October 27, 2025 • 26 mins
The Falcons have dropped their second game in a row, this time losing 34-10 to the Miami Dolphins. While several starters--such as QB Michael Penix Jr., WR Drake London, and LB Divine Deablo--were out, there are still wrinkles that need to be ironed out. Tori McElhaney and Terrin Waack discuss the problems they saw as well as possible solutions, and how this Falcons team can turn the page heading into a big matchup with the New England Patriots next week.
0:00 - Intro
1:06 - Is this loss worse than the Carolina loss?
6:36 - Offensive struggles
12:36 - Halftime stat, presented by Microsoft CoPilot
13:30 - Falcons' defensive performance
19:30 - Where to go from here?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
World two. He's just slip Ali start. What is of
Falcons fans?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is Tory McIlhaney joined with Tarren walk For It's
a little bit of a different duo today because Will
McFadden is currently at the hospital welcoming baby boy number
two to the McFadden family. So, honestly, great day to
be a McFadden. Maybe not so great day to be
in Atlanta Falcon. The Atlanta Falcons lost thirty four to
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ten to the Miami Dolphins, a one team, a one
win team coming into this game with their only win
coming against a team that didn't earn their first win
until today. It was kind of a clunker of a
game from start to finish, and Tara and I are
going to go through it all. If you're new here,
as a reminder, we have four topics that we split
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into four quarters six minutes apiece. When the whistleblows, we're
moving on. So, Taryn, are you ready to get into
this one as ready as I'll ever be. Okay, let's
do it. Quarter one. I kind of wanted to pose
this question to you, Taran and also to me and
our audience about was this loss to Miami worse than
the loss to Carolina when the Falcons were shut out
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thirty to zero in week three. I know you talked
to some guys in the locker room specifically, I think
Kayen Nellis had something some really important things to say
about the response to this loss. So I'm kind of
curious where you land on this.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The answer overall is kind of a yes, because we
are in week eight, right. The Carolina game was in
week three, and Kaden Ellis pointed out that that's kind
of too early to see trends or issues that you
can highlight in film and review to improve. Now that
we're in week eight, changes do have to be made,
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he said, or they can be made.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They should be made at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And it's not necessarily a whole team change from what
he was saying, it's more individual where he's going to
look at the Carolina game, the Bills game, even though
the Falcons won, which I found interesting, and then also
the forty nine Ers game, and that he's going to
see how teams directly attacked him and where he can
be better because it starts individually.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Because if all your.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Collective pieces are doing well, the hole should be as well. Yeah,
that's the thought at least. Yeah, we'll see if that happens.
But that's the reason that this feels almost worse than Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I think that where I land on this, I
kind of go both ways. I think the Carolina game
was at the time, and then in the weeks thereafter,
I did feel like it was kind of this anomaly.
I know, coaches and players and everybody was like, that's
not who we are, that's not what we do, that's
not who we're about, and we're gonna make sure it
doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And then you kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Move forward, and for the most party, it wasn't happening.
You saw some improved you saw.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Michael Pennock's playing a lot better, like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There were some things to take out of the weeks
that followed. However, the reason why kind of am leaning
towards the way that you're talking as well about this
loss to Miami feels even worse at this point in
time as the Carolina loss is because of where we
are in the season, because we know how the Bucks
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are kind of outpacing the NFC South, and how different
it feels now, especially knowing that the Falcons go on
the road over the next two weeks and play two
teams that arguably are no pun intended on the rise,
with the New England Patriots and the Indianapolis Colts. So
I think that's where I ultimately stand on it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think the only argument you.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Could make, But again, I don't even want to make
this argument because I don't even know if I fully
believe it is that well, the Falcons were without six
starters between your starting quarterback, your starting number one receiver,
your arguably most important cog in the defensive Will and
Devine Diablo along with Jayalen Walker, Billy Bowman Junior. I mean,
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there were so many absences throughout the collective team that
I'm like, Okay, yeah, you can chalk that up as
being a reason why this happened, but that feels hollow
to me, Like, and I think no one even in
the locker room, on the podium whatever postgame was even
making that excuse. But I think, if you're right, like,
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no one even says anything like that. So I think
that's why I kind of have to lean on this
may be worse. It also happened at home, in front
of your home crowd, like it just at a very
pivotal time in the season, and I just I know
we're gonna later in this podcast, we're going to go
into kind of what the next steps are for this
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team after this loss, but it's really hard to look
past the performance today.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Think another reason, especially going back to catan ellis because
he spoke the longest and the most in depth in
the locker room about this loss, is he felt there
were good plays at the defense, mate, there were a
lot of tackles for loss. They were rushing well, he said,
And he couldn't say the same things about the Panthers.
So the Falcons he thinks, played better in this game
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against the Dolphins than they did against the Panthers, but
they still lost. And that's kind of why it hurts more. Yeah,
if that makes sense, No.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I think it does. And I mean it's tough all around.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah. And I was even you know, we were talking
to Raheem Morris and Kirk Cousins at the podium after
the game, and it was interesting because Raheem Morris, you know,
I think he only talked for like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Four minutes and forty seconds. You called it, I did,
I called it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I said, I don't think this is going to be
a very long postgame podcast or postgame interview. But I
was very curious to see kind of what his reaction
was to this comparatively speaking to what it was in Carolina,
and his prevailing comment was that this was a very
humbling day.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was an all around bad day.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't think there's anything that he can kind of
I think he was very honest, and Kirk Cousins was too,
in the way that they're like, there's really nothing we
can say about that other than like there are things
that have to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Be fixed and cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And I think that's honestly where where you have to
go from here.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
The issue is you cannot call this one an anomaly, right,
It's happened one or Mulligan and now that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Oh okay, Well let's move on
to the second quarter as we talk about the Falcons
offensive issues. Now, obviously the score is thirty four to ten,
so the Falcons did get in the end zone late
in the game, but by that point it did feel.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like a little too little, too late. It was definitely
too little. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so third down conversions the Falcons were two of
eleven and in down conversions.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Or it's I.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Have a hard time with that one because as we
were talking to Kirk Cousins after the game, he made
the comment he was like, there was no stacking plays
together offensively, So whether it was run, whether it was passed,
whatever the case may be, they weren't stacking.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Good play upon good play.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And so you get to this where you go into
the fourth quarter and you haven't converted a single third down.
A big issue within that is that the run game
continues to be kind of a thorn in the Falcons side.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Over the last two weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They only had forty five yards on the ground against
Miami this weekend. Last weekend only sixty two yards on
the ground against San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I'm curious, Tarn.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Where you land on what happens when the Falcons offense
can't get the run game going.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You saw what would happen if the Falcons can't get
their run game going today. It stifles the entire offense.
And Ray Moore's did say that the run game is
the falcons lifeline. Yeah, well, they had one rushing yard
in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
One yeah, one yeah, who no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know what else to say beyond that, I
know you had one if.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's your lifeline. Yeah, I don't want that to be
my lifeline, right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, because it doesn't feel as though that's anything of
which you can build upon.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And it's so shocking because the stats we explained on
the Friday five Yeah, showed that the Dolphins had the
thirty second ranked run defense.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, and they were not And also, I will add
I said this on the Friday five episode that we
did before this game as well, like the Miami Dolphins
were not good against twelve personnel. Yeah, they were giving
up I think six point nine yards per play versus
twelve personnel. There are very few teams that run more
out of twelve personnel than Atlanta Falcons, and I think
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they were averaging like five point eight yards per play.
So like in terms of a matchup, and this is
something that I think you articulated well in the game breakdown,
was that if you looked at this matchup on paper,
there was no reason why the Falcons offense specifically shouldn't
have come out as the better, more efficient team, even
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though they did not have Michael Pennock Junior, who is
working through a knee injury and Drake Lendon, who is
working through a hip injury, Like, yes, those are big losses,
but you still have your entire starting offensive line, You
still have a quarterback who has thirteen years of experience.
You still have Bejeon Robinson Tyler Algaier, Like, realistically, yes,
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it's gonna pigeonhold you a little bit, but it shouldn't
have to the degree it did.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean, looking at the numbers right now, the Dolphins
were twenty five or lower when it comes to any
type of offensive ranking, right, points per game, total yards,
rush yards, pass yards, like possession an average your defense,
the Falcons defense should have exploited that. And meanwhile, the
Falcons offense is top ten and everything besides points per game,
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which came to fruition on Sunday that they should have
ran over the Falcon the Dolphins defense, right, Like, on paper,
the Falcon should have won this game.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But it's never that simple, right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, And I think that there were some things where
they were clogging down the run and then there were
some you know, miscues and miscommunication with the pass game.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There were a couple.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Times where Kirk thought that the receiver that he was
targeting was gonna go run his route farther downfield. And
he stops and turns back like I think that happened
like with David Seals coming out of halftime. It happened
with Caderill Hodge a little later in the game. So
there were some moments too where there was It's not
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like there's one issue offensively that we can point to
within this game to be like, oh, yeah, if they
have done this, then it would have been a completely
different game. Like no, like they couldn't run the ball,
they were having a hard time connecting via the pass it,
they weren't stringing drives together. The only and this was
the moment too that I thought was the epitome of
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what the Falcons were doing offensively was when it was
that it was that drive. And you'll have to remind
me when exactly was. I think it was in the
second quarter or the third quarter when they were able
to finally get closing in on the red zone because
of a thirty nine yard defensive pass interference call followed
by a seventeen yard bajon Robinson's.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Screen or run.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But it is like the first time that they got
in the red zone, third quarter, third quarter, first time
that they got in the red zone, and then Bjon
Robinson on the next Carrie fumbles the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And Bajon hadn't fubbled the ball since Week fifteen of
twenty twenty three. His rookie season, he had five hundred
and fifty six straight scrimmage touches without a laws fumble,
which tie for the second longest by a Falcons player
since nineteen ninety one. He has fixed those issues because
if I remember correct, he had a few fumbles his
rookie year and it was a big, big point of
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emphasis for him moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, I think so, And I think like that was
something that as I was thinking about this game, like
that was the moment where I felt like, oh, that
that's the epitome of these offensive issues. Like the Falcons
got a break, they finally get it into the twenty,
inside the twenty, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, nope,
there goes the ball, there goes possession.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, and then the Dolphins scored.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, of course they did the right Yeah, they did
put points, points on the board, points on the board.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So we're gonna move on to our halftime and this,
in case anyone is curious, This podcast is brought to
you by Microsoft co Pilot and this halftime stat has
been curated by them. The Falcons had eleven total first
downs today. That was tied for their fewest in a
game over the last eighteen seasons. Since two thousand and eight,
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there have been three other instances of the Falcons it's
only accounting for eleven total first downs, and that's comparatively
speaking to the Miami Dolphins, who I think had twenty
four total first downs, and I think six of the
falcons eleven first downs came in the fourth quarter, when
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it's kind of like you gotta have it and you're
throwing the ball downfield like that is not sustainable. You
want to look to a reason why the Falcons lost
this game, it's like, well, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Moving the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So as we move on to the third quarter, I
do think that we need to talk about this defense.
It kind of felt like an uncharacteristic performance from this group.
I know that they're coming off of a game in
which Christian McCaffrey wrote even Christian McCaffrey level records, but
that was kind of the expectation I think a little
bit for that game. Specifically, this was a Miami offense
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that has I mean, for lack of a better word,
struggled mightily over the course of the first half of
this season and have had so many offensive issues to
attack of. Iloa has spoken ad nauseum about the issues
that they have. But they were able to move the ball.
They were able to get some chunk yardage. They were
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able to take advantage of some defensive pass interference calls,
which is something that this secondary is not necessarily known
for committing. I'm curious, Tarn, like, what was your main
takeaway from this defensive performance as it stood.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I know, with the offense, we just said we can't
blame the players who were missing, So I'm not blaming
the defensive issues on players who are missing, but you
can't talk about the defense without talking about who was
missing exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It was a roster of big names.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, So as we know, Jalen Walker, Billy Bowman Junior
have been out for a couple games. I think Billy
Bowman Junior this is now his third game. He has
a hamstring injury. Jalen Walker a growing issue.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's kind of been since training training camp. So those
two were out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
They have not but they've not been there for the
last two times two games at least. But the Falcons
were also missing Zach Harrison, who has become a very
important piece of that interior defensive line. I think he
going into this game was leading the Falcons in sacks,
so yes, so he That's a big miss that I
think was honestly overshadowed with all of the other pieces.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That weren't there.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But the main one that we have to talk about,
which we talked about in the first quarter and in
the intro, is that the Falcons did not have Divine
Diablo and so JD Bertrand got the start and it
was very obvious. Tarn and I literally looked at each
other probably within the first twelve plays for Miami between
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their first couple of drives, and we were like, Oh,
they are picking on JD Bertrand, whether in the run.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Or the pass, they're bullying for JD.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, And I think, like, I mean, I don't blame them, No,
that's just that's called a there's a plan of attack.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, it's a game plan, offensive game plan or offensive
game plan.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But what.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I'm surprised and I'm curious your thoughts on this when
Jeff Olberg said he was going to do a bi
committee approach to replace divine Diablo.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't feel like we saw that today.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
No, I didn't necessarily outside of they they did rotate
Ronnie in who just recently got elevated to the active roster.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Ronnie Harrison. Yes, yeah, sorry, I just said Ronnie like buddies.
We're buddies. Yeah, but no from the Jersey Shore. Weird weird.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But no, I he did come in on a couple
of third down packages kind of as a big safety look.
It wasn't like they rotated j. D. Bertrand out for
him like j D. Bertrand.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He was in. He was in the whole time. So
it was a.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Bit less of a bi committee approach than I originally thought,
because I mean, you know, we talked all week. How
I was like, Okay, you got DeMarco Helens, you could
do some stuff with elevating Ronnie. You have him, you
have DiAngelo alone. You could do something with him like
jo Josh Woods if you need you know, a thumper
or somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I felt like there were a wide range of options
that the Falcons had if they wanted to do something
a bit more creative in terms of personnel. But they
chose not to outside of Ronnie coming in every you know,
every so often, right, And I'm curious to see how
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much if that changes at all, because you know, you're
not going to have Divine Diabolo for at least three
more games.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Right, because he's on injured reserve officially as of Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, so you can count technically this Sunday's loss that
last two, yeah, to that, you know, first game that
you have to miss out of four if you're on IR.
But I don't know, Like I'm curious. I'm curious to
see where it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
A plan of mine already is to ask Jeff ulbrick
on whenever he speaks this week why it wasn't a
bi committee, just out of curiosity. Hey, if you fully
believe in JD, more power to you make that decision.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's on you, Jeff. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I'm curious if again, especially against these two opponents
that you have coming up with the Patriots and with
the Colts, specifically the Colts and how much success they're
having running the ball, specifically with Jonathan Taylor, Like I
am worried about how this Divine Diablo absence is going
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to continue to roll on until you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Get him back.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, I agree, because I don't know if what we
saw against the Miami Dolphins this afternoon is enough confidence
in J. D. Bertrand or whoever else the Falcons decide
to throw out there. I don't know, and I don't
I think that you saw Miami take advantage of those
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one on one moments that JD. Bertrand had against a
tight end or a running back coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like there were just some moments. And of course I
haven't watched any.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Film, but like yet, I'm only going off of our
view from the press box. But I have to imagine
that there has to be some evolution in the way
that the Falcons are working out their inside linebacker corps
or not even.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just the inside linebacker corps defending the run.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, that too, and we've known that to be a
big question mark for this defense over the course.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Of eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, all right, well we have one more quarter for
you guys, and then we'll get you out of here.
So Taren, I've posed this question three times four times
as we've been sitting here talking about this game, because
there is a part of me that's just like I
don't really know there what else there is to say
about this game specifically and this performance specifically. So where
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do the Falcons go from here? Like?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where what do they do?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Knowing you have the Patriots on deck, knowing you have
a trip to Germany to face the Colts, knowing that
you come back and you have a division game thereafter
like this, this next three You needed this win for
all of the reasons that we've said previously, like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That you should win this game. Playoff teams win this game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But we're now going into a three week stretch that's
going to be tough sledding and on the road for
a significant amount of time.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah. Cool, I mean it's a tough question.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I don't have the answer to that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think of the locker room, both from the team
side and the external side, about the questions that are
just being asked. Questions are now starting to be asked about, Okay,
why are you so inconsistent? Like Carolina is no longer anomaly?
Like today proves that you can do that flop again
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and again. Who knows how many times this might happen.
That's probably one of the biggest highlights from the locker room.
Another one is the team sticking together, Like those questions
are starting to be asked, like how do you keep
the locker room together after a loss like this or
after the two losses like the past two, and the
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team is answering those questions the right way, like we
have a great locker room, we have great teammates, like
we all believe in one another, like it's going to
be okay, So there's no divide in that sense. And
then another question that's being asked is how do you
handle it? Like how do you handle these losses? And
the Falcons mentality and they're sticking to it is you
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flush it. They said it after Carolina. You got to
move on. You got to move on. Every Sunday is
a new Sunday. It's one week at a time. You
can't let them bleed into each other. Whether or not
that's the right approach, I don't know. Everyone is different,
like everyone handles losses, wins, how to go about an
entire eighteen week, seventeen game season differently. But at this
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point they're sticking to the exact same same kind of
wording that they used after Carolina. We gotta flush this
and we gotta move on, Yeah, and I'd.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Say you got to get back on track, you know,
like that has to be priority number one. You saw
what you could do, who you could be against the
Buffalo Bills or a little bit against the Washington Commanders.
But since since then, since those two games, it kind
of has been a bit of a hit or miss
over the last two weeks. And so I'm curious to
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see what that ultimately looks like, because we did, we
did see them bounce back after that Carolina loss, but
then it tapers off and it is one of those
things where it kind of does feel heee. Morris talks
all the time about this emotional roller coaster, getting off
the emotional roller coaster. And I know what this league is.
The league wants there to be an emotional roller coaster.
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It wants any given Sunday that any team can be
anybody else on any given day.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Today proved it. Today proved that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And I'm sitting here too wondering about the injuries and
how long we're gonna be discussing those things as well.
Because the Falcons do not have a bye week coming up,
you know, like they.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Do say they are in the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're coming off of their bye week two weeks ago,
so that they're in the thick of it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They're in the thick of it, and it's not getting
any easier.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
If anything, it's getting more difficult to go from a
West coast trip last week to Okay, you're going up.
You're going out to Germany in two weeks time. So
you have all of this, plus your starting quarterback is
working through a knee injury, your starting number one receiver
is working through a hip injury. You have all of
these defensive players that are questionable have been out for
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a couple of weeks, like we'll continue to be out.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
For a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
There are so many variables with those injuries that do
It's almost like, do you remember we were talking about
the Washington Commanders and that week and this year. Yes,
And we were talking about the Washington Commanders, and then
a couple weeks later we were talking about the San
Francisco forty nine and we were kind of saying, how
according to which individuals are up and who are available,
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you get a very different team.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
The forty nine ers felt like that specifically, We're like, oyeah,
you're either getting that. I hate saying this, but the
a team or the be team. Right, yeah, you're because
of how many starters were injured.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Exactly and who had missed a bunch of time. And
it almost has felt like, Okay, that's what the conversation
around the Falcons could be for other teams looking in
about like who which Falcons team are we going to get?
If you're the Patriots, Like which Falcons team is going
to show up to Gillette? If you're the Colts, which
Falcons team is going to make the trip to Germany? Like?
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And again if you're the Bucks, the Saints, the Panthers,
which Falcons team are you going to see?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And we're gonna find out actually rather soon, because after
New England, after Indianapolis slash Germany, you have the Panthers
and Saints back to back, right then you have two
games and then the Bucks and then two games and
then the Saints. Like it's very NFC South heavy loaded
in the second half of this season.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, gosh, we don't even halfway through. No, we are not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And so I think that is why this next stretch
of games, Like I know, we talked about this game
against Miami being a must win for the reasons of
like you are fundamentally, should should be a better team
and you should win this game, and then they didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So now it just.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Absolutely turns up the fire to kind of make it
a must win. These these games coming down the wire
over the course of the next month and a half.
Gotta win them, there's no option. Well that is our
final quarter. Thank you everybody for joining us. I know
that probably wasn't the most fun game to go over
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if you were a Falcons fan, but I appreciate you
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over the course of the next week, and we will
see you win. The Falcons face the New England Patriots
next week at the Leete Stadium.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Thanks guys,
World two. He's just slip Ali start. What is of
Falcons fans?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is Tory McIlhaney joined with Tarren walk For It's
a little bit of a different duo today because Will
McFadden is currently at the hospital welcoming baby boy number
two to the McFadden family. So, honestly, great day to
be a McFadden. Maybe not so great day to be
in Atlanta Falcon. The Atlanta Falcons lost thirty four to
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ten to the Miami Dolphins, a one team, a one
win team coming into this game with their only win
coming against a team that didn't earn their first win
until today. It was kind of a clunker of a
game from start to finish, and Tara and I are
going to go through it all. If you're new here,
as a reminder, we have four topics that we split
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into four quarters six minutes apiece. When the whistleblows, we're
moving on. So, Taryn, are you ready to get into
this one as ready as I'll ever be. Okay, let's
do it. Quarter one. I kind of wanted to pose
this question to you, Taran and also to me and
our audience about was this loss to Miami worse than
the loss to Carolina when the Falcons were shut out
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thirty to zero in week three. I know you talked
to some guys in the locker room specifically, I think
Kayen Nellis had something some really important things to say
about the response to this loss. So I'm kind of
curious where you land on this.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The answer overall is kind of a yes, because we
are in week eight, right. The Carolina game was in
week three, and Kaden Ellis pointed out that that's kind
of too early to see trends or issues that you
can highlight in film and review to improve. Now that
we're in week eight, changes do have to be made,
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he said, or they can be made.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
They should be made at this point.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
And it's not necessarily a whole team change from what
he was saying, it's more individual where he's going to
look at the Carolina game, the Bills game, even though
the Falcons won, which I found interesting, and then also
the forty nine Ers game, and that he's going to
see how teams directly attacked him and where he can
be better because it starts individually.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Because if all your.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Collective pieces are doing well, the hole should be as well. Yeah,
that's the thought at least. Yeah, we'll see if that happens.
But that's the reason that this feels almost worse than Carolina.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I think that where I land on this, I
kind of go both ways. I think the Carolina game
was at the time, and then in the weeks thereafter,
I did feel like it was kind of this anomaly.
I know, coaches and players and everybody was like, that's
not who we are, that's not what we do, that's
not who we're about, and we're gonna make sure it
doesn't happen again.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
And then you kind of.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Move forward, and for the most party, it wasn't happening.
You saw some improved you saw.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Michael Pennock's playing a lot better, like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
There were some things to take out of the weeks
that followed. However, the reason why kind of am leaning
towards the way that you're talking as well about this
loss to Miami feels even worse at this point in
time as the Carolina loss is because of where we
are in the season, because we know how the Bucks
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are kind of outpacing the NFC South, and how different
it feels now, especially knowing that the Falcons go on
the road over the next two weeks and play two
teams that arguably are no pun intended on the rise,
with the New England Patriots and the Indianapolis Colts. So
I think that's where I ultimately stand on it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think the only argument you.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Could make, But again, I don't even want to make
this argument because I don't even know if I fully
believe it is that well, the Falcons were without six
starters between your starting quarterback, your starting number one receiver,
your arguably most important cog in the defensive Will and
Devine Diablo along with Jayalen Walker, Billy Bowman Junior. I mean,
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there were so many absences throughout the collective team that
I'm like, Okay, yeah, you can chalk that up as
being a reason why this happened, but that feels hollow
to me, Like, and I think no one even in
the locker room, on the podium whatever postgame was even
making that excuse. But I think, if you're right, like,
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no one even says anything like that. So I think
that's why I kind of have to lean on this
may be worse. It also happened at home, in front
of your home crowd, like it just at a very
pivotal time in the season, and I just I know
we're gonna later in this podcast, we're going to go
into kind of what the next steps are for this
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team after this loss, but it's really hard to look
past the performance today.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Think another reason, especially going back to catan ellis because
he spoke the longest and the most in depth in
the locker room about this loss, is he felt there
were good plays at the defense, mate, there were a
lot of tackles for loss. They were rushing well, he said,
And he couldn't say the same things about the Panthers.
So the Falcons he thinks, played better in this game
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against the Dolphins than they did against the Panthers, but
they still lost. And that's kind of why it hurts more. Yeah,
if that makes sense, No.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I think it does. And I mean it's tough all around.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah. And I was even you know, we were talking
to Raheem Morris and Kirk Cousins at the podium after
the game, and it was interesting because Raheem Morris, you know,
I think he only talked for like.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Four minutes and forty seconds. You called it, I did,
I called it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I said, I don't think this is going to be
a very long postgame podcast or postgame interview. But I
was very curious to see kind of what his reaction
was to this comparatively speaking to what it was in Carolina,
and his prevailing comment was that this was a very
humbling day.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
It was an all around bad day.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I don't think there's anything that he can kind of
I think he was very honest, and Kirk Cousins was too,
in the way that they're like, there's really nothing we
can say about that other than like there are things
that have to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Be fixed and cleaned up.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And I think that's honestly where where you have to
go from here.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
The issue is you cannot call this one an anomaly, right,
It's happened one or Mulligan and now that's it.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. Oh okay, Well let's move on
to the second quarter as we talk about the Falcons
offensive issues. Now, obviously the score is thirty four to ten,
so the Falcons did get in the end zone late
in the game, but by that point it did feel.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like a little too little, too late. It was definitely
too little. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so third down conversions the Falcons were two of
eleven and in down conversions.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Or it's I.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Have a hard time with that one because as we
were talking to Kirk Cousins after the game, he made
the comment he was like, there was no stacking plays
together offensively, So whether it was run, whether it was passed,
whatever the case may be, they weren't stacking.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Good play upon good play.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And so you get to this where you go into
the fourth quarter and you haven't converted a single third down.
A big issue within that is that the run game
continues to be kind of a thorn in the Falcons side.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Over the last two weeks.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
They only had forty five yards on the ground against
Miami this weekend. Last weekend only sixty two yards on
the ground against San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I'm curious, Tarn.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Where you land on what happens when the Falcons offense
can't get the run game going.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You saw what would happen if the Falcons can't get
their run game going today. It stifles the entire offense.
And Ray Moore's did say that the run game is
the falcons lifeline. Yeah, well, they had one rushing yard
in the first quarter.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
One yeah, one yeah, who no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know what else to say beyond that, I
know you had one if.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's your lifeline. Yeah, I don't want that to be
my lifeline, right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, because it doesn't feel as though that's anything of
which you can build upon.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And it's so shocking because the stats we explained on
the Friday five Yeah, showed that the Dolphins had the
thirty second ranked run defense.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, and they were not And also, I will add
I said this on the Friday five episode that we
did before this game as well, like the Miami Dolphins
were not good against twelve personnel. Yeah, they were giving
up I think six point nine yards per play versus
twelve personnel. There are very few teams that run more
out of twelve personnel than Atlanta Falcons, and I think
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they were averaging like five point eight yards per play.
So like in terms of a matchup, and this is
something that I think you articulated well in the game breakdown,
was that if you looked at this matchup on paper,
there was no reason why the Falcons offense specifically shouldn't
have come out as the better, more efficient team, even
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though they did not have Michael Pennock Junior, who is
working through a knee injury and Drake Lendon, who is
working through a hip injury, Like, yes, those are big losses,
but you still have your entire starting offensive line, You
still have a quarterback who has thirteen years of experience.
You still have Bejeon Robinson Tyler Algaier, Like, realistically, yes,
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it's gonna pigeonhold you a little bit, but it shouldn't
have to the degree it did.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I mean, looking at the numbers right now, the Dolphins
were twenty five or lower when it comes to any
type of offensive ranking, right, points per game, total yards,
rush yards, pass yards, like possession an average your defense,
the Falcons defense should have exploited that. And meanwhile, the
Falcons offense is top ten and everything besides points per game,
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which came to fruition on Sunday that they should have
ran over the Falcon the Dolphins defense, right, Like, on paper,
the Falcon should have won this game.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But it's never that simple, right.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, And I think that there were some things where
they were clogging down the run and then there were
some you know, miscues and miscommunication with the pass game.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There were a couple.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Times where Kirk thought that the receiver that he was
targeting was gonna go run his route farther downfield. And
he stops and turns back like I think that happened
like with David Seals coming out of halftime. It happened
with Caderill Hodge a little later in the game. So
there were some moments too where there was It's not
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like there's one issue offensively that we can point to
within this game to be like, oh, yeah, if they
have done this, then it would have been a completely
different game. Like no, like they couldn't run the ball,
they were having a hard time connecting via the pass it,
they weren't stringing drives together. The only and this was
the moment too that I thought was the epitome of
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what the Falcons were doing offensively was when it was
that it was that drive. And you'll have to remind
me when exactly was. I think it was in the
second quarter or the third quarter when they were able
to finally get closing in on the red zone because
of a thirty nine yard defensive pass interference call followed
by a seventeen yard bajon Robinson's.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Screen or run.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
But it is like the first time that they got
in the red zone, third quarter, third quarter, first time
that they got in the red zone, and then Bjon
Robinson on the next Carrie fumbles the ball.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And Bajon hadn't fubbled the ball since Week fifteen of
twenty twenty three. His rookie season, he had five hundred
and fifty six straight scrimmage touches without a laws fumble,
which tie for the second longest by a Falcons player
since nineteen ninety one. He has fixed those issues because
if I remember correct, he had a few fumbles his
rookie year and it was a big, big point of
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emphasis for him moving on.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, I think so, And I think like that was
something that as I was thinking about this game, like
that was the moment where I felt like, oh, that
that's the epitome of these offensive issues. Like the Falcons
got a break, they finally get it into the twenty,
inside the twenty, and then all of a sudden, it's like, oh, nope,
there goes the ball, there goes possession.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, and then the Dolphins scored.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, of course they did the right Yeah, they did
put points, points on the board, points on the board.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So we're gonna move on to our halftime and this,
in case anyone is curious, This podcast is brought to
you by Microsoft co Pilot and this halftime stat has
been curated by them. The Falcons had eleven total first
downs today. That was tied for their fewest in a
game over the last eighteen seasons. Since two thousand and eight,
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there have been three other instances of the Falcons it's
only accounting for eleven total first downs, and that's comparatively
speaking to the Miami Dolphins, who I think had twenty
four total first downs, and I think six of the
falcons eleven first downs came in the fourth quarter, when
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it's kind of like you gotta have it and you're
throwing the ball downfield like that is not sustainable. You
want to look to a reason why the Falcons lost
this game, it's like, well, they weren't.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Moving the ball.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So as we move on to the third quarter, I
do think that we need to talk about this defense.
It kind of felt like an uncharacteristic performance from this group.
I know that they're coming off of a game in
which Christian McCaffrey wrote even Christian McCaffrey level records, but
that was kind of the expectation I think a little
bit for that game. Specifically, this was a Miami offense
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that has I mean, for lack of a better word,
struggled mightily over the course of the first half of
this season and have had so many offensive issues to
attack of. Iloa has spoken ad nauseum about the issues
that they have. But they were able to move the ball.
They were able to get some chunk yardage. They were
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able to take advantage of some defensive pass interference calls,
which is something that this secondary is not necessarily known
for committing. I'm curious, Tarn, like, what was your main
takeaway from this defensive performance as it stood.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I know, with the offense, we just said we can't
blame the players who were missing, So I'm not blaming
the defensive issues on players who are missing, but you
can't talk about the defense without talking about who was
missing exactly.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It was a roster of big names.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, So as we know, Jalen Walker, Billy Bowman Junior
have been out for a couple games. I think Billy
Bowman Junior this is now his third game. He has
a hamstring injury. Jalen Walker a growing issue.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
That's kind of been since training training camp. So those
two were out.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
They have not but they've not been there for the
last two times two games at least. But the Falcons
were also missing Zach Harrison, who has become a very
important piece of that interior defensive line. I think he
going into this game was leading the Falcons in sacks,
so yes, so he That's a big miss that I
think was honestly overshadowed with all of the other pieces.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
That weren't there.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But the main one that we have to talk about,
which we talked about in the first quarter and in
the intro, is that the Falcons did not have Divine
Diablo and so JD Bertrand got the start and it
was very obvious. Tarn and I literally looked at each
other probably within the first twelve plays for Miami between
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their first couple of drives, and we were like, Oh,
they are picking on JD Bertrand, whether in the run.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Or the pass, they're bullying for JD.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, And I think, like, I mean, I don't blame them, No,
that's just that's called a there's a plan of attack.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, it's a game plan, offensive game plan or offensive
game plan.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But what.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I'm surprised and I'm curious your thoughts on this when
Jeff Olberg said he was going to do a bi
committee approach to replace divine Diablo.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I don't feel like we saw that today.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
No, I didn't necessarily outside of they they did rotate
Ronnie in who just recently got elevated to the active roster.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Ronnie Harrison. Yes, yeah, sorry, I just said Ronnie like buddies.
We're buddies. Yeah, but no from the Jersey Shore. Weird weird.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But no, I he did come in on a couple
of third down packages kind of as a big safety look.
It wasn't like they rotated j. D. Bertrand out for
him like j D. Bertrand.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He was in. He was in the whole time. So
it was a.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Bit less of a bi committee approach than I originally thought,
because I mean, you know, we talked all week. How
I was like, Okay, you got DeMarco Helens, you could
do some stuff with elevating Ronnie. You have him, you
have DiAngelo alone. You could do something with him like
jo Josh Woods if you need you know, a thumper
or somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I felt like there were a wide range of options
that the Falcons had if they wanted to do something
a bit more creative in terms of personnel. But they
chose not to outside of Ronnie coming in every you know,
every so often, right, And I'm curious to see how
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much if that changes at all, because you know, you're
not going to have Divine Diabolo for at least three
more games.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Right, because he's on injured reserve officially as of Saturday.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Right, so you can count technically this Sunday's loss that
last two, yeah, to that, you know, first game that
you have to miss out of four if you're on IR.
But I don't know, Like I'm curious. I'm curious to
see where it goes from here.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
A plan of mine already is to ask Jeff ulbrick
on whenever he speaks this week why it wasn't a
bi committee, just out of curiosity. Hey, if you fully
believe in JD, more power to you make that decision.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's on you, Jeff. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
And I'm curious if again, especially against these two opponents
that you have coming up with the Patriots and with
the Colts, specifically the Colts and how much success they're
having running the ball, specifically with Jonathan Taylor, Like I
am worried about how this Divine Diablo absence is going
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to continue to roll on until you.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Get him back.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
No, I agree, because I don't know if what we
saw against the Miami Dolphins this afternoon is enough confidence
in J. D. Bertrand or whoever else the Falcons decide
to throw out there. I don't know, and I don't
I think that you saw Miami take advantage of those
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one on one moments that JD. Bertrand had against a
tight end or a running back coming out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Like there were just some moments. And of course I
haven't watched any.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Film, but like yet, I'm only going off of our
view from the press box. But I have to imagine
that there has to be some evolution in the way
that the Falcons are working out their inside linebacker corps
or not even.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just the inside linebacker corps defending the run.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, that too, and we've known that to be a
big question mark for this defense over the course.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Of eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes, all right, well we have one more quarter for
you guys, and then we'll get you out of here.
So Taren, I've posed this question three times four times
as we've been sitting here talking about this game, because
there is a part of me that's just like I
don't really know there what else there is to say
about this game specifically and this performance specifically. So where
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do the Falcons go from here? Like?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where what do they do?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Knowing you have the Patriots on deck, knowing you have
a trip to Germany to face the Colts, knowing that
you come back and you have a division game thereafter
like this, this next three You needed this win for
all of the reasons that we've said previously, like.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
That you should win this game. Playoff teams win this game.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But we're now going into a three week stretch that's
going to be tough sledding and on the road for
a significant amount of time.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah. Cool, I mean it's a tough question.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I don't have the answer to that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I think of the locker room, both from the team
side and the external side, about the questions that are
just being asked. Questions are now starting to be asked about, Okay,
why are you so inconsistent? Like Carolina is no longer anomaly?
Like today proves that you can do that flop again
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and again. Who knows how many times this might happen.
That's probably one of the biggest highlights from the locker room.
Another one is the team sticking together, Like those questions
are starting to be asked, like how do you keep
the locker room together after a loss like this or
after the two losses like the past two, and the
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team is answering those questions the right way, like we
have a great locker room, we have great teammates, like
we all believe in one another, like it's going to
be okay, So there's no divide in that sense. And
then another question that's being asked is how do you
handle it? Like how do you handle these losses? And
the Falcons mentality and they're sticking to it is you
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flush it. They said it after Carolina. You got to
move on. You got to move on. Every Sunday is
a new Sunday. It's one week at a time. You
can't let them bleed into each other. Whether or not
that's the right approach, I don't know. Everyone is different,
like everyone handles losses, wins, how to go about an
entire eighteen week, seventeen game season differently. But at this
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point they're sticking to the exact same same kind of
wording that they used after Carolina. We gotta flush this
and we gotta move on, Yeah, and I'd.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Say you got to get back on track, you know,
like that has to be priority number one. You saw
what you could do, who you could be against the
Buffalo Bills or a little bit against the Washington Commanders.
But since since then, since those two games, it kind
of has been a bit of a hit or miss
over the last two weeks. And so I'm curious to
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see what that ultimately looks like, because we did, we
did see them bounce back after that Carolina loss, but
then it tapers off and it is one of those
things where it kind of does feel heee. Morris talks
all the time about this emotional roller coaster, getting off
the emotional roller coaster. And I know what this league is.
The league wants there to be an emotional roller coaster.
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It wants any given Sunday that any team can be
anybody else on any given day.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Today proved it. Today proved that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
And I'm sitting here too wondering about the injuries and
how long we're gonna be discussing those things as well.
Because the Falcons do not have a bye week coming up,
you know, like they.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Do say they are in the.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
They're coming off of their bye week two weeks ago,
so that they're in the thick of it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They're in the thick of it, and it's not getting
any easier.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
If anything, it's getting more difficult to go from a
West coast trip last week to Okay, you're going up.
You're going out to Germany in two weeks time. So
you have all of this, plus your starting quarterback is
working through a knee injury, your starting number one receiver
is working through a hip injury. You have all of
these defensive players that are questionable have been out for
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a couple of weeks, like we'll continue to be out.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
For a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
There are so many variables with those injuries that do
It's almost like, do you remember we were talking about
the Washington Commanders and that week and this year. Yes,
And we were talking about the Washington Commanders, and then
a couple weeks later we were talking about the San
Francisco forty nine and we were kind of saying, how
according to which individuals are up and who are available,
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you get a very different team.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
The forty nine ers felt like that specifically, We're like, oyeah,
you're either getting that. I hate saying this, but the
a team or the be team. Right, yeah, you're because
of how many starters were injured.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Exactly and who had missed a bunch of time. And
it almost has felt like, Okay, that's what the conversation
around the Falcons could be for other teams looking in
about like who which Falcons team are we going to get?
If you're the Patriots, Like which Falcons team is going
to show up to Gillette? If you're the Colts, which
Falcons team is going to make the trip to Germany? Like?
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And again if you're the Bucks, the Saints, the Panthers,
which Falcons team are you going to see?
Speaker 3 (24:42):
And we're gonna find out actually rather soon, because after
New England, after Indianapolis slash Germany, you have the Panthers
and Saints back to back, right then you have two
games and then the Bucks and then two games and
then the Saints. Like it's very NFC South heavy loaded
in the second half of this season.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, gosh, we don't even halfway through. No, we are not.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
And so I think that is why this next stretch
of games, Like I know, we talked about this game
against Miami being a must win for the reasons of
like you are fundamentally, should should be a better team
and you should win this game, and then they didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
So now it just.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Absolutely turns up the fire to kind of make it
a must win. These these games coming down the wire
over the course of the next month and a half.
Gotta win them, there's no option. Well that is our
final quarter. Thank you everybody for joining us. I know
that probably wasn't the most fun game to go over
(25:40):
if you were a Falcons fan, but I appreciate you
hanging with us. Make sure you like and comment and
subscribe to the Atlanta Falcons podcast network, and make sure
to follow along with all of mine and Terren's reporting
over the course of the next week, and we will
see you win. The Falcons face the New England Patriots
next week at the Leete Stadium.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Thanks guys,
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