November 11, 2025 • 49 mins
Derek, Dave, and DJ revisit their Schlüssel zum Spiel (Keys to the Game) from last week and break down some of the struggles for Atlanta coming off their overtime loss to the Indianapolis Colts. Then, the guys look at the big picture and how the Falcons can turn things around going into the second half of the season. Finally, they look ahead to the Carolina Panthers rematch at Mercedes-Benz Stadium before giving their 3 words to a victory.
0:00 - Intro
2:41 - Arch’s Germany recap
6:51 - Revisiting Schlüssel zum Spiel
15:48 - Areas for quick fixes
21:36 - Offensive inconsistencies
29:43 - Turning things around
39:51 - Panthers rematch
45:33 - 3 words to victory
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Speaker 5 (00:43):
I'm Derek Rackley.
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
I wish there was one shout.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well listen so so part of the reason why I'm
wearing this is like we're dealing with somewhat of a
polar vortex here in the southeast. It is unseasonably cold
here and uh great word for Texte.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I thought about that I felt like a vortext trying
to get in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You get a text from your daughter. She's seventeen, and
she drives right and her car stays in the driveway
at night. She texts me this morning, and she sends
me a picture of the thermostat, like on the bottom.
She goes, how do I make this thing warmer? Doesn't
know how to work the heat, but it's just entirely
too cold altogether. Yeah, we don't deal with the cold
too well in the southeast, says the guy that was
(01:39):
born and raised in Minnesota. However, I've been down here
twenty five and a half years now, so I am
a Southerner now my blood is thinned out. Atlanta Falcons gold.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yea, yeah, Southeastern iaho at fifty five hundred feet. I
don't know any about thing about that now six months.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
A year, we are so far removed from that. Now, Yes,
we are soft Southerners. So Falcons travel across.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The pond to Germany.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They play four plus quarters of competitive football, but unfortunately
they come away with a thirty one twenty five overtime
loss to the Colts and Fellas. Let's go ahead and
unpack this one a little bit arch before we came
on air, you said that there is a number of
different angles that we could go on this one before
we dive into the x's and o's of the game art.
(02:29):
Since you were there, okay, why don't you give us
and our viewers and listeners a little bit of flavor
of how the trip was, what you saw, how you felt.
Did you have any like history, history and nostalgia and
all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, Well, first of all, the fan scenario over there
is off the charts guy, Yes, I mean, and it's
funny because it becomes an event. Okay, so yes, we
play Sunday in.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
It's Colts Falcons.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But you would think there is a jamboree. Remember how
your kids or you've had kids that you probably had
your son they played in the jamboree. And so there's
like eight teams there and all the fans of those.
That's essentially what this was. Thirty two teams fans. I
saw a dude walking down the street. He had New
York Giant. He had a starter jacket underneath that, he
had a shirt onto it at nyg On. He had
(03:16):
a pair of sweats on it said Giants down the leg.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
He had a fanny pack. Giants.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
They're not even telling all thirty two teams were represented
and the place was packed. The fans were phenomenal. You
got Country Roads, you got Sweet Caroline which they love.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
To sing to and all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
You even got a little Bond jovie.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, that's a pretty impressive wave go on with
the flags and stuff. So from a yeah, from a
from a fan perspective, phenomenal and they really embraced it,
wrapped their arms around and give all the people Berlin
and hopefully we got a number of our fans that
we got a chance to meet at our team party
on Saturday night, had a number of fans come over,
(03:59):
some four four hundred fans came to the Falcon House Haus.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There in Berlin.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Got a chance to spend a lot of time with
people that see our podcast, that see some of the
things we do on Atlanta falcons dot com. We appreciate
you guys, and you guys be safe over there and everything.
But it was really cool to be with you. So
the fan perspective was really cool. Obviously, there's a historical perspective.
We know about the wall and mister Garbage, Cheff Tarry
down this wall, Ronald Reagan said, thirty six years ago.
(04:29):
And they got that done, and you can still see
remnants of the wall and some of what was going
on there when you had a communist occupied side and
the free side on the other side. I say free
the non communist side, I guess I should put it.
But so you got all that, and then there was
some really old buildings, and obviously we know what happened
I think you should know what happened in nineteen thirty
(04:51):
six when the Nazi Party had begun to take over Germany,
and that was who was in power at the time,
and we had an Olympic Games over there, and we
had one of the great Olympic performances in history, maybe
the greatest performance in history. Jesse Owens wins four gold
medals over there, when's the one hundred to two hundred,
(05:12):
the long jump and the four by one. And I
stood right on the field and I pulled up a
picture of the podium where Owens is standing somewhere in
that area on the podium, saluting and getting his gold
medal for one in one hundred meters. Just phenomenal to
be it was so eerie to be in that play,
especially with evil that we knew was brewing in the
(05:33):
performance that Jesse put on that day along with some
of his teammates from the American team and some of
the other people around the country. I felt like hamstring
was probably going to go if I tried to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Problem was.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I stayed away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
But overall, long trip on the flight, you know, and
I guess that's part of what you endure to be
able to see some stuff like that. Eight hours going,
eight and a half hours going over nine and a half
hours coming back. We got about got home Monday morning,
about three thirty in the morning, and so that's not
like you know, going out and playing San Francisco on
a on a Sunday night like we did here a
few weeks ago and getting back. But it was long,
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and so it took kind of a day to kind
of readjust and get your clock back going. But it
was worth the trip other than the fact that we
didn't go over there and get done what we were
supposed to go do, and that was get back on
the winning track.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
And so let's dive in.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I gotta say that, you know, I said that last
week that you'd be in here with bags under your
eyes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You seem pretty good art.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So? Yeah, you look fresh.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, a sire, I like it. Got an extra cup
of coffee here, he's looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Joe, glad you're back home. I know she was happy
to see you again.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, she accepted. Be back in the house. Yeah,
come back in. So I was okay there.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So last week, if you watched the show, we went
over what we called last week as schlucial zoom spiel.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
You're a native now, yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm sure all the Germans think that, which was our
keys to the game. So let's revisit that and see
how Atlanta ended up firing shock dominate the line of scrimmage?
What was your assessment on whether or not they dominated
the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So this is a are you a cup half full? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know I got on you about that too.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You did, you did? You did? And you know, I
think it's a mixed bag for what you say. Obviously
one of the keys and it could have been either way.
And I talked about it being a line of scrimmage
game and of course you look up and you know
they rush for over three hundred yards and Jonathan Taylor
has a monster day of two hundred plus on the ground,
and we have a third and twenty one, and well,
(07:40):
let Daniel Jones get out the gate for you know,
nineteen twenty yard game. So you look at it and say,
you know, well, we like we dominate line of scrimmage
at all on that point. But then you know, you
also turn on the other side and you get seven sacks,
you turn them over. You do a lot of good
things getting after Daniel Jones, but those things obviously stick out.
So you know, I think it's kind of a fifty
(08:00):
to fifty thing on that part of my Keys, and
obviously it was not the best of it because ultimately
it ended up probably winning the game for them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, that's one of those shocks where when the opposing
team runs the football like you did, you kind of
have to stop there and everything else gets thrown out
the doors, right, And it's not the National Football League
gets every single level you get.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Ran on like that, And.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The fact I don't want to go away from revisiting
our Keys here, but like the fact that Atlanta still
made it competitive with the way that they ran the
football is almost impressive. Like you don't look come away
with stuff like that as in a loss, but like
they were in the game, and they dominated in the
run game, Usually that ends up being a lopsided affair.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I think that the domination certainly is indicated by
the number. And I think that if you take the
eighty three yard touchdown away, which you can't, but if
you took the eighty three yard touchdown away, they still
ran for two hundred and forty yards in the game.
That's taken the eighty yard or away, right, So that
would indicate, yeah, they got after us in the run game.
But I didn't feel like that was what was going
(09:06):
on in the game. This was a game of explosive plays.
And when you go back and look at it, Okay, yes,
three hundred yards rushing eighty three of it on one play.
He had another forty yard run in the game. Daniel
Jones ran twice for twenty plus yards, And so when
you begin to look at it, how do you? And
that was my key to the game. I got my
keys written down here. I said limit. I said limit
(09:30):
explosive plays. They'd come into the game with twenty nine.
Over the last three games, they had twenty nine plays
of fifteen yards or more. They had twelve in this game.
So when you begin to look at all the yard
that you gave up on the ground, in particular the
explosives or what beat you, wasn't that they beat your
head into the ground with the run game. It was
(09:51):
it they had explosive plays, and so you know, that's
that's my evaluation on that. I don't think that it
necessarily would indicate, Okay, you're horrible against the run. No,
you got it. You can't allow them to have the
explosives if you because you know they ran them ball
forty one times. You probably could take thirty of the runs.
You handled it, but you let him get out and
(10:13):
the ones that were and those are the ones that
got you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, you mentioned some of the explosives.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tyler Warren had a twenty four yard catch, Alec Pierce
had a thirty seven yarder early. Jonathan Taylor had a
twenty four yarder out of the backfield as well as
what he had in the run game. So those were
some of the explosive plays given up by the Falcons defense.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Arch yours was your.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Schlusu Zoom Spiels was the QB that has the most
rushing yards wins the game, and if his numbers are correct, one.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Wait a minute, this is the only one that actually
works because we're gonna get the racks and Raxhead was
one of one of this.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
All this stuff happened on defense, which he got and
it's still the.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Only one that actually applies to winning.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
He had seven carries fifty three yards, and he had
a couple backbreaking runs and there was a huge one
on third and twenty one late in the football game
which led to the game tying field goal. He runs
for nineteen yards and it makes it fourth. Now you
still have to convert on fourth down, which they really
tightly congested. Through the contested throw, he makes the Warren
(11:17):
Billy Bowmen's right in his hip pocket, but he completes it.
But they got back to where they could throw some
little control route instead of trying to throw verticals because
you let him get out and run nineteen yards and
instead of being fourth and fifteen where they couldn't throw
that little out route, now it's fourth and two. So yeah,
seven carries fifty three yards and he had some of
(11:39):
those that kind of put things back in perspective for
the play caller.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
So big day for Daniel Jones in.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That regard, and in comparison, Michael Pennix had one rush
for minus one yard. So there's been a lot of
talk about that, guys from local media, I think national
media on whether or not Michael needs to get out
more because he's got that ability. I think Michael wants
to be a throwing, pocket passing quarterback, and we have
seen a couple of times when he has slipped out
(12:06):
and he's made some things happen, and you don't necessarily
want to say, let's turn him into a running quarterback.
It's just use it when the situation calls for it.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Sure, Yeah, his choices, it's choices shock.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's not about having the opportunity. He has the opportunity
to do it. And I'll give you guys a for instance.
We have a play where he gets out of the pocket.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
It's designed boot. He gets out of the pocket. He's
got Drake on the.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Sideline that's somewhat open for about a three or four
yard game. He's got Mooney running over route, a shallow
drag over route, probably at about eight to ten yards
and then he's got pits on a corner door the sideline.
The Colts cover it pretty good. He gets out of
the pocket. There's nobody for him. He gets out of
the pocket, he can go get five or six yards
(12:53):
and hooks slide down and now it's second and three.
But he decides to kind of throw against his arm,
tries to hit Mooney.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Who's really got a guy draped all over him.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
He could have maybe be called interference on the play,
but he throws a knee high throat in Mooney like
a bullet and Mooney doesn't catch it.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Now it's second and ten.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Those are decisions that he has got to get over.
He's got to go make the decision. I don't have
anything here except this, and this is acceptable. I'm going
to go get seven or eight and get on the ground.
He could have easily done that. And there's probably four
or five of those every game that that's part of
his growth. And again, young quarterback to what twelve starts
(13:32):
in his career, eleven starts in his career, He's got
to get to some of that state.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It'll be interesting. And though I would love to better
pick his brain to see what his mindset is on
those particular type of plays. I remember when I played
in college, when I was here with the Falcons, the
number one rule was when you come out on boot,
you have to make sure that they feel like you
obviously can take off. You got to attack the line
of scrimmage so that they will come up. But the
(13:56):
number one rule is attack the line of scrimmage first,
and here comes something else open. But I would love
to know, because, like you mentioned, it's something that we've
seen in three or four games where you got opportunity
to pick up four or five yards and may not
seem like much, but like you mentioned, go from second
and ten to I mean first and ten to now
you got second and six, second and five. Now things
(14:18):
are a little bit easier. It gets to okay, now
we're a little bit better on third down because our
third down is that's seventh plus like we've been in
for a long time, and that's a whole nother issue
as well. But I think that kind of stuff can
also help your offense as well when you start getting
to those later down situations.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I mean, Morris wants to barbecue. They want to barbecue
the offensive coordinator. Yep, well you know what, my job's
held a lot easier if you go get me six
or seven on that play, no doubt, as opposed to
let's line up on second and ten.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and Rahee Morris has mentioned it on multiple occasions
that we're playing in third and long too many times, Like,
it doesn't matter what level you're playing at. Again, if
you constantly have to convert third and ten, third and twelve,
third and thirteen, it's it's gonna be a challenge, especially
in the National Football League. How defenses and players are
just so good. My key was the defense causing chaos
(15:05):
and arch you kind of talked about this already, and
they caused chaos. Seven sacks for pressure, a two turnovers,
nine tackles for lost, couple of prospect breakups in this game.
They did a lot of really good things and you
want to say, you want to put a check mark
by it, But when you lose the game and they
run the way that they did on the defense, it's
(15:25):
hard to find any It's hard to say, yeah, it's great, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean it is. It's positive. You can build off
of it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
You want to continue to get pressure on the quarterback,
you want to create turnovers, but when it's in a
losing effort, it's just kind of hard to be excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Right, So I think you're you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I think that's a great it was a great idea
as far as what you want to do, and you
did it.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
You said that. Yep, I'm gonna ask you this rack.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
You you've got your the young the two young players
on the edge are starting to come of age really quickly.
I mean, Pierce and Walker are coming right dorless inside
essentially a rookie in Mike is come making some stuff
you played. I mean they're common right, and so do
you believe I do, But I want to hear what
(16:09):
do you believe that what you're doing wrong defensively? And
again there's a lot going on, right, I think you're
still eight or ninth or tenth overall defense are fixable
to where the next week you can be marketably better
in some of the areas you made mistakes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean I think a lot of especially when
you when you talk about the explosive plays. Usually what
happens is it's one thing. It's like somebody forgot they're contained,
they got washed inside, or it was one mistackle or
it was a missed assignment some but one person missed assignment.
That's why we always talk about like the difficulty in
the game of football is eleven players have to operate
(16:48):
efficiently at the same time in order to have success,
and sometimes one mistake on of play, whether it's offensively
or defensively, can turn into those game breaking plays.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so so yeah, it's and the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Other thing I hear from Raheem Morrison, and he's talking
a lot about offense, but you could say this about defense.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Too, is it's it's execution. It's just getting the job done.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Like a lot of times people are there to make
the play and you just don't make the play, like
the touchdown that Jonathan Taylor had, Like Jesse Bates was there. Yeah,
you got to give Jonathan Taylor credit. He made a
great move, he was there, Jesse Bates was there, just
didn't make the play right. And so, I mean that
was that final drive they were driving down the I mean,
oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
At that point.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But I'm just you know, not to give an example,
but to point yes, it's it's things that can be fixable,
but a lot of times it's just one little breakdown.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And all of a sudden somebody's out the gate and
you're looking.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
At it exposive.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, to your point, let's go back the Pierce touchdown.
They go two plays ninety five yards, had a dope.
They're playing quarters, okay, and so quarters means you got
for the layman fan out there, the quarters is you
got four guys playing what essentially is an umbrella. Look,
but they're playing quarters of the field. So so how
do you attack that is a lot of times in
(18:03):
post or double posts to try to pull one guy
out and get it isolated. Well, there's a learning process
that goes into the young safety. Watts is on the
same side of the field with the corner, and so
they run a post and a dig. Okay, so which
is an in round. So Warren they stacked and they
run a post on the corner. The corner's playing outside
(18:23):
technique and Warren, the tight end runs an in rount
at about twelve yards, and so the safety hesitates even
though there's nothing threatening Jesse And in fact, if you
look at the tape, Jesse goes like this, I got
him to free up Watts, but he hasn't seen it enough.
And this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Young guys. Developing. Watts bites on it just for acount,
and that's all you need is a quarterback. I've got
a post on an outside technique corner.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm taking the shot because I can throw it over
the top of the safety and sure enough Watts tries
to get out of there, but he can't get there
in time.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Perfect throw. I point the football with the big receiver.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
It's a touchdown that can be fixed because now all
of a sudden, I've seen it right shock a young guy,
and so he and Jesse are talking saying, listen, you
see this. You got to look at the other side
of the field. You can't just be so locked on
your side. If there's nobody threatening me on my side
of the field, I'm going to take that guy because
he's coming in my zone. Now he's leaving your quarter
to come in my quarter, and I got him, yep.
(19:23):
So your you keep getting the hell out of there
so you can protect the corner on that and that post.
That's what I'm talking about. What you're talking about about
run fitting and being in the right place the run fits.
That's what you can I think you can exponentially be better,
especially when young players see that kind of stuff. Oh okay,
that's what they can do to me, you know, and
I think that that's something they'll they'll improve on immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, And I think that's the you know, you could
say what you want about Daniel Jones that he's not,
you know, an upper echelon NFL QB. But that's the
difference is in the college game to the NFL game
is sometimes shock the reads get simplified to the point
to where it's like, all right, here's the concept. You're
reading this safety like you see a hesitation, boom, cut
it loose right, and then all of a sudden, if
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you see him drop back, then you go to number two,
then you go to the tight end, then you come
to the checkdown whatever. But that's what I think the
average fan doesn't understand is that these guys are making
these decisions literally in the snap of a finger. But
it's just that hesitation that Arch talked about. As soon
as you see it, boom, you know you got.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It and you're talking about a hesitation. Here is an
example as well on the other side of where the
hesitation throws you off or whether the Falcons did a
really good job with disguising the sack fumbled by James Pearce.
They got seventy guys with a lot of scrimmers. Jesse
Bates is the outside guy on a line of scrimmage.
It looks like he's going to rush. So Daniel Jones
is like, okay, I see him rushing. They obviously they
(20:44):
have more guys than we can blow. They got five
guys in the protection. You got Jonathan Taylor, who's gonna
go right out here on the right side.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Run a little screen.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jesse Bates peals on the screen. Danie Jones wants to
throw the screen, but now it's covered. He has to
hesitate that little hesitation. James Pearce is the free guy
off the backside. Guess what, It goes to sack fumble.
So that's how you talking about how quickly they hesitated,
how quickly you see things days only the mindset. Okay,
I know I'm hot, I gotta get rid of this football.
But as he gets ready to go to football, Bass right,
(21:13):
the guy who looks like he's about to blitz because
you look at Jesse Base on the play hill, Oh,
he's repped up like he's coming snap at the ball.
He peels. Dan just looks to his right, Oh, I
can't throw that. By the time he hesitates to come back,
boom sack fumble the other way around. So that's how
quickly you're talking about a small hesitation or think you
knowing what a defense is going to do, can turn
into a play that works bell for the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So let's kind of talk a little bit more. I've
got again, I've got the two quarterbacks here, and talk
a little bit about these offensive inconsistencies. And sometimes Rahie
Morris always says stats are for losers, but there's I
look at him a lot because I think it tells stories,
trends where you're going. And the thing that I looked
(21:56):
at last night that was troubling to me was that
Michael Pennix has got a fifty eight point eight percent
completion rate this year.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I looked and I.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Believe that there's only two quarterbacks that have played regular time. Okay,
not just the random fill in guy, but Dylan Gabriel
and cam Ward are the only two that are below
him as far as completion rate. And even if you
go back to last year, guys, he's been around a
fifty eight percent passer. That's not going to help you
win football games. So to my two quarterbacks here, Raheem
(22:26):
Morris is always talking about we got to execute, we
got to stay out a third and long. All those
would help all this out. How do they get Michael
And I'm not saying that he's got to be a
seventy five percent completion rate passer, that's unrealistic in the
National Football League, But sixty three to sixty five to
sixty seven is it helps you win football games?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
How do they get him their arch?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Well, a lot of things have to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And I asked you about that question defensively because I
feel like there are some pretty quick learned things that
you can fix things and you can be dramatically better
than next week. This one is a little bit more complicated,
and this one depends on guys around him making plays.
Kyle Pitts runs an over route on the first play
of the game and Pinnix puts.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The ball right on him.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's a seventy yard touchdown, catch the ball, he drops
the football. Okay, you get a two man twist up front,
something that you have in practice every day. Two it's
a TT stunt. The two tackles twist we don't pick
it up. It's a four man pass rush and Pinnix
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has got a guy right here in his face. What
are you wanting to do? You want him to throw
it away? There's another incompletion. Pinnix gets out of the
pocket on the boot leg like I talked about and
tries to shove it in to Mooney take off. Yep, Okay,
there's another incompletion. So I just talked about three incompletions.
You add that into maybe four or five other plays
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where he could have made a better throw. I mean,
Kyle wins on a fade, it's a touchdown. Throw it
out there to him. If he gets it to him,
it's a walk in touchdown. He makes some mistakes that
add to it. My point is that there's not one
thing you point out and say, hey, Michael, you need to
take the higher percentage throw, which he can make better decisions.
Let's not throw the fade on on third and six.
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Let's work something a little bit more, or on first down.
If we don't see anyth down, the Philli's drop it off.
You know, you can work on that kind of stuff,
But shak it. It's a myriad of things that are
going on the people around him have got to play
better to allow him to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And then the one that you talked about the pits.
I mean, yeah, he could have made a better throw,
but dude, I would also say, you got to go
get the ball, right, Like I think Kyle Pitts is
one of the most athletic and physically imposing players, Like
I just don't feel like he made a great effort
to go get that ball, Like go reach over the
top of him and take it off the top of
his helmet, right, you long enough, you're athletic enough. Like
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that's the type of plays we saw it last week
with Drake London, like made three really difficult can tested catches.
Seemingly does that all the time. We've mentioned this before,
like your quarterback's not always gonna throw a perfect throw.
Sometimes you gotta go bail them out, like you got
to go make an even better catch to keep the
drive going to score a touchdown, whatever the case may be.
Is there anything else that you're seeing with Michael Pennix
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that can help them just get a little bit more efficient.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I think there's a good job explaining a couple plays
where you're like, Okay, there's easy plays where you can
get to find some easy completion, and then there are
some ones where you gotta flat out and say you
got to hit the route. There's some where you got
free access. You're throwing an out route to Mooney, or
you're throwing a dig routing the seals. Maybe maybe you
guys haven't worked together all the time, but there are
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plays that are there you just gotta hit. And I
think ultimately he'll turn the tape on and he'll that's
on me. I gotta hit that one. And I think
that comes back to the maturity of Michael PENNOCKX and
here he'll say that in the film room. Probably won't
come out, you know, in the public. But there are
just plays that are out there that you can have
and then Arch I love for you to to dive
in it with me. But there's also the conversation of
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what's happening below the waists. There are a lot of
things that people talk about, Hey, the feet work is
not there. Some people talk about, hey, sometimes when he's
throwing to his left, he don't get it all the
way open, and that causes issues as far as your accuracy.
But then there's the naysayers or there's people who say,
you know what, there are guys around the league, like
a Matthew Stafford who his feet are everywhere, but the
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ball is on point and sometimes when you have a
strong arm like these both those guys have. You've made
those throws a thousand times without stepping into it. You
made that throw a thousand times without freaking step into
your target and get your belly to where it's supposed
to be and all this kind of stuff. But then
when it becomes an issue like it is now, that's
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when it starts to get really blown out of proportion,
and hey, maybe there's some things going on downstairs that's
causing the inaccuracy. So Artona if it's a big deal
to you, but it's something as a quarterback that I
pay tend to as well, because I was the guy
who at times footwork wasn't as good as it should be,
and ultimately it was why you were inaccurate or why
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throws weren't on time or one point, because your feet
usually tell you where to go to hitch here, hitch there,
or coming out on time, or you know, just stepping
to your target as a big part of it too.
So I don't know if that is something that you
see as well that says, okay, maybe that's a part
of it, or maybe it's just you know, also, he
just got to hit that throw.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It is.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think it's paramount Shock. What you're talking about is
a critical piece to taking some of the inaccuracies, some
of the things that he's doing that he can improve
on dramatically and bring his feet with him. The problem
is is, you guys are blessed. Shock had a monster arm, okay,
and that Pennix has a big arm YEP, Matt Stafford
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monster arm. I didn't have that. My arm was more
like Montana's arm. I wish I could have thrown it
like Joe Montana, but I had to move my feet
a little bit more to make some of the throws
or not even make them at all, and I end
up taking a sack or trying to get out because
I knew I couldn't make that throw. You guys know
you can make the throw probably six out of ten times.
What happens those other four times it's either incomplete or
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I put the ball in harm's way because I didn't
square my feet up to make the throw. And so
I think you're dead on he's now The Matt Stafford
argument has no water with me. Okay, what year is
this for Matt Stafford? Okay, I guarantee you go back
sixteen years ago. Matt Stafford's making the same throws at
Michael Pennix has thrown.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It ain't working out true, But now he understands.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And this is what I keep talking about. I know
you have you guys who both talked about as a
young player, whether you're Jalen Walker you're Michael Pennix. I
gotta figure out what I can get away with at
this level and what I can't. And he's still figuring
that stuff out. So he's gonna get better, but we
need other guys around him to make up for some
of those inefficiencies by making plays around him.
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and conditions apply. Shock, wasn't it seems like it wasn't
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too long ago. Falcons had a bye week comeback to
get a big win over Buffalo, sitting at three and two,
and since then they've lost four straight games. So now's
where I want you to take off your player helmet
and I want you to put on your coaching cap.
And how does Atlanta turn this thing around?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Shock?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Like? How do they?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Because it's easy to sit here and talk about playoffs, right,
but like we're three and six, Like, you gotta work
on getting one win, you gotta work on trying to
put together a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
How does that happen for Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know what? I think? Ultimately it's hard because you're
you're sitting here at three and six and you say,
all right, you gotta find a way. And I think
for me, you look at some of the small things
that we've already talked about, and it's details it's the
small nuances within your game. You mentioned it when we
came on. The one eleventh part of it, I think
is huge. I think we focus a lot on not
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just up talking about us. I'm talking about just fans
and generally talking about everything that's going on the whole
entire team. But I think when you get inside the team,
it's about the one guy. It's about you know whoever's playing.
You know that that that that that that left tackle,
and you got to make sure that you know, hey,
you're blocking this guy come off the edge. You gotta
do your one eleventh job. I think that's what it
comes down to, ultimately, the details of doing small things
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that's gonna help you win ball games. Uh, when you
get outside of yourself and you try to do more
than what's asked of you, I think that's where you've
gotten in a little bit of trouble. And this is
a point in a season where each guy, and we
mentioned last week, you gotta go look at the mirror
and say, man, am I doing everything possible to help
this team win. If I'm a veteran, am I doing
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everything possible to help one of my young guys come
along A little bit faster. Is there anything I could
do when I come in and watch more film. Can
I pull a guy to the side and say, you know,
I saw this, I saw that? Or is it just me?
Do I have to find ways to get better? No?
To me, you can't get the entire team better unless
each guy fundamentally finds out how they can improve this team.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And I think the other thing that is reality. It's
not an excuse, but it's reality is for the majority
of the season, you have two rookie pass rushers. You
have a rookie safety. You have a rookie Nickel who
just came back on the field, who missed a few games,
but he's still learning.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You got J. D. Bertram and that's.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Thrown into the middle of the defense now. And yeah,
he's not a rookie, but he's kind of a rookie
when it comes to playing inside linebacker down after down
after down in the national Yes, and you got a
quarterback and Michael Pennix that's in his second year, but
his first year is a full time starter. He's learning
every single week. It's not an excuse for losses, but
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it is the reality of the situation when you have
so many young players that you're counting on to bring
production at critical positions, like your pass rushers in the
National Football League, your safeties, your defensive backs. If they're
not on the same page, if they're not communicating, bad
things can happen. Right, And if you haven't seen all
the things like you talked about with Xavier Watts, like unfortunately,
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you're gonna have to learn from some bad mistakes in
order to be better the next time around. So arch
I wanted to get your opinion, like where the Falcons
are at three and six before we get to Carolina,
Like what has to be the mind shift knowing not
only have they lost four straight, but they're coming off
a trip that they just came overseas and they don't
have a bye week. Like, guys, saddle right back up,
you got another game coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Well, you're capable of doing everything you need to do.
You just played two teams of what are combined sixteen
and four and you're right there. You could could have,
should have and maybe should have won both football games.
So if you want to think about do I belong
if there is some wavering as far as that goes,
you can throw that out the window. You know he
took Buffalo to task in this building. I mean, you've
got the ability to play with anybody in the National
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Football League. You have the ability to play in games.
I mean, you took the ball on your own nineteen
yard line, went five plays, eighty one yard shoved at
the end zone. That was in the first first quarter.
You're capable of doing it. So I've got to understand
moments of the game that are going to be critical
without getting tight and oh god, here we go. We
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got Okay, I'm going to give you guys for four.
For instance, we took over the ball at the minus
forty seven, which is our forty seven yard line. Any
minus is on our side of the fifty yard line
for the fans, minus forty seven minus forty forty four,
minus forty three, minus forty five. Okay, so you're essentially
fifty five yards from paid heart or you're what shock
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twenty or rack twenty five.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Range this day. Okay, yeah, so yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
We got one touchdown in four half field opportunities. We
got one touchdown. On the other hand, Indianapolis had a
very similar scenario. They took over at their minus forty
three minus forty one plus forty seven our side and
plus forty four, So they got four opportunities. They ended
up with thirteen points out of that we got seven.
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We lost the game by six. So opportunities, whether it's
to make a play on a deep over route the
ball hits you right in the chest and runs for
a touchdown, or you get a guy wins on a fade,
put it on him, or you get a situation where
I got a half field opportunity, I don't have to
go eighty with it, seventy five get I can go
twenty five and ruin field goal range. I've got to
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cash those opportunities in because, as it turned out, both
teams had four of them in the game, and more
often than not, there's going to be somewhere between nine
and eleven possessions in the game. If I get four
opportunities to get a half field, I have to score.
Got to capitalize, and they're not doing that, And to me,
that's the number one thing that's keeping you from winning
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against You've got three one score games. You lost on
opening weekend to Tampa. That's a game you could have won.
You the last two weekends one score games if you
win those moments, we're six and three. We're not three
and six, yep. And to me, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
How many how many points did we get them when
they had two turnovers?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, well, the fumble that we got to, the walker fumble,
you're talking about, how many end points did we get?
We ended up we had three and out on that series.
Came in and went three and in fact three four.
You had four of those short field opportunities. Three two
of the short field opportunities we went three and out.
The other one we punted, and then we got one
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where we went down and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Scored at And that's my point is the hidden yards
in the ball game. You talk about special teams, big
returns by them, big returns by them, set them up,
you know what I'm saying. So the hidden yards in there,
the hidden yards on turnovers that you don't capitalize on.
Those are points left out there, Those are yards left
out there. Those are opportunities in the ball game that
could change a win or a loss. And we always
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told you never know what play is gonna be. But
you got turnovers in this game, you got some short fields,
you got some opportunities that you don't capitalize on, but
they did and capitalize on their short yards, hitting yards, sitting.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Which is yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
So the question you go into the meetings with and
I know we've all been in the meetings. Okay, so
let's pair it down to those four possessions where we
got short field?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
What did we do?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I guarantee you the staff is sitting down. If you
want to talk about coaching and all that kind they're
sitting down and evaluating. Okay, what did I call? What
did we do with those opportunities? Because we didn't really
do anything. We had one score for a touchdown, the
other three came up empty. Two of them are three
and outs. You get a major change of momentum with
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the play you talked about where Pierce comes off the edge,
blows him up, Walker recovers the football, and now you
got this opportunity with momentum and they're feeling bad about themselves.
You sack the quarterback in, we don't do anything.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
With it, We don't cash it in.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
The staff, I guarantee you is grinding right now on
why are we not taking advantage those half field opportunities?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, and you guys mentioned it, and I thought about
it during the game, like it was. It was not
a good enough special team's performance to win the football game.
Gave up too many returns, did not have a good
punt one time. Guys, it's field position, right, It's all
about field position. There was one play that I actually
rewound as a kickoff coverage, and I think it's not
one hundred percent sure how you say his last time, Katriano,
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the young tight ends he's playing contain on the left side,
and somehow he gets swallowed up inside and he gives
the edge like it's it's kind of contain one oh one.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
When you're in that.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Position, like, you have to leave your outside arm free
and they cannot bounce outside of you. If they do,
there's likely nobody there to make the play. Like, that's
why that position is Squeeze it down, keep your outside
arm free, and if he starts bubbing this way, you've
got to fight your way outside to turn him into
the rest of the coverage team. Right, if you get
him outside, boom, That's exactly what happens. All of a sudden,
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the guys at midfield, right, and like that's let's call
it two and a half to three first downs right there, right,
you get them tackled around the twenty five versus the
fifty or longer, like you just gave them three first
downs Like this National Football League, they're gonna make you
pay for that, right rack.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
How much is it? Like?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
How much have you been able to figure out over
the first these two seasons with the new dynamic kickoff?
Is it like a running play you just talked about
keeping my outside It almost you're almost describing like a
defensive defensive leverage defensive end where I gotta keep, I
gotta leverage, I gotta turn the play back to the inside.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, I mean, but I would say even back when
when I was playing in special teams, was the same
way when we had the old school rules. Right when
you were running down, was like you always your two
players on each side, right, the widest two. One was
your contain that was going all the way down. One
was your safety.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So they would run down and then they would throttle
down a little bit, and their responsibility was if something
gets if they skate out, you're there. You should be unblocked.
If not, there's gonna be somebody coming late for you.
Your job is to go make that play like that's
a corner, a nickel, or a safety because that's what
they're used to, right, coming up in the box and
kind of seeing what happens and going to making a tackle.
But with this new kickoff rule, now it's like they're
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right next to the guy right when the when the
catch is being made and then you're going downfield. But
the same principle applies, right, these got to go back
into the rest of your coverage team, right, that's when
you're gonna get the tackle right away, you get him
down on the ground. So special teams has got to
be better. So let's turn the page real quick. Let's
talk about Carolina. If there's one game where we got
to have a short term memory, it's the Panthers. It
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was not one of those one score games that you
talked about it. It was an embarrassing performance that I'm
sure a lot of people in this locker room shot
are looking to avenge that loss. Okay, I'm gonna throw
this question up to you. You can take it based off
of the last performance, or you can take it based
off of what needs to happen in this game. But
how does Atlanta flush the last four weeks flush? Berlin
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Germany potentially flushed the last time they played the Panthers
and have a different result on Sundays.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It sounds cliche, but this is one of those you
go back, it was way back in week three, and
you figure out how different are you from week three?
You think about the things that led to the loss
in that ballgame, and I went back and looked at it,
and you look at the statue and you say, man,
you're dominating a lot of categories in that ballgame. You
look at the numbers and Carolina was three of eleven
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on third down. Falcons outgained them by close to almost
one hundred yards in the ball game. Yards per play,
they were four point one. You were five point h
but you had three turtles in the game, You had
two interceptions, You had a funnel in that ball game.
And when you have those kind of issues on the road,
guess what, No. Tenchs out of ten, you're probably not
gonna come out of it the right way. Obviously, Bryce Young,
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they did a really good job of just getting the
football out of his hands. This is going to be
I think a game where you come back, you're in
your own building. It's been a while since you've been back,
and ultimately, I think it just comes down to just
the pride that you have coming into this ball Hey,
you're all in tow in the division. You gotta go
win this ball game. If you fall one three and
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you fall behind, you can't get swept by the Carolina Panthers.
And then they come here and do that. I think
this is I go back to the details of your
assignment each week, and you know, you look back on
that ball game. There are a lot of things that
you can clean up. There a lot of things that
were very fixable. There are a lot of things that
if you play just a little bit better, you have
a different outcome. And of course they're gonna look back
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and say, hey, they just they went on the road
the Green Bay gotta win. But then they lose to
the Saints this past week, So you look up what
the Saints did one hundred and twenty two rush yaws
on thirty seven attempts. This is a ball game where
you can get back hit a run game. I think
it starts there. I think it takes a lot of
pressure off your quarterback. It gives you more opportunities to
push the football down the field, and it gives you
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a little opportunity. So they had one hundred and seventy
five total yards in the ballgame. They with three to
nine on third down. Again, now we're not the best
team on third down ourselves, but there's some things that
they're not doing well either. So how about we go
out and you know, continue the trend in this game
at home.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
This team is five and five, the Carolina Panthers. But
as you look at their season, like, I can't figure
them out.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, they lost to the Patriots forty two to thirteen. Okay,
they beat the Cowboys thirty to twenty seven. They beat
the Jets barely, thirteen to six. We know the Jets struggles.
They get hammered by the Bills, okay, forty to nine.
They respond by beating the Packers on the road at Lambeau,
and then they lose to the Saints, who's got their
own issues, right. So it's like when you think you're
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talking about like you try to figure out what's what's
a team's trajectory. I don't know what the Panther trajectory is.
Arch there's a bunch of teams that like a sol
letely exactly. But I'm gonna ask you the same question, like,
what's it gonna What's what has to be different this
weekend for Atlanta Arch.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I think that I was really pleased with how we
got back to what Raheem had talked about. Part of
the backbone of this offensive unit is to be able
to come off the ball and run the football, and
I thought you were able to two way go the
run a good bit. I was really impressed to the
left side. Shout out to Kyle Hinton, who stepped in
just his second start of his career. He's played some
forty three, forty four games in his career, but as
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a starter, just his second start. I thought he did
a really good job off that left side. In fact,
I thought we were mashing him in the run game
on the left side a good bit in the game.
So getting back to that, the numbers defy logic. Would
you say they had total offense the first time we
played him in Week three, twenty four, two hundred and
twenty four yards, They were three or thirteen on thirdy
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ten and they won thirty to nothing.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
How does that happen a few times?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Well, the pick six right at the start of the
second made it seventeen to nothing, and at that point
we kind of shifted gears and got out a game
plan or whatever and turned down field goals because we
missed a couple of those and so it got sideways.
But the numbers would defy that. Get back to running
the football. Who you were I think you got You
got did a really good job of reidentifying that in
your run game. What was it, twenty nine run plays,
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twenty eight pass plays. Balance is whatever it takes to win.
I know it's thrown out there by the media that balanced.
Oh you ran it thirty times and you threw it
twenty that's great balance. Well, the numbers would indicate really
good balance. Twenty eight throws twenty nine. It's what it
takes to win the foot all though at fifty five times,
If that's the balance, I need to win the game.
But I think you can come back to run the football.
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The thing that you have to guard against is the
explosives have crept up on Atlanta's defense. The last couple
of weeks, gave up seven in New England. I think
you gave up twelve this week. So nineteen plays of
fifteen yards or more. Other than that, the chaos you're
talking about seven. You've got thirteen sacks in the last
two weeks. Takeaways, you're doing what you want to do.
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Let's take away the explosive play, which means Bryce Young.
I don't think he's a great player, but he's a facilitator,
kind of a point guard, small point guard and if
you allow him to move around in the pocket, slide
and fine, guys. And we had a problem with Daniel Jones.
To me, that would be one of the keys for
me is we got to keep Daniel, keep Bryce from
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buying time, and then let's tackle the football when they
try to run it.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, I like it. Last question, all right, this is
Shock's favorite game. Yay Shock three word key only three?
All right, I'm going first again. Yeah, because I'm giving
you guys time. Three words and only three words.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Oh yeah, it is meat. It's be y'allo like that.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Special teams win. Okay, special teams win. That means you're
buttoned up, you do what you're supposed to do on
special teams, and you win that phase of the game.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Simple, can't can't be Let's go dogs that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
I don't know what's wrong with that one. I'll go
how about play with urgency?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I like that because that talks about those short field opportunities. Right, yeah,
that's money. Come on, what.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You got baby? I like it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Shock actually had some efficiency with his words.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
I felt like going over. I said, I'm not gonna
do it.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Well, one of the hot players on their team has
been Rico. Down right, I'm gonna say he may let
go say no to Rico, say.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
No, no, no, Fai, I gotta retake the course.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Now I got six weeks of course, but Rico Rico, Okay, no,
no too Rico like that like that, Yeah, because I
can kind of be like a little slang.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
Too no toa.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
No, it's like no apostrophe t a. You know they're
still like, I blew it. I I failed the course.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Today we put the bars.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Just to recap. We recapped the Falcons game over at Berlin.
Jeremy went in a number of different angles there. We
talked a little bit about what it's going to take
to get back on track, and then we talked about
the Panthers who they are, maybe what they we don't
really know who they are, but what it's going to
take for a victory.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
This Sunday, last day, go ho was the food out
there good? No.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
We stayed at the Grand Hyatt Hotel there, and they
did a really good job. And it felt like there
was a Schmorgas board all day long there because as
soon as they took the breakfast down. You guys know
you've been on these road trips, here comes the breakfast
and you're going, Wow. I could just sit here and
be eight hundred pounds. So the stuff they made for
us over there was pretty good. I didn't really delve
into the local cuisine other than I had a.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Couple of pints.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Went in Berlin, right, was not october Fest, so I
missed that.
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Yeah, I can get chills a little bit thinking about
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
I wish there was one shout.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well listen so so part of the reason why I'm
wearing this is like we're dealing with somewhat of a
polar vortex here in the southeast. It is unseasonably cold
here and uh great word for Texte.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I thought about that I felt like a vortext trying
to get in the building.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You get a text from your daughter. She's seventeen, and
she drives right and her car stays in the driveway
at night. She texts me this morning, and she sends
me a picture of the thermostat, like on the bottom.
She goes, how do I make this thing warmer? Doesn't
know how to work the heat, but it's just entirely
too cold altogether. Yeah, we don't deal with the cold
too well in the southeast, says the guy that was
(01:39):
born and raised in Minnesota. However, I've been down here
twenty five and a half years now, so I am
a Southerner now my blood is thinned out. Atlanta Falcons gold.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yea, yeah, Southeastern iaho at fifty five hundred feet. I
don't know any about thing about that now six months.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
A year, we are so far removed from that. Now, Yes,
we are soft Southerners. So Falcons travel across.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
The pond to Germany.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
They play four plus quarters of competitive football, but unfortunately
they come away with a thirty one twenty five overtime
loss to the Colts and Fellas. Let's go ahead and
unpack this one a little bit arch before we came
on air, you said that there is a number of
different angles that we could go on this one before
we dive into the x's and o's of the game art.
(02:29):
Since you were there, okay, why don't you give us
and our viewers and listeners a little bit of flavor
of how the trip was, what you saw, how you felt.
Did you have any like history, history and nostalgia and
all that stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, Well, first of all, the fan scenario over there
is off the charts guy, Yes, I mean, and it's
funny because it becomes an event. Okay, so yes, we
play Sunday in.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
It's Colts Falcons.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
But you would think there is a jamboree. Remember how
your kids or you've had kids that you probably had
your son they played in the jamboree. And so there's
like eight teams there and all the fans of those.
That's essentially what this was. Thirty two teams fans. I
saw a dude walking down the street. He had New
York Giant. He had a starter jacket underneath that, he
had a shirt onto it at nyg On. He had
(03:16):
a pair of sweats on it said Giants down the leg.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
He had a fanny pack. Giants.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
They're not even telling all thirty two teams were represented
and the place was packed. The fans were phenomenal. You
got Country Roads, you got Sweet Caroline which they love.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
To sing to and all the time.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
You even got a little Bond jovie.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
You know, that's a pretty impressive wave go on with
the flags and stuff. So from a yeah, from a
from a fan perspective, phenomenal and they really embraced it,
wrapped their arms around and give all the people Berlin
and hopefully we got a number of our fans that
we got a chance to meet at our team party
on Saturday night, had a number of fans come over,
(03:59):
some four four hundred fans came to the Falcon House Haus.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
There in Berlin.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Got a chance to spend a lot of time with
people that see our podcast, that see some of the
things we do on Atlanta falcons dot com. We appreciate
you guys, and you guys be safe over there and everything.
But it was really cool to be with you. So
the fan perspective was really cool. Obviously, there's a historical perspective.
We know about the wall and mister Garbage, Cheff Tarry
down this wall, Ronald Reagan said, thirty six years ago.
(04:29):
And they got that done, and you can still see
remnants of the wall and some of what was going
on there when you had a communist occupied side and
the free side on the other side. I say free
the non communist side, I guess I should put it.
But so you got all that, and then there was
some really old buildings, and obviously we know what happened
I think you should know what happened in nineteen thirty
(04:51):
six when the Nazi Party had begun to take over Germany,
and that was who was in power at the time,
and we had an Olympic Games over there, and we
had one of the great Olympic performances in history, maybe
the greatest performance in history. Jesse Owens wins four gold
medals over there, when's the one hundred to two hundred,
(05:12):
the long jump and the four by one. And I
stood right on the field and I pulled up a
picture of the podium where Owens is standing somewhere in
that area on the podium, saluting and getting his gold
medal for one in one hundred meters. Just phenomenal to
be it was so eerie to be in that play,
especially with evil that we knew was brewing in the
(05:33):
performance that Jesse put on that day along with some
of his teammates from the American team and some of
the other people around the country. I felt like hamstring
was probably going to go if I tried to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Problem was.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I stayed away from it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
But overall, long trip on the flight, you know, and
I guess that's part of what you endure to be
able to see some stuff like that. Eight hours going,
eight and a half hours going over nine and a half
hours coming back. We got about got home Monday morning,
about three thirty in the morning, and so that's not
like you know, going out and playing San Francisco on
a on a Sunday night like we did here a
few weeks ago and getting back. But it was long,
(06:09):
and so it took kind of a day to kind
of readjust and get your clock back going. But it
was worth the trip other than the fact that we
didn't go over there and get done what we were
supposed to go do, and that was get back on
the winning track.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
And so let's dive in.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I gotta say that, you know, I said that last
week that you'd be in here with bags under your
eyes and stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You seem pretty good art.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
So? Yeah, you look fresh.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, a sire, I like it. Got an extra cup
of coffee here, he's looking good, feeling good.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Joe, glad you're back home. I know she was happy
to see you again.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, yeah, she accepted. Be back in the house. Yeah,
come back in. So I was okay there.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
All right.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
So last week, if you watched the show, we went
over what we called last week as schlucial zoom spiel.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
You're a native now, yeah, I can tell.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I'm sure all the Germans think that, which was our
keys to the game. So let's revisit that and see
how Atlanta ended up firing shock dominate the line of scrimmage?
What was your assessment on whether or not they dominated
the line of scrimmage?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
So this is a are you a cup half full? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know I got on you about that too.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
You did, you did? You did? And you know, I
think it's a mixed bag for what you say. Obviously
one of the keys and it could have been either way.
And I talked about it being a line of scrimmage
game and of course you look up and you know
they rush for over three hundred yards and Jonathan Taylor
has a monster day of two hundred plus on the ground,
and we have a third and twenty one, and well,
(07:40):
let Daniel Jones get out the gate for you know,
nineteen twenty yard game. So you look at it and say,
you know, well, we like we dominate line of scrimmage
at all on that point. But then you know, you
also turn on the other side and you get seven sacks,
you turn them over. You do a lot of good
things getting after Daniel Jones, but those things obviously stick out.
So you know, I think it's kind of a fifty
(08:00):
to fifty thing on that part of my Keys, and
obviously it was not the best of it because ultimately
it ended up probably winning the game for them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, that's one of those shocks where when the opposing
team runs the football like you did, you kind of
have to stop there and everything else gets thrown out
the doors, right, And it's not the National Football League
gets every single level you get.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Ran on like that, And.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
The fact I don't want to go away from revisiting
our Keys here, but like the fact that Atlanta still
made it competitive with the way that they ran the
football is almost impressive. Like you don't look come away
with stuff like that as in a loss, but like
they were in the game, and they dominated in the
run game, Usually that ends up being a lopsided affair.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, I think that the domination certainly is indicated by
the number. And I think that if you take the
eighty three yard touchdown away, which you can't, but if
you took the eighty three yard touchdown away, they still
ran for two hundred and forty yards in the game.
That's taken the eighty yard or away, right, So that
would indicate, yeah, they got after us in the run game.
But I didn't feel like that was what was going
(09:06):
on in the game. This was a game of explosive plays.
And when you go back and look at it, Okay, yes,
three hundred yards rushing eighty three of it on one play.
He had another forty yard run in the game. Daniel
Jones ran twice for twenty plus yards, And so when
you begin to look at it, how do you? And
that was my key to the game. I got my
keys written down here. I said limit. I said limit
(09:30):
explosive plays. They'd come into the game with twenty nine.
Over the last three games, they had twenty nine plays
of fifteen yards or more. They had twelve in this game.
So when you begin to look at all the yard
that you gave up on the ground, in particular the
explosives or what beat you, wasn't that they beat your
head into the ground with the run game. It was
(09:51):
it they had explosive plays, and so you know, that's
that's my evaluation on that. I don't think that it
necessarily would indicate, Okay, you're horrible against the run. No,
you got it. You can't allow them to have the
explosives if you because you know they ran them ball
forty one times. You probably could take thirty of the runs.
You handled it, but you let him get out and
(10:13):
the ones that were and those are the ones that
got you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, you mentioned some of the explosives.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Tyler Warren had a twenty four yard catch, Alec Pierce
had a thirty seven yarder early. Jonathan Taylor had a
twenty four yarder out of the backfield as well as
what he had in the run game. So those were
some of the explosive plays given up by the Falcons defense.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Arch yours was your.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Schlusu Zoom Spiels was the QB that has the most
rushing yards wins the game, and if his numbers are correct, one.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Wait a minute, this is the only one that actually
works because we're gonna get the racks and Raxhead was
one of one of this.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
All this stuff happened on defense, which he got and
it's still the.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Only one that actually applies to winning.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
He had seven carries fifty three yards, and he had
a couple backbreaking runs and there was a huge one
on third and twenty one late in the football game
which led to the game tying field goal. He runs
for nineteen yards and it makes it fourth. Now you
still have to convert on fourth down, which they really
tightly congested. Through the contested throw, he makes the Warren
(11:17):
Billy Bowmen's right in his hip pocket, but he completes it.
But they got back to where they could throw some
little control route instead of trying to throw verticals because
you let him get out and run nineteen yards and
instead of being fourth and fifteen where they couldn't throw
that little out route, now it's fourth and two. So yeah,
seven carries fifty three yards and he had some of
(11:39):
those that kind of put things back in perspective for
the play caller.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
So big day for Daniel Jones in.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That regard, and in comparison, Michael Pennix had one rush
for minus one yard. So there's been a lot of
talk about that, guys from local media, I think national
media on whether or not Michael needs to get out
more because he's got that ability. I think Michael wants
to be a throwing, pocket passing quarterback, and we have
seen a couple of times when he has slipped out
(12:06):
and he's made some things happen, and you don't necessarily
want to say, let's turn him into a running quarterback.
It's just use it when the situation calls for it.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Sure, Yeah, his choices, it's choices shock.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's not about having the opportunity. He has the opportunity
to do it. And I'll give you guys a for instance.
We have a play where he gets out of the pocket.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
It's designed boot. He gets out of the pocket. He's
got Drake on the.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Sideline that's somewhat open for about a three or four
yard game. He's got Mooney running over route, a shallow
drag over route, probably at about eight to ten yards
and then he's got pits on a corner door the sideline.
The Colts cover it pretty good. He gets out of
the pocket. There's nobody for him. He gets out of
the pocket, he can go get five or six yards
(12:53):
and hooks slide down and now it's second and three.
But he decides to kind of throw against his arm,
tries to hit Mooney.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Who's really got a guy draped all over him.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
He could have maybe be called interference on the play,
but he throws a knee high throat in Mooney like
a bullet and Mooney doesn't catch it.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Now it's second and ten.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Those are decisions that he has got to get over.
He's got to go make the decision. I don't have
anything here except this, and this is acceptable. I'm going
to go get seven or eight and get on the ground.
He could have easily done that. And there's probably four
or five of those every game that that's part of
his growth. And again, young quarterback to what twelve starts
(13:32):
in his career, eleven starts in his career, He's got
to get to some of that state.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It'll be interesting. And though I would love to better
pick his brain to see what his mindset is on
those particular type of plays. I remember when I played
in college, when I was here with the Falcons, the
number one rule was when you come out on boot,
you have to make sure that they feel like you
obviously can take off. You got to attack the line
of scrimmage so that they will come up. But the
(13:56):
number one rule is attack the line of scrimmage first,
and here comes something else open. But I would love
to know, because, like you mentioned, it's something that we've
seen in three or four games where you got opportunity
to pick up four or five yards and may not
seem like much, but like you mentioned, go from second
and ten to I mean first and ten to now
you got second and six, second and five. Now things
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are a little bit easier. It gets to okay, now
we're a little bit better on third down because our
third down is that's seventh plus like we've been in
for a long time, and that's a whole nother issue
as well. But I think that kind of stuff can
also help your offense as well when you start getting
to those later down situations.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
I mean, Morris wants to barbecue. They want to barbecue
the offensive coordinator. Yep, well you know what, my job's
held a lot easier if you go get me six
or seven on that play, no doubt, as opposed to
let's line up on second and ten.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, and Rahee Morris has mentioned it on multiple occasions
that we're playing in third and long too many times, Like,
it doesn't matter what level you're playing at. Again, if
you constantly have to convert third and ten, third and twelve,
third and thirteen, it's it's gonna be a challenge, especially
in the National Football League. How defenses and players are
just so good. My key was the defense causing chaos
(15:05):
and arch you kind of talked about this already, and
they caused chaos. Seven sacks for pressure, a two turnovers,
nine tackles for lost, couple of prospect breakups in this game.
They did a lot of really good things and you
want to say, you want to put a check mark
by it, But when you lose the game and they
run the way that they did on the defense, it's
(15:25):
hard to find any It's hard to say, yeah, it's great, Well.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I mean it is. It's positive. You can build off
of it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
You want to continue to get pressure on the quarterback,
you want to create turnovers, but when it's in a
losing effort, it's just kind of hard to be excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Right, So I think you're you.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
I think that's a great it was a great idea
as far as what you want to do, and you
did it.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
You said that. Yep, I'm gonna ask you this rack.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
You you've got your the young the two young players
on the edge are starting to come of age really quickly.
I mean, Pierce and Walker are coming right dorless inside
essentially a rookie in Mike is come making some stuff
you played. I mean they're common right, and so do
you believe I do, But I want to hear what
(16:09):
do you believe that what you're doing wrong defensively? And
again there's a lot going on, right, I think you're
still eight or ninth or tenth overall defense are fixable
to where the next week you can be marketably better
in some of the areas you made mistakes.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean I think a lot of especially when
you when you talk about the explosive plays. Usually what
happens is it's one thing. It's like somebody forgot they're contained,
they got washed inside, or it was one mistackle or
it was a missed assignment some but one person missed assignment.
That's why we always talk about like the difficulty in
the game of football is eleven players have to operate
(16:48):
efficiently at the same time in order to have success,
and sometimes one mistake on of play, whether it's offensively
or defensively, can turn into those game breaking plays.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
And so so yeah, it's and the.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Other thing I hear from Raheem Morrison, and he's talking
a lot about offense, but you could say this about defense.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Too, is it's it's execution. It's just getting the job done.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Like a lot of times people are there to make
the play and you just don't make the play, like
the touchdown that Jonathan Taylor had, Like Jesse Bates was there. Yeah,
you got to give Jonathan Taylor credit. He made a
great move, he was there, Jesse Bates was there, just
didn't make the play right. And so, I mean that
was that final drive they were driving down the I mean,
oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
At that point.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
But I'm just you know, not to give an example,
but to point yes, it's it's things that can be fixable,
but a lot of times it's just one little breakdown.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And all of a sudden somebody's out the gate and
you're looking.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
At it exposive.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, to your point, let's go back the Pierce touchdown.
They go two plays ninety five yards, had a dope.
They're playing quarters, okay, and so quarters means you got
for the layman fan out there, the quarters is you
got four guys playing what essentially is an umbrella. Look,
but they're playing quarters of the field. So so how
do you attack that is a lot of times in
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post or double posts to try to pull one guy
out and get it isolated. Well, there's a learning process
that goes into the young safety. Watts is on the
same side of the field with the corner, and so
they run a post and a dig. Okay, so which
is an in round. So Warren they stacked and they
run a post on the corner. The corner's playing outside
(18:23):
technique and Warren, the tight end runs an in rount
at about twelve yards, and so the safety hesitates even
though there's nothing threatening Jesse And in fact, if you
look at the tape, Jesse goes like this, I got
him to free up Watts, but he hasn't seen it enough.
And this is what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Young guys. Developing. Watts bites on it just for acount,
and that's all you need is a quarterback. I've got
a post on an outside technique corner.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
I'm taking the shot because I can throw it over
the top of the safety and sure enough Watts tries
to get out of there, but he can't get there
in time.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Perfect throw. I point the football with the big receiver.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
It's a touchdown that can be fixed because now all
of a sudden, I've seen it right shock a young guy,
and so he and Jesse are talking saying, listen, you
see this. You got to look at the other side
of the field. You can't just be so locked on
your side. If there's nobody threatening me on my side
of the field, I'm going to take that guy because
he's coming in my zone. Now he's leaving your quarter
to come in my quarter, and I got him, yep.
(19:23):
So your you keep getting the hell out of there
so you can protect the corner on that and that post.
That's what I'm talking about. What you're talking about about
run fitting and being in the right place the run fits.
That's what you can I think you can exponentially be better,
especially when young players see that kind of stuff. Oh okay,
that's what they can do to me, you know, and
I think that that's something they'll they'll improve on immediately.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, And I think that's the you know, you could
say what you want about Daniel Jones that he's not,
you know, an upper echelon NFL QB. But that's the
difference is in the college game to the NFL game
is sometimes shock the reads get simplified to the point
to where it's like, all right, here's the concept. You're
reading this safety like you see a hesitation, boom, cut
it loose right, and then all of a sudden, if
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you see him drop back, then you go to number two,
then you go to the tight end, then you come
to the checkdown whatever. But that's what I think the
average fan doesn't understand is that these guys are making
these decisions literally in the snap of a finger. But
it's just that hesitation that Arch talked about. As soon
as you see it, boom, you know you got.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It and you're talking about a hesitation. Here is an
example as well on the other side of where the
hesitation throws you off or whether the Falcons did a
really good job with disguising the sack fumbled by James Pearce.
They got seventy guys with a lot of scrimmers. Jesse
Bates is the outside guy on a line of scrimmage.
It looks like he's going to rush. So Daniel Jones
is like, okay, I see him rushing. They obviously they
(20:44):
have more guys than we can blow. They got five
guys in the protection. You got Jonathan Taylor, who's gonna
go right out here on the right side.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Run a little screen.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jesse Bates peals on the screen. Danie Jones wants to
throw the screen, but now it's covered. He has to
hesitate that little hesitation. James Pearce is the free guy
off the backside. Guess what, It goes to sack fumble.
So that's how you talking about how quickly they hesitated,
how quickly you see things days only the mindset. Okay,
I know I'm hot, I gotta get rid of this football.
But as he gets ready to go to football, Bass right,
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the guy who looks like he's about to blitz because
you look at Jesse Base on the play hill, Oh,
he's repped up like he's coming snap at the ball.
He peels. Dan just looks to his right, Oh, I
can't throw that. By the time he hesitates to come back,
boom sack fumble the other way around. So that's how
quickly you're talking about a small hesitation or think you
knowing what a defense is going to do, can turn
into a play that works bell for the Falcons.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
So let's kind of talk a little bit more. I've
got again, I've got the two quarterbacks here, and talk
a little bit about these offensive inconsistencies. And sometimes Rahie
Morris always says stats are for losers, but there's I
look at him a lot because I think it tells stories,
trends where you're going. And the thing that I looked
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at last night that was troubling to me was that
Michael Pennix has got a fifty eight point eight percent
completion rate this year.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I looked and I.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Believe that there's only two quarterbacks that have played regular time. Okay,
not just the random fill in guy, but Dylan Gabriel
and cam Ward are the only two that are below
him as far as completion rate. And even if you
go back to last year, guys, he's been around a
fifty eight percent passer. That's not going to help you
win football games. So to my two quarterbacks here, Raheem
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Morris is always talking about we got to execute, we
got to stay out a third and long. All those
would help all this out. How do they get Michael
And I'm not saying that he's got to be a
seventy five percent completion rate passer, that's unrealistic in the
National Football League, But sixty three to sixty five to
sixty seven is it helps you win football games?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
How do they get him their arch?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Well, a lot of things have to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
And I asked you about that question defensively because I
feel like there are some pretty quick learned things that
you can fix things and you can be dramatically better
than next week. This one is a little bit more complicated,
and this one depends on guys around him making plays.
Kyle Pitts runs an over route on the first play
of the game and Pinnix puts.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
The ball right on him.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's a seventy yard touchdown, catch the ball, he drops
the football. Okay, you get a two man twist up front,
something that you have in practice every day. Two it's
a TT stunt. The two tackles twist we don't pick
it up. It's a four man pass rush and Pinnix
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has got a guy right here in his face. What
are you wanting to do? You want him to throw
it away? There's another incompletion. Pinnix gets out of the
pocket on the boot leg like I talked about and
tries to shove it in to Mooney take off. Yep, Okay,
there's another incompletion. So I just talked about three incompletions.
You add that into maybe four or five other plays
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where he could have made a better throw. I mean,
Kyle wins on a fade, it's a touchdown. Throw it
out there to him. If he gets it to him,
it's a walk in touchdown. He makes some mistakes that
add to it. My point is that there's not one
thing you point out and say, hey, Michael, you need to
take the higher percentage throw, which he can make better decisions.
Let's not throw the fade on on third and six.
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Let's work something a little bit more, or on first down.
If we don't see anyth down, the Philli's drop it off.
You know, you can work on that kind of stuff,
But shak it. It's a myriad of things that are
going on the people around him have got to play
better to allow him to do this.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
And then the one that you talked about the pits.
I mean, yeah, he could have made a better throw,
but dude, I would also say, you got to go
get the ball, right, Like I think Kyle Pitts is
one of the most athletic and physically imposing players, Like
I just don't feel like he made a great effort
to go get that ball, Like go reach over the
top of him and take it off the top of
his helmet, right, you long enough, you're athletic enough. Like
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that's the type of plays we saw it last week
with Drake London, like made three really difficult can tested catches.
Seemingly does that all the time. We've mentioned this before,
like your quarterback's not always gonna throw a perfect throw.
Sometimes you gotta go bail them out, like you got
to go make an even better catch to keep the
drive going to score a touchdown, whatever the case may be.
Is there anything else that you're seeing with Michael Pennix
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that can help them just get a little bit more efficient.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I think there's a good job explaining a couple plays
where you're like, Okay, there's easy plays where you can
get to find some easy completion, and then there are
some ones where you gotta flat out and say you
got to hit the route. There's some where you got
free access. You're throwing an out route to Mooney, or
you're throwing a dig routing the seals. Maybe maybe you
guys haven't worked together all the time, but there are
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plays that are there you just gotta hit. And I
think ultimately he'll turn the tape on and he'll that's
on me. I gotta hit that one. And I think
that comes back to the maturity of Michael PENNOCKX and
here he'll say that in the film room. Probably won't
come out, you know, in the public. But there are
just plays that are out there that you can have
and then Arch I love for you to to dive
in it with me. But there's also the conversation of
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what's happening below the waists. There are a lot of
things that people talk about, Hey, the feet work is
not there. Some people talk about, hey, sometimes when he's
throwing to his left, he don't get it all the
way open, and that causes issues as far as your accuracy.
But then there's the naysayers or there's people who say,
you know what, there are guys around the league, like
a Matthew Stafford who his feet are everywhere, but the
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ball is on point and sometimes when you have a
strong arm like these both those guys have. You've made
those throws a thousand times without stepping into it. You
made that throw a thousand times without freaking step into
your target and get your belly to where it's supposed
to be and all this kind of stuff. But then
when it becomes an issue like it is now, that's
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when it starts to get really blown out of proportion,
and hey, maybe there's some things going on downstairs that's
causing the inaccuracy. So Artona if it's a big deal
to you, but it's something as a quarterback that I
pay tend to as well, because I was the guy
who at times footwork wasn't as good as it should be,
and ultimately it was why you were inaccurate or why
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throws weren't on time or one point, because your feet
usually tell you where to go to hitch here, hitch there,
or coming out on time, or you know, just stepping
to your target as a big part of it too.
So I don't know if that is something that you
see as well that says, okay, maybe that's a part
of it, or maybe it's just you know, also, he
just got to hit that throw.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It is.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I think it's paramount Shock. What you're talking about is
a critical piece to taking some of the inaccuracies, some
of the things that he's doing that he can improve
on dramatically and bring his feet with him. The problem
is is, you guys are blessed. Shock had a monster arm, okay,
and that Pennix has a big arm YEP, Matt Stafford
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monster arm. I didn't have that. My arm was more
like Montana's arm. I wish I could have thrown it
like Joe Montana, but I had to move my feet
a little bit more to make some of the throws
or not even make them at all, and I end
up taking a sack or trying to get out because
I knew I couldn't make that throw. You guys know
you can make the throw probably six out of ten times.
What happens those other four times it's either incomplete or
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I put the ball in harm's way because I didn't
square my feet up to make the throw. And so
I think you're dead on he's now The Matt Stafford
argument has no water with me. Okay, what year is
this for Matt Stafford? Okay, I guarantee you go back
sixteen years ago. Matt Stafford's making the same throws at
Michael Pennix has thrown.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It ain't working out true, But now he understands.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
And this is what I keep talking about. I know
you have you guys who both talked about as a
young player, whether you're Jalen Walker you're Michael Pennix. I
gotta figure out what I can get away with at
this level and what I can't. And he's still figuring
that stuff out. So he's gonna get better, but we
need other guys around him to make up for some
of those inefficiencies by making plays around him.
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and conditions apply. Shock, wasn't it seems like it wasn't
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too long ago. Falcons had a bye week comeback to
get a big win over Buffalo, sitting at three and two,
and since then they've lost four straight games. So now's
where I want you to take off your player helmet
and I want you to put on your coaching cap.
And how does Atlanta turn this thing around?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Shock?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Like? How do they?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Because it's easy to sit here and talk about playoffs, right,
but like we're three and six, Like, you gotta work
on getting one win, you gotta work on trying to
put together a winning streak.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
How does that happen for Atlanta?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know what? I think? Ultimately it's hard because you're
you're sitting here at three and six and you say,
all right, you gotta find a way. And I think
for me, you look at some of the small things
that we've already talked about, and it's details it's the
small nuances within your game. You mentioned it when we
came on. The one eleventh part of it, I think
is huge. I think we focus a lot on not
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just up talking about us. I'm talking about just fans
and generally talking about everything that's going on the whole
entire team. But I think when you get inside the team,
it's about the one guy. It's about you know whoever's playing.
You know that that that that that that left tackle,
and you got to make sure that you know, hey,
you're blocking this guy come off the edge. You gotta
do your one eleventh job. I think that's what it
comes down to, ultimately, the details of doing small things
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that's gonna help you win ball games. Uh, when you
get outside of yourself and you try to do more
than what's asked of you, I think that's where you've
gotten in a little bit of trouble. And this is
a point in a season where each guy, and we
mentioned last week, you gotta go look at the mirror
and say, man, am I doing everything possible to help
this team win. If I'm a veteran, am I doing
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everything possible to help one of my young guys come
along A little bit faster. Is there anything I could
do when I come in and watch more film. Can
I pull a guy to the side and say, you know,
I saw this, I saw that? Or is it just me?
Do I have to find ways to get better? No?
To me, you can't get the entire team better unless
each guy fundamentally finds out how they can improve this team.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And I think the other thing that is reality. It's
not an excuse, but it's reality is for the majority
of the season, you have two rookie pass rushers. You
have a rookie safety. You have a rookie Nickel who
just came back on the field, who missed a few games,
but he's still learning.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
You got J. D. Bertram and that's.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Thrown into the middle of the defense now. And yeah,
he's not a rookie, but he's kind of a rookie
when it comes to playing inside linebacker down after down
after down in the national Yes, and you got a
quarterback and Michael Pennix that's in his second year, but
his first year is a full time starter. He's learning
every single week. It's not an excuse for losses, but
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it is the reality of the situation when you have
so many young players that you're counting on to bring
production at critical positions, like your pass rushers in the
National Football League, your safeties, your defensive backs. If they're
not on the same page, if they're not communicating, bad
things can happen. Right, And if you haven't seen all
the things like you talked about with Xavier Watts, like unfortunately,
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you're gonna have to learn from some bad mistakes in
order to be better the next time around. So arch
I wanted to get your opinion, like where the Falcons
are at three and six before we get to Carolina,
Like what has to be the mind shift knowing not
only have they lost four straight, but they're coming off
a trip that they just came overseas and they don't
have a bye week. Like, guys, saddle right back up,
you got another game coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Well, you're capable of doing everything you need to do.
You just played two teams of what are combined sixteen
and four and you're right there. You could could have,
should have and maybe should have won both football games.
So if you want to think about do I belong
if there is some wavering as far as that goes,
you can throw that out the window. You know he
took Buffalo to task in this building. I mean, you've
got the ability to play with anybody in the National
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Football League. You have the ability to play in games.
I mean, you took the ball on your own nineteen
yard line, went five plays, eighty one yard shoved at
the end zone. That was in the first first quarter.
You're capable of doing it. So I've got to understand
moments of the game that are going to be critical
without getting tight and oh god, here we go. We
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got Okay, I'm going to give you guys for four.
For instance, we took over the ball at the minus
forty seven, which is our forty seven yard line. Any
minus is on our side of the fifty yard line
for the fans, minus forty seven minus forty forty four,
minus forty three, minus forty five. Okay, so you're essentially
fifty five yards from paid heart or you're what shock
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twenty or rack twenty five.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Range this day. Okay, yeah, so yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
We got one touchdown in four half field opportunities. We
got one touchdown. On the other hand, Indianapolis had a
very similar scenario. They took over at their minus forty
three minus forty one plus forty seven our side and
plus forty four, So they got four opportunities. They ended
up with thirteen points out of that we got seven.
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We lost the game by six. So opportunities, whether it's
to make a play on a deep over route the
ball hits you right in the chest and runs for
a touchdown, or you get a guy wins on a fade,
put it on him, or you get a situation where
I got a half field opportunity, I don't have to
go eighty with it, seventy five get I can go
twenty five and ruin field goal range. I've got to
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cash those opportunities in because, as it turned out, both
teams had four of them in the game, and more
often than not, there's going to be somewhere between nine
and eleven possessions in the game. If I get four
opportunities to get a half field, I have to score.
Got to capitalize, and they're not doing that, And to me,
that's the number one thing that's keeping you from winning
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against You've got three one score games. You lost on
opening weekend to Tampa. That's a game you could have won.
You the last two weekends one score games if you
win those moments, we're six and three. We're not three
and six, yep. And to me, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
How many how many points did we get them when
they had two turnovers?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, well, the fumble that we got to, the walker fumble,
you're talking about, how many end points did we get?
We ended up we had three and out on that series.
Came in and went three and in fact three four.
You had four of those short field opportunities. Three two
of the short field opportunities we went three and out.
The other one we punted, and then we got one
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where we went down and.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Scored at And that's my point is the hidden yards
in the ball game. You talk about special teams, big
returns by them, big returns by them, set them up,
you know what I'm saying. So the hidden yards in there,
the hidden yards on turnovers that you don't capitalize on.
Those are points left out there, Those are yards left
out there. Those are opportunities in the ball game that
could change a win or a loss. And we always
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told you never know what play is gonna be. But
you got turnovers in this game, you got some short fields,
you got some opportunities that you don't capitalize on, but
they did and capitalize on their short yards, hitting yards, sitting.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Which is yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
So the question you go into the meetings with and
I know we've all been in the meetings. Okay, so
let's pair it down to those four possessions where we
got short field?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
What did we do?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I guarantee you the staff is sitting down. If you
want to talk about coaching and all that kind they're
sitting down and evaluating. Okay, what did I call? What
did we do with those opportunities? Because we didn't really
do anything. We had one score for a touchdown, the
other three came up empty. Two of them are three
and outs. You get a major change of momentum with
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the play you talked about where Pierce comes off the edge,
blows him up, Walker recovers the football, and now you
got this opportunity with momentum and they're feeling bad about themselves.
You sack the quarterback in, we don't do anything.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
With it, We don't cash it in.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
The staff, I guarantee you is grinding right now on
why are we not taking advantage those half field opportunities?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, and you guys mentioned it, and I thought about
it during the game, like it was. It was not
a good enough special team's performance to win the football game.
Gave up too many returns, did not have a good
punt one time. Guys, it's field position, right, It's all
about field position. There was one play that I actually
rewound as a kickoff coverage, and I think it's not
one hundred percent sure how you say his last time, Katriano,
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the young tight ends he's playing contain on the left side,
and somehow he gets swallowed up inside and he gives
the edge like it's it's kind of contain one oh one.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
When you're in that.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Position, like, you have to leave your outside arm free
and they cannot bounce outside of you. If they do,
there's likely nobody there to make the play. Like, that's
why that position is Squeeze it down, keep your outside
arm free, and if he starts bubbing this way, you've
got to fight your way outside to turn him into
the rest of the coverage team. Right, if you get
him outside, boom, That's exactly what happens. All of a sudden,
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the guys at midfield, right, and like that's let's call
it two and a half to three first downs right there, right,
you get them tackled around the twenty five versus the
fifty or longer, like you just gave them three first
downs Like this National Football League, they're gonna make you
pay for that, right rack.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
How much is it? Like?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
How much have you been able to figure out over
the first these two seasons with the new dynamic kickoff?
Is it like a running play you just talked about
keeping my outside It almost you're almost describing like a
defensive defensive leverage defensive end where I gotta keep, I
gotta leverage, I gotta turn the play back to the inside.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, I mean, but I would say even back when
when I was playing in special teams, was the same
way when we had the old school rules. Right when
you were running down, was like you always your two
players on each side, right, the widest two. One was
your contain that was going all the way down. One
was your safety.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
So they would run down and then they would throttle
down a little bit, and their responsibility was if something
gets if they skate out, you're there. You should be unblocked.
If not, there's gonna be somebody coming late for you.
Your job is to go make that play like that's
a corner, a nickel, or a safety because that's what
they're used to, right, coming up in the box and
kind of seeing what happens and going to making a tackle.
But with this new kickoff rule, now it's like they're
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right next to the guy right when the when the
catch is being made and then you're going downfield. But
the same principle applies, right, these got to go back
into the rest of your coverage team, right, that's when
you're gonna get the tackle right away, you get him
down on the ground. So special teams has got to
be better. So let's turn the page real quick. Let's
talk about Carolina. If there's one game where we got
to have a short term memory, it's the Panthers. It
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was not one of those one score games that you
talked about it. It was an embarrassing performance that I'm
sure a lot of people in this locker room shot
are looking to avenge that loss. Okay, I'm gonna throw
this question up to you. You can take it based off
of the last performance, or you can take it based
off of what needs to happen in this game. But
how does Atlanta flush the last four weeks flush? Berlin
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Germany potentially flushed the last time they played the Panthers
and have a different result on Sundays.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It sounds cliche, but this is one of those you
go back, it was way back in week three, and
you figure out how different are you from week three?
You think about the things that led to the loss
in that ballgame, and I went back and looked at it,
and you look at the statue and you say, man,
you're dominating a lot of categories in that ballgame. You
look at the numbers and Carolina was three of eleven
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on third down. Falcons outgained them by close to almost
one hundred yards in the ball game. Yards per play,
they were four point one. You were five point h
but you had three turtles in the game, You had
two interceptions, You had a funnel in that ball game.
And when you have those kind of issues on the road,
guess what, No. Tenchs out of ten, you're probably not
gonna come out of it the right way. Obviously, Bryce Young,
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they did a really good job of just getting the
football out of his hands. This is going to be
I think a game where you come back, you're in
your own building. It's been a while since you've been back,
and ultimately, I think it just comes down to just
the pride that you have coming into this ball Hey,
you're all in tow in the division. You gotta go
win this ball game. If you fall one three and
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you fall behind, you can't get swept by the Carolina Panthers.
And then they come here and do that. I think
this is I go back to the details of your
assignment each week, and you know, you look back on
that ball game. There are a lot of things that
you can clean up. There a lot of things that
were very fixable. There are a lot of things that
if you play just a little bit better, you have
a different outcome. And of course they're gonna look back
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and say, hey, they just they went on the road
the Green Bay gotta win. But then they lose to
the Saints this past week, So you look up what
the Saints did one hundred and twenty two rush yaws
on thirty seven attempts. This is a ball game where
you can get back hit a run game. I think
it starts there. I think it takes a lot of
pressure off your quarterback. It gives you more opportunities to
push the football down the field, and it gives you
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a little opportunity. So they had one hundred and seventy
five total yards in the ballgame. They with three to
nine on third down. Again, now we're not the best
team on third down ourselves, but there's some things that
they're not doing well either. So how about we go
out and you know, continue the trend in this game
at home.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
This team is five and five, the Carolina Panthers. But
as you look at their season, like, I can't figure
them out.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah, they lost to the Patriots forty two to thirteen. Okay,
they beat the Cowboys thirty to twenty seven. They beat
the Jets barely, thirteen to six. We know the Jets struggles.
They get hammered by the Bills, okay, forty to nine.
They respond by beating the Packers on the road at Lambeau,
and then they lose to the Saints, who's got their
own issues, right. So it's like when you think you're
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talking about like you try to figure out what's what's
a team's trajectory. I don't know what the Panther trajectory is.
Arch there's a bunch of teams that like a sol
letely exactly. But I'm gonna ask you the same question, like,
what's it gonna What's what has to be different this
weekend for Atlanta Arch.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
I think that I was really pleased with how we
got back to what Raheem had talked about. Part of
the backbone of this offensive unit is to be able
to come off the ball and run the football, and
I thought you were able to two way go the
run a good bit. I was really impressed to the
left side. Shout out to Kyle Hinton, who stepped in
just his second start of his career. He's played some
forty three, forty four games in his career, but as
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a starter, just his second start. I thought he did
a really good job off that left side. In fact,
I thought we were mashing him in the run game
on the left side a good bit in the game.
So getting back to that, the numbers defy logic. Would
you say they had total offense the first time we
played him in Week three, twenty four, two hundred and
twenty four yards, They were three or thirteen on thirdy
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ten and they won thirty to nothing.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
How does that happen a few times?
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Well, the pick six right at the start of the
second made it seventeen to nothing, and at that point
we kind of shifted gears and got out a game
plan or whatever and turned down field goals because we
missed a couple of those and so it got sideways.
But the numbers would defy that. Get back to running
the football. Who you were I think you got You
got did a really good job of reidentifying that in
your run game. What was it, twenty nine run plays,
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twenty eight pass plays. Balance is whatever it takes to win.
I know it's thrown out there by the media that balanced.
Oh you ran it thirty times and you threw it
twenty that's great balance. Well, the numbers would indicate really
good balance. Twenty eight throws twenty nine. It's what it
takes to win the foot all though at fifty five times,
If that's the balance, I need to win the game.
But I think you can come back to run the football.
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The thing that you have to guard against is the
explosives have crept up on Atlanta's defense. The last couple
of weeks, gave up seven in New England. I think
you gave up twelve this week. So nineteen plays of
fifteen yards or more. Other than that, the chaos you're
talking about seven. You've got thirteen sacks in the last
two weeks. Takeaways, you're doing what you want to do.
(45:02):
Let's take away the explosive play, which means Bryce Young.
I don't think he's a great player, but he's a facilitator,
kind of a point guard, small point guard and if
you allow him to move around in the pocket, slide
and fine, guys. And we had a problem with Daniel Jones.
To me, that would be one of the keys for
me is we got to keep Daniel, keep Bryce from
(45:26):
buying time, and then let's tackle the football when they
try to run it.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, I like it. Last question, all right, this is
Shock's favorite game. Yay Shock three word key only three?
All right, I'm going first again. Yeah, because I'm giving
you guys time. Three words and only three words.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Oh yeah, it is meat. It's be y'allo like that.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Special teams win. Okay, special teams win. That means you're
buttoned up, you do what you're supposed to do on
special teams, and you win that phase of the game.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Simple, can't can't be Let's go dogs that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
I don't know what's wrong with that one. I'll go
how about play with urgency?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I like that because that talks about those short field opportunities. Right, yeah,
that's money. Come on, what.
Speaker 3 (46:17):
You got baby? I like it.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Shock actually had some efficiency with his words.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
I felt like going over. I said, I'm not gonna
do it.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Well, one of the hot players on their team has
been Rico. Down right, I'm gonna say he may let
go say no to Rico, say.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
No, no, no, Fai, I gotta retake the course.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Now I got six weeks of course, but Rico Rico, Okay, no,
no too Rico like that like that, Yeah, because I
can kind of be like a little slang.
Speaker 5 (46:51):
Too no toa.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
No, it's like no apostrophe t a. You know they're
still like, I blew it. I I failed the course.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
Today we put the bars.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Just to recap. We recapped the Falcons game over at Berlin.
Jeremy went in a number of different angles there. We
talked a little bit about what it's going to take
to get back on track, and then we talked about
the Panthers who they are, maybe what they we don't
really know who they are, but what it's going to
take for a victory.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
This Sunday, last day, go ho was the food out
there good? No.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
We stayed at the Grand Hyatt Hotel there, and they
did a really good job. And it felt like there
was a Schmorgas board all day long there because as
soon as they took the breakfast down. You guys know
you've been on these road trips, here comes the breakfast
and you're going, Wow. I could just sit here and
be eight hundred pounds. So the stuff they made for
us over there was pretty good. I didn't really delve
into the local cuisine other than I had a.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
Couple of pints.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
Went in Berlin, right, was not october Fest, so I
missed that.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Hey, remember to follow us on your podcast apps like comment, subscribe,
Give us a shout, holler at us, let us know
if you want to hear something different, want our opinions
on something other than what we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Give us a shout.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
We'll be back next week and hopefully we are recapping
the Falcons getting off the losing schnid and coming away
with a divisional win over the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5 (48:26):
I'll be half of shock Arch. I'm racking. This is
Falcon's Dollible, presented by at and T we'll see you
next time.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
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