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we hope. Here on Mickshots on a Monday, following cowboys
forty one to seven loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
That was ugly.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
It was good for one quarter, almost two quarters, right
until the root caved in the last couple minutes of
the first half. And here we are the Cowboys, I'm
not saying assuring themselves, but knowing that they will have
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a losing season, sitting here at seven and nine with
one game to go. Be the first losing season since
two thousand and twenty and only the second one since
twenty fifteen, So we're not used to this type of season.
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Knowing well, we knew last week it was over right
two games to play and cemented the NFC East title
for the Eagles, which means still since two thousand and four.
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No team is repeated in the NFC East as champions.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yesterday felt like a homecoming game, the home coming.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It felt like at homecoming, like the one you scheduled
that you're supposed to win, right.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I mean it's like, you know, they treated us as
if we were just doormats. I mean that's the way
that the game looked. The inevitable was there, you know
the entire time. This is the way the Eagles do.
Whether you have Jalen Hurts or Picket, picket in the game.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I didn't picket.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And even you know, when you come in with thirteen
quarterback doing touchdowns, yeah, you know, they'll let you know
that you know, this team is might pack.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
It up and you might be might be over your head.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Every everyone's taking vay cases.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Uh. The way I looked at it, it was a
combination of uncommonly bad decisions by Cooper Rush, the fact
that they turned the ball over four times and they
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ran out of cornerbacks. They could have used your help.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
I probably would have added to the demise.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
When I found out that they were going to have
to start Andrew Booth at cornerback, I'm going, oh, this
team is in trouble, and I'm sure the Eagles and
Kellen Moore knew all about it. He's been in over
his head since he got here. And it was a
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combination of things that you know, you lose all these
corners and then you know you lose Trayvon Diggs. You
already had lost Josh Butler to injured reserve, they had
gotten amani Ui back, and then he has to get
placed on injured reserve. So here was what the Cowboys
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basically were facing. They had to figure out how to
stop aj Brown and they had to stop Barkley. So
to me, you were going to put doron Bland on
Brown hopefully you you know, kind of keep him under control,
but you had to do what you needed to do
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to stop Barkley, and so they kind of forced crowded
the line of scrimmage that left Andrew Booth in too
many one on one situations with DeVonta Smith, and it
got exposed. I don't know if you thought of any
better defensive scheme that they could have come up with
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to try to take care of those two wide receivers
and the running back on top of it, even though
they had a backup quarterback Kenny Pickett play.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
And it's not just what was going on on offense,
they just they really, to me, stuck to a conservative
game plan. The Eagles did offensively. The problem that you
had was your defense was with their backs against the
wall the entire game. Right, let's just call it where
there is. We were overmatched on the offensive line. These
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guys are they're well oiled and throughout the entire season
they have.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Been well oiled on how to run.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Barkley and he finished off the Cowboys in good fashion
the way he should have. You guys are a good team.
This is the Eagles talking to us. You guys did
very well against teams that you know, cemented themselves into
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the playoffs. And this is the kind of game this
time of year. This is the kind of games that
playoff teams win, and they win in this fashion. Thank
you guys for coming. We appreciate you guys. You know
we have a healthy right over here. It will still
be there. But you guys were overmatched by us in
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both games, whether it's home or away.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
If you add the scorers to both games, I.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Don't want to do that.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Come on, you know, And I think the disappointment is
we knew it was going to be a tough game,
but you wanted to see better momentum by the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Right.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Cooper Rush had a great game against Tampa. But the
Eagles not only have a good players, they have a
good staff, right, And they looked at the game against Tampa.
They looked at the game against Tampa, and they figured
out everything that Cooper did well, right, and they were.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Ready for it. They were ready for.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That's not Bill Jones.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Differ.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Nate Newton coming in for coming in, coming in for
the first quarter, coming in hot.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
He's coming in hot, doing we're doing well.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I catch up catch him.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Couldn't stay away from an open mic.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
That's good, never open didn't like.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And you're right, and and and then the Cowboys, you know,
compounded that problem with making some bad decisions.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Right, you have a defense like Philly.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Which way.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Two a couple of things, and you said it was
like a homecoming? So am I blind something over the universe?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
There is something wrong with the TV.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I was trying to stay away from it.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'll stay away from that.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The color is way off, so us veil.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
You know it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This tells you how how this rivalry is for Philadelphia.
So we're coming in on the buses to the game,
and you know how the Eagle fans out in the
parking lots treat the Cowboys, right, And I'm thinking, all right,
they're they're what twelve, twelve and three Cowboys are seven
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and eight. They're gonna look like this as a cake one, right, nah,
fingers up, thumtains down, the whole way right. They're just
enjoying it. And then when you were talking about you
mentioned their defense. So it's before the game, early warm ups.
I'm standing on the side eye line of the Cowboys
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bench and this number ninety comes walking by, and I'm going,
that might be the biggest human being I've seen in
quite some time. Jordan Davis. Okay, well, I'm guessing six
four three, six, I don't know. And I said to myself,
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and somebody's got to block him. That is a big man, which,
by the way, too pretty good actor. Also, because Tyler
Smith little shoved to the helmets sent him flying, It's like,
give me a break.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
The rest shouldn't even fall for that was they fell for.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
You should know that a guy that big can't fly
that that far, period, unless he did it on his own.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So I should look up Nate. You guess how big
is he.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
He's a man full of grown. That's how I can say,
is that the one of Georgia, that's one of.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Both of them, one of them to Georgia and both
of them from other kid is from a LA Tech.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Number ninety three is from LA Tech Lucy v Tech.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah, six six, three thirty six. You've got to
be three point fifty, I swear. But anyway, when I
saw that, I'm going the Cowboys offensive line's gonna have trouble.
But for you know, a quarter or so, they did all.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right, That's what everyone says against Philly's defense, Right, for
a quarter or so, everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, and that's not just the players the coach.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
I get it that the players probably say, Okay, I
know what he's doing about. But the coaches made great
adjustments defensively for Philadelphia.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I've seen it.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
In every big game they've played. That's not a coincidence.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, and you know they probably see they they made
a different decision than Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay decided that
if they weren't going to allow the Cowboys to run
on them, and that you know, they were going to
stop rec O'Donnell and Cooper Rush, you're gonna have to
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beat us. Well, I think in this case, they decided
that Cooper Rush wasn't going to beat them with our
right Donald will get his yards, but we're not going
to let these backups beat us in the passing game.
And that's sort of what took place.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
All right, your turn, Yeah, man, just uh this this
is what happens when you run into a motivated team
that has something to play for, that have the better
athletes and just the better team. I was just praying
at Kellum would blow it for us.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
He would not blow it for but it took but
a half.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
It took him a quarter and a half to figure
out that we had the cornerback over there.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
It took him to I mean, it's just funny to me.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
How he tries to prove to the world when it
comes to the Cowboys that I'm going to pass this
ball when the key to the whole game was the
one guy in the back.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
One guy in the back. This is his game. This
is his game.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
And as much as I love what the Cowboys have
done for us with the young guys, I'm a realist.
You are realist. And you are realists, especially with this cap. Okay,
I'm gonna I was just sitting there.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
He's sticking to the game plan, stick to the.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Playing and welcome Bill Jones, who just got his Christmas
present a little late.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I bought myself a Christmas present a little late.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Been gallivanting around in the new truck.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
No, I haven't got my truck yet.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
You got it yet?
Speaker 8 (12:51):
No, this is funny because okay, so I got me
a new truck, and that's why I'm late. I've just
signing all the papers and all that with my wife,
your mother. Yeah, so on this f one fifty to
Ford f one fifty.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Okay, that's a proud sponsor.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yes, okay, got a discount, and I'm I've had a
Ford f one fifty forever.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Okay, but this one has a toolbox on the back.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Okay, you say, nice, he's got.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
So the sales. You know, I can we can get
rid of the toolbox if you want. I said, you
know what, if I look at.
Speaker 8 (13:38):
My wife, she's like she starts smiling, like he had no, no, no, no,
she said, he's got no reason to have a toolbox.
If I took up golf again, that would be a
good place to put my golf.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Back and you can lock them in there.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
Yeah, but that's if you knew anything about my lack
of ability to fix anything, and then it would.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Be hilarious that I would have a toolbox.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
So was this sort of like the commercial on TV
where the girl whistles with the dog in her arms
and the truck comes flying.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Over the mountain.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Yeah, that's pretty much all right.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yeah, so your wife taught you a truck.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
I have to wait a couple of days to get
it though. They got to.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Take it that they're taking a box out.
Speaker 8 (14:29):
So anyway, I've got two hundred and fifty one thousand
miles on my hoo.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Yeah, so I think it was about time I got
a new one.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I'm hoping for the same thing on my outbacks.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Get that on the floor.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
That's not bad, that's right, No, there's nothing. There's absolutely
nothing wrong with the one I've got. It's just got
two hundred and fifty one thousand miles on it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I'm hoping I can hold on to mind till they
take my keys away.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Hey, you sometimes you don't want to be too long
in these cars. Yeah, you don't want to be too long.
You know, stuff is just waiting for you to have.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
It's amazing.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
See this one has more bells and whistles. You can
actually plug in a charger, which I wasn't on the
two thousand and that. I wait, wait, wait, you can
plug it. Yeah, man, they've been doing that.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
We got all sorts of.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Now now this is this is the key question.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Can you push a button? It comes on. You don't
have to put the key in and turn anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Can you talk on your phone without holding it to
your ear? Uh?
Speaker 8 (15:32):
You blue?
Speaker 6 (15:34):
I we think so? Yeah, I saw somebody. You got
to hear this. I haven't had a radio in my
five years.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What do you listen to when you drive?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Phone?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I just call up mix shots here on my phone.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Let me tell you. So, don't you have an accident?
Look at all those dolls and things. Hey this is
not Oh sorry, I have to drive.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
My radio went out five years ago and it costs
like seven hundred dollars to fix to replace it.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
And I'm like, well, no, I'm going to get a
new truck here soon.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
There's been five years.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
It's gone by.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Too many distractions, too many distracts.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
And then I figured out and this was the final
straw when a guy pulled out in front of me
the other day and I blared on the horn and
the horn doesn't more.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Well, I gotta get.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
A new truck. That must saved your life these days. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Felt totally defensive, kind of like the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, my dad, My dad would have showed you what
a substitute you could have used. He had a fifty
four Chevy and this would have been nineteen sixty five,
sixty six somewhere in there. The horn didn't work, so
bought what are those squeeze things put on your bike?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And he would roll down.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Squeeze it in.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
All right, you're a lot like your dad, that's right,
a whole lot.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
All right, take a break and reiter here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah, we can do that before you get into your
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Speaker 1 (20:17):
Where it was at the game by the way in
the coaches box.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
Dak Prescott actually held court with the media.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
He did right at the door way. I figured it
was leaven the locker room.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
So it was not anything formal. No, it wasn't do
you catch anything that he's got sort.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Of the end of it, and he was just given
an update on whereas we have was and how tough
it is to have to sit there and watch not
be able to do anything about it, but said that
he might start running lightly in a couple of weeks,
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but he was off the crutches so he was moving
on his own.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Okay, we're good.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yes, So we were talking about our take on the game, and.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
We'll mind that's very similar to yours. They're playing defense
in the phone booth.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
But that's the that's the That game was the taking,
taking the kid behind the shed and spanking the hell
out of them.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
That was one of those games.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I mean, you know, the first half they held Barkley
to forty yards rushing. First quarter, they only had fourteen
yards total offense. And it was a seven to seven game.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
You know, and the Cowboys offense was matriculating down it
was okay, and.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Had two hundred and some yards the first half.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
How big are third down plays? Third down?
Speaker 8 (21:54):
It was third and three at the thirty five, and
I was thinking right before that interception, the pick six,
I was thinking, okay, they have done exactly what they
did last game on the opening possession of the first
half against Tampa Bay and the final possession of the
first half against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
They drove basically.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Thirty yards downfield, thirty thirty five yards downfield, and now
you kick a fifty three yardfield goal. Okay, go incomplete
pass on third and three and that's.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
The But instead it was a pick six. Okay.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
So then matriculate down the field again and you get
a touchdown.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Okay, But it.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Was a third and nine play at the thirty four
yard line. Same position on the field third down play.
This time it was the twenty two yard completion to
Brandon Cook's get working on Darius Slay who held him
on the play, all right, That put him in position
at the twelve yard line, and they were able to
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punch it in with the help of a de And
it's a holding call on a third and seven play
at the nine yard line. So all of a sudden,
the Cowboys are having success on third down on offense
and they score a touchdown. Fast forward a couple of
possessions and you get to midway of the second quarter,
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third and eight for Philadelphia at the forty six yard line.
Quarterback rolls right and hits Grant Calcaterra, the tight end
who made a terrific catch on the ball for a
thirty four yard completion.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Against mccuamo against mcwamboo.
Speaker 8 (23:35):
That's right, so all right, that other guy playing that
probably that guy ter the twenty yard line, and then
you're in a position Barkley for three completion to Barkley
for minus five. So you're they're at the twenty two
facing third and twelve, and Kellen Moore gets Devonte Smith
isolated on booth and twenty two yard.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Touchdown out of the slot and he just couldn't keep up.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
Yeah, so you look, I kind of I rattled off
five or six third down places.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well you missed one beginning of the second quarter, third
and one, and they threw deep to Mingo and he
threw a bad pass.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
He's on your take on that ever since.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
He's open, remember it.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, and he's looking towards the sideline when the ball
should have been and it ended up inside and he
never found the ball.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
That happened was that was the one he threw it
on his outside.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, he throw outside shoulder, but he's looking inside.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Yeah, he was looking inside and threw it.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh okay, I said backwards.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, and there was two guys on him. But it
seems like if the ball was thrown, if he were
have followed the ball.
Speaker 8 (24:51):
Well see, and that's why I asked you because that's
what Greg Olsen said.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
He he did not put the blame.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
On the quarter back as much as he put it
on Mingo not tracking the ball.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
And that's not the first time that's happened this year
for US. I Cook did it with Dak early in
the season, and that's happened I'd say about three times
this year.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
That's the old red line drill down down the you.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Keep it inside, you stay close to the hash so
that you can give the quarterback room to throw over.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Your and on the practice field to practice that, they've
got red lines down the field, which gives room and
your coach to run the red line, and it gives
room for the quarterback to throw the ball to the side.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
Let me say this, All of that stuff is cute
until you get a defender with you. I don't know
how many times I've seen it where you have a
great athlete that can run a round with no one
on him, but when you have a an adjustment that
needs to be made based on what the dbs do,
you can't run arount and think at the same time.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
And it seems that if he was caught in.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
This is how I run this route, this is where
it's supposed to be. Okay, I'm thinking this all through. Well, yeah,
you forgot the dog on ball is coming and that
has had that's something that wide receivers have a problem yet.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And that was set up because they were picking on
twenty seven and Mitchell Mitchell, who was their first round
draft and he had beat him and he never found
the ball in the best that's.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Not that's that's happened several times by for the Cowboys
this season.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
McCarthy could say.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It was like, think the wind win there.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean, they were going.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
He was running as if he was running a sprint
and not playing football. I'm running a route. Oh that's right.
I have to catch a ball. Sometimes wide receiver, especially
ones with not much experience, they forget that.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Yeah, you go through with the play, but it might
be coming to you.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I don't think he ever.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I don't know if he.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
Ever saw it. And that's what that's what your point is.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
But I'll go back to the ball. I'll go back
to the point.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
He decided to look for the ball way past the
time it is for that play to be over.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I got a feeling third and one that wasn't the
call you think, so, I think they were. I think
it was one of those you look at it and say, Okay,
I'm going to take a shot.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah, Because afterwards I saw on the sideline McCarthy and
Rush talking Okay, so take a demonstratively, by the way.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Take it. Okay.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I'm happy to hear that.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Okay, because I was wondering, and I think a lot
of people were wondering, why were they were taking a
shot there?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
All right?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
What about on the touchdown to Tobert? Did Cooper talk
about that at all?
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I think that was.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
If I remember correctly, There was another one that was, Okay,
here's the play call, but you have the right to change.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
That's what That's the way Greg Olsen analyzed it. He
said that was a run right right, and.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Cooper on his own.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
Along with Tolbert, decided to take advantage of the matchup
against Gwinneon Mitchell on the left side.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He might have thought, oh, I'm hot here do it again.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
It was just a couple one. It's interesting.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And at that point, if you just look at the
stats of the first quarter, Philadelphia had fourteen total yards,
nine of those belonged to Berkley.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
And then the cat got let out of the bag
thanks to the They recovered that fumble on second in
five and it would have been third and six, and
and Booth got called for illegal content downfield and that
(29:06):
led to the touchdown that made it fourteen to seven.
And after that it's like, well, what are you going
to do? Because not only did they not have ourarie there,
they had signed Cayman Hall to the fifty three for
depth but special team, and then he couldn't play because
he had a hamstring injury and they had to elevate.
(29:31):
Is it Troy Troy Pride off the practice squad and about.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Who got ejected from the game.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
He lost money playing?
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That'sat I'll guarantee you that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
He and Jalen.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Brooks, because you know, Brooks's six round draft choice, so
he's probably it's the you know, second year rookie minimum
and you know Pride that's what he's on. And I
bet they get fined a good twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Do you think do you think the NFL takes into
account the salary that the player makes when they make
a decision on what they're going to find him, that
that is, this is a call up player from the
practice squad.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think they should think they do, because I guarantee
the NBA did when they find Anthony Edwards one hundred
thousand dollars I.
Speaker 12 (30:22):
Saw and there was a history of yes, that for
what I looked that up last night.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
By the way, that they don't they don't know they don't.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
They don't take take into account the players.
Speaker 12 (30:33):
Have a flat list of like first offense, second offense.
First offense for fighting is thirty nine thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Oh, they lost money.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He's paying to play. Yeah, that was a w REC
game for him. He's a game for him.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
His next two games will be too. Then.
Speaker 12 (30:50):
I mean he probably gets I don't know, I don't
know his salary, but like that comes up to like
six hundred and sixty six thousand a year.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
He's he's actually a like a third or fourth year player.
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
So the the minimum for that, it's got to be
over a million.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
So if you divide that by seventeen thirty nine thousand
with six hundred and sixty six.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Thousand, So yeah, so for on the on the six
sixty salaries, thirty nine okay.
Speaker 12 (31:20):
In the game yeah, oh, I think the second offense
for fighting is seventy seven.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
So basically it's a game check for a minimum wage player.
Is the first offense fighting?
Speaker 6 (31:35):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Is that what you're saying says fighting?
Speaker 12 (31:37):
So I'm assuming fighting getting thrown out of the game
is probably the same efense, right.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
But you said it was did you say it was
thirty nine thousand, it was.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's like thirty nine one hundred and something dollars. That's
what it is.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
First offense, which which is basically the same amount for
a quote unquote minimum wage player in the league a
game check.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Right, So there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Did they have to pay more because the poor official
buried underneath pile?
Speaker 6 (32:09):
I don't know if Troy Pride is married or not.
Can you imagine telling your wife?
Speaker 12 (32:14):
Because the way I think they work it out with
the NFL Players Association is like, we're not gonna like,
if two guys are gonna fight, you know, you gotta
find the guys the same amount.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Does that make sense? You can't be like, well, this
guy is a little bit, you know. I think that's
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
They try to decide who started.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Who started it. I think it's both fighting.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
All I know is if it were me, I might
as well not come home.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
You wouldn't be getting that truck today.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
That's exactly right, uh invoice from the NFL.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I wonder if you can.
Speaker 12 (32:50):
I wonder if you can like like, hey, yeah, I'll
pay it out over it, you know, can we.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Can you take it out on my next check?
Speaker 12 (33:00):
You know, I got these Christmas presents I have to
pay off.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I just bought a new car.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
And Jalen Brooks is basically in the same boat.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, he's in the same boat.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And I bet Tyler Smith for a personal file gets
fined also, which he shouldn't.
Speaker 12 (33:14):
Yeah, personal fouls get fined. But the fighting was I
looked up fighting.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
That's the one thing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Fighting is bad.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, you had an official, It's like two or three
k jacks.
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Speaker 6 (36:18):
For a game and got ejected for fighting.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Okay, and we've determined it's a thirty nine thousand, five
one dollar fine, do you which is equivalent basically to
a game check for that player. My question is if
I retired from football.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
At that moment, I do a meaning I'm not paying that.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Do I still get the paycheck of thirty nine thousand.
Speaker 12 (36:50):
So, knowing what I know, and I know a bunch
of players over the years, I'm moving here for twenty
five years. So I mean Terrence Newman was in my wedding.
I think that everybody knows that same dropper name dropping.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, Terns is my guy.
Speaker 12 (37:03):
So what I've been told is is when a fine comes,
you get them, You get the FedEx and it's already
off your check before you get the check.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
So I don't have the option.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Okay, so it was I can't remember who told me this.
I think it was Bryce Butler told me this.
Speaker 12 (37:30):
He goes, you know, the worst part about the fines
are is they do it after taxes, so they you
you basically don't take it out of like pre check.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
So they go through all the tax processes.
Speaker 12 (37:42):
Like a lot of people realize, like you play in Philadelphia,
you play like the Philadelphia Area tax, you play the
Philadelphia State Tax. You pay all these taxes and then
they after your game check and then they take the
final So where.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
Does the fine money go?
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Does it go to it.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
You can write it off as a contribution to a charity.
Speaker 12 (38:02):
Don't know if you can do that, you have, Okay,
all right, limited fines for the team goes to the
gen and Jerry, don't you have been fine?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
Oh reatenizing no uniform uniform?
Speaker 12 (38:25):
Okay, so leave to say that because because I sent
you in your text message ever since since you the
final list, look it up. You can scroll down to
uniforms and check out how much that's going to cost you.
That was probably one of your game checks. You see
that one. Scroll down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
It's probably like a little bit. It's right, it's above
fighting violations. Yeah, violations, Okay, it says uniform.
Speaker 12 (38:53):
There you go get to something that I oh, by
the way, fifty six.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Hundred dollars for uniform violation there. Ever since yeah it.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Is fifty, it occurred to me that the Cowboys loss
now gets them the third place schedule. Okay, against the
we were locked in the things that are the divisions
that you don't play, right, So it's the and Chris,
(39:22):
you can look this up. Make sure I got it right.
That the divisions they have to play.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah for this?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Oh yeah, NFC North, So three of the four teams
have winning records, and the a f C West three
of the teams I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:44):
They're three playoff teams. Well, if Denver makes it will be.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
Three and Chargers and the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
So the NFC West third place, I think it's Arizona
right now, they're out right, yes, Uh, there's a kicker
to that mech NFC South third place, I guess that's.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
New Orleans or Carolina's closed.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
And the a f C East is it uh Jets.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Jets right now?
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Because New England's last.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
Yeah yeah, New Eleands got the first pick in the draft.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Now, right, So what was the kicker? Chris?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
So, here's the thing.
Speaker 12 (40:26):
Arizona is in third place in in C West, right,
but they played their last week in the seasons.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
They played San Francisco.
Speaker 12 (40:35):
San Francisco wins the game, they flip place, they flip.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Well, here's the other thing on that. San Francisco right
now is six and nine.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
They host Detroit tonight and you take, oh, well, Detroy's
gonna win that game.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
Well, here's the problem with that. Detroit doesn't have to win.
Speaker 8 (40:50):
In fact, it's a meaningless it's a meaningless.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Game nothing because if they finished in a tie with Minnesota.
Speaker 8 (40:59):
It doesn't matter right now because they finish Sunday Night
against Minnesota, and whoever wins that game is going to
get the number one seed in the playoffs.
Speaker 12 (41:08):
Yeah, so tomorrow Tonight's game means nothing to them.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
They would have the tiebreaker on Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Wait say that again.
Speaker 6 (41:18):
Well, right now, right now, the Lions are thirt what
is it thirteen and two?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Thirteen and two, thirteen and two in.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
Minnesota's fourteen and two.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
Correct.
Speaker 8 (41:28):
If the Lions lose tonight to San Francisco, they'll be
thirteen and three, But if they beat Minnesota, both teams
will have a fourteen and three record. Detroit has the tiebreaker, Okay, okay,
And if the Lions win the night then they still
have to beat Minnesota in the final anyway.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
So, So in.
Speaker 8 (41:50):
Case they be at the same record right now, they
have to finish ahead of them.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
They would have to, so one of them is going
to get the number one.
Speaker 8 (41:58):
Yeah, the winner of the game Sunday Night gets the
number one fill So as it relates to Arizona in
San Francisco, San Francisco could win tonight a meaningless game
for Detroit and pull even with Arizona.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
So even though the Cowboys get a third place schedule,
they don't get a break because they got to play
the teams with the best divisions from this year.
Speaker 12 (42:19):
Oh but honestly, San Francisco being a fluke year for them, right,
you may end up having to play them, which arguably
you could probably say they're part of a first place
schedule next year.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Now, is Philadelphia next week playing for the number two seed?
Speaker 6 (42:34):
No, they're locked in.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
They're locked in.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
They are number number two.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah, all right, they do.
Speaker 12 (42:39):
I think they do have three losses, but I don't
think they have the tiebreakers.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
No, I know what I.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Looked up there. They're NFC.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Conference. Well yeah, that, but the conference records better than
uh whatever the tiebreaker I think was going to be.
Oh no that was Washington.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
I take that back. Can I say that? Please throwback?
He's good. I mean, he's like Billy Sims good, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
You know what, And he's not that big. I mean,
he's right.
Speaker 12 (43:14):
So let me ask you this, would you play Barkley the.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Last game.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Giants?
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Everybody's like, no, don't play him. I play I play him.
You're that close.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
You got to do it.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
You got to do it. I play him, and and man,
I play him and just well think about every carry.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Please don't get there think about what they did yesterday,
because I'm sitting there going, this game is over and
they're running three tight ends right and a full back or.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
You know, well, I mean you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
But you didn't have to run him right. And I'm
sitting there going, what if he gets hurt trying to chase?
And then I dawned. I mean they were trying to
get to two thousands, right because I was.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
Just cutting down the difference also on the hunt.
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Now that's that's I mean, we have to play the game.
And if this guy wants to play and he wants
to chase history, I think we owe it to history,
We owe to the fans to do this.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
I just really do. Uh. That's what the running backs
deal is.
Speaker 5 (44:21):
So you're cutting us as a running back right now,
where we're paid less than any other offensive player out
there on the on the field, and now you don't
want me to go for this record.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
You might get more than a center, yeah, or a guy.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
A guard draft in the first round. So yeah, I
would I would go for it.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
I think I think, I think, I think the fans
and the NFL are together. I think they all. We
owe that to the fans to try and make the record.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So does it get an asterisk because it's seventeen games? No, No,
Dickerson only.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
We can't. We can't do that.
Speaker 6 (44:56):
Dickerson will put.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
He already has. Yes, I saw the interview, and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
That's fine. But because you've got out, you've got some players.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
That he passed, well he passed oh J J fourteen exactly.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
Let's let's just let's just let the records stand. You know,
if you want to put the act by it, you
can do that.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
But it's still a hell against the Giants.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
He brought to do that in the first Come on,
and first of all, the poetic justice about that.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (45:26):
I'm sure the Giants management they want to be coming
to that game.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
They don't want to. They don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Must the g Yeah if he still has.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
A job, right, No he doesn't doesn't. No, No, he's going.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
They did everything.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
They should invite him. See what you did?
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah right here right.
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Fifty yard line?
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Oh gosh, Yeah, what a what a league?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (45:54):
You know, Adrian Peterson came within nine yards of Eric
Dickerson's record in two thousand.
Speaker 6 (46:00):
Twelve and he played play the last game.
Speaker 8 (46:03):
Now, I was just looking it up. They finished, Minnesota
finished ten and six. In that last game, they beat
Green Bay thirty seven thirty four, and I'm trying to
get a wild card. They had a wild card spot,
and I don't know whether they had to win it
to secure it.
Speaker 6 (46:20):
Probably did, But.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Well, did he have carries? He had?
Speaker 8 (46:27):
He had thirty four carries for one hundred and ninety
nine yards that yeah, and he wound up just short.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
And see, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 5 (46:38):
And I say throwback, I guess that to put Barkley
in the throwback running backs that are dependable running backs
that you don't necessarily worry about running them too much.
Agent Peterson, you could run him for two games in
one day and he would carry every y'all. He would
(46:59):
carry every carry as if it was his last, and
he would he rarely got injured.
Speaker 8 (47:04):
Well yeah, and that's the thing and with Barkley is
he's had a history of injury issues.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
That's the day.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
And so he's had injuries already. He has gotten hurt,
but he's overcome all of that. Obviously, this you know,
now the Giants are gonna the Giants are gonna be
eating a lot of crow next well.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I mean, if you ran him thirty one times just
to get over two thousand, you're playing them, I bet.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
And then you said, you know, the camera is going
to be facing the Giants booth, you know, the executive booth.
You know, it's just after every first down run that
he makes.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I'm sure they'll say for TV purpose, they'll super imposed
his yardage and carries right next to the score right
to keep you.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Track of it. Man. That's gonna be something next week.
Speaker 8 (47:56):
And by the way, it looks like Minnesota needed to
win that game because they actually wound up the they
got the last wild card spot Chicago. Currently, this is
in the twelfth season. I'm they got the last wild
card spot at ten and six and Chicago finished with
the same record at ten and six, so that there
(48:18):
was a difference there.
Speaker 4 (48:18):
Too, So making a difference in the league, that's.
Speaker 8 (48:24):
Why you got a draft one in the first round, right.
Barkley was the second overall pick, Peterson was the seventh
overall pick. Ashton st will be where the Cowboys picking.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Twelfth overall twelfth? Well, I mean, if you think about
positions you need unless there's some Jordan Davis standing out.
Speaker 6 (48:45):
There, man, I wish there was one Jalen Carter or Carter.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
These guys are so you were you were listening right
when I said he walked by me on the sideline,
he didn't have his pads on, and I'm going, somebody's
got a block here.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
I gotta say.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
I was on the sidelines for a preseason game and
Cam Newton came running bout in his uniform, Like what
the hell?
Speaker 1 (49:09):
So when I said Barkley wasn't that big, he's only
six foot yeah, but he's two thirty two.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
And I think it's all in his thighs right away.
Speaker 6 (49:19):
Right, he got those new House thighs.
Speaker 4 (49:23):
That's true, he does all right.
Speaker 6 (49:26):
Anything else, No, we're going tomorrow, right yep.
Speaker 8 (49:30):
Not on Wednesday, Not on New Year's Day, though the
Longhorns will be playing at high noon on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
I hope it's not open locker room. Well, the players
are off tomorrow, so they're doing something on Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (49:45):
Be later in the day.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
You think, get them off their feet, that's right.
Speaker 8 (49:51):
Put in McCarthy press conference today at three, and the
coordinators are going at words, yes, okay, and of course
it gotta go all right, and it is a noon
kickoff on Sunday against the Washington Commanders one thirty.
Speaker 6 (50:06):
She didn't get that by moe. Kickoff today.
Speaker 8 (50:11):
Oh, Missouri plays and I wasn't one of those big
bold script Bowl game.
Speaker 6 (50:17):
Who they playing Iowa? Okay, it doesn't that's right. And
the wide receivers not playing.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Right, probably not, No, he ain't playing okay.
Speaker 8 (50:28):
Uh, we'll chat at you again tomorrow at high noon
near on Mickshots Cowboys.
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