Big Blue Kickoff Live 10/31 | Giants vs 49ers Preview

Paul Dottino and Jonathan Casillas preview the Giants vs 49ers game, talk about the running backs, and take calls from fans.

0:00 - 49ers preview

12:00 - Tracy and Singletary

26:30 - Calls

35:20 - Winning at home

44:00 - Leadership

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for today's show, we should tell you that there's no
change in the injury report if you looked at it
from Giants dot Com yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Brian Dable talked with us this morning before they just
went out to practice. He said there's no change. However,
the one item that he did add is that cordel Flott,
who was in concussion protocol, they don't think he's got
enough time to clear the protocol, which means the Giants
are going to be without both Pulse and the Debo

(01:51):
and Cordelflot for Sunday's game against the forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Let me get my hands on him.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Doctor Doom wanted to try out today, but apparently the
NFL would would not give him a waiver.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
They wouldn't let me wear my helmet like in tonio'brown.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
So two time Super Bowl champion Jonathan can see us
with us today on Big Blue Kickoff Live.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Halloween guys, and.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yes, indeed, happy Halloween, Happy Candy Day, and I hope
everybody enjoys a healthy and happy one with all of
the kids out there. But seriously, the Giants do have
a cornerback issue. Absolutely it looks as though you'll get
Jay Banks on one side. Out Green has a hamstring.
He's been a special team's demon and had a pretty

(02:44):
decent camp at corner. But because of the hammy, I
don't know if he's going to be able to go.
He hasn't practiced the last two days. I don't know
if he's going to be able to do anything this afternoon.
You could be looking at Corey Black, who played thirty
snaps the other day in Philadelphia. Questionable offensive pass interference
that was not called on the touchdown by Dodson. But

(03:07):
it's slim pickens right now, Jonathan.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, you gotta have that next man up mentality. You know.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
I literally just saw MIKEL. McFadden in the hallway walking
with the boot on, you know, recovering from the News
Frank surgery that he had. Guys have to step up,
you know, I told him, I said, I had a
Liz Frank two. You know, like injuries happened, you know,
but that's opportunities for other guys to come in and
play some meaningfully good football. You know, Corey Black, he
was on a practice squad, if I'm not mistaken, and
he got thrust it into basically the rotational lineup as

(03:36):
a defensive back for the New York Football Giants, and look,
he looked like a guy that was on a practice
squad the week before.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
To be honest, Well, the tough part for him is
that on one way, it was good. He was drafted
by the Giants and he was here old training camp
but didn't make the fifty three and the Jets poached him. Okay, well,
the Giants poached him back before the Philly game last
week because they were so thinted corner, So we got
thrown in there with like virtually no reps and he

(04:03):
played thirty raps. Brian Dabeles said today it was helpful
that he was with us throughout the spring and training
because it gave him some basis to work under. But Jonathan,
you and I both know there's nothing like being around consistently,
and the fact that he had to spend a couple
months with the jetson came back that was an issue.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
And I just go back to the opportunities because we
saw a few years ago Isaiah Hodgens got brought into
in the middle of the season and off of the
Bills practice squad, Yes, and he did some really great
things for the New.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
York That was an aberration. You don't see that offense,
you don't.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
But it happens every now and again. You know, I've
you know, being an undrafted guy, you pay attention to
the undrafted guys, not only throughout my career, but as
I've been you know, working with the Giants on the
media side of it, doing the radio stuff, I'm paying
attention to all the undrafted guys and it happens. It's
not that frequent that that it happens in a way
of Isaiah Hodgens to where he's making plays in the

(05:02):
playoffs in the same year, you know, but it's the opportunity.
And look the Giants are, you know, the record shows
they're not a good team right now, there's opportunities, especially
because of all the injuries that are happened. The defensive
backfield for the New York Giants is decimated. Right Flott
was having I think is a career year this year,
even though the statistics may not support defensively, but him individually,

(05:25):
he was having a stellar year. I think by far
his best year he's had. Next man that mentality and
it has to be one.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Of the few guys who's actually played to his max.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Yeah, most guys have underachieved on that defense.

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think when you look at
the defense as a whole, you can kind of go
man for man and it's like, have they really and
it's not only about like what we expect from them
is what they put on film themselves in years past.
And I know everybody's been talking about the Banks and
Dexter Lawrence thing, and I understand where Banks is coming from.
I don't agree with him. I don't agree with that

(05:58):
people don't respect them. I don't, But Deshah Lawrence hasn't
been dominant like we've seen in the past. And it's
not that our standard form is higher than his, No,
it's what he showed us for the last few years,
you know, and it hasn't been like that. But there
is one guy that I think a consensus that everybody
knows down his butt off is Brian Burns, And for me,

(06:20):
it sucks because when you have a guy like that,
you would think that the other guy see him battling
through injuries, fighting back literally like every game he has
some type of injury, Like since last year since he
came in, and he's tough. He barely misses any plays.
He definitely doesn't miss any games, and he's not practicing
during the week, and he's selling out. That should be

(06:41):
as much as Scataboo was. And Dart is on offense
as that energy, that should be that energy for the defense,
and I just don't see it there, Paul. That's one
of the most disappointing things for me.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't think Burns is a raw rod kind of
guy on the field. We see him do the spider
Man thing, right, the spidy thing after he gets a sack,
But he's not the kind of guy on the field,
at least my impression that is going to, you know,
getting people's faces like Brandon Jacobs used to do, like
Scataboo does, and he's so demonstrative. You know, those guys

(07:15):
were very, very demonstrative. They made you infected you, if
you will, with bursts of nuclear energy. That's not Brian Burns.
Brian Burns quietly just says I'm going to kick somebody's
butt on this play. And he goes out and he
does it, and he picks himself up off the ground.
In fact, sometimes peels himself off the ground to go

(07:38):
make the next play. To me, he's more an example guy.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yeah right, that's all I was thinking when you were
talking just now. I was thinking, that's a perfect example
of lead by example.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah right.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
And I just don't see it really carrying over to
the other guys because I don't see people giving the
effort that he's given. And I've talked about this on
the show before. The famous quote from Bill Belichick, right
was do your job. Right for me, that's only half
the battle.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yes, you do your job.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
If I'm a linebacker and I got my bigack, okay,
I did my job. But if the running back is
going out on the defensive back which is schemed to
go against him. I said this before, I don't expect
those guys to make tackles against the sa Quon Barkis
of the War, the Christian McCaffrey's of the world. I
have to do my job plus And you know who
does that on a consistent basis Number zero, Brian Burns
does that. And I just don't see it from collected

(08:28):
from the whole defense collectively. Now you see other you know,
guys making you know, extra effort plays At times, I
think Drew Phillips is a guy you know, he's a
guy that you know. He ran down to play from
the backside. He was, I don't know, thirty yards away
and he made that play at the line of scrimmage.
You see plays like that every now and again, but
Brian Burns does it every single play, and this is
what the defense need, especially when you got guys banged up.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
I've shed roll along since Brian Burns got here, but
it's emphasized this season for me. He could have played
with those throwback Giants linebackers.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Of a guy like just one of those tough, hard
nosed guys that you put him in. First of all,
he's very versatile, which I was very apprehensive at first
when they were moving him off the ball. I was like,
why is he playing off the ball as much you
could do it. He's such a good pass rusher. He's
really good off the ball ball. He can understand route combinations,

(09:24):
route concepts. He's very good in space. I haven't seen
him really miss a tackle, you know, you tell me,
I haven't really seen him miss too many tackles or
too many plays. You know, he was in the right
position and he made them play and that is beyond
the x's and those That is going beyond doing your job,
because everybody misses tackles besides Brian Burns clearly, But you know,

(09:46):
I feel like somebody has to make up for not
just the play of the guys that were lost, but
when you talk about the loss of scatabul it's not
just the tangibles that he brought on the field. It's
not just the short yardage plays and the physicality that
he brings.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
It the energy.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
It's that energy that he and and just infested in
that locker room. It's just it's just you can feel it.
You know, everything was like, like what the heck is
he doing? Like, and everybody, as a defensive guy, you're like, man,
I love that, Like I love the way he's playing,
and you have to figure out a way to replace that.
And I'm looking for the next guy up. Who is
going to be the guy? You know, is it is

(10:23):
it Corey Black? Who is it gonna be the guy
that's gonna step up and kind of, you know, put
that energy back into the locker room that's gone with Scataboo.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Okay, now the danger in that, Jonathan and you may
not agree with me, but I think you will. The
danger in that is you can't fake that. Absolutely no,
you're not that guy. It's hard to go out there
on the field and fake that and be a raw,
raw guy all of a sudden out of the blue,
because that does not infect your teammates. They will look

(10:52):
at you and say what are you doing right through you? Yeah,
for sure. So I don't know that there's another guy
like Dart and like Skataboo in that locker room who's
got that kind of swagger. I suppose to some degree
Dexter Lawrence has when he does the whole sexy dexy dance.
There's some of that and seen that really No, we
haven't seen it this year, And I don't think there's

(11:14):
any other player on the team that's got that kind
of stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, the other guy's probably been leak neighbors, but he
was gone for a while now, you know. But I'm
not looking for the exact replacement because there's no way
you can do that.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
No matter what player you fake, stuff will not fly.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
But there has to be some type of upstart and energy,
a kickstart, you know, something to get the guys going,
because you know, the way the season is going right now.
You know, a couple of weeks ago, you're you're looking,
you know, as you know, being very optimistic about what
you're seeing on film, Paul, And I'm not as optimistic
as I was just a few weeks ago. You know,

(11:50):
going into that fourth quarter of the Denver game, everything
was like, all right, this is a team that can fight,
This is a team that can probably do something starting
zero to three, you know, getting themselves out of that
deep hole that they dug themselves in. And then the
last five quarters after that it's really bad football that
they can play.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
For seven quarters, they looked like the giants we thought
they were going to be, and then it went and
then it went bad. Let me run this fire. I
believe that Tyrone Tracy, who missed about the first third
of the season last year while he was on the
bench behind Devin Singletary, then came on and ran for
over eight hundred yards and would have been a thousand
yard Russia. How he played the whole season. Let's let

(12:29):
let's not forget that. I think Singletary, because of his
long speed, because of his ability to break one he
did in Denver. By the way I think he brings
a different element than Skataboo to the game. It's not
necessarily an extra two or three yards after contact and
pushing piles and getting guys all wiled up and screaming

(12:50):
like a maniac and ripping his shirt off and that stuff. No,
it's not that, it's not no, no, it's not that.
But what he can do to provide a spark is
maybe turn a four or five yard game if you
get that crease and a block, into a thirty five
or forty yard game. And I'm going to suggest to

(13:11):
you that Tyrone Tracy, I think the hurt over Scataboo's
injury is overshadowing the fact that Tyrone Tracy is a
quality running back who showed an awful lot of promise
and excitement as a rookie, and quite frankly, I'm looking
forward to him having a major impact in this game

(13:31):
on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
But don't kind of breeze over Motor Singletary because he's
done it for a long time in the NFL. He's
a career four point zero yards per carry guy.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
He may wind up being the shorter yardage guy. He
may be the guy they may say to him, look
Scataboo was getting those short yardage deals, he was getting
those punches down the goal line to punch him in.
Maybe that's what his new role is. I want Tyrone
Tracy to touch the ball at least twenty times on Sunday. Okay,
I'm sorry, I do know. I'm with you because Singletary's

(14:05):
not breaking a thirty five forty yard run. He's not
doing it.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
He's not.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
But but like you said earlier, those three four five
yard runs, those are crucial when you need them, and
he's a guy that's consistently done it throughout his career.
He hasn't shown it here, but he's been basically a
backup for most of the time he's been here, you know.
And now I think with Scattable being out, we can
go back to seeing the one two punch that's featuring
Tracy and Motor. But I wouldn't say, oh, let's give

(14:31):
Tracy the bulk of the carriage. You know why, because
that guy Motor Singletary, he's reliable. It's the reason why
he's played in the league as long as he had.
Saw that catch that he made, that was a phenomenal catch.
It was, and if you think about it. That's what
the Giants needed. The Giants have needed guys to make
phenomenal catches because that guy number six, Jackson Dark, has
been throwing some dimes that's been dropped.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Paul.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
That's that is something that that that's very.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Show you drop chart and seeing it too much, there's
too much on it.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
I watched the video last night of highlights of drops
beautiful throwing balls with like with sound effects of the drops,
and it was like heartbreaking into me because these balls
were beautiful, like they were just coming, you know, and
we're talking about the sideline, you know, to catch a
couple ones in the end zone a couple of weeks ago,
and good defense on some of those plays. Good defense,

(15:24):
but some players it was just straight drops, I know.
But you got a guy like Devin and I keep
bringing them up because there's something about a wily veteran,
you know, there's something about a guy that understands football, right,
he's played that running guy position for a long time.
Tracy's four years in at the running back position, if
I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
One year in college, three years and second year approach.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, so this is third year total for the running
back position. And I just feel like motor could be
utilized a little bit more. And he may be the
spark because I saw him as Scatabool was doing his thing.
He had a run late in the Philadelphia game where
he had the first down if it was like nine
or ten yards in the fourth quarter, and he got.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
A fired up.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
I don't know if I seen him do that in
the past, but he is a guy that can get
those tough little yards that could be three four five yards.
Maybe not you know, bang his head against the wall
like Scatibul. But I'm telling you something about those wily
veterans that can make a guy missing a phone book
and the phone, the phone, phone booth, phone booth, and
the phone book in a phone booth. He's a guy

(16:32):
that can do that.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Phone book is what Lance sits on.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Damn shut shot shots fire at Lance matter.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
We love him. Uh. I had to do this because
you know you did bring it up. I'm sorry. I've
got the giants for nineteen drop passes this year, ten
of which here's the worst part, ten of which were
at or be on the sticks for a first down
that's paying nineteen nineteen.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
And there's there's.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Repeats, but that's you know again, I'm pretty tough on drops.
You know that. You know how I great it?

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, I do. I break your heart time. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Now there were those people though, there are some analytics
people out there, I think have the Giants with like
eight or nine drops. They're being very generous to the receivers.
I'm not that way. I'm like a wide receivers coach.
It's like, no, no, you how to catch that ball?
And Lord knows, if let's just say the ten first
down throws that were caught, how much better would this

(17:35):
would this team be? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Absolutely?

Speaker 6 (17:37):
And I watched the Commanders play the other day. Terry
mccorn made two of the greatest catches I've ever seen.
It was he was doing like an over route towards
the end zone quarterback through the ball. It looked like
he was out of bounds. He caught the ball on
the move, running full speed, got his two toes and
they had the review. It was a touchdown. And there
was another play on what they played the Texans if

(17:57):
I'm not mistaken, And who.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Was the Pierson? Who did they play?

Speaker 6 (18:02):
And they had like a really oh it was McDuffie.
They played the forty nine Ers forty nine er game. Sorry,
I was thinking stingly for some reason. Oh, because I
was just watching the Houston Texans versus San France.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
It was me Washington played the forty nine yet this
year the commander's commanders. Sure, I'm not. I got it
was really good at the four. I got the forty
nine ers thing right here.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So who did the commanders? Well?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Whoever?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
It was right anyway, it was a really good corner
on him. It might have been thinking. I don't know
who it was.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
My memory sucks, but I remember the catch. His right
arm was being held right, it was down. It was
down the field. His right arm is being held as
the ball was coming. He basically got past in appearance,
he doleve for the ball and caught the ball. It
was the most insane catch I've ever seen. But he
does that on a consistent bassis Terry McLaurin, and that's
why he's named Scary Terry because he's done stuff like that.

(18:48):
We need guys, and it can't be Neighbors because Neighbors
is not playing for this team right now. We need
guys to go beyond the x's and nose and make
those extravagant catches because dark is putting that ball where
it's supposed to be almost ninety percent of the time.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Okay, So I will kind of double up on your
point because I've been after Giants players, skill position guys
to make plays above the x's and the e's for
a long time and they don't have enough of guys
who do it consistently. They'll get one every three or
four weeks.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
It was Chief Corner McDuffie, who was I saying, Yeah, Yeah,
I was saying, san Fran mcduffy, No, yes, chiefs medec.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Duffie definitely pays for Okay. But here's what I'll say.
When you don't make deep plays above the x's and
the o's, you compound it by having nineteen drops. No,
for sure, if you're going to have those drops, they
make nineteen plays above the exes and the o's to
counter those nineteen drops.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
That's like we don't do either. It's like, oh Pickens,
Pickens all drop an easy one, but he'll make the
most extravagant at you exactly on the same drop.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
All right, real quick, just the thought of before we
get to the phones, because I do want to get
to your calls at two O one nine three nine
four five one three. Real quick, very important item when
you talk about this matchupgainst the San Francisco forty nine ers,
you're gonna love this. As a linebacker, Jonathan this year,
not counting Neil downs, the Niners have been trapped behind

(20:09):
the line of scrimmage on a running play twenty five times,
which is twelve percent of their runs, the fourth highest
percentage in the National Football League. Their offensive line has
had a lot of trouble this year. They've certainly had
difficulties staying healthy, no question, I understand that, but they
have had a great amount of difficulty getting their running

(20:32):
game going consistently. And Christian McCaffrey's only averaging three point
five yards of carry, so it's been a pedestrian running game.
Kittle just got back into the lineup. Ayuk is still
out since last year. This is a wounded team. I
don't even want to get on offense. Where Warner's gone,
where Bosa's gone. I mean, this is a wounded team.

(20:55):
People out in San Francisco were talking like, how does
this team have a winning record? Seriously, They're like, how
are they five and three?

Speaker 7 (21:01):
Well?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know why. They're very well coached. They scheme it
incredibly at an incredibly high level, and they don't self destruct.
They don't beat themselves, and that's why they have a
winning record and the Giants don't. Because if you look
at these stats across the board, this is a very

(21:22):
beatable team coming in here on Sunday.

Speaker 6 (21:25):
But like you said, they don't make a lot of
mistakes like the team down ninety five. You know, the
Eagles don't make a lot of mistakes either. YEA, well,
and you see what happens. But for some reason, I
don't know, I watched the last two games that they played,
and it was like I'm watching two different teams. When
I watched them play against Atlanta and then they played
against the Texans last week. Christian McCaffrey didn't touch the
ball to the end of the second quarter last week,

(21:46):
and I'm just wondering, why would you do something like that.
And the game before he had two hundred yards total.
He had the most yards he had all season. The
first game he had over one hundred and he had
like seventy receiving yards. He ended up at two hundred.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Perpose, he had over one twenty rushing against Atlanta.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
And last week Houston Texans, he didn't touch the ball
to the secondd end like a minute left in the
second quarter. It was something like that, and they didn't
get a first down to that time as well. And
I'm like, don't you think that goes handed in? You
get your best player to the boy, you might get
some first downs. So it depends, I think what type
of team they want to be when they face the Giants.
Are they going to be a guy that because McCaffrey's

(22:20):
averaging twenty five touches a game, wow, or the ground, and.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
You're gonna run it against the Giants, aren't you?

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Yes, you will. And that was the point I was
getting to. They're gonna look back and see what they
did well against Atlanta and said, you know what, what
we're seeing on film against the Giants, especially what they
showed last week against Philly, I mean the whole season,
they haven't been usuth to the rumblet. It was just
an avalanche of Saint von Barkley and what was the
other back name from last week from Philadelphia Bigsby? Rock Bisbee, Right,
Rock Bisby. It was just an avalanche of running backs

(22:46):
and they basically did whatever they wanted. Better believe that
these guys San Francisco, they're gonna run the ball probably
sixty percent of the time against the Giants because the
Giants owns defense. Their strength is against the pass. And
no matter how the game's going, Burns finds a way
to to that quarterback.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Well that's it. Even even with the darth of quarters available,
we do know they can get to the qb, which,
by the way, the Niners can't do right.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
How look is being out Warner being out a lot
of guys.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
They got nine sacks on the season. That's thirty first
in the league.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Which is uncharacteristic of not only forty nine ers, but
a Solas defense as well.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
They have five sacks over the last six games combined.
That it's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Hey, I tell you what, though, their defense flies around.
Their defense flies around, and I think they're leading the
league and takeaways, Am I not mistaken?

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Well that's they punch out the football.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
So this is This may not be a dangerous against
the quarterback defense, but this is a dangerous defense. When
your defense can take the ball away, it gives your
offense so many more opportunities with the football, and you're
basically in every single game if you can create takeaways.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Six fhoneble recoveries, you.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Know what that means to me. That means they're hustling
to the ball. That means they're all running to the ball.
They are all getting off blocks. And that's what I've
seen on film. You know, it wasn't it hasn't been perfect,
it hasn't been cleaned, but you've seen eleven guys find
around on that defense. But that's a Robert Thomas defense
right there.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Now, here's the one thing I will tell you. On
pass plays, they're blitch percentages only eighteen percent. That's twenty
eighth in the NFL. So they're not taking chances. They
know they don't have the bodies to get home, so
they're not sending extra bodies because the risk is too high.
They're going to get burned. They understand that now. At

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the same time, Jackson Dart, who was two to zero
as a starting quarterback at home this season, has shown
he's one of those guys as most rookies are, that
if you're not going to send a lot of heat
to him, he can do pretty much what he's programmed
to do. I'm telling you, folks, it wouldn't surprise me

(24:50):
if this is a pinball machine. In terms of the scoreboard,
I think both teams, both teams are going to move
the ball pretty darn well. I think on Sunday it
might wind up being the last team with the that
wins the game.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Yeah, I see what you're saying. And looking at these quarterbacks,
no matter who plays, they're very very similar in what
they can do, you know, skill set.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Wise, Oh, Perty and Jones.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah, And I don't think I see a difference in
the Party runs a little more he runs, Yeah, he
definitely a little bit more mobile. But I'm talking about
what Shanahan asked them to do. I think it's pretty similar.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
You know, well it's a system.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
It's a system thing, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, and the
skill sets are not really like, Oh, you could see
a different, you know, type of play when Brock plays, No,
I think you see more consistency because he's been in
there longer. I think, yeah, so we might see party
because they may trust him or given his health.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Well he's got the party's got the toe thing and
supposedly the media out in San Francisco yesterday is leaning
toward him not playing this week, and part of it
they bring up the whole artificial turf thing. Now we
know the artificial turf and met life was replaced in
twenty twenty three. The Niners were here in twenty twenty
when they had four players injured in the game and

(25:54):
they were blaming the turf on it. Now, psychologically that
may be part of it is still in their heads.
But I'm thinking it's going to be Jones.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Yeah, yeah, And like this Kyle Shanahan's offense, they are
like a timing offense. They're a rhythmic offense. So the
Giants have to do a good job in knocking them
off their rhythm. Because if Mac Jones get into a
flow state when he could just distribute the ball and
they have a phenomenal tight end in George Kittle, if
they can you know, limit him early and limit krisiy
McCaffrey everything, they can have success. Because we're not looking

(26:24):
at Mac Jones, this phenomenal quarterback that can beat us
all by himself. No, he has to be able to
be involved and have rhythm in this offense to have success.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
We go to the phone. So at two on one,
nine three, nine, four, five one three, Tim and Charleston,
you are first on the show.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
Hello, Oh, proud to be first. So hello, Doctor Doom
and Count Postula?

Speaker 3 (26:44):
How you doing get the dog?

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Dear? What's up? Man?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
So I don't basically the way I'm looking, you know,
I went from hopeful to so optimistic the first Philly
game at home, and then that that obviously we know it,
have no less two weeks not going to rehit. But
we got nine games left down. Here's the thing. Six
of them are at home. So Dart has shown that
he dance up the enthusiasm of the home crown. Obviously

(27:12):
Stataboo did too, but he's gone. But hopefully if we
you know, we we got to win at least half
of those games at home, you know, And and at
the end of the the end of the year, we
end up with three out of four games at home,
and we get the two division opponents, Washington and Dallas
in those games. So let's let's beat those guys. Let's
at least go three and three in the division. Let's

(27:34):
have a winning record at home, you know, a minimum
of five and four and and and you know, and
and do our damnages to pick up a you know,
a game or two on the road, and it's not
as bad as it looks right now. But that's obviously
all hope. We're shorthanded. You know, I think again as
I as, I'm like a broken record. Every year I

(27:56):
say it, and almost every game I say it, stop
the run. We could stop the run and hold this
team to under one hundred and twenty five yards, so
one hundred and ten, you know, we get all of
them at one hundred and ten, we win the game.
You know, one hundred and twenty five would be would
wouldn't be bad. But if we stopped the run, I
know we're digging up in the secondary, but I have

(28:18):
faith in our pass wress. If we stop the run
to put it in a more pasting situations, you know
we're going to hopefully if we tackle well, we're in
this game. We win this game at home, and next
to see six games left at home, this one becomes key.
So Tama, doctor jun thing wasn't an impending do.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Them tim, I'll say this. Mac Jones is like many
A quarterbacks who when there's a lot of pressure, they
just don't seem to handle it very well. It's the
elite guys who handle pressure. Well, that's what makes the
stars the stars in this league, right, any quarterback, if
you give them a lot of time and there at
the pro level, come on, these guys got here for

(28:58):
a reason. They're going to well. But it's only the
really special guys who when you really get after their
butts and you knock them on their you know, watts,
their keyster, they still can perform at a very high level.
Matt Jones has not proven to be one of those guys.
So if I'm the Giants, I'm blitzing like crazy this week.

(29:20):
And I'm not just talking about on pass plays. I'm
talking about on run place too. I'm sending guys through
gaps because I don't want McCaffrey to get going.

Speaker 6 (29:29):
Well, that's what I just said about being on rhythm.
You know, if you can blitz them on first and
that first and first and ten, when they have a
run play and you get them for negative artist, that's
they're off rhythm. Now now they're second and long. They
have to do something.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
And you heard the number I gave you too, Yep.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
That goes outside of what they would normally do screen
games and stuff like that. And that's when you start
turning number zero loose, because we want Brian Burns getting
after mac Jones the whole night.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
We want that.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
Oh yeah, advantage Giants. I don't think there's anybody in
the lead that can block in. Now there's other guys
all longer defense of line. I think that have opportunities
that I think need to go ahead and show up.
Because look, Tim, every year, when you come into a season,
you have your goals. I don't know what the goals
for the Giants years, but every single year that I've
ever played in the league, we've always had some type

(30:15):
of goal of defending your home turf. And the Giants have,
like you said, a lot of home games left, so
they can figure out a way to win most of
those home games, figure out a way to do it
and compete in this division, because right now they're one
and three in a division. They still have two division
games left. Right now, they're already tied for the last
three years of how many wins they had in a division.
So they're already doing better right now, you know. So

(30:37):
if the Giants can figure out a way to get
one or two of those games that's left in the division,
figure out to win more than half of the games
at home. I think we're looking at something that we
can build off of, because right now it's looking bleak.
When I say looking bleak, just what we're seeing for
the last five quarters and then losing your guy in scatable.
They have to figure out a way to respond. I've
said at the beginning of the season when they drop

(30:59):
the first two games, and every responded against the Chargers,
and then they dropped it against the Chiefs and they
responded against the Eagles. So let's respond, Giants, Let's figure
out a way to respond because you're missing your energy
guy on offense. There's a whole bunch of tremendous guys
in that locker room, high character guys, good players that's
played some good football here. We need those guys to
go ahead and show that they are the guys that

(31:19):
we all think they are and who they think they are.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I mean, the forty nine Ers have only allowed
two sacks per game. They're sixteen, they're seven best of
the league and second allowed. So let's double that. Let's
put some pressure on Jones and let's get a lead
and keep the pressure on and let's see some gap
integrity and I'll take the rest off the air guys.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Thank you, thank you, Jim.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, this is a Niners team that in four of
the last five games. They're two and three over the
last five, and the Giants are two and three over
the last five, and the Niners have allowed at least
twenty three points in four of those five games. Defensively,
they're messed up. I mean, they're really really limping in here.
If you're the Giants, that's where the aggression has to be.

(32:09):
Go at them offensively, attack, attack, attack. Let Dark do
what he's been doing in home games this year and
put the pressure on the other side of the ball.
You don't make make the Niners have to step up
with their wobbly defense.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
You know, you've got to take advantage of somebody that's
ailing right and they're right now, they're ailing. I think
Fred Warner is the best linebacker in the league, and
they're missing that guy. Big Ti is the he's the
scatable of the forty nine ers. You know, he's the
energy guy. He's the guy that's making the plays, he's
the guy that's getting everybody lined up, and they are
missing him. But but you can't take away what I've
seen on films, those eleven guys and those red.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Jergies flying around.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
They're fast, they are flying around on defense, and they
do make mistakes, but you have to capitalize on those mistakes, right,
and then on offense, you have to protect the football.
This is a game where I think, going against Philadelphia consistently,
it's always about if you can make Philly make a
mistake like they did in the first game, because Philly
don't make a lot of mistakes. No, if you can

(33:10):
make them make a mistake, you have a chance. But
if not, then Philly's pretty much Philadelphia. What we've seen
for the last couple of years. San fran and the Giants.
These teams are like, if you can make that team
make mistakes, then they're gonna be what their record is,
right the Giants. If the Giants can play clean football,
if they can and they can make Philadelphia make those

(33:30):
excuse me, San Francisco, make those mistakes, now, the Giants
are setting themselves up for success because this is a
team right here. They're thriving off their takeaways. When you're
giving up plays and you're giving up yardage, and you're
giving up touchdowns and you get that turnover, it's like
it erases all the things that negative things that happen
to you.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
This would blow your mind. But you know how the
Giants are so stunted in the red zone, although they've
picked it up now on third down and in the
red zone with Jackson Dart. For the season, the Giants
who had forty eight percent touchdown percentage in the red zone.
That's twenty fifth in the league. But how about this,
The forty nine ers are only twenty first at fifty

(34:10):
two percent. So it's this is not the Niner team
that people went into the season thinking that, oh, they're
going to be a top contender. No, I get it.
They won five games, but they are a muted team.
I can't stress it enough. The Giants need to be
foaming at the mouth on both sides of the ball.

(34:31):
Someday they need to take it out of them.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, they have to, but they show.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Them sers Hey, you guys aren't that good.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
They have to do a good job on those two
guys that are just phenomenal players in this league, all
pro guys, and that's Christian McCaffrey and Kittle. Those guys
can wreck games and they have red games.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
The Giants have had some trouble with tight ends. We
saw Nuban had trouble with Goddard again last week because
they wound up putting.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
His motorrectly not just no I regime when I was
playing too.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
We had to now.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Holland, Holland looks like he's trending to come back, Okay,
Javon Holland, that's a big deal. Okay, because Belton Belton
played last week and they decided to give more of
the coverage responsibilities to new but that didn't work out
so good either. Holland, I think it looks good for
him this week. That would be a big plus. Rob

(35:24):
from Yonkers, you're next on the show. Hello, guys.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
How are you doing very well?

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Sir? How are you guys?

Speaker 7 (35:33):
You guys touched on one of the subjects I wanted
to speak on as far as far as in the division.
I feel like if we can actually win a few
more games and Dallas and Washington lose a few more games,
I think we could actually get right back into this race.
It's like it's like actually NFL is giving us like

(35:54):
a third try on actually trying to get back into
this race.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
What do you guys think about that race for what.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
To get back into the division. Meaning that Washington has
lost and Dallas just lost, our record is not too
far off. So again, if we start winning some games
and Washington Dallas started losing some games, we actually maybe
it to get into the second second in our division.

Speaker 6 (36:17):
When you think, Okay, I see what you're saying. I
think you were talking about playoffs. I must say it's
a little bit bigger than the division when it comes
to the playoff race. But I understand what you're saying.
To be competitive in a division, and that's something that Paul,
I don't know how many shows I've been on while
I've talked about the Giants being competitive in the division,
even the year three years ago when the regime first
got here, when the Giants went nine and eight, nine

(36:38):
and eight, right, and they stuck it to the playoffs,
and twenty twenty two nine seven and one and they
end up winning a playoff game. That year the division
record was one four and one, I know, and last
year they went winless in the division. So I'm with you,
and I always look at that because your first you're

(37:01):
fast track into the playoffs is winning your division. So
now you have to be competitive in your division, and
the truth is that Giants just haven't been competitive. So
I hear your point in them being competitive in the division.
Maybe they can do it, but let's focus on sand
Fran right now. Let's not look down a road and
talk about the team in front of us, Because the
Giants have to do well at home because historically, and

(37:21):
I say historically the last couple of years, the Giants
have not done well at home. And if you can
secure your home games, that's also as big as winning
your division games as well.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yeah, there are small steps that you have to take
when you're trying to climb out of the quicksand and
two of them are winning record at home and at
least five hundred in the division. Those are two of
the hurdles you have to clear to become a better team.
Quite frankly, at this point with the Giants are two

(37:51):
and six. Those are probably the two most realistic hurdles
they might still be able to achieve.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 7 (37:59):
Three more things and I wait for you guys to
comment read more.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
How'd you clear this? Ahead?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
What you got?

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Rob? Real quick? Let's not hope this is a get
back game. For Christian McCaffrey like it was Sakon barklea
let's not hope number number two. I think a lot
of to me, I've been from watching a lot of Burns.
Sacks came from.

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I do Carter.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Every time I do Carter gets close to the quarterback
like it, it's like he's running the quarterback right into riding.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
He does, he steals him. He's still having a phenomenal season, though.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
And the last and the last one, I feel like
sometimes Jackson Dark underthrows his passes, his long passes down
the field where his receivers either have to come back
for it or they got to fight for it. If
he overthrows them a little bit, kind of Steve, if
they can get the ball, don't turn into a fifty fifty.
If you can overthrow them just a little bit, Steve,
you can do it. I let him run for the

(38:59):
ball and I'll pick up here.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Thank you, guys, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Rob One comment about the under thrown ball, it wouldn't
be so bad if our receivers did a better job
of drawing the passing affarance flags that so many other
teams seem to be really good at it.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
And consistently do it, because if you got a guy
that's willing to throw a deep ball.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
There's gonna be contact. Guys.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
This is the NFL. That stuff that happened with Slayton
last week with twenty seven, like that happens almost every play.
You know, sometimes referee called, sometimes they don't. Not too
much on the offense, you know, use this on the defense.
But I'm not going to get into what the referees
and how I feel about them. I already got my
cuss words out throughout the week about those guys. But

(39:42):
I watched the video recently with a keep to Leave
talking about playing against a Keem Nicks, and he was
saying he wasn't playing against a Keem Nicks. He was
talking about playing against Eli Manning because of Eli Manning's
ball placement.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (39:55):
So there is something to what he's saying. And I
would like Jackson Dark to try to put this in
his report. Are the back shoulder ball?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Oh? One of my favorite players of all times.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Keep to Lee was talking about Hayakeen Knicks was killing
them because he put it on the front shoulder, then
he put it on the back shoulder, and then he
put on the back shoulder again, So now he's ready
for the back sholder. He put it on the front shoulder.
And when you can incorporate coorate, incorporate that into your
repertoire as a quarterback, it just adds a different variety
of how the defensive back can and can't play.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
You.

Speaker 6 (40:25):
You know, there's certain there's certain things that they can
and can't do, and it just gives the more of
a different locations of the receiver to place the ball
because those good receivers in the league, they don't really
look back and play the ball. They play your hands.
Those good DB's in the league, they play your hands
and they're very good at that. So if you have
late hands and that quarterback is not basically predicting or

(40:47):
you know, basically precursing where he's going to throw the
ball at, and it's always in the same spot. So
I'm with him. I'm with him with throwing a ball
that's a little bit overthrown, But you also got to
throw the underthrown ones well. And then those those offensive
guys have to make the defenses pay, whether it's through
penalty or actually making the catch. And then I would

(41:07):
like to see Jackson dar incorporate that nice back shoulder
ball that we've seen from Eli Manning and some of
these great quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I don't know how much of the back shoulder he
threw it, old miss, I don't remember seeing a ton
of those when I looked at his video.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
He's a layer guy. He's a guy that can lay
and back shoulder is more of a it's more of
a zip pad. It's a t ye a tightrope has
to be. But I know he can do it. It's just
has he done it? And will he try to do it?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
And that takes a lot of chemistry with the receiver
and the QB, and that you really got to work
on that. And and the receiver has to be as
much as it's important to have that ball placement in
the right spot, the receiver has to also have the
right technique to be able.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
To pull that off, oh for sure.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
And it's almost more on the receiver than it is
on the QB because if you if you're making the
back shoulder throw, even if you're a lit off, if
the why receiver is really a depth at making that grab,
he'll get it, or at the very least he's not
letting the dB.

Speaker 6 (42:08):
Get it because the back shoulder. The reason why it's
so successful because it lands on the back shoulder of
a receiver, and that's really not a good pass. When
you extruct, instruct quarterbacks or throw good passes, it's never
to the back shoulder. No, never, They're not instructed to
do that.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Very scientific play.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
That's why it works because those receivers they sell like
it's going to the front sidey and then at the
last second they turn around and snap. You're phenomenal and
Aaron Rodgers is one I played against him. I don't
know five times. That back shoulder killed every team that
I played for because it's just so hard to cover
because you can be all over a guy and if

(42:47):
you're going that way, Paul and I'm guarding you, I'm
thinking the ball's coming here. Of course, I'm not thinking
the ball is gonna come right behind my head, you know.
So that's the back shoulder, boy. I would love for
him to get that in his repertoire because I think
think he's a phenomenal thrower of the football. I think
his pocket presence is second to none. He's his ability
to step up in the pocket, his ability to create. Now,

(43:08):
did God just have to make those plays downfield, man,
because like you said, nineteen drops, that's just totally unacceptable.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Now, the back shoulder, to me is probably too much
to ask him to bite off right now. Yeah, you're
given his status as a rookie and also not being
a starter during the entire offseason when Russell Wilson had
the job cemented. So it seems to me that may
be something we're going to have to look at, maybe
in year two, maybe as being part of the regular playbook.

(43:35):
I'd love to see it. But again, you got to
make sure you got the receivers to complete that ball
on the other end, absolutely, because you know when you
have nineteen drops, you're not helping your quarterback.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
Man, Okay, that number just you just not give me
the goosebumps when you say that number.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Coach Marvin is next on Big Blue Kickoff Live High.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
Coach, I'm Paul Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
We're okay, my man, how are you?

Speaker 8 (43:56):
I'm all right? That back showed that, Yeah, you need
to be.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
We don't have receivers that these.

Speaker 8 (44:03):
Guys not catching it when it's in front of their face.
But now if you have neighbors and and they're connecting
that way, I think Neighbors is a talent that can
make that that catch.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
He probably could coach. I'm not so sure that he
wants to because he's so interested in the yack yardage
and you and I both know the back shoulder throw
isn't necessarily conducive to yat.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
He went yards in general the ball.

Speaker 8 (44:28):
But I think I think it depends on the paull Paul,
what is the call of his route that he's gonna run.
I think he could, he would do it if it's
depending on what the call is. And you're right, he's
a yat guy, but I think there's times he's along
that sideline and the guys right on him, and he
will he will attack the ball in the contested ball.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
I'd like to see him have a little stickier hands,
to be honest.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
All of the guys, all of them, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Y you guys.

Speaker 8 (45:00):
Was also talking about leadership, and you know, and I
always had like three categories of leadership. You had the
player that leads by example, you have the vocal leader,
and then you had that emotional leader. And a lot
of times that emotional leader is the one that has
the combination of both of those. He can Actually he's

(45:23):
he performs and he speaks out, and you have to
have those at times on teams. And I think that's
what Scatteraboo was. He was that emotional leader that he
can actually get you ready to go play, even if
you're ready to play. But there's something about the words
he used and how he acts that motivates you mentally

(45:46):
to go out there and play. It's almost that it's
not the same but the similar as a player like
ray Lewis. Ray Lewis can talk to me today and
I'm sixty four years old, I'm ready to play one.
And then that's the emotional leaders you have to have
on teams. And it always don't have to be a player.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
It could be a coach.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
Bill Parcells, as I've grown up with, is one of
those guys that can talk you emotionally into playing the
game the way he feels you should be playing it.
And and I think that's what Scatablog kind of brings out.
I think Dart has a little bit of that. You
guys was right. Brian is Uh, He's he's a he

(46:31):
speaks out when he needs to, but I don't see
him in that emotional speak out type of person, and
I think Dexter is more. I listened to him. He's
more of a soft spoken guy on the site where
Pearson and John they put up those when they're miked up,
and I listened to him, and it's interesting things to listen.

(46:54):
But I don't they don't move me. They don't make
me like I'm ready to get sued up. And they
think they nice guys. They speak softly, but I don't
know if we have that kind of player on the
defense coach.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
I think the teams that are the most consistent and
that have the most success, they have the leadership values
that you're talking about on all levels from the head
coach to the coordinators, to the position coaches and to
the players as well. And you have each of those
guys in every room. And that's the thing about the
Giants is like where are the leaders that are consistently

(47:31):
being there that we can say, Okay, this guy's definitely
a leader. This guy is a leader, and what type
of leader is he?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
You know?

Speaker 6 (47:37):
And that's the thing is like we got to figure
out who those guys are. And I just don't know
how much time we got because you know, guys are dropping,
you know, that's what happens during the NFL. But you
have to be able to rely on some of those
guys that are in the locker room that are still
playing on this team. That has to be one of
those leaders that you talk about for those three categories.
And it's not just the players.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Well, not everybody can be a nuclear reactor. And again,
you can't fake that. You cannot. Now, one of the
greatest examples of a pros pro and a guy who
leads by example with his detail and focus is Russell Wilson.
We talked about it the entire offseason and while he
was starting on this team, and by the way, he
is still out there at practice talking up everybody on

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that field, defensive players included. He is a terrific leader,
but he does not have a nuclear reactor in his belly.
That's not the way he is. And you can't you know,
you can't blame a guy for that. You either have
it or you don't.

Speaker 6 (48:35):
Like coach Marvin said, there's different ways to lead, but
you have to have those different type of ways in
a li like this. This is a big locker room.
It's not a team of fifteen people, there's seventy five
guys on this team, you know, and you got to
have a nucleus of those type of guys, a collective
of those type of guys.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Those guys actually shows up in August. It's a personality
thing with these guys. I mean, it's not something you
just walk in and you're doing like you're saying, you
can't be faked. Those guys are going to look at
you like, what are you talking about. They're not going
to follow you, even if you are trying to correct.

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You have to be born into doing that. And a
lot of times I watch the kids' body language, I
watch how they react to other kids, and then I
have a conversation with them about being a leader. I
can't make them one, but I want their personality to
be what I wanted to be in a sense of
what the way they act pretty much the way I'm coaching.

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So with ray Lewis, he actually was speaking to his
players as the coach would want to be speaking to
the players. So whatever message the coach was giving, he
was giving it. And then the same thing if you
look at those new England teams, everybody was preaching the
same thing that Belichick was saying. He was saying quietly,

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But I'm sure the team wasn't saying that quiet their
leaders on those teams, and that's what you have to have.
And and I don't know if we have that right now,
but I think they just gonna have to play tougher.
The defense is gonna have to play tougher, set the edge.
This weekend gap discipline, somebody was mentioning that I wanted

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to say that because our gap discipline has been bad.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It's been really really bad.

Speaker 8 (50:26):
Guys in the same gap. I'm like, where are we going?

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You know what, coach, what they tell you. Sometimes absence
makes the heart grow fonder. How much did this team
miss Michael McFadden?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Now, man, that's what I just told him. I told
you I saw him earlier. Man.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
I came in with my mask on. I was all
like excited, and then I saw him. I took my
mask off right away because I wanted to see I
wouldn't see who I was, right, so I had to say,
what's up to him? And I was just looking at
it like, bro, like we've missed you so much.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
He he had gotten better every year that he was
here and had become a really good part of the
runs stuff. In the game.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
Yeah, it's all these injuries have heard us this year,
and you know, I was proud of the way they
played so far this year. But it's kind of sad
to see it kind of dissolving right in front of
me a little bit. Hopefully we can pick it up
this weekend and go Giants.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
All right, coach, thank you, hoping for some home cooking again.
Remember the Giants are two and oh at home since
they made the change at quarterback to Jackson Dart. Now again,
I'm going to make this very clear. I am not
I am not blaming Russell Wilson for the Giants' troubles, Okay,
but there is no question that some of this nuclear

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energy that we talked about, Scatterboo was providing it. Dart
was providing it and right now, and I don't think
maybe you were maybe I did talk to you since
I said to somebody the other day. It's almost feeling
like after those last two home games, when the Giants
upset the Chargers and the Eagles on consecutive home games,

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what they're starting to get a sense of maybe a
home field advantage again, which they haven't really had here
for a long time. They had won a lot of
games at home and the crowds were not responding because
the team wasn't doing very well. They responded to Dart,
they responded to Scataboo. I've been on that sideline. When

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that stadium has it going, it makes a difference. Even
Brian Dabeles said today, you know what home crowd twelfth man,
it's something. It's real in this league again, folks. One
of the steps into becoming a better team win at home.
I'd love to see the Giants win the rest of

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their home games this season, whatever their final record turns
out to be, win games at home absolutely.

Speaker 6 (52:57):
I mean, when you got your home crowd on your side, man,
there's nothing like it, you know. And this, this this
is a I think our fans they're they're fair. They're
fair fans. You know, they're they're true fans. Like when
I say true fans, like they're gonna stick with you
when you're good, and they're gonna cheer you on. And
when you're bad, they're gonna.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
They're gonna show, you know.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
And this is a team that will boo at halftime
if you're not performing well. And the good thing about
this year is the Giants have been performing well at home,
you know, and I think I kind of called out
the fans. Uh the last game when the Giants be
Philadelphia at home, I was a little disappointed because the
stadium was not as full as I thought it should be.

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And the Giants put on a hell of a performance
against a really talented Phildelphia Eagles team.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I'm glad they were vocal, though.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Oh they were good. They were good.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
They weren't fantastic. They weren't great, which I know they
can be because I've seen it, I've heard them do before.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
But like it.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Goes to show you, I think that any team, if
you got the support of your home crowd, that gives
you a little bit extra juice. Sure, that gives you
a little bit extra juice.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
You know, Scataboo's not here, so how about the crowd
kind of subject Scataboo would give them a left.

Speaker 6 (54:11):
We need them, We need them, you know. And you know,
I know, look because I got a lot of family
and a lot of friends, and we hear callers all
the time, right, we speak to these guys and we
hear you, We understand you. But man, those guys need you. Man,
those guys in the field. I know, you relying on them.
They got their parlays and their prop bets and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Don't go there.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
I'm just saying it's true, though, party, It's true, I know.
But like, man, those guys need you. They got those
guys need to hear those fans cheering for them, supporting them,
and really being there for them, because man, it's nothing
like running out that tunnel you see in a full
crowd and everybody cheering.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Man, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Well, we will see what happens on Sunday as the
San Francisco forty nine ers make the trip from the
West coast. And by the way, this is a one
o'clock game. Hey, think about that once again. One o'clock game.
They've been talking about this old wives tale for the
longest time that when teams come to the east and
they have to play one o'clock game. I know, the

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percentages back it up and tend to have more difficulty, and.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
They like saving time, so they're going to lose an
extra hour if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Four hours. Yes, advantage giants.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
I mean it's got to count for something, something, how much.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
They come out Saturday not today, because today's Friday.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I well, no, no, I got a hunch. If I'm
San Francisco and I have not read their media reports
this afternoon, I got a hunch they probably will come
out tonight.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
It'd be dumb though, Maybe a red eye and get
it in the morning on Saturday, because that that uh to.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Come out Saturday afternoon is not going.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
To be West to East flight. That's the fight I
hate the most West to East because you either fly
in the morning and lose a day, or you fly
at night and hopefully you get some sleep on the plane,
so you know, advantage giant when you got to do
some stuff.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
You never played for a West Coast team.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
No, but I've flown from the LA or wherever to
New Jersey or Florida or something, and I hate it.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
He's a man of the world, folks.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I love I know he does. I love it.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
He's my favorite thing to do, Like, besides hanging with
my daughter, you know, like the thing I really love
to do is travel. You know you're talking when you
call me and I'm with me, I'm either either with
my daughter or am about to come.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
I know y'are every time, every single time. My goodness,
I'll tell you, folks, it's going to be an interesting game.
I promise you that it will be an interesting game
on Sunday again. I think both offenses will probably move
the ball effectively, and it just could where he will
come down to the last possession.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And what we didn't talk about, which I'm a little for.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Me, like, like you didn't bring up the historical value
of this game between these two story franchises. Maybe because
the records aren't as good as it used to be
and they're not both going for like a play off
spot right now.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Teams don't resemble anything like their forefathers.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Yea, they just don't a lot of history here though.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Man, well it's a tremendous amount of history, but they
just don't resemble those teams in the past. Look the
Bill Parcells, Bill Walsh battles and I'm not just talking
about the players on the field. I'm talking about those
coaching backs.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Yeah, for sure, we're awesome.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Remember this, folks, Just remember this when it comes to
the Parcels, Joe Gibbs, Bill Walsh, little triumvirent of awesome
coaches during that time period. Parcells is the guy who
has the best record amongst the threesome. Just remember that
when it comes to the round robin of those teams

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all fighting each other, parcels comes out the winner. That's
I will never let anybody forget that.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I'm glad you brought that.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
If the tuna is my guy, always always respond to
the tuna, the book of the Tuna, as I like
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