Chargers Weekly: General Manager Joe Hortiz & More Talk 2025 Offseason

On this episode of Chargers Weekly, hosts Chris Hayre and Matt “Money” Smith are onsite at the 2025 NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis to recap the latest news involving LA and the entire NFL. The hosts sit down with Bolts General Manager Joe Hortiz, Assistant General Manager Chad Alexander, and NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah to talk the offseason ahead and what to look for during Combine week. Hortiz discusses strategy entering his second draft as GM, signing safety Elijah Molden to a contract extension and how that affects Derwin James, Jr., and even his take on the Los Angeles Dodgers and superstar Shohei Ohtani. Alexander highlights the Bolts’ options in free agency and the importance of the Combine to scouts. Finally, Jeremiah breaks down the draft class and why he had the Bolts selecting North Carolina running back Omarion Hampton at 22nd overall in his latest mock draft.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Late fifteen to ten touched up.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of
Chargers Weekly. We are in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting
combine and Buddy, this is where Chargers Weekly thrives, big
guests all week.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Man.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
Yeah, that's you know, big thank you to Jason Man
that runs the show over there with the Chargers for
having the idea to bring us out last year and
it worked out so well. Our friends in the business
kind enough to come spend some of their time with us,
the Chargers, making you know, our front office folks available,
so all of you that like to watch and listen
and consume get an idea as we start. This is

(00:44):
kind of you know, we've been talking about it on
Chargers Weekly, Chris, but this is really kind of the
kickoff of draft season, right. You get excited about what's next,
who's next, who could they be looking at? What could
this team look like? What might they add that you
felt like was missing last year? And it's just a
fun way to start the process when you're in As
you can see from behind us, you know, behind those

(01:05):
curtains are all of the press conferences, all the player interviews,
and then just beyond that is where a lot of
the bench press stuff is going on. And then just
beyond that as Lucas Oilwall, the on field drills are
and it's all right here. It's the nucleus, it's ground zero.
It starts here, and it's just fun to be part
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
And this is where everything in our sex too you
and we're gonna talk a lot about the draft, but
free agency. A lot of agents are in the mix.
Joe Ortiz book this morning and just talked about how
that part of this with twenty six unrestricted free agents,
you're talking to agents and trying to figure out who's
gonna be on this Chargers team next year. So we're
gonna get into everything you know, from draft, from analysts

(01:42):
to Joe Ortiz, Chad Alexander and Daniel Jeremiah to this episode.
And we're gonna have like three or four podcasts similar
to last year. I know that was a big hit
last year, so we're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Double it up.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, So just assume today we're doing this, it's Tuesday.
We're gonna have a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday pod, So
you're gonna get one a Day'll be sure to keep
an eye if you've subscribed, we appreciate that automatically downloads.
Just know you're gonna be getting something every day with
a lot of great insight throughout the course of the week.
And you said it, Chris, like, look, by the time
this thing posts, something huge could have happened by then,

(02:14):
you know, Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cupp could have been traded.
Like remember, that's what happens at the combine, these these
extensions happen.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
It's already happening today.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you have what's his name? Uh h,
Jonathan Allen, Jonathan Jonathan Allen from from the Commanders. Now
is gonna move on one of the best tackles in
the league. You saw earlier today Tom Pellasero report that
you know, basically Cooper cup was told, yeah, you're gonna
be traded. So that's now official. We had a feeling
it was going to happen, but like things like that

(02:42):
happen here. So it's not just prepping for the draft,
it's also contract signings extensions like Elijah Molden, you know,
a couple down. I think there's a coincidence there. Get
that thing knocked out, so when you come here and
you're talking to some agents, you can try to get
these other things figured out. So all of that stuff
comes out of here as well. And anything that moves
and happened is obviously we're going to be bringing it
to the people.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
No doubt.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
So Daniel, Jeremiah and Chad Alexander a little bit later,
but let's kick this episode off with General Manager Joe Ortiz. Well,
ladies and gentlemen, he's got the best NFL GM nickname.
I'll say that, Chef Ortiz is what they're calling you
these days around Charger Land. Joe Ortiz is with us.
Appreciate your time, sir.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Appreciate you guys having me. Yep, let's let's get started.
You were at the podium earlier twenty six free agents. Yeah,
you did such a hack of a job last year
with limited resources that now you've got to figure out
how to make it all work. So what's the difference
You got sixty five or whatever million bucks according to
whatever site you want to check out versus what you
inherited last year and how you approached this offseason versus

(03:43):
last year.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you know, I mean you got we certainly have
more cap space and cap room and you know, Ed
and Katie did a great job of helping create it
last year when we needed it, and we made some
moves obviously to get it done. And this year we
have a little bit more flexibility. But you know, we
do have a lot of guys to resign, try to resign,
and our goal is to bring back as many, if
not all of them, you know, I know that may

(04:05):
be unrealistic, but we're gonna try, and you know, and
then keep stacking and building death.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know, Joe, was it surprising that so many guys
that you signed last year made such meaningful contributions? Obviously
one year deals, a lot of guys proved themselves as chargers.
I mean, how surprising was it to see so many
guys make meaningful contributions?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, we have opportunity last year, and we're gonna have
opportunity again this year, and so not one't surprising because
you know, those guys came in with the challenge like, hey,
here's an opportunity for you. Go out and compete and
you'll be rewarded, you know, and they all came in
did it, And I think that's what's great about coach,
Like he says that it's real competitors welcome. So if

(04:49):
you're new to the fold of the Chargers, you're going
to have an opportunity to do something meaningful. And those
guys did it, you know, and I'm proud of them
and happy for him and see if we can get
as many of them back as we can.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
We we mentioned it with players, you know, you're in
the same system. You can build on what you learned,
as opposed to having to relearn everything. You you know, you
show up, you inherit a staff, we know them well,
we love those guys. So what is it for general
manager kind of learning how they scout players? And now
how different that is for you going into your second
draft with a lot of the guys that were here
when you showed up.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, definitely, And like that first year in that room,
you know, just me personally, you're like, okay, you're running
the flow of meetings, you're making sure everything's going right,
and you have to evaluate how they evaluate, you know,
And what I mean by that is, you know, some
scouts grade high, some scouts grade low. But the important
thing is how you stack them and you introduce new

(05:40):
ideas and ways of scouting and they they absorbed it
and took it and ran with it, you know. And
so now this year I'm familiar with all of them.
You know, we're speaking the same language. Last year they
had their grading scale. I had a different grading scale.
So really yeah, so we you know, just merged it together.
And you know what I did in the board last
year is that told me, you give me the grades

(06:01):
that you gave them, and I'm gonna listen and put
them up on the board where they would be on
our grading scale. So I put a column which was
the new grading scale. But they read their reports and
said the current chargers grade and they'd see how they
tied together. So now it helped them transition to the
new grade.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So it doesn't like, you know, because people I think
that listen find this stuff fascinating. You know what the
combines turn into. I thought that pretty much everybody had
kind of that you know, five five through like seven,
you know, this is a starter, this is a high
level starter?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Was six nine? Is that the sale that you were on? Yeah? Okay, right,
so and and like that that's you know, if you
talk to Daniel, you know, like he talked about a
guy being a six nine and sixty seven. Uh they
were one one to five three, you know, or really
you know, so one one, one, two, one three. It's
more like a round type grading scale. And uh, we
don't you know where I'm from, we didn't. We never

(06:52):
graded based on round. So you just this is the
what level starter is? You know? So but they saw
where all one one or a one or two three
fits in this a sentini when I put them on
the board. Oh okay, two three is that okay?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So it helps them transition. I think what was that
exercise like for you? Because you you were used to
just one thing at the Ravens. Yeah, to see.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Somebody else and trying to have to to meld that
in your first year.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, I mean you just yeah, you do it long enough,
so you just had to. I had to interpret what
colors meant and what number, what their numbers meant, and
so you just feel it out, get a feel for
it and just listen. The great thing is in the
meetings you talk about players and you just discuss them,
and so as they're saying their grades and colors, I'm like, okay,

(07:39):
I make I know what that is. You know, I
see where it correlates to how we would have done
things in Baltimore.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
So, Joe, the free agency and look, you get free
agents first, and then you get the draft and kind
of how how you approach free agency and what that
means for what you're capable or what you're able to
do in the draft, and how you get those two
to work together. How hard is that challenging? Is it
different for different positions? And and kind of what goes in? Well,
you called your chef. You know, it's a coach hardball

(08:06):
caused chef arties. You get the ingredients. How you balance
those things out?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, you know so, yeah, certainly this year we have
a lot of free agents. That's where we attack free agency. First.
We want to get our guys back in the fold,
and then you just supplement and build the roster and
you know, hey we need X. These are the guys
out there. Who's the best fit, who's the best value,
who's the best bang for your buck or you know,

(08:30):
you know what you're willing to pay and does it
make sense? So but that's that's fluid, you know, and
you could be and we we experienced it last year.
You're going after one player and he goes somewhere else
and then you pivot to the next one. So you
gotta stay fluid, you gotta be ready to you know,
change directions.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
Does it correlate with the draft, like, hey, there's depth here,
there's not depth here. Let's go get this here so
we can draft this there.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it can. It certainly can, you know, And that's
knowing the draft, and we have our meetings the way
we do it. We meet on the draft and then
we stack free agent meetings afterwards. So if I got
a position, if we have a position on the board
that we feels thin and it marries up with a
position that's deeper in free agency, yeah you can. You

(09:14):
can maybe put a little bit more effort into signing
that position, you know, in free agency to help you know,
give you some you know, flexibility in the draft versus saying, hey,
you know, we got to take you know, and that's
what you don't want. You don't want to be stuck
in the draft saying we got to take X, you know,
and because it's a hole on our team. So you

(09:35):
use free agency to kind of fill out, you know,
build the roster, build a gap a gap, yeah, you know,
and then then it allows you to hit the draft, like, Okay,
we have this player, we signed them, but it's not
going to stop you from going to get a rookie
at the same position.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
You know, you know a lot of questions about JK
Dobbins here. What an awesome story it was to see
him and just take his opportunity run with it and
be such an important part of this football team. How
do you reflect on Jk's year, his one year as
a Charger and you know, how important is it to
try to bring him back into the fold.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Oh? Yeah, you know, I love JK. And when I
think of JK, I reflect on Jk's career because I've
been with him all the whole entire time. And uh,
just his perseverance is his dedication, and then just the
way he embraced it and attacked it was awesome, and
uh the energy enthusiasm he does it with, and uh,
it was really fun to see him. How the success

(10:31):
he had last year, and he was very impactful for
us and a big part of what we did. And
that's why we want to try to get him back.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Speaking of big right behind Justin Herbert, the biggest number
is Joey Bosa. And you know, having been around Joey
for eight years now. He's one of everybody's favorite guys.
There's just nobody better that you wouldn't want to have
a conversation with.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
He's great, he is the best. He is one of
might have.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
So it's a huge number kind of how how does
all that stuff get weighed? You know, when you try
to figure out awesome guy to have around great, but
there's the body betrayal sort of thing. Kind of what
goes into that and how you're going to approach Joey
this offseason?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I think you just you take everything in, well, it's
just Joey and every other player you know, like and uh,
you know, but you you weigh it all and you
make decisions. But what I'll say about Joey is I
love Joey just like you love Joey, and that he's
an awesome dude and a great teammate, loves the charger.
Said he wants to retire as a charger. He's come
out and said that, and I'd love for him to

(11:26):
retire as a charger. So just I had a blast
with him. And I didn't know Joey, I didn't know
any of these guys, and uh, but yeah, just a fun,
fun just a great dude and a great teammate and
cares so much about the game and the organization and
the team and his teammates. It's been it was, it's
been a blast, you know, and something I would have

(11:47):
never had if I didn't have this opportunity to be
the GM here. And you know, go same goes with
you know, Khalil and Derwin. You know the energy Derwin has,
it's yeah. I mean I walked into coaches office and
Drwin was in there, and my first meeting A Derwin
and I last time I spoke to Durwin was at
the combine and man, I was ready, you know, I
was ready to run through a wall for Derwin.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
You know, it's just weird. It's a weird energy that
you can just it's an aura, it's a presence.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
But speaking at Derwin, you mentioned this in your press
conference bringing back Elijah Bolten, how important that was because
A Elijah was a very productive player and proved himself
to be a Charger, but be opening up Derwin to
be Drwin. How impactful is it to bring Elijah back
for the long term.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think it's it's very impactful because you know, you
saw what we were able to do with the three
safeties on the field, and it's kind of a hallmark
of with Derwin at the hallmark of Jesse's defense, you know.
And so you know, we look at Derwin. We don't
look at Derwin as a safety. We look at Derwin
as Derwin, you know, And so you get him near
the line of creative and you can do so many
things with me. Have him played Nickel, you know, and
blits him off the edge like you're just having those

(12:56):
two with Derwin creates so much you know, variety with
our defense. So really excited to get him back. He
had a great year for us and and cited you know,
he was missed in Houston. Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt.
There's no doubt. And uh he was. He was wanting
to be here and we were wanting to back and
just great to get it done.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Have you noticed just in terms of we see so
many players now with the portal and you don't have
to sit out a year in nil is are there
certain traits that guys that come from D two or
D three or fcs to fbs like this chip on
their shoulder. It just feels like you can when you
when you watch film and you go back and like, oh, yeah,
this guy was here. It just do you have you

(13:35):
noticed something like that?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yes, yeah, certainly, Like you know, any any player that
starts at a lower level and whether you know now
it's changed, You're not going to get as many D
two players in the draft because they will have gone
from D two to D one right there in the portal.
You know. But yeah, you know, hey, I was overlooked,
you know, and and uh man, this is my opportunity.
And they yeah, they have a little bit of the

(13:57):
chip and and that fight and competitiveness to them. And
you know, I've been a part of T two players
in the past that we're drafted and you see it,
you know. And so when they get up to and
that's not the case all the time, but they get
up to the D one level through the portal, you
see that competitiveness and that fight and desire show up
at the next level. Then then you know you got.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Something when all things are even, is that something that
you like? Is that a is that a positive trait?
You're like, oh, you know what these guys kind of
is that one of those things? Yeah, it could be
a type break.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
The competitiveness, yeah, like the the desire, the passion for
the game, that mentality, yeah, you know, those are those
are the things you weigh. You know, you have the
player and then you start thinking about you know, you
start factoring in the background and you know the mentality
and the what type of teammate they are and their
character off the field, and you know those are the

(14:49):
real tiebreakers. But those guys that exude that and you know,
present that in in who they are, you know, definitely
helps you.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
You know, the compatibility rather between the front office and
the coaching staff was evident from the very beginning. This
is your first year working with Jim. You'd work with John.
What were the expectations going in and I'm sure it
exceeded it this year. And just the relationship that you
have with Jim, it's been so cool. You're batman now
he's robbing and vice versa, calling you chef Ortiz.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
What's it been like working with Jim. That's been awesome.
I mean, it's it's honestly, I can say this, it's
a joy to work with Jim. It is a lot
of fun, and it's every day, you know, and so
you know, certainly, coming in I had familiarity with him
because I knew him, but I'd never worked with him.
And obviously I know John and and the way John

(15:40):
was raised, and I knew Jim's father, and so I
knew it was instilled in both of them. And certainly
I've gotten to know Jim over the years as a coach.
But yeah, I knew it was gonna be great, and
it's exceeded the expectations because we just we truly have
fun together every day, and you know, just and that's
what the game about. Like this work hard, let's have fun.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
You know, last thing for you? You spend how many
years in Baltimore?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Twenty six?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Twenty six?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (16:07):
You raise your kids there they're baseball kids Orioles fans.
I'm guessing huge ools fans. Did they flip in twelve months?
You come to LA you get to see Oh Connie,
you get to see a World series, iconic Dodger Stadium.
Are your kids they Dodger fans already?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
All right?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So they should be. They So some of them have
been to a couple of Dodgers games and they had
a great time. Two of them, my younger du Jamie
and Julian. They've been to the games. They I took
him to one of the World Series games and they
had a blast. Okay, my Joey's still in Baltimore, so
Joey's Joey hasn't flipped, so he hasn't. Yeah, and Jack

(16:44):
doesn't know what he's missing. Jack, we're convincing, you know,
Jack is Jack sixteen years of Orioles, you know, and
so Jack may take a little bit of you know,
he's older, so he's more grounded in the Orioles are
rooted in with the Ools. So I got to work
with him on that. But you are good now whatever, great,
you know. So but now they've they've enjoyed it, and uh,

(17:07):
they're having fun. And it's what a year the Dodgers
had them, which is awesome. And gosh, you got even
better I think this year. So not to put expectations
on them, but certainly the whole, the whole world notes
are going to be pretty good again.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
But you know, to be in Los Angeles where there's
two of everything, you know, we got Luca with the Lakers,
the Dodgers, the Chargers winning eleven games, it's got to
be cool to be a part of this sports universe.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, it's great. I mean, there's a there's a lot
of excitement around l A sports, you know, and uh
and and I see why. You know, it's it's such
a competitive environment. But you know, I think you coach
says that iron Sharpern's iron. Well, that's what we're all doing, like,
you know, let's let's let's match what they've done, you know.
And so it's it's been fun.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
All right, backfields a camel back ranch. We got to
get them out there. We'll show you some some bullpen
sessions with we'll flip them in there.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, there you go. All right, Joe, I appreciate it.
Take care.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, all right, keep it a rolling here on Chargers
Weekly at the NFL Combine. Very please be joined by
Assistant GM Chad Alexander.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Chad.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
You did this last year. It felt like it was
a couple of months ago. It's been a year. What's
this year been like for you?

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Man?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Oh, it's been great, you know what I mean, just
just to be a part of a winning culture like
we've helped to try to establish here and you know
it's only been a year, but you know, to get
things kind of turned around and going in the right
direction and working with a bunch of great people. Obviously,
the leadership that's in place is outstanding. And then just
everyone working together and for one common goal. And you know,
we made the playoffs and not satisfied with that and

(18:35):
just trying to get better.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
And this is a huge piece of that process.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Yeah, the success, you know, in doing part to you
and that staff and putting together the right players. So
it would love to start where we were, you know,
a little under a year ago in the draft and
specifically that fifth round and kind of what what you
value in corners because I mean, I'm not trying to
take anything away from Tarheed, but you know, if you
look at the two, it's cam Heart's traits and you know,
all the measurables, and then you look at Tarhebe and

(18:59):
it's like, okay, here's here's a guy that kind of
knows the position, sees it feels it. So how do
you value those things, especially when they were selected so
close to each other, yet it feels like it'ld be
a completely different evaluation, Right.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Well, we value all those things, and you know, and
and and they are different players, but they bring a
lot of great qualities to the table, both of them,
and it's you know, it's a premium position, so obviously
we felt like it was a position of need, and
you know, we rolled the dice on two players with
you know, extremely high character, really competitive, they both love football.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
They're good in different ways.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Obviously they have different attributes that that they bring to
the table, but they're both you know, ultra competitors, and
they're versatile, and they're tough, and they're smart, and they're
good football players and they love football. So it was
it wasn't it wasn't that difficult of a decision. I
don't think for for for Joe or for myself or
anybody or Jim when we were on the clock.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I think those two guys.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
Were fortunate to get and we feel like we hit
it out of the park with both of them.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
But you hit it out of the park with the
with the draft class in general, starting with with Joe
and then moving up to get lad And obviously we
hope to see more Junior this year. He's hurt a
little bit, But how much of the combine is a
part of the evaluation process. If you could just go
back to last year seeing seeing Joe and Ladd and
Tarheeve and cam here. How much does this week play

(20:14):
into the overall evaluation.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
I think it plays a lot into it because even
though it's not a long period of time, it's only
a week, and we've been studying these players for months,
sometimes years, you know what I mean. So there's a
lot of collecting of information. So you get information from
coaches and from staff from the different colleges and talking
to different people. But now you get an opportunity to
actually talk to the player. You get an opportunity to
actually sit down in front of the player, see what's

(20:37):
important to them, See why they love football, you know,
what makes them such great competitors, what makes them great
at their craft and.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
The work that they put into it.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
So to get an opportunity to see them, to talk
to them, to get to know their personality, I think
that's invaluable.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
It really it really makes it makes a difference.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
And I think that was a huge part of the
reason why we were able to draft not such good
players last year, but such good such good people in general,
you know what I mean. Just getting to know their personality,
that was awesome.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
That's a so you mentioned good people and you know,
I want to make sure like there's people that there's
players that have issues off the field, and those are things.
So how big is the combine for you with some
of those players to be a little bit of a
long question, because I'm interested in how this works out
when you have off the field concerns. Are they the
same for every position? You're like, you know what, we're
willing to take a little bit more at this position

(21:22):
versus this position. Does that come into play at all?
And how big is the combine to talk to these
guys to see kind of why they have that issue
or that thing attached to them.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I think that's a good question.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
I think that does come into play a little bit
in terms of different positions, you know, being accepting of
certain things. But at the same time, you know, you
want to find out if they're great teammates, you know
what I mean, if they love football, if they're good
people in general, and you know, they're they're young kids.
So a lot of times these kids have gone through things,
you know what I mean, I've gone through adversity, and
you know, some of the times that's what makes them,

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you know, better at playing football. You know, the adversity
they've had to overcome for what reason. You know, they
all come from, you know, different backgrounds and things of
that nature, but the one common thread is just their competitiveness,
their love for the game, and the fact that they're
you know that they're really good players and that's why
they're here. And just to get a chance to get
to know them on a personal level from that standpoint,
I think is invaluable.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
You know, every off season presents unique challenges. Last year,
you guys brought in so many players on one year deals,
and Joe mentioned it in his press are twenty six
unrestricted free agents this year?

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
The good problem is that most of them hit and
most of them prove themselves to be Chargers. The fact
that you have so many guys to evaluate from your
own team versus free agency, then you have the draft.
How do you prioritize the guys who popped as Chargers
this past year and try to bring as many of
them back because it's not an easy task.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
It's not an easy task, and just like Jim said,
we'd love to bring everybody back, you know what I mean.
I felt like it was a great team who had
great team chemistry, players that really cared for one another
and played for one another, and played for the coaches
and for the love of the game. And so you'd
love to bring everybody back, knowing that's probably not a reality,
probably won't be able to do that, but we know them.
So it's like we have a head start on our

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unrestricted free agents because we know their personalities, we know
they're how coachorable were they are, we know, you know,
we have a development plan for them, you know, going forward.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
So that's that's definitely a positive.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
And then the other you know, players across the league,
you know, we do as much investigating as we can.
We try to find out as much background as we
can about these players, because again, it's it's really important
to bring you know, really good players in here, and
we want to be successful and all that, but it's
just so ultra important to bring the right person into
the locker room.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
You know, you bring up a great point, and you
didn't have that luxury last year of knowing the guys,
knowing how they fit in the system and the culture.
How much of an advantage is that this year versus
last year. Knowing that some of the guys you want
to keep you know, for being in that locker room
right well.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Last year, you know, it was unique because we didn't
know Joe and I didn't necessarily know these players intimately,
but at the same time had leftovers from the old staff.
Lou Clark did an outstanding job of just letting us know,
you know, the personalities of the players. You know, Dennis Abraham,
Ed McGuire obviously, Katie Silvan and Tyler Line and so
many people that were here and holdovers from the previous

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staff did an outstanding job of just laying out the
details of each player, all their personalities, what they bring
to the table, and their strengths and their weaknesses, and
so we were able to make informed decisions based on that.
So I thought, you know, the background work that those
that those people did was outstanding from that regard, and
the same things continuing this year.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Is there do you have your like, is there an
individual philosophy that you then reconcile with a team philosophy
And some of the I don't know if I want
to call in cliches, but things that you hear about
with the draft premium positions in the first round versus
you know, and then running back is obviously something that
comes up. I mean you were at the Jets, you
got a great one in breast Hall and kind of
determining where you want to draft certain positions versus where

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they might stack up on your vertical board. Is that
different for every team? How you treat that or is
it draft great guys because this is where we have
them slot kind of like how does that all balance out?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I think you know you always want to draft, you know,
an I do the future obviously, but you don't want
to get too caught up on just Hey we need
to draft on need. We need to We need these
certain positions, so we have to go after these certain positions.
You just want to take the best player available, regardless
the highest player on your board. If not, he's going
to be sticking out like a sore thumb, and the
conversation is going to be had during the draft, Hey,
why don't we think about this player? You know, we
all like them, and you know this, this this seems

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like the way to go. And you know, nine times
out of ten, the way the way I see it
and throughout my career, those are the players that work
out the best. When you have a general consensus to
you know, everyone across the board likes them regardless of
the position. Regardless of Hey, this is a position, we
already have players here. They are starters, and well, you
know what, it's really important to build good depth in
the NFL as well.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
So I think you want to you.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
Always want to take the highest player available with in
mind obviously you know, players that you've already selected and
players that you know you might have strength on your
team and on your roster.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
So you know what's remarkable about the guys you selected
last year in the draft this year is you know,
Daniel Jeremi was just here, he said, Lad mccaukey would
have been a top fifteen pick this year. In terms
of wide receiver, Joe All probably would not have been
there at five. You know, this year with the amount
with the quarterback class last year versus this year, because
the quarterback class isn't as deep in the first round,

(26:18):
how does that affect thinking with teams that don't need
a quarterback that hey, maybe there's some other position groups
that may go earlier than expected.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Right, Yeah, No, it's amazing, and you know, quarterbacks just
one of those positions. Obviously, it's the most important position
in sports. So you know, you might say that, you know,
this year's class is not as good as last year's class,
But the bottom line is, when you don't have a
quarterback and you need a guy, and that guy that's
in the draft is better than the guy you have,
you're probably gonna end up having to take him, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
It's that important of a position.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
So you know, for us, we have the luxturer of
what we feel like, we have one of the best
quarterbacks in the league most definitely, you know what I mean,
a guy who is a great competitor, great player, and
so that gives us the luxury of not necessarily needing
a quarterback. But at the same time, it puts other
players down to us that you know that we find value.
And so that's that's always you're always operating, I think
from a position of strength when you have a guy
like Justin Herbert who's your quarterback and is just really

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just a cornerstone of your franchise, So that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Goes into projection evaluation when you're a gap team and
you're looking at an olignment or a center guard and
a running back that that have kind of running they're
running zone, Like, how can you project that? Can you
see it in the way they play? Is it harder
to have those guys you stay away from because all
they're doing is, you know, running zone and you're looking

(27:36):
for gap, Like, how does that all work out?

Speaker 5 (27:38):
I don't think you necessarily stay away from them. And
that's why I think this week is critical as well,
just for the coaches to be able to talk to
the players about their scheme. Hey, coach me through this.
What do you what are you doing on this play?
Talk to me about your technique, Talk to me about
your terminology. You know, we we value players on the
offensive line, especially that are big and athletic and versatile,
guys that can play different positions, Guys that are extremely smart,

(28:00):
guys that communicate well. So you know, gap scheme versus
own scheme. Yeah, we look at it, obviously, we do.
But you know, we football's football. You know, you look
for guys that are tough, big, fast, physical, smart, and durable,
you know what I mean. And across the office line
like that, those those attributes were vitally important, you.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Know, Chell.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
One of the things I think our fans appreciated so
much this past year is just how active you and
Joe were throughout the season, you know, bringing guys in,
making sure that you know, no stone was unturned. I
go back to the the Atlanta week, but Marcus Bay
comes in, makes an interception, comes off the streets like
three days before. How important is that to always keep churning,

(28:38):
always making sure that you are maximizing your roster, and uh,
to do it at a clip where you know, I
don't think we've really seen it.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah, I think it's really important. And Marcus made is
a great guy.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
You know, I knew him from when I was with
the Jets obviously, and you know, he's been a really
good player in this league for a long time. Came
in at a time when we needed him and made
a huge play and really played well down the stretches.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Unfortunately that he got.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Hurt there, but yeah, like we're always trying to turn
the bottom of the roster, and it's always in the
spirit of competitiveness, always trying to get better at certain positions.
You know, injuries happen. Things happen, and unfortunately sometimes we
have to let go of certain players and bring other
players in just to get through practice and to build
depth and things of that nature. But I think as
long as you keep that consistent competitive spirit on your

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roster and you always turn in the bottom of the roster,
always trying to get better through different ways, whether it's
through you know, before the trade deadline, through trades, picking
up guys, is you know, street free agents, bringing them
in for workouts, looking at guys that are on other
teams practice squads. I think that's really important because I mean,
you know, everything is done in the spirit of competitiveness,
and as long as you keep that going, I think
that builds a really.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Really good culture for your team.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
I we'd love to know, and I don't think you're
sharing state secrets. I hope you know that you'll kind
of get where I'm going with this. What happens in
the room in the seventh round when you're trying to
weigh who you select versus who's a priority free agent,
and how you come to the decision of which guys
you want to make sure you select versus the ones
you're willing to kind of roll that, like what goes

(30:07):
into those decisions.

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of discussion that goes
into those decisions. I mean, we're we're looking at We're
looking at the board, and we're looking at guys that
are out there, and and and and guys that are
available to draft, and and and who do we who
do we think, you know, we have a great shot
at getting a free agency those are the guys that
we're gonna you know, keeping that category. And sorry, we
feel like we have a good good shot at these

(30:28):
guys in free agency. We've been recruiting these guys, We've
been talking to their agents, we've been you know all
that stuff. And then there's other guys who are like, well,
we may not have a great shot of getting this
guy in for agency. Maybe he's a guy we need
to think about drafting right now, you know what I mean,
just to take any of the doubt out of it.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
So, yeah, so there's a lot of discussions.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
That happen, but uh, a lot of those discussions are
are are happening months in advance as well, you know
what I mean. Like when we go to the pro days,
we're recruiting players, We're telling them, hey, we like you.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
We really would love to draft you.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
If we don't get the opportunity to draft you, we'd
love to have you as a priority free agency so
those those routes are plannet that you know, early early
in the process.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
So Chad, last one for me, I'd love for you
to just take us into these interview rooms with the
prospects and you know what you're looking for in a charger,
starting with competitiveness. How vital are those interviews in terms
of kind of maybe weeding out the guys that don't
fit what it means to be a charger or maybe
having more conviction in a pick, being like, hey, that

(31:25):
was an oppressive fifteen minutes with this guy.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, some guys just just stand out, you know what
I mean. And just like everything else at the combine,
I mean, it's a competitive type situation, you know. I mean,
these guys are competing in each with each other, not
just on the field, not just through these drills, they're
competing with each other in these interviews as.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
So you want you want to get a good opportunity
to figure out their personality and you know, fifteen twenty
minutes is not a very long time to do that,
but just to get a snapshot of their competitiveness, you
know what I mean, of their football acumen, how smart
these guys are are they are they able to you know,
you know repeat, you know, do they have good recall
of the plays that that we're going through, the coaches
are going through and all that stuff. And a lot

(32:03):
of times, you know what, we've done so much background
and so much work on these guys and talk to
so many people that it checks out like it's just
it really does. I mean, it's just you know, you
talk to these guys and and and it's it's just
as you expect, you know, because because our scouts do
an outstanding job of collecting that type of information.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Last thing overall, Chad, we appreciate it. Small schools and
you know, guys that aren't invited. The Athletic just did
a big piece on Thomas Perry from Middlebury and like
everybody's talking about him now, like what goes in You
only have so many guys that can go out and
see these guys in person, these players in person. You
can get the tape, But is it harder? Is it
easier with the transfer portals to become easier? Because those

(32:42):
kids find their ways? So like kind of what's changed
in all the years you've been doing this when it
comes to those small school guys that can end up
having a huge impact.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
It has changed a little bit. And you know, shoot
man like just like you know Jared Vers, you know
what I mean, guys that start out at.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Small schools and then go to big schools.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
It makes it a lot easier obviously for scouts, but
also think that you know, just to see their competitiveness
and you know, certain guys obviously aren't invited to the Combine,
but you get to see him at the All Star Games,
you know what I mean, And do they play up
to their level of competition.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
That's really important for me.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
I like to see a guy if he's from a
small school but he's showing out at the Senior Bowl
doing a great job, then hey, that's a guy you
need to keep on your radar because that's a guy
that rises his level of competition and and and can
play you know, and it's proven, he proves that he
can play with with the best players in the country.
So yeah, that that's really important. But it's it's not easy.
It's it's difficult. It's difficult to be able to kind

(33:30):
of find those diamonds in the rough and and and
and from the small school standpoint.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Chat you're the man. We appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
As always, a busy off season ahead, we're looking forward
to it.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Thanks you, guys, appreciate it. You got it well.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
The best draft analyst in the business happens to be
on our team.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Daniels Jeremiah. You said indie famous, indie combine famous.

Speaker 6 (33:49):
This wait mean I'm like the easter bunny. You know
you hearing about me one day a year. Let's go. Yeah, exciting.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Thank you for being with us, sir. This never gets
old for you. H what's it been like this.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Week so far?

Speaker 6 (34:01):
It's fun, man, I love it to me. It's great
to see all your friends. You know, you've been doing
this for a long time, so you get to see
guys just a couple times a year, so catching up
all your buddies with teams is fun. And then look,
I love watching this event. When I was just you know,
growing up, and when this thing first got on the air,
when I was just started scouting, it was always the

(34:21):
event itself I enjoyed. I like watching guys run fast.
Call me crazy. I know everybody that's the underwear Olympics
is set and the other like, if you don't like
watching guys run fast, then we can't be friends.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
So I'm going to maximize your time here. DJ your
latest mock Amari and Hampton to the Chargers, kind of
give us an idea because you've talked about this being
a deep running back draft. So Amar and Hampton at
twenty two versus you know, kind of what the other
running backs are. Let's just say starting like four, if
you wait till the fourth round or something like that,
and what the Chargers might get there.

Speaker 6 (34:51):
Yeah, I think there's Again, it is a deep draft
at running back, and I think you'll find some big
guys and you'll find some change of pace guys. There
aren't many that are two hundred and twenty plus pounds
that give you the home run ability, the pass catching ability,
and all the running stuff that you want. He gives
you all that in one package, so you can find

(35:12):
backs later on in the draft. There's some intriguing names,
you know, like Samson from Tennessee who's got some home
run ability. I think there. I think that's an element
that they definitely want to get. Is someone that when
you get with this offensive line, a crease instead of
singles and doubles, like we start seeing some triples and
some home runs. So that's what I think they'll be
looking for.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
What do you do you think it's changed with you know,
just kind of front offices of like kind of balance
the hey, we draft this guy in the first round.
It's a running back, and with the franchise tag not
being big, it's like you get six years. Do you
think there's value in that versus the people that say,
get a running back later, get a premium position in
the first round.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
No, to me, when you have the premium positions, do it?
You know that's the Detroit Lions, you know thing, and
everybody's okay, they took Gibbs, like, gosh, how you take
a running back to the high Well, you can take
a running back high when you've got Aiden Hudginson, the
premier pass rusher, when you've got Sewel the premier tackle.
They had. You know, they went and got the secondary
the following year, but they had those cornerstone pieces. They
had the quarterback. So when you have those things in place,

(36:10):
My whole argument on running backs is I just want
all their carries to matter, and I don't want to
be a team picking in the top five and in
Saquon Barkley, perfect example. The Giants weren't good enough. Saquon
Barkley is a thy, twelve hundred yard rusher, They're not
winning a ton of games. Doesn't make a whole lot
of sense. Philadelphia Eagles pay him top of the market
and free agency. Well, guess what their team's ready to

(36:31):
win right now. Now he's a two thousand yard back,
and now that does looks like a pretty good investment.
So the Chargers with the quarterback, the left tackle, you know,
a lot of the key pillar pieces in place. I
think every single one of those carries for a guy
like Lamara Hampton, Amar and Hampton in that six year
window would be valuable.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
DJ tight end is interesting. We don't think Warrant's going
to be there at twenty two from pet State. I
wish he would be that, I know, right love Loveland potentially.
What's the gap between maybe those those first two guys.
I know you have four in your top fifty tailor
from LSU and Arroyo.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Yeah, I think that there's just less questions with the
top two and you get both the premiere talent and
ability different skill sets, but premier guys with those two
two of the top ten players in the draft, and
I just don't know that there's a lot of holes there,
whereas Arroyo, like Arroyo's explosive dynamic, unfortunately not going to
work out here, but he's got injury history, so you've

(37:24):
got to navigate around that. Taylor, I love, is an
option in the second round. He's polished, you know exactly
what you're getting with him, but maybe not that high
end explosiveness. You know. In that regard those top two guys,
you get guys who can hit home runs, big plays
a little differently with the physicality of Warren and the
size and fifty to fifty balls boxing guys out, whereas

(37:46):
Loveland's gonna make you miss like we see Kelsey twice
a year, and his ability to kind of get in
and out of breaks, option routes, things like that. Lovelin
can do all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Will you have padres A's Mariners, Reds and Royals on
a separate screen spring training? That's that's your spring training run.
Will you distract yourself during the nine hours of combined
coverage with a nice two hour window of padre spring training.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
We go to the side set every now and then,
and that's what I'm saying, when we go to the
side set, there's a very good chance I'm watching Tearsore
Nilis and Egi Rosario. There we see who can who
can compete for that last bench.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
John, I don't know how you do it anyway with
all the names in the draft, and now we're we're
breaking out spring training now our forty man roster.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
Podcast Money Money knows this too, because this happens all
the time with me, but this time of year, I'm
jamming these names in and then like I could even
be like a Chargers team that I call each and
every week and he'd be like, you know, what what
do you think of the you know the guards that
you know? Is there? Who do you think starts at
that guard spot? And you know, opposite of Zion? And like,
Jamari saw your's name nowhere in my.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Brain it happened in the Houston game.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
It's gone, It's gone.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 (38:53):
I'm just glad I remember the names of my kids.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
What about so let's go to guard free agency versus
you know, draft. What goes on in the front office
when it's like, okay, we've got all this money to spend,
here's Will Fries here's you know, trace whatever versus okay,
we think Booker MBU like these guys Karen both might
be there. Like how does that work when you weigh
we've got money to spend versus we've got draft capital.

Speaker 6 (39:18):
I always, you know, to me identifying kind of your
big needs. And I like going into the draft if
you're not picking at the very top, you know, top five,
top ten. I like being able to say, this is
my this is my biggest need. Let's get a play
at least we're gonna get a placeholder, someone that we
can upgrade over what we have at this biggest need.
So you know, I don't want to go into the
draft and have a gun to my head where I
have to take one of these guys and now I'm

(39:39):
having to maybe trade up. I don't really want to
do that, but you know I have to do it.
You don't want have tos in the draft. You want
to be able to let the draft faul to you
and then take the best, you know, type player. And
that's what our tea's grown up on. I mean, that's
the Baltimore way of doing things. So you know, everybody,
do you wait on it?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (39:55):
No, no, you go get a guard in free agency,
you go get one. Now you got to find, you know,
where you're comfortable with value wise. But I don't think
that's one thing where you say, well, you know, it's
a pretty deep group and we'll just kind of see
how the draft falls. And I don't personally, I don't
think you.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Can do that.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
How does it balance, like, because it feels like it's
a pretty good free agent guard class, right you kind
of got just and you can speak to it, I can,
you know, but just Zeitler and McCary and Fries and
Smith and all that is it Is there good value
out there where you're not writing too big of a check.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Yeah, I think the problem is And this is and
I even could pull up the this is my go
to right here. Also it's behind the curtain here. So
this is when you take every team and then you
go through and you find their biggest needs. And I
keep this with me. And what happens is when you're
looking at this stuff and you start seeing, you know what,
we're not the only team that needs an interior offensive
line that fans out everybody. There's a lot to do

(40:47):
so and the other thing is we have so many
young quarterbacks that teams are hoping are going to take
the next step, and there's issues with offensive line. But
in Chicago, so you're there's a lot of people shopping
in that market. So I think it's you can look
at the depth of it in free agency and say,
maybe you're gonna get a value with Zeitler. I could
give you five teams that are gonna think that's a

(41:08):
pretty darn good value. It's probably gone on. I think
that those prices and teams have more money, there's more space.
I think you're gonna see. I think you're gonna be
shocked at what some of these guys get.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
You talk about defensive tackle and how loaded it is
in this draft, and you know, Joe's just talking about
twenty six underd stixted free agents for the Chargers, and
that holds Tierre Tart, Puna Ford, Morgan Fox. How does
this draft class and how deep it is a defensive
tackle maybe dictate what they do in free agency and
what is the drop off between, you know, a defensive
tackle you would get in the late first round versus

(41:40):
maybe the second or the third.

Speaker 6 (41:41):
Done this year, there's twenty four potential starting defensive tackle
in the Draft twenty four. Last year I had twelve.
And again that's just one opinion. That's just how I
see them. Other teams see it differently. I have never
seen a year with this much depth, and I'll be
shocked that's one will have an I'll be shocked to
have an impact in free agency. Set your price. I

(42:01):
love Punaford and we saw what he did last year.
He played it a very high level. But I think
you're going to get to a number and say here's
the number. We want you back. We'd love to have
you back, but this is the number, and if you
want to go north of that, you got to go
get it somewhere else, because we're welcome.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
We have a million of these guys lined up in
the draft. So we see the Chiefs do it all
the time. There's a are the Eagles. There's a prospect
that slides, and people have their concerns, and those are
the two teams that jump out at me and they're like,
we'll take them and they'll figure it out. Feels like
Walter Nolan is that guy from Ole miss Just kind
of what are you hearing about him versus what you

(42:36):
see Some people that I've talked to have said, this
is far and away the most explosive guy at that position,
But there are teams that have issues like what's going
on with him at the top, Like what would his
number be if it was all good? Like where is
he going to get drafted versus where he might get dried.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Well, he's got the he's got the toolkit of a
top ten, top twelve pick, like just size explosi. He
was a number one recruit in the country's He's been
this guy his whole life. It's all in there. He's
got it all in his body, you know. My thing
with him that sometimes is more so than often. There's
a lot of when the battle lose the war where
you're like, gosh, he just whipped this dude in front

(43:13):
of him and they have the ball went the other way,
Like he's got to be able to be you know,
find the football, have more plays to show for it,
have more production to show for how freaking explosive and
athletic that you are. So I think there's some safer
players that might get elevated over him. Defensive line, offensive line.
I chased the floor. I don't want to have any
tomato cans. I want to have just you know you're

(43:34):
a strong as your weakest link defensive line. I want
I want to chase Upside go to the ceiling and
he is a ceiling dude.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
You know, Horties hit it out of the park with
Alton did. He's saying in.

Speaker 6 (43:43):
By the way I talked to him before he went
up them all you're getting ready to go up here
and say absolutely, well, we we.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Had to coming up.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
So's we get I asked no questions, so we can
get it all right here.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
That's what I did.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
But to get lad and to see what he did
last year, it's expensive to pay for a wide receiver,
and free.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Agency gonna go north t Higgins. I don't think he's
gonna get out there, but if he did, you're talking
about thirty million.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
So in the talk this offseason is okay, what can
you do to maximize justin Herbert? Get him some skill
guys in the draft, Like what do you see at
the wide receiver position? A lot of star power last year?
Like how would you evaluate what it is this year
versus last year?

Speaker 6 (44:23):
I'll say last year? Like if you looked at the
grading skill that I used it or same one that
Joe uses, Like there's a there's a grade of sixty seven,
which is it's just like you're talking about Pro Bowl
caliber players. And last year, I think overall, positionally, you know,
across boards, not just wide receiver. I think I had
like eighteen or nineteen. This year there's like six to seven.

(44:43):
And that that's just an example. But as you get
to the wide receiver position, there's there's a million starters.
Like there's a million good solid guys, could be number twos,
maybe you know, eventually really good threes, potentially some twos.
But I mean, last year, you're getting lad McConkie. Ladin
Conky in this draft would be a top fifteen pick,
you know. So it's and that's not revisionist history, like

(45:05):
based off what we saw is I'm saying George Georgia
lad Conky in this draft would have been a top
fifteen pick.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
All right, last thing for you to get you on
your way here, I just saw Jordan Reid from ESPN
walking behind us. He's all suited and booted, and I'm
looking at you quarter zip kind of disheveled, your shirt
tails hanging out there underneath the quarter zip.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Just kind of with the idea behind it's that.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Soft fabric too.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It's that you know I had to do.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
I had to take the shower and I had to
kind of hang that thing up and.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
There you go, get a little wrinkles out of it.
You got a like that, a list actor who just
wears whatever he wants. You got the you got the
Golf Bay appointment. A little bit later at the Roger
done up the road or something like that. But we
got going here, DJ. I think I found something last week.
Oh yeah, I think I found I found something here.
I think I planned out the backswing a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
I did.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
I just was launching that hybrid really well. It's a
post I think it was a post conference call, relaxed
version of my golf games.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Golf you getting in these days right now much.

Speaker 6 (45:55):
I hadn't played in a long time. But once I
finished that conference call, I was like, I'm we're gonna
go out there, and I'll tell you. I took my son,
who's seventeen, out on the big course for the first time.
He only played the par three and I think this
was a second the second hole, I mean, I've never
seen the rock was maybe thirty feet in front of us.
That thing hit so hard, and it was backwards and

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it was yeah, it was back on the tips, back
back behind.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
It all dangerous.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Man.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, you don't get out of the way. You're showing
up here, little little dot on your forehead.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Like we got home and I said, hey, we didn't
hit any houses. We flushed a few in the water,
but we didn't hurt Anybody's right, that's a wine.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
If you don't have to utter the words umbrella policy,
you're right, it's a great problem.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I do.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
I do have some for your clothing information though I
made some purchases, so we have we got I'm pushing
pushing it a little bit, uh fashion wise this week.
So we've got three new sport coats. Okay, we're gonna
have a little fun. Probably gonna catch some heat from
some folks out there, but we're trying to.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
Hollywood suit outlet. Yeah no, because you get what you
get there. If you get six coats, you get four
pairs of pants. You get like I pocket squares.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Bro here here to ford belt, put him for belt,
put them on Instagram and like rate like grade them afterwards, right, A,
B and C.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
I mean. And the funny thing is the guy at
Men's Warehouse told me I can't alter anything.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I said. They all fit.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Great, exactly right. Go continue your your car watch here, sir,
Thank you very much. Thanks all right, a successful episode
one here in n D and money. This is just
the beginning.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah, so as slated as it is scheduled right now,
just off the top of our heads, we'll have all
the NFL network folks. Danny Markino doesn't even come over
to say hello. He just waves his hand and walks
out the door. What a big big league does. What
a jerk Chicago now exactly right, thinks he's all special
working for the Chicago Bears. Chirk so uh still to come.

(47:44):
Our friends at NFL Network, Lancer a Line uh CD,
Charles Davis, two of the best lances. There's no one
better on offensive line. Can't wait for that one than Lance.
So you got that. You got Charles Davis. Mina is
going to join us tomorrow. He's in, he's walking around.
Minakime's going to join us, I believe as well. We
got Brett Coleman, our friend. Bretta does awesome film work,
and I'm sure many of you subscribe to that. We

(48:06):
got Bruce Feldman Freaks List, Mike Tennenbaum, former general manager
someone I absolutely scared the crud out of his first
ever media appearance. And he comes up to him, Oh yeah,
it comes and sits on the field and he sits
at the desk and he's like, so, so, how long
are we going to be doing this?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I said seven.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Hours, Mike, So I hope you got a little a
little bit of notes here on everybody, because you're looking
at a host and you're the guy that's supposed to
know all this stuff. He just looked at me like
a like a deer in the headlights. He's like, I'm
just kidding, man, I gotta taken care of don't worry
about it. Just sit here and weigh in with whatever
you got. So Mike Tennenbaum is going to join us. Uh,
Dame Bruler is going to check in exactly from the
Athletic and the Beast, And I feel like I'm forgetting somebody,

(48:49):
ten people exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
That's uh, that's how busy. Stacy Dale's is going to
join us. Now, she's waving me up. Everybody's blowing me off.
You know, it's like whatever, dech with that guy. It's great.
It's great to be here. So be sure to check
your feed every single day because we're going to keep
loading it up.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Favorite week of the year for charges weekly because we
just pack them all in all these interviews. So hope
you guys enjoyed episode one. Appreciate you watching listening.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
We'll see you tomorrow. I'm charge this weekly