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Hello everyone, and welcome to another edition of the NFL
Draft Triple Take, presented by u p MC. Mike pursued
it from the d V Morning Show and Steelers dot Com,
joined by Dal Ally of s n R and Matt
Williamson of s n R. Dale and Matt are s
and our the Drive tag team. We've been teaming up
for a couple of years now on the draft profiles
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position by position. Will throw a mock at you every
now and then just to make sure you're paying attention
and keeping up at home, but none of that Today.
Today is uh safety day as we work our way
through the positions for the first time. And Dale's safety, Um,
maybe not as uh eye catching as cornerback in this
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particular draft, but some good players available and maybe the
best player in the whole thing at the safety position. Yeah,
it's an interesting group. I mean, it depends on what
you're looking for, uh, you know, from the position. And
I think a lot of the college programs have taken
some of those big enforcer type safeties and moved him
to linebacker, uh you know, and so you're seeing some
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of those guys get bulked up here and then you're
taking some guys who would have been maybe a free
safety type and you're telling him to put on ten
pounds and making them a strong and things of that nature.
So the whole game is kind of shifting and morphing
itself a little bit at the college level, and the
safety position is is no different. And to expand on that,
I think it's really interesting. It used to be when
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I was growing up. Is he a free or is
he a strong? Okay? I mean those things still exist,
but the Dale's point, the strongs are now on the
second level playing linebacker, and the freeze are harder to find.
You don't see the ed read earl Thomas Mica Fitzpatricks
as often as you used to. That just used to
handle the deep middle as by themselves. But now there's
also like a third category. Is the honey badger, slot
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slash you know, do it all safety type? You know? Yeah? Yeah, right, shorter,
So there's all shapes and sizes. Yeah, Matt, you and
I went with one of those guys at our number
five prospect at the safety position, Jalen Petrie of Bailor,
and he checked a lot of the boxes you just referenced.
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I had a pretty simple evaluation on this guy. I
loved watching Baylor play this year, particularly watching Baylor played defense. Uh,
that program has really made some strides. And those guys
just get after it. Man, give me, give me some Baylor.
They just go get athletes, they get track guys and
tournament to football players, and they're well coached. And I
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think from what I gathered, Petrie was really the leader
of that group. Again, a ton of great athletes around him.
And I right up about him, I said something along
the lines of, you know, Petrie's more of a quote
defensive back rather than just a safety. I mean, he
does everything. He's near the line of scrimmage a lot,
makes a ton of plays. I mean, but to your
point a minute ago, that's kind of where the position
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is going. Oh yeah, right right now, plots him off
the slot, you know what kinds of stuff. Yeah yeah.
I almost looked at him more as a corner act
and I did a safety when I when I looked
at this whole picture, and I couldn't put him in
my top five corners. I could and he just missed
being in my top five safeties. But I could see
him being again a honey Badger type player, a guy
who plays the slot and and then also plays some safety. Well,
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the guy you did go with the number five deal
Brian Cook from Cincinnati, another school that showed up on
the field last season and in the playoff and uh,
certainly at the combine. Yeah, Cook's a bigger type guy
six one two oh six. Uh, you know, just makes
all the plays you know in the box. Um, but
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he's still pretty good in coverage as well, So he's
got the size and in the athleticism the matchup against
tight ends. Uh, he's also very good and run support.
So there's a lot there to like. But you know,
it just depends on what you're looking for at that
safety position. If you're if you're judging him against Jalen Petre,
while we're apparently looking for the same thing at number four.
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Because we all came up with Lewis scene from Georgia
mett one, it tell us why we all love this
guy so much. Yeah, I mean, Georgie is pretty good
on defense, and he was. They've had some guys crop
up the last few triple takes ridiculous, you know. Quick story.
I went to the UH the the opening game down
in Charlotte. It was George against Clemson, and I walked
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out of that game thinking, boy, both of those teams
plays a pretty good defense. I had no idea that
I at the time that I saw about twelve NFL
just for Georgia. Yeah, I mean it's just ridicted played
defense at a ridiculously high level. Uh. Can you go
wrong with a Georgia Bulldog mat I don't think so.
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I mean, this guy six to I would classify him
as a strong if you have to put him in
one of those three categories we talked about. He can
really run, he lays the wood. I mean, he has
all that attitude that all those Bulldogs do. But this
is something I brought up with their linebackers a little bit.
Is if you're gonna play on the set can level
and you're as protected as well as these Georgia guys are,
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your job was a little easier in college and it
will be the next level, no question, you know. Uh.
Daniel Jeremiah talked about seen having just one interception this
year during the combine and he said, well, the other
team would have had any time to throw right they
were because getting sacked right. No, not only that they
never had the ball because they kept going three and
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out other than that, Uh, Dale, you're four on seen
and your third number three guy to Kwan Brisker from
Penn State. Yeah, and he's a Gateway high school guy
out in Monroeville, so you know he's a a Pittsburgh guy.
Went to Lackawanna College before transferring to Penn State. But
three seasons there he had five interceptions. Um, you know,
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I think he's good and run support. Uh. He had
some shoulder issues, so you know that don't have to
be checked out. But he checks off a lot of
the boxes show you see his name sneaking into the
end of that first round, you know, on a lot
of the mock drafts that you see out there, I
can see why, you know, against six one pounds, good
size safety with ball skills. Yeah, I just have him
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at number two. I went with Daxton Hill from Michigan
at number three. But I like the chess peace aspect
of Brisker's game, and you know how physical he is. Matt,
why don't you finish up on Brisker and then tell
us about Hill. Yeah, Hill's my two. I'm glad they'll
mention Brisker's shoulder injury because from what I understand he
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really could have sat time out, and it was a
pretty significant injury and he missed some tackles while his
shoulder didn't work, you know. I mean, it just shows
how tough he is. He's more strong than free a
Pittsburgh kid. I mean to guy, you know, so he's
a downhill dude, Das Hill is a lot different. I mean,
both these guys have good size and length, and all
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these dudes are six you know, six ft plus. Hill,
it's just an athlete. I mean, he ran a four
three eight. I mean, he really has a first round
corner profile. I was gonna say, I was. I was
wondering about him at corner when we were playing this
list together. Yeah, I've heard some people saying maybe that's
you know, his future. So and he's not just the
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uh A Tyron Matthew type corner. That's a tough, little
slot honey Badger type. If he's a corner, he might
be lining up outside the numbers and press coverage, you know.
I mean, he's there's a lot to work with with
Hill and are unanimous number one, And I'm I'm gonna
go out on a limit and say everybody's unanimous number one.
It's safety. Kyle Hamilton's from Notre Dame. I guess what,
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six four to twenty um and then God created football player.
I mean, right, right, right guy. The guy just looks
amazing just running and being an athlete. He looks amazing.
And then you watch him not only out there dominating
on defense but covering Puntsdale. Yeah, I mean it gets
after it. What's not to like about this guy? You know,
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eight career interceptions, so he's got ball skills. Uh. You know,
his dad was a professional basketball player in Greece, which
is where he was born. Is actually born in Crete,
on the Isle of Crete. So I've i said maybe
he should have the nickname the Minotaur because he's kind
of that big, scary guy on the backside of your
defense there, you know, throw your eyes. It's just I'm
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spitballing here, milling. But the guys that the guy is
a good football player. We've seen a lot of these
guys come into the league in recent years that you
know that that are six four two twenty just athletic
freaks that you can put You can play him at strong,
you can play him at free, can put him at linebacker.
I mean you talk about a chess piece. That's this
guys Kelsey comes to town. You're like, hey, Kyle, you
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gotlt so your best player in the drafts. I don't
think he's gonna go number one, but you're supposed to
draft the player, not the position, right right. I mean
he would have my highest grade if I've actually put
raids on players. That doesn't mean I take him first. Overall,
I think the best. He's the best at what he
does in a Sean Taylor like manner, that's just flat
out rare. Some people might look at his forty and
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be like, it wasn't great. Okay, it wasn't great, but
go watch the tape. He's anything but slow. Yeah, it's uh,
it's really something to see. And uh, NFL is gonna
see a lot of Kyle Hamilton's starting on the day
one in the NFL draft. That's gonna do it for
our look at safeties. But just be advised, we have
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a lot more ground to cover between now and the
time when the Jacksonville Jaguars are officially on the clock,
So keep checking in, keep finding us. However, and wherever
you did, thanks for doing that this time. Until next time.
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