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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Alright, hello everyone, and welcome to the first edition of
NFL Draft Trip will Take First edition twenty twenty four.
We are, as always sponsored by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuita,
joined as always by Dale Lawley and Matt Williamson. We've
been doing this for a while now, discussing an upcoming
(00:27):
draft and how we think the pieces may fall into place.
But we're doing things a little bit different this year.
And one of the differences the opinions we are about
to express, the wrong opinions that Matt and Dale are
going to provide and the insight that will be forthcoming
from me. It's all our own opinions. We are not
trumpeting with the Steelers may or may not do. We
(00:48):
are not, for these purposes, affiliated with the Steelers. This
is three guys sitting around talking NFL Draft, so fellas,
welcome back, ready to get at it. Let's just shout
that they had us back our upsets in every draft.
We're gonna start today with our mock first round, and Dale,
(01:08):
you're on the screen first, so let's take a look
at your picks one through ten. Anything on here that
you had to wrestle with or that you think is
I don't know, especially enlightening.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, I think the first five guys are pretty chalky
when you start looking at mock drafts. Whatever order those
guys go in. To me, I think one of the
real wild cards in this draft goes at six tight
end Brock Bowers, because typically you don't see tight ends
go that high. But you can't just look at him
as a tight end. You have to look at him
as a pass catcher. And so to me, you know,
(01:42):
I know the Giants that may not be a screaming
need for the Giants another tight end, but you have
to look at him like he's just a big wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
One of the caveats that we decided on before doing
this was we weren't including potential trades. So that being
the case, I think the Bears are, you know, for
our purposes, not trading their quarterback and not trading the pick.
So if they end up with Justin Fields throwing, who
better to be on the receiving end than Marvin Harrison
junior guys, he is my head and shoulders best receiver available.
(02:14):
And that's just the old eye test. Just watch some
college football on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What conference did he play?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He played the Big Ten Conference. Yeah, just checking Drake
May is my second quarterback to the Commanders, and I
like him better than the other two. I might be
a little bit on an island regarding that, but based
on our no trade scenario and Harrison going one, I
think the Atlanta Falcons would love this because Jade Daniels
of LSU would fall down to the Falcons at number
(02:41):
eight and the rest of it. As you said, Dale Chalking, Matt,
let's take a look at what you've got cooked up
for picks one through ten.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, you mentioned the Falcons at eight, and this might
be a little controversial as we sit here in the
middle of February, but I think JJ McCarthy stock could
really be on the rise in the media circles when
he goes to the Combine. Really really good athlete, phenomenal
in terms of you know, interviews, leadership, all that type
of thing. But I do think the Falcons are going
(03:09):
to be aggressive with the quarterback spot. So I didn't
know exactly what to do with them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, Well I have. I mean, I think Terry
and Arnold is the best cornerback in this draft. I
think he's really good at twelve. Then you know, I
got bow Nicks going to the Denver Broncos, and I
think the reason I went with that, I think he
kind of fits into what Sean Payton does offensively, getting
the ball out quick, a lot of the shorter stuff.
You know, It's what he ran with Drew Brees to
(03:34):
a certain degree. So I just I don't know if
he's the next best quarterback, but I think that's where
a good landing spot for him. And then you know
you're looking on down there love Jackson Powers Johnson the
center out of Oregon, but he goes at seventeen, and
then that means the Steelers get Cooper dejen do everything, cornerback,
safety return guy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And you said do everything. You are not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What conference did he play?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The Big Ten Conference?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I saw too much of that guy in Iowa City.
Mike pursuits picks eleven through twenty out jump right down
to the bottom. I have Jackson Powers Johnson coming to
Pittsburgh with the twentieth overall pick, and Dale, I'm with
you on bow Nicks. I got him going to the
Raiders at thirteen. You had him to Denver at twelve.
But I think he's gonna go higher than people think.
(04:25):
I think they're gonna love what they see of them
in the workout stage of this. And he's got some
ridiculous statistics and I think he has the size and
the experience. Quinnon Mitchell really interesting player to me. I
got him going to Denver at number twelve, one of,
if not the best cornerback available. Matt, what do you
have in this particular third of the first round.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I have Geiton, who you had gon fourteen going
to the Steelers. He looks like a left tackle, he
moves like a left tackle. He actually looks like a
power forward. He was really impressed with the Senior Bowl.
He's really only played on the right side. Steers will
figure that out. Powers Johnson's a guy we've brought up
a couple times. I think he'd really stabilize that Jacksonville line.
And then Byron Murphy I wanted to mention too. He's
(05:09):
an extreme athlete. And you got to realize Seattle just
you know signed or hired, you know, Baltimore's defensive coordinator.
They won versatile, explosive defensive front guys. So I think
that would be a good fit with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Still one more third to get to as we continue,
taking a projection at the first round at Dale, your
picks twenty one through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean you start looking here and you're gonna
get to Obviously, Cleveland does not have a first round
draft pick because they traded that away. But then you
look at the Baltimore Ravens and they take Graham Barton
here at the thirtieth pick, and they get some offensive
line issues there. Some of their guys are getting a
little bit old Zeitler, They're one of their guards is
(05:51):
a free agent upcoming. So I think it makes a
lot of sense for them to take a guy in
Barton who could play all over that line for them
and just give them a little more versatility there. And
you know some of these other picks you mentioned geton.
I have him going to Dallas. We know Jerry Jones
loves those Oklahoma guys. That would make some sense there.
And then one of the other guys, Lad McConkie, going
(06:14):
to Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That's a little at tension getting.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I think he's going to maybe go a little
bit higher than some of the draftnicks have him going round.
They have him going early second round. I think he
can sneak into that first round. He's really good and
just he just does everything well and I like to
like why to solve him at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Dale, you and I both have the same pick at
thirty second overall, Keon Coleman going to the Chiefs. Really
good athlete, played basketball as well as football at Michigan
State before he went to Florida State.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And he came to his census and transferred right there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Is I think if he'd had gotten to play in
the college playoff, there'd be a whole lot more buzz
about him than there is right now. But he's a
big receiver who's incredibly athlete. Nothing really surprising in my
twenty one through thirty one. I have a degene going
a little bit lower than you guys at twenty five,
(07:11):
but for the most part, and Matt He's will probably
confirm the same. We've basically got the same names here,
just in different order.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, and actually with mine, I want to have the
same spot with Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
D got a twenty eighth.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I mean I want to mention that one too.
Diggs's production really fell in the second half of the season,
gave Davis is a free agent to be, so that
makes a lot of sense to me. Well, you and
I both had Darius Robinson going to the Ravens. They
won versatility in that front. They want explosiveness, and he
plays all up and down the line.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's the first guy to me. It will get to
a number of these guys. But you look at him
and you say, that guy's a blank a raven, and
that guy's a raving that particular guy. But there will
be some other players where we think, oh, so and
so he should be a packer or whatever. Yeah, that
guy's a Raven.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think, and then position, you know, positionally, at twenty nine,
I feel really confident that that's going to be a cornerback.
And there's a lot of them in this class that
fit the mold. I'm not sure which one will end
up at twenty nine, but they need a corner to
put in extacidon.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's gonna do it for us. For this first edition
of the NFL Draft Triple take Matt Williamson, Dale Lawley,
and me, Mike Pursuda. We're gonna be cranking this stuff
out between now and the actual NFL Draft, which is
scheduled for the end of April. In Detroit, So you're
gonna want to keep it here for well, just too
(08:27):
many updates and insightful pieces of content to mention, But
just keep checking back with Steelers dot com and all
of your Steelers social media platforms and you'll find out
what we think as the twenty twenty four NFL Draft
approaches for Matt and Dale Mike. This has been the
NFL Draft Triple Take, sponsored by UPMC
Alright, hello everyone, and welcome to the first edition of
NFL Draft Trip will Take First edition twenty twenty four.
We are, as always sponsored by UPMC. I'm Mike Pursuita,
joined as always by Dale Lawley and Matt Williamson. We've
been doing this for a while now, discussing an upcoming
(00:27):
draft and how we think the pieces may fall into place.
But we're doing things a little bit different this year.
And one of the differences the opinions we are about
to express, the wrong opinions that Matt and Dale are
going to provide and the insight that will be forthcoming
from me. It's all our own opinions. We are not
trumpeting with the Steelers may or may not do. We
(00:48):
are not, for these purposes, affiliated with the Steelers. This
is three guys sitting around talking NFL Draft, so fellas,
welcome back, ready to get at it. Let's just shout
that they had us back our upsets in every draft.
We're gonna start today with our mock first round, and Dale,
(01:08):
you're on the screen first, so let's take a look
at your picks one through ten. Anything on here that
you had to wrestle with or that you think is
I don't know, especially enlightening.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, I think the first five guys are pretty chalky
when you start looking at mock drafts. Whatever order those
guys go in. To me, I think one of the
real wild cards in this draft goes at six tight
end Brock Bowers, because typically you don't see tight ends
go that high. But you can't just look at him
as a tight end. You have to look at him
as a pass catcher. And so to me, you know,
(01:42):
I know the Giants that may not be a screaming
need for the Giants another tight end, but you have
to look at him like he's just a big wide receiver.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
One of the caveats that we decided on before doing
this was we weren't including potential trades. So that being
the case, I think the Bears are, you know, for
our purposes, not trading their quarterback and not trading the pick.
So if they end up with Justin Fields throwing, who
better to be on the receiving end than Marvin Harrison
junior guys, he is my head and shoulders best receiver available.
(02:14):
And that's just the old eye test. Just watch some
college football on Saturdays.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What conference did he play?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
He played the Big Ten Conference. Yeah, just checking Drake
May is my second quarterback to the Commanders, and I
like him better than the other two. I might be
a little bit on an island regarding that, but based
on our no trade scenario and Harrison going one, I
think the Atlanta Falcons would love this because Jade Daniels
of LSU would fall down to the Falcons at number
(02:41):
eight and the rest of it. As you said, Dale Chalking, Matt,
let's take a look at what you've got cooked up
for picks one through ten.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, you mentioned the Falcons at eight, and this might
be a little controversial as we sit here in the
middle of February, but I think JJ McCarthy stock could
really be on the rise in the media circles when
he goes to the Combine. Really really good athlete, phenomenal
in terms of you know, interviews, leadership, all that type
of thing. But I do think the Falcons are going
(03:09):
to be aggressive with the quarterback spot. So I didn't
know exactly what to do with them.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
All right, Well I have. I mean, I think Terry
and Arnold is the best cornerback in this draft. I
think he's really good at twelve. Then you know, I
got bow Nicks going to the Denver Broncos, and I
think the reason I went with that, I think he
kind of fits into what Sean Payton does offensively, getting
the ball out quick, a lot of the shorter stuff.
You know, It's what he ran with Drew Brees to
(03:34):
a certain degree. So I just I don't know if
he's the next best quarterback, but I think that's where
a good landing spot for him. And then you know
you're looking on down there love Jackson Powers Johnson the
center out of Oregon, but he goes at seventeen, and
then that means the Steelers get Cooper dejen do everything, cornerback,
safety return guy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And you said do everything. You are not exaggerating.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What conference did he play?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
The Big Ten Conference?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I saw too much of that guy in Iowa City.
Mike pursuits picks eleven through twenty out jump right down
to the bottom. I have Jackson Powers Johnson coming to
Pittsburgh with the twentieth overall pick, and Dale, I'm with
you on bow Nicks. I got him going to the
Raiders at thirteen. You had him to Denver at twelve.
But I think he's gonna go higher than people think.
(04:25):
I think they're gonna love what they see of them
in the workout stage of this. And he's got some
ridiculous statistics and I think he has the size and
the experience. Quinnon Mitchell really interesting player to me. I
got him going to Denver at number twelve, one of,
if not the best cornerback available. Matt, what do you
have in this particular third of the first round.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, I have Geiton, who you had gon fourteen going
to the Steelers. He looks like a left tackle, he
moves like a left tackle. He actually looks like a
power forward. He was really impressed with the Senior Bowl.
He's really only played on the right side. Steers will
figure that out. Powers Johnson's a guy we've brought up
a couple times. I think he'd really stabilize that Jacksonville line.
And then Byron Murphy I wanted to mention too. He's
(05:09):
an extreme athlete. And you got to realize Seattle just
you know signed or hired, you know, Baltimore's defensive coordinator.
They won versatile, explosive defensive front guys. So I think
that would be a good fit with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Still one more third to get to as we continue,
taking a projection at the first round at Dale, your
picks twenty one through thirty two.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I mean you start looking here and you're gonna
get to Obviously, Cleveland does not have a first round
draft pick because they traded that away. But then you
look at the Baltimore Ravens and they take Graham Barton
here at the thirtieth pick, and they get some offensive
line issues there. Some of their guys are getting a
little bit old Zeitler, They're one of their guards is
(05:51):
a free agent upcoming. So I think it makes a
lot of sense for them to take a guy in
Barton who could play all over that line for them
and just give them a little more versatility there. And
you know some of these other picks you mentioned geton.
I have him going to Dallas. We know Jerry Jones
loves those Oklahoma guys. That would make some sense there.
And then one of the other guys, Lad McConkie, going
(06:14):
to Buffalo.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
That's a little at tension getting.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, I think he's going to maybe go a little
bit higher than some of the draftnicks have him going round.
They have him going early second round. I think he
can sneak into that first round. He's really good and
just he just does everything well and I like to
like why to solve him at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Dale, you and I both have the same pick at
thirty second overall, Keon Coleman going to the Chiefs. Really
good athlete, played basketball as well as football at Michigan
State before he went to Florida State.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And he came to his census and transferred right there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Is I think if he'd had gotten to play in
the college playoff, there'd be a whole lot more buzz
about him than there is right now. But he's a
big receiver who's incredibly athlete. Nothing really surprising in my
twenty one through thirty one. I have a degene going
a little bit lower than you guys at twenty five,
(07:11):
but for the most part, and Matt He's will probably
confirm the same. We've basically got the same names here,
just in different order.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, and actually with mine, I want to have the
same spot with Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
D got a twenty eighth.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I mean I want to mention that one too.
Diggs's production really fell in the second half of the season,
gave Davis is a free agent to be, so that
makes a lot of sense to me. Well, you and
I both had Darius Robinson going to the Ravens. They
won versatility in that front. They want explosiveness, and he
plays all up and down the line.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
He's the first guy to me. It will get to
a number of these guys. But you look at him
and you say, that guy's a blank a raven, and
that guy's a raving that particular guy. But there will
be some other players where we think, oh, so and
so he should be a packer or whatever. Yeah, that
guy's a Raven.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think, and then position, you know, positionally, at twenty nine,
I feel really confident that that's going to be a cornerback.
And there's a lot of them in this class that
fit the mold. I'm not sure which one will end
up at twenty nine, but they need a corner to
put in extacidon.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
That's gonna do it for us. For this first edition
of the NFL Draft Triple take Matt Williamson, Dale Lawley,
and me, Mike Pursuda. We're gonna be cranking this stuff
out between now and the actual NFL Draft, which is
scheduled for the end of April. In Detroit, So you're
gonna want to keep it here for well, just too
(08:27):
many updates and insightful pieces of content to mention, But
just keep checking back with Steelers dot com and all
of your Steelers social media platforms and you'll find out
what we think as the twenty twenty four NFL Draft
approaches for Matt and Dale Mike. This has been the
NFL Draft Triple Take, sponsored by UPMC
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