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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
This is media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping
wisdom and offering sizzling takes on the current state of
your Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Now your host new He scrugs.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Media match time here on a Thursday, as we entered
closer and closer to NBC Sunday Night Football Cowboys taking
on the Packers. Cowboys one in two Packers are two
and one Joining me here on the media table it
is Jean Shock Taylor, former Cowboy beat writer, author We've
Got the Hall of Fame, Edwarder in the House, and
football star telegrams own Nick Harris.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Subject of ridicule today in the press conference by Mattyberflus,
might ad oh really.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do tell? Let's do duh?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
I was asking, you know, if if doron Bland isn't
as simple as throwing him back in the slot, or
is there a consideration of the throwing him on the outside.
And he's like, no comment, I'm not going to give
away secrets and kind of laughed about it. And he's like,
and you're wearing a green hoodie, why would I show you.
I was like, you know what you got me there?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I told him.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I was like, you caught me.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You want to wearing navy blue?
Speaker 6 (01:12):
He's wearing gold tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yeah, wear a cheese hut on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Put on a bear outter war something worse.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
It wore like a gilly suit last week.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Sorry to put you on the spot, but I just
thought it was kind of entertaining, a good way to
start the show, a little levity.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
It was good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
How's it's gotta be tough to be maddiberflesh? Don't you
think this got a nice haircut?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
I mean, look, the beard is a much better look
than in the shape.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
The challenge is trying to put on the brave front
as you talk to the media, knowing this isn't all you.
It's a part of you, but it's not all you.
It's not you. You thought you took this job thinking,
hey man, I've got exact potential defensive playing the year.
Got two corners, right, Dias, I got two corners who
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led the league, and in this up somebody to dial
some stuff up here. And then they're trying to sell
me that Masie will be better.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
And they just signed a three technique, the most important
fight of this kind of schein. Yes, he locked up
for a couple years, Yes, coming back here, no state income, and.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Then it all goes bad and everybody wants you fired.
They're not talking about fire the general manager who put
this talent together.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You can't fight that, man.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
I'm just saying they're not talking about.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
It right, and that that that has to be a
challenge to be able to get up to them.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
As we all know, we've all covered it.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
There's just things you can't say when you step in
front of this microphone, even though it's the truth, you
just can't say it.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And this is not a matter of refluce problem in
my mind. This is this is a long standing problem.
Like he's the third defensive coordinator they've had in three years.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Have been four and six years.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Two of those guys have been one and done right.
Mike Nolan in twenty twenty, after one year with Mike
McCarthy gets fired because he allowed the most points in
franchise history. I think it was four to seventy three.
And then last year Mike Zimmer with all the injuries,
they give up second most points in the NFL only Carolina,
which set the NFL record for most points ever allowed
to a single season, had more.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
And here we are again. So it's not it's a.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Long standing issue on defense, right, I mean, what did
what did? What did the Cowboys do in the offen?
What is Jerry prioritize offense?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Right?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Last, he promoted an offensive coach to call plays and
be a first time head coach. He invested his first
round pick in an offensive alignment to protect Dak. He
signed Dak, he signed CD, and he traded Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's that. That's uh, that'sh But.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
For everra Flush to have to go to Chicago and
suffer that indignity where he was fired less than ten
months ago, the only coach in one hundred and five
years of Bears football to be fired in season, and
then his partner Caleb Williams has the greatest game of
his career, doesnt get sacked for the one time ever
once four touchdowns, no picks, highest quarterback creating he's ever had.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
What could hurt more than all that?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Watching your team give a big player at the big
player at the big So some of that's got to
be his work.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh it's as I said, it's not his fault, but
he's entirely problem.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean, but when you busting coverages like that, there's
a disconnect between you and your players, and it's up
to you as the teacher to figure out what it is.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
And so for the second week they told us that.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Last week, man, I felt bad, and then all my
students flunk the spelling tests again.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I felt bad asking Kenny Clark the know you did?
I know you did? I know you know you did? Kenned,
let me ask you this.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
You just got here.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But why we did hear this last week? And that
was I tried to put it gently.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It's not going to be a multi week problem. We
know what the issue is. We know how to fix it.
It's over.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
You're know.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I got a car like that. I thought it. I
thought I thought it was done.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You gotta take it back. We got it done, mister Taylor,
it was fine, hey man checking his ledges popped on again.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Ask Cann youself a few more books to get a
better cast.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
That's gonna be all your problem, mean all your problem,
all your problem.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What did you take away from Dak Prescott today?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
I was not at Dak. You're going to have to
defer to one of our constituents here. I was in
the locker room workings.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh you're working on something. What's working on that?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Specially pieces?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Nothing crazy at all. I just figured I can get
that dunk audio later. I need it today some.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
With a bunch of stats and thanks. I loved how
Dak spoke about facing Micah.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Embraced it, look forward to it. Yes, can't wait to
trash talk, compete. But they got to go through a
bunch of tight ends and offensive linemen to.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Get to me running back, running back.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
We're running back.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So yes, yes, And so I thought I thought he
was comfortable. I thought Kenny Clark yesterday was very comfortable
situation here.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So the guy who needs to be uncomfortables Jerry. I mean,
what's he got on the line?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, but does he really? Yeah, I don't mind ridicule.
So what's he got on the line?
Speaker 6 (06:14):
He minds it?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
The stadium movie full. Yeah, they're gonna buy all the
the you know, buy all the merchandise. Everybody's gonna get show.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So if they fall to one in three and they
can't score and Micah dominates the game, Jerry's not gonna
be upset about that.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
You know who gonna take the brunt of it.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
That's who's gonna take the brunt of Yeah, yeah, yeah,
the ask they will catch him.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I think this week Jerry Jerry tails shot Himer and
eber Flus. The priority is to win the game, and
our second priority is don't let Micah embarrass me.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Oh maybe it's the other way around. I think it's
the other way. Hey, seven man protections, two man routes.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean you only got two minutes to run routes anyway,
two men to right.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I love you. Nick. You too young to remember this.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
This is a daily thing. It's it's okay now, I'm
just taking.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
We should get that segment sponsored. Remember this.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
When being did for Reggie Jackson's with the Angels and
goes back to the Yankee Stadium, hits the home run
off Ron Gagory and George is right there and he
looking Reggie looking at him, you know, just like that
you want you wanted, mister may Dave Winfield, and look
at what you lost in me.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
I'm misster October so and Nick, that was I'm too
young for that one, okay, cool?
Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, I don't know who Reggie Jackson is.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't remember him home enough the Angels, but it
was with the Angels.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
With the same difference.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
With the Angels.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
He was either with the A's or he was with
the Yankees, the mother teams in between.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
You don't count.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I couldn't have told you he was with the Angels. Yeah,
I would not have been.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So you really don't remember the Orioles.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
No, don't remember that either.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
He wasn't born in any of this. He wasn't born.
Speaker 6 (07:55):
So it's gonna tell you in a minute.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
His mother was in high school and you were writing
stories about the boys going to the Super Bowls.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Probably very true, very true.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, we've established that before too. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yes, I learned something every day around here. That's that's
the beauty of it.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
But it will be that way, and it will be
it's going to be personal for Mika. It's not personal
for Kenny Clark. He's saying, Dak, you know, seems to
be fine. I mean that makes sixty million, that'd be
fine too.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That was said Dek.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
As much as I like that, Dek is really about
this fluts away from being Russell Wilson in terms of comments.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
In that way, in what way, No, no, no, no,
nobody no, I said that. I mean Russ is the
ultimate politician.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Man, he can actually run for president.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean Russ is bad.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
We were in Denver for that practice three years ago,
when I didn't say he was what was it?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Do that far? Fifteen twelve games? Coach up there? Who
they got? You know?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
He was Nate Hackett, Hackey, Nathaniel Hackett, Yes, Ate green Bay.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, Nate Hackett.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
He Russ got up there, made he was about the
ownership group, how there's a great ownership group, and and
I Fanuel Hackett and how much love he had for me.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It was awful. It was. That's right, you know Dack's
that out here was slogan. Yeah, that's right. I mean
he's not. I didn't say he was. No, no, no,
that that's that's that's taking it too.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
He's not in the same stratsphere.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
No, he's he's I mean Russ.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So you expect Dak to question ownership's decision and trade
the magnitude of Michael Barson's Would he question it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Would he come out and say something.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Well, does he agree with it? First of all? Like
does he feel strongly about the player or no?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I don't know does he.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
My sense is till today he was somewhat ambivalent about
it all.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Even after week one he said when he was asked
about that, that's kind of not being there.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
It was kind of like, well he's not here. We
still have a great defense. Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I don't think he like I don't think he puts
the ownership on the spot like Akman diet.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's kind of my point.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
He has publicly questioned how the micro negotiations did go down.
It was an availability at training camp Man. He spent
ten to fifteen minutes with us talking publicly on the
record about Yeah, you know, I've been there. You know
I understand the emotions that goes that that Mike's going through.
Jerry doesn't make it easy.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Okay, everybody has to go through this, right.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
That is what I'm saying. Through every year, this is
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Quarterback I grew up on had opinions, Yeah, as opposed
to I don't know, Dak didn't really have opinions. I mean,
he's got opinions, but he didn't have strong opinions when
it comes to stuff like that, and I always say
players forget like that could really say whatever he wanted
to say.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I mean maybe he is, maybe maybe he is tax
of business, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So when you are a business and you view everything
through a business.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Lens doesn't make you bad.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It just means you're not going to you're not really
going to say any thing of note ever because it
affects my busines.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Republicans by shoes too. So that was another misquote by
Michael Well, but you knew who I was talking about.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Miss something approach. Jimmy Kimble takes.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
This quote lead by boy Ga. It's personal that I
got you a political show. So so look, and I
ain't mad at him for it. It's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So here's Dak okay, And I wasn't their training camp
that day, but I saw it. So here's Dak basically saying,
I've been here, it's not fun. I got through it.
It's not fun, but get through it. CD went through it.
Micah seemed to just take it another notch and then
he asked for the trade and everything else.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So what are you supposed to do if you're Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
It's just me I feel just knowing Dak, he probably
gave him whatever he was telling us. He probably slid
it to him too. Hey, you know, but Micah, whatever
his feelings were, they were there. And after a while, man,
some dudes don't want to get saved. You know, Hey,
you probably approached it this way. We see he got
up there and said it was no fun too, and
he wanted him to get paid. But you know, and
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he saw Zeke going through it.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Maybe the best thing for Michael should have been he
never came to training camp. Did she do what Hendrickson
did down there? It'say, stay home. But he came, and
he got more and more frustrated. And I remember when
they had the the NFL network out there, he was
walking with Whitworth and he was talking to him and
doing it, talking to DeVante, I mean, been spilling his guts.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know, he was hurt. He was an emotional guy.
He's an emotional guy. And then you're laying down on
the table. He's an emotional guy with some petulance to him.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, you got to the point time where you know, man,
this is the way you're gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
I can't say at.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The same time, give the guy credit for coming back
from his injury last year and playing when sure a
lot of guys might not have.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But he wont his numbers, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
And then Jerry, Jerry wanted leadership and he participated in
the off seasons. He did.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
He came to camp. Zeke didn't come to camp. Zeke
went to Cabo, Yes he did. Zach Martin camp worked
that way, Seedee Lamb didn't come to camp work. They
all got paid. Why didn't the guy who comes to
camp get paid?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
And that's probably added to his frustration.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Well, maybe because I didn't want to make a deal
with the owner, because we saw, we saw, we saw Zach.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Zach made a deal with the owner. Tank made a
deal with the owner.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I mean, it's the owner call all of their agents.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
That's a very good question for the players, because I
remember DeMarcus where telling me I made my deal with Jerry,
and then he when Tank was going through his issues,
he said he I called Tank, and we said, Tank
go to Jerry. And then you saw Zach Mars went
to Jerry.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
So but but I talked to DeMarcus yesterday because he
was he was h huh, which was DeMarcus Ware. Okay, sorry,
that's fair question DeMarcus War, because I see him early
in his career a lot like Micah, right. I mean,
no doubt they invested a high picking him and became
a dominant edge rusher, and ultimately he split with the
organization had to go finish his career somewhere much later, yes,
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down the line. But Mike is in that same kind
of situation now. And I asked him, did you do
your own contracts with Jerry? And he said, I always
talked to Jerry about money, but my agent was always involved.
And he said there were times when he would get
a contract back and he would look at it and say,
wait a minute, this is you said. This was going
to be guaranteed and it's an incentive, and I would
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go to Jerry and get it fixed, and he would
fix it.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
But his agent was always.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Involved, which is how it's supposed to be, but it.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Wasn't in this case. And so then you can't sit
there and say it's well, it's not personal, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Because he had told me this is what I love
about players. He told me, hey, man, I never told
my agents.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I went to talk to Jerry.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So it's it's interesting, man, what guys will tell us
man so, but ultimately Mike's not here.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I think Michah being Michaeh, a young.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Guy, got frustrated by the process and decided I want
out what.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He got what he wanted.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
But we've never seen this before with this.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Realm twe was seven years. I've covered to you, I've
seen it like that.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
You've never seen them trade an elite young player at
a position as important as pass rusher. Ever, Jerry, if anything,
is always accused of staying with this players too long.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Too long, There's no doubt, there's no doubt.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
How does Micah Parsons not get a second contract because Jerry?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
How does it go to Green Bay of all.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Places, because the Jets wouldn't make a deal.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Carolina would make a deal.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You know, yeah, yeah, basically yes. But I think the
quarterback just go back to go. I just think the
quarterback was like, okay, all right, man, here's my take.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
On It's what I think.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Okay, you want to do it your way, Go ahead,
go ahead, young bull, do it your way. And and
Micah is going to be able to put on a
show Sunday and and uh yeah in retrospect.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I wish we had access to Dak now because the
question I would want to ask him that didn't get
asked today was Jerry has said, this maximizes this trade
will maximize your window to win.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
A Super Bowl? Do you feel that way? Because I
think it he'll see yes. Oh so there you go.
Now you're that makes my whole.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I understand where you're coming from because he does have
the pr line down. He definitely does.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Whether you give me that many endorsements, I'm pr in
it too.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, absolutely, But you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Well, when Troy was here, Troy never gave you anything.
Oh that's not true. Troy gave lots of things, Okay, Troy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Troy was the one stamping stopping stamping stamping stopping. Troy
was like, Michael needs to get paid, Like, no equivocate,
Like Michael needs to get paid.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
What we need to do to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Thatak was saying the same thing about Michael.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Uh, he wasn't say it like Troy was saying. But
Troy had super bowls. That's still trying to get some
playoff wins of his belt.
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Not for long? Yes, dirty work. That is dirty work.
This says you, dirty work boy.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
I wonder who's filling your chair you're sitting in the
next week.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Heck, you did it two weeks ago. It's not for long.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Long as there's a chair for me. I don't mind.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Remember I got fired on my day off last I
don't have Maybe I got off for my day off.
I came in mister Tuesday. Hey, we feel that's slide
on you on tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Man, They didn't.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
You don't have to sit in the same chair. You
just have to have a chair to sit in.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
They didn't feel the slide. I like to be the
left hand man because right hand he's right handed.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Third downs back on the media, mash Taylor urder Nick carrots,
I'm new he Scruggs looking at third down percentage for conversions.
Right now, the Cowboys on third down defensively are giving
it up fifty three point seven percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know what place that is in the league, Guys,
I do a last.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Thirty second last thirty. How many of those thirty second places?
Does a defense ranking? How many categories? Passer rating on
passer rating points.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Per game twenty eighth, net yards per game thirtieth, net
rushing yard seventeenth.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Oh, you proved that run defense.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Let's be but but in side net passing yards second
to last interceptions one diet coke one time for seventeen,
fumble recovery zero takeaways just one tie for twenty seventh
in the league.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Sacks four.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
I thought they had three, four they should have three.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Maybe they got a team say it's had four and
last week they got none. But they're twenty eighth and
in red zone fourteenth fifty four point six percent. These
are these These are numbers of Yeah, it gets you
in trouble, it gets your truble. This this is how
you get to one and two and actually you should
be lucky you got one.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Have you got the one?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah? They got they got a bunch of problems. So
which one is the is the one that they got
to solve the most. It's got to be stupp in
the big plays.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, the explosive plays.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean with the Bears game, it was four guys
that had thirty plus.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
And and two of the more wide receivers, one was
the tight end and one was a running back. So
you got a problem on every level of your defense
and pass coverce.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Seven guys had explosive plays, four of them were thirty
plus yards and more. So right there, you got to
you gotta stop the the big explosions. And also you're
making suspect quarterbacks look like Pro bowlers on you know,
Russell Wilson's four fifty on you, the next week he's terrible,
and he's now benched. Caleb Williams career high touchdown.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
The Giants scored six points in week one, they scored
thirty seven on you, and they scored nine to the
next week against Kansas City and bench their quarterback. Yeah,
that's how bad the defense.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
We talked about indictments on this defense quite a bit.
You could look at the pass defense, you could look
at the pass rush that the takeaways too, that's another one.
That one interception was gifted the Donovan Wilson in overtime.
Other than that they have had zero.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
But again, and if you can't rush the passes and
put quarterbacks under the risk, what they make mistakes.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
And if you're not within twelve yards of the intended receiver.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Right exactly, So I mean this this they're not helping
out this offense onsoever. The complimentary football, Yeah, it's it's
been awful.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What so what a hever flues? Give? What hope? What
message did you give you guys today? Did you even bought?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Yeah, nothing that I bought. Personally, it's you know, you
can only work on the communication so long and he's
expecting another loud crowd on Sunday, and you know it's
I I don't see how he could get fixed in
the matter of a couple of weeks. I mean, this
is something that's going to be a long term issue.
I think it's leading toward personnel changes. Until they make
personnel changes on this defense, I don't feel like we're.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Well, they left the opening the other day, did they not?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
They did?
Speaker 6 (24:17):
They did?
Speaker 5 (24:17):
I just wonder how substantial we're talking. I'm not talking
you know, Jatoya out for Mazzie smith In.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That personnel change.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
That was a personnel change. That's what I was.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
The realistic changes they can make.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Well, they're gonna get Deron Bland back. They can play
Jadevian clownby.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Right at one Yea Thomas in for Donovan Wilson. I mean,
it can't be worse than what Donovan Wilson has done
his own. Coverage more, Marius lea foul more, Marius Leaf
foul in the middle. Jack Simbourg just unathletic, Kenneth Murray
is just unathletic. Put some athletic presences in that second level.
Activate Shamar James, give him some reps. I mean, it
just just toy with it. They haven't done that, and
(24:52):
I'm not I'm not sitting here looking at j Toya
out and Mizzi smith in as the big change and
buying that.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
So he also said they were going to simplify the
calls into one word.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah, so cover everybody, run.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Pass run, family owned three, dono compete.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And I feel bad for Donovan Wilson.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
We talked to we talked a little bit about yesterday
Nick and I and this is.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
This scheme.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What Ebrafluce wants to do. It's not taking This is
not new, right.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
What's so hard about it? It's been around forever, the
Tampa Cover two. They ran it here when Marinelli was
here for seven years. Iberflus has been here for seven years.
He's been a successful coordinator with other organizations.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Why is this so hard? I think it's because you
don't have good enough players.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Oh, is it the carpenter of the carpenter's tools. I've
been saying that for a few years now. The carpenter's
tools has some issues here.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
This was a team like for three years under Dan Quinn,
nobody created more pressure, nobody created more turnovers, nobody had
more defensive touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
How did he use Donovan Wilson versus high season? Now?
Not just that they had They had a scheme and
an identity. This is what we do.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We play a certain way, we get ahead, we rush
the past, we do all this stuff, which is why
when they had to play from behind, they got exposed sometimes.
But they were the kings of the front runers well
because they knew exactly how they wanted to play. They
had a definitive defensive identity, which this team lecks to.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Answer that question, Donovan Wilson was playing in the box
considerably more playing to his way he's supposed to be.
When he was in coverage, it was against tight ends,
you know, guys that you know weren't going to burn him. Athletically,
he was stepping up in the run game able to
maximize his physicality, and they really maximized Malie Cooker as
that one high safety. And so I don't know's it
doesn't feel like anytime I see Donovan Wilson as a
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field safety that I trust it at all.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And you shouldn't because that ain't what he do.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You don't have Micah Parsons, you don't have DeMarcus Lawrence,
you don't have Chauncey Goldsen, you don't have Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Hey, Carl Lawson got you five sacks last year.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
That's what I think. That he can be clowny, right,
cloy that guy.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And thus I asked Dak his opinion on being a
big underdog, was big touchdown that big in this league?
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:22):
I think as I think there's only been three times
where he's been a touchdown underdog at home in his career.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
The Packers won five straight against the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
They've never lost a Jerry World, including six times they've
played there, and they won them all. And they've averaged
thirty four points a game.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Hey like your spot, yeah and uh yeah. And the
Cowboys are giving up thirty a game.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
The Packers are giving up fourteen a game.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Sounds spread out to be sixteen.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean, even if you do keep it within one possession,
that's almost to win at the end of the day
against this team.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
As that's about us as us at the moral victory stage.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Man, at this point, keep it closed stage, I'm thinking, God,
the guys go ahead and keep.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
It close, stay healthy for the for the Carolina and
the Jets.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Guys, keep it close, take it get right in the
middle lands.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Negativity, you know what you want to go?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Okay, we'll take a break, a positive shot, positive shots.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So I'm about to give.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Us three things, okay, to hang it out off exactly.
You know, three positives from jj T the author coming up.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
You can't say anything good about Dak You already ripped him.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Hey, Bamer, we needed ext I'll get the stats right,
so you can go ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You can figure out the Jacks. Three positives coming up,
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All right with the break here we got a old
positive shot, said I was being on negative since the
Cowboys are underdog and the loss of the Cowboys lost
to the Packers five straight times.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Edward tolds they've never lost to Jerry World. But you
got give it. Give me your top three, give me
that hope you for Sunday night, boot to hope him
number one.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
George Pickens has touchdowns and consecutive games for the first
time in his career.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Can he get three as the lead receiver here today?
See he's a positivity man one. See George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
You can build them passing game around him for a
few weeks until he melts down.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He said he spects double coverage on Sunday. Okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Twy got turping.
Speaker 6 (31:54):
That's why you got him, you know, I got him
to return kicks and punts.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
This offseason, the Cowboys made a substantial, substantial investment in
Jake Ferguson, and it's paying off. He leaves all tight
ends with twenty seven receptions average. Why y'all laughing, what's
the average?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Came up with two?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Why y'all laughing? What's the average on them?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
We ain't talking about that. We talking about receptions moving
the change. You know, a successful running place four yards
or more. He's averaging six yards of catch. That's a
successful reception, six yards a catch. I mean, hey, that's
number two.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
What do they what did they say? They kind of
become the checkdown receiver.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
He is Dak's security blanket. That should be like a half.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
He's like a running back of the There was a.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Jadon Novacheck, there was Dalton Schultz, Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Okay, that's two and number three.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Come on, man, get on the Javonte Williams training. That
man averaging five point three per carry on forty three carries,
delivering pain every time he touched the ball.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I told y'all you can be positive, Well you could
be negative. Nelly's ali.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Yeah, what's the first one of Steorge pickets? All three
were on offense.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, you can't find the positives on defense.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Man a run defense seventeenth, It's not thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So when asked about the tip balls led to an interception,
I did score in the game.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Oh I caught that.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Once you score, you couldn't screw anything else up. You
don't have to execute anymore as long as you got
that one touchdown.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Boy, Tara lewinsh thugs we win.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I don't care when they got Okay, you know I
caught touchdown pass Okay from tipping balls.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You talk about not giving anything up, George Pickens, how
many times did you say I'm here for the dub.
I'm here for the team. Wasn't about him at all.
So to Jock's point about now he's a number one receiver, score, Okay,
Deck's done a good job with him. Cowboys are oh
win three when they don't have CD lamb and oh
win five when he doesn't get a catch. But they
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didn't have pickings still now, No, they never had pickings
to rescue him like they do now.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
So I'm adding on to Jacques's sunshine, I'll.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Give you one of mingos getting closer to coming back.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
He probably does come back next week. You probably get
Kaylen Carson back next week too, there's another corner throwing
the mix.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Jerry said, Calvary's coming, Calvary's come defensive, Calvary's coming.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Ye see, I'm just giving you stuff.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You have Brandon Aubrey kicking indoors this week.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Your past rush is a issue. Peyton Turner might be
coming back next week.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I forgot about him.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
He is here. I forgot.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Well, you know who takes some serious swipes in him
all the time. Scott Scant. Scott Shanley, former Cowboy lineback,
was at the Saints. I mean he your dog wears
Turner out.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Have a bad preseason he had because he got hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
He's like the tradition like no other.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
He was just killing the guy. I mean, I'm like,
did Shanley did he do something to shit he disrespected?
Did he there's number of something. Didn't have me what
did this man do? Because Scott is on him, I
was like, wow, Wow, what do you But I'm gonna
have to ask him.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But look.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Another kind of And this was one of the things
about the Cowboys that the fans were frustrated. Jerry not
going into free agency to pay anybody, and you're getting
these guys who are former first rounders that that for
the most.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Part, there's six of them now with the clown.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, I talked to him today. Why about negative? I mean,
I find my puzzit. I'd go back to your negative now.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Too many people were around Javonte Williams.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Well, actually he was next to Tyler Smith. Everybody was
talking to Tyler.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Smith, and we need I needed numbers, I needed more guys.
Talking so much about Micah here, I needed to get defense,
and so I went over and talked to him. Uh,
and he talked about communication too, So everybody's I mean
it's as simple as you know, talking and communicating.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
And depend that way the whole time, the whole time.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I do have a question on a on a week
where they need some offense and they need to try
to control the buss go supports.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
What's up with this Hunter Limkey thing?
Speaker 8 (36:09):
Man?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
I mean they paid that man shot Shoty talked about
it like, I don'tt like and we ain't sync him
synced him at all.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, he's like, what's the deal with him? Mister mister
green sweatshirt.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Head North Dakota State. Right here he was asked about
you know you did extend him over the offseason where
does the snap count come from? Because it hasn't been there, right,
And he said, uh, you know, twenty twenty five snaps,
that's not going to be a hundred limpkey he said that,
So that's what you want.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
What's he going on?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Because he's like, he's going to get that many snaps
on special teams and we're going to work him in
in certain areas on offense. It's just it surprises me too,
because he had so much usage at training camp as
an offset tight end, receiving tight end, as a lead blocker,
uh screen game. But he hasn't had a touch yet,
so that's right, So why did they go pay him?
That's confusing to me.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
You think one of those teams problem is not getting
Hunter Lipkey enough touches.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
No, it falls into the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
But they do nonsensical things. They do things that don't
make sense, and so I know, no, that's for other people, okay,
is like if you make moves, they should make sense
or you should be like, oh, I see why they
signed them. It wasn't just to get the attention off
of Mica. They really meant to sign them and use it.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
You mean like signing two ninety million dollar corners who
never played together.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Man, you know, like I like d Ryan Bland, but I,
for whatever's worth, I spent the whole offseason going d
Ryan Bland had a great season, he had an injury
plague season.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I guess we'll really figure out what he is this
year before you pay him. Instead, they paid him and
what happened and it's not his fault. But so damned
if they do. Damned if they don't. Right in some cases, yes,
did you have anybody have a problem with this deal? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
No, what the way the contract is set up. If
they want to get out of it after two years,
it's very easy for them too.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Knowing this is probably the end of Diggs. I'm signing
Bland and I want to sign them before he gets
to the market.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Okay, bro, I'm just saying, man.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
And I'm just saying, looking at what they've got now
that Mike is not here. First time I got money. Now, okay,
so you got money. I want to sign a guy
who I think can be a corner for me for
a couple yearks. Because it's trending towards you saying goodbye.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
This is what both of y'all. You and you, yeah,
that's it and knew it.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, distracted from the hunt o Lympkey question, because
that's why it started.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Why did sign onunt Olymphy? That way it starts?
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Well, then you said what was sensical? These things want?
You want them to make sense?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
And I just questioned about the ninety million dollar corners
You never play, okay, l Boogie, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
So there you go, there you go.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
But I mean, we they began this season right knowing
that they were going to be short at corner right
for a while. Yes, they knew they were going to
add the injuries and guys were not gonna bed. So
how do you then trade your pass rusher? Like the
only way to cover up for that is to have
a pass rush?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
True? Yeah, man, so you talk about nonsensical. There you go.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Well, in large part is what you say is because
the guy that they hired likes to play a four
man pass rush. Yes, he didn't like to create and
scheme pressure. He didn't like to even though they say
he can, but he didn't like to.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
There's no steel curtain around here to do that. Yes,
there's no Warren Sap and Booger McFarlane. The pieces you
need to do this that they're not there.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
There's no Purple People leader.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
No, there's no Purple People leaders. There's no fearsome forsome.
So Derek Brooks, right, right, right, there's issues. There's issues here.
So that's always been one of my things about people
want to run.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
These But but the guy was here for seven years.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
What the hell they win?
Speaker 6 (39:51):
When he was here, they knew. I'm just saying they
knew what his scheme was going to be. How do
you hire somebody because they'd either not have the personnel
or get him the personnel.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Because you love familiar they did it. I mean, zim
Zim's whole thing is big people up front and what
we see people. I mean, so this is they like familiarity. Yeah,
so you asked the question.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
I kept saying, all that is familiar. How's that.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
We're gonna end it? We're getting too nigid.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Yeah, let's get Joques three more Nick three?
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Thank you? Thank you? By the way, who you got tonight?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
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Speaker 1 (40:29):
I can't stay in caler Murray. I wouldn't you know,
positive Murray?
Speaker 8 (40:35):
You know?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Five interceptions to night.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
In your Devin Street he's gonna throw enough ball.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Devon Street, and that ain't much better that what we
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