January 3, 2025 • 51 mins
Final Friday of the regular season, the Cowboys intent on winning final game, individual goals for players, will Trey Lance start at quarterback, Jerry’s thoughts on the coaching staff and an inside look at several positions to keep an eye on like receiver, offensive line and running backs. Mick Shots continues 11 a.m. Mondays going forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Cowboys.
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This is Mick shot, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
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And the official Dallas Cowboys app.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, there we go, Dallas boy. You just.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You can't play the we can't.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Are one more time. It's football Friday, and there are
as Bill would like to say, football players on the
football field. Cowboys going through their usual Friday sort of
walk through with helmets on and jerseys one more time,
preparing for a Sunday's last game of the season against
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the Washington Commanders. Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls with you on
mix shots on this glorious looking Friday here in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
For God.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I wish we win the playoffs, may wouldn't you? It
would be nice man. The weather is beautiful. It's like
you know, we're out there practicing, getting ready for the
first round of the playoffs, right no, no, no, note
not doing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That, which leads us to having to play the final
game of the season Sunday noon at at and T
Stadium against the Washington Commanders and you know, when I
was doing my fan segment, they wanted to make a
game pick, and I said, seriously, who gets right? And
it's like, it's like, well, tell me what Washington wants
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to do, because you know they're in Okay, so I'm
gonna ask you. For them to move from the seventh
seed to the sixth seed, they have to beat the Cowboys,
and then they have to have the Chicago Bears go
into green Bay and beat the passage that not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Having now does green Bay.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And then if if that happened, then green Bay would
be the seventh seed and Washington would be the sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Seed, which makes the opponent.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
What So if you're the seventh seed, you're playing the
number two seed, which is Philadelphia. If you're the sixth seed,
you're playing the loser of Detroit and who's not in Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The wait? Wait, Detroit? So they play each.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because they're playing each other? Okay, yes, yes, who would
you rather play in the first round? Philadelphia or that loser?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I would rather play Philadelphia only because your quarterback is
your number one quarterback is is he's still in concussion protocol?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I haven't checked that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I believe he's still in a concussion polar.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Or if he's not, they might be resting him right,
and they're gonna rest probably because they they cannot improve
or diminish their scene though.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
To all the people are gonna call Mickey and put
them on the X. Right now, is Washington does have
the sixth seed currently?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hm, they do?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Just letting you know, Okay, Okay has a seventh.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes, I thought it was the other way.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now Washington has a sixth seed. They have a better
conference record at eight and three. Green Bays conference record
currently is at six and five. They do have the
same record though, so so winning and losing is.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Not going to matter.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well, they have to win because if they lose or
at eleven and six and and if green Bay wins,
they'd be at twelve and five, so they would jump them.
But they have to win the game to win the
game that they stay at six. They lose the game
and green Bay beats beats Chicago, they flip flop.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, let's assume I'm just saying Green Bay's beating Chicago, right.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right, That's what I'm Yes, so they have to win.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I'm just saying for the people are going to call
you and say, hey, you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Washington has the six seed currently.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
All right, Well, my little paper here with the had
it messed up. Yeah, absolutely, that's okay. All right, so
Washington does need to play. They can't rest, so they're
going to bring it to us. And Jerry said, it's
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it's still the focus on the game. I want to
beat those guys this week. It's important. Let's go get
the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay. So having said that, are we tanking?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Are we letting some guys rest and look forward to
next season?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Are we're playing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Guys who are already injured and could possibly become even
more injured? All we risking all of that? Because if
we're not, then we're not really caring about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think the I think the injured guys are already out,
so uh oh, I printed out the injury report, left
it behind.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of course, I just want to see the roster. I
want to see with you.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Got to play everybody, because they already got the injured
guys out. These guys are already playing. So the only
decision they have to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is our This is our roster. If we were
it's going to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Be the same. They're not going to change the only
thing that's going to change is it seems like it
would do Trey Lance as solid to let him start.
Jerry said, for competitive reasons this morning, he's not saying
Mike has said the same thing. Now he's got a
press con or conference call at twelve thirty. I don't
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know if he'll change his tune during that or not.
Maybe producer Supreme can keep an.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Eye on what he has won about that Chris and
so peaking.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That would be to me, the only significant change. You
might say, Okay, I'm going to take a better look
at Deuce Vaughan and Hunter Lipke as the running back.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I hadn't seen much of Hunter lately.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Has he been Yeah, he's been in there, but he
hasn't got any carries. They always look at him as
you know, he could be a one back running.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Back for you, but he can also block and block.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He can block and you know Rico. I mean, the
only goal he would have in this game is the
gain one yard, which would mean he would have more
yards rushing in a season since Zeke had thirteen hundred
and twenty nineteen. So there are things to accomplish in
this game. The other consideration, and I don't think it's
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gonna be a consideration. Is so Cooper Rush had two
levels of playtime incentive percentage of snaps. The first one
was it was like forty four percent of the snaps
he would earn two hundred and fifty thousand extra bonus.
If he got fifty five percent of the snaps, he
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would earn another two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. All right,
so right now he's at fifty two percent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh, he didn't make He's not to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Use not to fifty five.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He ain't gonna make it so.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, But what they can do is say, thanks a lot.
When we negotiate for next year, we'll throw that two
hundred and fifty thousand. Because the bonuses, since they were
unlikely to be earned in I think the previous contracts,
it doesn't count against the cap until next year. So
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you could say, okay, here's five hundred thousand. We owed
you to fifty for being a good dude. We'll pay
you two fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Since when do people get paid in the NFL for
being a good dude? They happen they he was a
good dude.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
What happened to the NFL? Well, you know what, I'm
happy for the players.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know me, I'm old school and we got treated
like old school, and I'm just so I don't know
if I'm I'm I'm happy for them, or if I'm like, hey,
where's my uh, where's my good.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Luck chong, where's my stuff?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But if something was on the line, he would have
gotten right. So I would think the right thing to
do is to start Trey Lance, give him an opportunity.
But I think everybody needs to remember that he has
not started or played significant snaps in an NFL game
since the second week of twenty twenty two in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know, when you have significant you know, there are
times when you and I go back through through history
and talk about some of the things we experience.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It is kind of cool to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
The NFL is nothing like it used to be, right, man,
it's nothing like it. So do you remember if this
was if this was back in eighty eight or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
How about eighty nine? You remember the running back which
one Paul Palmer, right, yeah, chiefs right, and he had
I think play time incentives and he got benched for
the final game of this season. Jimmy said, you're not
going to be here next year. There's no sense wasting
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bonus money on you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, what does Jimmy care about bone money?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Because Jerry was hemorrhaging money back then.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But Jimmy had nothing to do with that. But he did.
Let let Jerry handle that. And see, I think that's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well, he probably did. He told him, don't play this guy.
He probably did and something happened because I remember he
was in the training room and I don't know if
they said, oh, he's got some sort of injury or
something like that, and they didn't play them. So I
think the lead running backs that game were Darryl Johnston
and I can remember you had another running back sort
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of a backup type of thing, and he ended up starting.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're not talking about Shaw, No, No, the running back
that got cut for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you remember that man?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He got cut Jimmy cut him for Christmas, cut for
because he fumbled the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
In a no meaningless in a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So it was eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Paul Palmer.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh, they don't have him on here. I'll find it. Oh,
I forgot his first name, Sergeant, that's his name. Sergeant
was his last name.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Oh, you're talking about the big full back. Yeah, yeah,
that's not Palmer.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, No, I'm saying he was the one started.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I can't remember his name. He indeed, big big guy, yeah,
big full back.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He and DJ ended up starting in place of Palmer
because they wanted to save salary.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Cap.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I can't remember his name. He's a good guy. We
had good times. We had good times with him. We
were losers, but we were having good times.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So it uh.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
His name was.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Roderick, Roderick sergeant.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So anyway, so I think I think they would take
care of I don't think that should matter if they
want to give Trey Lance a chance to go ahead
and start, and you know, from that standpoint, we can
have Will Greer be the backup quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And that's what I was wondering if Coop's not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right, Yeah, maybe not, because Will Green is going to
be the backup, right.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They could elevate him off the practice So they have
not yet. No, that wouldn't do that till Saturday. Okay, Yeah,
i'mould just say I don't know if they would or not.
I'm just saying why not, right, And it would give
him a little bump in salary from practice squad pay
to one game in the in the regular season, so
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I could see them doing that after that, douce Vaughan,
maybe a couple series. I don't know how much they
want to put Rico out there. Hunter Lepke give him
some snaps, and I bet at some point they would. Awesome,
Richards is ready to get back and play, so he
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was active this past week. Maybe they get him out there.
And then from a guard standpoint, you got Hoffmann and TJ.
Bass with Zach still out obviously, so you can get
them in there. And there's no sense extending Tyler Smith
if you don't want to, but you want to put
your best available, I think offensive line out there to
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give Trey Lance a chance.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And that's the best.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well that's what they got, right, Yeah, that's what they've
already been doing. So you might get those guys out
there at some point. So but other than that, you're
playing everybody on defense. You realize they've played seven different
cornerbacks this year.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yes, I started, and they still need I'm surprised they
hadn't signed someone off the practice field for this game.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well they can elevate pride again, Okay, Yeah, and I
think I haven't seen it officially, but I understand maybe
those fines that are getting thrown out, they might have
reduced those things for that little Someone said something about yeah,
but they haven't. I haven't seen it posting yet. I mean,
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the poor guy would have paid the play, right, So,
but yeah, they can do that. They probably have to
bring up another linebacker. I would think maybe there's a
wide receiver that they want to look at, although they've
looked at all the wide receivers already.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So the one who's in the red right now, what's
his name in the red meaning he got fined?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh it was it was Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, I was books.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, okay, and then Troy Pride off the practice squad.
So I would imagine they've got to do that again.
You know, I guess they have to start Andrew Booth.
I don't know that there's any other options. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You act as if he's the worst cornerback in.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, I don't know that he's the worst. But he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Been, isn't he.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
What do you always say there's a reason he's a back,
that he's a backup.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Or would spend the majority of the season on the
practice practice squad. Right, yeah, so but other than that,
on defense, you're you're playing the guys. Now, you know
Michael wants to play. He needs a half a sack, okay,
to get double digit sacks and be one of like
two or three guys, uh to have double digit sacks
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in their first four seasons.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You know, when you look at Micah's decision, well, I
don't know if the decision is made yet, but when
you start comparing that with Saquon Barkley, I would imagine
they decided to keep Barkley out, even though you're talking
about chasing history here.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I don't know if Barkley is if this is his
decision or not, but I have to think that if
they left it up to him that he would want
to play.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He sounded like, well you got to say it. Yes,
of course he said he was good with it. Yeah,
that the team is more important than But again by asterisk, though,
what's that that if he if he broke it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's in seventeen games. Well, well, Dickinson has no aspect
on his When he OJ bro We're talking about two
games difference between oj and Dickison.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, there's a bit there's something there.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Right, the other guy that's got something on the line,
Cavante Turpens averaging thirty three point six yards kickoff return
and the NFL record belonging to the very important Jim Duncan.
That's who owns nineteen seventy thirty five point four. So
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he would need a big return to push his average
up two yards. And you know what, when I was
asking about it, he.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Knows about it. He does.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I said, just go over there and tell him
to kick it to you. Quit the touchback stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Right now, they have to win the game, right, so
that's not to do that. Maybe if they didn't have
to win the game, they might do him a solid
and kick it to him, But now they have to
win the game. Talking about the commander, they may not
kick you. No, they may not. Well they won't. They
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Speaker 2 (21:01):
Record in the case.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, so we discussed the quarterback thing. Your thoughts on
giving Trey Lance to start? Uh, you know if they
do that.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I saw him in preseason, and you know, you know,
I was all about the Trey Lance experience. I saw
him in the preseason game and I was still all
about the Trey Lance experience.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Season started. I was about the.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Cowboys, Dak winning if he get hurt, Cooper Rush winning,
and that's where that's where I'm at. Still, Cooper Rush,
you don't get to relax because you're not in the playoffs.
You get to continue to show people who you are.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
People say with nature you're speaking with a double tone.
Well why not play Trey Lance. Well, it's some wide
receivers out there want to know that this quarterback where
to throw the ball and how to place that ball.
So Cooper Rush gives you a better chance to evaluate
the rest of these wide receivers, ie Lie the kid
from from from uh the Panthers be a g o bingo?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, so yeah bingo, and so.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Was there about.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so we got to.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I want to see. I want to see because if
we if one of these receivers can show some spark
in this last game. Maybe I'll get off of my
first round pick being a wide received. Maybe I doubt it,
but you know, I want to see what these dudes
can do, and I don't believe Trey Lance gives me
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that that chance to see that. I don't want to
see him run. I can go get a running a
running back. We got a bunch of them. I want
to see him throw.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
If you're gonna let him throw, repeat it from the
ten yard line down to the rison, I'm with that.
But if you're gonna be out there were running all
these options and all.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Want to do and I think I think that's what
they have in mind. If indeed they go that direction.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'm glad you brought the wide receivers because, uh, these backups, man,
I have to admit, they have been extremely inconsistent for
this team this year.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Uh ceedee Lamb started off uh really really uh disappointing,
but stepped up and showed just one of them. Man,
this guy he makes you forget all about that BS man.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's just how good he is.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He's number eighty eight, but he.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
There's a reason for that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So, but when you're talking about these other guys, I
gotta get more. I was very disappointed, and except for
number three, I'm sorry. Except for Cooks, I'm so uh
disappointed in the other players. There were times when they
did step up and make plays, but I don't want
to see the amazing play. I want to see the
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consistent play, and I didn't see consistent play out of them.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You know, there were times.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
When then I'm putting it right there where I need
you to have it where you want to have it,
and I need you to catch it. And there are
times when I didn't put it where I need to
put it, but I need you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
To come up with a.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That was things on the scholarship sheet. Oh his catch radius, well,
I would like to see it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And you know, you know who taught me about catch,
radious Drew Pearson.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Drew Pearson talked about how wide receivers these days they
want everything to be here. Drew Pearson told Roger start
back anywhere here is a good pass. Yes, I don't
care if it's behind me. And that's the way they played.
So that thought process is that, Yes, that's not the
thought process of these younger receivers.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't know about younger receivers.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'm not gonna put a stamp on all of but
on these guys here.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That radius needs to be in in series if you're
gonna play Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
The first thing I'm telling my wide receivers as a
wide receiver, coach, son, I need for you to make
a play for this quarterback. He's young, he's in experience.
Make a play for him. What do you mean, coach,
that radius? Guess what they're talking about. When you're running
the route. There's no slipping, there's no falling, there's none
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of that. You know that happens. I'm sure that happens
in all games.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But you know, we have an usual amount of Oh
I slipped, you know, I remember they told us back
in that DB's hey, son, you can't slip.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's no slipping. You slipping of jobs.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Job, get go, get you some different claques.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, there's certain things that you just depend on.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You want reliability from your wide receivers, and there was
no U except for CD. There was no reliability there.
To whet my quarterback and say, man, I feel real
comfortable trying to put this in that tight window because
he's gonna fight for it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So to accentuate what you said. Cooks is unrestricted free
agent next year, so there's no guarantee he's back.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I do like cook put the Cooks in that category.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And they're looking at those young guys. Somebody's got to
step up now. Tolbert tied for the team lead with
six touchdown reception.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Let me give you an analogy right before we start.
I've seen guys in the NBA be twenty point scorers
on their team. Then they lead the team in on average,
but maybe fifteen ten points.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He said, why is that? Well?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Over here when team won, that was the only thing
they had over here is better players and better situation.
So he's got to share. And plus he ain't as
good as he thought he was. Let me say you,
by Toba, we had no one that's to throw to
with the other Tobarts. When showing up, Brandon Cooks was heard,
(27:15):
I lie, he had to make he had to make
a playoff, right, So I want to see starting this game.
You know it should have started last game, but starting
this game, let's target tobat ten or fifteen times.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Let's talk.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Hey man, you know it's what you want, it's what
you We've been the target you, bro, So get going.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Off to see that. I would love to see him,
shut me up. I would love to targeting him.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Don't this is this is for next year. When you
say the only I tell people that's right here. I've
been on the one in fifteen, I've been on the
three and thirteen. I don't know how bad it was
for you ever, you know, because you you you are
truly a fetter guy.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But I was.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I was still on that edge of they getting rid
of the fat guy and any time.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So the last game of the season.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
The fact that, yeah, I was praying that I had
a dud in front of me so I could just
more him over right.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
So if I'm if I'm Tobert, I'm I'm like, coach,
throw me the ball, Throw me the ball.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You want to you want to leave this game.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Tobart targeted fifteen times, twelve, one hundred and twenty yards too.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
CDs man, he went off.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Now make them when they say, hey, what we need
in the first round and that receiver sitting there, now, No,
We're gonna go on and get this d lineman. We're
gonna get this corner back somebody. You know, we got
somebody that that Hey, he showed what he was worth.
Are they saying, like, man, do you really believe if you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Can't check the box? I want to be able to
check the box on Tope.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And I gotta go get that wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Bro, go get somebody be called ceedee Lamb needs some help.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, you know, absolutely, especially if Brandon cooks. And we
saw what happened when it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And Brandon should be your third receiver. He should be
that slot guy that's moving around. He's situation the situation.
He's not that guy no more that can really get
you that thousand yards that you can run him anywhere.
Back in the day, and it's something about being youthful,
you can you know them bombs we saw. The few
bombs we saw were like, why is he running a bomb?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You remember? Go look at some film. Yeah, he used
to get those things because he could stop and he
had enough power. He don't have that room. So he
should be your third receiver.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So what you're saying is you need T Higgins. Oh Jesus,
but that's the s see what you want?
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You You talk too much cap for me to go
out and talk about the T Higgins.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Don't even do that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But that's the quality of receiver. I didn't say how
much it was gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You need to do this right here, because you're talking
out the side of no, no, no, you understanding.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Okay, how about this. You need Elvin Harper, Yeah, yeah
you do. So T Higgins is Elvin Harper.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
T I love you, baby.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
But Kim, when he didn't have Michael, that's when he
went to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yes, sir, yes, it's like, oh, we thought you were
a number one receiver. No, you were a number two receive.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You got Tampa.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, so that's what I meant. Yes, you know, receiver,
you're gonna go in free agency and spend another thirty
million dollars the man, goodness gracious. So yeah, you're you're
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right about that. And then from a defensive standpoint, they're
already playing everybody.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Yes, right now, you got to decide who you're gonna
and I'm going at this kid tober. But you know what,
I don't want to be the average guy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I know he's got a where.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
He's playing with the two fingers.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I know he's got a
bad situation. So I don't want to just but man,
we left training camp knowing that this kid was gonna
take that next step, and.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He had a really good draining camp.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
We left training camp knowing he's gonna take the next step,
and boy, he just like he slipped on something.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He didn't he The physicality isn't there. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't see the confidence in his routes. I don't
see the confidence in him being that targeted wide receiver.
And I was just so disappointed in it because I've
been hearing from Spags, I've been hearing from Bill about
how you know this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Is the dude be that guy? Yea, man, he did it. Man,
he even looked smaller out there I was.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I was looking for a guy who's bigger, a guy
who could take on a little bit more. I did
not see that from them. Now, having said that, I'm
just like nay Man, I'm me and me and you.
I'm drafted free agentsy man, I'm gonna give you a
shot because somebody gave us a shot. I'm gonna give
you a shot, but you gotta show me. You gotta
come out there, you gotta show me that you're gonna
be having some walls.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man like you show you're gonna be.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Larry Brown the last preseason game. Hey boy, you you're
gonna make the team to day.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You ain't gonna today. I'm watching you closer to that field.
That's why Larry went out there and showed out and
there you go, and then it started and there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I would like to see more of Mingo then, yeah tober.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Mingo Fornoing. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You don't care how now pronounce you.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Know, I don't care. If I see him, I want
to see. We gave him fourth. I want to see him.
This other kid Tobert, I want to see man. I mean,
you can't see with everybody. So it's two guys that
I've chosen that I want to see. Like, I think
our offensive line is set.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
We got uh Cooper.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, okay, So if Zach's not here next year.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Zach Zach exact, ain't here, I ain't playing that game.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Right guard is is whoever you wanted to be hot
from the bass, and then your left guard is the
all pro we got. He's stable, he's hard nosed. The
only thing we have to work on, the only thing
we have to work on is how you're gonna play guy,
because I think the money keeps still where he's at,
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but we have some type of running abilities, so still
takes upper level where he still is a C player.
Now if you run the ball enough, he becomes a
C plus or B player because he's a he's the
only he's a play action past time.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
If you ask him to block about forty five times
past and.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
It ain't happened, but you mix enough run in there,
he keeps his confidence.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So where would you like to fit Awsome richardson?
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Austin Richards He's not gonna take the left type of
job because that as long as a doga and guiding
over there, they're gonna they're gonna split that into guyde
and grow up.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So he he.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Agent, he's a he's a swing guy. I would like
to see him if he could play. It is at
the right tackle, but still is in trench right there right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Can Can he play guard?
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Yeah, Richard, he can play guard. He can play he
can play left guard. Nice, he will be a nice
left guard.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right guard. It's an opportunity to compete there.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
He he competed last year and they ignored him. He
was in training camp, him and TJ. Bass and Hoffmann
were the only three that played in every preseason game,
started every preseason game, played almost every position in preseason game.
They have proven they competed and they got in the
game and showed you. So now it's if you want
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to as a coach, is if you know when the
scouts sitting up saying, hey, we drafted these guys, you
got to play these guys. The guys that need to
be gone, it's the guys that's been here, it's you know,
they need you know, I don't want to call kids
out because people said I needed to be gone.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So you know, conceivably could serve as your backup swing
tackle and guard.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Richard Richards played left guard in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
You remember when he before he got hurt, he was
getting a rotation left tackle, Yes, right.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
And so he started two pres the games at left
tackle and then moved into the guard. So the kid,
the kid can play. Now can he play consistent? Like
we didn't know Bro Hoffman could be consistent. He's not
no great athlete, but you know what you're getting and
he he he solidified that offensive line as great as
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Zach is. Zach was hurt, and I went on every
show that I could go on saying, why are y'all
doing this?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
What do you mean? He's injured, he's beat up, he's hurt.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
So we delayed the process by two or three games,
you know, being you know, being lawyer to Zach, and
we should have I mean, but at some point a
coach had to stand up on the table saying, we're
hurting this kid.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We're not helping this kid. We're hurting this kid.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
And nobody stood up on the table until he couldn't
get up off the field. Now we see Hoffman or
was that a fluke? Then the next game, oh man,
he going against a kid from.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
New York, the big the big beach from New York.
He did Okay, he didn't do great, but he did.
Now I'm like, wow, it took all of this, It took.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Guide and being sick noid doga and we finally get
to see Austin Richards. That's where it's that's where everything
changed when he went in the game.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So the offensive line should be in decent shape.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
No, they're in decent shape. Yeah, they in decent shape,
all right, And.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
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Speaker 3 (40:37):
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Speaker 3 (40:53):
So one of the things we need to mention. It's become. Uh,
everybody's making a big deal out of it, but it's
probably the general wording in coaches contracts. They're making a
big deal that Mike McCarthy's contract will expire on January fourteenth.
(41:14):
Only the Cowboys, right, and nobody else is aspiring, right,
and also the assistant coaches. Well, the deal in the
contract language is you have nine days after your final
game of a freeze there and then the contracts are up,
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so you have nine days to negotiate with your expiring
contracts for coaches to re sign them. Otherwise you don't
have to give them permission to go interview with somebody else.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So which age is already doing but glehead right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Exactly, And so January fourteenth is the big date. Yes,
And I like the way Jerry answered this question. They
asked him if the last game, meaning Sunday against Washington,
will have any effect on decisions he makes about the
coaching staff, and he said, we all want to win.
(42:16):
We want to have the last game a win, so
that's important. But no, the hay is in the barn
really for as far as our staff is concerned. The
qualities of each coaches we know, so it's not like, oh,
you got beat, you're all gone, right, he said, And
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he said, and he went on to point out the
circumstances what we dealt with this year has to factor
into the decision, meaning all the injuries that they've dealt with.
The Other thing I thought was interesting, he said, he liked,
he liked the way the staff, including McCarthy, brought along
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young guy eyes. That will give them a better opportunity
next year to be better. Depth if you agree with
that depth, I mean you've always been a proponent of
playing the young guys, yes, sir, and by necessity, they
played the young guys and still are by the way.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Ever soon what's your take on that? Now, I never
heard you go in depth on that.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, then we're going young guys, you know. Well, yeah,
that's what I was talking about. The wide receivers. I
was expecting them to just step up a little better.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
You know, when you play wide receiver, man, if you
not built strong like like Cook, or if you're not
wiry like ceed Lambs with that kind of strength, man,
there's no way you can come out there and go
against these wide receivers or these DB's man or man.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And that's what we saw. Once they get up in
our faces.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
We had the open window closed and I saw no
one fighting for their quarterback to get open and create
that that that lane for them. And when you see
other teams do it, these are not great wide receivers
doing it on other teams. They're just guys who are
solid wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
But the thing that we are saying on this these
programs is.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh the coach schemed them. I'll be like, you know what, y'all,
y'all can tell them fans that foolishness.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Every receiver is not schemed open who gets a ball
round to them? You know, I do understand when a
guy is rubbed or do something, you go a little
different formation that they ain't seen.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You may catch them off guard, but that is over hyped.
Oh they threw it. Oh man, they threw them open. Well,
what happened when they lose? The coach can't throw them
open today.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
So the bottom line is you still need athletes like
you're talking about the job. Yes, I just I just remember,
and I know this has got to still be the case.
A dB and the wide receiver going at in one
on one. To me, that's that's as exciting to me
as as the Oklahoma drill, you know what I mean,
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where you got guys going up against each other one
on one, that shows what kind of heart you got,
what you.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Got I don't want to, uh now, we're not gonna
get too graphic about.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You gotta you gotta show you got something. You got
to show that you got some. You gotta show you
got something I didn't see fight in our wide receivers,
and I know what that looks like, because you know,
I've seen wide receivers get disappointed when they go up
against good DB's, and these were not good DB's that
they were going against. These guys need to play, They
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need to be more exciting. They need I mustn't say,
I must say I think our game plan as far
as passing is concerned, I think we need to go
downtown a whole lot more than we do because what
we do we handcuffed our quarterbacks. Okay, guys, let's start
off with a quick slant. Let's go with CD on
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the move. Okay, we're gonna make the move inside. We
get down in the red, We're gonna he's not going inside,
he's going outside. I mean, come on, I've seen all
of that myself, because it's been too consistent, meaning they
run the same, uh lackluster routes that I've seen for
a long time. And for Dak and those guys to
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be able to do what they've done based on that,
and I know how it goes. They want to start
off slow, you want to go short, route short. We're
gonna set them up, guys, because then when they jump it,
we're gonna go deep.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Well by that time you.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Might have thrown two interceptions because the linebackers are waiting
on that route running all the time.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
That was very prevalent when they double moved and got free.
They know what they're running.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Man. They I think they were so afraid of not
being able to protect against Philadelphia, but they wanted the
ball out quick.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
They did, and the defense plays on that. They know
that you want the ball out quick. So, of course,
which happened all the bad games that we play.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But if you listen to how he said he called
the game, and you can criticize him for it, it
was we got to control the ball time of possession
and get the ball out quick. We can't take sacks.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
But but you can't just get it out fight.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Timing has.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Miss They hit him twice on the double move. They
hit him twice. With Jonathan they hit it and he missed.
Then they hit it another time, Uh Cooks on the.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Other side, and he missed.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
You can't miss, Coach Lander, tell Danny or whoever, hey,
when we do this, you can't miss. You can't miss
because if you miss, now we got to.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Go back to what we was right. That was the surprise. Yeah,
that was the Yeah, you got to man. I just
think no matter who we play, the m O is
the same.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
If you see and of course I know all that
all offenses have their their their their pageant that they
get into and their tendencies. I understand that, but if
you're gonna have those tendencies, then y'all better be on
the same page. If we're doing this so much, we
better be on the same page.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Well, then I think that they should go five wide
on Sunday and spread it out and just fire away.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Though, guy against that you gotta get and got to
pick up his game. Jason Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, you know what, he wasn't the same after he
suffered that injury. Yeah, gotta get uh Micah his half,
a sack, Gotta get Aubrey his field goal. Be nice
if it's a sixty yarder.
Speaker 6 (48:54):
I don't how you do it, why you do it?
You need to play lights out. I don't care what
why doing. As a head coach and as a position
coaching coordinators and as players, every player showed me something.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, because you don't don't.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Just go out here and play like it's the last game,
man win in the playoffs, Well, you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Cut, though I think they understand that.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I think I want to I want to reenterate. You're
gonna get cut if coach.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
You don't quit, and they'll tell everyone else that wants
to sign he quit on us.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Instead of seeing cars after the game and family members.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
How that you see a bunch of U hauls lined up?
Come on man.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Or the or the movie Man.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
No way you say you want this, sir, So I'll
leave you with this.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Speaking of that, I remember Tony Sperano when he was
here and he had coached like twelve different places right
of John Fossil's deal, and he said he came home
one day and his wife was crying. It was here,
and he goes, what's wrong? And she goes, are we
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moving again? And he goes, what are you talking about?
She goes, there was a moving van in front of
the house. He goes, that was the neighbors.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
There, which was a player.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
She was so concerned that when the moving vans showed
up that that was it, that was the They were
out the door. Which no one really understands. These coaches
get fired or not rehired it's entire family that it effects.
So with that, I assume you guys are all going
to pick the Cowboys to win this.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Okay, Yeah, that's how I do.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Let's let's do it. Eight and nine sounds better.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Than I just love messing up. I love messing up
all you guys there, gals.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
I love to draft. They love to talk about the draft.
A we got you again, Yeah, we got you all right.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
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Are one more time. It's football Friday, and there are
as Bill would like to say, football players on the
football field. Cowboys going through their usual Friday sort of
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preparing for a Sunday's last game of the season against
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Speaker 2 (01:34):
For God.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I wish we win the playoffs, may wouldn't you? It
would be nice man. The weather is beautiful. It's like
you know, we're out there practicing, getting ready for the
first round of the playoffs, right no, no, no, note
not doing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
That, which leads us to having to play the final
game of the season Sunday noon at at and T
Stadium against the Washington Commanders and you know, when I
was doing my fan segment, they wanted to make a
game pick, and I said, seriously, who gets right? And
it's like, it's like, well, tell me what Washington wants
(02:10):
to do, because you know they're in Okay, so I'm
gonna ask you. For them to move from the seventh
seed to the sixth seed, they have to beat the Cowboys,
and then they have to have the Chicago Bears go
into green Bay and beat the passage that not.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Having now does green Bay.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
And then if if that happened, then green Bay would
be the seventh seed and Washington would be the sixth.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Seed, which makes the opponent.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
What So if you're the seventh seed, you're playing the
number two seed, which is Philadelphia. If you're the sixth seed,
you're playing the loser of Detroit and who's not in Minnesota?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
The wait? Wait, Detroit? So they play each.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Because they're playing each other? Okay, yes, yes, who would
you rather play in the first round? Philadelphia or that loser?
Speaker 4 (03:09):
I would rather play Philadelphia only because your quarterback is
your number one quarterback is is he's still in concussion protocol?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I haven't checked that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I believe he's still in a concussion polar.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Or if he's not, they might be resting him right,
and they're gonna rest probably because they they cannot improve
or diminish their scene though.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
To all the people are gonna call Mickey and put
them on the X. Right now, is Washington does have
the sixth seed currently?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Hm, they do?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Just letting you know, Okay, Okay has a seventh.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes, I thought it was the other way.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Now Washington has a sixth seed. They have a better
conference record at eight and three. Green Bays conference record
currently is at six and five. They do have the
same record though, so so winning and losing is.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Not going to matter.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well, they have to win because if they lose or
at eleven and six and and if green Bay wins,
they'd be at twelve and five, so they would jump them.
But they have to win the game to win the
game that they stay at six. They lose the game
and green Bay beats beats Chicago, they flip flop.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, let's assume I'm just saying Green Bay's beating Chicago, right.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right, That's what I'm Yes, so they have to win.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I'm just saying for the people are going to call
you and say, hey, you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Washington has the six seed currently.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
All right, Well, my little paper here with the had
it messed up. Yeah, absolutely, that's okay. All right, so
Washington does need to play. They can't rest, so they're
going to bring it to us. And Jerry said, it's
(05:02):
it's still the focus on the game. I want to
beat those guys this week. It's important. Let's go get
the Commanders.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay. So having said that, are we tanking?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Are we letting some guys rest and look forward to
next season?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Are we're playing.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Guys who are already injured and could possibly become even
more injured? All we risking all of that? Because if
we're not, then we're not really caring about it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I think the I think the injured guys are already out,
so uh oh, I printed out the injury report, left
it behind.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Of course, I just want to see the roster. I
want to see with you.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Got to play everybody, because they already got the injured
guys out. These guys are already playing. So the only
decision they have to.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is our This is our roster. If we were
it's going to.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Be the same. They're not going to change the only
thing that's going to change is it seems like it
would do Trey Lance as solid to let him start.
Jerry said, for competitive reasons this morning, he's not saying
Mike has said the same thing. Now he's got a
press con or conference call at twelve thirty. I don't
(06:18):
know if he'll change his tune during that or not.
Maybe producer Supreme can keep an.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Eye on what he has won about that Chris and
so peaking.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
That would be to me, the only significant change. You
might say, Okay, I'm going to take a better look
at Deuce Vaughan and Hunter Lipke as the running back.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
I hadn't seen much of Hunter lately.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Has he been Yeah, he's been in there, but he
hasn't got any carries. They always look at him as
you know, he could be a one back running.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Back for you, but he can also block and block.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
He can block and you know Rico. I mean, the
only goal he would have in this game is the
gain one yard, which would mean he would have more
yards rushing in a season since Zeke had thirteen hundred
and twenty nineteen. So there are things to accomplish in
this game. The other consideration, and I don't think it's
(07:22):
gonna be a consideration. Is so Cooper Rush had two
levels of playtime incentive percentage of snaps. The first one
was it was like forty four percent of the snaps
he would earn two hundred and fifty thousand extra bonus.
If he got fifty five percent of the snaps, he
(07:44):
would earn another two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. All right,
so right now he's at fifty two percent.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh, he didn't make He's not to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Use not to fifty five.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
He ain't gonna make it so.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Right, But what they can do is say, thanks a lot.
When we negotiate for next year, we'll throw that two
hundred and fifty thousand. Because the bonuses, since they were
unlikely to be earned in I think the previous contracts,
it doesn't count against the cap until next year. So
(08:18):
you could say, okay, here's five hundred thousand. We owed
you to fifty for being a good dude. We'll pay
you two fifty.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Since when do people get paid in the NFL for
being a good dude? They happen they he was a
good dude.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
What happened to the NFL? Well, you know what, I'm
happy for the players.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
You know me, I'm old school and we got treated
like old school, and I'm just so I don't know
if I'm I'm I'm happy for them, or if I'm like, hey,
where's my uh, where's my good.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Luck chong, where's my stuff?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
But if something was on the line, he would have
gotten right. So I would think the right thing to
do is to start Trey Lance, give him an opportunity.
But I think everybody needs to remember that he has
not started or played significant snaps in an NFL game
since the second week of twenty twenty two in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know, when you have significant you know, there are
times when you and I go back through through history
and talk about some of the things we experience.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
It is kind of cool to see that.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
The NFL is nothing like it used to be, right, man,
it's nothing like it. So do you remember if this
was if this was back in eighty eight or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
How about eighty nine? You remember the running back which
one Paul Palmer, right, yeah, chiefs right, and he had
I think play time incentives and he got benched for
the final game of this season. Jimmy said, you're not
going to be here next year. There's no sense wasting
(09:57):
bonus money on you.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, what does Jimmy care about bone money?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Because Jerry was hemorrhaging money back then.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
But Jimmy had nothing to do with that. But he did.
Let let Jerry handle that. And see, I think that's
the thing.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Well, he probably did. He told him, don't play this guy.
He probably did and something happened because I remember he
was in the training room and I don't know if
they said, oh, he's got some sort of injury or
something like that, and they didn't play them. So I
think the lead running backs that game were Darryl Johnston
and I can remember you had another running back sort
(10:32):
of a backup type of thing, and he ended up starting.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
You're not talking about Shaw, No, No, the running back
that got cut for Christmas?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Do you remember that man?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
He got cut Jimmy cut him for Christmas, cut for
because he fumbled the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
In a no meaningless in a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
So it was eighty nine.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Paul Palmer.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh, they don't have him on here. I'll find it. Oh,
I forgot his first name, Sergeant, that's his name. Sergeant
was his last name.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Oh, you're talking about the big full back. Yeah, yeah,
that's not Palmer.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, No, I'm saying he was the one started.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
I can't remember his name. He indeed, big big guy, yeah,
big full back.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
He and DJ ended up starting in place of Palmer
because they wanted to save salary.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Cap.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I can't remember his name. He's a good guy. We
had good times. We had good times with him. We
were losers, but we were having good times.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So it uh.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
His name was.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Roderick, Roderick sergeant.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So anyway, so I think I think they would take
care of I don't think that should matter if they
want to give Trey Lance a chance to go ahead
and start, and you know, from that standpoint, we can
have Will Greer be the backup quarterback.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And that's what I was wondering if Coop's not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Right, Yeah, maybe not, because Will Green is going to
be the backup, right.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
They could elevate him off the practice So they have
not yet. No, that wouldn't do that till Saturday. Okay, Yeah,
i'mould just say I don't know if they would or not.
I'm just saying why not, right, And it would give
him a little bump in salary from practice squad pay
to one game in the in the regular season, so
(12:30):
I could see them doing that after that, douce Vaughan,
maybe a couple series. I don't know how much they
want to put Rico out there. Hunter Lepke give him
some snaps, and I bet at some point they would. Awesome,
Richards is ready to get back and play, so he
(12:53):
was active this past week. Maybe they get him out there.
And then from a guard standpoint, you got Hoffmann and TJ.
Bass with Zach still out obviously, so you can get
them in there. And there's no sense extending Tyler Smith
if you don't want to, but you want to put
your best available, I think offensive line out there to
(13:15):
give Trey Lance a chance.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And that's the best.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Well that's what they got, right, Yeah, that's what they've
already been doing. So you might get those guys out
there at some point. So but other than that, you're
playing everybody on defense. You realize they've played seven different
cornerbacks this year.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yes, I started, and they still need I'm surprised they
hadn't signed someone off the practice field for this game.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well they can elevate pride again, Okay, Yeah, and I
think I haven't seen it officially, but I understand maybe
those fines that are getting thrown out, they might have
reduced those things for that little Someone said something about yeah,
but they haven't. I haven't seen it posting yet. I mean,
(14:07):
the poor guy would have paid the play, right, So,
but yeah, they can do that. They probably have to
bring up another linebacker. I would think maybe there's a
wide receiver that they want to look at, although they've
looked at all the wide receivers already.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So the one who's in the red right now, what's
his name in the red meaning he got fined?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh it was it was Jalen Brooks.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, I was books.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, okay, and then Troy Pride off the practice squad.
So I would imagine they've got to do that again.
You know, I guess they have to start Andrew Booth.
I don't know that there's any other options. Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
You act as if he's the worst cornerback in.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, I don't know that he's the worst. But he hasn't.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Been, isn't he.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
What do you always say there's a reason he's a back,
that he's a backup.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Or would spend the majority of the season on the
practice practice squad. Right, yeah, so but other than that,
on defense, you're you're playing the guys. Now, you know
Michael wants to play. He needs a half a sack, okay,
to get double digit sacks and be one of like
two or three guys, uh to have double digit sacks
(15:25):
in their first four seasons.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
You know, when you look at Micah's decision, well, I
don't know if the decision is made yet, but when
you start comparing that with Saquon Barkley, I would imagine
they decided to keep Barkley out, even though you're talking
about chasing history here.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I don't know if Barkley is if this is his
decision or not, but I have to think that if
they left it up to him that he would want
to play.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
He sounded like, well you got to say it. Yes,
of course he said he was good with it. Yeah,
that the team is more important than But again by asterisk, though,
what's that that if he if he broke it.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
It's in seventeen games. Well, well, Dickinson has no aspect
on his When he OJ bro We're talking about two
games difference between oj and Dickison.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Right, there's a bit there's something there.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Right, the other guy that's got something on the line,
Cavante Turpens averaging thirty three point six yards kickoff return
and the NFL record belonging to the very important Jim Duncan.
That's who owns nineteen seventy thirty five point four. So
(16:42):
he would need a big return to push his average
up two yards. And you know what, when I was
asking about it, he.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Knows about it. He does.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I said, just go over there and tell him
to kick it to you. Quit the touchback stuff.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Right now, they have to win the game, right, so
that's not to do that. Maybe if they didn't have
to win the game, they might do him a solid
and kick it to him, But now they have to
win the game. Talking about the commander, they may not
kick you. No, they may not. Well they won't. They
won't try to oblige him. I'll say that.
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Man, You know, I forgot to tell you the other
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Speaker 2 (21:01):
Record in the case.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, so we discussed the quarterback thing. Your thoughts on
giving Trey Lance to start? Uh, you know if they
do that.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
I saw him in preseason, and you know, you know,
I was all about the Trey Lance experience. I saw
him in the preseason game and I was still all
about the Trey Lance experience.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Season started. I was about the.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Cowboys, Dak winning if he get hurt, Cooper Rush winning,
and that's where that's where I'm at. Still, Cooper Rush,
you don't get to relax because you're not in the playoffs.
You get to continue to show people who you are.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Now.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
People say with nature you're speaking with a double tone.
Well why not play Trey Lance. Well, it's some wide
receivers out there want to know that this quarterback where
to throw the ball and how to place that ball.
So Cooper Rush gives you a better chance to evaluate
the rest of these wide receivers, ie Lie the kid
from from from uh the Panthers be a g o bingo?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, so yeah bingo, and so.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Was there about.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah, so we got to.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I want to see. I want to see because if
we if one of these receivers can show some spark
in this last game. Maybe I'll get off of my
first round pick being a wide received. Maybe I doubt it,
but you know, I want to see what these dudes
can do, and I don't believe Trey Lance gives me
(22:49):
that that chance to see that. I don't want to
see him run. I can go get a running a
running back. We got a bunch of them. I want
to see him throw.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
If you're gonna let him throw, repeat it from the
ten yard line down to the rison, I'm with that.
But if you're gonna be out there were running all
these options and all.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Want to do and I think I think that's what
they have in mind. If indeed they go that direction.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
I'm glad you brought the wide receivers because, uh, these backups, man,
I have to admit, they have been extremely inconsistent for
this team this year.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Uh ceedee Lamb started off uh really really uh disappointing,
but stepped up and showed just one of them. Man,
this guy he makes you forget all about that BS man.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
That's just how good he is.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
He's number eighty eight, but he.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
There's a reason for that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So, but when you're talking about these other guys, I
gotta get more. I was very disappointed, and except for
number three, I'm sorry. Except for Cooks, I'm so uh
disappointed in the other players. There were times when they
did step up and make plays, but I don't want
to see the amazing play. I want to see the
(24:08):
consistent play, and I didn't see consistent play out of them.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You know, there were times.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
When then I'm putting it right there where I need
you to have it where you want to have it,
and I need you to catch it. And there are
times when I didn't put it where I need to
put it, but I need you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
To come up with a.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
That was things on the scholarship sheet. Oh his catch radius, well,
I would like to see it.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
And you know, you know who taught me about catch,
radious Drew Pearson.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Drew Pearson talked about how wide receivers these days they
want everything to be here. Drew Pearson told Roger start
back anywhere here is a good pass. Yes, I don't
care if it's behind me. And that's the way they played.
So that thought process is that, Yes, that's not the
thought process of these younger receivers.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I don't know about younger receivers.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'm not gonna put a stamp on all of but
on these guys here.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That radius needs to be in in series if you're
gonna play Trey Lance.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
The first thing I'm telling my wide receivers as a
wide receiver, coach, son, I need for you to make
a play for this quarterback. He's young, he's in experience.
Make a play for him. What do you mean, coach,
that radius? Guess what they're talking about. When you're running
the route. There's no slipping, there's no falling, there's none
(25:27):
of that. You know that happens. I'm sure that happens
in all games.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
But you know, we have an usual amount of Oh
I slipped, you know, I remember they told us back
in that DB's hey, son, you can't slip.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
There's no slipping. You slipping of jobs.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Job, get go, get you some different claques.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, there's certain things that you just depend on.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
You want reliability from your wide receivers, and there was
no U except for CD. There was no reliability there.
To whet my quarterback and say, man, I feel real
comfortable trying to put this in that tight window because
he's gonna fight for it.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So to accentuate what you said. Cooks is unrestricted free
agent next year, so there's no guarantee he's back.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
And I do like cook put the Cooks in that category.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And they're looking at those young guys. Somebody's got to
step up now. Tolbert tied for the team lead with
six touchdown reception.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Let me give you an analogy right before we start.
I've seen guys in the NBA be twenty point scorers
on their team. Then they lead the team in on average,
but maybe fifteen ten points.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
He said, why is that? Well?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Over here when team won, that was the only thing
they had over here is better players and better situation.
So he's got to share. And plus he ain't as
good as he thought he was. Let me say you,
by Toba, we had no one that's to throw to
with the other Tobarts. When showing up, Brandon Cooks was heard,
(27:15):
I lie, he had to make he had to make
a playoff, right, So I want to see starting this game.
You know it should have started last game, but starting
this game, let's target tobat ten or fifteen times.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Let's talk.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Hey man, you know it's what you want, it's what
you We've been the target you, bro, So get going.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Off to see that. I would love to see him,
shut me up. I would love to targeting him.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Don't this is this is for next year. When you
say the only I tell people that's right here. I've
been on the one in fifteen, I've been on the
three and thirteen. I don't know how bad it was
for you ever, you know, because you you you are
truly a fetter guy.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But I was.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
I was still on that edge of they getting rid
of the fat guy and any time.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
So the last game of the season.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
The fact that, yeah, I was praying that I had
a dud in front of me so I could just
more him over right.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
So if I'm if I'm Tobert, I'm I'm like, coach,
throw me the ball, Throw me the ball.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You want to you want to leave this game.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Tobart targeted fifteen times, twelve, one hundred and twenty yards too.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
CDs man, he went off.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Now make them when they say, hey, what we need
in the first round and that receiver sitting there, now, No,
We're gonna go on and get this d lineman. We're
gonna get this corner back somebody. You know, we got
somebody that that Hey, he showed what he was worth.
Are they saying, like, man, do you really believe if you.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Can't check the box? I want to be able to
check the box on Tope.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
And I gotta go get that wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Bro, go get somebody be called ceedee Lamb needs some help.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, you know, absolutely, especially if Brandon cooks. And we
saw what happened when it wasn't.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
And Brandon should be your third receiver. He should be
that slot guy that's moving around. He's situation the situation.
He's not that guy no more that can really get
you that thousand yards that you can run him anywhere.
Back in the day, and it's something about being youthful,
you can you know them bombs we saw. The few
bombs we saw were like, why is he running a bomb?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You remember? Go look at some film. Yeah, he used
to get those things because he could stop and he
had enough power. He don't have that room. So he
should be your third receiver.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So what you're saying is you need T Higgins. Oh Jesus,
but that's the s see what you want?
Speaker 6 (29:48):
You You talk too much cap for me to go
out and talk about the T Higgins.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Don't even do that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But that's the quality of receiver. I didn't say how
much it was gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You need to do this right here, because you're talking
out the side of no, no, no, you understanding.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Okay, how about this. You need Elvin Harper, Yeah, yeah
you do. So T Higgins is Elvin Harper.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
T I love you, baby.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
But Kim, when he didn't have Michael, that's when he
went to Tampa.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yes, sir, yes, it's like, oh, we thought you were
a number one receiver. No, you were a number two receive.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You got Tampa.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, so that's what I meant. Yes, you know, receiver,
you're gonna go in free agency and spend another thirty
million dollars the man, goodness gracious. So yeah, you're you're
(30:53):
right about that. And then from a defensive standpoint, they're
already playing everybody.
Speaker 6 (30:59):
Yes, right now, you got to decide who you're gonna
and I'm going at this kid tober. But you know what,
I don't want to be the average guy.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I know he's got a where.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
He's playing with the two fingers.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I know he's got a
bad situation. So I don't want to just but man,
we left training camp knowing that this kid was gonna
take that next step, and.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
He had a really good draining camp.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
We left training camp knowing he's gonna take the next step,
and boy, he just like he slipped on something.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
He didn't he The physicality isn't there. Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I don't see the confidence in his routes. I don't
see the confidence in him being that targeted wide receiver.
And I was just so disappointed in it because I've
been hearing from Spags, I've been hearing from Bill about
how you know this.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Is the dude be that guy? Yea, man, he did it. Man,
he even looked smaller out there I was.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
I was looking for a guy who's bigger, a guy
who could take on a little bit more. I did
not see that from them. Now, having said that, I'm
just like nay Man, I'm me and me and you.
I'm drafted free agentsy man, I'm gonna give you a
shot because somebody gave us a shot. I'm gonna give
you a shot, but you gotta show me. You gotta
come out there, you gotta show me that you're gonna
be having some walls.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man like you show you're gonna be.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Larry Brown the last preseason game. Hey boy, you you're
gonna make the team to day.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You ain't gonna today. I'm watching you closer to that field.
That's why Larry went out there and showed out and
there you go, and then it started and there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I would like to see more of Mingo then, yeah tober.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Mingo Fornoing. I don't care.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You don't care how now pronounce you.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Know, I don't care. If I see him, I want
to see. We gave him fourth. I want to see him.
This other kid Tobert, I want to see man. I mean,
you can't see with everybody. So it's two guys that
I've chosen that I want to see. Like, I think
our offensive line is set.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
We got uh Cooper.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, okay, So if Zach's not here next year.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Zach Zach exact, ain't here, I ain't playing that game.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
Right guard is is whoever you wanted to be hot
from the bass, and then your left guard is the
all pro we got. He's stable, he's hard nosed. The
only thing we have to work on, the only thing
we have to work on is how you're gonna play guy,
because I think the money keeps still where he's at,
(33:51):
but we have some type of running abilities, so still
takes upper level where he still is a C player.
Now if you run the ball enough, he becomes a
C plus or B player because he's a he's the
only he's a play action past time.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
If you ask him to block about forty five times
past and.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
It ain't happened, but you mix enough run in there,
he keeps his confidence.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So where would you like to fit Awsome richardson?
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Austin Richards He's not gonna take the left type of
job because that as long as a doga and guiding
over there, they're gonna they're gonna split that into guyde
and grow up.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
So he he.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Agent, he's a he's a swing guy. I would like
to see him if he could play. It is at
the right tackle, but still is in trench right there right.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Can Can he play guard?
Speaker 6 (34:42):
Yeah, Richard, he can play guard. He can play he
can play left guard. Nice, he will be a nice
left guard.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right guard. It's an opportunity to compete there.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
He he competed last year and they ignored him. He
was in training camp, him and TJ. Bass and Hoffmann
were the only three that played in every preseason game,
started every preseason game, played almost every position in preseason game.
They have proven they competed and they got in the
game and showed you. So now it's if you want
(35:16):
to as a coach, is if you know when the
scouts sitting up saying, hey, we drafted these guys, you
got to play these guys. The guys that need to
be gone, it's the guys that's been here, it's you know,
they need you know, I don't want to call kids
out because people said I needed to be gone.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So you know, conceivably could serve as your backup swing
tackle and guard.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Richard Richards played left guard in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
You remember when he before he got hurt, he was
getting a rotation left tackle, Yes, right.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
And so he started two pres the games at left
tackle and then moved into the guard. So the kid,
the kid can play. Now can he play consistent? Like
we didn't know Bro Hoffman could be consistent. He's not
no great athlete, but you know what you're getting and
he he he solidified that offensive line as great as
(36:22):
Zach is. Zach was hurt, and I went on every
show that I could go on saying, why are y'all
doing this?
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
What do you mean? He's injured, he's beat up, he's hurt.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
So we delayed the process by two or three games,
you know, being you know, being lawyer to Zach, and
we should have I mean, but at some point a
coach had to stand up on the table saying, we're
hurting this kid.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
We're not helping this kid. We're hurting this kid.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
And nobody stood up on the table until he couldn't
get up off the field. Now we see Hoffman or
was that a fluke? Then the next game, oh man,
he going against a kid from.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
New York, the big the big beach from New York.
He did Okay, he didn't do great, but he did.
Now I'm like, wow, it took all of this, It took.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Guide and being sick noid doga and we finally get
to see Austin Richards. That's where it's that's where everything
changed when he went in the game.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
So the offensive line should be in decent shape.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
No, they're in decent shape. Yeah, they in decent shape,
all right, And.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
We're in really good shape with U Nate, third Guy,
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Speaker 3 (40:53):
So one of the things we need to mention. It's become. Uh,
everybody's making a big deal out of it, but it's
probably the general wording in coaches contracts. They're making a
big deal that Mike McCarthy's contract will expire on January fourteenth.
(41:14):
Only the Cowboys, right, and nobody else is aspiring, right,
and also the assistant coaches. Well, the deal in the
contract language is you have nine days after your final
game of a freeze there and then the contracts are up,
(41:36):
so you have nine days to negotiate with your expiring
contracts for coaches to re sign them. Otherwise you don't
have to give them permission to go interview with somebody else.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
So which age is already doing but glehead right, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Exactly, And so January fourteenth is the big date. Yes,
And I like the way Jerry answered this question. They
asked him if the last game, meaning Sunday against Washington,
will have any effect on decisions he makes about the
coaching staff, and he said, we all want to win.
(42:16):
We want to have the last game a win, so
that's important. But no, the hay is in the barn
really for as far as our staff is concerned. The
qualities of each coaches we know, so it's not like, oh,
you got beat, you're all gone, right, he said, And
(42:38):
he said, and he went on to point out the
circumstances what we dealt with this year has to factor
into the decision, meaning all the injuries that they've dealt with.
The Other thing I thought was interesting, he said, he liked,
he liked the way the staff, including McCarthy, brought along
(42:59):
young guy eyes. That will give them a better opportunity
next year to be better. Depth if you agree with
that depth, I mean you've always been a proponent of
playing the young guys, yes, sir, and by necessity, they
played the young guys and still are by the way.
Speaker 6 (43:15):
Ever soon what's your take on that? Now, I never
heard you go in depth on that.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Well, then we're going young guys, you know. Well, yeah,
that's what I was talking about. The wide receivers. I
was expecting them to just step up a little better.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
You know, when you play wide receiver, man, if you
not built strong like like Cook, or if you're not
wiry like ceed Lambs with that kind of strength, man,
there's no way you can come out there and go
against these wide receivers or these DB's man or man.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
And that's what we saw. Once they get up in
our faces.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
We had the open window closed and I saw no
one fighting for their quarterback to get open and create
that that that lane for them. And when you see
other teams do it, these are not great wide receivers
doing it on other teams. They're just guys who are
solid wide receivers.
Speaker 6 (44:06):
But the thing that we are saying on this these
programs is.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Oh the coach schemed them. I'll be like, you know what, y'all,
y'all can tell them fans that foolishness.
Speaker 6 (44:20):
Every receiver is not schemed open who gets a ball
round to them? You know, I do understand when a
guy is rubbed or do something, you go a little
different formation that they ain't seen.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
You may catch them off guard, but that is over hyped.
Oh they threw it. Oh man, they threw them open. Well,
what happened when they lose? The coach can't throw them
open today.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
So the bottom line is you still need athletes like
you're talking about the job. Yes, I just I just remember,
and I know this has got to still be the case.
A dB and the wide receiver going at in one
on one. To me, that's that's as exciting to me
as as the Oklahoma drill, you know what I mean,
(45:03):
where you got guys going up against each other one
on one, that shows what kind of heart you got,
what you.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Got I don't want to, uh now, we're not gonna
get too graphic about.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
You gotta you gotta show you got something. You got
to show that you got some. You gotta show you
got something I didn't see fight in our wide receivers,
and I know what that looks like, because you know,
I've seen wide receivers get disappointed when they go up
against good DB's, and these were not good DB's that
they were going against. These guys need to play, They
(45:34):
need to be more exciting. They need I mustn't say,
I must say I think our game plan as far
as passing is concerned, I think we need to go
downtown a whole lot more than we do because what
we do we handcuffed our quarterbacks. Okay, guys, let's start
off with a quick slant. Let's go with CD on
(45:56):
the move. Okay, we're gonna make the move inside. We
get down in the red, We're gonna he's not going inside,
he's going outside. I mean, come on, I've seen all
of that myself, because it's been too consistent, meaning they
run the same, uh lackluster routes that I've seen for
a long time. And for Dak and those guys to
(46:18):
be able to do what they've done based on that,
and I know how it goes. They want to start
off slow, you want to go short, route short. We're
gonna set them up, guys, because then when they jump it,
we're gonna go deep.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Well by that time you.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
Might have thrown two interceptions because the linebackers are waiting
on that route running all the time.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
That was very prevalent when they double moved and got free.
They know what they're running.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Man. They I think they were so afraid of not
being able to protect against Philadelphia, but they wanted the
ball out quick.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
They did, and the defense plays on that. They know
that you want the ball out quick. So, of course,
which happened all the bad games that we play.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
But if you listen to how he said he called
the game, and you can criticize him for it, it
was we got to control the ball time of possession
and get the ball out quick. We can't take sacks.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
But but you can't just get it out fight.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Timing has.
Speaker 6 (47:24):
Miss They hit him twice on the double move. They
hit him twice. With Jonathan they hit it and he missed.
Then they hit it another time, Uh Cooks on the.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Other side, and he missed.
Speaker 6 (47:36):
You can't miss, Coach Lander, tell Danny or whoever, hey,
when we do this, you can't miss. You can't miss
because if you miss, now we got to.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Go back to what we was right. That was the surprise. Yeah,
that was the Yeah, you got to man. I just
think no matter who we play, the m O is
the same.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
If you see and of course I know all that
all offenses have their their their their pageant that they
get into and their tendencies. I understand that, but if
you're gonna have those tendencies, then y'all better be on
the same page. If we're doing this so much, we
better be on the same page.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Well, then I think that they should go five wide
on Sunday and spread it out and just fire away.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
Though, guy against that you gotta get and got to
pick up his game. Jason Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, you know what, he wasn't the same after he
suffered that injury. Yeah, gotta get uh Micah his half,
a sack, Gotta get Aubrey his field goal. Be nice
if it's a sixty yarder.
Speaker 6 (48:54):
I don't how you do it, why you do it?
You need to play lights out. I don't care what
why doing. As a head coach and as a position
coaching coordinators and as players, every player showed me something.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, because you don't don't.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Just go out here and play like it's the last game,
man win in the playoffs, Well, you're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Cut, though I think they understand that.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I think I want to I want to reenterate. You're
gonna get cut if coach.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
You don't quit, and they'll tell everyone else that wants
to sign he quit on us.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Instead of seeing cars after the game and family members.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
How that you see a bunch of U hauls lined up?
Come on man.
Speaker 3 (49:41):
Or the or the movie Man.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
No way you say you want this, sir, So I'll
leave you with this.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Speaking of that, I remember Tony Sperano when he was
here and he had coached like twelve different places right
of John Fossil's deal, and he said he came home
one day and his wife was crying. It was here,
and he goes, what's wrong? And she goes, are we
(50:13):
moving again? And he goes, what are you talking about?
She goes, there was a moving van in front of
the house. He goes, that was the neighbors.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
There, which was a player.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
She was so concerned that when the moving vans showed
up that that was it, that was the They were
out the door. Which no one really understands. These coaches
get fired or not rehired it's entire family that it effects.
So with that, I assume you guys are all going
to pick the Cowboys to win this.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Okay, Yeah, that's how I do.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Let's let's do it. Eight and nine sounds better.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Than I just love messing up. I love messing up
all you guys there, gals.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
I love to draft. They love to talk about the draft.
A we got you again, Yeah, we got you all right.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
And with that, that's it for on this football Friday.
We will be back at eleven o'clock on Monday in
the off season schedules. Thank you, guys. Ye shots on
Dallas Cowboys dot com, Go Cowboys.
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