Panthers Post Game | October 6, 2024

This week on the Panthers Post Game show, Jim, Mike and Jonathan Stewart recap the Panther's loss to the Bears, hear from Coach Canales, and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Now to Chim Zok with the Panthers postgame show preseming
by Southern Star unofficial bourbon of the Carolina Panthers celebrate
the spirit of the Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Panthers at Chicago lose to the Bears by a score
of thirty six to ten. The game that was lopsided
there's a score indicates, but also a game that's had
a lot of injuries involved in it for the Panthers
as well, moving forward up to see how those pan
out for the next game coming up against Atlanta. Along
with Mike Pachico, Jim Zoki with you, and we're happy
to have Jon Van Stewart, Panthers all time leading rushier

(00:39):
joining us. First, this is your debut on this show.
You do the podcast, You've been on ball games with us,
but first time doing the postgame, right.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, this is the first time postgame, So thanks for
having me.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Sorry to have to have the particular.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I was, I was hoping I was going to
have some you know, good luck charm of you know,
showing up you know on the post game.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's like a bookie initiates well the game he did
color on the Panthers were playing the Lions on Christmas Eve,
but you're a half ago or whatever, and it had
the highest rushing total we've ever had. It blew out
the Lions and ruined the Lions playoff chances. I turned
up that year too, so we were hoping for some
of that magic. But we needed Jonathan end game, not
after the game, right, That's the difference with that one.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Now we've learned.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, exactly, so, Stu. Obviously this was tough all the
way around, and the Bears are a team that we're
not overwhelming coming into and too. But we knew their
defense was going to be good first of all, and
they certainly made life tough on Andy Dalton today in
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, too many pressures. Two sacks, but many many pressures
up the front. You know, when you have a guy
that likes to stand in the pocket and make quick decisions,
quick throws, get the ball out and be efficient, it
rattles all that. So Chicago Bears game plan was clearly
make it hard on Andy Dalton.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
One hundred and thirty six yards Mike eighteen out of
twenty eight, really nothing down the field to be had.
They had the one ball to Cocher late in the
first half and it was good. By the way, receiver
Jalen Coker, undrafted rookie four catches sixty eight yards in
this game, Chubba Hubbard. Another bright spot though, is if
they gave him one more carry, would have had one
hundred yards ninety seven yards on thirteen carries, seven and

(02:10):
a half yards per carry today for Cuba.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Yeah, Coker, the Pride of Holy Cross. I don't know
if you've heard that one, but.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You've said it like twenty times today.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
But yeah, no, Tuba.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
You know, you know, we talked about this with Johnathan
a couple of minutes ago. I mean it was almost
like when it went down fourteen to seven, they started
to kind of go away from the run a little
bit because he was getting you know, three four, you know,
you know, he was getting least four five six yards
of carry, and then it felt like they maybe the
field of the game, they felt like they had to
keep pace with the Bears and kind of went away
maybe a little bit earlier from the running game than

(02:41):
they could have.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Absolutely, I think when you had going when you're going
on an away game, running the ball is part of
the game plan because you're in an environment that you're
not used to, and when things get a little bit shaky,
you gotta lean on the run game. When you get
in the pressures, you got to you got to make
sure you're keeping the defense honest, and I feel like

(03:04):
we were doing it. I mean, Trouba Hubbard first play,
takes it to the house his first carry and so
and then after that six yards of pop. Those are
that's an ingredient to slow down any any defense. And
when it comes to pressure, and especially you know when
you're just getting pressure by having four guys rushing the quarterback,

(03:24):
I mean, you're making it too easy on the defense.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
And I think they were only three sacks Gym, but
it seemed like Andy ultimate a lot of pressures quite
a bit, and a lot of that I think just
was a good coverage downfield and so he kind of
had to wait a little bit for things to develop.
And then a couple of times they were a little
late developing plays and then throws were maybe a little
bit behind the receiver, so saw some drops. I think
that we, you know, that's kind of become a recurring
problem over the last you know, last two games. It's,
you know, something we need to keep it eye on

(03:49):
I think as.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, when you lose the turnover battle three nothing. Yeah,
so the two fumbles, lost interception in this game. So
you look at time of possession, you look at you
didn't possess the ball with the takeaways, and third down
was three for third down three out of twelve. Yardage
was for twenty four to two ninety two. So they
had like one hundred and thirty yards more overall in
this game. So just all the way across the board.

(04:10):
What did you think of Caleb Williams yea, the rookie
quarterback for Chicago.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
This was a coming up party for him. Hate it
had to be us, but it was gonna happen eventually. Uh,
you know today, you know, having the help of an
offensive line that was giving him so much time in
the pocket. There's many times where you just saw him
just bouncing and in one place, in one place, uh,
basically waiting you know, for his receivers to get open

(04:35):
or waiting for you know, the brigade the clear its
way for him to take off running for a first down.
So you know, when you have you know, that type
of protect protection, any quarterbacks going to find ways to
pick you apart. Uh, Caleb Williams. We saw him in
college and saw what he was able to do and
what he and what he did today, he put it
all on display, Mike.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It wasn't a blood and guts all over the field.
But Dj Moore agains five catches, one hundred and five yards,
two touchdowns that his first game against the Panthers, either
because we had the game out there last year, of course,
but he dropped one two could have added that total too,
But he was the biggest part of their receiving game.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
And what a great safety blanket for Caleb Williams there,
just to have the you know, and I know that
maybe they hadn't connected as well as they had before
coming into the game, but I think to Stew's point,
I mean, I think he didn't look like a rookie today.
I mean, he clearly looked like he was comfortable. The
game was you know, it wasn't too fast for him,
and you know, maybe some of that was, you know,
we have a lot of injuries on the defensive, you know,

(05:32):
front seven, so it's maybe not the prototypical Carolina Panthers
defense that we were hoping to see this year. So
I think having that comfortability and then having a guy
like DJ Moore and even though you know, you know,
you know, it wasn't his decision to get traded, but
there's still that kind of element of like, hey, they
kind of gave up on me. So there's a little
bit of that chip on the shoulder when you play
a former team.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh yeah, you're not forgetting the fact that you got
traded by the team that drafted you and for no
reason in his mind, you know.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
So it was like a whold out situation.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That, yeah, he made his case last year that he
is a top receiver, and today he displayed that. He
put it on Caleb Williams. You know that connection. We're
going to see a lot of that, you know, for
the near future.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I mean they have really a household name, a bunch
of household names. You have the rookie of doones, you
have who's my man from a Keenan Allen. He was
out there today and so that he's he's got a
whole system right there in front of him for him
to succeed. Excel Cole Comet another you know option he

(06:45):
bawled out today. So it was just one of those
one of those games where you know, the Carolina Panthers
going in and you have all these injuries that are
already against you, and you just have to make sure
that everything was the right way for you to have
a chance.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
And when it just when to stop. Built to be
in a track meet, right, I mean, if you can
keep the game close and shorten the game, which is
why I think maybe running you know, you could have
run the ball a little bit earlier in the first half,
but you know, this is a situation where you fall
behind early, it's gonna be harder and harder. And it's
just something we've seen over the last couple of years
for the Panthers, A nothing new.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I mean, you look back at the you know, the
games that we have want in the past. It's been
you know, I look at when we played whoever we played,
when Christian was still here. We ran the ball like
the whole entire game forty times I think maybe fifty,
I don't know, but it was nothing but running the

(07:40):
ball because that's exactly what we had to do to
be competitive in that game. And sometimes you have to realize,
you know, what you want to do, and what you
intend to do and who you intend to be might
not happen right now, So you have to just you know,
cling to what works, and we're gonna say it more
time throughout the show. Running the ball was the answer

(08:03):
in my opinion, to make it close.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
We'll talk about the injuries and more detail later, but
you lose two of your offensive linemen during the game.
You lose a receiver in this game, you lose a
tight end during this game, and a edge rusher off
of a long list that was heading into the game
to begin with. We'll cover that a little bit later
on in the Atrium health report coming up here on
the Southern Starbourbon postgame show, though a lot more to cover,
Mike will we come back. We'll update us on the

(08:26):
NFL scores look like the Bengals and Ravens in a
high scoring overtime game. Among the things to talk about there,
we'll listen back to some of the highlights of this game.
We'll hear from coach Dave Canalis. We'll hear from Luke
and Jake and Aniche up in the booth as well,
and talk about more as we get underway here with
the Panthers coming up short in Chicago today thirty six
to ten. More coming up next on the Carolina Panthers

(08:48):
Radio network. I'm gonna bring us back. I'm looking at
Mike like he's gonna do it. You go, now, you go.
We already do the scores here in just a minute.
Panthers postgame Show presented by Southern Star Official bourbon of

(09:09):
the Carolina Panthers, celebrate the spirit of the Carolinas. Jim
Zoki along with Mike Pachico and the great Jonathan Stewart
with us here as we are coming in the aftermath
of a Bears win over the Panthers thirty six to
ten Carolina at home versus Atlanta coming up next morning,
that game in just a little bit. But Mike does
have the score updates here and we're also keeping an
eye on the TV here, Mike with a bear that

(09:32):
the Bears are the Bengals and the Ravens in overtime.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Yeah, fifty three yard field goal attempt here for Evan McPherson.
We were kind of vamping a little bit hoping he
was going to kick it. Now finally they're about getting
ready to snap here. Games all even at thirty eight
in overtime there comes to snap.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Oh balls listed, Wow, pulled it wide.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
Left pulled it.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
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Speaker 2 (10:04):
Trying to see if that ball was tipped all oh,
I thought something was off about that. The holder dropped
the ball. Dropped the ball, So don't blame it on
the kicker that was the holder just dropped the ball.
You got probably a punter, probably the.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Now we got the isolation shot that.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Looked like the snap was good. The ball just dropped
up all times, just dropped the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Got one job.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's too how many yeah, how many times do they
practice that during the course of even a week. I
mean it's just like he does there, one job, You.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Got one job. I don't know how many times they
practice it. But if you're getting paid just to do that,
you're doing it enough.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Out dropped it. I'm surprised he was able to get
his foot out of to even kick it as close
as ye.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Well, he failed on the money shot there for the
game winning field goals. So they continue on there earlier today.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now there's a touchdown by Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yeah, but they about got this wrapped up. Now they're
down to the six yard line. Is that Henry.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Derick Henry had a big run back.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Took a toss.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Good job Titans getting rid of him, like he's no good.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Fifty one yards to the Cincinnati six yard line. Man,
all right, we'll keep an eye on that game as
we move along here. Minnesota now five and oh twenty
three seventeen as they beat the Jets at tottener Hotspur
Stadium in London twenty three seventeen in the final. There also,
East Houston gets a Emy Fairbairn fifty nine yard field

(11:24):
goal at the end of regulation to beat Buffalo twenty
three to twenty. Jacksonville thirty seven to thirty four over Indianapolis.
Trevor Lawrence was twenty eight of thirty four three hundred
and seventy one yards in the airs.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
They win.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Joe Flacco had a pretty big game too, three hundred
and fifty nine yards in the air.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Magine if he was a starting quarterback in this league, Well, who.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Has better than him? You're now on the couch, like, oh,
you who could play football?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
A game Swait every year. He just lights it up.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
I'll do it.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
Miami beats New England fifteen to ten, and Washington behind
Jayan Daniels fourteen of twenty five two and thirty eight
yards beat Cleveland thirty four to thirteen. And another tough
one there for Sean Watson.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Seana Watson's just awful.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
YEA.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Las Vegas right now is seven nothing lead. This is
late in the first quarter. Seven nothing over Denver Arizona
seven three at San Francisco nine thirty seven to go.
First quarter there and no score. Green Bay and uh,
Los Angeles the LA Rams and then the other game
going on right now is the New York Giants and
the Seattle Seahawks. That game just underwag twelve twelve, fifteen

(12:29):
to go. And now we have Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
We have another field goal attack.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Baltimore is looking like this.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Uh, they're just like a four yard twenty four yard
field goal is good for Tucker. Tucker, He's never gonna miss.
If it was fifty four, he would have made that
one right fifty four he makes it. So Ravens win
it forty one to thirty eight. The late game tonight
is going to be Dallas two and two at Pittsburgh
three and one, one of the surprise teams I think
maybe in the NFL the Pittsburgh Steelers, and then the

(12:56):
Monday night game at Arrowhood it'll be the New Orleans
Saints and the Kansas City Chiefs by week this week
for Detroit their three and one, Philadelphia two and two,
the Chargers two and two, and Tennessee at one and three.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Bengals are snake bit because they also lost to the
Chiefs on that Harrison Butker field goal a couple of
weeks ago, so a chance to win it with their
own field goal got botched and they lose on a
field goal, so their little snake bit. They're playing good
ball on the offensive side, but their defense ain't holding
up the other end.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
I mean, and Joe Burrow through for three hundred and
ninety two yards, five touchdowns and an interception.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
So, STU, if you're not working on a Sunday with
the family, just time permitted? Are you? Are you able
to sit in front of the TV and watch games?
Or you all pretty busy most weekends?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, it depends if my daughter has cheer or soccer. Uh,
you know, today she had cheer this morning around twelve,
so they gotten close to game time.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So there goes one minute of your day exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I learned. I learned that cheer you know, is there's
a lot of work that goes into it.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Now do they follow a timeline so you know when
you can show up and not like sit.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
In six hours?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well we showed up at eleven thirty, okay, So that
way they can prepare and warm up and all those
good things. And then they went out there and gave
it there off or you know right there at a minute.
Nice And you know she's seven years old, right right.
It's awesome that they get an opportunity to figure out
how to work together as a unit of the kids.
But ye, man, I was I was expecting, you know,

(14:19):
maybe a couple more minutes.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
But this was good.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
It was a sprint.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
It's good for her. It's good for me too.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Not a marathon as a sprint. Yeah, Mike, Mike's got
a son playing high school football. We had we had
four kids play high school football. And I always give
the same advice to all parents, if you can, in
any way, try to steer your kids clear of track
and field. And the reason I say that as a
typical track and field event is okay, it's the invitationals
where there's four schools, there's no clock, there's no ending.

(14:45):
Your kid does two events, it's about four hours, and
then you have to help clean up all the stuff
afterwards from the track and field event. It's like literally
like you have to stop.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Life and just devote your day, do it and dinner.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, it is like, so if you could get them
into cheer or football, things that are more structurally that
have sports with a clock, things like that, a track
invitational with four schools and you have to put all
the mats and the bars away and stuff like that.
It's mind numbing. You never know when it's going to end. Well.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
In baseball, you have to sit through the ninth or
eight through like twelve in the early years when the
kiss are starting to pitch and it's like ten walks
wins the game.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Because it's like no hits.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Oh yeah, ten walks and like it's seventeen to two.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's why they created cell phone.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
That's where it began. All right, we'll take a time
out here. We got lots to get to. In the
next couple of segments, we'll hear for Trevin Wallace, Panthers
rookie linebacker on his day. We'll stend back to some
of the highlights from the game and we'll hear from
coach Dave Canals and Jake Luke and Deniche All coming up.
Panthers fall at Chicago thirty six to ten and you're
listening to the Panthers Post Game Show and Football presented
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Speaker 1 (15:48):
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Speaker 6 (16:00):
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Speaker 6 (16:17):
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Speaker 4 (16:17):
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Speaker 1 (16:18):
To jinz Oki with the Panthers postgame Show, exclusively on
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
Not a good day for the Panthers. They lose in
Chicago thirty six to ten to one and four on
the season. Got a list of injuries will cover in
just a little while there, but one of the guys
helping out because of the injury situation was rookie linebacker
Trevin Wallace moving into a starting role and joins the
guys up in the booth. Now to get his thoughts
after the game.

Speaker 6 (16:43):
We're joined by Panthers linebacker Trevin Wallace. Travel a lot
on your plate today. Describe how the afternoon, How the
afternoon unfolded from your eyes.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
I could say an afternoon photo. You know, start off well,
you know, going on the first half of doom, I
could say it just started started off slow, so we
just had to get back rank, just amped up a
little bit. Then we came in the second happened, then
you know, amped up a little bit more.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
What is a young player like you learn from a
game like today going forward?

Speaker 9 (17:13):
You know, learn a lot.

Speaker 8 (17:14):
You know, obviously this is the NFL, so you're going
to get great players. So know how to maneuver, know
how to get your eyes right, know how to shed blocks,
and then also know how to communicate with your teammates.

Speaker 10 (17:25):
Trevn this is Jake delom here. How was the communication piece?
I know you're calling the defense for the first time.
There was a lot of no huddle thrown at you
guys today that Chicago did. How was that piece coming
in from the coach to quarterback communication system relaying it
to the rest of the defense.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
You know, I could say I did good with that,
the communication part, you know, because after we got done,
I asked them, boy was and how I'm doing?

Speaker 9 (17:47):
Like give me info? That's like, are you doing good?
Just keep doing what you're doing? So I flight, you
know I was doing.

Speaker 11 (17:51):
Good treving Luke here, Hey, just congrats on your first
games fifteen tackles. That's awesome. Can you talk a little
bit about how hell is to have a guy like
Josie on the sideline. That's just another set of eyes for.

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh my goodness, like that is wonderful, I could say.
The beginning of the week, I asked, I said, if
Josie come with us, because I knew like he would
be helpful.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
That's a veteran that you do not want home. You
want him to be with you. So I asked him, Hey,
Jo's like you you come with us? He was like yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:16):
And then every time I went to the sideline, like hey,
what you've seen what I need to do better? Like
give me tips or like reminders of what I need
to do, And he just kept helping me out more
and more so it made a game more fluid for me.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
What was there one thing that he told you continuously
during the day or just numerous things throughout the course
of the day. Hey, keep your eyes on this was
Was there one coaching point that you picked up from
him today?

Speaker 9 (18:35):
Oh yeah, he told me like just my eyes, my apex.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
That's what he told me, Like, just keep your eyes alive,
apex because they doing a lot of eye candy. So
that's what that's what he kept telling me.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Trevin, appreciate it. U fifteen tackles today and I know
for you this is just the beginning.

Speaker 9 (18:50):
Thank you, Yeah you will.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Panthers Locker Room Show brought to you by Southern Star
official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers celebrate the spirit of
the Carolinas. And you look at the draft class, Jay
stew and there's your third round pick there. We saw
Jatavian Sanders out there at tight end do some good
things and some bad things today as far as some
drops and jumped off side's early false star I should say,

(19:12):
and also but also had a nice catch in the
game too. We will see about Jonathan Brooks once he
gets the opportunity to be healthy to play with this team.
But you know, Jalen Cocher, I knows another guy you
like out of this not rookie draft class, but a rookie,
undrafted free agent wide receiver who's the leading receiver today
for Carolina.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, everything that he did today, he took advantage of
his opportunity. And you can tell he's a guy that is,
you know, playing like he has a chip on his shoulder.
Not being drafted. You always see, you know, guys that
just you know, basically bloom all of a sudden, and
so hopefully you know there is a flower that gets

(19:49):
to bloom through all you know, the the learning curve
that the Carolina Panthers are experiencing with all the injuries
and just you know the struggles right now. He was
bright spot today. I loved his yards after catch. You know,
it was basically and catching the ball across the middle
of the field and getting hit unexpectedly and in not

(20:10):
fazing him. You know, his body control. He's a very strong,
strong runner. So when you have a guy like that,
you know on your roster, you have to figure out
ways to give him the ball.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Yeah, and a guy that came out of you know,
the FCS and a lot of those guys. Yes he
did indeed Ptred League. He but he is a guy
that's taking advantage of that opportunity and a lot of
those guys, I mean, if you ask anybody on any
of those even go down to Division two, maybe in
Division three, some of those guys you ask him as
sophomores and juniors, they said they think they can play
in the NFL. Like everyone has that dream. Everyone thinks
they can do it. So for him to be able

(20:42):
to put it together, and you know, there are a
lot of guys that have come through the FCS level
that have been able to make it in the NFL,
so it's good for him to have a pretty good day.
And you're right, I mean, all four of his targets
he caught. He he looked confident, strong, makes some good moves.
So it's good to see him.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, Steve Smith during the combine, during the draft and
all that, he was very high on Jalen Coker. So
shout out to Steve for Uhi throwing him a bone.
I'm not sure if that was of any you know,
value as why we drafted him, but you know, having
good people like Steve give him some notice is great

(21:15):
and six.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Three, I mean that you know, you can't teach that.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You can't. I mean, you just have it and to
be able to you know, sometimes you have to go
to that FCF level to kind of fill out your
body a little bit, you know, because sometimes you might
be six three, but it might be too thin to play,
might need to just.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Part of what Smithy said that stew was referring to
was he thought he was the best route runner in
this draft class and he wasn't even a drafted player.
So you talk about things that that can be taught,
no doubt can't be learned. But to come into the
game with that at this pro level, with that ability,
he says a lot in addition to his physical gifts
of his Oh.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, I mean just running the route running ability, meaning
that you're going to be able to get open and
then everything else we can figure out. We can add weight,
we can get you stronger. But I even think you
know his there's a difference between guys that have to
put on weight and a guy that has a familiarity
with his body and an awareness of what his ability,

(22:09):
what his abilities are on the field. It seems like
he's very much so intact with what he knows he
can do him too.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
All right. So that's a couple of the other rookies
and how they performed and what we could expect down
the road from some of them. We'll get to more,
including the coach, Dave Canals, will hear from him in
just a bit. We'll liste Maxim These highlights coming up
as well. Panthers lose in Chicago, final score thirty six
to ten. As we continue on the Southern Star Bourbon
postgame show you listening to it on the Carolina Panthers
Radio Network, thirty six to ten Panthers fall at Chicago,

(22:44):
one and four on the season. Now, along with Jonathan Stewart,
Mike Pachico, Jimzoki with you, listen just a couple of
the calls from the game. There will be three touchdown calls,
one by a Panther and two other to a former Panther.
But we'll begin with the positive one Chuba Hubbard thirty
eight yard touchdown run here and this gave the Panthers
the seven to nothing lead in the first quarter.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
The daults of this time in a pistol sit Cotavion Sanders,
the rookie fourth round up from Texas. Attaches to the
right side of the line. There's the snap and off
to the Hubbard straight up the middle of big hole.
He's got the twenty fifteen ten fine goodbye touchdown to Hbbard.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Short lived though, as the Bears would come roaring back.
DJ Moore thirty four yard touchdown score here from the
rookie Caleb Williams.

Speaker 6 (23:35):
Williams the snap past time, throws down the right side.
DJ Moore wide open. He's got the ten tight ropes
the sideline and cuts it back inside for a touchdown.
Caleb Williams to the former Panther DJ Moore thirty four
yards to the score.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I would make it seven to seven first quarter. Then
the Bears would light it up with three more touchdowns
in the second quarter, and the second one to DJ Moore.
A thirty yard score from Caleb Williams.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Second down and eight from the thirty yard line. Williams,
who's in the shotgun chest high snap. Williams launches deep
down field. DJ Moore reaches up makes the catch for
a touchdown against Mike Jackson. Second touchdown catch of the
game for DJ Moore. It's a twenty nine yard connection
from Caleb Williams and it's twenty seven to seven Chicago, but.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
They would miss the extra point, bringing us back into
the game. All right, not really, but anyway, twenty seven
to seven was a score at the half, and then
they would roll on from there to a thirty six
to ten win over Carolina. DJ Moore five catches, one
hundred and five yards, two touchdowns, stew and for him
just doing what he was doing last year, and now
we're seeing's getting a chemistry with their rookie quarterback Caleb
Williams after having big numbers last year in Chicago.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Yeah, I mean, DJ Moore is a player in this
league that you know, definitely deserves all the hype he's getting.
And Caleb Williams realized really quick what weapons he has
around him, and you know the comfort level I mean
that he has right now. I mean, he has to
feel like he's on cloud nine. All I gotta do

(25:12):
is just have protection and throw it to any one
of my three amazing receivers and a safety blanket in
a good tight end, big target. I mean, just everything
about their offense is really set up nicely for him
to succeed. But DJ Moore incredible game. You know, obviously
this is a game that I can imagine him circling

(25:35):
on the schedule knowing that whatever happens, I'm gonna bring
my a game this game. He did that, and then
they ran away with the victory really fast with his help.
But yeah, that that touchdown, you know where he beat
Michael Jackson there really showcased his ability, you know, as

(25:55):
a deep threat and just being able to create separation
when it matters one on one and he just beat
him like a drum Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Unfortunately, So do you have more playing like we knew
him in Carolina was a great player, and even that
you were with the Robbie Anderson they were both over
a thousand yards receiving and had Joe Brady offense.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, and you know, and when the Panthers have been successful,
like you know in Ste's era and with Cam, you
know a lot of those chunk plays and today the
Bears had ten plays of sixteen or more yards and
the big one was the forty two yard or to
uh for to swift down to the two yard line.
Panthers I think had like five plays or six plays
sixteen or more. So when you can stretch the field

(26:34):
like that and because when you look at some of
the numbers, uh, you know, Panthers run the ball over
one hundred yards, so you know that was good. But
the yards per pass play for the Bears was almost
ten yards of pass. So they were just constantly, you know,
getting down the field and getting stretching, stretching the field
a little bit amazing.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
All right, let's get into the injuries a little bit.
Injury updates brought to you by a trim Healthy Deserve
to live your best life. Atrium Health is here to help.
And this is not the entire list, but these are
some of the more prominent players too. On the offensive line,
Austin Corbett and Taylor Molten. I know Molten was an
elbow injury, Tremble left with the concussion exablarly Get with
a shoulder and Jadavian Clowney with a shoulder injury, leaving

(27:13):
the game early on. And Stui came into this game
beat up and battered. And it's not an excuse, but
at some point it's a reality. There's only so many
next man up because there is a talent drop that
happens when you lose that many players heading into this game.
Over the past couple of weeks like Adam Thielen and
so many other players, but then of course Derek Brown
for the season, and you had a list like this
to what you already had. It becomes really a difficult

(27:36):
thing for a team that is not the deepest roster
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, it makes it hard for the coaching staff, right,
because at the end of the day, you know, as
a coach, you want the best players on the field,
and when your best players are on the sideline because
they're hurt, it's hard to evaluate, it's hard to game plan,
it's hard to do all the things necessary to win games.
And so all this does it just makes their job
really really hard. And you know, coming up next, we

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got the Falcons division opponent, and you want to win
those games no matter what, and it's just going to
be really difficult. They have a tough task ahead of them.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
And if they make anything happen and we end up
winning some games, this is this is an incredible job
by the coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, and nobody wants to hear the injury excuse. But
you know, in a salary cap situation like this, you
know you can't stash players. I mean, you know, you
have a certain amount of money you can spend on players,
and so eventually, you know, the next guy up is
it's an opportunity and you hope that that guy's ready
and being developed. But sometimes it works, and the deeper
your goal, it's just so hard, Like it becomes a
numbers game.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, definitely becomes a numbers game. And as you're as
a player, you are definitely you know, walking into that
locker room, as with the mindset that I am a starter, right,
your preparation, everything that you do week in and week
out is I am going to be called up next week.
My number is going to be called even if it's

(29:00):
not going to be called. Your preparation, the mindset, the
expectations from the coaching staff and how they coach you.
You have to go out there and deliver. And you know,
we've seen stranger things happen. Right, some guys, you know,
just flip on a switch and it just starts making sense.
And we can hope for that, and especially with the

(29:21):
amount of the injuries we do have. Uh, with a
with a span of a football game, all it takes
is you know, those handful of plays that can change
the whole dynamic of of an outing, so.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
And it's playing well when your number is called. You know,
you hear this a lot in baseball, where a lot
of guys will be excellent and then they get to
the big leagues and they don't. They don't last. They
come back to Triple A and they're awesome, and it's
like they weren't. They weren't able to step up their
game when they needed to. Cause it's the hard part
is getting there, but it's harder to stay there. Yeah,
So for those younger guys, it's it's you know, they

(29:55):
spend all that effort to get here, and now you
have to make that extra leap to continue to stay.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Yeah, you may only get that one shot, and you
may get more than one shot, but you may only
get one shot. And if you don't show what you
can do, or if it just doesn't go well at all,
that's it. And you said little league all the way,
pop on it all the way through high school, college
and all that. That's how tough it is. And you
see how many great players played in college too, and
you know they don't make it as pro players. Everybody
that gets cut by an NFL team was a star

(30:22):
in high school and in college for the most parts.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, you got to be cut from a different closet.
And when you talk about guys that stack games, right,
you know, oh he had a great Oh this rookie
had two games that were really good. You got to
stack them. It just you can't just show up whenever
you want to. And you see it in players, I
mean Trevan Wallace Jalen Kocher today, these two guys rookies,

(30:47):
you can tell that it matters to them. You know,
they have something deeper rooted in them for the reasons
why they play this game. And you know, earlier this
week I talked to John Beeson. You know, the way
that John b went about his craft, about his work,
it was so intentional. Every single day he was winning something.

(31:07):
It's got to be a mindset. Can't just be just
on game day. It just can't be in the game
of football. It has to be a life thing. And
I think that's what Dan Morgan's really trying to create
here for the culture of Carolina Panthers is getting guys
in here that love football, love coming to work. Whatever
they're doing, they're doing it because they love it. And
so the way Trevin Wallace played today. That fourth down

(31:30):
stop was unbelievable. You know, the effort that I saw there.
If we can get that out of you know, a
handful of guys every play on both sides, on both
sides of the ball, well we'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, fifteen tackles, ten of those solo tackles, by the
way by Trevin Wallace, by far and away, he had
twice as many as the next player, Xavier Woods out there.
So yes, the defense was out there for a long time,
but also he really executed it well. Lots to get
to as we continue on the Southern Star Bourbon postgame show,
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All right, we are going to hear from the head
coach now, Dave Canalis with the guys Jake and Luke
and Anish back in Chicago. Yeah, coach, tough one.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Today.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
We had a ton of injuries on the defensive side
of the ball and the offensive side of the ball.
Can you just talk a little bit about how the
team tried to respond with all the injuries that we
had to deal with.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
Yeah, Jake, I just first of all, like these guys
are playing the game right. We're running hard, we're hitting.
It's a physical style of football that we want and
ask we're asking our guys to and they really have
stepped up to the challenge and done that. For The
injuries are unfortunate, and there's guys that we have that
we just are counting on to step up. And as
we continue to just go back to work and figure

(33:08):
out what we're doing, of course we have to just
you know, evaluate all the guys and see, you know,
what we're looking at from an injury standpoint. But I
just love the guys just continuing to play. Coach, can
you talk a little bit about Jalen Kocher.

Speaker 10 (33:20):
He kind of flashed today not only with his receiving,
but even just some little things as motion from right
to left. He was a guy that just made every
play that came his way.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Yeah, a fantastic job by him, you know, obviously just
like overshadowed by it. Not the day we wanted, but
when he had his opportunities, he came up with the play.
And that's what we're expecting from our guys. You know,
who are the guys that can be that spark, that
can make that play. He's been working his tail off
to earn a spot on the roster, to try to
figure out a way to get him part of the
game plan, you know, And I just love that it

(33:49):
was able to show up a little bit today.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Coach on the defensive side, What can a game like
this for Trevin Wallace do for his future?

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Yeah, you just got to stack up these real reps.
You know, no more valuable experience than just being out
there and making the calls, making the plays, seeing the
different ways that an offense tries to attack, you know.
And I thought he did a great job from a
communications standpoint. I got to watch the film to be
able to evaluate exactly, you know, what happened. But he
played hard, he played fast, he was tough in the run,
you know, and so you just love, you know, he

(34:22):
and Claude being out there being able to, you know,
get some real real football together and talk and communicate.

Speaker 11 (34:28):
Coach Luke here, can you just talk a little bit
about Trevin mentioned that he asked if Josie could come,
and just the presiden said Josiet was on the sidelined
for for Trevin today.

Speaker 7 (34:37):
Oh, it's fantastic. I mean stuff we love, right, We're
just like that developmental that developmental mentality that we have,
you know of just like being able to all of
us included, you know, and particularly Josie, you know, being
able to like you know, just keep him grounded as
he's taken in these series and collecting the information. So
a fantastic opportunity for Josie to be there to support

(34:59):
tre Evan in this first outing.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Awesome, Coach, appreciate it, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Thanks guys. Coach has always mentioned Stu that they got
to look at the tape before they could talk and
so forth than they are. They're working, there's a lot
of things going on live and they see a lot
more when they watch the tape. What's it like as
a player, when you guys sit there in a room
and and you go back over a game and collectively
in your position group and watch tape together.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well you are you probably already know this saying it's
never as good as it looks or never it's never
as good as it seems, nor is it as good
or as bad as it seems. Messed out all up,
but you get the point. But we're gonna bring that tape.
But when you're watching film, you're you're very critical of yourself,

(35:43):
and hopefully you're a player that's more critical of yourself
than your coach. And so if I'm any of these guys,
you know you're going in and you're just trying to
find ways to get better. And what I love about
Trevn Wallace he knew that he needed someone there to

(36:03):
help him and guide him through this process of him
first first time getting the you know, the play calling job.
He wanted his guy there to help guide him and
to continue to learn through the game.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Right, like.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
A drive goes by, he gets on, he gets to
the sideline and he's asking, you know, Josie Jewel, hey,
what did you see? I want to know can I
do things better, just continuously wanting to learn, eager to learn.
It reminds me of a guy Luke Keikley. You know,
Luke was that guy that was continuously wanting to get better,
and he did it day in and day out, and

(36:41):
that's infectious. Guys will take notice of that and hopefully,
you know, it pays off. I mean, you see him today,
fifteen tackles ten solo. That's that's not by accident. That
was preparation. This guy was prepared. And and if I'm
if I'm a rookie, if I'm a vet, uh, and
I need to amp my game up and and and

(37:01):
my numbers getting called next week because there's a lot
of injuries. You better take note of Trevor Wallace because
right now he has the recipe.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
And when you look at Luke or you look at
go back, even on the quarterback side, and you'll get
like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady back in the day.
I mean, especially those two. I mean they weren't the
most athletic guy on the field, but they might have
been able to work, you know, from a skill level.
Maybe not as is perfect athletes as some of the
other guys, but they knew where to go and they
could see the game kind of slowed down for them,

(37:30):
and they could they knew where to be. And so
sometimes when you're young and you're you're brash and you're young,
and you go one hundred miles an hour, but you
over you overshoot what you're supposed to do, or you're
you don't know, you're not in the right spot even
though you're going one hundred miles an hour. And so
being able to refine that and be conscientious and know that,
I mean, that's that's pretty mature for a young guy.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh yeah, And again that's why you draft a guy
like that. And kudos and Dan Morgan for realizing him
out of the big group, right, want a guy in
here that loves football enough to where he's gonna watch
film on his own, he's going to figure out how
to get better on his own, because you know, that's
hitting the jackpot, you know, development. You know, we're in
a developmental process right now with our head coach first year,

(38:16):
trying to figure out how to you know, manage the
culture in the locker room and all the things. Having
a guy like Trevor Wallace that can just do it
on his own without anyone asking him. That's huge and
so because when you get guys like that in your
locker room, it becomes a locker room led team. I
look at the teams that I played on, it was

(38:37):
locker room led. You had guys like Thomas Davis. You
had guys like myself, Greg Ols and D'Angelo Williams, Mike Tolbert,
Steve Smith. I mean Brenton Berson, right, Brenton Berson was
a guy Jalen Coker right that just knew how to
be a pro, Like, just figure out how to be
a pro and make it. You got to want to

(38:59):
be here more than you want to be anywhere else.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
And that starts with the If the best player on
the team is doing all those things, it's harder for
the guys under him to walk out early.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah you know, right, yeah exactly, I mean walk out early.
But wherever you're walking to, hopefully it's for something football
really like purpose. You know, like maybe you're going to
get a massage, maybe you're going to going to go
see your chiropractor, you know what I'm saying, or maybe
you're going home to take a nap, right, like, whatever
it is, like, just make sure it's football first, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Good insight, all right, thank you Jay Stu along with Mike,
it's Jim here. When we come back, we'll hear you
mentioned Luke Kickley a guy. There's a little bit of
film study too. We'll get the final thoughts from him
and Jake Annie when we come back next. Thirty six
to ten Bears win over the Panthers. More to come
on the Carolina Panthers Radio Network, Mayor's thirty six Panthers ten.

(39:54):
Final score in Chicago today, Still to come our hardest
working player of the game, and we'll get more scoreboard
update information from Mike coming up right now, is headed
back to Chicago and hear from a Niche, Jake and
Luke and their final thoughts.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Final score from Soldier Field Bears thirty six Panthers ten.
Some games, like the first two weeks of the season,
you just get beat and nothing you do seems to work.
Sometimes it comes down to bodies, and the Panthers were
shorthanded down really six starters on defense. The Jadevion Clowney

(40:29):
leaves the game.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
J C.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
Horn was ejected late. Offensively, two starting offensive linemen Timo
and Austin Corbett left the game with injuries. Tommy Tremble
suffered a concussion, Xavier Lee Get left the game with injuries. Jake,
They're just weren't a lot of healthy bodies for the
Panthers as this game unfolded. And listen, the depth right

(40:53):
now on this team, it's just not there. It's not
where they would like it to be. It's not a
team that can afford the amount of injuries it's dealing
with right now.

Speaker 9 (41:03):
No, there's no doubt.

Speaker 10 (41:04):
And listen, Dan Morgan said it before the season, he
said it during the course of of cuts, We're going
to be active on the waiver wire. Our depth is
not We're not there yet. Do we think we'd have
the severity of the injuries. I don't think anybody did.
Our best football player, in my opinion, and I think
everyone sitting here is Derek Brown, Well he's not here. Well,

(41:27):
we're starting to get injury at the injury on the
defensive side, and attrition is catching up to us. And
I think that was evident today. Very worried about that
coming into today and it showed. And we we've played,
we faced a pretty good football team. I think this
is a pretty good football team with a lot of
talent and then on offense. Today, we didn't throw the
ball like we have the last two weeks. The pitching

(41:49):
and catching wasn't exactly up to par. Turnovers hurt us too.
We had a couple of fumbles. Uh, we had an
interception on the miscommunication. I'm more disappointed not seeing Exavier
to get in the second half, especially the way the
game was going. I think he could have been involved
more in the second half. But listen, Jalen Cocher, that's

(42:09):
one bright spot. I'm gona try to find a bright spot.
I thought he flashed on offense and made a couple
of plays for us. My run game was solid once again.
Chuba runs extremely hard. We had some good holes for
him to run through, and you know, that's kind of
that's kind of where we're at.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
Yeah, look, I think you got to look at some
building blocks from a game like this. Jake mentioned Jalen
Coker offensively. That might be a guy down the road
who can be a key piece of the good times
in the future. Trevin Wallace is another one fifteen tackles.
First career start, not first career start, but this is
somebody who you know hadn't played a whole lot, a

(42:47):
lot of responsibility on his shoulders. He got better as
the game went on. How much is today going to
help someone like Trevin Wallace.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
We just got thrown to the wolves right here.

Speaker 11 (42:55):
Like we talked about pregame, when when you go in
there as a young guy making your first start and
there's really nobody around you that can help you at
that second level, that's an older, experienced, veteran guy like
you'd love to throw him in there with Shack or
have him in there with Josie, but obviously that wasn't
the case. It looked like in the first half he
was kind of moving sideways, trying to get guys lined
up and empty in different formations and shifts. But then

(43:16):
as the game kind of came to him a little
bit there at the end of the second half. We
talked about he was a big part of the fourth
down stop there in the second half or in the
first half, and then in the second half he came
back and who's making plays downhill physical in the run game.
So it's just him continuing to get better, and it's
a credit to coach Hanson and Josie on the sideline
and really quite honestly to Trevin for sticking with it,

(43:40):
continuing the work hard, and he made some plays that
were really good players that were like, hey, Trevin, you
went back in the hole, make a big physical tackle. Hey,
get over the top of a pooler and then get downhill.
Your gap changes when somebody pulls. Now, go find your
new gap. So it's one of those things we don't
ever question his effort as toughness, his physicality, but now
it's going to be beyond him up his processing speed

(44:01):
and getting to the point where he can recognize stuff
pre snap. That's gonna take him with the ball a
little bit faster.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yeah, and Jake, even though the scoreboard says a thirty
six to ten lopsided defeat, this one just doesn't hit
the same way Week one and two did.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
No, I don't think there's any doubt and I'll go
back to it. There's pieces there on offense, and we
might have left a couple of things out there, but
I still think offensively, there's there's some encouragement going around
Week one and two.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
We didn't see much of that on offense.

Speaker 10 (44:32):
And yeah, I think Bryce played at the end of
the game, completed a few passes but that doesn't change anything.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Andy would be the starter.

Speaker 10 (44:39):
I don't see that changing anytime soon. And we got
to regroup to playing Atlanta team that w hey first
game at home against Atlanta this year. They're gonna be rested.
This arrested football team that puts up a lot of points.
I don't think that Atlanta defense is anywhere near the
Chicago defense. They have a couple of pieces, but I

(44:59):
just I don't think, and especially the run game wise,
So we're gonna have to lean heavy on this run game.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
We're gonna have to.

Speaker 9 (45:05):
Lean on it with this old line.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Hopefully Austin Corbett he's okay.

Speaker 10 (45:10):
But I do feel good that Brady Christensen can come
in and do a good job and add a piece
to this this offensive line. And we'll see what happens
with Taylor Moulton. I mean, we got we got some
injuries today. I mean, this was a tough, physical football
game and we came out on the bat side.

Speaker 6 (45:24):
The injury so far, Yeah, the injury is hurt worse
than the loss in a lot of ways. Final score
Bears thirty six Panthers ten. Carolina falls to one and four.
Panthers back at it next Sunday at home against division
rival Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yep, not the deepest team, got a lot of injuries
to deal with. I thought it was nice as a
side note to this game doesn't really move the meter much.
Jays doing the big picture things, but I thought it
was nice that Bryce Young got out there at the end.
It did a couple of good things, made some good throws.
And because the last time he was seeing they were
talking about the two games start and his benching. So
it's good to see him out there and have some

(46:00):
moments out there just moving forward.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I think even just for you know, for himself
right as he's going to develop, he's not done with
playing football. We saw I mean just him being out there.
We saw that very clearly, still capable of moving around
the pocket. And I think, you know, Jake and Luke,
you know, they hit on something there with processing, right

(46:25):
Trevin Wallace today as a linebacker, middle linebacker calling out
the defense, the processing curve is something that no one
really takes into consideration. You know, it takes time, especially
if you are a guy in a rattled situation, if
you were in a fiery situation, which Bryce has been in,

(46:46):
and so not only does. He has to learn how
to process, but he has to learn how to process
in a kitchen that's hot, right, So no one likes
to cook in a hot kitchen. You got to make
sure you open up the window. And for him, you know,
being able to go in there and get some reps.
You know, it speaks volumes to what this coaching staff

(47:06):
is really really all about. It's about development and trying
to get these guys to the best top to you know,
top shape that that can be to win games.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
And Mike is not always easy to cook when you
don't have all the ingredients in at our disposal right
right to do some more grocery shopping off the waiver
wire or something.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah, no, no, no doubt about that.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
But you know, I think the other thing too, you know,
with with Bryce and and I think this is a
good thing ultimately because I think it helps him down
the road. But you know, a lot of that pressure
I think is self inflicted too, and being the number
one pick overall, and that comes with a lot of
you know, it's just just different. You know, if you
picked tenth in the first round, you're still the first
round pick, but you're not the number one guy. Overall,
and there's that expectation and stepping in. So I think

(47:48):
it was great that he was able to to get in.
And you know, I thought he looked comfortable, you know,
like he didn't have the way to the you know,
I feel like the first couple, look, he looked like
he had the way of the world on his shoulders,
don't you think, I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Because he probably did.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, yeah, right, but yeah, I mean it's easy for us.
I mean, you know, we're not We're not in that situation.
I mean, you're closer to obviously that situation.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
He is a kid, just Tu's point last segment. Who
I think he goes home thinking and preparing for football.
I mean, he's not out partying and all that stuff.
I think, you know, Bryce was a kid that was
all in and it just it wasn't coming together yet
and it just may not be that. It's the time.
We're watching Sam Donald grow up in front of our
eyes a little bit here as a top three pick
years ago, and he's had some good moments here and there,
but this is by far the most consistent and the

(48:29):
best opportunity that Sam Donald has had in this league
with the Bikings in they're five and zero right now.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, Sam Donald could be the MVP this year if
you continue to play the way he's been playing. It
helps to have justin Jefferson. Now we talked about earlier
as we were just chatting, but you know, the way
they were playing where he's playing, you know, on the
road out of the country against you know, Aaron Rodgers
has no small feet, and I mean so just being

(48:55):
able to, you know, have the confidence that he's always had.
I mean I remember talking to him at Christian McCaffrey's
wedding for their offseason this past year and just talking
to him, he was just radiant with energy of just
I'm that guy, and I hope everyone takes notice this year.
And so right now we're watching something that he's been

(49:16):
planning on for his whole time that he's been in
the league.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
And I think one thing from the fan and media
side that I think it's gotten worse over time. And
I think some of it's the social media world that
we live in now, but everybody expects these guys to
be finished products immediately walking in the door, and even
if you're a two three year pro, that no one
gives people room to grow anymore.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, I think we have to slow down and make
some adjustments next year when we talk about the draft,
right what is our true expectations as a quarterback, you know,
coming in to the league next year, especially next year.
I don't really know any quarterback right now that just
jumps off the table that says, oh, that's a first rounder.
You know, Shador Sanders, he's gonna play in the league.

(50:00):
But I don't know if he's a guy that is
a CJ. Stroud right now. I don't know if he's
a guy that's like Caleb Williams or at Jane Daniels.
I think, you know, what we have to do is
keep these older guys at quarterback in the league longer
and figure out ways to circulate them because as we
see it, for us, you know, Andy Dalton is very

(50:20):
valuable to this team, and so don't put so much
pressure on you know, going out of going out of
your way to make sure you get you know, a
rookie quarterback, because you have other things on the field
that you need to probably address.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
At some point soon. As we can say, Joe Flacco
pretty good at football. Yeah, as again today he was
a phenomenal three touchdowns in well over three hundred yards.
Take a time out here when we came back, Mike
with another scoreboard update and more to come here. We's
got two more segments to go when we're wrapping it
up a thirty six to ten lost at Chicago today
for the Panthers. On the Southern Star Bourbon post game show,
you're listening to Panthers Football presented by Morris Jenkins.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Back Jim's Okey with more of the Panthers postgame show
pre simly by Southern Star un Official Bourbon of the
Carolina Panthers celebrate the spirit up in Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Capers losing Chicago thirty six to ten, fall to one
and four on the season. We owe you another scoreboard
update though games in progress and the finals from the
earlier games from Mike.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Well, this was crazy in San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
It was thirteen to ten after the second Jake Moody
field goal, and then the Niners blocked a field goal
attempt by Arizona and they ran it back sixty one
yards for a touchdown. They just kicked the point after.
So now it's twenty to ten San Francisco against the
Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Watching it right here. I guess I'm watching the right
zone technically, but yes, yes, it keeps changing.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
Denver at home at Mile High All, even at ten
apiece with the Las Vegas Raiders, also the Rams and
Packers even at seven apiece. Seattle and the New York
Giants that game seven.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
All as well.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
There was a long touchdown run for on a one
hundred and two yard fumble recovery in that game. Wow,
Seattle so special teams lunchpel game.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
That's a good fantasy football defense they have today too,
got one hundred yards in the score.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Yeah, if you have you have sales defense, you're looking
pretty good.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
We covered all the earlier games. Coming up tonight, it'll
be a Dallas at Pittsburgh. Monday night game is New
Orleans at Kansas City. Kansas City still fournoh so trying
to stay amongst the undefeateds there. And of course, just
from an NFC South perspective, the Thursday night game, Atlanta
beating Tampa Bay thirty six to thirty a walkoff win
for the Falcons in that game on Thursday night, and

(52:43):
it was like almost nine hundred yards passing between Baker
Mayfield and Kirk Cousins in that game.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, Baker had three touchdowns and a loss. And of
course Cousins had four touchdowns and over five hundred yards
passing in that game.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
A lot of passing in that game.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
So Broka record that game, right, Yeah, yep, that's our
drive around the league brought you buy your hound Dealers
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Speaker 2 (53:01):
All right, when we come back, Jay Stu will help
us with the hardest working player of the game, presented
by Sun Belt. Reynolds will pick one. I think we
all are probably gonna be able to think of the
same person. We won't reveal it yet. We used to
a final thought, so we had the final thoughts from
the booth. Stu, be thinking about your final big picture
thought moving forward. That's all coming up. Next final segment
on the way thirty six to ten. Panthers lose at
Chicago and you're listening to Panthers Football presented by Morris Jenkins.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
The Panthers postgame show continues. Please see him a by
Southern Star Fun official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers celebrate
the spirit of the Carolinas.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Thirty six to ten. It was Chicago a winner over
the Panthers. In the game that was played at Soldier
Field today drops the Panthers to one and four. Next
up a game at home versus the Atlanta Falcons. Great
having Jay Stue, the panthers all time leading rusher Jonathan
Stewart with us here for the post game show along
with Mike Pachico Jim Zoki with you. Now time for
the hardest Working Player of the Game, presented by sun

(53:59):
Belt Reynolds Wendell, equipment partner of the Carol Lineup Panthers,
who stood out as the hardest working player of the.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Game, Trevin Wallace.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, this is a unanimous pick Wallace.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, this was pretty and he finished the game healthy,
and he finished the game.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
And it was first time having to talk the whole entime.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Right and start and communicate in the whole game for
the first time.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, my man's probably really gassed right now.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, tired. I'm tired. Just think about what he
did today. We were just sitting in the other studio
watching it, so it was fun to see. And then
we always do a final thought. We call it three
and outs here and Mike you go first to show
ste how we do it and then we'll wrap things
up here.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
All right.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Well, I think for me, the biggest thing for my
three and out to come out of this game is
maybe a little bit from last week too. But it's
like that baby steps. I mean, there's there's certain things
that we have to to see and watch improve and
be happy with that because the results aren't going to
be necessarily what we wanted to be. But I thought
Trevin Wallas upping up and Coker on the offensive side,

(55:02):
you know, the young guys are going to have to
make some plays to kind of keep the hope up
right now to get ready for next year. So I
think it was it was good to see those guys
step up and make plays because it's you know, it's
hard when your opportunity to make it, and they were
able to move forward and do that.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Today, I'm kind of in that same thought in a
different way. Like stew had his cooking analogy, I'm thinking
of like those those guys that were like the panhandlers
back in the forty nine or days of like panning
for gold and like they're sifting, they're sifting is dirt
and its shells and all this stuff, and then they
find these little nuggets of gold every now and then,
and I feel like nobody wants to hear this. Be patient,
it's going to take time or whatever. But I think

(55:37):
when you lose thirty six to ten and you're one
and four, it's kind of where you are. And you
mentioned Cocher and you mentioned Wallace and some guys like that.
There's some known players here, and some of them are
hurt for the season, like like Derek Brown is your
best player, He's not going to play anymore this year.
You have some other good players here, But what is
that next batch of gold? And I think that's kind
of the developmental part that I'm thinking of Stu, as
far as just developing this roster and filling it out.

(55:59):
And today you guys like that taking steps forward, like
who are gonna be the core guys moving forward that
you could develop over a period of time. And I
think you just have to kind of take those moments
like today and see that you use that third round
pick very wisely, taking that linebacker out of Kentucky, I think.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Oh yeah, I mean, you guys hit it. I'm ahead.
I mean you got to figure out a way to
stack it. And the way you stack it is by
you know, basically planning around what's good, playing around the gold, right. Uh,
the gold that I saw today was the running game
that got abandoned early, and a little bit of a
little bit of it is because you couldn't stop anything

(56:34):
on the defensive side of the ball, so you're having
to play catch up. But you know, if I'm going
into the rest of the season, you know, I'm you know,
throwing my hands, you know, and basically calling all run
plays first, first first, you know, the first go out.
You know, next week we play Atlanta, it has to

(56:55):
be run heavy, and then you have to get into
the play action. That's that's the recipe right there. Trouball however, right,
you know, he almost had one hundred yards rushing and
they barely used him.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
That's where you have to surround yourself and everybody has
to come together with their heads and say, this is
the gold play action to Cocher or whoever's open, Let's
not drop any balls, right, Let's secure those catches the
way we have been able to in moments in time. So, Uh,
there's a lot of there's a lot of good, and

(57:27):
I think there there's a lot of good that we
can see on the horizon. It just doesn't feel good
right now because we're dealing with injuries. We're dealing with
a ton of injuries, and it's hard to evaluate when
you have that.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
And Mike, did you see what that chemistry was and
how Stu was a good teammate? It played off the
gold reference there. It's like he's been doing this his
whole life. His first post game show in the books.
Thank st Next time it'll be under better circumstances. Yeah,
like a win, for.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Example, it was an excellent read. He saw the hole.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
It's too fast through it, Stu, great having you really
appreciate it. Mike is always likes to hear. O Hambrick
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