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December 27, 2024 50 mins
No Bill, no Everson, but Mickey and Nate get everyone ready for Cowboys-Eagles, breaking down what the Cowboys defense must do to stop Saquon Barkley and disrupt backup QB Kenny Pickett if indeed he must start for Jalen Hurts, still in concussion protocol. And offense after CeeDee.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is mick
shot streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the
official Dallas Cowboys as now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

(00:23):
and Mickey Spagnola.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well one out of three eight bad? I thought the
song went two out of three bad. Okay, Mickey Spagnola's
here Nate Newton coming out of the bullpen once again
to join mickshots here on Dallascowboys dot Com this Friday
with the as Bill would say, football players on the

(00:51):
football field right now, the Cowboys going through what they
call is their mock game, So it's basically it's a
walk through practice, although they do have helmets on and
jerseys and they just basically review who's on what team
and especially for special teams, who's on on the field.

(01:14):
So we have tours going through Nate Newton.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yes we do.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Uh and uh, you know too bad? They I think
they can hear.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Us, Can y'all hear us out there? I don't y'all
can hear?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah? All right, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Too to be picking up pick that girl up for
your mom, But don't yeah, get that girl.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, yeah, good. It's been a good Friday, great Friday.
The rain finally stopped.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I don't care like we like the mail man. We're
gonna keep coming.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
And that's what mix shots does, right, it doesn't matter.
There's a holiday, right. I think there's maybe two people
upstairs working as good besides myself and me and Nate,
and we appreciate him.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We got Chris on it. We got Chris on the wheels.
Is steal back there spending?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
That's right? Yeah, no, you know the holidays over, yes,
it is right. Christmas.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know, I'm a Christmas man, and I pray every Christmas.
I thank the Lord I save you. But I promise
you this right here, my friend, I've worked since nineteen
eighty six every Christmas, somehow, somehow, some way, indirectly or directly. Man,
I love it. I love it. Being a cowboy is

(02:32):
a unique and special thing, whether it's a direct cowboy
being on that field or indirectly working with you and
the other guys and all the guys that I worked with,
and Chris in the back and Jazz and Jesse and
all those guys. I get excited, man.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So if I remember correctly you at least played once
or twice on Christmas. I think once, yes, the ninety
five season, right, yes.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I think. Yeah, I didn't even know that. I did
not even know.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
That at Phoenix, right, yes, went out there and it
was hot. That was the game you had to win
to clinch the number one seed. Remember on the on
the rate on the way out San Francisco got beat.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh I remember that? Can I tell the story I had?
We were on the plane going there, and somehow this
is when you start can being able to watch games
on the on the plane on the plane, and it
didn't always happen, no way, but you can start watching games.

(03:38):
Were watching this game, and then I'm telling you every
player's mind, I thought it was only in my mind.
I'm like, man, we don't want to we need home
field advantage. We we we we don't, you know, we
don't want to have to face forty nine ers, you
know what I'm saying. At and boy with Green Bay

(04:01):
did that right there. I had never seen Mike Iver
run so fast in his life. He ran up for
down the house. Yeah again, And I thought I was
a little thinking that way, bro. Yeah, And so that
was a good thing because even though you don't fear team.
Matchups are everything, man, especially when you have two high

(04:23):
caliber teams. Matchups are everything, Yes, sir, And.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Then you missed the Christmas Day game they played Tennessee
to end the season in two thousand.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, I went gone, gone, right, Yeah, I was out
of the league.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
I remember that game because he told me no more.
Troy was injured.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
He was out.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, the backup quarterback, Randall Cunningham, yes, suddenly had a
hamstring pull. He was out, and right the third quarterback
had to start the game. Oh it was cold, Yes,

(05:11):
it was miserable. They got shut out. I believe no
one wanted to play that game, right, well, in Nashville,
and that was another Christmas Day game I remember covering.
So yeah, at least we were home for Christmas. Let's
put it that way. Because some teams had to play.

(05:32):
I think two teams last night had to play. Yes,
I don't know how well they played. Six to three. Wow,
I think I said. I was watching and I said, god,
I can't believe this game was six to three. My
wife goes what sport and it was football. We do

(05:59):
have what I thought we were going to see is
during Siriani's press conference after their practice on Friday, said
that Jalen Hurts was still in concussion protocol. So you're thinking,
if it's Friday and he's still in concussion protocol and

(06:21):
hasn't practiced all week, it's probably Kenny Pickett starting the
game Sunday for Philadelphia. The game starts at noon Central,
so that evens things up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yes, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Both backup quarterbacks having to start the game.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yes, And thanks Chris mean for breaking that on me.
I saw it on the phone and I shipped there
over there to mix. It's just it's just making even
more intriguing because Philadelphia needs these wins. Yeah, they need
these wins to stay safely in the slot that they're
in and every game because now we have a great
chance of competing heavily against him this we have a

(07:00):
great chance. We've been playing on fumes all year. They
you know, with your quarterback out, we mayn make some
some crossroads, in roads whatever you want to call it
on this pickey kid. We should be able to get
some pressure on them, man, because unless unless, unless they

(07:23):
want to give it to one guy forty five times.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And don't be surprised if they do. So what Nate
is saying that they can just ride Saquon, Yes, sir who,
by the way, and that's another storyline. We'll do that
storyline first before we get to the quarterback situation. Saquon
Barkley needs to needs two hundred and sixty eight yards

(07:52):
in these next two games. He's got one thousand, eight
hundred and thirty eight yards right now, and he's trying
to break Eric Dickerson single season rushing record, which is
two thousand, one hundred and five yards. So the last
thing you want to happen is he gains the necessary

(08:14):
two hundred and sixty eight yards against you to be
able to break the record. I saw a story Dickerson's
not all about having his record, Bro, what do you
think about that?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah? You know, I was to you on our flagship station.
How you got on Dickinson because he didn't break it
in enough time? Yeah, for the last guy, but I
just don't want it to be against us. Yeah, and
missus Dickinson. I watched you break the record. I'm happy
for you, but I'm just hoping. I don't even want

(08:50):
to rush for one hundred yards. I just don't I've
never wanted for the Dallas Cowboys to be to help
anybody do anything that's against us, right, yeah, So I
hope we keep him around ninety yards. I hope he
get out of the game healthy and safe, no touchdowns
and around ninety yards rushing. And you got to go

(09:12):
do it against your old team. I think it is
in New York next week, the Giants. Yeah, go do
it against your old well that would yeah, right, yeah,
make sure yeah, yeah, So don't do it against us.
I'm hoping we hold him down. I'm really hoping we
hold him down. I hope we you know.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
So Dickerson when he was asked about his single season
record potentially being broken, if he was for it, and
he said absolutely not. I don't pull any punches on that.
So if you held the record, you know, Everson, when
Trayvon Diggs was looking like he could break his, uh, well,

(09:53):
it was a Cowboys record, but it was the most
interceptions in a single season by a player, the eleven
since nineteen eighty one, he was all for of the
record being broken. Right, if you held a record, do
you want it broken?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
It just depends on what that record is, Okay, it
depends on what that, Because some records are sacred, man,
some records will be talked about forever, right, and if
you get if you can hold a record like for
thirty forty years, now, that's.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Something offensive linemen usually don't.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
We don't have records. We always a part of people records,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And if it wasn't for you, these guys are offensive linemen.
These guys aren't breaking Russil records.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
But I don't know. I've never held the record of
that magnitude, so I don't know. You know, you have
to be in them shoes. I don't wouldn't I want
in them shoes. Now. I wasn't even a part of
Emmetts when he broke the record.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Over, but you were part of the yards along the way?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, I was twelve thousand of that one hundred. But
you know them crucial ones where he got the ball
and they stopped the game, they get even though they
got whooped.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, Seattle. Right. So anyway, so as the story goes along,
when Dickerson the previous record was OJ Simpson, he had
two thousand and three yards rushing, right, but he did

(11:27):
that in fourteen games. It was a fourteen game season.
When Dickerson broke the record, he broke it in fifteen games,
and then he had another game to add.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
On to it.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So now he's looking at, well, he better break it
in sixteen games, because if it's seventeen games, he had
one extra game. So we'll see what that happens. I
thought it was interesting to see the list of guys
who have rushed for more than two thousand yards. Obviously

(12:02):
Dickerson with the post two thousand, one hundred and five,
Adrian Peterson had two thousand and ninety seven, Jamal Lewis
two thousand and sixty six yards, Barry Sanders two thousand
and fifty three yards, Derrick Henry twenty twenty seven, and
I forgot that. I shouldn't have forgot it. Terrell Davis

(12:25):
two thousand and eight yards. Wow, And that was the
year they won a Super Bowl. Right. Took the pressure
off of John Elway as you didn't have to be
totally him. So that'll be one storyline we're talking about
going into that game and you're figuring that with a
backup quarterback, they're gonna want to run the ball.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
It's something about that all offensive coordinator who's thinking he's
gonna outsmart the Holeue Kellen. Yeah, for some reason, I
don't know why, when coming to the Cowboys when he
was the coordinator, when he played, when he comes against
us as a coordinator, he got approves to the world
he can throw the ball. And not only does he

(13:10):
proves the way they can throw the ball, he want
to throw it long. He want to make it where
they have to hold the ball a long time. So
I don't know what to think about this game. But
continue to think how you usually think you're playing against
the Cowboys, playing of coaching for the Cowboys. Think long,
think long pass, Give Parsons every opportunity, don't be.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Handed it off. Yes, well, the first time around, Philadelphia
ran for one hundred and eighty seven yards on thirty
eight carries on the Cowboys. So they averaged four.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Point nine how many carrier game?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thirty thirty eight carries, So they ran it a lot.
And remember that game, it was fourteen to six.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
It halfened, right, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
And so chances are they're going to try to load
up on the run with their with their running back.
Now the difference will be and I think we saw
this in this past. I get my days. Baltimore played
on Thanksgiving Day, right the Christmas Day, Christmas Day, Yeah, Thanksgiving.

(14:22):
That it makes a difference, I think now, I think
Derrick Henry's really good, but I saw some holes that
open up as wide as those window pages. Well, part
of that, I think is the defense has to worry
about Lamar Jackson rushing the ball, So you got to

(14:43):
worry about two guys. You can't just concentrate on one.
Will McClay was doing a he got on the board
diagram and some plays that they run, and he pointed
out that when Baltimore started, they would have Derrick Henry

(15:03):
kind of offset to one side or the other of
the quarterback. Well, they decided that because of Lamar Jackson's
running ability, they put him behind the quarterback. So now
the defense doesn't know which way he's going right or
likely to go, and it's made a huge difference. Well
for Saquon Barkley, I'm sure it has helped that Jalen

(15:27):
Hurts has the ability to run the football, and so
that makes it more difficult to stop. Just say, okay,
we're going to zero in on stopping him. Well, Jalen Hurts,
keep the ball and run on you, right, So I
think that has helped. You know, I heard Jerry say
that early when everybody's saying, well, why didn't you sign

(15:51):
Saquon Barkley other than they couldn't afford it from a
money standpoint. And I know you don't want to hear that.
He's got Jayalen Hurts next to him in front of them,
and the ability of Hurts to run helps him take
defensive tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
No, I'm talking about Jalen Hurts for Saku.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Oh okay, same thing right for Lamar and Henry. Yeah,
it's the same thing, you know. Uh, I tell like
this here, Mick. Uh, you just but you gotta prepare.
You gotta be in your you gotta be in your gaps,
you gotta play your responsibility. And yes, uh those are

(16:36):
top ten or fifteen offensive lines and along with great
running back quarterback duos which you still got to compete.
We want to see whether this team will be at
come Sunday at twelve, flex right into twelve. We just
want to see what this team will be. We want
to see what this team. Continue to play hard, continue

(16:57):
to play smart, especially defensively. They've been playing pretty smart
football and being opportunistic and getting takeaways, getting off the
field and on third down. So we'll see. And the
most important thing that Zim and this defense I've been
able to do it but led by partisans, is keeping
people out of the end zone. So can they do

(17:21):
that this week? Can they replicate what happened last week?
I mean it was it was a dirty game right
down to the end of the game. But once again
the defense took away touched We thought it was a
sure touchdown in the end zone with Jordan Lewis. And
then that end of the game, we saw the other
cornerback Bland come up and he thought he was ran over,

(17:42):
but he had the ball, and you thought he had
got ran over, but he had.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
You got to make plays, yes, sir, so the first
time around, and I know we got to take a
break here, I said. They rushed for one hundred and
what did I say, one hundred and eighty seven yards?
They held Barkley to sixty six yards? Yes, okay, but
he averaged four point seven. The hard part was Hertz

(18:07):
ran for fifty six yards on just seven carries, so
they did not do a good job of keeping him
in the pocket. He also ran for two touchdowns. Yes, Now,
if I remember correctly, one of them was a tush
push a one yard a one yard run, but he

(18:27):
did get away on an eight yard touchdown run. So
he had sixty six averaged eight yards of carry and
two touchdowns. If they don't have that factor, then I
think the Cowboys have a better chance to maybe slow
down Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yes, yes, they do. They do. All of that plays
a big part in it, man, all of it. Just
come out with the same physicality you came out with
it last week. Stay in your lanes. Tackle. They were
better tackles last week. So just do those things. Replicate
what you showed last week, and this team should be okay.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
All right, Well, we'll continue on mix shots here on
Dallascowboys dot Com and kind of talk about what the
Cowboys need to do to slow down Kenny Pickett, if
indeed he is the Eagles quarterback.

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(22:00):
I don't Know why they didn't nominate Nate Newton for
Fan of the Year.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
No, I don't need it. I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Get you just don't go to the game all dressed
up and Nate shows up in his coat and tie
when they got a pregame show from the stadium. Got
to do it, right, man, or a young lady win
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show on Sunday, Right, yes, twelve early one, right eleven

(22:26):
o'clock Cowboys Eagles. And understand that the Cowboys at seven
and eight, would like to do their very best to
win the last two games and get to nine and
eight and at least say we had a winning season.
And as for the Eagles twelve and three, they need

(22:52):
to win one more game to be able to clinch
the NFC East title. I think everybody assumed that was
going to happen. But Washington's sitting there with two games behind.
So if Philadelphia should lose both games and Washington wins

(23:15):
their last two, they finish in a virtual tie and
we'll go to a tiebreaker.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
So how about that? And this was a team that
was hot on the heels of a first seed in
the NFC playoffs and a bye, so that loss to
Washington hurt them, not as bad as it or hurt
the Cowboys, but they need to be able to win

(23:43):
the game. And now you know the concussion protocol with
Jalen Hurts still in it as a Friday, and usually
to get out a concussion protocol, you have to have
an extensive of workout one day, and then you've got

(24:03):
to be able to come back the next day and
be able to show you could do it again without
any repercussions from the workout. So now that it's Friday,
he's running out of time. So chances are it would
seem Kenny Pickett, we'll be able to We'll have to
start the game. And prior to him going into the

(24:25):
game against Washington this past week, he had only taken
seven snaps during the season and only attempted three passes. Now,
he did a decent job, right. They ended up, you know,
scoring thirty three points. You'd have thought that was enough
to win a game, but in the end they kicked

(24:46):
too many field goals. So you're facing a young quarterback
without much NFL experience. If you're the defensive coordinator of
what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'm doing everything I can to slow down miss a
bar Okay, you got you got to do that. And
now you give them all different types of look blitz looks,
blitz sometime not blitz, different uh secondary looks. I mean
you you just you mix it up on him and
see if he's ready for that. I mean and uh,

(25:19):
like I said, pick your poison when you blitz, because
you can still throw the game well or uh a
saquon out of that backfield. So you have to always
know those two guys that coming out of the backfield.
But you give this kid, uh as many safe, different
calculated looks as you can as the defensive coordinated without

(25:40):
compromising your defense, you know, because they have the weapons
and a lot of times, Uh, these these guys know
that Mter Pickett ain't. Yeah, as what was as in
line with with their routes and the timing is the
word I was looking for. I know their time it

(26:01):
may not be as great as it was with Jalen Hurt.
So you either you got to speed him up. You
got to get him off his mark. He got so
much sacking. He's just giving good looks and bat down
a couple of them balls and keep his confidence low.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
So for.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
This year, Pickett is fifteen of twenty seven for one
hundred and forty eight yards an average of five and
a half yards an attempt, one touchdown, one interception. So
he doesn't have a lot of experience playing in this offense.

(26:46):
And I'm with you on make sure you stop Barkley
because if he can just rely on that and have
to throw every now and then, yeah, you're gonna have problems.
But if you can slow down bark least somehow, some way,
then get pressure on him.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yes, right, yes, sir, because.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Young young quarterbacks who haven't played a heck of a lot,
the game speeds up in the pocket. Yes, you don't
want them to get comfortable. You think the Cowboys can
do it with their front or do they have to
load up? But that's where stopping Barkley comes into play, right.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Right, You stop Barker, slow him down, and put them
in enough third down situations that's beyond four yards if
you third and four, third and five thirty six, and
depending on where you're at on the field, you keep
them on their ends of the field, on their side
of the fifty. Now that makes your coordinator aly itchy.

(27:49):
You know he want to make sure because he don't
want to be punting that ball, you know. So here
we go. If you can get him at his reason,
if you can get up and press a little bit,
I would uh really mix up with coverages because if
you press a little bit uh and and and make

(28:10):
him come off of that first read, that gets Parsons
in company a second chance to get at him. You know.
But if he coming back dropping back and he hit
his first read, got a swing to the backfield, and
we're not tackling well at which we should tackle well
to get these guys now now that that you know,
that gives them confidence. You don't want any quarterback young old.

(28:32):
If they can get confidence, if these backs can help
them are these tight ends by coming off that first read,
you know they can hurt you. But if you take
away that first read, which is Smith for either Brown
and he and make him go to this second read,
that just that just gives you a defensive line of
chance to get to him. Or he gives coach when

(28:53):
he goes to those double A gaps a chance to
pick one of those gaps where they turn the wrong
way and let one of those linebackers in the on it.
But you gotta hit him, you gotta disrupt him.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, because if he if he gets comfortable in the pocket,
then he has more time to go through his reads.
And let's factor in that he is playing with a
couple really good wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yeah. That Advante Smith and AJ Brown. The dudes a beast.
I mean, AJ Brown is your big play guy. Smith
is your mid Smith can do at all. If they
didn't have a J. Brown, you would see Smith doing
some miraculous things at number six. I think it's his number.

(29:40):
This kid is legit. I mean he is special man.
And when Sa Kuan broke on his sixty eight yard
jaunt last week, I saw him just running, just run
down field and catch yeah, catch, just running easily. The
other guy that was chasing Barkley, they was struggling. He

(30:02):
just cruised past everybody, just running and talking. You can
see his hands waving, you know. I mean that's pure speed, bro.
You can run next to a guy that's wide open
and you running and talking to a guy and the
other guy struggling. Yeah. So I'm glad he don't throw
to him as much as they as they should Devontae Smith,
because they have AJ Brown, who's gonna ask for that ball?

(30:25):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
St more he leads. He leads the Eagles sixty four catches.
He's already got one thousand and forty three yards, So
think about that. He's averaging sixteen point three yards a catch.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
As AJ Brown. Yes, yes, he's a big play guy.
He's a great contestant ball catcher. I mean, when guys
are hanging up with him, he can still come down
with that ball. He has more than six percent chance
coming down with that ball. So he's special. You know,
both of these guys are special. It ain't who do

(31:00):
you double right? It's you who do you make sure
you tackle, make sure your technique is right. It ain't
It ain't about I'm gonna put the safety over here
to safety over there because he got I think they're
equally good. Now people favor A J. Brown, but that's
because Devonte Smith run intermediate routes like no other. He's

(31:23):
a route running guy, man. And when you got a
guy that can hurt you underneath, that just makes that
thing getting over the top a little bit more easier.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
So one of the things that cowboys have done. And
maybe you can explain to everybody how this works out
is in a lot of recent definite passing situations. Uh,
Mike Zimmer has loaded the box. They got six guys
on the line of scrimmage. Yes, now sometimes they all

(31:53):
don't come, but if they do, problematic for the offensive line,
knowing who you have to pick up.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
The thing about it is they are good enough and
experienced enough. You're not gonna you're not gonna fool them. Now, yeah,
you're not gonna fool but you may fool the quarterback.
You know, the quarterback may be looking up thinking the
guy coming off the left side, but really is the
guy coming off the right side? And they don't have

(32:26):
the hots right, But that that that that old line.
They pretty seasoned, and they pretty good, and they're nine
somebody ten. They gonna pick up who they're supposed to.
And I've seen Barkley and I've seen game, well both
of them block their guys. So what when he does that?
That's why I say it's got to be very calculated
because this offensive line is experienced and they are good.

(32:48):
Where the mix up gotta come is hoping that he
has no rhythm with his Wizards receivers yet, like it
even took Cooper rush a veteran guy two weeks. Yeah,
to get into a rhythm. So we if we can
keep him out of rhythm. Because he threw a nice
sesch down in the game last week, and I'm talking

(33:08):
about Picket, but the interception he threw, he threw it
into three guys, and uh, and I don't even think
Brown was kind of expecting he Brown went and ran
little in ren route, kind of looked and he go
three guys just and then he is an interception. So, uh,

(33:30):
you got to confuse him more than anything. I think
you have to confuse the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And I think when the Cowboys have been placing that
many on the line of scrimmage, it's not always Michael
Parsons rushing on the outside right, so he's coming in
the middle or he's looping in the middle, and that
causes some confusion, I would imagine for the offensive line.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
It does. And because the offensive line in the running
back has the work in concert. And a lot of
times when you're running games, especially when you have an
outside linebacker or even a corner, sometimes that done eased
up in that back though he has them, but they
run tackle out in out. You get what I'm saying

(34:11):
now they passing guys and that here here comes this
this safety or this corner or this outside lineback of
looping coming all the way back in. Do you want
to be sure that you're while your running back and
pick up that defensive men if you say, hey, we're
gonna pass him out to you, or do you say
just ease back inside and take that and take that

(34:35):
that that safety or that linebacker and loop back inside.
So most people that they're running back just maneuver its
way back inside. A couple of times we were good
enough to let Darren Johnson cut that in guy and
we took care of what was inside. So it's just
and you.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Have like two seconds to decide, right.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, it's all. It's all on the move. It's already
been preordained. Yeah, but can you can you make it
come to fruition? Is what to deal is?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Because I think we've seen, you know, with the return
of Michael Parsons, the Cowboys sacks have certainly picked up
his return pressure. And it's not all him, but he
does have eight and a half sacks since return, uh,
and a lot of it is him looping inside and
the guard or the center or taking care of something else. Yes,

(35:25):
and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, look who's.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Coming and what in The speed that he generates is
hard to recover. It's all about with parsons. You can
see him, but are your feet and feet and hands
quick enough to catch up with your eyes because you
can see him, but that speed is something else. That
speed kills man extra quarterback.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
And and and he's going to be he's going to
be ready to eat too, because he wants to get
to ten sacks.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Right, and I think he's he wanted to prove the
Philly you know, that he can have success against Philly.
He's tweeted out something.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh he said it yesterday.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, he wanted to.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I don't like Philip.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah he want to. He want to. And and the
thing is, it's all about the matchup. Uh, you've not
had success on the right tackle. And I promise Shane Johnson, Yeah, yeah,
I promise you if you get four sacks and they
on the two of them on the guard and two
of them on the left tackle, you know, five years

(36:28):
from out about hey man, Lane Johnson stopped it. Now
they gonna notice that you have four sacks. Get them
sacks bro, just about match ups. Go, don't try to
just run over Lane Johnson. I mean, give me one
or two reps. Let him know you will come over there.
But but you got four of the guys that you
can go whoop up on.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
And he only needs a half a sack to get
to double digit sacks.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, for every.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Season hit he's played now in the NFL. Uh one
other thing on Lane Johnson, I told you that Bill
was illustrating some place right there was a running play.
He blocked four different guys going downfield, got the guy
at the line of scrimmage, got the linebacker picked off

(37:15):
with safety, and somebody else Will was diagramming each block.
So he's he's pretty darn good.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yes, he is.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
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(40:25):
these last few games and the Cowboys won four or
five here as he went through surgery to repair that
repair that ankle. So from speaking of injuries, the Cowboys
had seven guys that did not practice yesterday, okay, and one, two, three.

(40:51):
Four of them were starters. Now one of those was Lamb,
so we can eliminate him. Malik Hooker was rest non
football injury. He did not practice. Nick Vigil, who started
for Kendricks last week, once again did not practice. And

(41:12):
he told me he hasn't practiced on a regular basis
since hurting his foot against Pittsburgh. That's a long time ago, yes,
And then he comes in and starts his first game
of the year, plays ninety six percent of the snaps
and leads a team with ten tackles. Donovan Wilson cropped

(41:33):
up on Thursday with a knee. He did not practice,
and I said Vigil, Hooker, Chuma Odogo, who did start
the game, he still got this toe that's bothering him,
did not practice on Thursday. We'll see where that one
goes or if they have to go towards Tyler Geiton,

(41:56):
because they kind of switched off in the game until
Get missed his block that one time. Which do I
know what you want? You want guiding out there getting snaps?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Not anymore? Okay, The thing is now what you fear
is him. He's already low confidence, lose job confidence, get
even lower, but they've giving him some reps. It comes
to a point where you have to think about the
team and it's overall psyche and great thing happened about

(42:35):
six games ago. A guy who I've been begging to
play played in his name was awesome Riches. The cat
got out of the bagh. Oh this guy wasn't drafted
in the first round, but this guy played all right
for the first time. He really outplayed your first round pick.
You can't have that happen. You got to stay with

(42:57):
this bad as bad it's bad, and hope that it
gets it's good. But once you see something better, it's
hard to sell to the fans, and it's definitely hard
for your teammates to be looking like, hold on, man,
you got sixty million standing back there getting beat to death,
and you can do something about it and won't so
when the cat got out of the bag and then
a tumor came back, which I you know, I did

(43:20):
not want this guy in the game, which I did
not want a dog in the game. Apologized. I will
apologize every chance I get, I'll apologized. He has done
way better than I thought he could do. Right, and
he's been a.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Love which is not great, but he did better.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
He did better. Yes, So now the great thing about
being a number one pick is you will get first
in most shots when the season is over to improve
your physical, your mental, and your spirit spiritual standings. You
got a chance to build. So yeah, I excuse me,

(43:57):
I'm sorry for that. I like that. This kid. Uh,
we'll get another shot at the Cowboys haven't giving up
on him. But you you, you let the cat out
of the bag, and it was let out of the
bag when Austin Richards did what he did, then a
doga showed up and did what he doing, what he's doing,
you know, and Cooper Rush has been the recipient of that.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Well guess what, yes, sir, speaking of awesome Richards, if
he's ready, he's eligible to come off and injured reserve,
you know, missed his.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Window.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Choir four games.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah, but he's missed a window of opportunity to the
thing about it, and see, I hate it. I got
to bring this up because I promised myself. Every time
I think about it, I'm glad that ain't one of
the guys that Missus Jones got to put on my
Christmas list to sign. We still have awesome riches this
second year. Yes, so yeah, so we got him at

(44:56):
least another year. So I'm like, man, my Christma of this.
It's getting bigger. It's getting big and bigger.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So unfortunately they're playing better and better.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Better, Yes we are. This is another test for the
Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
All right. I don't think my cohorts.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
That your picks and all of that. Oh yeah, I
got your picks.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Let's see if they did it or if they just
forgot because they were off right.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Picks to click? Oh man, we should have been starting that.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
I don't see.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Let's see, well, give us yours.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Well I hadn't even thought of my pick to click,
but it needs to be. And I know we've banned
this because we could pick Michael Parsons every week. I
think he's even more important now because this defense has
to play well. To not have Cooper Rush have to

(45:55):
put up thirty points to run the game. Yes, so
uh And I was going to pick the Cowboys to
win this game until three o'clock yesterday. CD goes out
and I see Jalen Tolbert and for those that are
watching this with his two fingers here wrapped together because

(46:17):
he dislocated the pinky finger, I think maybe Eagles twenty
three seventeen. I think it's a close game, but I
think we've hit the two biggest things. You've got to
slow down Saquon Barklay and you've got to get pressure
on Picket, Yes, and then you give yourself a chance

(46:41):
to win even though you're on the road because they've
got a backup quarterback. So I know who you pick
to win always, But who's your pick to click? Who
has to have a really good performance?

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Our inside three versus their inside Threealen Carter, Milton Williams,
and Jordan Davis. They're inside three big stud tackles. We
gotta deal with them. If we can't deal with them,

(47:17):
this would be a very ugly game for the Dallas Cowboys.
So Carter leads this thing.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Those three guys, do they remind you of maybe three
guys you had to play against back in the day
against the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, those Jerome Brown and Seth and Reggie
and yeah, all of those. Yeah, but these guys are
not quite there yet. But I'm telling you, Jalen Jalen,
Jalen Carter is it. He is smart, he is athletic,
he is huge, he's twitchy. It's just like the kid
that just left here last week, Vita Vita. Yeah. Man,

(47:54):
if Vita would lose thirty pounds, he would be unstoppable,
you know. And that's where Jayalen at now because he's
still young. Vita's been playing seven eight years. But Jalen
is still young, so you know, the bigness ain't bothering
him right now. That's number ninety eight. He'll beast man.
He is slippery, he is powerful, he's explosive. I mean,

(48:15):
he he is it man.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
So which guy's tougher, Jordan Davis or Jayleen?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Give me number ninety eight, brother, Yeah, and then give
me number ninety three, Milton Williams kid from La Tech,
And then I'll take Big number ninety. Big number ninety
is a two down player, first and second downright, depending
on the run of pass. These other two guys can
play the whole.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Game ninety eight. Just watching him last week.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, he's got a.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Little mean streaking.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh yeah, and I think about it. If you get
the best of him, he don't get mad. I watched him.
You get the best of him. But if he get
the best of you, be ready for him to start talking. Yeah,
he'll start talking. Man. Yeah, Oh I love him. Man.
I you know, I hate Philadelphia, but I like great
players that have the potential to be great and start

(49:02):
showing you that they can be great.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Right, Well, we pulled this off, Nate, Yes, sir, I
don't mean this in a bad way to anybody else,
but love having you on the show with me, man,
just like old days, right yeah, in the bat Cave,
in the Batcave, back at the Rent. Yeah, it was
me and Nate talking cowboys.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
All right, Well, that's what we've got for you today
on dallascowboys dot Com and we will be back, maybe
in full force on mix shots on Monday following this game.
And thank goodness, it's a noon start. Getting yeah, a
little bit earlier, you guys, getting done here a little
bit earlier. And the only other thing that needs to

(49:44):
happen is the Cowboys need to win the.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Oh they will.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
All I need is for Picket to give us two.
All right, you got it?

Speaker 2 (49:51):
So them second secondary get going right all right. That's
it for mix shots on this Friday. Hope everybody has
a good say weekend. See you on Monday.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Go Cowboys, Go Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
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