December 11, 2024 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Hum day media mash in the house with all the
regulars that you know and loves. Jacques Taylor his Ohio
State Buckeys are in the College Football Playoff. Baby, we
got Joe Hoyt his Oregon Ducks Big Ten champions in
the College Football Player and Clarence Hill University of Texas
his own in the College Football Player.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm usc.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
TCU's own rooting for rooting for everyone to win.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
You're a Carolina guy. You're a Carolina guy.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
You your chapter, your got to part is part of
the program.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You brother got different teams.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So how do you feel you and how do you.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Feel about Bill Belichick going North Carolina?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bill Belichick, this is great that Lawrence Taylor is going
to be able to come back and shoot them kids.
How the party joint Bill Road and get the kids
all out to the.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Keen and y hey man, you got to get to him, man, man, have.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You've seen you've seen the stands lately. I mean they
need to get the kids back back.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
They left after they kids that come from the winning
kids come.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Kids today in college football are no different than NFL
free agency. They go where that check is so they
break the bank. He'll get some players.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How did how did he win without time? Brady?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Here's what's he interesting about that? I mean, yes, I
understand what you're saying. Uh, it's bigger than Brady. But
the man went with Brady and won six of them,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
How many they win.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
In Indianapolis with Peyton Mann and coach. I mean, it's
it's it's it's.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I said saying about mc brown. Mcbrown's great coach, but
he didn't win. Vis Young showed up. That don't mean
he won a great coach, but but I'm just saying
that sometimes great players put you over the top.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's the marriage of great players, right and great coaches,
because there have been great players who ain't wast nothing
because they coaching.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Because at some point you think it's about you and
it's not about that great player, about your system and
in the Patriot way, and it really wasn't about the
Patrio Way.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It was about Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And you're gonna try to bring the Patriot Way to
North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Give and giving Belichick no credit.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
He gets credit. What's credit for he built the defense?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You know, you know certainly they're prepared, boy said to
take him over the top because Bill Belichick ain't going
there to just and and really it's not even aout Belichick.
Let's let's break it for circles. It's localized it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's about the cowboy's not getting Belichick.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yes, you know, because that was the thought process in
people's mind because every time Jerry talks about Bill Belichick,
he talked glowingly, glowingly friend, he would love to work
with him on a glowingly He's you know, certainly done
the competition committee with him gloringly. And now if he
makes a move with Mike McCarthy, Bill Belichick is no
longer an option.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Let me ask you something. If the cowboy is his
signe Belichick does that me and his son was gonna
be a guaranteed head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Now that's two different conversations.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You do that, you do that in college and no
coach you're waiting in the pro now other than Jason Garrett.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So that was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I talked about on the Players Lounge. Yeah, like why
would you, like, why.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Would you set up your child who right now, all
you know, all of us who have no offense, all
of us who have children outside of Joe, if you
could take a job and set your child that with
a multimillion dollar.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Job, you're gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yes, And we know if your child would listen, he's listening.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
You got the patriot.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's got a patrio from the time I worked in
Cleveland when he was when he was a young boy,
he live, he idolized his So you get that opportunity,
and I believe that's a better job for him than
most NFL jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's kind of like talking about Belichick, wasn't getting the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
See Belichick, wasn't you no head coaching college? I'm talking
about for Bill Bill.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Well, there's a thought process that Bill wants to break
down down shooters record. I mean, people that know him
personally closely knows he wants that record. And you know,
going to college is not getting close to that record record.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Setting up my child. What you gonna shoot.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Ain't gonna write a check for it. I mean child
is set up. Let's be honest. It's not his child
is not destitute.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Money. It's child is set up.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The money.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Child is set up already. You know he got he's
in the will. He's set up.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
But is he getting a coaching job on his own
merits to your point, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And he's still not getting one. He's still not getting one.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Down in waiting. If they put it in content, that's
not you said, you're still.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know, his child is set up, period, But his
child wants to be a coach. So that's why he
was in Washington.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The decent in Washington. They were really good this year, fantastic,
you know, was Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Kid too this year?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And nepotism.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But but again we're localizing it with him out to mix.
If they do make a move on Mike, Uh, who's
the best options?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You're not getting Ben Jon hadn't.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Told you Keller Moore coming back. You can breathe heavy
if you want to.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I know him.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Look at it like what he did. He ran the
ball this year. Look at the Eagles they in.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The chest made it don't matter.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He's comfortable. We know him. He's grown, Dak loves it,
kelling more your next day it coach down.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You could sell that the change that they had in Philly.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You could tell him, can't you can't bring that running
back with him, because I mean, that's that's a big
part of the success.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Before you draft, What do.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You always tell why are you trying to use logic
and logic?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm just asking, so, I mean we're throwing names out there.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I'm just I'm just saying he leading the clubhouse, Mike Rabel.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I mean, to your point, Troy Aikman said, you know what,
are the candidates out there would have a better resumes
Bill Belichick than Mike McCarthy. And now that guy's gone, and.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
His guys that you can get, like Ben Johnson be fantastic.
He can't come in here, but he's not.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yeah, do you see his criteria that he listened out?
That's that doesn't fit.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Dallas, right.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
So who can you get back to what you said
before about how Limbek and Lena not gonna be an
option here.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When you spoke about Jerry and his fondness for Bill Belichick.
If Jerry had all the fondness in the world, his
opportunity was last year he could have gotten Bill Belichick,
but he decided not to. And this is now the
second time where Jerry's had an opportunity with Bill and
he's passed on it. So you can like a guy
all day long, but when it came time to pull
the trigger, if you wanted him, you to done it.
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We've seen other people who have like, hey, we've seen
this happen in sports where owners wanted a guy, they
went and got him.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well. Bill Belichick ain't coming cheap either.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you either want them you don't want, or I know,
but you want to hit it nickas Sam, So you
don't want.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Just knowing Jerry.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I know people think Jerry's ruthless, but Jerry don't
just fire people intimately. And certainly he's not just going
to He's going to have a heart for Mike and
how he does it whether you like it or not,
whether you think it's right or not. And you know
there are people who stayed on staff who were fired
who never left the building around if you talk to
people around here, I mean, he just don't usher people
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out the door.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now, he did a job, seriously job, so.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I hear what you're saying about as fond as he
does it. But he likes Mike too. I mean, it
doesn't mean he doesn't like Mike. And he he was
going to give Michael chance, although he didn't really give
me a chance. They give nothing worked with come to
this last year, but he was not ready to move
on for Mic and you and you moved to Bill.
It's a whole lot of conversations. I look, how you
run the franchise, how much you pay Bill a come
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and part of that for the page was pay scales
and Bill a coming for cheat. So some I'm just
saying that the notion that he had a chance, he
didn't do it, it's it's it's more layers to it
than that.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's just not as simple as that to you.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You can break it down any more context but you
just did. But but over the bottom line is he
did have a choice. You had an opportunity if you
wanted to do this, it was available for you there.
He decided not to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
He got that yacht. He can afford Bill if you
want to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
If you want right, I'll say this because I was
in Los Angeles after they got rid of Dell Harris
and made Kurt Rambason interim and everybody like Bus is
not paying any money. He won't even paid. Jerry West,
the man won't pay. And next thing we know, Phil
Jackson walked in there. And then for the one availability
that we had with Jerry Buss, Like, what happened? You
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guys said I wasn't paying. You never heard let me
say that. I'm sorry. We just looked at historic. Jerry
told us you back, but you know, so who knows.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But he didn't do it. He didn't do it. So
there you go.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But all of this said two times at least I
thought Jason Garrett was gone and he lived. Maybe Mike
McCarthy lives. You just you just see another player get
hurt over shown is out hurt. I mean the ability
to say, Jerry, you didn't give me a whole lot.
There's a lot of groceries out here. I had to
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make gulash. It didn't taste good.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
What did does that get you? Does that get your
two year deal?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And that's the thing, because I think, yeah, one year,
two years, I.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Mean no, you can't do it. Three year though to
pairing with DAK for the rest of their contracts.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You can make a deal anytime you want to put
out so I mean you do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I mean, it's kindact, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
The thing about Mike and going forward is, yes, Jared
said him, a failure with not improving the roster. Yes, Uh,
they have had a lot of injuries, but yes, play calling,
bone headed mistakes, penalties. Uh, they've been on worse NY
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mid time, just like someday, I mean monthy. Excuse me,
you know what is the what is the difference back
door on touching the ball?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Hates just turned around?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So out there who that's coaching until you go fire
bones fossil? Okay, Well, I mean if the coach goes,
the staff is gone.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You could bring the coach back and replace the special
teams coach.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But it's more than just I mean there's been bone
had players with legal mo.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I mean, there's there's there's there's communications, there's a lot
of things that that that that you get point they're
not a well coached team this year. You can point
to a lot of mistakes you know that that go
straight to the top and who's the account of everything
on the football fields.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
They head coach. So I mean all of that's part
of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Okay, so let's just put it this one go round
the table right here, right now.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Three eleven. From what you.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Understand and know about Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, a courting
to Clarence Hill, most trusted.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He coaching his team next year.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I don't think so, Joe, he coaching this team next year.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I don't know if Jerry wants to do another coaching search,
especially trying to get up in custody. Yes and no,
Yes he's there.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Mike McCarthy's here. No Kelling Morris and next head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm not doing that. I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
That's why I said, yes, is that much?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
If you don't if you don't give him extention that
twelve and five, five, twelve and five as seven and
ten or whatever they gonna finish you with, I just
don't know how you can do that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
See, that's the logical point right there. So the Cowboys
are you trying to put logical situation?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
By the way, the Cowboys are a three point underdog
against the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, and then we move on. I mean there's something
we can talk about the next segment.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I mean, the Cowboys at a point want to the
next four games, which they'd never been in Mike mcrtzon,
never been in it playing games with nothing to play for.
M I mean this team, largely young team, they've been
in contentent last three years.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Okay, they don't know what it's like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And then we give them credit for competing when they
were still had hope even whether you whether you thought
they had hope or not, they felt they had hope.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
His first year here, well on that though.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Generally this team, these young guys who've been over the
last three year, a lot of people first year not
here except you know, but the older guys. But they
have not been in a situation where had nothing to
play for.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So ither thing what happens is and because I think
Carolina beats him this week, and that's because it's not
that they'll quit. They'll go out there and compete, but
they're focused during the week. Won't be as sharp, their practice,
which has already been shady this year, won't be as sharp,
their own individual preparation won't be as much because they
feeling sorry for themselves. And so when you get out
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on the field, it's not that you quit, it's that
your preparation. Was it the norm and it gets exposed
against somebody a team that's playing for like Bryce is like, hey,
I had a couple of good games in the last month.
Let me try to finish strong. Carolina trying to finish strong,
whereas the Cowboy was just playing out the stream.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Right to your point too, I mean that locker room
was and Mike McCarthy said it was one of the
most devastated, just sad locker rooms that I've ever seen.
Was that postgame locker room. We were in locker room
earlier today was not a happy place. Still clearly that honestly,
the depression from that game is still lingering. So when
you're to your point, I mean that Carolina team has
played really tough the last few weeks. They're fighting for something.
Dave can Allis has got them going. Can Mike McCarthy
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reinstall that fight going into this one?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And that's something Mike said after the game, is that
they put a lot into this game.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
They just what was up.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
They put a lot into this game.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And he said they had their best week of practice,
you know, last week, and he felt our team was coming,
got their cornerbacks back. I felt our team was together
and they put a lot into beating Cincinnati, and it
was right there for and they got snatched by their
own doing. We got snatched away, And so the energy
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going forward won't be the same as it was the
last couple of weeks because they fucked that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
They were believing their own stuff. They will.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
We're gonna make a run and we're gonna finish up
strong and we're gonna we got this right there for him.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And now.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Nothing is saving them from the nightmare of a season.
There was a nightmare from our set. The reality of
that is sober and reality that nothing is gonna save
them from this nightmare of season.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
All right, when we come back, Clarence wants to go
and talk about the Carolina Pants is in fact the
Cowboys and Underdogs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We'll do that next with you Chaquelle, Joe Hooy Clance Hill, is.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That what I want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You said it? He said it, kay, and so asked
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media bruck well being the one without a baseball cap
on the day.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You don't wear you don't never wear hats on the
While we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Jacques Taylor Aaron Rodgers on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
When you don't.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You don't wear baseball. She's not baseball. I've been knowing
a long time.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You're not a baseball head guy.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, real quick, how many baseball caps do I have
my trunk in my car?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I don't know, but i't on your head.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Three.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
That's damn good. I don't see a lot of him
on your head.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
That's because I wouldn't want to go hacking.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Okay once a week. Again, you don't wear them a lot,
That is my point.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I just asked question.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It sounded like Aaron Rodgers and down. I hate when
people go on his pin and making them rock themselves
on his own ears spin showed us about himself.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Be interesting to see where he's playing next year. He
won't be the Jets will not be in New York.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I like this, would you like to see him play?
I'd like to see him in Tennessee. Oh, Frank Carthorn
is gonna sign up for that.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Now, My got Cali. Now my Callahan's gonna get your
guy he might over see. In high school, what yeah,
Brian Callahan was my offensive qording and my freshman year told.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Me that at breaking your own news, I thought you
just liking the guy because he was, you know, on
the Shanahan system and all, you know, like all these
you know, young coaches that get all he's.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Not under the Shanahans well tangentially maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Anyways, I'm sorry, I got it up.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Man coached by Brian Callahan.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You go, how often would the Bill Shore did he
come around?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
And all the time I think once, yeah, yeah, But
this was he was a freshman. I was see at
the time. He just got out of U c l A. So,
I mean, as.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Jared Jones said a long time ago to Shanahans, mcclanahan's the.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Hockey coach, did he get you to run?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I played defense linebacker called me an a whole bunch
of times in practice because he was.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Making plays disrupted. They still yeah, Big ten champion Joe
Hoyt here in the house. We ain't got to say.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
We planned our flag.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Do you know there's a opportunity The Congress went in Ohio.
That's such a baby poop movie and its thing. Ever,
who is who wants to make flag planting a felony?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
The name of the It was like the O H
I O like Sportsmanship Act.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Come on, man, ultimate chunk move what did you come,
y'all better than that? Y'all is one dude trying to
get some votes and he just disgusting a felony. How
about you win the game? They had to worry about that.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
True, Speaking of winning games, true cow was gonna win
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The Cowboys are three point underdog.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Three point went up.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yes, ESPN has.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Been a three point underdog in Charlotte, North Carolina Bank
of America Stadium where last year Jerry Jones and Jimmy
Johnson walked on the sidelines, took over the Fox pregame
show to announce that Jimmy was going to go into
the Cowboys Ring of Honor on December thirtieth, and Jerry
he was still doing the press conferences kickoff hat. So
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then Jerry told us, remember that I got to go
call some plays and made his way on up to
the booth. Cowboys won the game. Uh, Panthers later on
fired the coach, and so he's got a new coach,
Dave Canalis, who's got Bryce Young playing well. Benched him,
brought him back, and so here you go, a team
coming off a short week, Cowboys devastating loss.
Speaker 12 (20:27):
Uh you know, so.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Carolina played Philadelphia to the buzzle list.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Should have won it, and he dropped the pass.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Here's here's since November thirties. Look at the coon eater.
I meet it when he's reccoon record. You all want
to record, you won't want it, dad.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
So since November.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
November three, Carolina beat New Orleans twenty three, twenty two,
and Dennis Allen was relieved of his duties as the
Saints head coach. Then the next week they go would
take on the Giants. They went twenty to seventeen. Then
they come hanging on I think they was waiting on Belichick,
but that's not happening. So then they in Charlotte, North
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Carolina Panthers valiantly took on Kansas City, lost thirty to
twenty seven. Then after that, last week I should say
December first, it was a overtime loss to Tampa Bay
twenty six, twenty three, and they had ample opportunity when
that one couldn't close the deal. And then last week
took on Philadelphia. They lose twenty two to sixteen. So
they have played good football. They are a three point
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favorites and Cowboys lost a heartbreaker. You know, well, it
wasn't Ao's fault according to Special Team's coach bos Fossil,
but touched the punt since Dad gets the ball back
forty yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase with a minute,
one second to go and they're falling, But it wasn't
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his fault according.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
To will You Spare Limits we phrased it. When you're
in the roster play and you play specialties, that's what
you do. You end of the roster play, you place.
You have to know the rules though, and this this
whole notion of I just turned around the ball was there.
Come on, stop it man, he made a poor play.
Try to be the hero.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And that's what he talked about today. I think in
part you can say, hey, yeah, it came up on
me quick because he was turned around and then the
ball had crazy spin on it. But by the time
he turned around him being an athlete, he had a
decision to make it a split second one sure, but
he had decision making and he decided, as he told
us today, to go for the ball. It didn't work out,
and he says, I wish I would have done it differently.
Maybe I wish I wouldn't have touched it, but at
the end of the day, that was the decision I made.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And it was a poor decision. And just owning your decision,
you know, don't don't make you cool. You don't know
value you could you own a poor decision?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, because it was. It was if you know the rules,
you don't even touch the ball is ours if you
don't do nothing and.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Just we're Jesse Hallen's on our show. He's on this
show as well, and he talks about being a sports
teams guy. And I know he said the crowd was yelling.
But if you're on the field, you hear boom you.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Here, he admitted to, you hear the block, then you
hit a tap.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I mean you hit a boot and you hit the tap,
so you know his block.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
You know, you have to know you hear the roar
of the crowd too.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You hear the word crowd, but you even amongst your
word of the crowd. But the reason why the crowds roaring, Yeah,
it wasn't because it was.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It wasn't running back if you're still block, if it's
up on you, I mean, utus put one and one together.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Well, he admitted to that that he heard the thump, thump,
and then he just turned around and there it was.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
If you heard the thump thump that he knows block.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I know, and he decided, oh wait, that's coming at me.
Do I try to jump out of the way or not,
I'm gonna go for it, which, hey, y'all know, is
the wrong decision.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He'd have had to do that on a zoom cut
because he would.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Be here, Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter, get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, he's not he's not so good that I
got to have him on my team. I'd be like,
this is the example from here going forward. You make
dumb plays around here. Uh, that cost us games. You
got to go if you are friends guy, and all
you do is specialty.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
So I'm glad he because a coach because they lied.
They lied because they said he didn't hear he heard
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yesterday they tried to say he only heard the crowd
and hed the thump.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If you heard the thump, he said.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
The first thing, he said, I heard the thumb. What
if you heard the thump, you know his block And
he said he didn't know. He said, I heard the thumb,
But he said, I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
For yet what you think is for?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, it's a punt, Yeah, stumping for a reason.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You think somebody slapped the pump upside to he Well,
at the end of the day too, we've had now
a few days to just talk about this, about like
what his thought process was.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
We had Bones Fossil yesterday questioning our saying exactly what
he thought it was. The bummer is and this is
why we as reporters go to ask these questions in
the locker room. Is he didn't want to talk and
see j Goodwin wouldn't let him talk you. And that's
what happens when you don't have the answers right after
the game. So that's why we as just for fans
out there, that's why we as reporters go to try
and talk to these guys and get answers, because we've
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had days and now to let this linger and the
kind of question how did this happen?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
We didn't get no ouse out of the game, But
you don't got an after the game. That's what I'm saying,
Jerry go you don't get after the game.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Jerry Jones got downce after Yeah, he went straight house.
I was going on, why did you call him fake punt?
Did he know the rules? Know the rules for the game.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Can't you wanted to know.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Why didn't you call him? You can't handle it.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
You can't have that out, Colonel, not white play the
fake I mean the block was at great play.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's how you get asked. He made a play. You're
looking come and make him play in a big game.
And he made a play.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And you know what happened.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And hello.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
After he admitted to the cold red, he just says,
colonel guard the he says in peace guard the colonel, what.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Am I being arrested?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Crime? You my job?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Going back to my base.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I do it again.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Cooy, I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I do it again.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And when we've come to man and I'm glad you
said and that is it's like.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
The jon Ye Thomas play, I do it again, jy
Ya Thomas admitted he ran.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
On side. Get back towards down.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Teaching coaching says, go down, okay, go down in the
locker room thirty minutes again, I do it again. That's
not correct coaching. That's not correct teaching. Okay, you're like
the like the fake punt check this out when I finished.
Didn't like the fake punt in your own territory.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, the teaching says, you call it, you activate.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Got the look he on it, so we activated. It
was a bad down a distance, just like the other day. Aoh,
and yesterday they're talking about he just trying to make
a play the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Try.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
That's the wrong decision.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It's not about your instincts, about your teaching.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's about your discipline. It's not the teaching is fine,
but situation. We was all in certain. I can't speak
for you. I can speak for the black folks in here.
It was all at a certain point where you don't
do things as a kid because you don't want to
get that. But belt the belt, the belt, the extension,
cord to brush the center whatever. Hey, everybody gone to
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glory at shooting birg.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You may have no else.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Cord switch switch might hit you with the broom, she
was sweet, might hit you with the green Did you
have to switch?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You don't come back with no band switch? Bring me
back a representative switch. And if it's all wrong, switching
was your cousin.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
People and the people got a street got with a
water hole anyway, look at that.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Why I told you don't didn't have water hoses. Please
don't want that again.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's the problem, as is all about time out. Somebody's
need their butt tap so that when you out there
you think about it. Oh, I probably shouldn't do this.
I ain't gonna be here on Tuesday and then instead there.
Oh that's okay, son, we understand mistakes happen. Don't worry,
but it's not your fuck.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It's no coach Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And make sure.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Next Cowboys coaching.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You're just wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I learned from you.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So it's too much. It's too much love on this Steff.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It needs to be some hugs and just like after
the game, why are y'all protecting him from talking to
the media.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Why are you protecting? And I like them protecting, but
you teach I mean, you're teaching.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Them about accountability and responsibility. Is nothing wrong with explaining
what happened? Dad gusts to explained what happened with those interceptions.
Every time Michael Partner has to explained what happened when
he's doing whatever, I mean, City Lamba, explaining what happened?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Why the kicker of the playing without what he missed
a kick. Why can't you explain? Why are you? But
he's not a rookie. He's not a precocious rookie. He's
been in the leg five or six years.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
If Brandon I Aubrey miss field goal at the buzzer,
he's gonna stand in front of his locker and talk
about I mishit it, I did whatever it happens.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I talked to Pat Doney yesterday and he said, how
he goes up, we.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Got a prefaces by saying it's positive, Pat Doney, it
is positive.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
He was trying to get on that Sunday night, Monday night.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So so he goes up there, CJ. He's not talking,
and he said, excuse me, I'm talking to him.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, you know, I like that.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know, if he doesn't want you, then then he
can answer for him. Tell and J's like, no, no,
we're not doing this negativity. And then Jordan Lewis got
in there and talk about the whole negativity thing, and
so and.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Then mcwameem came in and then Buddy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Them last two can't say nothing, yeah, and CJ can
barely say something. He' my boy, Jordan Lewis got a
voice but the rest of them joke his job yet.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And I asked Michae about it.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
He said, yeah, I like my guy protecting the players,
but yeah, he has to be accountable.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He's gonna talk, but yeah, you gotta be able to that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And one of my first pr staff in this endeavor,
since their job, part of their job is makes folks available,
they did today.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
They did.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Tad said after yesterday that he would be made available today.
But my issue has always been when you decide as
a player not to talk after critical things like that,
that means other people in the room have to answer
for you. And number one, that's wrong. But number two,
don't sit around here and make somebody answer for you
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till about that they were wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, no, no, no, do it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Do your job, and that's that is what And I
know the person and a profession there's people in the
room that room who feel like, well, the only time
you want to talk is something negative happened.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
That's not true. Because we had a big game, A
couple gets Pittsburgh or whatever else. They wrote big stories
about it. We've talked about it.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, no against the Giants when you game saying interception,
I mean I looked at Manni's name after the game
in the first headline season Dallas Moore and was saying,
Amani had that mama mentality after the game, and so.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
We talked to him, but he was good.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, if you won't have.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Them with mentality, Kobe, I talked to Kobe, have to
miss him three airbolls.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I talked to it.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, and Kobe, will I do it again? Just say
that it'll be better next time. But but literally that
that I do find that very hilarious. We want to
talk about mamba mentality, but we ain't doing nothing that
the mama did. Hey bro, I'm just I saw the mamba.
Saw it from Timmy got there to the one, the
first one. The dudes ain't no mama mentality. Mama took
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
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Speaker 1 (36:05):
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I have fund my children.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Here all right, Cowboys at Carolina Uh Sunday Bank of
America Stadium. Cooper Rush is going to start. Jerry Jones
is still with the Cooper Rush thing. They're a fan
right now who want two things. One they want to
get a higher draft pickcause Cowboys sitting at twelfth and two.
A lot of fans want to see Trey Lance and
say what do they have here?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, but most trusted, most trusted. What's going on? Let's
start with you first.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I mean, that's what I was trying to get early.
I mean, what are the Cowboys out to play for?
I mean they're not playing with the playoffs and in
the usual situation, unusual spot is seeing Trey Lance something
you want to play with? Jerry talk the other day.
They're going to start serving the Cooper Rush are still
trying to win games and pointing for them to win games.
But you know, are you cutting off your nose to
spike your face if you don't play for it? Pick
(37:00):
if you don't find out what you got in trade Lance,
who could possibly your back up next year? Or you
can get something in free agency, if or or comp
pick if he signed with somebody and shows something.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know, Uh, what's the what's the what's the goal?
You know, it's just an unusual spot for this team.
What's the goal going forward?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What is what does winn winning games do for you?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Because most of these guys you're talking about thirty guys
who are free agency on the last year that contract, Oh,
coding staff, What does winning games do for you as
an organization? It may do something for them, you know,
because they may be playing the way the content of
the team, But what does it do for the Cowboys too,
your focus to win game?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Other than winning games?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I want to say, I kind of And I know
he's the number three overall pick and it's got a
loo at amount of money, But I feel bad for
how Trey Lance's career has transpired because he barely played
high school football, goes to North Dakota State, has to
set plays one year, starts there, then COVID hits. Then
he comes to San Francisco, where there's just gonna no
plan for him. He barely gets any snaps. Now he's
in Dallas, plan let me hold, let me finish. The
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plane does not go well. Comes here and we saw
him in the free season. That was the most he no, no, no,
But if you man make it now, let me finish.
I feel bad for how his career transpired because I
don't think he ever had a chance. And now I
think we know exactly what we're supposed to know about
Trey Lance. There's a reason why Cooper Rush is playing.
They know what they know about Trey Lance. Why do
you think, why do you think that or else he
(38:26):
would be playing?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
See, that's what I think. Like there's been no here,
no players.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
That's that's.
Speaker 11 (38:33):
No.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
I feel bad for how career has transpired relatively to
other guy who didn't play, relative other NFL players, relative
to other NFL players, relative.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
To people in life. High school football players who started
basically a year.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Joe, Joe, don't let this know.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Your empathy can be your empathy just because man has
You don't need to.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Play one year quarterback in high school, don't throw but
three passes, gets a college scholarship, he plays one basically
one year of college football.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Look at all his game, but one year at college.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
But that's my point.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And he gets to be the third and highest pick
in the draft. Yeah, million contract, angry, angry.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
My empathy is because it's relevance and he and he
still get five million this year. Would you say Trey
Lance is talented?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
You don't think there's talent there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I don't know talent as well.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
What I'm saying, I was never given a chance.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I don't know he's talented. Do you know he's talented.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I think he's talented based on what based on his
his arm power and his ability to run, his speed.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Wouldn't it be nice to see if you could see
him play against the Carolina Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
We haven't seen him playing.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
We saw him playing.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It's about my thing is he's I mean, he's a
decent thing. He ain't jacks?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Did he improve? We saw bright Young improved? Did he improve?
Speaker 11 (39:49):
What?
Speaker 12 (39:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
What is he showing you? How they coached him up?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I mean I liked, liked, that's all they say. They
quarterback grules and they say they know how to develop
a course.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Can you see some rule? Does the gurus?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Can we see on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think they've seen it, but it was not for
you to see if they already know?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
That's what my point is, because he has never had
a chance to develop, and I think by this point
they already know who he is, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
They said they see them dirt balls and practice. They
don't want to see.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Them anything that's dirt balls Monday night?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, but so so what what what is Cooper Rush
going to do at this point in time?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know who he is? Correct?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I think we all say, you know what he is?
I think, I think after Carolina gonna throw up the hands.
That's the goal with trade. Short week, you're not going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
But why but why short week you're not going to
do all right, this is short week.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It was a night game.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
It's a short literally short, it's a short week.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Then you do it.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Then you do the baseball thing, all right, Cooper, get
on out there, and then hey, Trey, you know, get
some packages, do whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But and if this game gets away from them more
than one one play package, and.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Then you got off as a coordinator. You tap at home,
but tap it home after this, Right, But.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
You've also known the potential for Trey Lance and going
there existed for a while because Dak Prescott has been out.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
So if you on Sunday night for Mass at Mass
some that's something to sell on Sunday night, Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Don't flex them, you know, Jerry Scheming, Let's give them.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
We're gonna give them something to see, telling them want
to be today. Hey guys, don't flex us. Okay, Sunday night,
we're starting Tray Lance. He got another storyline to talk about.
You gotta talk about He was a third overall pick.
You can talk about how the store much high school?
You got all these stories. I get ready we can
go back to his hometown to these great stories. First
round pick gonna start Sunday Night boot.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
You know what that reminds me of his How he
goes on one of five to three the fan before
the trade deadline, He's like, I made a deal, I
got I got one and we're like, oh, who could
it be? Jonathan Minko for a fourth He's still here.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Mingo, come back to her baby.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
We gotta talk to Mingo this week.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Revenge game.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
He want he wanted to show people he can get
a chance up there. Yeah, he won't pop out and
show somebody, don't pop out of the show.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Man, So here we're perfect scenario sat here, first Trade,
Last Stars, Sunday Night.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
No, okay, okay, write it down, Okay, write down? When
is that Jerry Netflix special?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
The Spring? I think the Spring might be super Bowl.
We can spring. I think somewhere it's not before clearly
not during the season.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Still cutting tape, till gathering stories, talking to people, seeing
who's still okay. I just want to know and they're
ever going to get the guy who cut up his
credit cards. And he always tells the story about spring
cards because one hundred years ago, Damn van Ada probably
get him a hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
It was at it was a restaurant one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Is it true if Jerry says it?
Speaker 12 (42:46):
So?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It was one to Bill Clinton things where you know,
I said it. Great story, right, That's what I just
want to know.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I just want to know. Claire Hill, thank you very much,
thank you, thank you, good luck, good luck next week.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Rooting, appreciate it. We'll talk next We'll talk about it
next week. There will be no show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
No show tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm glad y'all told me.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Were you here. We're gonna get a chance to tell you,
k I told you, told you man, Christ's gonna tell
you elf El Half just let you.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I was about to tell you, Chris, Chris, it's about
the kids tomorrow. Who told you?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I was telling the people. I was telling them publicly.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Exactly, telling everybody and you, I was telling us. That's
most trust, that's most trusted. Like man, I'm just happy
to be on the wrestle. John Jacques Tay like Newiss
beating Mash Goodbye.
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Speaker 4 (00:57):
You're a Carolina guy. You're a Carolina guy.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
You your chapter, your got to part is part of
the program.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You brother got different teams.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So how do you feel you and how do you.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Feel about Bill Belichick going North Carolina?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Bill Belichick, this is great that Lawrence Taylor is going
to be able to come back and shoot them kids.
How the party joint Bill Road and get the kids
all out to the.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Keen and y hey man, you got to get to him, man, man, have.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
You've seen you've seen the stands lately. I mean they
need to get the kids back back.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
They left after they kids that come from the winning
kids come.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Kids today in college football are no different than NFL
free agency. They go where that check is so they
break the bank. He'll get some players.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How did how did he win without time? Brady?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Here's what's he interesting about that? I mean, yes, I
understand what you're saying. Uh, it's bigger than Brady. But
the man went with Brady and won six of them,
no doubt.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
How many they win.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
In Indianapolis with Peyton Mann and coach. I mean, it's
it's it's it's.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I said saying about mc brown. Mcbrown's great coach, but
he didn't win. Vis Young showed up. That don't mean
he won a great coach, but but I'm just saying
that sometimes great players put you over the top.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's the marriage of great players, right and great coaches,
because there have been great players who ain't wast nothing
because they coaching.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Because at some point you think it's about you and
it's not about that great player, about your system and
in the Patriot way, and it really wasn't about the
Patrio Way.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
It was about Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
And you're gonna try to bring the Patriot Way to
North Carolina.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Give and giving Belichick no credit.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
He gets credit. What's credit for he built the defense?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
You know, you know certainly they're prepared, boy said to
take him over the top because Bill Belichick ain't going
there to just and and really it's not even aout Belichick.
Let's let's break it for circles. It's localized it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's about the cowboy's not getting Belichick.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yes, you know, because that was the thought process in
people's mind because every time Jerry talks about Bill Belichick,
he talked glowingly, glowingly friend, he would love to work
with him on a glowingly He's you know, certainly done
the competition committee with him gloringly. And now if he
makes a move with Mike McCarthy, Bill Belichick is no
longer an option.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Let me ask you something. If the cowboy is his
signe Belichick does that me and his son was gonna
be a guaranteed head coach.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Now that's two different conversations.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
You do that, you do that in college and no
coach you're waiting in the pro now other than Jason Garrett.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So that was one of the things.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I talked about on the Players Lounge. Yeah, like why
would you, like, why.
Speaker 7 (03:46):
Would you set up your child who right now, all
you know, all of us who have no offense, all
of us who have children outside of Joe, if you
could take a job and set your child that with
a multimillion dollar.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Job, you're gonna do it.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yes, And we know if your child would listen, he's listening.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
You got the patriot.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
He's got a patrio from the time I worked in
Cleveland when he was when he was a young boy,
he live, he idolized his So you get that opportunity,
and I believe that's a better job for him than
most NFL jobs.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's kind of like talking about Belichick, wasn't getting the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
See Belichick, wasn't you no head coaching college? I'm talking
about for Bill Bill.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Well, there's a thought process that Bill wants to break
down down shooters record. I mean, people that know him
personally closely knows he wants that record. And you know,
going to college is not getting close to that record record.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Setting up my child. What you gonna shoot.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Ain't gonna write a check for it. I mean child
is set up. Let's be honest. It's not his child
is not destitute.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Money. It's child is set up.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The money.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Child is set up already. You know he got he's
in the will. He's set up.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
But is he getting a coaching job on his own
merits to your point, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
And he's still not getting one. He's still not getting one.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Down in waiting. If they put it in content, that's
not you said, you're still.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
You know, his child is set up, period, But his
child wants to be a coach. So that's why he
was in Washington.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The decent in Washington. They were really good this year, fantastic,
you know, was Pete Carroll.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Kid too this year?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
And nepotism.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
But but again we're localizing it with him out to mix.
If they do make a move on Mike, Uh, who's
the best options?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
You're not getting Ben Jon hadn't.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Told you Keller Moore coming back. You can breathe heavy
if you want to.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I know him.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Look at it like what he did. He ran the
ball this year. Look at the Eagles they in.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
The chest made it don't matter.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He's comfortable. We know him. He's grown, Dak loves it,
kelling more your next day it coach down.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
You could sell that the change that they had in Philly.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
You could tell him, can't you can't bring that running
back with him, because I mean, that's that's a big
part of the success.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Before you draft, What do.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You always tell why are you trying to use logic
and logic?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm just asking, so, I mean we're throwing names out there.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I'm just I'm just saying he leading the clubhouse, Mike Rabel.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I mean, to your point, Troy Aikman said, you know what,
are the candidates out there would have a better resumes
Bill Belichick than Mike McCarthy. And now that guy's gone, and.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
His guys that you can get, like Ben Johnson be fantastic.
He can't come in here, but he's not.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Yeah, do you see his criteria that he listened out?
That's that doesn't fit.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Dallas, right.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
So who can you get back to what you said
before about how Limbek and Lena not gonna be an
option here.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
When you spoke about Jerry and his fondness for Bill Belichick.
If Jerry had all the fondness in the world, his
opportunity was last year he could have gotten Bill Belichick,
but he decided not to. And this is now the
second time where Jerry's had an opportunity with Bill and
he's passed on it. So you can like a guy
all day long, but when it came time to pull
the trigger, if you wanted him, you to done it.
(07:07):
We've seen other people who have like, hey, we've seen
this happen in sports where owners wanted a guy, they
went and got him.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
They didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well. Bill Belichick ain't coming cheap either.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you either want them you don't want, or I know,
but you want to hit it nickas Sam, So you
don't want.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Just knowing Jerry.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
And I know people think Jerry's ruthless, but Jerry don't
just fire people intimately. And certainly he's not just going
to He's going to have a heart for Mike and
how he does it whether you like it or not,
whether you think it's right or not. And you know
there are people who stayed on staff who were fired
who never left the building around if you talk to
people around here, I mean, he just don't usher people
(07:44):
out the door.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Now, he did a job, seriously job, so.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I hear what you're saying about as fond as he
does it. But he likes Mike too. I mean, it
doesn't mean he doesn't like Mike. And he he was
going to give Michael chance, although he didn't really give
me a chance. They give nothing worked with come to
this last year, but he was not ready to move
on for Mic and you and you moved to Bill.
It's a whole lot of conversations. I look, how you
run the franchise, how much you pay Bill a come
(08:11):
and part of that for the page was pay scales
and Bill a coming for cheat. So some I'm just
saying that the notion that he had a chance, he
didn't do it, it's it's it's more layers to it
than that.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It's just not as simple as that to you.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You can break it down any more context but you
just did. But but over the bottom line is he
did have a choice. You had an opportunity if you
wanted to do this, it was available for you there.
He decided not to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
He got that yacht. He can afford Bill if you
want to.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
If you want right, I'll say this because I was
in Los Angeles after they got rid of Dell Harris
and made Kurt Rambason interim and everybody like Bus is
not paying any money. He won't even paid. Jerry West,
the man won't pay. And next thing we know, Phil
Jackson walked in there. And then for the one availability
that we had with Jerry Buss, Like, what happened? You
(08:58):
guys said I wasn't paying. You never heard let me
say that. I'm sorry. We just looked at historic. Jerry
told us you back, but you know, so who knows.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But he didn't do it. He didn't do it. So
there you go.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
But all of this said two times at least I
thought Jason Garrett was gone and he lived. Maybe Mike
McCarthy lives. You just you just see another player get
hurt over shown is out hurt. I mean the ability
to say, Jerry, you didn't give me a whole lot.
There's a lot of groceries out here. I had to
(09:35):
make gulash. It didn't taste good.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
What did does that get you? Does that get your
two year deal?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
And that's the thing, because I think, yeah, one year,
two years, I.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Mean no, you can't do it. Three year though to
pairing with DAK for the rest of their contracts.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You can make a deal anytime you want to put
out so I mean you do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I mean, it's kindact, do whatever you want.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
The thing about Mike and going forward is, yes, Jared
said him, a failure with not improving the roster. Yes, Uh,
they have had a lot of injuries, but yes, play calling,
bone headed mistakes, penalties. Uh, they've been on worse NY
(10:18):
mid time, just like someday, I mean monthy. Excuse me,
you know what is the what is the difference back
door on touching the ball?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Hates just turned around?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
So out there who that's coaching until you go fire
bones fossil? Okay, Well, I mean if the coach goes,
the staff is gone.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
You could bring the coach back and replace the special
teams coach.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
But it's more than just I mean there's been bone
had players with legal mo.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I mean, there's there's there's there's communications, there's a lot
of things that that that that you get point they're
not a well coached team this year. You can point
to a lot of mistakes you know that that go
straight to the top and who's the account of everything
on the football fields.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
They head coach. So I mean all of that's part
of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Okay, so let's just put it this one go round
the table right here, right now.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Three eleven. From what you.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Understand and know about Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, a courting
to Clarence Hill, most trusted.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He coaching his team next year.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I don't think so, Joe, he coaching this team next year.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I don't know if Jerry wants to do another coaching search,
especially trying to get up in custody. Yes and no,
Yes he's there.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Mike McCarthy's here. No Kelling Morris and next head coach.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I'm not doing that. I'm just saying.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
That's why I said, yes, is that much?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
If you don't if you don't give him extention that
twelve and five, five, twelve and five as seven and
ten or whatever they gonna finish you with, I just
don't know how you can do that.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
See, that's the logical point right there. So the Cowboys
are you trying to put logical situation?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
By the way, the Cowboys are a three point underdog
against the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, and then we move on. I mean there's something
we can talk about the next segment.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
I mean, the Cowboys at a point want to the
next four games, which they'd never been in Mike mcrtzon,
never been in it playing games with nothing to play for.
M I mean this team, largely young team, they've been
in contentent last three years.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Okay, they don't know what it's like.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And then we give them credit for competing when they
were still had hope even whether you whether you thought
they had hope or not, they felt they had hope.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
His first year here, well on that though.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Generally this team, these young guys who've been over the
last three year, a lot of people first year not
here except you know, but the older guys. But they
have not been in a situation where had nothing to
play for.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So ither thing what happens is and because I think
Carolina beats him this week, and that's because it's not
that they'll quit. They'll go out there and compete, but
they're focused during the week. Won't be as sharp, their practice,
which has already been shady this year, won't be as sharp,
their own individual preparation won't be as much because they
feeling sorry for themselves. And so when you get out
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on the field, it's not that you quit, it's that
your preparation. Was it the norm and it gets exposed
against somebody a team that's playing for like Bryce is like, hey,
I had a couple of good games in the last month.
Let me try to finish strong. Carolina trying to finish strong,
whereas the Cowboy was just playing out the stream.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
Right to your point too, I mean that locker room
was and Mike McCarthy said it was one of the
most devastated, just sad locker rooms that I've ever seen.
Was that postgame locker room. We were in locker room
earlier today was not a happy place. Still clearly that honestly,
the depression from that game is still lingering. So when
you're to your point, I mean that Carolina team has
played really tough the last few weeks. They're fighting for something.
Dave can Allis has got them going. Can Mike McCarthy
(13:38):
reinstall that fight going into this one?
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And that's something Mike said after the game, is that
they put a lot into this game.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
They just what was up.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
They put a lot into this game.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
And he said they had their best week of practice,
you know, last week, and he felt our team was coming,
got their cornerbacks back. I felt our team was together
and they put a lot into beating Cincinnati, and it
was right there for and they got snatched by their
own doing. We got snatched away, And so the energy
(14:07):
going forward won't be the same as it was the
last couple of weeks because they fucked that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
They were believing their own stuff. They will.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
We're gonna make a run and we're gonna finish up
strong and we're gonna we got this right there for him.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And now.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Nothing is saving them from the nightmare of a season.
There was a nightmare from our set. The reality of
that is sober and reality that nothing is gonna save
them from this nightmare of season.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
All right, when we come back, Clarence wants to go
and talk about the Carolina Pants is in fact the
Cowboys and Underdogs.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
We'll do that next with you Chaquelle, Joe Hooy Clance Hill, is.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
That what I want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
You said it? He said it, kay, and so asked
for call it. We're gonna do it next. I'm merely
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media bruck well being the one without a baseball cap
on the day.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You don't wear you don't never wear hats on the
While we're having this conversation.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Jacques Taylor Aaron Rodgers on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
When you don't.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You don't wear baseball. She's not baseball. I've been knowing
a long time.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
You're not a baseball head guy.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Okay, real quick, how many baseball caps do I have
my trunk in my car?
Speaker 4 (17:17):
I don't know, but i't on your head.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Three.
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That's damn good. I don't see a lot of him
on your head.
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That's because I wouldn't want to go hacking.
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Okay once a week. Again, you don't wear them a lot,
That is my point.
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I just asked question.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
It sounded like Aaron Rodgers and down. I hate when
people go on his pin and making them rock themselves
on his own ears spin showed us about himself.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Be interesting to see where he's playing next year. He
won't be the Jets will not be in New York.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I like this, would you like to see him play?
I'd like to see him in Tennessee. Oh, Frank Carthorn
is gonna sign up for that.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Now, My got Cali. Now my Callahan's gonna get your
guy he might over see. In high school, what yeah,
Brian Callahan was my offensive qording and my freshman year told.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Me that at breaking your own news, I thought you
just liking the guy because he was, you know, on
the Shanahan system and all, you know, like all these
you know, young coaches that get all he's.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Not under the Shanahans well tangentially maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Anyways, I'm sorry, I got it up.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Man coached by Brian Callahan.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You go, how often would the Bill Shore did he
come around?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
And all the time I think once, yeah, yeah, But
this was he was a freshman. I was see at
the time. He just got out of U c l A. So,
I mean, as.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Jared Jones said a long time ago to Shanahans, mcclanahan's the.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Hockey coach, did he get you to run?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
I played defense linebacker called me an a whole bunch
of times in practice because he was.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Making plays disrupted. They still yeah, Big ten champion Joe
Hoyt here in the house. We ain't got to say.
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We planned our flag.
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Do you know there's a opportunity The Congress went in Ohio.
That's such a baby poop movie and its thing. Ever,
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Speaker 4 (19:33):
True, Speaking of winning games, true cow was gonna win
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The Cowboys are three point underdog.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Three point went up.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yes, ESPN has.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Been a three point underdog in Charlotte, North Carolina Bank
of America Stadium where last year Jerry Jones and Jimmy
Johnson walked on the sidelines, took over the Fox pregame
show to announce that Jimmy was going to go into
the Cowboys Ring of Honor on December thirtieth, and Jerry
he was still doing the press conferences kickoff hat. So
(20:04):
then Jerry told us, remember that I got to go
call some plays and made his way on up to
the booth. Cowboys won the game. Uh, Panthers later on
fired the coach, and so he's got a new coach,
Dave Canalis, who's got Bryce Young playing well. Benched him,
brought him back, and so here you go, a team
coming off a short week, Cowboys devastating loss.
Speaker 12 (20:27):
Uh you know, so.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Carolina played Philadelphia to the buzzle list.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Should have won it, and he dropped the pass.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Here's here's since November thirties. Look at the coon eater.
I meet it when he's reccoon record. You all want
to record, you won't want it, dad.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
So since November.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
November three, Carolina beat New Orleans twenty three, twenty two,
and Dennis Allen was relieved of his duties as the
Saints head coach. Then the next week they go would
take on the Giants. They went twenty to seventeen. Then
they come hanging on I think they was waiting on Belichick,
but that's not happening. So then they in Charlotte, North
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Carolina Panthers valiantly took on Kansas City, lost thirty to
twenty seven. Then after that, last week I should say
December first, it was a overtime loss to Tampa Bay
twenty six, twenty three, and they had ample opportunity when
that one couldn't close the deal. And then last week
took on Philadelphia. They lose twenty two to sixteen. So
they have played good football. They are a three point
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favorites and Cowboys lost a heartbreaker. You know, well, it
wasn't Ao's fault according to Special Team's coach bos Fossil,
but touched the punt since Dad gets the ball back
forty yard touchdown pass to Jamar Chase with a minute,
one second to go and they're falling, But it wasn't
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his fault according.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
To will You Spare Limits we phrased it. When you're
in the roster play and you play specialties, that's what
you do. You end of the roster play, you place.
You have to know the rules though, and this this
whole notion of I just turned around the ball was there.
Come on, stop it man, he made a poor play.
Try to be the hero.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
And that's what he talked about today. I think in
part you can say, hey, yeah, it came up on
me quick because he was turned around and then the
ball had crazy spin on it. But by the time
he turned around him being an athlete, he had a
decision to make it a split second one sure, but
he had decision making and he decided, as he told
us today, to go for the ball. It didn't work out,
and he says, I wish I would have done it differently.
Maybe I wish I wouldn't have touched it, but at
the end of the day, that was the decision I made.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
And it was a poor decision. And just owning your decision,
you know, don't don't make you cool. You don't know
value you could you own a poor decision?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, because it was. It was if you know the rules,
you don't even touch the ball is ours if you
don't do nothing and.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Just we're Jesse Hallen's on our show. He's on this
show as well, and he talks about being a sports
teams guy. And I know he said the crowd was yelling.
But if you're on the field, you hear boom you.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Here, he admitted to, you hear the block, then you
hit a tap.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I mean you hit a boot and you hit the tap,
so you know his block.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
You know, you have to know you hear the roar
of the crowd too.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
You hear the word crowd, but you even amongst your
word of the crowd. But the reason why the crowds roaring, Yeah,
it wasn't because it was.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
It wasn't running back if you're still block, if it's
up on you, I mean, utus put one and one together.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
Well, he admitted to that that he heard the thump, thump,
and then he just turned around and there it was.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
If you heard the thump thump that he knows block.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I know, and he decided, oh wait, that's coming at me.
Do I try to jump out of the way or not,
I'm gonna go for it, which, hey, y'all know, is
the wrong decision.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
He'd have had to do that on a zoom cut
because he would.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Be here, Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter, get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I mean, he's not he's not so good that I
got to have him on my team. I'd be like,
this is the example from here going forward. You make
dumb plays around here. Uh, that cost us games. You
got to go if you are friends guy, and all
you do is specialty.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
So I'm glad he because a coach because they lied.
They lied because they said he didn't hear he heard
the crowd.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I don't like that.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Yesterday they tried to say he only heard the crowd
and hed the thump.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
If you heard the thump, he said.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
The first thing, he said, I heard the thumb. What
if you heard the thump, you know his block And
he said he didn't know. He said, I heard the thumb,
But he said, I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
For yet what you think is for?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, it's a punt, Yeah, stumping for a reason.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
You think somebody slapped the pump upside to he Well,
at the end of the day too, we've had now
a few days to just talk about this, about like
what his thought process was.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
We had Bones Fossil yesterday questioning our saying exactly what
he thought it was. The bummer is and this is
why we as reporters go to ask these questions in
the locker room. Is he didn't want to talk and
see j Goodwin wouldn't let him talk you. And that's
what happens when you don't have the answers right after
the game. So that's why we as just for fans
out there, that's why we as reporters go to try
and talk to these guys and get answers, because we've
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had days and now to let this linger and the
kind of question how did this happen?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
We didn't get no ouse out of the game, But
you don't got an after the game. That's what I'm saying,
Jerry go you don't get after the game.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Jerry Jones got downce after Yeah, he went straight house.
I was going on, why did you call him fake punt?
Did he know the rules? Know the rules for the game.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
Can't you wanted to know.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Why didn't you call him? You can't handle it.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
You can't have that out, Colonel, not white play the
fake I mean the block was at great play.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's how you get asked. He made a play. You're
looking come and make him play in a big game.
And he made a play.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And you know what happened.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
And hello.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
After he admitted to the cold red, he just says,
colonel guard the he says in peace guard the colonel, what.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Am I being arrested?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Crime? You my job?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Going back to my base.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I do it again.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Cooy, I did it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I do it again.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
And when we've come to man and I'm glad you
said and that is it's like.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
The jon Ye Thomas play, I do it again, jy
Ya Thomas admitted he ran.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
On side. Get back towards down.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Teaching coaching says, go down, okay, go down in the
locker room thirty minutes again, I do it again. That's
not correct coaching. That's not correct teaching. Okay, you're like
the like the fake punt check this out when I finished.
Didn't like the fake punt in your own territory.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Well, the teaching says, you call it, you activate.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Got the look he on it, so we activated. It
was a bad down a distance, just like the other day. Aoh,
and yesterday they're talking about he just trying to make
a play the ball.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Try.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
That's the wrong decision.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It's not about your instincts, about your teaching.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's about your discipline. It's not the teaching is fine,
but situation. We was all in certain. I can't speak
for you. I can speak for the black folks in here.
It was all at a certain point where you don't
do things as a kid because you don't want to
get that. But belt the belt, the belt, the extension,
cord to brush the center whatever. Hey, everybody gone to
(27:30):
glory at shooting birg.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
You may have no else.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Cord switch switch might hit you with the broom, she
was sweet, might hit you with the green Did you
have to switch?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
You don't come back with no band switch? Bring me
back a representative switch. And if it's all wrong, switching
was your cousin.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
People and the people got a street got with a
water hole anyway, look at that.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
Why I told you don't didn't have water hoses. Please
don't want that again.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's the problem, as is all about time out. Somebody's
need their butt tap so that when you out there
you think about it. Oh, I probably shouldn't do this.
I ain't gonna be here on Tuesday and then instead there.
Oh that's okay, son, we understand mistakes happen. Don't worry,
but it's not your fuck.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
It's no coach Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And make sure.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Next Cowboys coaching.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
You're just wrong.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I learned from you.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So it's too much. It's too much love on this Steff.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
It needs to be some hugs and just like after
the game, why are y'all protecting him from talking to
the media.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Why are you protecting? And I like them protecting, but
you teach I mean, you're teaching.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Them about accountability and responsibility. Is nothing wrong with explaining
what happened? Dad gusts to explained what happened with those interceptions.
Every time Michael Partner has to explained what happened when
he's doing whatever, I mean, City Lamba, explaining what happened?
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Why the kicker of the playing without what he missed
a kick. Why can't you explain? Why are you? But
he's not a rookie. He's not a precocious rookie. He's
been in the leg five or six years.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
If Brandon I Aubrey miss field goal at the buzzer,
he's gonna stand in front of his locker and talk
about I mishit it, I did whatever it happens.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I talked to Pat Doney yesterday and he said, how
he goes up, we.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Got a prefaces by saying it's positive, Pat Doney, it
is positive.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
He was trying to get on that Sunday night, Monday night.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
So so he goes up there, CJ. He's not talking,
and he said, excuse me, I'm talking to him.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yes, you know, I like that.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know, if he doesn't want you, then then he
can answer for him. Tell and J's like, no, no,
we're not doing this negativity. And then Jordan Lewis got
in there and talk about the whole negativity thing, and
so and.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Then mcwameem came in and then Buddy Johnson.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Them last two can't say nothing, yeah, and CJ can
barely say something. He' my boy, Jordan Lewis got a
voice but the rest of them joke his job yet.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
And I asked Michae about it.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
He said, yeah, I like my guy protecting the players,
but yeah, he has to be accountable.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He's gonna talk, but yeah, you gotta be able to that.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And one of my first pr staff in this endeavor,
since their job, part of their job is makes folks available,
they did today.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
They did.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Tad said after yesterday that he would be made available today.
But my issue has always been when you decide as
a player not to talk after critical things like that,
that means other people in the room have to answer
for you. And number one, that's wrong. But number two,
don't sit around here and make somebody answer for you
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till about that they were wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Well, no, no, no, do it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Do your job, and that's that is what And I
know the person and a profession there's people in the
room that room who feel like, well, the only time
you want to talk is something negative happened.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
That's not true. Because we had a big game, A
couple gets Pittsburgh or whatever else. They wrote big stories
about it. We've talked about it.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Yeah, no against the Giants when you game saying interception,
I mean I looked at Manni's name after the game
in the first headline season Dallas Moore and was saying,
Amani had that mama mentality after the game, and so.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
We talked to him, but he was good.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, if you won't have.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Them with mentality, Kobe, I talked to Kobe, have to
miss him three airbolls.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I talked to it.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, and Kobe, will I do it again? Just say
that it'll be better next time. But but literally that
that I do find that very hilarious. We want to
talk about mamba mentality, but we ain't doing nothing that
the mama did. Hey bro, I'm just I saw the mamba.
Saw it from Timmy got there to the one, the
first one. The dudes ain't no mama mentality. Mama took
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Speaker 6 (34:57):
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Speaker 3 (35:19):
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be inclement weather.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
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Yes, it's gonna be cold.
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Speaker 3 (35:47):
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Speaker 1 (36:05):
Get y'all to I don't know, play two children. I
have two children in college. I gotta fund them fund.
I have fund my children.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Here all right, Cowboys at Carolina Uh Sunday Bank of
America Stadium. Cooper Rush is going to start. Jerry Jones
is still with the Cooper Rush thing. They're a fan
right now who want two things. One they want to
get a higher draft pickcause Cowboys sitting at twelfth and two.
A lot of fans want to see Trey Lance and
say what do they have here?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, but most trusted, most trusted. What's going on? Let's
start with you first.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I mean, that's what I was trying to get early.
I mean, what are the Cowboys out to play for?
I mean they're not playing with the playoffs and in
the usual situation, unusual spot is seeing Trey Lance something
you want to play with? Jerry talk the other day.
They're going to start serving the Cooper Rush are still
trying to win games and pointing for them to win games.
But you know, are you cutting off your nose to
spike your face if you don't play for it? Pick
(37:00):
if you don't find out what you got in trade Lance,
who could possibly your back up next year? Or you
can get something in free agency, if or or comp
pick if he signed with somebody and shows something.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You know, Uh, what's the what's the what's the goal?
You know, it's just an unusual spot for this team.
What's the goal going forward?
Speaker 9 (37:21):
You know?
Speaker 4 (37:21):
What is what does winn winning games do for you?
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Because most of these guys you're talking about thirty guys
who are free agency on the last year that contract, Oh,
coding staff, What does winning games do for you as
an organization? It may do something for them, you know,
because they may be playing the way the content of
the team, But what does it do for the Cowboys too,
your focus to win game?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Other than winning games?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
I want to say, I kind of And I know
he's the number three overall pick and it's got a
loo at amount of money, But I feel bad for
how Trey Lance's career has transpired because he barely played
high school football, goes to North Dakota State, has to
set plays one year, starts there, then COVID hits. Then
he comes to San Francisco, where there's just gonna no
plan for him. He barely gets any snaps. Now he's
in Dallas, plan let me hold, let me finish. The
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plane does not go well. Comes here and we saw
him in the free season. That was the most he no, no, no,
But if you man make it now, let me finish.
I feel bad for how his career transpired because I
don't think he ever had a chance. And now I
think we know exactly what we're supposed to know about
Trey Lance. There's a reason why Cooper Rush is playing.
They know what they know about Trey Lance. Why do
you think, why do you think that or else he
(38:26):
would be playing?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
See, that's what I think. Like there's been no here,
no players.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
That's that's.
Speaker 11 (38:33):
No.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
I feel bad for how career has transpired relatively to
other guy who didn't play, relative other NFL players, relative
to other NFL players, relative.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
To people in life. High school football players who started
basically a year.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Joe, Joe, don't let this know.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Your empathy can be your empathy just because man has
You don't need to.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
Play one year quarterback in high school, don't throw but
three passes, gets a college scholarship, he plays one basically
one year of college football.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
Look at all his game, but one year at college.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
But that's my point.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And he gets to be the third and highest pick
in the draft. Yeah, million contract, angry, angry.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
My empathy is because it's relevance and he and he
still get five million this year. Would you say Trey
Lance is talented?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
You don't think there's talent there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I don't know talent as well.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
What I'm saying, I was never given a chance.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I don't know he's talented. Do you know he's talented.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I think he's talented based on what based on his
his arm power and his ability to run, his speed.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Wouldn't it be nice to see if you could see
him play against the Carolina Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
We haven't seen him playing.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
We saw him playing.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
It's about my thing is he's I mean, he's a
decent thing. He ain't jacks?
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Did he improve? We saw bright Young improved? Did he improve?
Speaker 11 (39:49):
What?
Speaker 12 (39:49):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
What is he showing you? How they coached him up?
Speaker 5 (39:51):
I mean I liked, liked, that's all they say. They
quarterback grules and they say they know how to develop
a course.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Can you see some rule? Does the gurus?
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Can we see on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
I think they've seen it, but it was not for
you to see if they already know?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
That's what my point is, because he has never had
a chance to develop, and I think by this point
they already know who he is, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
They said they see them dirt balls and practice. They
don't want to see.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Them anything that's dirt balls Monday night?
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah, but so so what what what is Cooper Rush
going to do at this point in time?
Speaker 1 (40:27):
You know who he is? Correct?
Speaker 4 (40:28):
I think we all say, you know what he is?
I think, I think after Carolina gonna throw up the hands.
That's the goal with trade. Short week, you're not going
to do it.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
But why but why short week you're not going to
do all right, this is short week.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
It was a night game.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
It's a short literally short, it's a short week.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Then you do it.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
Then you do the baseball thing, all right, Cooper, get
on out there, and then hey, Trey, you know, get
some packages, do whatever.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
But and if this game gets away from them more
than one one play package, and.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Then you got off as a coordinator. You tap at home,
but tap it home after this, Right, But.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
You've also known the potential for Trey Lance and going
there existed for a while because Dak Prescott has been out.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
So if you on Sunday night for Mass at Mass
some that's something to sell on Sunday night, Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (41:15):
Don't flex them, you know, Jerry Scheming, Let's give them.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
We're gonna give them something to see, telling them want
to be today. Hey guys, don't flex us. Okay, Sunday night,
we're starting Tray Lance. He got another storyline to talk about.
You gotta talk about He was a third overall pick.
You can talk about how the store much high school?
You got all these stories. I get ready we can
go back to his hometown to these great stories. First
round pick gonna start Sunday Night boot.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
You know what that reminds me of his How he
goes on one of five to three the fan before
the trade deadline, He's like, I made a deal, I
got I got one and we're like, oh, who could
it be? Jonathan Minko for a fourth He's still here.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Mingo, come back to her baby.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
We gotta talk to Mingo this week.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Revenge game.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
He want he wanted to show people he can get
a chance up there. Yeah, he won't pop out and
show somebody, don't pop out of the show.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
Man, So here we're perfect scenario sat here, first Trade,
Last Stars, Sunday Night.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
No, okay, okay, write it down, Okay, write down? When
is that Jerry Netflix special?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
The Spring? I think the Spring might be super Bowl.
We can spring. I think somewhere it's not before clearly
not during the season.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Still cutting tape, till gathering stories, talking to people, seeing
who's still okay. I just want to know and they're
ever going to get the guy who cut up his
credit cards. And he always tells the story about spring
cards because one hundred years ago, Damn van Ada probably
get him a hundred years ago.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
It was at it was a restaurant one hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Is it true if Jerry says it?
Speaker 12 (42:46):
So?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It was one to Bill Clinton things where you know,
I said it. Great story, right, That's what I just
want to know.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
I just want to know. Claire Hill, thank you very much,
thank you, thank you, good luck, good luck next week.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
Rooting, appreciate it. We'll talk next We'll talk about it
next week. There will be no show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
No show tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm glad y'all told me.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
Were you here. We're gonna get a chance to tell you,
k I told you, told you man, Christ's gonna tell
you elf El Half just let you.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
I was about to tell you, Chris, Chris, it's about
the kids tomorrow. Who told you?
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I was telling the people. I was telling them publicly.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Exactly, telling everybody and you, I was telling us. That's
most trust, that's most trusted. Like man, I'm just happy
to be on the wrestle. John Jacques Tay like Newiss
beating Mash Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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