December 30, 2024 • 49 mins
Any of the good vibes created in the last few weeks were smashed Sunday in Philly. Should that blowout loss force the Cowboys to change directions moving forward?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
The following.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and
the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline, Monday, December the thirtieth.
Getting close to the end here at twenty twenty four.
I'm sure some people are excited about that more than
others were. Getting really close to the end of the season.
It looked like the end.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Of the season.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
There four times in the Cowboys game against the Eagles
Philadelphia forty one Dallas seven. Wow, forty one to seven.
I'm watching that game. In the first quarter, second quarter,
I would have been shocked if you would have told
me they was going to finish up forty one to seven.
But we've seen that before with the Cowboys and Eagles.
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We've seen how those games work. You got one team
with a lot more talent on the field at the moment,
and you know, you can hang in there for a
little bit. You just keep going, keep going, keep leaning
on you next thing, you know, the bottom drops out
like that, and it certainly did Eagles when it forty
one to seven. We'll talk about it, see what it means,
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what it means for the rest of the season. What
it means for the future, which what it means in
period eighty eight eight eight eight, five, five, two two
nine seven is the number to call. We'll go right
to the lines. Let's go to Ali. He's in Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What's up man?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Good morning?
Speaker 7 (01:43):
I saved man.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
How are you pretty good?
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Sir?
Speaker 8 (01:47):
I got them. I hope you had a nice.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Christ it was it was good. Yeah, how about you?
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Pretty good?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I just suspend the time with the kids and a friends.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
This is all I love, Cristals.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It is my favorite to day. And I've got a
treata for you. And I have a question. I hang
up and you you get to it. When you get
to it. Number one? Is there something?
Speaker 7 (02:13):
I made it up myself?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
LB RB twenty six thread thirty nine joy What LB,
LB RB twenty six red thirty nine Joys.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's a play? What is it?
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Sign up?
Speaker 9 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
It's Ali play Okay.
Speaker 10 (02:37):
I make it easier for you.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Liberty Ball Razor Back twenty six thirty nine. That's my
second game. Watched it just for you, and I'll tell
you they've got some awesome players.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Oh yeah, LB, I thought you said MB okay.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Oh sorry, LB LB.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Okay, because that was like I thought you were saying,
Marion Barber running back from all right, Liberty Bowl. Okay,
so you're referring to the Arkansas win over Texas Tech
and the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yes, sir, awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
That was.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That was a good one. I was.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I was happy about that. So just you don't want
to go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
My question is this. I know we believe it's nice
to hire a Super Bowl coach and all that. I'm
not here to say fire anybody, hire anybody, but all
I know as a fan, it's been a long time
and I think it's kind of nice to see. I mean,
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yesterday it was so depressing. But I look at the Minnesota.
They brought O'Connor from Rams and Flores from m Bill
battle Check era, my.
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Young man Pitt.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They put the team together, young team, and they're looking
pretty good. I'm looking at all the past twenty Super
Bowl winners, all the team that are playoffs today, every
single one of them.
Speaker 9 (04:16):
Most of them they.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Won one or two Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
So I'm looking at our front office.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I think we used to teach being aggressive in draft trade.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
I look at the Eagle as much.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
As don't like to admit it, but the front office
v I trade. They got Jalen Carter top ten for
Carson Wentz and aj Brown on the trade that general
manager of Python got fired for it, and then you
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got free agent. You're gonna share second, Barkley, what do you.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Think they should do? Allie, what do you think they
should do? Then let's keep this right on.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I think they should open up. I think we should
open up to a little bit bit of mindset that
we don't have to go with the pub and Super
Bowl winner. You can't get these young coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Give us some.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Opportunity to build a team for two three years. I mean,
right now we are all over the map.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, all right, all right, well appreciate it. Have a
good one.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
You know, you can you can look at there's a
lot of young coaches out there. I mean, think think
of I mean it's not just the guys that are
in the playoffs. I mean there's there's teams out there
with young coaches that that are going to be drafted
in the top ten. I mean, like that's that's kind
of the way it is.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I think what Jerry tried to do was get a
coach that's been here before, that's done it before, that
knows how to build this and to build a team
that could win and compete for Super Bowls. It's exactly
what happened. And that's what they did. So I mean,
did they did they win it?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of course not. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
They got to the playoffs three years in a row.
They didn't this year. They they weren't good enough. They
weren't good enough, they were not deep enough. Everybody has injuries.
We know this, probably not to the extent the Cowboys had,
but everybody has injuries.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You got to figure out how to overcome it. And
this year it just there was way too much, you know,
just way too many injuries and just not enough depth,
not enough depth from the start. And that's something you know,
you can you can blame them for how they built
the team early saying you know, we can't we can't
afford anything, you know, any injuries, and they certainly had them.
So all right, let's go to Brian in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Brian, good morning, sir.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How are you Cowboys played the Eagles yesterday?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, kidding? All right, now, Well, you know it's this
season that's kind of a microcosm of the season, right
you look at we beat two teams that are going
to be in the playoffs. You know, we beat the Commanders,
we beat the Bucks, and then we got just absolutely
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clobbered yesterday. You know, that's kind of a microcosm of
our season. You know, it's just and and injuries. Injuries
is the headline of this season. There's no way to
avoid that. You know, it's not making excuses, that's the
headline of the whole season. That's everything. So I thought,
you know, as you know, we're kind of getting winded
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down to the end here, maybe discuss what you think
who not not what you think the Cowboys are going
to do, but in your mind, who are the top
couple of free agents on our team that you want?
For me, I'd say it's Jay Lou and Osa and
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I know he's going to be expensive.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And then for the other one, who do you think
who who would be the cap casualties? So and for
me that's Steel and and uh Wilson. Just looking at
the numbers, those are the ones that seem to make
sense to me. And I'll hang up and listen to
my friends.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, and happy New Year, sir, all right, you too,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, I don't know about getting getting rid of Steel.
I think Steel's played okay here lately. I don't know
about about that one. There's some things that could happen
with Steele's contract though they may there may actually be
a reduction.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He would be a candidate for that.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Maybe he's he is somebody and you can go like
different ways with him. You can do like four different
things with him. You can just you can cut him.
You cut him June one. You could, you could do nothing.
You could try to lower his base salary. So there
there's some things that could that could happen with him
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with Steel, and you know, you just don't have a
lot of I mean, what do you have in Geiten?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You don't know? What do you have in awesome Richards?
You don't know?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So you pretty much know what you have in Steel.
Got a fighter, You got a guy that that you know,
a pretty good run blocker.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I think I think he's he's.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Played better here lately, But still I don't know about
making that change. It's for donovand Wilson. He's a playmaker. Uh,
but you know, for that price you got to give
up something. Malik Hooker is another one, like you know
that that could be a situation where you kind of
you know, you may move on. But I think Jay
lou and and Oh Sar the two that that you
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said that that you would like to bring it. There's
a lot of them, you know, there's twenty twenty five
guys or so I'm interested to see what they do
with Turpin. He's a restricted free agent. That's one where
you know, do you want to pay him the second
round tender? It's about five million a year for just
a one year tender, and no one's gonna give a
second round pick, So so you would you would keep
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him for sure, But you know if you if you don't,
if you just do it like a regular restricted tender,
which means he's not drafted, so you're not gonna get
any compensation. Uh, it would be three million a year,
somebody would probably sign him and you'd lose him. So
I would probably keep him, especially the way they're using
him some on offense. They're still running the ball pretty
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well right up the middle. I wouldn't I wouldn't expecting that.
So those two guys, there's free agents and then also
I'm you know, and Cooper Rush, I mean, Cooper Rush
is another one I think they should probably try to
bring back as well. All right, coach Tyrone and DC
is our next caller.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Hey, what's going on? Nick? How you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
How are you doing? Coach?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Oh Man? DC is is red and red and gold
out here like it's it's their their party, their partying
pretty good. Well, it's been a while, it's been a while,
but it's okay. Yeah, okay, I got a question for you, Nick, Okay,
is it me or does it seem to be that
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Mike McCarthy out coaches himself And I'm speaking about a
specific drive, which was the first drive of the game.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, second three? Is that what you're gonna say?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Second in three?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yep, second and three, man, yep, second and three.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
I'm sitting here, it's second and three. Run the football.
He's picking up, Rico is picking up what he needs
to pick up. Yeah, run your football in on thirty three.
So okay, so let's let's it's compounded, Nick. So on
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that second and three, Cooper throws.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
The ball deep to Cooks.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yep, Brandon Cooks, but Jaylen Tobert runs the hook Ralph
and his wide open.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I and to me that looked like a play that
rush was just throwing like immediately, like that was that
was going to be the play like it didn't.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Even yeah it was, it was all it was already preconceived.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I'm okay. I think I'm okay with that. Cooks
needs to go vertical. You're trying to send a message.
Uh there there have been called there have been officiating
crews that would call p I on that. I mean,
if you look at the way he was kind of
tugging on him, you had a shot. They didn't call it,
and they didn't really call it a lot during the
game like that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So that's fine.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
But but you don't get it on second three, then
then on thirty because yeah, because because you're you're you
might be in four down territory. And then of course,
you know you could always kick the field goal there
that was against the win, So I'm not sure. But
but still, I mean I'm with you on that. I mean,
third and three, just to throw it and to kind
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of force it like that, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm not calling.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
That playoff second And that's what I mean by your
out coaching yourself. Yeah, like it doesn't make sense. The
high percentage play if you are about the analytics, the
high percentage played is to just run the football and
then if you don't get it, you have a kicker
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who can kick it from sixty five.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah with you.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
I mean, and now that changes, that changes the whole outlook.
That game, in my opinion, was lost on those two
downs because now you are playing from behind, which is
not something that we need to be doing. Yeah, you
don't need to play from behind.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
They came back and ran the football. I mean, they
came back and tied the game on the next drive
and then stopped them. You know, so you would have
thought an interception to start the game is I mean
that that's the last thing that they need. But they
did kind of overcome that. And I'm telling you what's
that game? In the first quarter, I wasn't sure who
was the better team. I really wasn't. I was like,
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I definitely didn't know who the better quarterback was.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I agree, So I definitely I definitely agree. Well, Cooper
Rust in my opinion, I'm up here, I'm saying to myself, well,
Cooper Rest is better than Kenny Picktt. So we should
be playing like we should be okay to to to
win this game. But but but but but this is
the thing too though, Nick. It's also it's not that
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they I understand what you're saying, that they came back,
they stopped them and they scored and they stopped them.
But it's it's it's mental. Yeah, it's a mental thing
that Okay, you just threw a pick six. Now the
defense gotta come back, or that we come back on
the field, and it's a mental thing. If you go
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down there and you score on the first drive, now
they have to play from behind. And it's mental and
that's what it just it drove me crazy to see
two straight pass and he gets passed. Happy, Well, you
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have an opportunity to just run the football.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I hear you, all right, I get it. Thanks for
the call.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And and that that was huge, you know, that was
a huge way start to the game. Again, they did
overcome that the game was lost to me one play,
one play in the second quarter. It ended everything and
that you can maybe argue two plays in a span
of about three and a half minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But the game's tied seven to seven.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
The Eagles have not done anything haven't gotten a first down,
and this is their third possession and it's second and
five at their own twenty four and Leah Foul comes
in and knocks the ball away or it was a
weird looking play, but he basically knocked the ball out
of Pickett's hand.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Barkley had it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
He got tackled for another yard loss and it was
like an eleven yard loss. It's about to be third
and sixteen from the thirteen yard line. Third and sixteen.
That that smells like draw play to Barkley or dump
off or whatever and then punt. So but Andrew Booth,
who who had a game for the Eagles, but he
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he that was one of his first plays there in
legal contact. He just had a rough day. I mean,
like that's that's just putting it nicely. And they picked
on him. They picked on him all day long. And
the Cowboys left him out there. They didn't have a
lot of options, and the Eagles, i mean, really was
third down. Everyone in the press box is saying it
third and eight here on the Eagles. Third and eight,
and they're like, where's Booth. They're gonna find him. Davante Smith,
you know, he looks like he's a guy that's gonna
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win the Heisman, in which he did. But I mean, seriously,
it was it was it was a rough day for
him and he's had a rough season. They you know,
they traded for him. He's a second round pick. But
you know, they just they had to keep playing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
They have to.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
They don't have a lot of options at corner, and
that wasn't the best one, but that that was the
game to me. They gave them the automatic first down.
They still had a third and eight where I think
there was another thirty four yard catch. Well, guy makes
a one handed catch and then they score, and then
it's fourteen to seven, and then that kind of changed everything.
Ferguson fumbles on the next play. But but if you
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you know, if you can get that stop there and
don't get an illegal contact penalty, you know, that's that was.
That was That's frustrating guy. Basically what I just said,
you know that that deep pass to Cooks, I mean,
they were, they were, they were hitting the whole game
like that, so that particular play was against what they
normally were calling.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That whole game.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
All right, let's go to Travis and san Antonio. Travis,
what's up, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Hey, har are you pretty good?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Not so great yesterday?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But it is what it is, yeap, and it's not good.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
I just wanted to hit two things real quick and
then I'll hop off and seots thing. But the first
thing is I wanted to mention because it kind of
bugged me yesterday, even though it seems it was sign
count point list was I know if you already hit
on this, but the bringing in Trey Lance with two
minutes to go, like I sort of was sitting here,
like say, watching.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
The game, like what are we doing?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Like, and I know Mike Marthy said, like what I
wanted to bring him in theossession before that, but at
like ten minutes ago, when it was forty one to seven,
I was like, hey, this is Trey Lance times and
they didn't bring him in. I was like, then we
brought up with two minutes ago, I'm like, what What's
I mean? That just didn't make any sense to me.
So I'm just curious what you thought of it. It just
seemed weird, like you probably could have just brought Cooper
out to throw one more pass and a run and
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just finish out that game.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
But neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So that's that.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
And then the other thing we were talking about in
one of the spaces the other day, Nick and I
know you guys kind of hited something like this before,
but we were talking about the possibility that let's just
say Mike comes back and you know, the combination of
them being tied to the hip like him and Zimmer,
and I thought, you know, I don't I don't necessarily
believe that because I think Jerry has more invested in
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Mike McCarthy than he does Zimmer at this point. And
the idea was, like I thought, because you know, I
went outside the box guy. But I thought about it
for a second and I thought, you know, after his comments,
Zimmer's comments about you know, this year has been hard,
I take that with him to kind of kind of
to heart, because I don't think he's a cryptic messenger
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type of guy, Like he's not passive aggress so if
he just tells you how it is, And I just wonder,
you know, he came into this year thinking, like, you know,
I'll go be a DC and this is a twelve
and five team, and hey, we'll take a shot out
and see what happens. But then I think Nick you
get into the season and these coaches put in all
long hours and he is sixty eight, I think, but
like maybe he's sitting there thinking like, man, I forgot
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about you know, all this type of stuff that I
gotta do and it is hard, and you know, maybe
going back to being a grandpa would be a little
better than doing this. And I started thinking, like, they
they kept al Harris around for a reason, right, They
gave him that elvaated associate, he coach position to keep
him when they probably like he was probably gonna leave.
So I wondered, did they bring him in Zimber, I mean,
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did they bring him in to sort of trans from
this defense over from what dan Quinn had implement the defense?
And my thought was, they don't just keep a guy
around that for no reason. Why to see potential? So
should there be a situation Nick where they sort of
if he decides to step step away and go back
to be retired, to he hand us off to Al Harris? Right,
that's what I see what you thought?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, that's a that's a that's a tough one. There's
a lot of things going on there. Try to word
this the right way because there's a there's a dynamic
there and that defensive side of the ball that it's
been tough. Okay, it's been it's been a tough year
and it's not just the injuries. So I don't I
(20:43):
really can't say a lot what I want to say there.
There's gonna be some changes on defense. I don't know
exactly what that means as far as does it does
it mean zimmer is al Harris?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I really don't know, but but I know that there
will be some changes. Now, let's don't get too far
into the weeds of when the guy says it's been hard,
I mean, like, does that mean he's done with it?
It was just too hard for him to coach? I mean,
he's as tough as they get, so, but I mean,
or is he just referring to the fact that, you know,
when he takes the job, he's like, what do we have?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
What?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
We have Parsons and we have Tank. They both went
to the Pro Bowl last year. We got a guy
named Sam Williams who's going to be a really good
pass rusher. That's three guys right there, and we drafted
Marshawn Nelam. That's another guy right there. We got Digs
in plans, Diggs coming back, Bland, They then make the
safeties a lot better, and watch out for this overshown
guy like like and Kendricks. Yeah, Kendricks. I mean this
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is you know, you brought him in, so that's what
we have. Oh okay, Well, how many of those guys
played the whole season? I I don't think any of
them right. Of all the guys I just mentioned, Kendricks
has missed two games over shown every guy that I
just mentioned there, Bland and Diggs they both missed like
half the season, and your linebackers, and you got Kendricks
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has been in and now he's been pretty good, but
he's missed a couple. Overshown has missed you know, he's
gonna miss five or six games now probably, And then
you know, Sam Williams never even got to a preseason game,
and then Tank Tank played three games and Mike has
missed five. So you know that's maybe what he's being
when when when it's hard, it's like, oh, we're gonna
sign this guy. I can't pronounce his name. I think
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it's over and he's gonna play tonight and he's gonna
make this way and then he's gonna beat hindured and
he's coming back and he's gonna play again, and we're
gonna have Carl Lawson and we're gonna have all these
guys at booth. And just just maybe that's the part
that he meant about being hard.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
All Right, let's go to one caller here before we
take a break. Robbie Coco Beach, Florida.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
What's up today?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Good?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I'm good.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
The game turned out kind of how I expected. I mean,
there were some really good things in the beginning, like
you were talking about earlier, except for the interception. I
wonder what happens if we don't sw that takes there? Yeah,
I mean we get two scorers right off the bat
and then shut him down. That next time was three
and out. That it's been great.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
We still play good.
Speaker 12 (23:07):
Yeah, guy, I wish you could say more about what
your feelings are about the defense.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I just I just think there's gonna be some changes.
I don't think the dynamics of it were great, you know,
And and and that's that's usually what happens when you
have a guy. I mean, it's just you have a
guy that was that was there and in line and
you know, maybe you know he has a chance to
be the DC, and then you make him the assistant
head coach.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I just I don't see all of those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Coming back the same and the same role, the same
role of Zimmer and Harris and then McCarthy that those
three I don't see all that kind of working itself out.
But again, the main thing was that was for defense
was just the lack of continuity with all those injuries.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The defense wasn't bad.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
We we you can say when the defense when they
had most of their guys, including Micah, they've been pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
They've been pretty good.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Yeah, they've been solid. I'll say it again. I've said
all year. I know Rob doesn't always agree with me,
and then he does and then he doesn't. But Captain,
my captain, I disagree. I think Mike McCarthy needs to
come back. I like him, and continuity breaths consistency.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Right, Yeah, well, I mean you would you would hope so,
you know, but still comes back or not. I still
think that they need to have some kind of changes there.
The offense change some tweaks too, So you know he
can come. I think he's going to be able to
come back. But I think that they're going to have
to make some kind of changes on the on the
offense and may see a different coordinator maybe, yeah, maybe
(24:33):
a new play caller because you know there there has
been some sometimes there. Now if he's you know, willing
to do that, I mean that's how he That's how
he got the job.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You know, he got the job.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And I don't think he loved the idea of Kellen
Moore being here and calling the plays, but I mean
they don't. Well, they led the league in yards and
and and points I think for those two years.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So you know, it worked. It works. You get a
guy that he likes and trust and it could work.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
So and you know what else I'd like to see
I've said a couple of times, but boy, I think
Michael Parsons would shine in the three four. Yeah, And
I don't know if Al Harris says any knowledge of that.
If it does, that's what I'd like to see. I
know it take a year or two before we got
all the pieces, but a man, I'll talk about three
to four off the air if you want to or
take a break.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Thanks, thanks Robbie the producer is letting me know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I do need to take a break, but uh, three four,
you know it, it does take a little bit of time.
The Cowboys got fortunate when they were trying to do
it in two thousand and five and they just had
a great draft that fell perfectly for them. They were
able to get some guys and get some pieces and
and made that switch with Zimmer. Now Zimmer was the
was the coordinator. He switched as well. He was four
to three guy. He switched to three four with with
(25:46):
Parcels and so they they've they've made that work. But yeah,
you need some different defensive tackles for that. You need
some linebackers, you know. To say that Micah and Sam
Williams could could do that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I think I think it could. I mean I think
they could. They could.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
They could maybe switch to three four, But they're going
to have to get some pieces in place there. And
I don't know exactly where Overshown would fit into that,
especially with the injury now, but I'm not sure his
best position in that in the three fourth scheme. Then again,
it's going to be hard for him to get back
at the start of the season. But again, I'm not
going to count them out. Let's go to break here
on Cowboy storyline. Be right back after this.
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Speaker 1 (27:57):
It's the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Story Hue, welcome back Cowboys storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Let's go straight to the phone lines. We got Chuck d.
He's been holding a little bit. Chuck D Bridge shady Texas.
What's up?
Speaker 15 (28:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
How are you right?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (28:17):
One thing I noticed about the game and will pass
two games, is we cannot get a good pass to Mingo.
That poor guy he can.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
He does not get the ball thrown to him at all.
Like there was one play right to his chest. He
caught it, but everything else. It's low, it's high, it's
to the side. I mean, I I he's probably like,
what in the world do I have to do now
that deep ball?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm not one hundred but I don't really know.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I'm not one hundred percent sure that he turned the
wrong way or or what. But he had him, I
mean had it was a great stop and go. That's
exactly the type of player, of the type of move
that you wanted to see out of him. You know, big,
strong guy with speed, and he showed it there. But
then the pass was was off or he didn't turn
the right way.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm not sure, But.
Speaker 15 (29:07):
Who is this that you don't really see him and
he's big, and then I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
He's he's got you know, he's got the size and speed.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And all that.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I mean, he is a freak. But you know, there's
there's some things that got to be cleaned up. And
it's not just the ball that not thrown there. I'm
sure he's got to you know, he could be better
with the routes and all that kind of stuff. I
He's one that if if Dak's got the backyard, you know,
the dackyard is open. For business. Mingo's got to be
right there, you know. When we've seen these guys that
(29:43):
do it. We've seen Cedric Wilson spend all summer there
and he had a really good season. We saw Jalen
Tolbert do it. Tolbert's had a good season here, I
mean it's been solid. He's catching touchdowns. But Mingo needs
to be there, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
No doubt.
Speaker 15 (29:59):
And U hey, I've seen him. I don't know if
you've seen this video, but Eagles fan giving Jerry a
hard time and one of the shots he's like looking
at on the field and the fans are turning around.
Let them have it?
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Uh man? Is that it always is?
Speaker 15 (30:14):
That they're sitting in the glass boof like that and
the fans can just see them.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't see it, but was it classless?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (30:26):
It just fits like a clear glass and they're like
right up against it and the fans that right underneath
it are just turning around looking at them, and yeah,
pretty sure shooting on the finger and just let them
have it. I'm like, geez, they gotta do everything.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah yeah, that's every time. I mean that's yeah, that's
every time, every place, every every inch of that stadium
inside outside. Yeah, I mean that's just that's part for
the course right there at Philadelphia. You know, there's no
other place where they just chant, you know, Dallas sucks,
Cowboys suck. No other place that they do that. You
you'll get some, you'll get them flying fingers every now
(31:03):
and again, you know when when you're when you're driving it.
But it's very consistent there. That's the that's the way
that it is. Hey, they have a great football team.
They're passionate, you know, good for them. But i mean,
let's not you know, when when you're when you're talking
about class, you know, and things like that. I mean,
they're still looking for the C in the l They
always have been. So that's this kind of the way
(31:23):
it is in Philly. All right, let's go to Champ
in Nebraska.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Champ, what's up, Hey, May, good morning.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
How are you.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
I'm doing well? I guess not a victory Monday, but hey,
I'm alive.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Far from it actually, and not not really any anything
close to that as far as I'm sorry, as far
as the victory Monday, Yes you're alive, yes, yeah, of course.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
All right, do you have a couple of quss I. Lastly,
when I called, I talked to you about McCarthy and
his job status, how I felt like listening to him
on one on five one through the fan, he shouted
a little more up me, didn't sound like he was
coaching for his job, and during the game I kind
of felt like he's not coaching for his job. Kids.
Just it felt different than it had the last few weeks.
(32:14):
Some of the calls he was making, I know you
and another one of the callers talked about that calling
or whatnot. So I just felt like, I'm secure, I'm good,
I know I've been told I'm coming back. I'm okay,
let's just do this, which led to some remarks I
don't know. I'm sure you probably heard that Turpin made
(32:36):
about not opening the offense up, saying, you know, we
were told that we didn't have CD, we'd be throwing
the ball down field and whatnot, and that never really happened.
He didn't seem real happy with the way the offense
was called. I don't know why they didn't give him
some of those chances. Maybe they just didn't have the time.
(32:56):
I don't know. He didn't seem happy. The other thing
was yeah, right, it was after the game. It was
some of the comments he made, Yeah, about the often,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I didn't hear all that. I don't know what he
has to be unhappy about. But that again I didn't
hear it. I didn't hear it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
They threw the ball down the field.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
You know, they threw the ball down the field of
Mingo and he didn't right run the right way or the.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Past wasn't right right.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
They threw it deep to Cooked early in the game.
We talked about that. It didn't make I mean, I
think they tried to throw the ball down the field
at at times. You know, there was a time where
he threw it underneath the Ferguson. He should have thrown
it to Tolbert down by the eagle sideline. He dumped
it off to Ferguson and Ferguson got stripped and fumbled
and that changed the game big time. But you know,
(33:44):
I don't know about not opening it up. And again
I did not hear what Turpin said.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Maybe he just thought he was going to get more
shots than from his comments.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Maybe. I mean.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
The other thing was it you happen to watch the
video that of the Jerry was kind of getting her
ass by the Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
You know, I need to This is the second time
it's been brought up in a row second caller, but
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I don't see. Well, then I'm going to give you
my opinion on it. You know, we're critical of Jerry,
all of us as fans. We talk about it and
we get mad at him. We wanted to do this
and we do that. But I was a little pissed
off watching that video. I didn't see much fun in
it from them. They were kind of mocking him, and
(34:30):
at one point they went to take a picture and
the guy says, don't touch me, and it just, you know,
I feel like this said big brother and little brother thing.
I can pick on my little brother as much as
I want, but don't you do it. I can talk
about my owner, but don't you do it. Especially as
a Philadelphia fan. It just really really didn't print well
(34:51):
with me the way that went. And Jerry is being Jerry,
and he's always a good guy, especially with fans visiting fans,
and he tall and he handled it Michael professional. I'll
give him that. He had every right to just walk away,
but he didn't. Give into that and I'll give him
that credit. So good for him. Yeah, you guys, and
(35:13):
get that. Don't talk to you tomorrow, do you guys?
Have a great year. Save the hear and we'll talk
to you later.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All right, appreciate it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah again, I I we we we get on the
bus right after the game, you know, flying back and
you know, working writing articles, get home. So no, I
didn't see all that. I'm just trying to figure out
what time the game is and what day it's on.
So like, like, I'll be honest, I didn't see all
of that. Apparently it's something, and I get there. I
get that part. You know, it's easy to talk, you know,
(35:43):
about Jerry and all that. Then when someone else does,
especially an Eagle fan, you're like, what, Yeah, I totally
understand that. I didn't see it, but I know that.
You know, nobody takes criticism more or better than Jerry.
Jerry can handle it. Okay, he can handle it. He
handles it every single week, every you know, three four
times a week. He can handle that. That's kind of
(36:03):
what he is and what he's done. Again, I didn't
see it. But if it's an Eagles fan or two
or three that are you know that are being disrespectful.
I mean that just means like, oh, it must be
a day that ends with why, Like that's what it is.
I mean, that's what you expect when you go there. Again,
if you're looking for class, that's you go to school. Okay,
(36:25):
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Cowboy storyline, be right back.
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Back to Cowboys story.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Run all right back here on Cowboys storyline. We got
chance for about ten more minutes. Let's go to Robin Vegas.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's that ker How everything good?
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
How are you good?
Speaker 8 (37:56):
Good?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (37:58):
You know Ollie call earlier and he was absolutely right.
The difference between Philadelphia and Dallas is the front office.
I mean, Philly's what the Cowboys used to be. Jerry
used to be aggressive in in the draft and going
after players, and he's not anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
And they are.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
And that's what that's the difference. It's it's not the quarterback.
The quarterbacks are very similar, they do it differently. It's
not the coaches. Sirianni and Mike McCaffey are just average coaches.
The differences free agencies, the differences just in that game
just look at that game alone, that the three guys
that killed you, Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown got an all
(38:44):
free agents, and and that's why we fell so far
behind these teams.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Now.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
You know a couple of years ago, last year, and
maybe even two years ago, we were competing. Everybody kept
talking about we got to get past San Francisco, you know,
Philly in the division. Well, hell now we're behind Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Pirley.
I mean, we just fell so far behind. And when
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I hear Robbie talk about Mike McCarthy or any fan,
I say to myself, why would you want Magic Mike back?
But you want to take away the play calling? And
that was the reason why he.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Was brought here.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
That's like me hiring you to a five year contract
to be a salesman. You fail, and I make you
my receptionist. It doesn't work that way. Is there's no
reason to bring him back if you're going to take
away why he was here. He has done nothing better
than Jason Garrets and he was supposed to go further.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
What's your stance today, I mean, what is your stance
with with McCarthy now? So that did that game change
your opinion on back or what.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Do you think.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
No, my stance was I never wanted him to. My
stance was I thought Jerry was going to bring him back.
I think after yesterday, I don't think he's coming back
because Jerry can't sell this to us. He's already cut well.
His son's already come out and told us we're not
going to spend money next year. So you're not going
(40:20):
to spend money next year, and you're going to bring
back this guy. No, you can't sell that to the fence.
This coach has showed you that unless everything goes absolutely perfect,
and your quarterback is in an MVP race and your
wide receiver is top two and everything and Mike and everybody,
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and you still couldn't in a playoffs game. He doesn't
make the team better, he doesn't give you an edge
over other coaches. And sometimes he's a detriment. Like the
other callers said, second and three, you're chucked in the
ball over the yard. If it was Dak, I could
understand it. I'd be still mad, But I can say
(41:04):
Cooper Rush is not the guy to do that with.
And he's done this not only this year, he's done
it last years it's in his DNA. He will never
stick with the run. So if we're talking about drafting,
let's say Gentry GENTI, why, yeah, he wouldn't use it.
So what I'm saying is he's just not the guy
(41:25):
for the job. That's all five years has failed. He's
got one playoff win in five years, and now you've
got to rebuild the team. And I don't think if
you're going to rebuild a team, I wouldn't rebuild a
team with him, bringing a young guy, or bringing a
guy that maybe different style, like a Mike Rabel. He's
(41:46):
a different style, and go get a young OC or
go after Ben Johnson because he proves that he could
really run an offense. But I just don't understand bring
him back Magic Mike and saying we're gonna take this away.
We're gonna take this away, we're gonna change your coaches out.
But you get to live, you get to stay. No, No,
(42:08):
that's not right. He should go down with the ship.
He's had five years. And like I said, I think
yesterday was so embarrassing that I just don't think. And
you know, and listen, you know, Jerry Jones, it's about marketing.
It's about looking towards the streets. He he hears the
fans he's you know, they always say they don't, but
(42:28):
they do.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
And I just don't think.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You could sell that to us when you already basically
threw a black ut over the next.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Let's be honest, does Jerry have to sell it to you?
Like like, I know you say that, but disease.
Speaker 10 (42:42):
I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you, Nick, yes,
because I shut that game off at halftime. And I've
done that more this year than fifty years of being
a Cowboy fan, no joke. This has been the worst
year to watch the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
Did you.
Speaker 10 (42:59):
Tell I did not?
Speaker 7 (43:00):
Did not?
Speaker 10 (43:00):
Okay, I had no idea what happened after halftime.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that had nothing to do with twenty four to seven.
You just I mean that that, you know, you shut
it off because it was two four seven.
Speaker 10 (43:10):
It had to do with the but it also had
to do with the product on the field, it had
to do with It's just it's boring, okay, all right,
Mike McCarthy is boring.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Well that yeah, that's that's all. That's not gonna change. Like,
that's not gonna change.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I appreciate it. We got to take one more caller.
Thank you, and call back tomorrow if you can. We
do have a show tomorrow. And I and I when
I say that, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to
you guys, to to the fans, like your opinion doesn't
matter and all that, but the whole selling it, you know,
he's gonna they're gonna spin it the way they've always
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you know, spun it, and and and he's looking for
for continuity, and he's and he's you know, he doesn't
necessarily want to change if that's what they do again,
I don't know if if they're making a change or not.
I think it's still it's still on the table and
anything is possible at this point. Let's go to one
more call here. Richard is in California.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Richard, good morning, How are you good?
Speaker 7 (44:05):
How are you doing well?
Speaker 9 (44:07):
If I'm honest, I'm struggling. I've been a Cowboys fan
since nineteen seventy eight. I live here in Ventura, California,
probably five miles from training camp Nice and I have
two questions for you, one about yesterday's game and one
about the long term picture for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Can I stop you real quick, because this is your
first time call.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
It is my first time call, time listener.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Here we go, all right, got to get that in.
Speaker 9 (44:33):
All right, no, no, no problem, thank.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
You, let's go. Here we go.
Speaker 9 (44:37):
I'm interested in your perspective on the third and one
call yesterday where they threw it like forty five yards
down the field for an incomplete house.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
So funny, so funny you brought this up because I
actually am looking at that like as another play that
should be mentioned because they called time out beforehand. You're
talking about in the second quarter they had one.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Seven, they called time out.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
And then to talk about it, that looked like a
two play. It looks like you're going to go for
it here because you're on your own forty one, you're
probably going to go for it if you call time
out third one and then they throw it deep to Mingo.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
Yeah, I just I didn't understand that. And then my
second question for you is we've got a head coach
and a defensive coordinator who's heyday was in the nineties.
Their heyday was in the nineties. We haven't won in
three decades. Mike McCarthy. If we look at his five
year record with the Cowboys. If you take the three
years dan quinn was on the team out of the equation,
(45:30):
he's thirteen and nineteen, probably going to be thirteen and twenty.
I don't understand why we would keep him other than
Jerry being stubborn.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
What's the record thirteen in twenty for what?
Speaker 9 (45:41):
For Mike McCarthy in the two years he had did
not have dan Quinn as a coordinator. I think dan
Quinn really developed the culture in that organization. I don't
think Mike has. And if you look at the first year,
in the last year that McCarthy coached without Quinn, he's
thirteen and nineteen, probably gonna end up thirteen and twenty.
Why would you keep him unless it's just because Jerry
stubborn and he wants to try to prove that he's right.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
I'm not one hundred percent with you on the fact
that it's it's dan Quinn, you know, just just dan
Quinn alone, like that was the reason. But you know
that's that's that's fair. And and and you said the nineties,
are you talking about Zimmer? You're not talking about McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
Jimmer, Jimmer and McCarthy there Haydi was in the nineties.
The game has evolved so much in the last twenty
five years, thirty years, and we don't seem to want
to bring in a young, innovative, creative mind. Yeah, all
the teams that seem to be winning, with the exception
of the Chiefs, who have the best quarterback in the game.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not going to argue with
you on that.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
I mean, like you're you're you're eleven years ago is
still a long time ago. So let's just let's say that.
Let's say it called the nineties, but you know, it
was twenty eleven. I mean, he actually won the Super
Bowl at AT and T Stadium, so it's not like
it was the you know, there was that long go
But it's been a while. If you want to make
that argument, that's fine. It's it's been what thirteen years
(47:05):
or so. But yeah, again, like the team's last three
years were good teams, good to great.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
That's what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Come in here, and they had a good they had
a good run, but they got to win in the
playoffs and they did not. They did not win in
the playoffs this year. They probably weren't headed there even
without the injuries, they probably weren't. So I just can't
get past the Saints game. The Saints game, I can't
get past it. Yes, they played better, but they had
(47:40):
all the guys there, and they got smashed by a
team that ended up being bad. So they're gonna pick.
They're gonna pick before you pick. And so you got
beat by a Saints team at home, and that was
just kind of that just started this whole thing. And
so yes, you could say the and the injuries did matter.
There's no doubt about it. You cannot lose that many
players to injuries. That's what they were counting on. They
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were counting on all these guys. I mean, Jerry said,
he went the first press conference of augst already said
we've got fourteen Pro Bowl players that had been to
the Pro Bowl. We had ten last year. Fourteen guys
that we have a really good roster. And of those
fourteen players, I think eleven of them have missed multiple
games this year and a six or seven of them
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have been on injured reserve. So that's that's just in
this era, that's just too hard to overcome. Now, that
probably prevented them from from you know, making a push
here in the last couple weeks to make it to
the playoffs, but that Saints game showed you there were problems.
There were problems that had nothing to do with injuries.
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So I think I think it's a little bit of both.
It's not just one thing or another. It's a little
bit of both. Guys, great great show today, great call,
great calls. We're going to talk about it tomorrow. We'll
be here tomorrow and then we'll come back on Thursday.
So we'll not be here on New Year's Day, just
the same as schedules last week for Christmas. We'll go
four times this week and we'll be back tomorrow. So
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we'll for Chris be I'm Nick Eatman see tomorrow on
Cowboy Storyline.
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This is Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline, Monday, December the thirtieth.
Getting close to the end here at twenty twenty four.
I'm sure some people are excited about that more than
others were. Getting really close to the end of the season.
It looked like the end.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Of the season.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
There four times in the Cowboys game against the Eagles
Philadelphia forty one Dallas seven. Wow, forty one to seven.
I'm watching that game. In the first quarter, second quarter,
I would have been shocked if you would have told
me they was going to finish up forty one to seven.
But we've seen that before with the Cowboys and Eagles.
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We've seen how those games work. You got one team
with a lot more talent on the field at the moment,
and you know, you can hang in there for a
little bit. You just keep going, keep going, keep leaning
on you next thing, you know, the bottom drops out
like that, and it certainly did Eagles when it forty
one to seven. We'll talk about it, see what it means,
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what it means for the rest of the season. What
it means for the future, which what it means in
period eighty eight eight eight eight, five, five, two two
nine seven is the number to call. We'll go right
to the lines. Let's go to Ali. He's in Florida.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
What's up man?
Speaker 6 (01:42):
Good morning?
Speaker 7 (01:43):
I saved man.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
How are you pretty good?
Speaker 7 (01:46):
Sir?
Speaker 8 (01:47):
I got them. I hope you had a nice.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Christ it was it was good. Yeah, how about you?
Speaker 8 (01:53):
Pretty good?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
I just suspend the time with the kids and a friends.
Speaker 7 (01:57):
This is all I love, Cristals.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
It is my favorite to day. And I've got a
treata for you. And I have a question. I hang
up and you you get to it. When you get
to it. Number one? Is there something?
Speaker 7 (02:13):
I made it up myself?
Speaker 6 (02:16):
LB RB twenty six thread thirty nine joy What LB,
LB RB twenty six red thirty nine Joys.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
That's a play? What is it?
Speaker 8 (02:34):
Sign up?
Speaker 9 (02:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
It's Ali play Okay.
Speaker 10 (02:37):
I make it easier for you.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
Liberty Ball Razor Back twenty six thirty nine. That's my
second game. Watched it just for you, and I'll tell
you they've got some awesome players.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
Oh yeah, LB, I thought you said MB okay.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Oh sorry, LB LB.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Okay, because that was like I thought you were saying,
Marion Barber running back from all right, Liberty Bowl. Okay,
so you're referring to the Arkansas win over Texas Tech
and the Liberty Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yes, sir, awesome, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
That was.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That was a good one. I was.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I was happy about that. So just you don't want
to go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
My question is this. I know we believe it's nice
to hire a Super Bowl coach and all that. I'm
not here to say fire anybody, hire anybody, but all
I know as a fan, it's been a long time
and I think it's kind of nice to see. I mean,
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yesterday it was so depressing. But I look at the Minnesota.
They brought O'Connor from Rams and Flores from m Bill
battle Check era, my.
Speaker 8 (03:58):
Young man Pitt.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
They put the team together, young team, and they're looking
pretty good. I'm looking at all the past twenty Super
Bowl winners, all the team that are playoffs today, every
single one of them.
Speaker 9 (04:16):
Most of them they.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Won one or two Super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (04:20):
So I'm looking at our front office.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
I think we used to teach being aggressive in draft trade.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
I look at the Eagle as much.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
As don't like to admit it, but the front office
v I trade. They got Jalen Carter top ten for
Carson Wentz and aj Brown on the trade that general
manager of Python got fired for it, and then you
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got free agent. You're gonna share second, Barkley, what do you.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Think they should do? Allie, what do you think they
should do? Then let's keep this right on.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I think they should open up. I think we should
open up to a little bit bit of mindset that
we don't have to go with the pub and Super
Bowl winner. You can't get these young coaches.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Give us some.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Opportunity to build a team for two three years. I mean,
right now we are all over the map.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, all right, all right, well appreciate it. Have a
good one.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
You know, you can you can look at there's a
lot of young coaches out there. I mean, think think
of I mean it's not just the guys that are
in the playoffs. I mean there's there's teams out there
with young coaches that that are going to be drafted
in the top ten. I mean, like that's that's kind
of the way it is.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I think.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I think what Jerry tried to do was get a
coach that's been here before, that's done it before, that
knows how to build this and to build a team
that could win and compete for Super Bowls. It's exactly
what happened. And that's what they did. So I mean,
did they did they win it?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of course not. They didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
They got to the playoffs three years in a row.
They didn't this year. They they weren't good enough. They
weren't good enough, they were not deep enough. Everybody has injuries.
We know this, probably not to the extent the Cowboys had,
but everybody has injuries.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
They got to deal with it.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You got to figure out how to overcome it. And
this year it just there was way too much, you know,
just way too many injuries and just not enough depth,
not enough depth from the start. And that's something you know,
you can you can blame them for how they built
the team early saying you know, we can't we can't
afford anything, you know, any injuries, and they certainly had them.
So all right, let's go to Brian in Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
Brian, good morning, sir.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
How are you Cowboys played the Eagles yesterday?
Speaker 8 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
No, kidding? All right, now, Well, you know it's this
season that's kind of a microcosm of the season, right
you look at we beat two teams that are going
to be in the playoffs. You know, we beat the Commanders,
we beat the Bucks, and then we got just absolutely
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clobbered yesterday. You know, that's kind of a microcosm of
our season. You know, it's just and and injuries. Injuries
is the headline of this season. There's no way to
avoid that. You know, it's not making excuses, that's the
headline of the whole season. That's everything. So I thought,
you know, as you know, we're kind of getting winded
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down to the end here, maybe discuss what you think
who not not what you think the Cowboys are going
to do, but in your mind, who are the top
couple of free agents on our team that you want?
For me, I'd say it's Jay Lou and Osa and
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I know he's going to be expensive.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
But.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
And then for the other one, who do you think
who who would be the cap casualties? So and for
me that's Steel and and uh Wilson. Just looking at
the numbers, those are the ones that seem to make
sense to me. And I'll hang up and listen to
my friends.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, and happy New Year, sir, all right, you too,
thank you.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Yeah, I don't know about getting getting rid of Steel.
I think Steel's played okay here lately. I don't know
about about that one. There's some things that could happen
with Steele's contract though they may there may actually be
a reduction.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He would be a candidate for that.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Maybe he's he is somebody and you can go like
different ways with him. You can do like four different
things with him. You can just you can cut him.
You cut him June one. You could, you could do nothing.
You could try to lower his base salary. So there
there's some things that could that could happen with him
(09:01):
with Steel, and you know, you just don't have a
lot of I mean, what do you have in Geiten?
Speaker 8 (09:06):
What do you have?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You don't know? What do you have in awesome Richards?
You don't know?
Speaker 5 (09:11):
So you pretty much know what you have in Steel.
Got a fighter, You got a guy that that you know,
a pretty good run blocker.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I think I think he's he's.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Played better here lately, But still I don't know about
making that change. It's for donovand Wilson. He's a playmaker. Uh,
but you know, for that price you got to give
up something. Malik Hooker is another one, like you know
that that could be a situation where you kind of
you know, you may move on. But I think Jay
lou and and Oh Sar the two that that you
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said that that you would like to bring it. There's
a lot of them, you know, there's twenty twenty five
guys or so I'm interested to see what they do
with Turpin. He's a restricted free agent. That's one where
you know, do you want to pay him the second
round tender? It's about five million a year for just
a one year tender, and no one's gonna give a
second round pick, So so you would you would keep
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him for sure, But you know if you if you don't,
if you just do it like a regular restricted tender,
which means he's not drafted, so you're not gonna get
any compensation. Uh, it would be three million a year,
somebody would probably sign him and you'd lose him. So
I would probably keep him, especially the way they're using
him some on offense. They're still running the ball pretty
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well right up the middle. I wouldn't I wouldn't expecting that.
So those two guys, there's free agents and then also
I'm you know, and Cooper Rush, I mean, Cooper Rush
is another one I think they should probably try to
bring back as well. All right, coach Tyrone and DC
is our next caller.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
Hey, what's going on? Nick? How you doing?
Speaker 7 (10:39):
Man?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
How are you doing? Coach?
Speaker 8 (10:41):
Oh Man? DC is is red and red and gold
out here like it's it's their their party, their partying
pretty good. Well, it's been a while, it's been a while,
but it's okay. Yeah, okay, I got a question for you, Nick, Okay,
is it me or does it seem to be that
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Mike McCarthy out coaches himself And I'm speaking about a
specific drive, which was the first drive of the game.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, second three? Is that what you're gonna say?
Speaker 8 (11:16):
Second in three?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yep, second and three, man, yep, second and three.
Speaker 8 (11:25):
I'm sitting here, it's second and three. Run the football.
He's picking up, Rico is picking up what he needs
to pick up. Yeah, run your football in on thirty three.
So okay, so let's let's it's compounded, Nick. So on
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that second and three, Cooper throws.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
The ball deep to Cooks.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Yep, Brandon Cooks, but Jaylen Tobert runs the hook Ralph
and his wide open.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
I and to me that looked like a play that
rush was just throwing like immediately, like that was that
was going to be the play like it didn't.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Even yeah it was, it was all it was already preconceived.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I'm okay. I think I'm okay with that. Cooks
needs to go vertical. You're trying to send a message.
Uh there there have been called there have been officiating
crews that would call p I on that. I mean,
if you look at the way he was kind of
tugging on him, you had a shot. They didn't call it,
and they didn't really call it a lot during the
game like that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So that's fine.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
But but you don't get it on second three, then
then on thirty because yeah, because because you're you're you
might be in four down territory. And then of course,
you know you could always kick the field goal there
that was against the win, So I'm not sure. But
but still, I mean I'm with you on that. I mean,
third and three, just to throw it and to kind
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of force it like that, Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm not calling.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
That playoff second And that's what I mean by your
out coaching yourself. Yeah, like it doesn't make sense. The
high percentage play if you are about the analytics, the
high percentage played is to just run the football and
then if you don't get it, you have a kicker
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who can kick it from sixty five.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah with you.
Speaker 8 (13:21):
I mean, and now that changes, that changes the whole outlook.
That game, in my opinion, was lost on those two
downs because now you are playing from behind, which is
not something that we need to be doing. Yeah, you
don't need to play from behind.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
They came back and ran the football. I mean, they
came back and tied the game on the next drive
and then stopped them. You know, so you would have
thought an interception to start the game is I mean
that that's the last thing that they need. But they
did kind of overcome that. And I'm telling you what's
that game? In the first quarter, I wasn't sure who
was the better team. I really wasn't. I was like,
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I definitely didn't know who the better quarterback was.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
I agree, So I definitely I definitely agree. Well, Cooper
Rust in my opinion, I'm up here, I'm saying to myself, well,
Cooper Rest is better than Kenny Picktt. So we should
be playing like we should be okay to to to
win this game. But but but but but this is
the thing too though, Nick. It's also it's not that
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they I understand what you're saying, that they came back,
they stopped them and they scored and they stopped them.
But it's it's it's mental. Yeah, it's a mental thing
that Okay, you just threw a pick six. Now the
defense gotta come back, or that we come back on
the field, and it's a mental thing. If you go
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down there and you score on the first drive, now
they have to play from behind. And it's mental and
that's what it just it drove me crazy to see
two straight pass and he gets passed. Happy, Well, you
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have an opportunity to just run the football.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I hear you, all right, I get it. Thanks for
the call.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
And and that that was huge, you know, that was
a huge way start to the game. Again, they did
overcome that the game was lost to me one play,
one play in the second quarter. It ended everything and
that you can maybe argue two plays in a span
of about three and a half minutes.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
But the game's tied seven to seven.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
The Eagles have not done anything haven't gotten a first down,
and this is their third possession and it's second and
five at their own twenty four and Leah Foul comes
in and knocks the ball away or it was a
weird looking play, but he basically knocked the ball out
of Pickett's hand.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Barkley had it.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
He got tackled for another yard loss and it was
like an eleven yard loss. It's about to be third
and sixteen from the thirteen yard line. Third and sixteen.
That that smells like draw play to Barkley or dump
off or whatever and then punt. So but Andrew Booth,
who who had a game for the Eagles, but he
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he that was one of his first plays there in
legal contact. He just had a rough day. I mean,
like that's that's just putting it nicely. And they picked
on him. They picked on him all day long. And
the Cowboys left him out there. They didn't have a
lot of options, and the Eagles, i mean, really was
third down. Everyone in the press box is saying it
third and eight here on the Eagles. Third and eight,
and they're like, where's Booth. They're gonna find him. Davante Smith,
you know, he looks like he's a guy that's gonna
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win the Heisman, in which he did. But I mean, seriously,
it was it was it was a rough day for
him and he's had a rough season. They you know,
they traded for him. He's a second round pick. But
you know, they just they had to keep playing.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
They have to.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
They don't have a lot of options at corner, and
that wasn't the best one, but that that was the
game to me. They gave them the automatic first down.
They still had a third and eight where I think
there was another thirty four yard catch. Well, guy makes
a one handed catch and then they score, and then
it's fourteen to seven, and then that kind of changed everything.
Ferguson fumbles on the next play. But but if you
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you know, if you can get that stop there and
don't get an illegal contact penalty, you know, that's that was.
That was That's frustrating guy. Basically what I just said,
you know that that deep pass to Cooks, I mean,
they were, they were, they were hitting the whole game
like that, so that particular play was against what they
normally were calling.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
That whole game.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
All right, let's go to Travis and san Antonio. Travis,
what's up, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Nick?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Hey, har are you pretty good?
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Not so great yesterday?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But it is what it is, yeap, and it's not good.
Speaker 8 (17:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (17:50):
I just wanted to hit two things real quick and
then I'll hop off and seots thing. But the first
thing is I wanted to mention because it kind of
bugged me yesterday, even though it seems it was sign
count point list was I know if you already hit
on this, but the bringing in Trey Lance with two
minutes to go, like I sort of was sitting here,
like say, watching.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
The game, like what are we doing?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Like, and I know Mike Marthy said, like what I
wanted to bring him in theossession before that, but at
like ten minutes ago, when it was forty one to seven,
I was like, hey, this is Trey Lance times and
they didn't bring him in. I was like, then we
brought up with two minutes ago, I'm like, what What's
I mean? That just didn't make any sense to me.
So I'm just curious what you thought of it. It just
seemed weird, like you probably could have just brought Cooper
out to throw one more pass and a run and
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just finish out that game.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
But neither here nor there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
So that's that.
Speaker 11 (18:33):
And then the other thing we were talking about in
one of the spaces the other day, Nick and I
know you guys kind of hited something like this before,
but we were talking about the possibility that let's just
say Mike comes back and you know, the combination of
them being tied to the hip like him and Zimmer,
and I thought, you know, I don't I don't necessarily
believe that because I think Jerry has more invested in
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Mike McCarthy than he does Zimmer at this point. And
the idea was, like I thought, because you know, I
went outside the box guy. But I thought about it
for a second and I thought, you know, after his comments,
Zimmer's comments about you know, this year has been hard,
I take that with him to kind of kind of
to heart, because I don't think he's a cryptic messenger
(19:16):
type of guy, Like he's not passive aggress so if
he just tells you how it is, And I just wonder,
you know, he came into this year thinking, like, you know,
I'll go be a DC and this is a twelve
and five team, and hey, we'll take a shot out
and see what happens. But then I think Nick you
get into the season and these coaches put in all
long hours and he is sixty eight, I think, but
like maybe he's sitting there thinking like, man, I forgot
(19:36):
about you know, all this type of stuff that I
gotta do and it is hard, and you know, maybe
going back to being a grandpa would be a little
better than doing this. And I started thinking, like, they
they kept al Harris around for a reason, right, They
gave him that elvaated associate, he coach position to keep
him when they probably like he was probably gonna leave.
So I wondered, did they bring him in Zimber, I mean,
(19:58):
did they bring him in to sort of trans from
this defense over from what dan Quinn had implement the defense?
And my thought was, they don't just keep a guy
around that for no reason. Why to see potential? So
should there be a situation Nick where they sort of
if he decides to step step away and go back
to be retired, to he hand us off to Al Harris? Right,
that's what I see what you thought?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, that's a that's a that's a tough one. There's
a lot of things going on there. Try to word
this the right way because there's a there's a dynamic
there and that defensive side of the ball that it's
been tough. Okay, it's been it's been a tough year
and it's not just the injuries. So I don't I
(20:43):
really can't say a lot what I want to say there.
There's gonna be some changes on defense. I don't know
exactly what that means as far as does it does
it mean zimmer is al Harris?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
I really don't know, but but I know that there
will be some changes. Now, let's don't get too far
into the weeds of when the guy says it's been hard,
I mean, like, does that mean he's done with it?
It was just too hard for him to coach? I mean,
he's as tough as they get, so, but I mean,
or is he just referring to the fact that, you know,
when he takes the job, he's like, what do we have?
Speaker 7 (21:18):
What?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
We have Parsons and we have Tank. They both went
to the Pro Bowl last year. We got a guy
named Sam Williams who's going to be a really good
pass rusher. That's three guys right there, and we drafted
Marshawn Nelam. That's another guy right there. We got Digs
in plans, Diggs coming back, Bland, They then make the
safeties a lot better, and watch out for this overshown
guy like like and Kendricks. Yeah, Kendricks. I mean this
(21:40):
is you know, you brought him in, so that's what
we have. Oh okay, Well, how many of those guys
played the whole season? I I don't think any of
them right. Of all the guys I just mentioned, Kendricks
has missed two games over shown every guy that I
just mentioned there, Bland and Diggs they both missed like
half the season, and your linebackers, and you got Kendricks
(22:02):
has been in and now he's been pretty good, but
he's missed a couple. Overshown has missed you know, he's
gonna miss five or six games now probably, And then
you know, Sam Williams never even got to a preseason game,
and then Tank Tank played three games and Mike has
missed five. So you know that's maybe what he's being
when when when it's hard, it's like, oh, we're gonna
sign this guy. I can't pronounce his name. I think
(22:23):
it's over and he's gonna play tonight and he's gonna
make this way and then he's gonna beat hindured and
he's coming back and he's gonna play again, and we're
gonna have Carl Lawson and we're gonna have all these
guys at booth. And just just maybe that's the part
that he meant about being hard.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
All Right, let's go to one caller here before we
take a break. Robbie Coco Beach, Florida.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
What's up today?
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Good?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
I'm good.
Speaker 12 (22:46):
The game turned out kind of how I expected. I mean,
there were some really good things in the beginning, like
you were talking about earlier, except for the interception. I
wonder what happens if we don't sw that takes there? Yeah,
I mean we get two scorers right off the bat
and then shut him down. That next time was three
and out. That it's been great.
Speaker 8 (23:04):
It didn't happen.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
We still play good.
Speaker 12 (23:07):
Yeah, guy, I wish you could say more about what
your feelings are about the defense.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
I just I just think there's gonna be some changes.
I don't think the dynamics of it were great, you know,
And and and that's that's usually what happens when you
have a guy. I mean, it's just you have a
guy that was that was there and in line and
you know, maybe you know he has a chance to
be the DC, and then you make him the assistant
head coach.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
And I just I don't see all of those guys.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Coming back the same and the same role, the same
role of Zimmer and Harris and then McCarthy that those
three I don't see all that kind of working itself out.
But again, the main thing was that was for defense
was just the lack of continuity with all those injuries.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
The defense wasn't bad.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
We we you can say when the defense when they
had most of their guys, including Micah, they've been pretty good.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
They've been pretty good.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Yeah, they've been solid. I'll say it again. I've said
all year. I know Rob doesn't always agree with me,
and then he does and then he doesn't. But Captain,
my captain, I disagree. I think Mike McCarthy needs to
come back. I like him, and continuity breaths consistency.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Right, Yeah, well, I mean you would you would hope so,
you know, but still comes back or not. I still
think that they need to have some kind of changes there.
The offense change some tweaks too, So you know he
can come. I think he's going to be able to
come back. But I think that they're going to have
to make some kind of changes on the on the
offense and may see a different coordinator maybe, yeah, maybe
(24:33):
a new play caller because you know there there has
been some sometimes there. Now if he's you know, willing
to do that, I mean that's how he That's how
he got the job.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You know, he got the job.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And I don't think he loved the idea of Kellen
Moore being here and calling the plays, but I mean
they don't. Well, they led the league in yards and
and and points I think for those two years.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So you know, it worked. It works. You get a
guy that he likes and trust and it could work.
Speaker 12 (24:59):
So and you know what else I'd like to see
I've said a couple of times, but boy, I think
Michael Parsons would shine in the three four. Yeah, And
I don't know if Al Harris says any knowledge of that.
If it does, that's what I'd like to see. I
know it take a year or two before we got
all the pieces, but a man, I'll talk about three
to four off the air if you want to or
take a break.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Thanks, thanks Robbie the producer is letting me know what
to do.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I do need to take a break, but uh, three four,
you know it, it does take a little bit of time.
The Cowboys got fortunate when they were trying to do
it in two thousand and five and they just had
a great draft that fell perfectly for them. They were
able to get some guys and get some pieces and
and made that switch with Zimmer. Now Zimmer was the
was the coordinator. He switched as well. He was four
to three guy. He switched to three four with with
(25:46):
Parcels and so they they've they've made that work. But yeah,
you need some different defensive tackles for that. You need
some linebackers, you know. To say that Micah and Sam
Williams could could do that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I think I think it could. I mean I think
they could. They could.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
They could maybe switch to three four, But they're going
to have to get some pieces in place there. And
I don't know exactly where Overshown would fit into that,
especially with the injury now, but I'm not sure his
best position in that in the three fourth scheme. Then again,
it's going to be hard for him to get back
at the start of the season. But again, I'm not
going to count them out. Let's go to break here
on Cowboy storyline. Be right back after this.
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Speaker 1 (27:57):
It's the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Story Hue, welcome back Cowboys storyline.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Let's go straight to the phone lines. We got Chuck d.
He's been holding a little bit. Chuck D Bridge shady Texas.
What's up?
Speaker 15 (28:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (28:12):
How are you right?
Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (28:17):
One thing I noticed about the game and will pass
two games, is we cannot get a good pass to Mingo.
That poor guy he can.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
He does not get the ball thrown to him at all.
Like there was one play right to his chest. He
caught it, but everything else. It's low, it's high, it's
to the side. I mean, I I he's probably like,
what in the world do I have to do now
that deep ball?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
I'm not one hundred but I don't really know.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
I'm not one hundred percent sure that he turned the
wrong way or or what. But he had him, I
mean had it was a great stop and go. That's
exactly the type of player, of the type of move
that you wanted to see out of him. You know, big,
strong guy with speed, and he showed it there. But
then the pass was was off or he didn't turn
the right way.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm not sure, But.
Speaker 15 (29:07):
Who is this that you don't really see him and
he's big, and then I'm like, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
He's he's got you know, he's got the size and speed.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And all that.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
I mean, he is a freak. But you know, there's
there's some things that got to be cleaned up. And
it's not just the ball that not thrown there. I'm
sure he's got to you know, he could be better
with the routes and all that kind of stuff. I
He's one that if if Dak's got the backyard, you know,
the dackyard is open. For business. Mingo's got to be
right there, you know. When we've seen these guys that
(29:43):
do it. We've seen Cedric Wilson spend all summer there
and he had a really good season. We saw Jalen
Tolbert do it. Tolbert's had a good season here, I
mean it's been solid. He's catching touchdowns. But Mingo needs
to be there, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:57):
No doubt.
Speaker 15 (29:59):
And U hey, I've seen him. I don't know if
you've seen this video, but Eagles fan giving Jerry a
hard time and one of the shots he's like looking
at on the field and the fans are turning around.
Let them have it?
Speaker 7 (30:11):
Uh man? Is that it always is?
Speaker 15 (30:14):
That they're sitting in the glass boof like that and
the fans can just see them.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I didn't see it, but was it classless?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 15 (30:26):
It just fits like a clear glass and they're like
right up against it and the fans that right underneath
it are just turning around looking at them, and yeah,
pretty sure shooting on the finger and just let them
have it. I'm like, geez, they gotta do everything.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah yeah, that's every time. I mean that's yeah, that's
every time, every place, every every inch of that stadium
inside outside. Yeah, I mean that's just that's part for
the course right there at Philadelphia. You know, there's no
other place where they just chant, you know, Dallas sucks,
Cowboys suck. No other place that they do that. You
you'll get some, you'll get them flying fingers every now
(31:03):
and again, you know when when you're when you're driving it.
But it's very consistent there. That's the that's the way
that it is. Hey, they have a great football team.
They're passionate, you know, good for them. But i mean,
let's not you know, when when you're when you're talking
about class, you know, and things like that. I mean,
they're still looking for the C in the l They
always have been. So that's this kind of the way
(31:23):
it is in Philly. All right, let's go to Champ
in Nebraska.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Champ, what's up, Hey, May, good morning.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
How are you.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
I'm doing well? I guess not a victory Monday, but hey,
I'm alive.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Far from it actually, and not not really any anything
close to that as far as I'm sorry, as far
as the victory Monday, Yes you're alive, yes, yeah, of course.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
All right, do you have a couple of quss I. Lastly,
when I called, I talked to you about McCarthy and
his job status, how I felt like listening to him
on one on five one through the fan, he shouted
a little more up me, didn't sound like he was
coaching for his job, and during the game I kind
of felt like he's not coaching for his job. Kids.
Just it felt different than it had the last few weeks.
(32:14):
Some of the calls he was making, I know you
and another one of the callers talked about that calling
or whatnot. So I just felt like, I'm secure, I'm good,
I know I've been told I'm coming back. I'm okay,
let's just do this, which led to some remarks I
don't know. I'm sure you probably heard that Turpin made
(32:36):
about not opening the offense up, saying, you know, we
were told that we didn't have CD, we'd be throwing
the ball down field and whatnot, and that never really happened.
He didn't seem real happy with the way the offense
was called. I don't know why they didn't give him
some of those chances. Maybe they just didn't have the time.
(32:56):
I don't know. He didn't seem happy. The other thing
was yeah, right, it was after the game. It was
some of the comments he made, Yeah, about the often,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I didn't hear all that. I don't know what he
has to be unhappy about. But that again I didn't
hear it. I didn't hear it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
They threw the ball down the field.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
You know, they threw the ball down the field of
Mingo and he didn't right run the right way or the.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Past wasn't right right.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
They threw it deep to Cooked early in the game.
We talked about that. It didn't make I mean, I
think they tried to throw the ball down the field
at at times. You know, there was a time where
he threw it underneath the Ferguson. He should have thrown
it to Tolbert down by the eagle sideline. He dumped
it off to Ferguson and Ferguson got stripped and fumbled
and that changed the game big time. But you know,
(33:44):
I don't know about not opening it up. And again
I did not hear what Turpin said.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Maybe he just thought he was going to get more
shots than from his comments.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Maybe. I mean.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
The other thing was it you happen to watch the
video that of the Jerry was kind of getting her
ass by the Philadelphia fans.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
You know, I need to This is the second time
it's been brought up in a row second caller, but
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I don't see. Well, then I'm going to give you
my opinion on it. You know, we're critical of Jerry,
all of us as fans. We talk about it and
we get mad at him. We wanted to do this
and we do that. But I was a little pissed
off watching that video. I didn't see much fun in
it from them. They were kind of mocking him, and
(34:30):
at one point they went to take a picture and
the guy says, don't touch me, and it just, you know,
I feel like this said big brother and little brother thing.
I can pick on my little brother as much as
I want, but don't you do it. I can talk
about my owner, but don't you do it. Especially as
a Philadelphia fan. It just really really didn't print well
(34:51):
with me the way that went. And Jerry is being Jerry,
and he's always a good guy, especially with fans visiting fans,
and he tall and he handled it Michael professional. I'll
give him that. He had every right to just walk away,
but he didn't. Give into that and I'll give him
that credit. So good for him. Yeah, you guys, and
(35:13):
get that. Don't talk to you tomorrow, do you guys?
Have a great year. Save the hear and we'll talk
to you later.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All right, appreciate it?
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Yeah again, I I we we we get on the
bus right after the game, you know, flying back and
you know, working writing articles, get home. So no, I
didn't see all that. I'm just trying to figure out
what time the game is and what day it's on.
So like, like, I'll be honest, I didn't see all
of that. Apparently it's something, and I get there. I
get that part. You know, it's easy to talk, you know,
(35:43):
about Jerry and all that. Then when someone else does,
especially an Eagle fan, you're like, what, Yeah, I totally
understand that. I didn't see it, but I know that.
You know, nobody takes criticism more or better than Jerry.
Jerry can handle it. Okay, he can handle it. He
handles it every single week, every you know, three four
times a week. He can handle that. That's kind of
(36:03):
what he is and what he's done. Again, I didn't
see it. But if it's an Eagles fan or two
or three that are you know that are being disrespectful.
I mean that just means like, oh, it must be
a day that ends with why, Like that's what it is.
I mean, that's what you expect when you go there. Again,
if you're looking for class, that's you go to school. Okay,
(36:25):
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Cowboy storyline, be right back.
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Back to Cowboys story.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Run all right back here on Cowboys storyline. We got
chance for about ten more minutes. Let's go to Robin Vegas.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's that ker How everything good?
Speaker 7 (37:55):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
How are you good?
Speaker 8 (37:56):
Good?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Uh?
Speaker 10 (37:58):
You know Ollie call earlier and he was absolutely right.
The difference between Philadelphia and Dallas is the front office.
I mean, Philly's what the Cowboys used to be. Jerry
used to be aggressive in in the draft and going
after players, and he's not anymore.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
And they are.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
And that's what that's the difference. It's it's not the quarterback.
The quarterbacks are very similar, they do it differently. It's
not the coaches. Sirianni and Mike McCaffey are just average coaches.
The differences free agencies, the differences just in that game
just look at that game alone, that the three guys
that killed you, Saquon Barkley, AJ Brown got an all
(38:44):
free agents, and and that's why we fell so far
behind these teams.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
Now.
Speaker 10 (38:50):
You know a couple of years ago, last year, and
maybe even two years ago, we were competing. Everybody kept
talking about we got to get past San Francisco, you know,
Philly in the division. Well, hell now we're behind Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota, Pirley.
I mean, we just fell so far behind. And when
(39:10):
I hear Robbie talk about Mike McCarthy or any fan,
I say to myself, why would you want Magic Mike back?
But you want to take away the play calling? And
that was the reason why he.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
Was brought here.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
That's like me hiring you to a five year contract
to be a salesman. You fail, and I make you
my receptionist. It doesn't work that way. Is there's no
reason to bring him back if you're going to take
away why he was here. He has done nothing better
than Jason Garrets and he was supposed to go further.
Speaker 5 (39:52):
What's your stance today, I mean, what is your stance
with with McCarthy now? So that did that game change
your opinion on back or what.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Do you think.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
No, my stance was I never wanted him to. My
stance was I thought Jerry was going to bring him back.
I think after yesterday, I don't think he's coming back
because Jerry can't sell this to us. He's already cut well.
His son's already come out and told us we're not
going to spend money next year. So you're not going
(40:20):
to spend money next year, and you're going to bring
back this guy. No, you can't sell that to the fence.
This coach has showed you that unless everything goes absolutely perfect,
and your quarterback is in an MVP race and your
wide receiver is top two and everything and Mike and everybody,
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and you still couldn't in a playoffs game. He doesn't
make the team better, he doesn't give you an edge
over other coaches. And sometimes he's a detriment. Like the
other callers said, second and three, you're chucked in the
ball over the yard. If it was Dak, I could
understand it. I'd be still mad, But I can say
(41:04):
Cooper Rush is not the guy to do that with.
And he's done this not only this year, he's done
it last years it's in his DNA. He will never
stick with the run. So if we're talking about drafting,
let's say Gentry GENTI, why, yeah, he wouldn't use it.
So what I'm saying is he's just not the guy
(41:25):
for the job. That's all five years has failed. He's
got one playoff win in five years, and now you've
got to rebuild the team. And I don't think if
you're going to rebuild a team, I wouldn't rebuild a
team with him, bringing a young guy, or bringing a
guy that maybe different style, like a Mike Rabel. He's
(41:46):
a different style, and go get a young OC or
go after Ben Johnson because he proves that he could
really run an offense. But I just don't understand bring
him back Magic Mike and saying we're gonna take this away.
We're gonna take this away, we're gonna change your coaches out.
But you get to live, you get to stay. No, No,
(42:08):
that's not right. He should go down with the ship.
He's had five years. And like I said, I think
yesterday was so embarrassing that I just don't think. And
you know, and listen, you know, Jerry Jones, it's about marketing.
It's about looking towards the streets. He he hears the
fans he's you know, they always say they don't, but
(42:28):
they do.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
And I just don't think.
Speaker 10 (42:29):
You could sell that to us when you already basically
threw a black ut over the next.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Let's be honest, does Jerry have to sell it to you?
Like like, I know you say that, but disease.
Speaker 10 (42:42):
I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you, Nick, yes,
because I shut that game off at halftime. And I've
done that more this year than fifty years of being
a Cowboy fan, no joke. This has been the worst
year to watch the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
Did you.
Speaker 10 (42:59):
Tell I did not?
Speaker 7 (43:00):
Did not?
Speaker 10 (43:00):
Okay, I had no idea what happened after halftime.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
So that had nothing to do with twenty four to seven.
You just I mean that that, you know, you shut
it off because it was two four seven.
Speaker 10 (43:10):
It had to do with the but it also had
to do with the product on the field, it had
to do with It's just it's boring, okay, all right,
Mike McCarthy is boring.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Well that yeah, that's that's all. That's not gonna change. Like,
that's not gonna change.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Rob.
Speaker 5 (43:25):
I appreciate it. We got to take one more caller.
Thank you, and call back tomorrow if you can. We
do have a show tomorrow. And I and I when
I say that, I'm not trying to be disrespectful to
you guys, to to the fans, like your opinion doesn't
matter and all that, but the whole selling it, you know,
he's gonna they're gonna spin it the way they've always
(43:46):
you know, spun it, and and and he's looking for
for continuity, and he's and he's you know, he doesn't
necessarily want to change if that's what they do again,
I don't know if if they're making a change or not.
I think it's still it's still on the table and
anything is possible at this point. Let's go to one
more call here. Richard is in California.
Speaker 9 (44:02):
Richard, good morning, How are you good?
Speaker 7 (44:05):
How are you doing well?
Speaker 9 (44:07):
If I'm honest, I'm struggling. I've been a Cowboys fan
since nineteen seventy eight. I live here in Ventura, California,
probably five miles from training camp Nice and I have
two questions for you, one about yesterday's game and one
about the long term picture for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
Can I stop you real quick, because this is your
first time call.
Speaker 9 (44:28):
It is my first time call, time listener.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Here we go, all right, got to get that in.
Speaker 9 (44:33):
All right, no, no, no problem, thank.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
You, let's go. Here we go.
Speaker 9 (44:37):
I'm interested in your perspective on the third and one
call yesterday where they threw it like forty five yards
down the field for an incomplete house.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
So funny, so funny you brought this up because I
actually am looking at that like as another play that
should be mentioned because they called time out beforehand. You're
talking about in the second quarter they had one.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Seven, they called time out.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
And then to talk about it, that looked like a
two play. It looks like you're going to go for
it here because you're on your own forty one, you're
probably going to go for it if you call time
out third one and then they throw it deep to Mingo.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
Yeah, I just I didn't understand that. And then my
second question for you is we've got a head coach
and a defensive coordinator who's heyday was in the nineties.
Their heyday was in the nineties. We haven't won in
three decades. Mike McCarthy. If we look at his five
year record with the Cowboys. If you take the three
years dan quinn was on the team out of the equation,
(45:30):
he's thirteen and nineteen, probably going to be thirteen and twenty.
I don't understand why we would keep him other than
Jerry being stubborn.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
What's the record thirteen in twenty for what?
Speaker 9 (45:41):
For Mike McCarthy in the two years he had did
not have dan Quinn as a coordinator. I think dan
Quinn really developed the culture in that organization. I don't
think Mike has. And if you look at the first year,
in the last year that McCarthy coached without Quinn, he's
thirteen and nineteen, probably gonna end up thirteen and twenty.
Why would you keep him unless it's just because Jerry
stubborn and he wants to try to prove that he's right.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
I'm not one hundred percent with you on the fact
that it's it's dan Quinn, you know, just just dan
Quinn alone, like that was the reason. But you know
that's that's that's fair. And and and you said the nineties,
are you talking about Zimmer? You're not talking about McCarthy.
Speaker 9 (46:24):
Jimmer, Jimmer and McCarthy there Haydi was in the nineties.
The game has evolved so much in the last twenty
five years, thirty years, and we don't seem to want
to bring in a young, innovative, creative mind. Yeah, all
the teams that seem to be winning, with the exception
of the Chiefs, who have the best quarterback in the game.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not going to argue with
you on that.
Speaker 5 (46:44):
I mean, like you're you're you're eleven years ago is
still a long time ago. So let's just let's say that.
Let's say it called the nineties, but you know, it
was twenty eleven. I mean, he actually won the Super
Bowl at AT and T Stadium, so it's not like
it was the you know, there was that long go
But it's been a while. If you want to make
that argument, that's fine. It's it's been what thirteen years
(47:05):
or so. But yeah, again, like the team's last three
years were good teams, good to great.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
That's what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 5 (47:18):
Come in here, and they had a good they had
a good run, but they got to win in the
playoffs and they did not. They did not win in
the playoffs this year. They probably weren't headed there even
without the injuries, they probably weren't. So I just can't
get past the Saints game. The Saints game, I can't
get past it. Yes, they played better, but they had
(47:40):
all the guys there, and they got smashed by a
team that ended up being bad. So they're gonna pick.
They're gonna pick before you pick. And so you got
beat by a Saints team at home, and that was
just kind of that just started this whole thing. And
so yes, you could say the and the injuries did matter.
There's no doubt about it. You cannot lose that many
players to injuries. That's what they were counting on. They
(48:03):
were counting on all these guys. I mean, Jerry said,
he went the first press conference of augst already said
we've got fourteen Pro Bowl players that had been to
the Pro Bowl. We had ten last year. Fourteen guys
that we have a really good roster. And of those
fourteen players, I think eleven of them have missed multiple
games this year and a six or seven of them
(48:23):
have been on injured reserve. So that's that's just in
this era, that's just too hard to overcome. Now, that
probably prevented them from from you know, making a push
here in the last couple weeks to make it to
the playoffs, but that Saints game showed you there were problems.
There were problems that had nothing to do with injuries.
(48:45):
So I think I think it's a little bit of both.
It's not just one thing or another. It's a little
bit of both. Guys, great great show today, great call,
great calls. We're going to talk about it tomorrow. We'll
be here tomorrow and then we'll come back on Thursday.
So we'll not be here on New Year's Day, just
the same as schedules last week for Christmas. We'll go
four times this week and we'll be back tomorrow. So
(49:05):
we'll for Chris be I'm Nick Eatman see tomorrow on
Cowboy Storyline.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
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