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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It's Friday.
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now, that's the way to kick off a fabulous fight
song football State Championship Friday. And welcome to a special
edition of mix Shots. Special two hours early edition of
mix Shots, so you got extra time to listen to
it again. That's today as we get you ready for Wow,
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what a football weekend this is. They got kickstarted last
night with the first with the first got it got
free kickstarted last.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Night Bill with the first catch free kick since nineteen
seventy six, A successful one anyway in high school or no, in.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
The game, Yeah, in the game that night. Yeah. I
want to, I want to. I want to make their confused.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Making I watched like way at the end, so you
didn't see the halftime Now free Kike. Okay, we'll get
to that. And we've got a college football playoff that
kicks off tonight and the state championship weekend continues at
at and T Stadium. We've already had two days of
it in two big days ahead, and so here we go.
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We're ready for it.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
And then on Sunday the senior the senior team plays.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That's right, the senior pros.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
You know what that?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
By the way, So where I go get my haircut?
They had this old picture of the nineteen sixty three
All American team. Wow, so Roger Staubach was on it. Okay,
they had Dick Butkus listed as a guard. Really it
had a g at it right. I don't know if
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they understood linebackers back then.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
I thought it was. Maybe it was.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
It was still a little running back too, I know,
I remember that, or maybe high school.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
This was a college alums College Illinois, so maybe Illin
maybe Buckus was so good he.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Was still playing one platoon.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
He was still playing one platoon football platoons.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Which reminded me that year. So it had been the
sixty four, well that was the sixty three team. They
were probably still drafting for sixty four and sixty three,
I think, because they were doing it in November. Gaiale
Sayers and Dick Buckets for the Bears. Wow, oh wow
in one year.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Which, by the way, speaking of one platoon, two platoon football,
we just and we didn't talk about this on Monday,
but we did have a Heisman Trophy ceremony last Saturday
night and Travis Hunter won it. And being a two
way player, it reminded me of one of the great
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two way college players who wound up becoming a Pro
Football Hall of Famer with the Dallas Cowboys. So who
would I be talking about if a guy who played
offense and defense in college, drafted by the Cowboys became
a Pro Football Hall of Famer Cowboys And I'm talking
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way back to the sixties. Mel Renfro, that's exactly right, Yeah,
and so what do I win? So Travis Hunter in
many ways was like mel Renfro. If you watch Travis Hunter,
that's what mel Renfro was like.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Or does he have that kind of speed.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Though, well I'm not not anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Does he talk about Olympic speed?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Talking about.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Uh that Olympic speed? Yeah he was, and he was
like jump or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I've got look it all up in a second. But
you talk about a phenomenal athlete who wound up playing
corner and safety in the National Football League, and I
think they used him a little bit on offense early on.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
He was awfully good. As a matter of fact, do returns. Yeah,
I don't know why this reminded me, but he told
the story when we talked about coming to the Cowboys
that they played. They played, I want to say it
was a regular season game at the Cotton Bowl, and
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he was able to get special dispensation so his parents
didn't have to sit in the black section really of
the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
O Cotton Bow.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Yeah, they got to sit like where all the white
folks sat.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Oh wow, that's that's nice. I'm sure they were comfortable.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
You're sitting in the seats for the goal line to
the end line.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
That was.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
It just kind of reminds us nineteen sixty three in Dallas,
Texas and Renfro.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm just looking it up real quick. When he was
in high school, he had lived in Houston and then
the family moved to Portland and it was on a
phenomenal high school team. But in high school at Jefferson
High School in Portland, as a junior, he won the
one to eighty low hurdles, the one twenty high hurdles,
breaking the state record and the broad jump state titles.
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Nineteen sixty he brought two. Yeah, broad jump. He broke
two Oregon Junior AAU championship records. One twenty high hurdles
thirteen point nine seconds, nineteen point three one eighty low hurdles,
twenty four foot broad jump, which.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
By the way, that's back when men were men running
high and low, right, I.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Had to do it myself. It was the three hundred
lows and the highs or.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Something, okay, and that Oregon he excelled for the track
team and as a two way football player in All
American halfback and defensive back.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
So which way do you think Hunter, Travis Hunter plays
in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Where's the money?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Wide receiver? Well it now is, but now maybe cornerback.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, well, I mean it was at cornerback, and now
the cornerback money hasn't caught up here in the last year.
The wide receiver money got up in the thirty five
million dollars a year range, and the corners just haven't
had a chance to catch up yet. And so it'll
be interesting to see.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
I can't remember who answered the questions. Somebody with the
Cowboys or just another former NFL player was guessing or
coach was guessing cornerback that wide receiver would take up
too much of his time. Maybe I don't know, does
that make sense?
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Or yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
I think the wide receiver plays, you know, a little
bit more complicated because as a in the secondary right
with the team.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah, you're in with the teams. That's easy, you know,
you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
He's pretty good, I think. I think initially you go
cornerback and then you work him in at wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Did Yeah, there's a lot of plays.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean, you've got a great example of you got
a great example of it. When Dion came here, of course,
he was already established as a Pro Bowl cornerback in
the league, but he had played he was playing baseball, okay,
even when the Cowboys signed him up and through the
first month of the season. Then he gets he comes
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to the Cowboys in October, and obviously he goes and
plays cornerback, and by the end of the season he
was getting a decent number of snaps at wide receiver too.
In the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
In the Super Bowl and then the next year when
Michael was suspended. They needed him at wide receiver too,
and if you remember towards the end of the season,
they kind of ran out in ninety six, they ran
out of wide receivers and he was doing both. Michael
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got hurt in that game and Dion playing wide receiver
I think, ended up fracturing his eye socket in the game.
So there was Troy without most of his wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
So if there was ever a coach that Travis Hunter
needed to play.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
For, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
And so I still got to get back to this, this.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Award that he did not get.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, right, the Thorpe Award.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
So who ended up getting that?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Use was it the Texas TB Baron?
Speaker 8 (09:59):
I don't remember the Texas TV. Yes, and I'm sure
he's a great athlete. But for Hunter not to be
even considered for that Jim th Up Award.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, somebody's got to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Man.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I mean, this guy could have had he could have
had a three for three, you know, he could have
had a three for three, and I just think that's
a damn shame and no one's even asking, like, you know,
what happened? What happened? It's like, Okay, well, he's got enough.
He should get everything that he's deserved.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
They spread it out.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I don't know what's going on with that.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Well, that interception, which was the game. He made the
interception at the goal line to kind of save the
day for Colorado. He came off his guy to pick
the ball and it basically saved the game. Uh, the
instincts to do that is incredible to me.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's like Honey Badger coming out of l s U.
And I remember watching Tyron Matthew at the combine h
and it was dB drills, but he looked like a
wide receiver his ball skills and it was little wonder
that he was a turnover machine on defense at LSU
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coming up?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Has it been for him though?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
He's it's probably thirteen years in the.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
League or so, at least double digit, at least ten.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean, and and a guy that would have been
a first round draft pick and fell to the third
round anyway.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Well, and for you know, good reason, probably by the way.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I remember winds up playing over a decade in the league.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I remember when he came to the Senior Bowl and
he hadn't been playing. He got suspended I think at
LSU and So it was Sunday of the conference championship games,
and we had gotten there early so we can watch
the games. And we were at a place watching on TV,
restaurant bar type place, and he comes wa fucking in, right,
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he's got in. He's got on a hat kind of
pulled almost down to his eyes. He's got in dark shades, right,
and some bulky jacket with baggy ass pants. Right. And
he comes walking by. Well, and he wasn't because in
that room in the back were all the scout bunch
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of scouts and everything. And he goes walking in there, right,
And Alonso Highsmith was working scout for maybe I don't
remember somebody, right. He had already played for the Cowboys,
so I knew him. And he came walking in and
went in the back, and he came back and uh,
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he saw us and said high and everything. And he
sat down and I said, so, what did you think
of the honey Badger?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
He said.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
I told him, under no uncertain terms, you are no
longer the honey Badger. You better get yourself straight and
don't come walking in here like a hudlum with all
these scouts here, because they're going to control your your
your history now, and he goes, I just couldn't believe
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he had sense to walk in looking like that, just
like that.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
If he's child to be incognito, he's yeah, he failed and.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Worse than.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Looked like the guy yeah, and looked like the guy
that got suspended.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And it was twenty thirteen, was his draft here, so
he's now twelve years in the NFL, and it was
I want to say it was Patrick Peterson's dad who
kind of took him under his wing and got him
on the right track and and he went. And wasn't
coincidence then that Arizona was the team that drafted him
in the third round, that's quote unquote because that's where
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Peterson was. Yeah, And so all right, the fair catch
free kick, So Mickey, it was at the end of
the first half.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
So okay, And I'm glad you brought it up, because
when I was driving in, they were getting ready to
interview McCarthy this morning on the fan from the segment
and they said, we're going to ask Kim if he
knew anything about the free kick, and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, of course he does.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Okay, Okay, I do. I love that you brought this up,
Kirk herb Street, No, I think now on Amazon they've
got the crowd. At least on my TV, the crowd
noise is up to a level that it's hard to
hear the announcer. Yeah, but I think, and someone correct
(14:34):
me if I'm wrong on this, and I apologize if
I'm wrong on this. I think what happened on it
it was the fair catch, and there was a penalty
on it. There was interference on it, and so there
was a penalty that was tacked onto it. So there
was a little bit of a delay for the Chargers
to make that decision, and it got them into a
position with the penalty that it was a fifty seven
yard field goal, a makeable field goal. And I think
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during that delay, herber Street actually asked the question, sin
does Harball know the rule?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
He did? He did? He did?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Okay, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I didn't hear things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I could not believe.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
He said that for the same reason that you're you're
saying that about McCarthy knowing the rule. I know the rule.
How does an NFL head coach not know the rule?
And what was what's hilarious about it? Now? In Harbaugh's
postgame interview. First off, who was the last team to
even attempt a fair catch free kick?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
It eight?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, that was the last one to make one seventy six.
The last one to attempt one, Cowboys was Jim Harball.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
With the San Francisco forty.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I swear, but but then in the postgame press conference,
Harball of course was asked about it, and he said
it's his favorite NFL rule.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
It's a great one. I could swear the Cowboys, I.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Said, but I could not back on Herb Street. I
could not believe Herb Street even uttered that, And then
I thought, you know what, that's typical buck guy. The
buck guy doesn't think the Michigan man. The buck guy
doesn't think the Michigan man knows.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Do you remember it? I mean, if I saw it
in the NFL, it had to be the Cowboys. I
could swear Tom tried it and it was a ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't recall it, Douglas.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I'm just surprised that this hasn't come up more often.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Because I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know
the rule, especially in this so.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know where we learned the rule. I think more
than anything. I think it was a parcels press conference.
No more, I learned more football listed the parcels press conferences.
But anyway, Douglas Barrick Douglas Barrick Loow texted me, uh, says,
I remember Landry trying a fair catch free kick before
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halftime in the eighties with Raffael's sept the end. Yes,
it was a very long hits.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
So you had to be there and it was long.
It didn't come close, but it was going to be
like sixty five seventy yards I think. But they called
the fair catch, and everybody's going, what are they doing?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Why they call a fair catch?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
And I'm going, because he gets to get a free
kick here, Like.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
I do not recall a free kick. I do not
recall every kick.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Every time that there is a punch situation at the
end of the half like that. That's that's what goes
through my mind. Call a fair catch, yeah, because it is.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I mean, think about Aubrey.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I mean, he kicks the ball seventy yards before for
a touchback right, and you get a free run at it?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
So why not?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I mean, but you got it truly truly with a
kicker like Aubrey, whether it's into the half, into the game,
the posing teams have to be thinking about it.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It has to be into the half end of the game. Yeah,
that's right, that's the only time you get it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, I never really thought about a free kick.
I swear I never thought about a free kick, and
so I've been in the game where there was.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I'm pretty sure because if I saw it, it was
to be eighty four. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It's been tried at numerous times, but the last one
to make it was nineteen seventy six Ray Worshing, who
was an Austrian kicker. But as you know, Mickey, he
was not the first Austrian kicker in the national football
I know that, okay, Yeah, and that was Tony Fridge,
that's right, in nineteen seventy one with the calviny Australian, Austrian, Australia, Australia.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
That's why ever said I said that, you know it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Mickey Eversin doesn't know it because he thinks he's Australia.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I talk with Australia. All right.
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Speaker 4 (21:53):
Okay, let's clear it up from the last second, let's
do that. On the freekick. You can do the freekick
at any point you're in the game. It's not just
when time has expired at the end of a half
or end of a game, or sort.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Of like the NFL limiting when you can on sidekick
now only in the fourth quarter, right in the fourth Yeah, yeah,
I got a question.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yes, has a question.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
If say Aubrey lines up for a fair catch free
kick and it's like an eighty yarder, does that count
as a field goal, as the longest field goal in
the NFL history. If it's a free kick, does.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
That make sense? Yeah, because he could probably make it.
Speaker 12 (22:36):
I don't especially especially if it's a because there's no rush,
you can make.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
It lower to the ground.
Speaker 12 (22:41):
That's so if he makes like say say he goes
he lines up for a seventy yarder, which would be
the NFL record, and he does it through a fair
catch free kick. Is that considered the longest field goal NFL?
I think so because there's no rush, that's why.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
But I wouldn't like that. Here's what I think it
should be used.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
There are times when we waste a lot of time
if you're down by two scores and you waste a
whole lot of time trying to score a touchdown, when
sometimes you can just kick that damn field goal and
now you can be strategic, which.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Is what the Broncos did at the end of the
game last night. They as soon as Peyton got in
field goal range in a minute left, were down ten,
and as soon as they got in field goal range,
he kicked at fifty something.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Well, Washington against the Yeah, it's like second or third.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Could just recall it should be done a lot more often,
because there are times when you're wasting all of your
timeouts and precious time to get to get that touchdown. Man,
just get the field goal right quick. Okay, now let's
do something on sidekick on side.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You're even saying, how about doing it with three minutes
left where you're not in a position where you have
to unsite where you you got a team backed up
and they're putting out of their own end zone. They
get it out to the fifty rather than returning it right,
just go ahead and fair catch it right there. Okay,
get you and get your three points.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Get it out of the way, because we always spend
this time, and we we spend precious time. Next thing,
you start off with a minute. Next thing you know,
you're down to twenty seconds and you score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I guarantee, I guarantee you. There have been times when
I've watched my team play and I've thought, let's just
let's just fair catch and free kick because we aren't
moving the ball on offense at.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
You you haven't moved it, like you said about.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That often this season with my Oklahoma team.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
But I mean it could. It could apply to so
many different situations. It shouldn't be something that odd, you know,
it should be something that's normal.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
All right, now, moving.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
On settled all that is there a game on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
There is a game on Sunday. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are
coming here, and big game for them, big.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Game for the Cowboys, obviously for the Cowboys, right they
can't lose otherwise they're done.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Hopefully it'll be a big game for the Cowboys. And
for it to be a big game for the Cowboys, Washington,
Washington has to lose to Philadelphia Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Is it a noon or three?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I think it's noon, but I'll check it out.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
That'd be nice so we can know something.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Well, that would be a downer to have to go
play a game when you know, now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
How about three games every week?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Right, that's the way it's going to be. Yeah, and
it's our own fault.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, I remember during those five and eleven years,
Brad and Babe would be lamenting the fact that we
got to call two games here at the end of
the season that don't mean anything. At that time, I
was doing Ranger games and they'd be out of it
by August first. Try and call it sixty games that
don't mean anything.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Well, that's where Brad turns into a comedian.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well, yeah, and I just.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Listened to it for the sarcast.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
What do you think's worse like losing the last game
of the season or the first round of the playoffs,
and all of a sudden everything comes to screeching or
knowing in mid December that it's halted. That's the worst
that is, right, because I always thought that, you know,
you go one hundred miles an hour and then all
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of a sudden the season stops because you lost that
last game. But knowing you had to play it through
like eighty nine.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Well that's when you start thinking of, well, I better
keep playing because someone might be watching. Yeah, so that
the incentive is still there, you know, but I you know,
when you're talking about class of eighty nine, it wasn't
a lot of people, except it was a lot of
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people would allowed different options.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
And a lot of we're going to be there anyway
before where were you looking up?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It is a Eagles Commanders at noon on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
So I can watch that before I Washington.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It is in Washington, that's right over Maryland.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
They're only away game is Cowboy. Well, if they win,
they clinched the NFC.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Well, and the other thing is they're now in the
hunt for the Yeah, home for the bye, first round
bye because of the Lions loss. Lions are at twelve
and two, Eagles are at twelve and two, and the
Vikings are at twelve and two. Right now, the Lions
have If the season we're in right toward to end,
right now, the Lions have the tiebreaker and would get
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the first round by But that's also.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Do they have it against the Eagles. I don't know
the NFC. I bet it's the NFC, depending on who
you because that's how the Cowboys. If they tied at
nine and eight with everybody except Atlanta, the Cowboys with
the Rams, Arizona, and who's the other team that's Seattle
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get in Seattle, they would Cowboys would have a better
NFC record than all three of those teams. The unfortunate
thing it would be again more against Atlanta too. But
they got beat by Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
How did that happen?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, the quarterback got hurt. Number one? Yeah, fake punt
went all right. Number two.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Probably didn't run the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
So and then Tampa Bay Micah wasn't there, that's right,
maybe number one.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
And then Tampa Bay needs to keep winning because they're
only a game ahead of Atlanta for that division title,
and Atlanta's already beat them twice, so they can't tie.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They need to be placing their quarter Yes, I know
that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
I think it's for the best We're gonna find out.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
That's what I was going to say, We're gonna find
out because this will be that's a bold move back.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
His first start, no matter how bad badly Cousins was playing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And his first horribly not only Pennix's first start, his
first pass will be his sixth pass in the National
Football League.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Heavy run, heavy run.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well John run, that's what they've been relying on. They're
trying to incorporate a little past game and a little
quarterback run game to it too. Like maybe there haven't
been a lot of scrambled drills going on.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
That's why.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
That's why Cousins just throws it when he can. That's
his only opportunity. He's not going to scramble his way
out of it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And who's the Falcons playing?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I they have?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Why am I looking at that? Oh? They're playing the Giants.
That's right, They're playing the Giants. That's a new Yeah,
that's the reason that that's another there.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Okay, So where are you going next on this Tampa
Bay preview?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
How about the updated injury reporting?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Okay, let's do that and then we will do our
picks and more on the game.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
So the Cowboys now have just three guys did not practice,
and we knew Trayvon Diggs was one of those. Eric
Kendricks still has a calf and some personal reasons, so
he went through this last week he didn't practice and
then I think he practiced on Saturday maybe and ended
(30:47):
up playing awfully well. And Vigil. I don't think it's
practice for two months a month and with a foot,
but he has played. So TJ Bass has moved to
limit it limited limited, uh Tumadoga limited, Jordan Lewis limited,
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and Mazzy Smith went from not practicing to limited. So
that's good news. The Bucks have three guys, four guys
that haven't practiced. They're tight end Cade Otten, safety, Antoine Winfield,
left tackle.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
We'res Tristan Warps. You named three of their best players.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And the other guy was one two three, Oh that
was that. Oh Trey Palmer U was ill their wide receiver.
So the one guy that was two guys that were
did not practice on Wednesday. Uh kJ Britt linebacker moved
to limited and Mike Evans limited, one more Sterling Shepherd limited.
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So those guys it is probably.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Will end up playing. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, load managers, but they do their load management in
practice rather than in games, unlike the NBA. The Mavericks
last night did they not play players? Last night?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Irving and Dunsconce were listed as injuries.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Because they weren't playing for the NBA.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Come you know what that thousand line right? I was
watching in the fourth quarter and it was like, well,
where is every morning?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
You know? I flipped over and watched and I thought
I couldn't tell which team was whitch because I didn't
recognize any players. And then I saw Derek Lively. Okay,
so the Mavericks were in white, and the court looked different,
the team, the jersey looked different. What it was I
was watching, So I went back to football.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
They finally got it. They finally got eight to eight points,
and I'm going, Okay, this is gonna be good. And
then I'm looking around. I'm going, well, no, it's not because.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The game Yeah, uh okay, we're gonna take a break
and come back. And I just since I went looking
for the schedule ever since I saw today's schedule, and
I just realized why we're on at ten am today
instead of noon, and that's because there's a bowl game
at eleven. Jacksonville State is yeah, Ohio, and so Mickey
(33:33):
didn't want to do so well at Jacksonville State. Was
going on, all right, that's shots.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
In just a moment, they probably could beat Jackson State.
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Speaker 6 (36:16):
Of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And when we're going to find that out, I think
they do it before the Super Bowl because that person
gets a free trip. Whoever wins, I believe.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
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Speaker 7 (36:29):
Where are we tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Cool wins?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Where are we tomorrow? The omni Okay, no, I thought
it was. It's not in on legacy.
Speaker 12 (36:39):
Let me see we're on the Yeah, we're there to
back you up to the Fan of the year. All
fans of the year for each team do go to
the Super Bowl and they announce the Fan of the
Year at NFL Honors.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
But they all get to go. They free get to go.
They get a free trip to the super Bowl. Yes,
so we're next door tomorrow at one fifteen. Okay is
that what you said? Okay?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Toy? Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
So you're doing that at one fifteen to.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
One file, so that first game is not going to
be over with. I bet by.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Time we you're talking about the Coast Football Playoff SMU
and Ben States. Boy, that's a tough what. It's snowing
there too, snowing at Notre Dame too, South Bend.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
But Notre Dame doesn't have one hundred and eight thousand people.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
They got touchdown. Jesus though.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
That makes up for thirty thousand.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Waite Bill said that this sound is so honymous.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Jesus.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
The big Man's Big Man.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Babe Laffenburg sent me a text last night. He's in Chicago.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I heard he went.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
He sent me a text he's got an Indiana letter
jacket on. And then I woke up this morning and
I Notre Dame and tweeted out picture of the stadium,
snow covered stadium with a snowman. And I texted him
back and said, I hope you got a lot of
layers under that Indiana letter jacket.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
But the entire Great Lakes area it's just all snowed up.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, And so I thought I was thinking, Okay, they
started this first round college football playoff at home stadiums
on December nineteenth and twentieth or whatever the date is.
And I'm like, well, yeah, you deserve that if you
got to start at that lake. And then so that
I looked, they should have started this like the first
weekend in December, and I looked up South Bend. The
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temperature today the temperature is up to thirty five and snow.
Well two weeks ago it was the highway was twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
We gotten mat it did make it any and South
Bend is like gets all the backwash from Lake Michigan.
M okay, because we used to get it before Lake
Michigan growing up, and then they got it afterwards.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
So I believe I spent with two teams. I'm sitting
on the Great Lakes. That's tough, man. Never thought i'd
be doing that.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
So uh And in Penn State that's in the twenties
probably tomorrow, okay, so ever since? Is it a home
field advantage for teams that are in the northern climbs
these days? Is it a home field advantage for those
players playing in twenty degrees against the team from the south.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
I agree, yeah, I do. Okay, Well, did it help
you think it did well?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
I've never oh yeah, well when I played up in
Cleveland or when I played in New York. Yes, so
you were oh it's cold, okay, Well yeah, yeah, we
felt we felt like and the crowd too, seemed to
get more involved in the game.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
You know, when the weather seemed to be on our.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Site, the exhaust come out.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah, but I don't know what it is, but they
seem to have a lot more energy because you know,
the fans, they get into that. I think the fans
like the cold better than the players like the cold.
It seems like they enjoyed Well, I'm with you now,
but once again, we're down here.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
The ones up there, they're.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Accustomed to that, and I think that they really do
believe that that gives them an edge.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I'm just thinking they don't practice in it, right, They
just live in it, and living in it is not
playing in it.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
But to me, it seems to that they seemed to
work out in the home team's favor.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
It seems to work out almost every time.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
And of course, unless you got another cold team cold
weather team coming in. But if you're talking about Miami
going up to Buffalo, then we know what that's about.
You're talking about San Diego going up to play in
Cincinnati and it's minus fifty six degrees.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, and in that case, it's like the team is
built the way the team is put together throwing the
football with Dan fouts or you know, in the case
of Dolphins now with Tua and Tyreek and speak great
winners negated. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
So come on, so before we do our picks, you're
the defensive coordinator. What are you doing with Mike Evans?
Speaker 6 (41:11):
I got a double.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Team in many in key situations, okay, in key situations.
Every team has their tendencies. And if I see a
particular formation, or if I anticipate a particular situation that
to where I know they're going to go to them,
then yes, I'm going to consider at least at least
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favoring a safety or a linebacker to his side at least.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
But other times, would you, I mean, think about it.
The Cowboys are down cornerback.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Yeah, well they better, they better know how to play safe.
Just the way we played against I can't remember the
team that we just ended up playing against, and they
were throwing all of the sideline routes, throwing all the
out routes. You have to minimize the damage backs. You
gotta minimize the damage. If you know that your cornerback
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is someone that's coming off a practice field going against
this guy future.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Hall of Famer, then he's got a back off.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
He's got a back off. Well, I mean, if you
feel like you can get up in this grill. But
here's what you have to do. Regardless of what your
technique is, your mindset has to be. There are certain
plays I can't give up and certain ones that I
have to give up. So if you're looking at those
out routes, you gotta give up the outside routes. And
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I don't mean the outside routes all the way down
the field. I'm not talking about nine you know, going
on the ninth route.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
That's outside as well.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
I'm talking about keeping everything to a minimum so that
we can live to play another down.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Okay, you have.
Speaker 8 (42:46):
To do that with Big T because if you saw
the game, the one we just lost with the punt,
we were just talking about it as Cincinnati Cincinnati, you
realize how many deep sidelines we gave up, but we
stayed in the game.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Was still in the game. We still didn't give up
a bunch of touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
We kept it to the deep outs, anything that tried
to come inside. We were strong inside, just the way
we always played it. With the flex, you have to
do that while you're concentrating on playing the run. You
can't do both simultaneously, well, especially with this show.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Do you think when I watched Tampa Bay play and
I see Evans uncovered blown coverage, Yeah, yeah, I mean
I've never seen a guy that's so good, so wide open.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Well, I mean when you look at us, we tend
to have some blown coverages.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
As well, but these were for touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Yeah yeah, and well we did touch shot.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
I saw it.
Speaker 8 (43:45):
So my point is we have to make sure. First
of all, we can't have wild open all over the place,
but we have to make sure that we stay within
the scheme of the defense. Don't get greedy. Don't get greedy.
If you can make a play, of course, the play
is there to be made.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
We don't.
Speaker 8 (44:01):
There's a there's a fine line be playing between playing
safely and not playing well at all. There's a fine
line between that.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
You got, I.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Shouldn't pick Deron Bland from my pick to click.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Now, Deron Bland is the man I'm talking about. These
other cornerbacks well.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
He's got to go find them, I think.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Do you think, well, we're not sure necessarily if he's
going to be traveling.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
Because they do have a couple of other decent wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
Yes, yes they do, because I saw so. If you
think about it, when the Cowboys played that NFC title
game against San Francisco the ninety fours, they they were
gonna put they were gonna put double on Michael Irvin
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and let Dion take out Taylor. No, no, no on
the Cowboy. Dion was with San francska. Okay, he's taking
and our Elvin Harper. And then the second half started
and that wasn't working. So they put Dion on Michael
and that didn't work either. But that's the way they
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That's right, I saw. You know, there's two ways to
do it. You're doubling the best guy and then singling
take that guy out with somebody else. Be interested to
see how they treat that.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Okay, y'all ready for your picks. Okay, ever, since you're
up first.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
Well, I like to know what we what we need
to do before I tell you what we're gonna do. Okay, Well,
what we need to do. I think we need to
stop the run. I think that's gonna be our number
one goal. That's what's made us I think a better
defense in the last i'd say four or five games
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is the fact that we have concentrated on the run
and we I think we have sacrifice to pass just
to bed. So I'm still going with my line backers.
One of my linebackers as our you know what, I'm
not going linebacker since we talked about him. So take
my guy Osa. I'm taking Osa. I'm taking with at
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least i'd say at least three quarterback hits. Okay, I
wanted to get a sack. Gotta be nice if he
got a fumble recovery. But I'm not doing all of that.
So I'm looking for us to play the run very well.
We're going to give up some on the past. It's
going to give up. We're going to give up some scores.
But I still look at us winning. It's going to
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be a tight game. Guys, twenty eight to twenty four.
He almost Cowboys win almost dowenty eight.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Twenty eight, twenty four and Osha.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Ulsa with a sack, and I want to least three quarterback.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Hits because because I tell you I'm actually going to
raakage down.
Speaker 8 (46:54):
Fakage Baker Mayfield. You know, when you flush him out
of that pocket, it's feast of fa He'll take some chance,
He'll take some chances.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Okay, Mickey, what do you got?
Speaker 7 (47:05):
So I got a cake? Get off of Osa? Now
you don't have that was gonna be my pick. I'm
taking OSA. Okay, And I got I just wrote it
down before you even said it. Twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Oh wow, okay, how about that?
Speaker 6 (47:21):
All right?
Speaker 7 (47:21):
Great minds? Now what you're saying? Well, first off, and
I was gonna say, and the winning field goal is
Brandon ha Haarbury from seventy yards.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
There you go on the Freaki on the frea kid, Okay,
I got nothing.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
I got nothing else that was mine.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
I figured that.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Rafael's Septi inn, by the way, narrowly missed a rare
free kick from fifty three yards away with twenty two
seconds left, giving the Houston Oilers a seventeen fourteen victory
over the Dallas Cowboys Saturday night at Irving, Texas. This
was the final preseason game of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
S there, so there was it was a preseason preseason.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Game in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
Who found that?
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I looked it up.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
No, who found it?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Who found it? It was a it's a La Times story.
I googled it and it's in the La Times archive
from nineteen eighty six. Danny White drove Dallas toward a
potential winning touchdown before fumbling a snap from center that
was recovered by Houston, and then they punted the ball
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back with twenty two seconds left. Danny White was still
in the game. And it wasn't the fourth preseason game.
It was the fifth preseason game of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
They played the All American or the Hall of Fame Game.
No No, in London, Oh.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
In nineteen eighty six. I's tried. They were the American
American Bowl Game. Yeah, in London, that's right. Anyway, Uh,
what was the Cowboys record that preseason that preseason?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
Yep, five games five games, two and three.
Speaker 13 (49:13):
One and four oh and five, which goes to show
it doesn't mean anything because you started off six and two.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Yeah, but we sucked eventually sucked.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
With the number one offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
So I'm going with uh, Baker Mayfield, as you've alluded
to has a propensity to especially coming off a four
touchdown game with no picks.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
He's good about him.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah, but he's due to throw in a couple more picks,
and it's Deron Bland is going to have at least
one pick, and I'm thinking probably two picks. That's a game, Okay,
it's going to go right down to the wire, and
the Buccaneers are going to be forced to punt from
deep in their own into the field. Had uh fair
catch much even though Cavante wants to return it. He
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will return this Even though he wants to return it,
They're gonna Fossil Is gonna figure out a way to
convince him to fair catch it. He's gonna show him
this video of what happened in the Charger game on
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
And I don't think it will.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Be Brandon Aubrey's with a You said seventy yard, okay,
I'll go seventy one.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Yard yeah, free kick?
Speaker 4 (50:29):
He get free kick, yeah, to win the game. Twenty
seven twenty four. Man, So I got twenty seven twenty four.
You got twenty seven to twenty four. You got twenty
eight twenty four. So there you go. That's what's gonna
happen to kick to wrap up a sensational football weekend.
Speaker 7 (50:46):
So it wouldn't have worked in the Cincinnati game if
they didn't block the punt because he's probably catching it
at the twenty yard line.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
So that's a little that's asking. He can kick it
eighty with a running start, but maybe not accurate.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Okay, real quick before we go, uh, Notre Dame Indiana,
who wins? And tonight you got Indiana?
Speaker 6 (51:09):
Man, I love that running game.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Indiana wins all road running.
Speaker 7 (51:12):
I can't. I can't pull for a Notre Dame SMU.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Penn State.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
Ah, my heart says SMU. Your head, but that weather
says Penn State.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Okay, I'm with him. All rights and Texas play at
three o'clock tomorrow. I got Texas, Texas, Texas.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
Wait, what are you're not participating?
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I'll go Notre Dame, I'll go s m U and
I'll go Texas. And then Tennessee plays Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (51:41):
Tennessee, Yeah, Tennessee. Tennessee's looking to go at Thehose State.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
I go Ohio State, okay.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
In the Big House. And then Oregon, Oh no.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
The eyes okay, so that's uh. And then finally South
Oak Cliff Highlight in Park, South Lake, Carrol, and North Crowley. Okay,
these are just the five A and six A. How
many state champions come out of here? Four?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
All?
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Four?
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Let's go all right?
Speaker 6 (52:14):
So we we'll do it all right?
Speaker 7 (52:16):
Also, Dallas, that's right.
Speaker 6 (52:18):
Very good. You notice my I'm checking you out, my
Carrol Dragon.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Second, okay, that's where I'm going to be tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
After three o'clock.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to work.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
You know what what I did to help get that
coach hired at age twenty nine? Dolly, I'm going to
be there if he wins the state champion. You're going
to be on the sideline as the mayor of South Lake.
By the way, are those games on so many broadcasts?
Speaker 7 (52:42):
They're on fan duel? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (52:45):
That which used to be bally Sports? Okay, but okay,
the difference is now if you get if you got
Bally Sports on direct TV, then you have access to
or whatever. If not, which I don't, you can pay
for the stream.
Speaker 7 (53:03):
It's a monthly deal. You can pay twenty to twenty five,
so it's.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
It's twenty dollars and you it's a month to month
deal where you can cancel it.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Yeah, because all that fan duel has now is at
least on I went to look it up. They have
high school football playoff state championship games and they got WNBA.
That's all. So when the WNBA season, Mickey starts, you
can I like the well that's what I'm saying. You
can wait until the season starts and then you can
subscribe again. Yeah, all right, does it have a great
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Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now, that's the way to kick off a fabulous fight
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what a football weekend this is. They got kickstarted last
night with the first with the first got it got
free kickstarted last.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Night Bill with the first catch free kick since nineteen
seventy six, A successful one anyway in high school or no, in.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
The game, Yeah, in the game that night. Yeah. I
want to, I want to. I want to make their confused.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Making I watched like way at the end, so you
didn't see the halftime Now free Kike. Okay, we'll get
to that. And we've got a college football playoff that
kicks off tonight and the state championship weekend continues at
at and T Stadium. We've already had two days of
it in two big days ahead, and so here we go.
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We're ready for it.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
And then on Sunday the senior the senior team plays.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
That's right, the senior pros.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
You know what that?
Speaker 6 (02:28):
You know?
Speaker 7 (02:29):
By the way, So where I go get my haircut?
They had this old picture of the nineteen sixty three
All American team. Wow, so Roger Staubach was on it. Okay,
they had Dick Butkus listed as a guard. Really it
had a g at it right. I don't know if
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they understood linebackers back then.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
I thought it was. Maybe it was.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
It was still a little running back too, I know,
I remember that, or maybe high school.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
This was a college alums College Illinois, so maybe Illin
maybe Buckus was so good he.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Was still playing one platoon.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
He was still playing one platoon football platoons.
Speaker 7 (03:14):
Which reminded me that year. So it had been the
sixty four, well that was the sixty three team. They
were probably still drafting for sixty four and sixty three,
I think, because they were doing it in November. Gaiale
Sayers and Dick Buckets for the Bears. Wow, oh wow
in one year.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Which, by the way, speaking of one platoon, two platoon football,
we just and we didn't talk about this on Monday,
but we did have a Heisman Trophy ceremony last Saturday
night and Travis Hunter won it. And being a two
way player, it reminded me of one of the great
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two way college players who wound up becoming a Pro
Football Hall of Famer with the Dallas Cowboys. So who
would I be talking about if a guy who played
offense and defense in college, drafted by the Cowboys became
a Pro Football Hall of Famer Cowboys And I'm talking
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way back to the sixties. Mel Renfro, that's exactly right, Yeah,
and so what do I win? So Travis Hunter in
many ways was like mel Renfro. If you watch Travis Hunter,
that's what mel Renfro was like.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Or does he have that kind of speed.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Though, well I'm not not anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Does he talk about Olympic speed?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Talking about.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Uh that Olympic speed? Yeah he was, and he was
like jump or something like that.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I've got look it all up in a second. But
you talk about a phenomenal athlete who wound up playing
corner and safety in the National Football League, and I
think they used him a little bit on offense early on.
Speaker 7 (05:12):
He was awfully good. As a matter of fact, do returns. Yeah,
I don't know why this reminded me, but he told
the story when we talked about coming to the Cowboys
that they played. They played, I want to say it
was a regular season game at the Cotton Bowl, and
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he was able to get special dispensation so his parents
didn't have to sit in the black section really of
the Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:47):
O Cotton Bow.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
Yeah, they got to sit like where all the white
folks sat.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Oh wow, that's that's nice. I'm sure they were comfortable.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
You're sitting in the seats for the goal line to
the end line.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
That was.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
It just kind of reminds us nineteen sixty three in Dallas,
Texas and Renfro.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I'm just looking it up real quick. When he was
in high school, he had lived in Houston and then
the family moved to Portland and it was on a
phenomenal high school team. But in high school at Jefferson
High School in Portland, as a junior, he won the
one to eighty low hurdles, the one twenty high hurdles,
breaking the state record and the broad jump state titles.
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Nineteen sixty he brought two. Yeah, broad jump. He broke
two Oregon Junior AAU championship records. One twenty high hurdles
thirteen point nine seconds, nineteen point three one eighty low hurdles,
twenty four foot broad jump, which.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
By the way, that's back when men were men running
high and low, right, I.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Had to do it myself. It was the three hundred
lows and the highs or.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Something, okay, and that Oregon he excelled for the track
team and as a two way football player in All
American halfback and defensive back.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
So which way do you think Hunter, Travis Hunter plays
in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Where's the money?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Wide receiver? Well it now is, but now maybe cornerback.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Yeah, well, I mean it was at cornerback, and now
the cornerback money hasn't caught up here in the last year.
The wide receiver money got up in the thirty five
million dollars a year range, and the corners just haven't
had a chance to catch up yet. And so it'll
be interesting to see.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
I can't remember who answered the questions. Somebody with the
Cowboys or just another former NFL player was guessing or
coach was guessing cornerback that wide receiver would take up
too much of his time. Maybe I don't know, does
that make sense?
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Or yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 8 (08:06):
I think the wide receiver plays, you know, a little
bit more complicated because as a in the secondary right
with the team.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah, you're in with the teams. That's easy, you know,
you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
He's pretty good, I think. I think initially you go
cornerback and then you work him in at wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Did Yeah, there's a lot of plays.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I mean, you've got a great example of you got
a great example of it. When Dion came here, of course,
he was already established as a Pro Bowl cornerback in
the league, but he had played he was playing baseball, okay,
even when the Cowboys signed him up and through the
first month of the season. Then he gets he comes
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to the Cowboys in October, and obviously he goes and
plays cornerback, and by the end of the season he
was getting a decent number of snaps at wide receiver too.
In the Super Bowl.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
In the Super Bowl and then the next year when
Michael was suspended. They needed him at wide receiver too,
and if you remember towards the end of the season,
they kind of ran out in ninety six, they ran
out of wide receivers and he was doing both. Michael
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got hurt in that game and Dion playing wide receiver
I think, ended up fracturing his eye socket in the game.
So there was Troy without most of his wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
So if there was ever a coach that Travis Hunter
needed to play.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
For, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
And so I still got to get back to this, this.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Award that he did not get.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, right, the Thorpe Award.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
So who ended up getting that?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Use was it the Texas TB Baron?
Speaker 8 (09:59):
I don't remember the Texas TV. Yes, and I'm sure
he's a great athlete. But for Hunter not to be
even considered for that Jim th Up Award.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, somebody's got to talk about that.
Speaker 6 (10:14):
Man.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
I mean, this guy could have had he could have
had a three for three, you know, he could have
had a three for three, and I just think that's
a damn shame and no one's even asking, like, you know,
what happened? What happened? It's like, Okay, well, he's got enough.
He should get everything that he's deserved.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
They spread it out.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
I don't know what's going on with that.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Well, that interception, which was the game. He made the
interception at the goal line to kind of save the
day for Colorado. He came off his guy to pick
the ball and it basically saved the game. Uh, the
instincts to do that is incredible to me.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
It's like Honey Badger coming out of l s U.
And I remember watching Tyron Matthew at the combine h
and it was dB drills, but he looked like a
wide receiver his ball skills and it was little wonder
that he was a turnover machine on defense at LSU
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coming up?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Has it been for him though?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
He's it's probably thirteen years in the.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
League or so, at least double digit, at least ten.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I mean, and and a guy that would have been
a first round draft pick and fell to the third
round anyway.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
Well, and for you know, good reason, probably by the way.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I remember winds up playing over a decade in the league.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I remember when he came to the Senior Bowl and
he hadn't been playing. He got suspended I think at
LSU and So it was Sunday of the conference championship games,
and we had gotten there early so we can watch
the games. And we were at a place watching on TV,
restaurant bar type place, and he comes wa fucking in, right,
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he's got in. He's got on a hat kind of
pulled almost down to his eyes. He's got in dark shades, right,
and some bulky jacket with baggy ass pants. Right. And
he comes walking by. Well, and he wasn't because in
that room in the back were all the scout bunch
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of scouts and everything. And he goes walking in there, right,
And Alonso Highsmith was working scout for maybe I don't
remember somebody, right. He had already played for the Cowboys,
so I knew him. And he came walking in and
went in the back, and he came back and uh,
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he saw us and said high and everything. And he
sat down and I said, so, what did you think
of the honey Badger?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
He said.
Speaker 7 (12:52):
I told him, under no uncertain terms, you are no
longer the honey Badger. You better get yourself straight and
don't come walking in here like a hudlum with all
these scouts here, because they're going to control your your
your history now, and he goes, I just couldn't believe
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he had sense to walk in looking like that, just
like that.
Speaker 8 (13:18):
If he's child to be incognito, he's yeah, he failed and.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Worse than.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
Looked like the guy yeah, and looked like the guy
that got suspended.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Right.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
And it was twenty thirteen, was his draft here, so
he's now twelve years in the NFL, and it was
I want to say it was Patrick Peterson's dad who
kind of took him under his wing and got him
on the right track and and he went. And wasn't
coincidence then that Arizona was the team that drafted him
in the third round, that's quote unquote because that's where
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Peterson was. Yeah, And so all right, the fair catch
free kick, So Mickey, it was at the end of
the first half.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
So okay, And I'm glad you brought it up, because
when I was driving in, they were getting ready to
interview McCarthy this morning on the fan from the segment
and they said, we're going to ask Kim if he
knew anything about the free kick, and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, of course he does.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Okay, Okay, I do. I love that you brought this up,
Kirk herb Street, No, I think now on Amazon they've
got the crowd. At least on my TV, the crowd
noise is up to a level that it's hard to
hear the announcer. Yeah, but I think, and someone correct
(14:34):
me if I'm wrong on this, and I apologize if
I'm wrong on this. I think what happened on it
it was the fair catch, and there was a penalty
on it. There was interference on it, and so there
was a penalty that was tacked onto it. So there
was a little bit of a delay for the Chargers
to make that decision, and it got them into a
position with the penalty that it was a fifty seven
yard field goal, a makeable field goal. And I think
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during that delay, herber Street actually asked the question, sin
does Harball know the rule?
Speaker 6 (15:04):
He did? He did? He did?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Okay, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I didn't hear things.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
I could not believe.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
He said that for the same reason that you're you're
saying that about McCarthy knowing the rule. I know the rule.
How does an NFL head coach not know the rule?
And what was what's hilarious about it? Now? In Harbaugh's
postgame interview. First off, who was the last team to
even attempt a fair catch free kick?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
It eight?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
No, that was the last one to make one seventy six.
The last one to attempt one, Cowboys was Jim Harball.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
With the San Francisco forty.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I swear, but but then in the postgame press conference,
Harball of course was asked about it, and he said
it's his favorite NFL rule.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
It's a great one. I could swear the Cowboys, I.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Said, but I could not back on Herb Street. I
could not believe Herb Street even uttered that, And then
I thought, you know what, that's typical buck guy. The
buck guy doesn't think the Michigan man. The buck guy
doesn't think the Michigan man knows.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
Do you remember it? I mean, if I saw it
in the NFL, it had to be the Cowboys. I
could swear Tom tried it and it was a ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't recall it, Douglas.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I'm just surprised that this hasn't come up more often.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's right, That's right.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Because I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know
the rule, especially in this so.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know where we learned the rule. I think more
than anything. I think it was a parcels press conference.
No more, I learned more football listed the parcels press conferences.
But anyway, Douglas Barrick Douglas Barrick Loow texted me, uh, says,
I remember Landry trying a fair catch free kick before
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halftime in the eighties with Raffael's sept the end. Yes,
it was a very long hits.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
So you had to be there and it was long.
It didn't come close, but it was going to be
like sixty five seventy yards I think. But they called
the fair catch, and everybody's going, what are they doing?
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Why they call a fair catch?
Speaker 7 (17:20):
And I'm going, because he gets to get a free
kick here, Like.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
I do not recall a free kick. I do not
recall every kick.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Every time that there is a punch situation at the
end of the half like that. That's that's what goes
through my mind. Call a fair catch, yeah, because it is.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I mean, think about Aubrey.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I mean, he kicks the ball seventy yards before for
a touchback right, and you get a free run at it?
Speaker 7 (17:49):
So why not?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I mean, but you got it truly truly with a
kicker like Aubrey, whether it's into the half, into the game,
the posing teams have to be thinking about it.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It has to be into the half end of the game. Yeah,
that's right, that's the only time you get it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 8 (18:07):
Yeah, yeah, I never really thought about a free kick.
I swear I never thought about a free kick, and
so I've been in the game where there was.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I'm pretty sure because if I saw it, it was
to be eighty four. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It's been tried at numerous times, but the last one
to make it was nineteen seventy six Ray Worshing, who
was an Austrian kicker. But as you know, Mickey, he
was not the first Austrian kicker in the national football
I know that, okay, Yeah, and that was Tony Fridge,
that's right, in nineteen seventy one with the calviny Australian, Austrian, Australia, Australia.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
That's why ever said I said that, you know it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Mickey Eversin doesn't know it because he thinks he's Australia.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I talk with Australia. All right.
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Speaker 4 (21:53):
Okay, let's clear it up from the last second, let's
do that. On the freekick. You can do the freekick
at any point you're in the game. It's not just
when time has expired at the end of a half
or end of a game, or sort.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Of like the NFL limiting when you can on sidekick
now only in the fourth quarter, right in the fourth Yeah, yeah,
I got a question.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
Yes, has a question.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
If say Aubrey lines up for a fair catch free
kick and it's like an eighty yarder, does that count
as a field goal, as the longest field goal in
the NFL history. If it's a free kick, does.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
That make sense? Yeah, because he could probably make it.
Speaker 12 (22:36):
I don't especially especially if it's a because there's no rush,
you can make.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
It lower to the ground.
Speaker 12 (22:41):
That's so if he makes like say say he goes
he lines up for a seventy yarder, which would be
the NFL record, and he does it through a fair
catch free kick. Is that considered the longest field goal NFL?
I think so because there's no rush, that's why.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
But I wouldn't like that. Here's what I think it
should be used.
Speaker 8 (23:03):
There are times when we waste a lot of time
if you're down by two scores and you waste a
whole lot of time trying to score a touchdown, when
sometimes you can just kick that damn field goal and
now you can be strategic, which.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Is what the Broncos did at the end of the
game last night. They as soon as Peyton got in
field goal range in a minute left, were down ten,
and as soon as they got in field goal range,
he kicked at fifty something.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Well, Washington against the Yeah, it's like second or third.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
Could just recall it should be done a lot more often,
because there are times when you're wasting all of your
timeouts and precious time to get to get that touchdown. Man,
just get the field goal right quick. Okay, now let's
do something on sidekick on side.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You're even saying, how about doing it with three minutes
left where you're not in a position where you have
to unsite where you you got a team backed up
and they're putting out of their own end zone. They
get it out to the fifty rather than returning it right,
just go ahead and fair catch it right there. Okay,
get you and get your three points.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
Get it out of the way, because we always spend
this time, and we we spend precious time. Next thing,
you start off with a minute. Next thing you know,
you're down to twenty seconds and you score a touchdown.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
I guarantee, I guarantee you. There have been times when
I've watched my team play and I've thought, let's just
let's just fair catch and free kick because we aren't
moving the ball on offense at.
Speaker 8 (24:35):
You you haven't moved it, like you said about.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
That often this season with my Oklahoma team.
Speaker 8 (24:41):
But I mean it could. It could apply to so
many different situations. It shouldn't be something that odd, you know,
it should be something that's normal.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
All right, now, moving.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
On settled all that is there a game on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
There is a game on Sunday. Tampa Bay Buccaneers are
coming here, and big game for them, big.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Game for the Cowboys, obviously for the Cowboys, right they
can't lose otherwise they're done.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Hopefully it'll be a big game for the Cowboys. And
for it to be a big game for the Cowboys, Washington,
Washington has to lose to Philadelphia Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Is it a noon or three?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
I think it's noon, but I'll check it out.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
That'd be nice so we can know something.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Well, that would be a downer to have to go
play a game when you know, now it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
How about three games every week?
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Right, that's the way it's going to be. Yeah, and
it's our own fault.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, yeah, I remember during those five and eleven years,
Brad and Babe would be lamenting the fact that we
got to call two games here at the end of
the season that don't mean anything. At that time, I
was doing Ranger games and they'd be out of it
by August first. Try and call it sixty games that
don't mean anything.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Well, that's where Brad turns into a comedian.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well, yeah, and I just.
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Listened to it for the sarcast.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
What do you think's worse like losing the last game
of the season or the first round of the playoffs,
and all of a sudden everything comes to screeching or
knowing in mid December that it's halted. That's the worst
that is, right, because I always thought that, you know,
you go one hundred miles an hour and then all
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of a sudden the season stops because you lost that
last game. But knowing you had to play it through
like eighty nine.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
Well that's when you start thinking of, well, I better
keep playing because someone might be watching. Yeah, so that
the incentive is still there, you know, but I you know,
when you're talking about class of eighty nine, it wasn't
a lot of people, except it was a lot of
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people would allowed different options.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
And a lot of we're going to be there anyway
before where were you looking up?
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It is a Eagles Commanders at noon on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
So I can watch that before I Washington.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It is in Washington, that's right over Maryland.
Speaker 7 (27:20):
They're only away game is Cowboy. Well, if they win,
they clinched the NFC.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Well, and the other thing is they're now in the
hunt for the Yeah, home for the bye, first round
bye because of the Lions loss. Lions are at twelve
and two, Eagles are at twelve and two, and the
Vikings are at twelve and two. Right now, the Lions
have If the season we're in right toward to end,
right now, the Lions have the tiebreaker and would get
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the first round by But that's also.
Speaker 7 (27:51):
Do they have it against the Eagles. I don't know
the NFC. I bet it's the NFC, depending on who
you because that's how the Cowboys. If they tied at
nine and eight with everybody except Atlanta, the Cowboys with
the Rams, Arizona, and who's the other team that's Seattle
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get in Seattle, they would Cowboys would have a better
NFC record than all three of those teams. The unfortunate
thing it would be again more against Atlanta too. But
they got beat by Atlanta.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
How did that happen?
Speaker 7 (28:29):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, the quarterback got hurt. Number one? Yeah, fake punt
went all right. Number two.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Probably didn't run the ball.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
So and then Tampa Bay Micah wasn't there, that's right,
maybe number one.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
And then Tampa Bay needs to keep winning because they're
only a game ahead of Atlanta for that division title,
and Atlanta's already beat them twice, so they can't tie.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
They need to be placing their quarter Yes, I know
that's crazy.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
I think it's for the best We're gonna find out.
Speaker 8 (29:08):
That's what I was going to say, We're gonna find
out because this will be that's a bold move back.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
His first start, no matter how bad badly Cousins was playing.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
And his first horribly not only Pennix's first start, his
first pass will be his sixth pass in the National
Football League.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Heavy run, heavy run.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Well John run, that's what they've been relying on. They're
trying to incorporate a little past game and a little
quarterback run game to it too. Like maybe there haven't
been a lot of scrambled drills going on.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
That's why.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
That's why Cousins just throws it when he can. That's
his only opportunity. He's not going to scramble his way
out of it.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
And who's the Falcons playing?
Speaker 7 (29:59):
I they have?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Why am I looking at that? Oh? They're playing the Giants.
That's right, They're playing the Giants. That's a new Yeah,
that's the reason that that's another there.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
Okay, So where are you going next on this Tampa
Bay preview?
Speaker 7 (30:20):
How about the updated injury reporting?
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Okay, let's do that and then we will do our
picks and more on the game.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
So the Cowboys now have just three guys did not practice,
and we knew Trayvon Diggs was one of those. Eric
Kendricks still has a calf and some personal reasons, so
he went through this last week he didn't practice and
then I think he practiced on Saturday maybe and ended
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up playing awfully well. And Vigil. I don't think it's
practice for two months a month and with a foot,
but he has played. So TJ Bass has moved to
limit it limited limited, uh Tumadoga limited, Jordan Lewis limited,
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and Mazzy Smith went from not practicing to limited. So
that's good news. The Bucks have three guys, four guys
that haven't practiced. They're tight end Cade Otten, safety, Antoine Winfield,
left tackle.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
We'res Tristan Warps. You named three of their best players.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And the other guy was one two three, Oh that
was that. Oh Trey Palmer U was ill their wide receiver.
So the one guy that was two guys that were
did not practice on Wednesday. Uh kJ Britt linebacker moved
to limited and Mike Evans limited, one more Sterling Shepherd limited.
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So those guys it is probably.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Will end up playing. Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, load managers, but they do their load management in
practice rather than in games, unlike the NBA. The Mavericks
last night did they not play players? Last night?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Irving and Dunsconce were listed as injuries.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Because they weren't playing for the NBA.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Come you know what that thousand line right? I was
watching in the fourth quarter and it was like, well,
where is every morning?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
You know? I flipped over and watched and I thought
I couldn't tell which team was whitch because I didn't
recognize any players. And then I saw Derek Lively. Okay,
so the Mavericks were in white, and the court looked different,
the team, the jersey looked different. What it was I
was watching, So I went back to football.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
They finally got it. They finally got eight to eight points,
and I'm going, Okay, this is gonna be good. And
then I'm looking around. I'm going, well, no, it's not because.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The game Yeah, uh okay, we're gonna take a break
and come back. And I just since I went looking
for the schedule ever since I saw today's schedule, and
I just realized why we're on at ten am today
instead of noon, and that's because there's a bowl game
at eleven. Jacksonville State is yeah, Ohio, and so Mickey
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didn't want to do so well at Jacksonville State. Was
going on, all right, that's shots.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
In just a moment, they probably could beat Jackson State.
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Of the Year.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
And when we're going to find that out, I think
they do it before the Super Bowl because that person
gets a free trip. Whoever wins, I believe.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
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Speaker 7 (36:29):
Where are we tomorrow?
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Cool wins?
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Where are we tomorrow? The omni Okay, no, I thought
it was. It's not in on legacy.
Speaker 12 (36:39):
Let me see we're on the Yeah, we're there to
back you up to the Fan of the year. All
fans of the year for each team do go to
the Super Bowl and they announce the Fan of the
Year at NFL Honors.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
But they all get to go. They free get to go.
They get a free trip to the super Bowl. Yes,
so we're next door tomorrow at one fifteen. Okay is
that what you said? Okay?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
Toy? Okay?
Speaker 4 (37:08):
So you're doing that at one fifteen to.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
One file, so that first game is not going to
be over with. I bet by.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Time we you're talking about the Coast Football Playoff SMU
and Ben States. Boy, that's a tough what. It's snowing
there too, snowing at Notre Dame too, South Bend.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
But Notre Dame doesn't have one hundred and eight thousand people.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
They got touchdown. Jesus though.
Speaker 7 (37:35):
That makes up for thirty thousand.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Waite Bill said that this sound is so honymous.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Jesus.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
The big Man's Big Man.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Babe Laffenburg sent me a text last night. He's in Chicago.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
I heard he went.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
He sent me a text he's got an Indiana letter
jacket on. And then I woke up this morning and
I Notre Dame and tweeted out picture of the stadium,
snow covered stadium with a snowman. And I texted him
back and said, I hope you got a lot of
layers under that Indiana letter jacket.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
But the entire Great Lakes area it's just all snowed up.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah, And so I thought I was thinking, Okay, they
started this first round college football playoff at home stadiums
on December nineteenth and twentieth or whatever the date is.
And I'm like, well, yeah, you deserve that if you
got to start at that lake. And then so that
I looked, they should have started this like the first
weekend in December, and I looked up South Bend. The
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temperature today the temperature is up to thirty five and snow.
Well two weeks ago it was the highway was twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
We gotten mat it did make it any and South
Bend is like gets all the backwash from Lake Michigan.
M okay, because we used to get it before Lake
Michigan growing up, and then they got it afterwards.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
So I believe I spent with two teams. I'm sitting
on the Great Lakes. That's tough, man. Never thought i'd
be doing that.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
So uh And in Penn State that's in the twenties
probably tomorrow, okay, so ever since? Is it a home
field advantage for teams that are in the northern climbs
these days? Is it a home field advantage for those
players playing in twenty degrees against the team from the south.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
I agree, yeah, I do. Okay, Well, did it help
you think it did well?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
I've never oh yeah, well when I played up in
Cleveland or when I played in New York. Yes, so
you were oh it's cold, okay, Well yeah, yeah, we
felt we felt like and the crowd too, seemed to
get more involved in the game.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
You know, when the weather seemed to be on our.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
Site, the exhaust come out.
Speaker 8 (39:50):
Yeah, but I don't know what it is, but they
seem to have a lot more energy because you know,
the fans, they get into that. I think the fans
like the cold better than the players like the cold.
It seems like they enjoyed Well, I'm with you now,
but once again, we're down here.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
The ones up there, they're.
Speaker 8 (40:07):
Accustomed to that, and I think that they really do
believe that that gives them an edge.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I'm just thinking they don't practice in it, right, They
just live in it, and living in it is not
playing in it.
Speaker 8 (40:20):
But to me, it seems to that they seemed to
work out in the home team's favor.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
It seems to work out almost every time.
Speaker 8 (40:29):
And of course, unless you got another cold team cold
weather team coming in. But if you're talking about Miami
going up to Buffalo, then we know what that's about.
You're talking about San Diego going up to play in
Cincinnati and it's minus fifty six degrees.
Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, and in that case, it's like the team is
built the way the team is put together throwing the
football with Dan fouts or you know, in the case
of Dolphins now with Tua and Tyreek and speak great
winners negated. Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (41:04):
So come on, so before we do our picks, you're
the defensive coordinator. What are you doing with Mike Evans?
Speaker 6 (41:11):
I got a double.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Team in many in key situations, okay, in key situations.
Every team has their tendencies. And if I see a
particular formation, or if I anticipate a particular situation that
to where I know they're going to go to them,
then yes, I'm going to consider at least at least
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favoring a safety or a linebacker to his side at least.
Speaker 7 (41:37):
But other times, would you, I mean, think about it.
The Cowboys are down cornerback.
Speaker 8 (41:44):
Yeah, well they better, they better know how to play safe.
Just the way we played against I can't remember the
team that we just ended up playing against, and they
were throwing all of the sideline routes, throwing all the
out routes. You have to minimize the damage backs. You
gotta minimize the damage. If you know that your cornerback
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is someone that's coming off a practice field going against
this guy future.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Hall of Famer, then he's got a back off.
Speaker 8 (42:11):
He's got a back off. Well, I mean, if you
feel like you can get up in this grill. But
here's what you have to do. Regardless of what your
technique is, your mindset has to be. There are certain
plays I can't give up and certain ones that I
have to give up. So if you're looking at those
out routes, you gotta give up the outside routes. And
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I don't mean the outside routes all the way down
the field. I'm not talking about nine you know, going
on the ninth route.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
That's outside as well.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
I'm talking about keeping everything to a minimum so that
we can live to play another down.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Okay, you have.
Speaker 8 (42:46):
To do that with Big T because if you saw
the game, the one we just lost with the punt,
we were just talking about it as Cincinnati Cincinnati, you
realize how many deep sidelines we gave up, but we
stayed in the game.
Speaker 6 (43:00):
Was still in the game. We still didn't give up
a bunch of touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
We kept it to the deep outs, anything that tried
to come inside. We were strong inside, just the way
we always played it. With the flex, you have to
do that while you're concentrating on playing the run. You
can't do both simultaneously, well, especially with this show.
Speaker 7 (43:23):
Do you think when I watched Tampa Bay play and
I see Evans uncovered blown coverage, Yeah, yeah, I mean
I've never seen a guy that's so good, so wide open.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Well, I mean when you look at us, we tend
to have some blown coverages.
Speaker 7 (43:39):
As well, but these were for touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Yeah yeah, and well we did touch shot.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
I saw it.
Speaker 8 (43:45):
So my point is we have to make sure. First
of all, we can't have wild open all over the place,
but we have to make sure that we stay within
the scheme of the defense. Don't get greedy. Don't get greedy.
If you can make a play, of course, the play
is there to be made.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
We don't.
Speaker 8 (44:01):
There's a there's a fine line be playing between playing
safely and not playing well at all. There's a fine
line between that.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
You got, I.
Speaker 7 (44:10):
Shouldn't pick Deron Bland from my pick to click.
Speaker 8 (44:13):
Now, Deron Bland is the man I'm talking about. These
other cornerbacks well.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
He's got to go find them, I think.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
Do you think, well, we're not sure necessarily if he's
going to be traveling.
Speaker 7 (44:22):
Yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 8 (44:23):
Because they do have a couple of other decent wide receivers.
Speaker 7 (44:27):
Yes, yes they do, because I saw so. If you
think about it, when the Cowboys played that NFC title
game against San Francisco the ninety fours, they they were
gonna put they were gonna put double on Michael Irvin
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and let Dion take out Taylor. No, no, no on
the Cowboy. Dion was with San francska. Okay, he's taking
and our Elvin Harper. And then the second half started
and that wasn't working. So they put Dion on Michael
and that didn't work either. But that's the way they
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That's right, I saw. You know, there's two ways to
do it. You're doubling the best guy and then singling
take that guy out with somebody else. Be interested to
see how they treat that.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Okay, y'all ready for your picks. Okay, ever, since you're
up first.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
Well, I like to know what we what we need
to do before I tell you what we're gonna do. Okay, Well,
what we need to do. I think we need to
stop the run. I think that's gonna be our number
one goal. That's what's made us I think a better
defense in the last i'd say four or five games
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is the fact that we have concentrated on the run
and we I think we have sacrifice to pass just
to bed. So I'm still going with my line backers.
One of my linebackers as our you know what, I'm
not going linebacker since we talked about him. So take
my guy Osa. I'm taking Osa. I'm taking with at
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least i'd say at least three quarterback hits. Okay, I
wanted to get a sack. Gotta be nice if he
got a fumble recovery. But I'm not doing all of that.
So I'm looking for us to play the run very well.
We're going to give up some on the past. It's
going to give up. We're going to give up some scores.
But I still look at us winning. It's going to
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be a tight game. Guys, twenty eight to twenty four.
He almost Cowboys win almost dowenty eight.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Twenty eight, twenty four and Osha.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Ulsa with a sack, and I want to least three quarterback.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Hits because because I tell you I'm actually going to
raakage down.
Speaker 8 (46:54):
Fakage Baker Mayfield. You know, when you flush him out
of that pocket, it's feast of fa He'll take some chance,
He'll take some chances.
Speaker 4 (47:04):
Okay, Mickey, what do you got?
Speaker 7 (47:05):
So I got a cake? Get off of Osa? Now
you don't have that was gonna be my pick. I'm
taking OSA. Okay, And I got I just wrote it
down before you even said it. Twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Oh wow, okay, how about that?
Speaker 6 (47:21):
All right?
Speaker 7 (47:21):
Great minds? Now what you're saying? Well, first off, and
I was gonna say, and the winning field goal is
Brandon ha Haarbury from seventy yards.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
There you go on the Freaki on the frea kid, Okay,
I got nothing.
Speaker 4 (47:37):
I got nothing else that was mine.
Speaker 7 (47:41):
I figured that.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
Rafael's Septi inn, by the way, narrowly missed a rare
free kick from fifty three yards away with twenty two
seconds left, giving the Houston Oilers a seventeen fourteen victory
over the Dallas Cowboys Saturday night at Irving, Texas. This
was the final preseason game of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
S there, so there was it was a preseason preseason.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Game in nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:13):
Who found that?
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I looked it up.
Speaker 7 (48:16):
No, who found it?
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Who found it? It was a it's a La Times story.
I googled it and it's in the La Times archive
from nineteen eighty six. Danny White drove Dallas toward a
potential winning touchdown before fumbling a snap from center that
was recovered by Houston, and then they punted the ball
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back with twenty two seconds left. Danny White was still
in the game. And it wasn't the fourth preseason game.
It was the fifth preseason game of nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 7 (48:49):
They played the All American or the Hall of Fame Game.
No No, in London, Oh.
Speaker 4 (48:56):
In nineteen eighty six. I's tried. They were the American
American Bowl Game. Yeah, in London, that's right. Anyway, Uh,
what was the Cowboys record that preseason that preseason?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
Yep, five games five games, two and three.
Speaker 13 (49:13):
One and four oh and five, which goes to show
it doesn't mean anything because you started off six and two.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Yeah, but we sucked eventually sucked.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
With the number one offense in the league.
Speaker 4 (49:29):
So I'm going with uh, Baker Mayfield, as you've alluded
to has a propensity to especially coming off a four
touchdown game with no picks.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
He's good about him.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Yeah, but he's due to throw in a couple more picks,
and it's Deron Bland is going to have at least
one pick, and I'm thinking probably two picks. That's a game, Okay,
it's going to go right down to the wire, and
the Buccaneers are going to be forced to punt from
deep in their own into the field. Had uh fair
catch much even though Cavante wants to return it. He
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will return this Even though he wants to return it,
They're gonna Fossil Is gonna figure out a way to
convince him to fair catch it. He's gonna show him
this video of what happened in the Charger game on
Thursday night.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
And I don't think it will.
Speaker 4 (50:18):
Be Brandon Aubrey's with a You said seventy yard, okay,
I'll go seventy one.
Speaker 6 (50:26):
Yard yeah, free kick?
Speaker 4 (50:29):
He get free kick, yeah, to win the game. Twenty
seven twenty four. Man, So I got twenty seven twenty four.
You got twenty seven to twenty four. You got twenty
eight twenty four. So there you go. That's what's gonna
happen to kick to wrap up a sensational football weekend.
Speaker 7 (50:46):
So it wouldn't have worked in the Cincinnati game if
they didn't block the punt because he's probably catching it
at the twenty yard line.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
M hmm.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (50:55):
So that's a little that's asking. He can kick it
eighty with a running start, but maybe not accurate.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
Okay, real quick before we go, uh, Notre Dame Indiana,
who wins? And tonight you got Indiana?
Speaker 6 (51:09):
Man, I love that running game.
Speaker 4 (51:11):
Indiana wins all road running.
Speaker 7 (51:12):
I can't. I can't pull for a Notre Dame SMU.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
Penn State.
Speaker 8 (51:16):
Ah, my heart says SMU. Your head, but that weather
says Penn State.
Speaker 4 (51:23):
Okay, I'm with him. All rights and Texas play at
three o'clock tomorrow. I got Texas, Texas, Texas.
Speaker 7 (51:30):
Wait, what are you're not participating?
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I'll go Notre Dame, I'll go s m U and
I'll go Texas. And then Tennessee plays Ohio State.
Speaker 8 (51:41):
Tennessee, Yeah, Tennessee. Tennessee's looking to go at Thehose State.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
I go Ohio State, okay.
Speaker 7 (51:49):
In the Big House. And then Oregon, Oh no.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
The eyes okay, so that's uh. And then finally South
Oak Cliff Highlight in Park, South Lake, Carrol, and North Crowley. Okay,
these are just the five A and six A. How
many state champions come out of here? Four?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
All?
Speaker 4 (52:11):
Four?
Speaker 7 (52:13):
Let's go all right?
Speaker 6 (52:14):
So we we'll do it all right?
Speaker 7 (52:16):
Also, Dallas, that's right.
Speaker 6 (52:18):
Very good. You notice my I'm checking you out, my
Carrol Dragon.
Speaker 7 (52:21):
Second, okay, that's where I'm going to be tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (52:23):
After three o'clock.
Speaker 7 (52:24):
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to work.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
You know what what I did to help get that
coach hired at age twenty nine? Dolly, I'm going to
be there if he wins the state champion. You're going
to be on the sideline as the mayor of South Lake.
By the way, are those games on so many broadcasts?
Speaker 7 (52:42):
They're on fan duel? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (52:45):
That which used to be bally Sports? Okay, but okay,
the difference is now if you get if you got
Bally Sports on direct TV, then you have access to
or whatever. If not, which I don't, you can pay
for the stream.
Speaker 7 (53:03):
It's a monthly deal. You can pay twenty to twenty five,
so it's.
Speaker 4 (53:08):
It's twenty dollars and you it's a month to month
deal where you can cancel it.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:13):
Yeah, because all that fan duel has now is at
least on I went to look it up. They have
high school football playoff state championship games and they got WNBA.
That's all. So when the WNBA season, Mickey starts, you
can I like the well that's what I'm saying. You
can wait until the season starts and then you can
subscribe again. Yeah, all right, does it have a great
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football weekend and we'll be back to talk about all
the winners, including the Cowboys on Monday at noon, O Cowboys.
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