Cowboys StoryLine: Making a Splash?

The Cowboys haven’t been big players in free agency in recent years but it hasn’t stopped the callers from hoping for a change this year and they’ve got a couple of big names in mind.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman. What's up? Welcome
to Cowboys Storyline. It feels like it's been a minute,
because it has been. It's been a week since we've
been on here talking Cowboys football with you guys. There

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has been some changes, not the biggest of change obviously
with the Schottenheimer news last week, but Cowboys continue to
add to the coaching staff. Won't be a lot of
player personnel moves between now and the starter free agency.
Maybe a couple here and there, but the biggest news
will be from the coaching staff and then as we

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get closer to free agency and the draft as well.
All right, when isday? February of the fifth. Probably could
have said that a little bit earlier, but I think
you guys know the date. Give us a call, aight,
a A eight five five two two nine seven. We
can talk for a little bit today. We can at
least an hour and a half. There is no show
after this, so uh, of course, I'm sure Chris has

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got stuff to do in the back. He hasn't want
to sit and take calls all day long, but this
might be a day if you want to get in.
If you're like Man, I never get to get in,
never get to call. Today's the day. Let's go, let's
get it done. We already have two on the line.
We're going to start in New Mexico, Gary in New Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
What's up, hey, Leick?

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Happy off season?

Speaker 6 (01:36):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
All right, appreciate it. How are you doing.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I'm doing wonderful.

Speaker 7 (01:39):
Now I have a Dallas Cowboys super Bowl trivia question
for you, okay, But before that, I just have to
comment on this whole coaching thing. Okay, Okay, I'm all
in with Schottenheimer. I wasn't at first, and then I
watched your interview with him that you did right after
he got hired, right and I liked what I heard.

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I think this is a man that has a respect
for the history of the game and for the history
of this franchise, and that's important to me. And I
really I like the fact that they're kind of going
outside the organization and outside the box for some of
these assistant coaches. I think that's a good thing. And
had they had they not re signed Dak, had this
been a total rebuild. Then I would have really wanted

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a Dion Sanders or somebody like that. But because they're
tied to DAK and CD the way that they are,
this hire makes sense. And I know a lot of
people don't agree with that.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
But let's give the guy a.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
Chance, man. I mean, I want him to win. I
want them to succeed. I want Schottenheimer to succeed, and
and let's just see how this thing turns out.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
But with that, but with that said, let's go back
to history. Let's have some fun.

Speaker 8 (02:50):
It's Super Bowl week, right, Okay, So.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
Of the Cowboys five Super Bowl teams, which one had
the most Hall of Famers? And you can include executive
branch if you want to. It doesn't change the answer.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Okay, Well, I mean you would you would think I
would think if and I don't know this at all,
I would think right down the middle, I would think
the seventy seven seems like it crosses over the most.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
That's closed. They're number two. It was the seventy one
team on the very first team because he got and
there's that, yeah, man, because you got uh, you had four,
you had Landry Brandt and Shram. You also had Ernie Stautner,
who was the defensive assistant Landry stop defense. So you
had fourteen total Hall of Famers on that seventy one team,
four in the coaches, in the front office. You had

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ten players. All ten were starters, five on offense and
five on defense. And there's a lesson in that that
the Cowboys from the day can learn from. On offense,
you had Roger Staubach, rayfield Wright, Bob Hayes, Mike Ditka,
and Lance Alworth. Those are the two that are forgotten,
but that those were both acquired players that score touchdown

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on that Super Bowl. And then on defense you had
Bob Lilly of course, Chuck Hallie and then three fourths
of your secondary Cliff Harris, No Renfro and Herbert.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah I thought her been there.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
Yeah, that's who they acquired from the Green Bay Packers.
And if you look at that team, and you know,
back then, the Cowboys were no My dad used tell
me this all the time. They were the team that
couldn't win the Big One. They had never done it
before seventy one. They were chokers, is how they were viewed.
And you look at how they built that seventy one team,
those first two Super Bowl teams. They did it through
the draft, they found undrafted free agency, but they also

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acquired players from other teams like Mike Ditka and Lance
Alworth and Herb Battery, and those guys were critical to
winning that first Super Bowl.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
So my point for that for Brian.

Speaker 7 (04:42):
Schottenheimer is give him the tools that he needs and
use every tool in the toolbox.

Speaker 9 (04:47):
You know, you've got to be.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Willing to use every tool in the toolbox to acquire
talent for this team. So I hope that I hope
that they do that. But anyway, love your show. Let
the other callers get.

Speaker 10 (04:58):
On, man.

Speaker 7 (04:59):
I appreciate taking my call. Thanks.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Thanks Gary. A good mix of the trivia and and
the history, but also current stuff as well. That reminds me.
We have a series going on this week on on
our website. Tommy Yarish is down in New Orleans and
he got a chance to talk to Brandon Aubrey and
Zach Martin yesterday. But he's also doing a series on

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the five Super Bowl teams the Cowboys have had and
what those teams had that this team needs. And of
course you could always say, well they had in it,
you know, or Troy or whatever, but but just just
what what you know? What was missing? Some specific things?
I think today we're on the third one of the
ninety two team, so be on the lookout for that.

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It's a it's an interesting series called Superpowers what those
Super Bowl teams had and what made them what they are.
Let's keep it rolling here. Robbie and Coco Beach, Florida
is our next caller.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
What's up, my man?

Speaker 11 (06:00):
And Nick?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
How are you to David?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
How are you?

Speaker 12 (06:03):
I am outstanding man. It's like seventy six degrees right, sunny.
It's a beautiful day.

Speaker 13 (06:09):
Man.

Speaker 12 (06:10):
Kids are happy and healthy. Good hope for you and
uh and Chris of course and everybody there.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well they're happy. I don't know about healthy. The flu
is running through the whole this whole state over here.
So it's been crazy.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
We all had it last week or two weeks ago. Yeah,
everybody's good now.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So all right, mom, what do you got?

Speaker 14 (06:30):
So?

Speaker 12 (06:30):
You know?

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Super Bowls?

Speaker 12 (06:31):
When they announced the Hall.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Of Famers, right, it's correct?

Speaker 13 (06:38):
Is Darren still in it?

Speaker 12 (06:39):
Or I should say mister Woodson because I don't know him,
but I feel like I call him wood He need to.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Be my friend.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
He would be he would be.

Speaker 12 (06:46):
He just seems like such a good guy. I mean,
I've said this before, but.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I don't think he would actually like mister Woodson. I
don't you know, I don't think that would be. He'd
be like, come on, come on, man, call me Darren
or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, he's still he's one of the finalists.
We'll see.

Speaker 12 (07:04):
Well, you know what, we're hoping and praying for him
to get in. And and more so than that, man,
the guy deserves it. A good Christian, a good person,
a people person. He represents everything the NFL should be
the young kids.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
You know, is.

Speaker 12 (07:17):
Awesome, right person and you're lucky to have him in
your life, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Well you're you're right about that, and that to me
that that stuff matters. I mean being in the Hall
of fam mean, there are there's a lot of great
players that that aren't aren't in it. There's a there's
a lot of great people that weren't in it either.
But but you know, he's a combination of both and
and and if you can't and if you weren't an

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awesome player, you you're not you know, even in the conversation,
I get that this isn't about Sunday school teachers and
all that. I I get that, but he he just
like you said, you said it best. I mean, he's
everything that the league would want in a player from
top to bottom. So it's it's it's amazing that it's
taken this long.

Speaker 12 (08:02):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
I agree.

Speaker 12 (08:03):
You know, it's shames me when guys like the player
I think. You know what I'm talking about is ourselves
what I call them. I mean, a phenomenal player. Yeah,
he doesn't come with the NFL. You know he shouldn't anyways.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well that's what I'm saying. You got to be above
and beyond all of that. And he was talking about
t Owins. He was like he was every bit the
player good enough to be in there. And you know,
we we can go on and on about about Teo.
I mean, guy really didn't get in trouble anything like that.
He was he was an interesting person in the locker

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room and he you know, he kind of affected what
what the dynamics of your locker room. But as far
as the player goes, I mean, he's had three really
good seasons here in Dallas. He's one of the best receivers.

Speaker 12 (08:55):
Phenomenal.

Speaker 14 (08:56):
I agree, I agree.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
But but but yeah, that's the thing with.

Speaker 12 (09:01):
You after the word but right, yeah, all right, so hey,
I'm happy with the new coaching at least I'm hopeful
for the new coaching. And I know you're gonna take
a lot of calls, but I just wanted to touch
on Woody because I know we're getting closer.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Man, I hope the best for him.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
All right, Well, I appreciate you, thanks, Robbie. Appreciate that.

Speaker 14 (09:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
That reminds me we were getting close to the end
of this fiscal year. I guess you would say for
the storyline, which means it's getting time start looking at
the all storyline team for twenty twenty four, twenty five
T shirts. We'll have some T shirts again this year.
Trying to figure out the the uh we figured out

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the design is not going to change the color we
might might might go to more of a bluish this year.
But trying to figure out the team, who's going to
be on it, all that stuff, And uh, I say
that with Robbie, it called Robbie, I think you gotta
I think he got a spot. Think you you've you've
figured out a way to get in there. You've called
a lot. Had some great calls when you do call,

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not to give away the team, but pretty good shot there.
All right, let's keep it going here to uh, let's
go to Carolina. He's driving in Tyler, Texas, Carolina. What's up?

Speaker 5 (10:23):
You know?

Speaker 11 (10:23):
I'm back with it, man, Yeah, I was ready of all. Man.

Speaker 10 (10:26):
How you doing?

Speaker 12 (10:27):
Man?

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Going great?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
How's it? How's it going there on the road. You
always seem to be in that Texas area. I mean,
are you Are you just back and forth orre you
just kind of in the circle there in Texas?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
I got it.

Speaker 10 (10:40):
I'm back and forth. I got to dedicate it route.
I go from South Carolina to California and back. Yeah,
goes to the west coast.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Man, But Texas, I'm not the best for geography, but
Texas is the best way. This goes straight through, straight through.

Speaker 10 (10:59):
For me, he is the best way because I don't
like the mountains and all the weather chains. So I
just stay out of forty and let forty be forty.
I got it, and I just come through Jixas. You know,
I might be taking it a little bit longer, but
at least I know it's the safe way.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
They are fair like that, all right, what do you got.

Speaker 10 (11:16):
Okay Man A couple of things. Did they come out
with the official offense coordinator yet or they're still up.

Speaker 15 (11:23):
In the air.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, they hired the offensive coordinator and now I forgot
his name. No, Clayton Adams. Clayton Adams felled with a K.
Clayton Adams. He's he is like he's been an offensive
line coach with Arizona. And from everybody that I that
I've kind of talked to about this one and people

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that have around the league that this is a good one.
This is a good good get for Shottenheimer. Just a
young mind that a lot of people really liked. And
so he was an offensive line coach. That's how you
make him. That's how you promote him. You promote them
because you call him the offensive coordinator even though he's
probably not. He's not going to call the play. Schottenheimer
is going to do that. But that's how you get

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players or sorry, coaches out of contract by promoting him
that way. So he's the offensive coordinator, same as Schottenheimer
was not calling the plays last year, but the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 10 (12:19):
So is it an in house high or we got somewhere?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, he's from Arizona last year. He's the Arizona offensive
last year. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah?

Speaker 10 (12:29):
Oh man, Well, I mean I like to said, I
really don't really know too much about them. It's a
whole bunch of you know, new stuff going on from
when it sounds right everybody. So they won't change. So
I mean, I guess that, you know, change is the
trajectory of how it's going to go next year hopefully anyways.
But man, my my thing is I just I want

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to I want to see what they do with my guys.
You know, I'm bring them up Deuce Bond because I
think this is last year right on the contract.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, you drafted. This is his third year, right, he
should have four years when draft picks have four years
on there other than first rounders, but you have four
four years, so this is just his third year. He's
not up for a contract. I think he's I think
it's close to like from for decision making, like what,

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you know, I don't think he would have This is
probably the do or die year for him though. If
he if he doesn't have a great training camp or preseason,
you know, I could see them moving on. He hasn't
done done a Ton. But but then again, the new scheme,
maybe they're going to figure out some some things to
do with him.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
Yeah, I would, I would hope. So, man, I mean
I already buve jersey.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, yeah, you're invested in Yeah, I understand, I understand
why you would want want that to happen. Those jerseys
are aren't aren't cheap?

Speaker 10 (13:56):
No, A couple of bucks, definitely not.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, especially well play the whole.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (14:02):
I've been waiting though, I've been saiful.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 10 (14:06):
Yeah, that's I've never really ain't got too much, you know,
not too much really going on. Man. Hey, I heard
you say getting that that team together. Man, you can't
give out who's gonna be on that. But I hope
I got my spot in there. Man, it's on a faithful,
faithful caller.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yep, it's gonna be some tough decisions. But uh, I
like you know, we don't really have a limit. So uh,
I think everyone, I think everyone will be all right.
I think everyone's gonna Yeah, I'm not I'm not giving
away anything else, but I think I think most people
will be pleased with with where they where they end up.
That's what I think. We're still working on.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
You said, you're doing the Living team this year, so
they give a couple extra guys chance to give you know.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
First team, second team, and third team. It's not like
Jerry with the Ring of Honor. You know, it's not
a one man committee. I mean it has been last year.
But you know, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get Beam
involved a little bit more this year. Let him you know,
he talks to you guys as much as I do
because because you know the interactions on the phone and stuff.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
So Selby and I saying, if you got to put
you in his backpack, I'm all for.

Speaker 12 (15:12):
All.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Hey keep trucking. Appreciated, Carolina. He's safe on the highways there.
All right, let's go to Kansas City, where my man
Brian knows a little bit about the All Story nine team. Brian,
what's up?

Speaker 14 (15:27):
Well, good morning, sir.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
How are you good? How are you?

Speaker 14 (15:31):
I'm doing great, man. I was so glad to hear
Gary in New Mexico talk about some of the old
time teams. So I'll start with my trivia question because
I know one hundred.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Percent you're going to get this.

Speaker 14 (15:43):
What was what's the connection between the Broncos and the
Cowboys on the Cowboys roster.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
That year.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
On the Cowboys roster.

Speaker 14 (15:53):
Yeah, think about think about later years. Who was on
that roster?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Oh, Tony Dorsett was a rookie. About Tony rst as
a rookie. They went to Denver.

Speaker 14 (16:03):
Oh, I got two there's two people? Sorry, who's it?
There's another one? You got the right position? Who who
else was in the backfield with him?

Speaker 9 (16:12):
Well?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
New House was back there and Scott Lee Dan Reeves. Okay,
I guess I didn't realize that Dan Reeves was on
that team. He was on this he was on the
seventy seven team.

Speaker 14 (16:25):
Oh, I got the wrong. Oh, I looked up the wrong. No,
let me think about that.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, I thought what you were going to say was
Craig Morton was the quarterback on the other team, you.

Speaker 12 (16:33):
Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, right now, that was the Dolphins.

Speaker 14 (16:36):
That was the year of the Dolphins. No, Reeves was
on the seventy one team.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, I think he's on seventy seven coaching staff, so.

Speaker 16 (16:44):
He might have been.

Speaker 14 (16:45):
Yeah, you might have been, he might have been.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I was looking into that team and they I thought
this was interesting. They outscored those that team in seventy
seven outscored in the three playoff games eighty three to
to twenty one in three games, and the eighty five
Bears were ninety one to ten in three games. So
that we always talked about eighty five Bears ninety one ten.

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This was like eighty three to twenty. It was, you know,
it was pretty close. It was just how dominant they
were in that seventy seven season. Got twenty three turnovers
in the playoffs, twenty three. I said, believe, no, I can't, wow,
I can't eight eight in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 (17:27):
So yeah, well that was that was the story of
that Super Bowl because the Broncos couldn't stop turning the
ball over. And you know, the other thing to me is,
you know we always talk about the modern offense has
all this motion and stuff. Goes back and watch that
game because our offense is all about motion. In that game, yeah,
I mean, they're going back and forth, you know, as

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you know, like like at a bust, like at the
bus line, you know, between the two sides and everything.
So and then the other thing I liked that he
brought up was, you know, it takes everything because it's
it's not just those rosters but that's exactly what happened
in the nineties. You know, you think about the key
acquisitions Charles Haley and Dion Sanders. You know, there's others,

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but those two specifically. Yeah, we're also the tipping point
you know for their for their their's seasons. That's what
it took to get us over the hump.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
And in both.

Speaker 14 (18:24):
Cases, you know you pointed out last time I brought
that up, we are also taking them away from our
who was our primary competition in those years.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's true. Yeah, So you know, I think I think
you're going to see it more this year with the Cowboys.
I they have a lot of spots to film. It's
the same think of it, like, yeah, I'll say this
off the off the air. When you're done and you
have any more questions, just.

Speaker 14 (18:50):
One more comment, man, and I'm hoping to get your
opinion on So, you know, looking at how things have
shaken out based on the coaching staff that's that they
put in place, because they're close to putting the whole
thing together now you know they're they're pretty close. What
do you think is the best direction for those high

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end draft picks based on who we have in place
and what they're going to be looking for. I'll take
the I'll take both of those off the air man.
Good to talk to you and glad to see that
you're doing okay and that flu epidemic you're having down there.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, we're hanging in there for sure. All right, Thanks Brian.
You know your your last question, similar to what you know,
kind of takes me down the road I was talking
about with what they're going to do. I mean free
agency is going to be the biggest part here of
like of that question about what were they do with
the draft? I do think because you have they're going

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to have I just think they're going to have some
holes going into the draft. They just can't cover up everything.
So what where do they go in free agency? Who
who gets re signed? And where do they you know,
where do they end up? Because I do think you're
gonna get into the draft, they're just gonna be thin
at positions and so it's like, well, you know they're

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gonna get a corner or a defensive tackle or running back.
The question is what round? What round do they do?
They get them in? But you're gonna have some holes
when you go in there. I think they're going to
be more active in free agency. I've said that before.
I think it's gonna be similar to the coaching staff

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in that obviously you got a whole staff to fill,
right you have a whole staff that was here before.
You want to take parts of these guys, or you
want to kind of do a little bit in house
and a little bit more on the outside. And I
think that's what free agency is gonna be here because
they've got twenty five guys that you have to resign,

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so that means you're probably gonna bring most you know
you're gonna fill those positions. Doesn't mean you're gonna resign
all of your own free agents, but you're going to
sign about that many. So I think that there's you're
gonna see a little bit more from the outside than
the inside, and which rightfully, so, I mean, this is
a seven and ten football team. You don't just bring
back the same guys and say, oh, running back, this

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is good enough. It wasn't. It wasn't good enough, but
with or without injuries, wasn't good enough. So you need
to you need to get better than what you have.
And so I do think they'll sign some of their
own players. I think you're gonna sign more from the
outside than we've seen in the past, and I think
from that it will look like they're a little bit
more aggressive and free agentsy free agency, but probably just

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a little bit more active. If all that makes sense.
Let's go to Ali. He's in Florida. Ali. How are
you pretty good, buddy?

Speaker 5 (21:49):
I I'm fine.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
I'm fine. I'm just saying everybody and everyone's been affected
by it one way or another, somebody that they know
in their house, whatever, I'm fine. I'm good to go.

Speaker 17 (22:01):
Yeah, because everybody I know around here also they have
the same thing.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 17 (22:06):
It's just like a all door for do.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (22:11):
So a couple of things. First of all, I don't
want EGO to win. I'm rooting for Casey. I want
to I just don't like the Eagle. So having said that,
I was thinking, maybe, you know, last time are called

(22:32):
I confuse you, So don't feel bad, but just bone confused.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
So basically.

Speaker 17 (22:43):
I was thinking I was telling you about the iceberg.
I don't know you've ever seen one, but you and
Chris and some of the podcasters are welcome to come.
I take you to Greenland. You see an iceberg size
of the AT and T Stadium, and it melt two

(23:03):
three weeks after that. It's just like nothing was there.
So it's weird, so sad. And then as far as
I was thinking about the draft, we are drafting on twelve,
and if you remember Washington game be lost within the
last six second or whatever, and from twelve, legally, if

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you wouldn't lose that game, you would have picked on
sixteenth positions. So I was thinking, just because we inherited
a twelve by a little bit of luck, and I
think we have a roomed to maybe a trade from
twelve if our players they want is not there. And
I had a good feeling that San Francisco is gonna

(23:52):
mess up mess with us either the trade other there
somebody want to get ahead of the Cowboys or they're
gonna take a cowboy the play Cowboys one. So I
was thinking maybe if it pushed back to go to
the sixteen or fifteen, then we can get them maybe.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
A coupled extra pick.

Speaker 17 (24:11):
I'm going to give a shout out to my favorite captain,
Rob Randy and Irene and the restored Liner.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Love you buddy, come up all.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Right, Thank you, Thanks Ali, here's the thing. I've said
this before too, but you you know, what's the Cowboys'
biggest need? Good luck with that answer. I mean it's
easier to say what they don't need. They have needs.
So that one player that everybody knows the Cowboys are

(24:43):
gonna want, I don't know if if they'll if it'll
be there, I don't know if it'll be that that way.
I guess if they don't sign a big name free
agent running back, which they probably will not, we'll enter
the draft with all right, well, are the Cowboys going
to take Ashton genty? And and is that going to happen?

(25:05):
And so that might be a player that if you
want to running back, you gotta get to eleven, you know,
you got to get up there. I could see that.
I could see that situation. But you know, if that happened, fine,
the Cowboys have plenty of options that they could go
h As that call was going on, I saw three

(25:26):
mock drafts in a row. I guess it was from
NFL dot com reporters or something. I can't read the
names of whose mock draft they are, but you know,
and I saw three different players go to the Cowboys
and none of them with Ashton Genty. Uh. So you know,
that's just the way the way it is right now.
I just think they have a lot of needs. And

(25:48):
I guess Brian from from Kansas City asked that question
about earlier, which which position would you go to free agency?
Is gonna tell us a little bit about that, But
I I think if you've if you've got you know,
if if it's if the running back is worthy enough
for being there, I'm for that. I'd be fine. If

(26:10):
it was a guard or a tackle on the offensive line,
I think you think that makes everybody better. I'd be
fine if it was the defensive tackle, you know, just
because you might not sign Osa and Mazzi hasn't proven
to be the guy yet. Pass rusher would be fine.
If it's a corner. I don't know if that will

(26:33):
be the case, but you know, if you definitely take
a corner that high if he was worthy of it.
So it's my points, just about any position would work.
All right, Let's go to uh Lester and Minnesota before
we take a break. Leicester, Minnesota.

Speaker 11 (26:47):
I mean, how you doing good?

Speaker 3 (26:50):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (26:51):
I'm doing good? I think that we should I mean,
we have a lot of needs out there a lot,
but I think we should just strengthen the offense because
I believe that's where we have most of our our well,
I don't want to say better players, but that's where
our strength is. In my opinion, it's very good. No

(27:13):
defense is very good, but I just think we should
strengthen the offense. Is offensive league, so you know, you
got to stop somebody. I understand that. So we need
defense as well. As far as the coaching, the new
coach because I didn't get a chance to call in
the last couple of weeks. I couldn't get in, but
I got in the day. But anyway, Marty, Yeah, let's

(27:37):
Marty's son. Let's give him a chance. But I feel
like it's more of the same. We've seen this story before.
But let's give them a chance and let's let's get
out there and do something like we did back in
the in the nineties.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
Man.

Speaker 11 (27:53):
I mean, I know it was it was not a
salary cap back then. I understand that. But like like
your Mavericks did down there, I'm a Laker fan, but
like your Mavericks did down there, they trade made a
big trade. Let's let's do it. Let's do something big.
I mean, I don't know what. I don't have a
little plan for it. But let's let's figure it out.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Let's don't compare anything with what the Cowboys have done
with the Mavericks and and and let's trade. I don't mean,
I know, I know.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
I don't mean it like that.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
I'm just saying the concept, let's do something big.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, well, no thanks when it when it comes to
just saying, oh, you know, let's just make a trade
here in the in the middle of the now, anybody, Now,
there's nobody like that, Like you know, I've been asked
that question. It's just like the Cowboys trade and Micah
and and No, it's not like that. It's it'd be

(28:46):
like trading you know, Micah and CD, you know at
the same time or whatever. I mean, this is this
was huge just because the way basketball is. And so
I'm still not over it yet. I don't know, I
don't know, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm
not sure yet, you know, because I hear a lot
of fans that say, like, I'm done, I'm done. Well
I'm not. You know how I always say, you don't

(29:09):
choose to be a Cowboys fan, it chooses you. Well,
I chose to be a Mavericks fan, so it's a
little different. I chose to be a Mavericks fan because
I live here, and I chose to be a fan,
so I can do what I want to do, you
know in that in that regard, I'm for the Lakers.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do yet,
just just yet.

Speaker 11 (29:29):
We'll see, Yeah, Nick, you know, I will finish with
what I always say. Until we get a good, very
good offensive and defensive line at the same time, we'll
be more to same Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
All right, Well that's who we need to draft than
one of those guys. Uh you know, now, thanks for
the call, Lester. If there was a uh Hunter, Travis
Hunter type player that was an offense I mean it's
it's gonna at some point an offensive line slash defensive
linemen that played both ways like that. I mean happens

(30:06):
in high school all the time, and maybe in college.
You'll see it. If that ever happened in the pros,
that would be Lester's guy right there, because what better
way could he get offensive defensive line in the same
time with the same player. It it'll happen. It'll happen
at some point. I think. I think guys like Travis
Hunter might pave the weight, but there's a lot of
guys that do it, that can play both sides. That

(30:28):
doesn't mean that they play it at that level. That's
why Travis Hunter's got a Heisman Trophy, because he did
it at the highest of levels. All right, let's take
a break here on Cowboys storyline. Beat right back after this.

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Speaker 1 (32:14):
The Cowboys storyline.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
All right, welcome back to Cowboys storyline. Eight eight eight eight,
five five two two nine sevens are number to call.
Phones have been ringing pretty consistently here. We've still got another.
We could go in another hour if we If it's up
to you guys on that one. If you guys have
the calls, keep keep rolling in, We'll keep doing it.
I'm laughing because I just I just grabbed my phone,

(32:41):
got a text message from a friend of mine that
said he's got Mavericks tickets uh for next week. Of course,
of course we yeah, it feels like there's gonna be
a lot available there. Yeah, this fan base is is
is hurting. And as I said before, just now like
it's not the same basketball. Football is not the same
because you really, you know, one player can can take you,

(33:04):
uh to to the finals and you need more. But
I mean you could have one or one guy, So
trading that guy away for you know, an older piece
just it's it's frustrating, and I get it, but it
made me kind of wonder about from the Cowboys standpoint.
You know a lot of people say, you know that

(33:24):
I would trade Micah? You sure about that? And I
and I'm again I'm not saying this is the same
because football you need a lot more guys. But still
you're talking about a young, generational type player that can
can wreck games, and I'm just not sure I'd want
to get rid of that just just to get two

(33:45):
first round picks. You know, good luck, because Mike is
going to help that team that that you're sending him to.
So nothing against these guys, but I mean, would you
take would you take Micah for for Mazzie Smith and
Tyler Goyton? And I'll even do you one better, just
Tyler Smith and Mozzie Smith, because that's still that's two

(34:08):
first rounders in what twenty twenty two and twenty three,
taking it in the twenties range. Tyler Smith, Mozzie Smith,
Tyler's a two time pro bowler. I still don't think
I would do that for Micah. Uh So my point
is is that, yeah, you can get two first round picks,

(34:28):
but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to get
the same kind of return there for sure, all right,
I'm really excited about this. Next call Lewis and Langston, Oklahoma.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
What hey, I'm alive, man, I'm alive out here.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
I tell you. I you know, I wasn't going there,
but I I, you know, worry about people. I mean,
that's about I got about four on the list that
I would like for them to call, just just so
I could feel better about it. Because they've called and called,
they've called, they stopped. So you're one of them. And
I'm really really excited that you that you've called. No

(35:06):
situations change, probably work and all that good stuff.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
Yeh yeh yeah, how you How you been?

Speaker 11 (35:13):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (35:14):
Did you get work?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
It's just work man, life for life and work. And
then stressed about the cowboys and I'm I'm a little
I'm ama say this, and I know I'm probably gonna
make a couple of fans mad, but I'm an Oklahoma
City fan thunderfans, So this Dallas Maverick think, don't bother
me nothing.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
I'm okay with that out sure at all?

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Sure you are, yeah, sure, sure you're fine with that.

Speaker 13 (35:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Yeah, Well but I had to check on a couple
of my friends because they was I had to give
a couple of hugs there was they was really hurt.

Speaker 15 (35:45):
It was really really hurt. So I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
I don't think if you was deciding to get rid
of like Michael or something like that, you would have
to do It's Michael won't change as much as Luca.

Speaker 15 (35:58):
Did for the Mavericks.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
So I agree with that. But I haven't really got
the call and talked about a whole bunch. But I'm
gonna try to stick to the off season stuff.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
I appreciate the coaches.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
And I'm not mad about you know, yeah, Louis, you
can't pick up where you left off because we'll be
talking about Thanksgiving. You know, we'll be talking about the
Giants game. You can't. It's a minute, so right, So
what do you think? What did you think of Schottenheim
or higher?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
You know what, I'm not. I wasn't I'm not shocked,
I'm not angry, I'm not mad. I'm I'm just gonna
play it out, see how how I feel it out.
You know, I like a lot of the people he's
putting around, the pieces he's putting together, as far as
the coaching staff. So and I watched the whole uh
interview with him and Jerry and them, and I felt

(36:47):
like he he sounded like a man on a mission
in a sense, like, Hey, I've started from the bottom
and I worked my way up here, so hopefully that's
a good thing. We'll see how that works out. So
I'm not really too upset about it. Like I said,
I'm just trying to play it one game at a time,
see how it goes. We'll start with preseason, but technically
before that, we'll start with the draft and.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
See how that goes.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yep, Yeah, I think well, I think this is a
very very healthy mix of continuity and newness. At the
same time, it seems new and fresh. He's got a
lot of different things going on, but yet we still
see some continuity and including him. So I think I
think it's a it's a healthy mix of both of

(37:30):
that and and I think that's what a lot of
people need, because they need kind of a breath of
fresh air. But not we're not starting from scratch completely,
and I don't think they should start from scratch because
this hasn't been a bad football team. This has been
a a good to great team. Last year was was
average below.

Speaker 15 (37:49):
It, right, I can agree with that.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
I can agree with that, So yes, I can agree
with that. Well, I was calling because yesterday I was listening.
I'm stealing from yesterday's podcast, but they was talking. A
caller called into I Think Talking Cowboys and he's he
was talking about how he didn't agree with keeping the

(38:14):
GM not DM Will McClay, and he didn't think that
he was making the right moves, and everybody on the
Talking Cowboys kind of somewhat kind of changed his mind,
was like, Hey, you thinking about like the Mazie Smiths
and the Taco Charleston's, but you're not taking an account
the the Tyrn Smiths and the Zach Martins and stuff

(38:38):
like that. But I was on the internet on the
ex Twitter or whatever, and I've seen that comment a
few times before, and I kind of was like, should
we really be looking at Will McClay or should we
be checking on the coaching staff because I think there's
a I think, like you said, there's a good mix
between the two. Well, they were saying there's a good
mix between the two because they evaluate the talent and

(39:02):
then they come back and you bring them to the
coaches and if you don't win with them, everybody's trying
to point the finger and say, well, we shouldn't have
drafted that guy. But then when you look throughout the league,
there's players from Cowboys that have been drafted all over
the place, making big plays and doing things. So I'm
almost to the fence who are like, have we been

(39:24):
like not that the coaching is bad, but has it
just been failing us? Like you know what I mean
in a sense, like because people getting drafted and then
they leave Dallas and then they make plays other places,
and so why weren't they making plays.

Speaker 15 (39:37):
With dabas So?

Speaker 4 (39:38):
And like I said, I'm not saying I'm not trying
to poo poo on the coaches.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
But exactly and I'm not questioning you here, I'm just
who exactly are we referring to in that regard about
the guys that go to other places and make plays.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
I can't I'm not gonna say it. I'm not going
to say it because they didn't make it to the
super Bowl. But you kind of can think about Washington
like they got half of our team from last year, yeah,
you know, and then think about the young man that
played d line from UH from period went to the ram.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Neville Gallimore you Neville Gallimore did did play better. Uh, yeah,
he was a difference maker for the Rams. Uh, you're
You're not wrong. And I mean another guy and I
and I I can just not fathom this one. I
trading for Jordan Phillips. I was so excited about him,
and I don't know what happened in that situation. Next

(40:34):
thing I know, he's he's back in Buffalo and making
plays third and goal at the goal line. He's in
the package and he's making plays and he's showing up
and he's getting the fans involved in him. He looks
like a key player for that Buffalo team. And I'm thinking,
this team, what is that? Yeah, I don't understand what happened.

(40:54):
And they tried to put him on I R. They
said he had a risk problem. He said he didn't
have a risk problem. That was the end of it there.
And then you know so but but you know they
gave up a draft pick for that. So the Washington
I'll say this though about you asked about is it coaching, Well, yes,

(41:15):
it's coaching, especially with Washington because their coach and some
and then their assistant coach and some of their other
assistants went to Washington and coached them, so that that
is is kind of you put an asterisk by that
one because they they did well, and and then if
they did if they did well in Washington, it's because
they had the same same coaches. Didn't want to pay
that and they still wouldn't have paid that for Drance,

(41:37):
They wouldn't have paid that for Beaddish and Fowler. Fowler
did well. Fowler did a little bit better in Washington
than he did here, So you.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Know, and to me, I think that's the wash because
the way we had Loston, the Fowler and Loston almost
to me, were making it because you lose Fowler and
then you pick up Lawson, and I think what they
both had five or six facts and made a.

Speaker 15 (42:03):
Few plays here and there.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
So I'm not really.

Speaker 15 (42:05):
Mad at that.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
But yeah, and I'm like I said, I don't think
it's I don't agree with it, but I don't disagree
with it because I feel like you do evaluate the
talent and you bring people in and then some of
it you kind of look at, like, Okay, I bought
this guy in because I know he's talented, But do you,
Hank All, do you blame all of it on just

(42:26):
the coaching or is it we over evaluated this person.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I think it's a it's a combination of everything, really,
you know. I mean, I don't think it's just one thing.
I think Will uh, you know you're going back to
Will maclay. I think the body of work has been
really good.

Speaker 18 (42:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
And it's more it's, you know, with everything, it's more
than just what you see. It's it's also communication and
and and how you treat others, how you handle other departments.
I don't know. I'm not talking about opening the door
for people. I'm talking about how you work with other department's,
other staff. How do you work with this coaching staff

(43:03):
when things when they see things differently? How are you
organizing your scouting department to go to different places and
get the rest, you know, best guys and turn over
they're all the rocks and all that stuff. And I
think he's done a great job of that. There's been
a little bit of a lull here in the last
couple of years, I think from the great draft picks.

(43:23):
I think I think they've they've bet, I would say
a little bit on a downslope. But let's see if
they can, you know, get this thing turned around. Because
what happens. What's the best way to draft good players.
It's to get higher in the draft. That's I mean,
that's always the key. And guess what they've done that.
So that's that's the nature of it. You know, if
you keep picking in the twenties every year, you're not

(43:45):
gonna hit I mean, I'm looking at no, you're not
gonna hit everyone. But I mean when you look at
the guys that they've drafted in the twenties or thirties
that have made it to the Pro Bowl and been
good players, I mean, Travis Frederick was thirty one, the
thirty first pick, I believe, And if Byron Jones was
like twenty eight, Taco twenty four, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

(44:11):
forgot Dez down here too, right, Dez Frederick, Byron Jones,
Taco was twenty seven, twenty eight something like that. That
didn't work obviously, Layton Layton was eighteen, CD was seventeen,
Tyler Smith twenty four, maybe, Mazzi twenty six, Guidon twenty eight.
So some some yes, some some not so much. But

(44:32):
you you started getting in the teams and even higher
than that with the Tyron Smiths of the world, and
and Zach Martin, Micah. You know, they they hit so
here at twelve. I think I think, especially knowing that
they need so much, I think they're gonna get a
great football player and so and and and the key
is not to just get one at twelve, it's to

(44:53):
get one there at forty four in the second round.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Yeah no, yeah, I think to me, I think that,
and I'll get I'll get off of your get off here.
But I think the key, not the first line, is
not going to be a great player. I do believe
he'll be a great player, but the key is really
going to be sickond and third round. So I hope
we can nail those two.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Yeah, so that man, when I can get in, I'll
call the game.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
All right, Man, good to hear from you. Glad, you're glad,
you're doing okay. So, uh just want just so you
guys know, if we keep track on that kind of stuff.
We know calls. I have all the the lists of
all the calls, and so when one just stops abrupt abruptly,
you know, just gotta check in call every once in
a while. There's about three others I'd like to hear
from for for sure, I'd like to hear from all

(45:34):
you guys, but there's two or three others I would
I would wouldn't, wouldn't hurt my feelings if they gave
us a call. All right, let's go to Zach in Atlanta.

Speaker 20 (45:43):
Nick eat Man, man of the people. How are you doing?

Speaker 3 (45:46):
What's up? Man? How are you?

Speaker 20 (45:48):
I'm good man, I'm good. Uh, it's been a good week.
But I'm glad to be on the line with you.
Shout out to beam. Hey, a couple of quick comments
and I'll get off the line.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
One.

Speaker 20 (46:01):
How big of a priority do you think receiver in
free agency or the draft is going to be for us?
We dealt that fourth round pick from Mingo. Do you
think you know they're just counting on that to pan
out and focus on other priorities. We've got Brandon Cooks,
who's a free agent. Yeah, I kind of what do
you anticipate?

Speaker 3 (46:22):
A great question. That's a great question, and that's that's
the one where you know it could go. It depends
on on your your your thought process there. I mean,
I could see where that could be a first round pick.
I don't know if I would go that route, but
you know, I think back in the nineties. I mean,
they had Michael Irvin and they drafted Alvin Harper with

(46:44):
the eleventh pick. You know, I don't think they they knew
what they had yet with Michael, with Michael Irvin at
that point, but I lit a fire under him and
he went five for eight years of one thousand yards,
so you know, and and there it was a great
combination of a great one to two punch. I don't
I don't think for me, I would go first round
wide receiver, not after draft signing CD. But I think

(47:05):
it's a priority because BRANDI, like you said, Brandon Cook's
a free agent, and Jalen Tolbert, well, he's just tough
to evaluate, didn't he. I mean, I mean as soon
as you kind of think, well it's kind of you know,
maybe just a guy, and then he goes and you
look up and he had seven or eight touchdowns. So
I don't know what to think about Jalen toll This

(47:26):
to be a contract year for him and let's see
what what he does. Yeah, it was a drop that
I think it was a drop. Chris through out there
is a little longer one.

Speaker 20 (47:40):
I thought we had someone in Kansas on the line.

Speaker 11 (47:42):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 20 (47:43):
Uh yeah. One thing I will say is, you know,
we had a Mari and Michael Gallop and then Ceedee
Lamb's sitting there at seventeen. You don't pass on Ceedee lamp.
So we'll see what happens. I wish we would have
taken I wish we would.

Speaker 15 (47:57):
Have kept our fourth for a lot of reasons.

Speaker 20 (47:59):
But there's a guy who raised his hand in Los Angeles.
I won't get into detail, but you know, maybe we
figure out a way to make that happen too late.

Speaker 9 (48:07):
Now.

Speaker 20 (48:08):
Yeah, So all that to say, my final question, uh maybe,
and maybe you've covered this, but if you were playing football,
what do you think would be the most fun position
to play? Not necessarily what you're built for or what
played in the past, but you know what would you
like to get out there and go ball and so old,

(48:28):
same time, same place, next week, I get off the line,
go Cowboys?

Speaker 3 (48:33):
All right? Uh yeah, holder no doubt about it. I
think I'd be really good at it, you know. I think, uh,
you know, I'd be tough, aggressive, you know, well, you
get that ball, get it, spin it, get your finger
out of the way. I think I think it'd be
really good. Uh, until the ball's really slippery and shiny,
like in a playoff game, that it might you know,

(48:54):
slip through my hands and then you know, cost the
cost of a game and you know, kind of haunt
you for the rest of your career. I mean that
that could happen. No, I'm kidding. I don't think it
haunted him the rest of his career. I I don't.
That's a tough question for me because I never really
had that football, you know build. I think I played
one year maybe in uh like middle school, and I

(49:15):
was a wide receiver. Caught a pass. That's about it.
We didn't throw so you know, it's Oklahoma wherever the
wish bum was going on there at ou, so we didn't.
Nobody threw the ball. But either way, Uh no, I
you know, I don't. I've never really thought about that
because I never played a lot of football, but uh,

(49:38):
you know, it's fun to I'd go out in the
yard and throw it around. I thought myself as a receiver,
but certainly not a quarterback lord terrible arm anyways, holder though,
I think a holder definitely not kicking. But you know,
I can get the ball down and and we can Uh,
we can kick some field goals. How about that? All right?
Let's go to Oh, Chris, what was that drop? Play

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that drop now for me?

Speaker 16 (50:03):
Good?

Speaker 19 (50:05):
Good and terrible?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Wow, Okay, we're just talking about Jalen Tolbert. He threw
that out there. I don't know. I don't know about that.
But sometimes you're like, boy's good. Yeah, next thing, you know,
you're a couple like boy, he's good and terrible? All right.
I don't know aboud go there. I don't know. It
was funny, it was funny. It was funny. I just

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like I didn't hear the second part of it though,
and he kind of just threw it out there. The
guy's talking and take them somebody jumped on the phone
line and again, Uh yeah, I can't remember. I know
I've seen that movie. I mean to America. I don't
remember that the second line though, of good and terrible

(50:51):
all right, probably talking about sexual chocolate. There is here
you go. I've seen I've seen the movie again, not today,
but I I've seen him. All right. Let's go to
Ronnie in New Jersey.

Speaker 8 (51:04):
Good morning, Nick, How are you pretty good?

Speaker 12 (51:07):
Pretty good?

Speaker 8 (51:08):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
Hook.

Speaker 8 (51:09):
Everybody's doing good over there?

Speaker 12 (51:13):
Nick?

Speaker 8 (51:13):
I was going to ask you, there's a guy out
there that if we're gonna have to pay I just
want to put the scenario, if you got to pay
a guy top dollar to be a game wrecker.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
All right, are you talking about somebody that's miles away
from here?

Speaker 8 (51:30):
Exactly exactly, and right now everybody knows this guy has
always been a Cowboys fan. This guy when he was
coming out, he actually requested, asked, was asking, begging, Hey,
Trey Vomo to Cleveland for me in coming draft me.
I don't know if you remember that, but when he

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was coming out, he wanted to go to the Cowboys
so bad. And we do have a young if you're
not going to give up a draft, and I know
it's going to require high draft picks to get this
guy as desperate as he wants to get out of there,
you do have a guy that's coming up for a
contract that's due big money, and we're gonna pay big

(52:14):
money to one or the other. I'd rather pay big
money to the one that's more dominant, the one that's
more that that's actually a game wrecord. And I'm not
saying nothing against Michael Parsons. I love Michael Parsons, but
he's not that. He's not a guy that completely takes
over a game. And I've seen both, and I've seen

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almost all the pass rushes. Michaels. Garrett's got to be
the guy that actually does take over a game and
destroys left tackles, double blocks. Micah always complains about, you know,
while I'm being double block this and that, Mile Garrett
runs over to guys at the same time I seen them.

(52:58):
So it's this something that you would do that. That's
basically my question. And what do you think about that?
Thanks for taking my question?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
All right, Thanks for the call, Ronnie. You know, we
don't necessarily talk about players on other contracts, and even
though they've somebody has requested a trade, that doesn't mean
that he's being shopped or anything like that. And I

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hear what you're saying. Does this guy wreck games? I mean,
I don't know. I'm looking at the Cleveland's record. I mean,
this seems like there'd be more games that he could wreck.
It would be, you know, than being three and fourteen

(53:48):
and seven and ten eighty nine. He has a couple
eleven to five, eleven and six is in there, six
and ten, seven, and eight. I don't think he was
a part of the O and sixteen. That's probably how
they got him. I would think that's when they drafted them.
But you know, I just I think that that probably
wouldn't be the best situation is as far as what

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the Cowboys would give up compared to other teams, But
sure would be sure would be interesting, you know, and
and wow, what a what a combination that would be
on two guys on on you know, just trying to
meet at the quarterback? Would you give up twelve? I mean,

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gotta get better? But I mean, I I just I
still think this is a situation. I don't I don't
think it's a rebuild, but I think it's one of
those where still going to take a little bit of time.
I don't think you would put the Cowboys in the
one player of way category. And uh, I could see
other other teams probably that would be closer to that,

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that would that would you know, be willing to give
up their first round pick or a couple first round picks,
knowing that they're a little bit later, uh in the
first round, then maybe what the Cowboys have right now.
But interesting, again, that's about as much as we can
really go from there. Let's go to Anthony and Miami.

Speaker 9 (55:10):
Nick the quick, what's up, my guy?

Speaker 3 (55:12):
How are you.

Speaker 16 (55:14):
They?

Speaker 9 (55:14):
You know, a little tad under the weather, A little tad,
got a little foggy voice. But you know that ain't
gonna stop me.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, I'm good. You know, we don't talk about weather
too much, and I guess maybe we shouldn't talk about
under the weather either, But I get it now. It
knocks people on their ass. And it's been it's been
going around. It's been tough. I'm glad that most people
are doing okay. Uh yeah, So I'm out of what's
on your mind.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
Last week when I talked about the coach and welcoming
him and seeing I was take him with open arms.
His staff, he's getting a pretty good staff, and I
have the confidence that they're gonna keep building that staff.
And see, here's the catch with you leading a lot
of players and you haveing a lot of free agents,
you know, and rebuilding a team. You know, you got

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to go to that draft and you're gonna have to
hit free agency. But I remember you saying you don't
have to get that A plus players. We don't need them.
I mean, you know, you're gonna need role players, and
you're gonna need guys to basically fill those holes that
you're gonna be missing. So you gotta think when guys
have those league gams across the league, players might want

(56:25):
to play for them, Players might want to follow them.
Good players, role players, solid players. So that's a good
thing in him creating that kind of coaching culture that
I think he's gonna be able to create. So I'm
all now for that.

Speaker 11 (56:39):
Now.

Speaker 9 (56:39):
As I said, with the draft, I see four key positions.
They're more of course running back, de capital, guard, and
flot receiver. Now I want to run it back more
than anything in the world. So I'm not doing any
trades because I want him. But in the case that
he's not there, I'm trading back. I'm not going past twenty,

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but I'm gonna get you some more capital and still
getting there a great pick.

Speaker 12 (57:06):
That's just me.

Speaker 9 (57:07):
But I do want to running back, trust me, I
want him.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (57:10):
So that's all I got for you this week, big buddy.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Yeah, all right, appreciate that. All right, Yeah, I know,
I know there's been some talk on you know, how
much wear and tear has been on Ashton Gent's body
because he's gotten a lot of carries. But yeah, that
would I can't say. I've seen a lot of games.
You know, you see the highlights, and obviously with a

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runner up in the Heisman, you know all those yards.
But I watched them play against Penn State and they
have a you know, really good defense, and I remember thinking,
well there was it was a nine yard run and
I was like, all right, I see what the hype
is all about. I mean, I'm not talking about the
seventy yarders because he's got plenty of those. It's how
you average ten yards of pop. But I saw a

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nine yard run that probably had six Penn State defenders
involved in the play trying to get them down, and
it was a it was a man's run and it
was one of those where that's how you have to
win when you're playing the Washington or the Eagles or
the Giants or in December, you gotta have runs like that.
You know, when it's first and goal from the from

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the nine and you get about a six or seven
yard run and make it second goal at the three,
that changes the whole dynamic, probably makes it a four
down territory. It's runs like that when they know you're running.
You know, when you've got the lead in the fourth
quarter and it's four minutes to go and you've got
a four point lead, and you know you're trying to
get them to call their timeouts, and you go, you know, run, run, run,

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you get six, four, seven eight. Yeah, that's how you
win games. And so you know, and again it was
just one run, but it was a powerful run. The
shiftiness and all that that it reminded me there was
some inmte in that you know that I saw there.
He's got a lot more speed than that. I think
he's a special back, and I think that when that

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happens and there's really only one running back makes me
makes me wonder if he can get to twelve. I've
seen I've seen some mock drafts like you guys have
where he's past that. But I'm also starting to see
him in the seven eight range. Uh so I could
I could see, you know, when you think about a
few years ago, b John Robinson I think went eight,

(59:25):
maybe seven. Gibbs went twelve that same draft. So you
get a special back. I don't know, twelve seems pretty
late in the game to get a guy like that.
So we'll see. So yeah, we'll see what happens. All right,
let's go to Armando in Mexico City. How are you

(59:45):
doing fine?

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Thanks stiliating trying to get in it getting more complicated
every time.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Well, I appreciate it, appreciate you sticking sticking with it.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
I'm gonna add myself to the comp to get another
show because only once a week is really hard.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Yeah. Yeah, trust me. I think I've put in the
call a little bit on that kind of drop that
over to to the bosses. And I think it's gonna
be one show, one show a week. I don't think
anything's gonna be. It's gonna change.

Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
We get there that you have now international pressure on that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yeah. That being said, I think it's gonna be one
show a week.

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Yeah, yeah, I understand. So anyway, I couldn't get in
last week to talk about the the head coach and.

Speaker 15 (01:00:40):
I like it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
I like it, but I I have to think about
what you said the other day, say, if it's going
to be from within, you have to change everything else
and shorten time minutes from within, But they change everything
else on the coaches.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
So I like it.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
Let's see how it looks.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
So uh, I really want my My personal choice was
Pete Carol, but you said that he had some outradious
demands and as we were going to read about it,
I haven't found anything about it. So maybe you can
talk a little bit about that. That would be interesting

(01:01:19):
to see what he wanted. So but anyway, if you can,
of course, and and uh I went gently for the
on the draft. I hope that's to us at all.
I think he's going to be a game changer, so
I hope he does. We need a home run on
this draft in the first round, you know, safer if

(01:01:42):
you can say that. Yeah, one last point, Nick, I've
seen a lot of position coaches changing positions, you know
from the distance in life, maybe linebackers and then back
back and forth. How is it that change? You think
it's easier or it's hard, because so that's not being
talked about a lot. So I want your opinion on that.

(01:02:04):
But anyway, that say, thanks, thank you very.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Much for having you get off the line, thank you
for the call. You know, it's it's not it's not
like playing the position, and it's it could be done.
I've seen you know, it happens a lot, and you know,
think about this. Yeah, it keep from a simplistic part.

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Think about these coaches and where they where they come from.
Most of them, most of them are you know, they're
all players. But you know some of these coaches start
at the high school level college and you think about
high school coaches what they have to coach, you know,
and so coach a little bit of everything, especially when

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you when you talk about special teams coaches even in
the NFL, you know, you're talking about tackling, you're talking
about returning, catching a punt, shedding a block, making a block.
You know, you do a little bit of everything. So uh,
when it when it comes to skill set and understanding
how to do certain concepts, I don't think that's that

(01:03:10):
much of a transition. If if you've got if you've
done it and you've kind of understand I mean, I
think you can have a you know, linebackers coaches can
go to D line coaches and vice versa and things
like that. So you know, these guys are trying to
get in the door. You're trying to get in the door.
You do whatever you whatever it takes. You know, you're
trying to move up the ladder, and you'll you'll learn

(01:03:32):
what you have to do to get there. So I
don't think that's a huge transition, Uh, as long as
they're dedicated to putting in the work in the hours
and study the film and things like that. When I'm
talking about position coaches that kind of change different positions
within its certainly not like a player doing that. All right,
let me go to break here real quick on the
Cowboys storyline. I got a couple of people on the

(01:03:52):
on the line. We'll be right back after.

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Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
There is no eye in Dallas. There is no eye
in heart, either no eye in blue star or a
lone star for that matter. And there's no eye in
How about them Cowboys? Smirnov knows there's no eye in football.
Football is a wee thing and experience that is best
enjoyed together with good drinks and good folks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Home or away.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
We rally together, we cry together, and we always rally
cry together because there's definitely no eye in Cowboys. Fans
smear enough we do game days. Please drink responsibly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Co storyline, All right, welcome back to Cowboys Storyline. It's
the only Is this the only show today, Chris? We
just got one show on Cowboys Podcast today because now
we got medium Master this afternoon, media mashed this afternoon,
jj T and Edward got it all right? Uh, Cowboys storyline,

(01:05:25):
it's the only show going today. I'd go longer if
I want to, because the Cowboys break not happening today.
So you know what, I don't get pushed for some reason,
Derek did not want to do a show by himself.
You know what, it's not built for everyone. You know
what I mean. I don't do it show by myself.

(01:05:47):
I do a show with you. We got all kinds
of people that call them in. We got we got
we got doctors. I don't I think lawyers. I know
we have a sheriff. I know, we have a shop griff.
Let's go to Kansas for our sheriff. Sheriff line.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
He nick, how are you guys doing?

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Doing great? How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:06:09):
I'm doing pretty good. Just hanging out of bous hiding
from everybody. I don't get sick like everybody else. So far,
that's been a good plan.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
There you go, There you go. That's a good excuse too,
you know what I mean? Like, sorry, no, y'all, can't
come over, can't sorry, can't.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
Storylines on today, and it's on for hopefully all day.
That'll keep me inside.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Well, we'll see. You know, if I could maybe the
Uber eats or something like that, I could just sit
here all day. I'm sure Chris would love that. No, yeah,
so what do you got? What's going on?

Speaker 12 (01:06:43):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I got? I was thinking about all this free agent
stuff and with the draft coming up, I don't I
think best plan take our pick at twelve, whoever it is,
whoever you think is the best player available to fill
the biggest need you have? Which Cowboys have a bunch.

(01:07:06):
But if you do decide to go out into free
agency instead of getting that one one player, why not
drop down just a little bit, split your money up
and get maybe a couple of needs with some with
the money. And if they would do that, who would

(01:07:28):
you like? Who do you think you would like to
see them pick in a free agent that would help
in that regard? And uh, and and then your thoughts
on on your first pick in the draft, depending on
whether it's the tackle available or gent or or whoever.

(01:07:49):
On that, I got some thoughts maybe, uh, if Jenny's there,
maybe I've seen you know, I didn't like some of
the game. Couple of the games because when he got
up against really good defense, he's yards per average wasn't great,
and he's run the ball a ton already in his career.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Well, let me just just to be fair, you know,
let's look at how many like like. For instance, Oregon
and Penn State. Those are two teams that he faced
that maybe his stats weren't the best. I know both
of those those teams have a lot of guys in
the draft on the defensive line. Specifically, does Boise State

(01:08:37):
have about three offensive linemen going in the first round
first couple of days. I doubt it. My point is
is that as a back, you don't have that offensive line,
it's not the same and you're going up against some
some top guys. I thought that's why I said that
run that I liked against Penn State. He wasn't getting
a ton of blocking. He was doing a lot on
his own. So got to be fair a little bit.

(01:08:59):
It's not just him going up against Penn State and Oregon,
it's his offensive line as well. So you know you
have to you have to, you know, throw all that
out there, and then on the other to be fair.
On the flip side, you know, he's going up against
Nevada and Wyoming sometimes and he's and he's racking up
a ton of yards and they're not going to be
putting guys in the in the league on every single

(01:09:19):
you know round either, so you have to kind of
way through all that stuff. He there, sheriff, Yeah, I'm there,
all right.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
All right, Yeah, yes, No, I'm just curious on what
your thoughts wouldn't be if they decided to go out
and free agency, maybe pick somebody up. I know people
are talking about Cooper and that that just kind of
your thoughts on maybe some that would be available with
free agent wise, because trading somebody you don't have a

(01:09:52):
lot of You don't have a lot of players that
you can get rid of, because then you you just
create another hole. Yeah, now I'm don't we don't need
any more holes.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I agree with that. All right, Lonnie, appreciate that.
Thanks for the call. Good stuff. I haven't looked at
all of the guys in free agency that are on
other teams right now. You know what I would say,
I'd like to like, I would look at the Cardinals

(01:10:23):
and see again, I don't even know who's out there,
but I'm looking at familiarity. I'm looking at guys. I mean,
look at what Washington did and so I guarantee you
Dorn's Armstrong and and Fowler Igbanogay. They had some success
because they didn't really have to change systems. They knew
their coach, they knew that kind of stuff. So look

(01:10:45):
at look at those type of things. Look at guys
that are coming from other places that they've coached before,
that they you know, they have a good relationship with.
You know, maybe maybe there is somebody on the Cardinals,
maybe on their offensive line. I haven't I don't even know.
I could be I'm just throwing that out there. But
somebody that can come here and be like, I know
what you know. I know this scheme, I know what

(01:11:06):
I'm doing, and I know that kind of stuff. So
I would look at familiarity as one when it comes
to the free agency, and then you know, I'm okay
with a splash. I'd be okay with it. If you
could tell me, oh, we could go get eight good players,
solid to good players here, or we could get five

(01:11:28):
and one of them is pretty damn good. I'm going
that route. I'm going that route with this team right now,
with this team, this fan base, what this team needs
and need a shot in the arm. They need that.
So I would be okay with that knowing that, hey,
we've got a really good player or two in here,
as opposed to just saying let's get seven or eight,

(01:11:51):
nine guys that'll be solid. Yeah, you know if they're solid.
I mean that's why they're in fre agency, because they're solid.
Give me a guy that's a little bit better than that,
and I think that's what this team needs and be
nice change of pace. If that's what the Cowboys decided
to do. All right, let's go to our next caller,
Irene in Falls Church, Virginia.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
Hey, it's been a while. Oh my gosh, hundreds and
hundreds of calls trying.

Speaker 21 (01:12:15):
To get in.

Speaker 7 (01:12:16):
So here I go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 21 (01:12:19):
I'm trying.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
Okay.

Speaker 21 (01:12:20):
So who would have thought when I asked which team
we least wanted to win the Super Bowl that my
answer of Washington would have come so so close? That
was brightening for me. But I felt that Eli Manning magic,
you know, helmet catch vibes with that team. So that's
that's kind of what was in my head. Even though
I think they overachieved, but they're building something that unfortunately

(01:12:43):
is going to be torturing us for years.

Speaker 20 (01:12:45):
Looks like, but.

Speaker 21 (01:12:47):
I'm glad that's over go Chiefs. Yeah, that's it. You know,
I know everybody. I think everybody. I know. There's some
people who are like, oh no, they're going to win
three in a row and tie the Cowboys on Super Bowls.
But I'm like, we don't really need the goals. Come on, no,
something about it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Get there yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
You remember all those Chiefs fans that have called in
talking all that crap about the Cowboys, Like, no, it's
exact Philly fans all the time. So yeah, keep them
where they are. They've won what won Super Bowl. Keep
it at that. But yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't
think it's in anyone's DNA that can call this show
to be like, yeah, I'm okay with Philly winning. No,

(01:13:24):
can't say that doesn't even come out of your mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
All right, No, all right.

Speaker 21 (01:13:29):
So just to give you my my thoughts on Shotty.
So when the hiring happened, I was not excited. Of course,
you know, two days later, our division rivals, we're going
to be playing in the NFC Championship. So it really
felt like, wow, we're going behind, or we're not trying to,
you know, make the big move, and everyone else is
just passing us by. But I will say, now I'm

(01:13:52):
I'm interested. I still would have preferred Aaron Glenn, but
that's fine. I don't think we even called.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
Them, so it is what it is.

Speaker 21 (01:14:01):
I like how he's shaping up the staff.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
You know, I like slus.

Speaker 21 (01:14:05):
I think that I wanted him as the successor to
Marilyn Nelly. But since then there's been even better. You know,
the coordinators, the White Cotton DL coach. You know, he
had the Jets line looking great.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
Bottoms.

Speaker 21 (01:14:21):
He should get our running game more creative. So you know,
I'm good with that. And then what uh what Schottenheimer
said that it said to me was motion ted bo
you know that sort of stuff. I think I think
it's true that he was taking over the play calling
because something shifted in that and then that's what he
brought up in the presser. So I don't think that's

(01:14:43):
just like a pr thing that they're trying to sell
us on, right, And then my only question for you
is if there's news about the line coach. I think
Todd Archers said were probably going to hire a separate
one and it's not just going to be Clayton Adams
doing both duties. So that's it for me.

Speaker 17 (01:14:59):
I'll talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Uh, well, thanks for the call, Irene. A couple of
positions coaches still out there, A wide receivers coach and
O line, uh for sure. I think that's about it
for the main position coaches you're They hired a running
backs coach, Derek Foster. I have assistant receivers coach, obviously,

(01:15:26):
special teams coordinator, the line coach, linebackers coach safety's corners,
obviously your defensive coordinator. So I would think your O
line and your receivers coach, and I think both of
those are going to be outside the building for now,
which is just good. So again, pretty good mix of
of some guys that they've had here, uh some of

(01:15:49):
the lower level coaches that are still around. But but
I again, I think this is just a good, good,
you know, combination of of of both. You got some
new faces, you know, new voices, new opinions. Uh not
everybody is new and so and and and that'll be
good for those new coaches too. That that's always important.

(01:16:11):
I'll never forget Wade Phillips saying that when he got
here and he changed almost every coach but like two
or three, and he's like, you gotta have holdovers. You
gotta have some because if you don't, then you'll just
make the same mistakes that the that we're done before.
So you need that and and and this is this
seems god. And Shotenhaimmer was here, so he he knows
all this stuff as well. All right, Chris? Is that

(01:16:34):
it for calls? I mean, I know we had a
lot of calls. I haven't seen one Michael and Bowling Green,
I haven't seen that pop up here, all right, Michael
Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Speaker 22 (01:16:45):
Man we gotta do this twice a week.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Come on, now, well, I agree with you, but I'm
gonna tell you that we probably won't. But you know what,
if y'all keep calling right now, it can just you
can just take over the next time. Slide here. Whether
that's what I said.

Speaker 16 (01:17:03):
I said that by the time you guys keep calling,
it will be two days calling.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Then we'll do We'll do two shows here. No one's
gonna stop us right now. I don't think that keep going.

Speaker 22 (01:17:14):
I was thinking the same thing. Either do two hours
or do two days, so that works for me. I
did not want McCarthy to leave. But now it is
exciting with the you know, seeing all these new hires,
I've got some excitement for next year. I don't think
I'm gonna watch the Super Bowl because I'm gonna be

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banned either way. But uh uh, let me ask you
a question about the super Bowl. Okay, all right, say
say just works out with these new coaches, which I
think is gonna be all right. Say we're say we're
in a super.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
Bowl in a few years.

Speaker 22 (01:17:52):
All right, say we.

Speaker 15 (01:17:54):
Win the super Bowl.

Speaker 22 (01:17:55):
Now, I know the players get these nice rings, coaches
get them, but from watching pond stars. You know, when
people come in with a super Bowl ring, they're like, oh,
this is a staff ring. It's not as worth as much.
If the Cowboys win the super Bowl? Do you get
a super Bowl ring as a staff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
I would I don't know. I mean that is obviously
never never come up. I've only been here, you know,
twenty seven years. How about I know, No, I don't.
I've had that question asked several times and at different
points in my time of being here. You know, I
guess the answer could have changed. I would think now

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you know, maybe maybe I would, But I don't know
how they do it. I don't know if they maybe
it's something to purchase or I don't know. I I
would love I would love to figure that out, you know,
I would. I would love for that to be a
situation where we have to talk about it. But I
would think I would have a shot for it. But

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I don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:19:04):
Well, in a few years when we get there, I
want to I'm sure you'll let us know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, y'all would know all the time.
You know, I'd be like Broadest there with it with
his throwing it around like you like this mic look
at this microphone we have here, look at this, you know,
and then it show it. Yeah, I would do that.
I don't know, though I can't imagine ever wearing it,

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you know. Just but again that's that's.

Speaker 22 (01:19:35):
A special occasion, especially that I view that of.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
You know, hey, so if you won the lottery, what
do you what do you buy? I just we'll see,
I mean, if that ever happened. But you know, I
don't play the lottery. He who knows.

Speaker 22 (01:19:50):
All right, I'm looking for I'm looking for. I've got
high host for this new I mean, every time they
bring somebody in, I'm like, I look at him and
research sho him. I'm like, all right, this is good,
this is good. I think I think we're gonna have
a good deal going.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah, I mean I think we got.

Speaker 22 (01:20:07):
A coach that should have been.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
A coach, but just has that's fair. I mean yeah,
I mean, and that's that's a lot of coaches are
that way, you know, Like like Aaron Glenn, I bet
you and the Jets is kind of the same thing,
like it just hasn't gotten that opportunity. His his though
you could see coming a little bit more just but
with the success that his team had but you know,

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I agree. I mean, he sounds he says all the
right things. Schottenheimer does says all the right things, and
he did say all the right things. And it was
a kind of an awkward press conference a little bit
the way things were kind of set up there. And
you know, he's in between two guys that they're talking
about a lot of stuff history, you know, and and
the history of the of the of the the last

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thirty years and the Super Bowl drought that that they've had. Well,
none of that is his problem. Shottenheimer's probably really isn't
uh And and he's you know, but he's still embraced that.
I thought the right way, knowing what the fans are
wanting and knowing what the expectations are around here. All right,

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all right, Michael, good stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:21:16):
Hey, I appreciate it. I've been trying to get in
for the last couple of Wednesdays, but I just wasn't successful.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
All Right, Well, got it. You know what. You keep
trying to keep trying, and you did. You made it. It
was good to hear from you.

Speaker 22 (01:21:29):
Oh you know, I will. Hey, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
You have a good one, all right, Michael and Bowling
Green Kentucky. All right, we're at that part of the
show where you know what if you if you uh,
if you want to call in, you could call if
you've called in, if you haven't never called before, this's
be a good time. If you have called before, call back.
If you've called already in this show, call on back again.

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We have a repeat. We have a repeat caller, Chris
Lester in Minnesota, US, called back Lester.

Speaker 11 (01:22:03):
There, Yeah, I'm here, ain't I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
You you only have one catchphrase? I mean, so what
else can you say? Again, they haven't drafted an offense
or defensive lineman. They can't get better. At the same time,
what else is there? But I'm dying to know what
do you got?

Speaker 11 (01:22:24):
Well, I just wanted to follow up on what I
was saying earlier. I'm not saying we need to trade
Michael Parsons. I'm saying we need to be the one
trying to look for, you know, someone maybe disgruntled or
whatever on another team, quietly, like like what happened in
the basketball world, and we be on the on the

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end of getting the good player and the other one
gets the other player. That's what I meant, not us
giving up something I mean we taking something. Okay, example, Uh,
we didn't know that Miles Away was discrowned. Maybe we
could have known that two or three months ago and

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and then just quietly got him. I'm just I'm not
saying get here, but I'm just that's an example. Well,
that's what I meant.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
I'll say, I'll say this, and the reason there's two
reasons why the Mavericks fans are so disappointed. Number One,
this was this was the most exciting guy in the
league to every every time you turned it on. You
don't know what he's gonna do, and so it was
it's it's and then when he's a young player still,
so to not have him here is so disappointing. If

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you're going to get rid of him, though, you better
get a haul back. And they did not. And that's
another thing. That's that's it. That's unfortunate. I say all
that to say, I doubt Cleveland is not going to
get a haul for the guy if he does, if
they end up trading him. So that's even even at
his age, that that's going to be interesting to see

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what what happens there.

Speaker 5 (01:23:59):
Right.

Speaker 11 (01:24:00):
Well, I'm just saying, let us be on the receiving
and of a very of of the other fans feeling
like what what what happened? Oh the Cowboys, you know,
the soul or whatever, this particular player or that particular player,
and we just gave a third round pick or eighth
round pick or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Yeah, that's what I met. I got you, I got
your Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate it. Good stuff, all right, Lester,
it's been a while.

Speaker 11 (01:24:29):
Get that off the defensive line at the same time,
go Cowboys?

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
All right? Good. I like that. It's a good point
offense defense, same time. Love it all right, Lester. Repeat caller.
It's only happened once, I believe in. And it was
a guy from Connecticut, Pete Right, And how do you
can call three times in one show? So it's good
to have a repeat poler there, Yeah, three you call him?
Three p that's right, Chris, all right? Nico and Colorado Springs? Nico?

Speaker 9 (01:24:59):
What's up? Nick? How you doing? Brother?

Speaker 15 (01:25:02):
Oh man, I'm gonna I got a bone to pick
with you?

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
All right?

Speaker 12 (01:25:07):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:25:08):
Well, I haven't called since Week five, and that was
the Steelers game. And the big reason I haven't called
is because after I called and talked with you. I
mentioned that it's important to me as a Cowboy fan
and the rest of the Cowboys fans that we get
a super Bowl. And I remember your words were, well,

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if that's what you define as success, well didn't our
new coach didn't carry I mean, yes, ma'am, I mean
Schottenheimer say.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
The same thing that he said. If we're not shooting
for a super Bowl, then what are we what are
we doing here?

Speaker 15 (01:25:47):
Exactly exactly? And I told the story about my mom
and my uncles getting into a fight thirty years ago
super Bowl Uh huh. And now we have a coach
that is saying things like that again another yes man
nod to Jerry, congratulations on getting your Jim Carrey. But
US Cowboys fans are frustrated. For instance, I haven't watched

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one in thirty years. I don't plan watching this game either.
I could care less who wins. I don't care when
we get bumped out. I don't give other teams my ratings.
I just won't do it. It's the star or nothing.
So that brings me to my point about picking that
bone with you. When I fought an MMA, the only

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victory was to win. There was no victory in loss.
So for when you were explaining, like, well, that's I
guess if that's your definition of success, it should be
the only definition of success. So I'm not really sure
what other things are successful.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Okay, I mean, I'm not going to see it that way.
I'm sorry. I don't think. I don't think whoever you
know has the trophy Sunday Night is the only success
full team in the in the league. I don't. I
don't think that way. I think there's other team. I mean,
you're telling me Washington didn't have success this year because
they didn't make it to the super Bowl. I mean, like,
I think, I think there's other ways to define it.

(01:27:14):
But I I get I don't remember exactly all that
conversation and kind of what was said and all that,
and maybe how the wording was. But uh, I mean,
you get you're talking to somebody that's been here. I've
worked here now for twenty seven years. I have not
seen an NFC championship game or a Super Bowl. So
if I walked around here saying, well, the only thing

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mattered that I've been fired a long time ago, That's
not the way it works for me. That's not the
way my mind thinks. I think that things different. I
can get excited about different things. If I have to
cover a five and eleven football team three years in
a row, I figure out different things that that worked
for me because I'm not in my mind it wasn't
going anywhere. This is a great job. I love it.

(01:27:56):
So we didn't make it to the super Bowl again
and again. But I view it differently. I'm not asking
you to view it a different way. If you want
to turn it off after they're done, that's fine. I
don't view it that way, and I don't know if
a lot of fans do either. But it's the ultimate goal, yes,
but if you fall short of it, heye, see if
you can figure out a way to get their next

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year build on what you've done. But again, I'm just
arguing about a conversation that I really don't remember, so
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:28:24):
It's all right. It just sit with me because I
know what I would define a success and right now,
just like eighty eight has said, we are Blockbuster, we
are seers, we are old news. When are we going
to get that star to stop being tarnished and brass
it or clean it back up and shine correctly?

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
Like what we used to be.

Speaker 15 (01:28:46):
We're losing our Moniker America's team. We're losing it by
definition of championships, not by definition of making Jerry Jones billions.
I mean, carry do me a favor, bro, Get out
of your broken Bronco, put down your ping pong ball,
and actually do your damn job. Is what Cowboys fans won.
That's all I got, Nick, have a good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
Day, all right, appreciate it. Um frustration, I get it.

Speaker 9 (01:29:15):
Not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
I mean I think that I do think that that
there's the ultimate prize is certainly there. And that's what
think about it. When they say that there's a drought
for twenty nine years, it's that it's Super Bowl drought.
They have it. They haven't won the Super Bowl, you know,

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and there's teams that that have and and I'm not
gonna sit here and try to spend it. I mean,
the Cowboys are probably you know, in that top I
would say seven or eight teams in those last twenty
nine years when it comes to wins, success all that stuff.
They have not won the Super Bowl. And there's fans
like the caller, we just had that that's the only

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thing that that matters. And and I can understand that.
But for me, I've been forced to look at it differently.
I have to, you know, because you walk around here
pissed off that they don't make the Super Bowl, You're
not gonna be walking around here a whole lot longer.
So I view it differently.

Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Maybe that's why I'm a stats nerd. That's why I
enjoy I find different ways to kind of look at
it all with the mindset of hopefully, you know, this
is the year, and that's what's so great about football
season or sports in general. You can be mad all
you want to. This last caller, Nico, he's mad. He
doesn't want to watch the Super Bowl as I can
give him their ratings. Cool, well, I get it. But

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when that draft comes around, he's gonna be looking at
it like, all right, I'll see what they got, all right, cool?
And then the next guy, and then I mean, then
the next st Then you get the training camp, preseason,
and it's a cycle. It just comes back around again.
And that's that's where we are. All right, here we go,
let's go, Robbie and Coco Beach. We're calling back again,

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calling again, what's up.

Speaker 12 (01:31:02):
I'm not tooting my own horn, but I've called once
back once before because you had said something and I
think you'd taken out of contact, and I called back
and all right, because I can be defensive, remember something
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:31:14):
It was a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well what do you what?

Speaker 13 (01:31:21):
I am angry now, you know why? I just read
that son of a gun Adam Rank's list of expected
Pro Bowl or Hall of Fame inductees and he doesn't
even he's got Woody in the list, but he doesn't
even put him on a chance to make it. Why
why our cowboy gets I don't know, respect man, I

(01:31:43):
don't know. It's because it sells, you know, if you
love us or you hate us.

Speaker 3 (01:31:48):
I don't know. I don't listen. I'm I'm not sure
that none of that's come out yet. I've I've kind
of got and I have been told one way or another.
But I I getting the sense that it's not going
to be his year.

Speaker 13 (01:32:02):
So I hope that's not fair.

Speaker 3 (01:32:05):
No it's not. But uh, you know what, And I'm
and I'm biased, I know I am, and we all
are a little bit, but.

Speaker 13 (01:32:13):
We all are because we watched him.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
We watched him.

Speaker 13 (01:32:16):
Roy Williams next him. Oh my God, made Roy.

Speaker 12 (01:32:18):
Williams an amazing player. Yeah, not that he wasn't good,
but I.

Speaker 13 (01:32:21):
Mean him and Roy Williams together were the dynamic duo.

Speaker 12 (01:32:25):
You know. Well, you know, and then when what he left,
it was Roy went super downhill.

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
Well it's you know, it's America's team. It's the Dallas Cowboys,
one of the greatest franchises of all time. And the
guy that's made more tackles than anyone, not just on defense,
but defense the special teams can bind. No one's gotten
close to the amount of tackles that he had. And
he's not. He's not there, so he will be. He
will be And that's the.

Speaker 13 (01:32:51):
That's the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Yeah, I know that that'll be the case. You can't
get that close over and over he'll he'll make it.
They have a process that they're those voters are doing,
and they're trying to clean it up a little bit,
and and and and I think what they're doing is
trying to get these guys that have been waiting a
long time. And Darren's in there, He's in that group.
He's getting closer. I think I think it'll happen. I

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think it'll happen. Next year. If it doesn't happen this year,
I think it'll happen next year. I think Jason Witten
will be up for it. I don't believe Jason Witten
is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer
really not first well, because because nowadays, if you're not
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, I mean I think that they
they don't the voters have it. First ballot has got

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to be absolutely it's a sacred thing now, and.

Speaker 12 (01:33:39):
So I agree with that. But you know, the only
thing that makes me think that he gets in the
first ballot is that run against Philly when he lost
his home and kept running the blood coming out of
his nose.

Speaker 13 (01:33:49):
Yeah, and then they changed the rule the next year.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:33:53):
I mean, I mean, I think that made.

Speaker 12 (01:33:55):
A lot of people go, oh my god, that's got speech.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Yeah, there's no doubt, And that'll be on his reel
when he gets in in the second year. I don't
think it'll be first year with him. And but my
point is is, I don't think they'd put Woodson in,
and I hope I would love if they put Woodson
and Witting in Together'd be awesome, because you know, save
us two trips from going up there, because we're going.
Definitely we'd be playing in the game. I know that

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would be our team would be playing in the Hall
of Fame game. If that happens. I'm sure over the
next couple of year years, that will probably happen.

Speaker 12 (01:34:23):
All right, all right, thanks neck, I just wanted to
tell you what Adam Ranks said.

Speaker 13 (01:34:28):
Man, have a great show.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Don't even know that. Thank you appreciate it. We are
we are now now Now Lewis is just trolling trolling me. Now,
I hadn't called in like, you know, six six weeks,
maybe like two months. Now you've called twice. Love it?
What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
I told Chriz, I said, if we called it twice,
I figured out. I told my hand in there and
try it again.

Speaker 3 (01:34:53):
You're back in there.

Speaker 12 (01:34:54):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
I write the callers down, and I'm fifteen is about
is about the else I've ever done. So now we're
at eighteen and I was about to say we're not
going to stop till we get to twenty. And then
Chris Is said, last caller, So he must be.

Speaker 4 (01:35:08):
Getting all right, I think he might be getting tired.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Yeah, that's okay. You know what this guy's doe like
eight shows in the day during the season, so he's
not getting tired, he's just getting I mean, once we
get the same callers calling back and say, I think
it's a good sign to wrap this thing up. But Lewis,
what do.

Speaker 4 (01:35:24):
You got man? I I was calling Case. I was
listening to heard Less to say he wasn't trying to
get rid of Michael Parsons, and I agree with him.
I'm not either, So I kind of understand this take
now that he kind of broke it down. I wouldn't
mind Dallas going, you know, down there and trying to
figure out, like if there's a guy that disgrunts, or a
guy that might be able to be on his maybe

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two years or last year or his deal that might
want to get out of there, so something at him,
you know. So now I don't necessary I know most
people want picks, but can we package up a player
and maybe like a fit for six round pick, see
if we can get somebody, And me personally, I know
we got it. We're gonna go in the draft and
we're gonna do best player available at Hope. But at

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the same time, there's so many needs. I think you
have to would I would go best player available, But
in the free agency, you have to make some move.
We can't go and just get somebody that's gonna be
a million dollars here or a million dollars there. Got
to spend a little bit of money. That's what I
hope they do. And I know they're gonna sign a
lot of I hope they found a lot of their guys.

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But like you said, get a little bit of old,
get a little bit of new, and try to mix it.

Speaker 15 (01:36:38):
Up that way.

Speaker 4 (01:36:38):
And I and hopefully that works out. And like I said,
I ain't gonna hold you too long. So I appreciate y'all,
and I appreciate Chris to taking a call.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
Thank you, thank you. Good to hear from you again, Lewis.
And I think that'll do. That'll wrap it up for us.
I understand this this team. You know that that you
guys want some some new players in here. I mean,
they have to have new players. They gotta have an upgrade.
They can't just say, well, we had injuries and we'll
be fine. No that because because that being said, the

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teams from the from the previous year, they weren't good enough.
They were good good enough to get to the playoffs,
but not good enough to get over to the hump.
So you're gonna have to You're gonna have to keep
you know, Yes, you've got some good players on here.
We've got to keep building around it. Find the right fits,
find some guys that that maybe didn't work in another
system that could work here. That's the that's the always

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the trick with free agency is who needs that fresh started?
And who you know, I mean, Philadelphia is in the
super Bowl because of a guy like that that that
you know, needed that that fresh start. And you know,
look at them now and look how great of their
season that they you know, they've had. Uh, you need
to find find some of those figure out how to

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do that and figure out who those guys are and
and and bring them in here for the right price
and and and see how they how they fit. But
I do think this is a team that needs us
lash or two to mix in with with what they've got.
So all right, good show, got a lot of repeat callers,
got up to eighteen calls, a lot a lot of
fun today. Glad we could go into a little bit

(01:38:13):
of overtime, only do the one show a week and
that's not gonna change. But at least we can go
over every now and again. Today we're allowed to do that,
all right. For Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eepan. We'll see
you next Wednesday on Cowboys Storyline.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
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