaching wise. Now
you have to meld that together, if you will, and
create uncertainty on the defensive side of the football. Wait
a minute, I saw that on tape and they didn't
do that. You know they did this. Well, yeah, we
made it look like that, and now we're doing this,
And that's the evolution of what happens throughout every year.
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You know, when you play seventeen games, you can't get
caught in ruts. You got to continue to kind of
reinvent yourself a little bit. I think that's really kind
of all it is. I think you have the talent
to get that done.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Archie. It's the chess game. That is the National Football League.
Everybody is talented in this league. But how do you
create an edge to on Sunday be just a little
bit better than the opponent? All right, guys, let's finish
it up like this. I want each of us one,
two three to give one key, one key that Atlanta
has to do this weekend as they play on the
road one o'clock against the Patriots if they want to
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come away with the victory. Shock. I'm going to start
with you, what is one key that you are looking
forward to seeing Atlanta doing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
You know I just talked about obviously getting drag May
on the ground. I won't use that one. I'll say
our secondary has to play well. You look at the numbers,
look at the how how they're distributing the football. Obviously,
Stefan Diggs has been big form, Keisha and Booty Hunter,
Henry mccollins, all those guys have been focal points for
drag May. You take away a guy's ability to be
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able to push the football down the field, You take
a way is ability to be able to have quick decisions,
and I think you have some success in this ball games.
I think the secondary has to play exceptionally well in
this ball game to give us a chance to get
after the quarterback one and I think we're gonna have
to line up and play some man coverage, getting the
guy's face and I give him easy access throws. Gonna
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have to stand up and be a little bit different
this week and change kind of the the mo of
times of what you want and maybe you come out
I feel a little bit more. That means you got to
lock up on the back end. So I think this
is a big ball game for the secondary because of
how much success Drake has had over the last few
ball games throwing the football. Obviously, they're gonna run football,
but this is also a guy who wants to push
the ball down. From remember it's times in North Carolina
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to now, he still wants to throw the football. If
we can slow that that that receiver Cord down or
the pass catchers, we got a good chance of playing
I think good football. Little defenside of the ball, all.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Right, secondary making it challenging the passing game, all right,
Arch What do you think one key for you?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I want to do a little value shopping, A
little value shopping. I want I want like this. I
want value in the plays that I run that are
going to create opportunities maybe for me later on in
the game. So no, no wasted series, no wasted plays.
I think we do. We We've had too much of
(35:16):
that the last couple of weeks. So I want to
be able to get something out of the first down play,
something out of the second down play. Keep myself in
manageable situations where I can convert, but I want to
do it in a in a way where the defense
is still trying to figure out what I'm doing. You
know they're going to know we want to run the football.
So I want value out of every drive. Now we
(35:39):
may not score on every drive, but you get two
first downs, three first downs. You look over, the clock
is a little bit more diminished, the defense isn't on
the field as much, and we get a little bit
more confidence, and hey, we can do that. We got
a little something here. We set this up so that's
available later on value, a little bit value on drives
in the games.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
One thing for you to give your right One thing
we have to do better in this ball game. Two,
we can't have the special team buildings. We had three
of them in his last ball game. Where you're starting
drives inside your ten yard line, of starting drives inside
of twenty yard age, it's hard to go with thal
here go down eight, nine, ten to twelve play drives
without something bad happening, So we can't have those pillars
(36:19):
and special teams that already sets you behind when you're
trying to go get points.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Love it, love it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You get the third phase of the game involved. And
I think you're exactly right. Just too many penalties last
week backing you up and you're starting inside your fifteen
your ten yard line. Now you're not looking up the
amount of yards you got to cover just to get
into the scoring territory. We play the game on our
show a lot of times about three words. I'm just
gonna give y'all two today kind of just piggybacks on you,
just kind of piggybacks on your thought with bringing some
(36:46):
value is first downs. That's it. And we always talk
about third down conversions and everything like, I'm not even
worried about that. I want first downs because guess what
if we get a first down on first down? With that,
we get a first down on second down.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Great?
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Right, But this all kind of goes together with what
you were talking about. Defense was being it was on
the field too much last week against Miami. How do
you prevent that? Just get first downs? And I don't
care how they come. I don't care if you take
one because of penalty. It's fine. First downs is the
key in this game. When we look up, we need
to see Atlanta have more first downs than the Patriots
(37:27):
do because they're staying on the field. And then hopefully
they can turn the tides in the red zone because
Atlanta is not good in the red zone and when
it comes to touchdown percentages. But you get first downs,
you're in territory to score. You got to put points
on the board. You're going to have to score against
the Patriots. I don't know if you guys see this
as a fourteen to nine game, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Know you got it. This is an offensive league. We've
been really fortunate how well the defense is played here.
Early on. I think Jeff Ulbrich's done an outstanding job
of melding the new guys that he's got and they're
playing at a good level. And I know that you
see thirty four points on the board. Again, the offense
contributed to that. So but at some point, as Ractus said,
(38:06):
this is an offense. This is it's built to be
an offensive league. You got to go make some plays
on the offensive side of the football. First downs, so racket,
so the four first downs we had in the first
half this last week is not enough for you. It's
like that's like Rack saying, Okay, I got mac and cheese.
Where's the meat?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
You know?
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Where are my greens? I didn't get any greens? Wait,
what's the deal I got you? Know, so you want
a full meal?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
You want a full meal?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I got you.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
It's amazingly you can't walk into this thing sleepily.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right right right, there's no there's no we get no melowtony,
none of that stuff. You know. You can take your
pill to go over to over over to Germany if
you want to on the flight over none of that.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
We asked for three, but we're going to give you four. Okay.
Secondary's got to play well. Arch is looking for value
on offense, shock through back in special teams, got to
play much more discipline. It's all good because I added
it to the list, cuz, and then I'm talking about
first downs in this game. So there's your four keys.
We thought it was going to be three, but we
(39:07):
gave you four. Anyway, Okay, week, let's score it up.
Let's take a look next week, and did those four
things happened for Atlanta? And if they did did they win,
did they lose, or if it didn't happen, maybe that's
the reason.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Let's go. Let's go ar.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
So you bring us back a dumb it's over you.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
One o'clock Sunday afternoon, Falcons at Patriots looking to get
back on trap. That's gonna rack it. That's gonna wrap
things up here on the Falcons Audible presented by AT
and T. That's DJ shot, rack it up. We can
rack it up, rack up. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
These let's go to New England racking up
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