Patriots Playbook 9/6: Eagles Preview and NFL Week I Predictions

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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As long as the quarterback takes his sweet time coming
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It is our maiden voyage. I'll be just a little
bit of a of a of a slow start anyway.
Here on Week one of the NFL regular season, John Rook,
Evan Lazarre's here coming up on the program. Chad Graff,
who covers the Patriots for the Athletic. He's gonna give
us his spin. Coming up in a bid. Davis Podero

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Like that, to leave it in the car. Yeah.

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Get the interaction, which which I feed. Yeah, which is great.
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Speaker 5 (02:59):
Uh.

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This is the twenty third year that we've done this show. Wow,
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in two thousand and then the first year of the
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that was another story altogether, but we managed to keep,
you know, appiling forward. But this is the first time
we've ever you know, streamed it, you know, with the

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the television aspect of it. So it's good.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's good.

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It's good for the numbers that it works out.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Some people really like watching on YouTube.

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D only knows why. I'm old man.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
It's the it's the platform, like they like the way
that the the player works better than sure.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, sure, I get that. Yeah, And it is all
about a visual medium. And let's shoot, that's part of
what we teach at school and all that kind of stuff, right,
all right, So we need to jump into this right
away since we're a little delayed to the process. But
first and foremost, I gotta get your thoughts on Jack
Jones and his issue largely being taken care of to

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our knowledge, because we still have and heard definitively from
the NFL, and if there's going to be any kind
of a suspension or any kind of a punishment that
he will have to pay for his shall we say transgression.
By the way, before I'm going to digress right off
the bat, I heard someone to say earlier today that
carrying guns inadvertently into airports is not an uncommon occurrence.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, somebody called into PU and said that in the
Pittsburgh I think it was Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Pittsbury I heard that call earlier today.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, Airport, there is twenty seven similar cases in the
last year, but I think where a lot of it.
I don't want to comment too much on the legal
proceedings with Jack Johnson. I'm not a lawyer, but I
think a lot of what happens is is that there's
there's strict guidelines and rules. You can transport guns on
a plane, but it just has to be done correctly, right,

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There's rules and guidelines of how they have to be checked.
They have to be in a little bot you know,
one of those Pelican cases, lock box whatever, all that stuff.
But I think that that's where a lot of this
comes from. I'm not saying that's necessarily what's happened with
Jack Jones, but sometimes it's just pure confusion of Oh,
I thought I could do this, which I know sounds crazy,

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but I think that that's where a lot of it
comes from.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Okay, be that as it may. How does he figure
into the rotation? Does he start? Yeah, does he come
in off the bench? As to Nickelback, what does he
do well?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I think you know, obviously it's game plan to game
plan with this team, so it's hard to say is
this guy starting cornerback?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (05:31):
You know?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Where is he factor into all of this? I think
in this week and in this game, the Eagles they're
a run heavy team. They run a lot of twelve
personnel to tight end. They want to come downhill at you,
they want to run the football. So is a Jack
Jones type of cornerback really the guy that you want

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in the game for that sort of game plan? Probably not.
They have all these safeties the Patriots do, and my
guess is this is going to be a pretty safety
heavy plan. I think you could at times see now
depending on what you call everybody, but I think you
could see four safeties on the field at times in
this game. So is this necessarily the game for Jack Jones?

Speaker 8 (06:15):
No?

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I also think that just in general, I maybe I
differ from some other people on Jack Jones in my
opinion of him as a player. I think he has moments.
I think he's got a ton of talent. But I
think he's a risk taker. I think he's a ballhawk.
I don't think he's a real man to man live
in your hip pocket. No pun intended that was bad

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sort of thing, Like, I don't think that that's that's
really his game. Like, I don't think that he's really
a strappy cornerback in that sense. But that's I don't know,
Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I have a different opinion on
that than that on other people. I just I guess
my whole point is is I I'm not totally convinced
that Jack Jones is is this great cornerback yet. I

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think there's been too much inconsistency in his game.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
We've seen the flashes, we've seen the physical ability, we've
seen the speed, we've seen the ability to cover, we've
seen the ability to make plays. And really that's what
you need on defense, you know, last couple of years since,
especially since the last Super Bowl, the cry has been
for playmaking ability on the defensive side of the wall.
Forget offense for a second, but you need guys that
can make stops and make plays when a play is needed.

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Jones showed last year as a rookie that he might
have the potential to do that. And you do want
playmakers on the field.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
You do. But I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
He's a good ballhawk, right, Like he'll go out there
and have a couple of interceptions that are really impressive,
like last year in Green Bay against Detroit. It's really
impressive plays, but the consistency, to me, down to down
is not necessarily there. He had lapses last year in
terms of, you know, knowing what coverage they were in
man to man, lapses things like that. I just I

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am not trying to be super down on him as
a player. See the potential, I see the talent. He's
a fun player to watch because he can turn the
ball over. But he's a boomer bus player right now.
There's just no other way around.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It about to say, you're just you know, deflating the
tires a little bit on him.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I just don't think that he's the type of guy
that is a down to down, lockdown corner. And I
get that he was a fourth round pick and right
like Christian Gonzalez, to me, is a very different breed
because Christian Gonzalez is going to stay with his guy
for seventy snaps a game. He might not have the
ball production that Jack Jones has, he might not have

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the plays on the football, but he's gonna live in
the kitchen of the opposing receiver for sixty five seventy
plays a game, or at least that's the hope, right,
Whereas I think with Jack Jones, he's a much more J. C. Jackson,
Like he's much more of a ballhowker, chance taker, whatever
you want to call it. And there was just a

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lot of instances last year where he didn't necessarily always
get burned for it because the quarterback didn't throw the
ball his direction. But you know, he lost a lot
of reps last year and especially and I felt over
committing to things, trying to jump things and then they
hit him with double moves or they just run by
him or whatever the case may be. And I just

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I guess I'm not you know, I hear a lot
of people that are saying, oh, Jack Jones is you know,
his legal situation, like huge win for the Patriots, Like, yeah,
it's a good thing that Jack Jones is going to
be able to play football for the Patriots versus him
not playing football, right, Like that's a good thing. Yeah,
But I think that you're some people are maybe just

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overrating the player what he currently is a little bit.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, Let's leave that and set it aside for
a moment, because clearly time is going to tell on
that one. If that's issue won the n issue one
A has to be the offensive line, and who's going
to show up healthy to play and able to play
and able to keep Philadelphia's ferocious defensive front somewhat off
of Mac Jones to where he has a chance to
actually throw the ball the Patriots have a chance to

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actually run the ball decently. Yeah, and I'm kind of
curious as to your thoughts of what you think that
offensive line might look like on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Well, so there's a couple of different scenarios here. One
the offensive line, in terms of what I think is
going to be out there, I think there will be
some rotation because you don't usually go wire to wire
in Week one anyways, as they're sort of building up
the endurance and things like that. And I would also
say this, guys that have been hurt, Guys haven't practiced
a whole lot. So to expect Calvin Anderson, who I

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do think is going to be the starting right tackle
on Sunday, but to expect him to play sixty five
snaps on Sunday is unrealistic. He hasn't practiced enough. He
was very very ill with whatever the situation was that
kept him out of training camp. So I would expect
other guys, whether it was the two newcomers a city,
so somebody else is going to get involved at the
right tackle spot. But I do think Calvin Anderson will

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start at right tackle, and I think the rest of
the line is going to be what we expected going
into the year. I think it's gonna be Tremp Brown
on the left side, Strange jug left guard, Andrews at center,
and on Winning at right guard. So those four spots
from right guard to left tackle are going to be
exactly how we anticipated going into the year. It's right
tackle that's still the question mark.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And do you think Calvin Anderson is one at least
gets the nod there?

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, I think Calvin Anderson will start. You know, he's
with it, been with the team the entire time, he's
with the team in the spring, participated in the spring,
so he has a little bit of a leg up
on guys like Vederian Lowe and Tyrone. He also has
NFL experience. He started twelve games in the league over
three years. Those guys haven't even played it down in
the NFL yet, so in same with so obviously being
a rookie, So I think that those guys could spell

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him could rotate in with him, but I think Calvin
Anderson gets the nod. The other thing with the Eagles
front that I think is going to be really interesting
is they didn't blitz a whole lot last year. They
weren't in a very exotic team last year. Then he
used a lot of stunts, blitzes, you know, all these
different bells and whistles that we see the Patriots do
a ton. They didn't do any of that really last year.

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It was kind of a you know, Jonathan Gannon is
one of those guys that got a head coaching job
out of the Eagles success. But there's been a lot
of pushback in Philly from Eagles fans and media about
how vanilla they were in the pass rush last year,
even though they had seventy sacks. Right, So does decide
their new defensive coordinator. Does he scheme it up a
little bit more, do they have more blitzeing, do they

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have more creepier pressure, simulated pressure, what do they run
in terms of their front or are they going to
still just be a team that's going to try to
win their one on ones and know that we have
better dudes than you do and that's just going to
be it.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
How much of a factor, Evan, do you think Philadelphia
not having played their starters at all during the preseason
is going to have on Week one? Is this sort
of a calculated gamble maybe that the Eagles have going
into this And this will be a question for Daves
Panero from Eagles Insider coming up a little bit, But
I'm just kind of curious as to your point of
view and whether or not the Patriots might be in

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somewhat of a position to take advantage of that.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
I think a little bit.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
I mean they're gonna have some rusts. I think that
that's going to be clear. There's gonna be some rust
early on. And I also would say that they have
two new play callers, so on both sides of the ball.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
So Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Is gonna be in a game getting the plays relayed
to him by Brian Johnson for the first time on Sunday,
and there's going to be a feeling out process there.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I always feel like that maybe lingers in the first half,
then they kind of get into a groove, they get
into halftime, they maybe make a few adjustments, and I
would expect the Eagles to be humming in the second half.
So if you can get out to a lead, if
you can hold it close.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Wait, wait, wait, you know what's coming. If you win
the coin flip, take the ball.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
No, no, I didn't say that, but I did a
damn I will say that. I think that there's a chance.
And hopefully you know, for the Patriots that they are
in a good position at halftime because the Eagles might
be working through some rust and things like that. But
once the second half hits, I think the games.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
You had best be in position, I think to steal
the game from them, Yeah, because they'll make a charge
after halftime, halftime adjustments, whatever it's called. All right, messing
time is over. Yeah. I mean, this is a super
Bowl team here that we have that's expected to be
a Super Bowl contender, could easily be the best team
in the NFC, certainly maybe the best team the Patriots

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face all season long. And you got them in Week
one and you get all this emotional hubbub with Tom
Brady and YadA YadA, and yeah, you know that's to
me the biggest concern that I have almost is just
the emotion of the day the fans. We know are
going to be keyed into what this day is really
all about because they didn't get a chance to give
Tom a proper goodbye, and that's what this weekend is

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supposed to be about. But the football part of it
is enormous for this team when you consider the schedule
strength over the first half of the season. I mean,
if you got plus one in this week, huge huge
difference maker, maybe for the entire seventeen week season.

Speaker 5 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
I might be eating my crow on this, but I
think that they're catching the Eagles at the right time.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
I would not.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
We're gonna agree on this one. You and I don't
agree a lot. We're gonna agree on this one. They're
catching the Eagles absolutely perfectly. If if there was any
other time to play them, would be the last game
of the year when it means nothing.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, but I think that the playing them right out
of the gate, you have the advantage of them resting
their starters in the preseason, you have some advantage of
the new coordinators and different things that they're dealing with.
In terms of that, I think that there's a chance
that you might be playing a little bit of a
of a less you know, not as fine tuned of
a team that I don't know if the execution is

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going to be quite as clean as what you're going
to see in a couple months from Philadelphia. And maybe
the energy in the building does help in that respect
as well. Like I don't think that it's really going
to matter too much to the Eagles if it's a
rowdy crowd or not.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
No, no, no, that won't matter at all of them.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Maybe the players can feed off some of the juice and.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
There will be some juice. And let's let's remind you
that there will be more juice in the building because
the opened end of the stadium is now closed with
the new club and the new scoreboard and the new
tower and everything else that they've got, which they're dedicating
actually Friday, I believe they're officially going to cut the
ribbon on everything, so everything's supposed to be open and
ready to go. It is going to be a different

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sounding environment, and it's something I think that well many
of us who have been here for the entire existence
of Jillette Stadium have been waiting for.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, it's definitely different. I just know from being out
there the little bit that we've been able to be
out there so far this summer, it does feel like
it plays different. It's always on that field for whatever reason,
for all the years I've been doing it's always windy
as hell.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
I can't explain.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
I think it's because of the horseshoe and like the
way that the open end of the stadium.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
And the wind comes out of the north word.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, And it was always windy, Like even in
the middle of the day on a Wednesday, when we
were out there shooting videos or whatever the heck we
were doing, it was windy. So I think this version
of the stadium with the closed end, the wind's going
to be held in a little bit more like in
terms of it's not going to be as wendy.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
I guess I should say I believe.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
At least of the times that we've stood on field
level recently, it hasn't been nearly as wendy.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Now, not as breezy as it once was. Now.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
That's interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
That's a big factor. So I don't know. We'll see
how the issue plays off. I'd be remiss if I
didn't ask you the one question that I'm going to
ask of everybody to answer today, as you call in
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Twitter handle, or you can hit me up on my
Facebook page of John dot Rook to converse about the show,
about the team, about what we're talking about. But I'm
just you know, I've been reading a lot of the media,
which we're going to get to in just a second here,
but a lot of guys and a lot of ladies
who cover the beat as you do, Yes, like to
make predictions, you know, because based on their observations over

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the course of the spring, in the summer, in training camp,
and so I hear you know, five things that will
happen with the Patriots, the top ten things that should
happen for the paprio. I'm looking for one bold prediction,
just one. I want you to come up with something
that maybe you've been thinking about, maybe you've seen someone
mention that you'd like to take a step further, But

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one bold prediction that you think will happen to the
New England Patriots in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
How bold are we talking? Does it need to be
real bold?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
No, as bold as you want to make it. I mean,
i'll give you want me to give you mind to
start with. Oh, now I have to put myself in
the corner on this one.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
I need to know the bold meter here? Am I
going like realistic bold or bold bold?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Well, you can go as bold as you want. I'm
gonna say the Patriots make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Okay, So I was gonna say the Patriots are gonna
have a top ten offense.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
I don't know how you're gonna idea.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Probably have to have a top ten offense in order
to make.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Or maybe we're on the same page. How you calculate
offense yards points DV eight like you do it? I
had on your own time. Yeah, I'm just telling you
that they're gonna they're they're gonna be better offensively than
people think. I think they're back to a top ten offense.
Not twenty twenty one. They were also a top ten offense,
but it kind of felt I don't know. They had
some fifty burgers against the Jets and the Jaguars. They

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had some defensive touchdowns I think that this offense is
gonna take a big step forward.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
I'm putting it out there as top ten. I think
that's the best way to put a tangible thing on it.
And I think this offense is going to be better
than people think.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
I'm gonna give you sort of a one to a
selection on that one though, just because I think they've
got tremendous depth up front. I think key On White
is a legitimate candidate for Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Oh wow, that is that's bold bold. That's not I
think that's a good one. It's big bold.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
We didn't like it.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
It's good bold.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's what I mean, you didn't like.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
White is going to be one of those guys. And
I think Christian Barmore to an extent that was similar
in his rookie year. Where the advanced analytics are really
gonna like Keon White, like his like his pressure rate
and stuff like that. It's gonna be good the sacks
and like people that just go off the traditional box score.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
I'm not sure if he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Be I think he might score well in that traditional
box score, which why it will make him account.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Okay, I look at him as more of like a
guy that might be really disruptive. I just don't know
if he's necessarily going to be registering on the statute
defensive Rookie of the Year.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
And not get enough reps in that rotation.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
We don't know, right, but I think he'll be disruptive.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
I do all right, all right, thanks man, appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
They had a chat for me.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
I will definitely do that. Evan Lazarre, Patriots dot Com.
He's headed out to practice and that brings in Chad Graft,
who covers the Patriots for the Athletic and the Athletic
dot Com. Hey Chad, how's it going great? Great? Thanks
for taking a little time today. I'll start with what
I ended there with, Evan, If you don't mind one
bold prediction from you for twenty twenty threes New England Patriots.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
You want the optimistic one of the pessimistic one.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I want the first thing that comes in your mind.

Speaker 8 (21:06):
All right. The first thing that came to mind was,
and I truly believe this. I know that the forty
nine ers are great, and the Jets are very good.
There's a lot of good defenses, but I think that
this defense is going to end the year as the
number one defense. I think that Bill Belichick is kind
of on the cutting edge of what he's trying to
do here with positionless defense and having guys like Jabrill
Peppers and Adrian Phillips and Kyle Duger and now Marty

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Mapu a bunch of guys on that back end who
can do a lot of different things, so that when
the Buffalo Bills try to run at you with two
tight ends, you've got guys like Mapu who can play
in the box and stop the run against them, but
they're also good enough to drop back into coverage and say,
you know, go ahead, we'll take Marty Mapoo gets Salton
kid like, go ahead, Josh Allen take that matchup. So

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I'm not quite as bullish on the offense as it
sounds like evidence, But I'm extremely high on what this
defense is and what I think it's going to do well.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I'm going to tend to agree with you rather than
Evan on that one. I'm a little more bullish on
the defense, and I think that we were sort of
led to believe that would likely be the case this year,
regardless of whatever they did. And look, we've talked about
it on this show during our offseason program as well,
that I thought one of the bullet points for the
entire season would be the offensive line. I thought they
draft an offensive lineman, you know, early in the draft,

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and silly me, they didn't do that. And now we
see the kind of offensive line troubles that they're having
with the depth and the injury and everything else that's
going on. If the offensive line can stay, you know,
can get together first of all, and then stay relatively healthy,
then I think the offense's chance of improving and being
a top ten offense, as Evan suggested, improve immeasurably. However, however,

(22:44):
I don't think that's going to happen, because, as we
all know, it's a war of attrition and man alive.
You know, you got to keep guys healthy, You got
to keep your quarterback healthy. And I'm just I'm having
real problems believing that through seventeen eighteen weeks that you
got to play games, that the pages are going to
stay as healthy as they're going to need to stay

(23:04):
in order for them to truly be successful.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
I'm with you.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
I think the offensive line is probably the biggest concern
more than anything else. On the offense, Like I'm not
terribly high on DeVante Parker and Juju Smith Schuster as
you're one two, but I'm higher on that than I
am this current offensive line set up and the fact
that you're then turning to uh day three rookies. Probably
if either of your guards get hurt or if your

(23:29):
center gets hurt at right tackle, I still don't really
know what you have. I'm not even sure who you're
starting right tackle.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Is well, we suspect we suspect Calvin Anderson suspect it.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
Sure, and you know I could see that, and that
makes sense, but boint it gives me. It certainly gives
me pause, especially against that defensive line. Like Calvin Anderson
hasn't really practiced all summer because of this illness that
he talked about, yep, and so you know he's coming
into a really brutal matchup. Yeah, Hey, we know you
haven't got a whole lot of practice. But here's the

(24:03):
team that you know, almost broke the NFL sack record
last year.

Speaker 9 (24:07):
Yeah, good luck.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Seventy sacks for this team, seventy Chad seven. That's seven, oh,
not seventeen seven. Oh. And the Patriots, they were so good. Yeah,
they were. The Patriots gave up forty what forty forty
one last year and that was a bad year from them,
and the Eagles had seventy.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
And so you know, I think that means that you're
probably going to see a ton of quick game and
a lot of short passes yep. Probably a lot of
run path options yep. Though you know, I'm not sure
that I would turn on the game expecting to see
seventy yard bombs, but no, I think that's probably what
the offense looks like, at least early on, until you
are more sure about your offense.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
This may be one of the fastest games that we've
seen on television in the NFL this year. And this
leads me into the next issue. I was going to say,
how do the Patriots beat a team like Philadelphia when Philadelphia,
maybe top to bottom, may have the most well rounded
roster of any in the entire NFL. And I'm gonna
include Kansas City in that one. I like the Eagles.
I'm very bullish on the Eagles in the NFC. You know,

(25:09):
to get back in the big game. I and as
long as again, health is the key, and I always
have to add that because we know health is always
a factor. It is every year, and now that we
have seventeen meaningful games to play, it's certainly gonna be that.
And when the NFL goes to eighteen games and they're
gonna go and maybe sooner than we think, it's gonna
be even more of a factor. You got to keep

(25:30):
guys healthier longer, and so you'll see rule adjustments in
this and that the idea is going to be able
to keep guys healthy on the field. So that being said,
this team, this Eagles team, is really really good in
the way that the Patriots beat them as a they
get them early, as we just talked about a little
bit as great that you're getting early in the year

(25:51):
before any of their starters have even played a minute
because nobody played in the preseason and be run the
damn ball. Now, let me codify that for a second.
If you don't have an offensive line to run behind,
you're not gonna run very well. So it's good that
you have Ramandrie Stevenson and obviously Zee Elliott to pound

(26:12):
the ball between the tackles because they're going to need to. Yeah,
you're gonna have to throw it somewhat but if you
can come out and control tempo and get four or
five yards on a first down and leave yourself in
third in short situations, you got a chance to grind
out some of those drives against an Eagles team that
if you can stay even with them or maybe even
have a slight lead at halftime, Now you're gonna put

(26:34):
them under pressure. Now you're going to force them to
feel the pinch a little bit, and then you might
actually force them into a mistake, which again they don't
normally do, and you cannot can not make mistakes yourself.
And of course we all know the offensive line troubles
that the Patriots had trying to avoid mistakes a year ago.
So it lines up to give my whole pointer, Chad,

(26:56):
is it lines up to give them a shot I
think more than a legit shot really on Sunday. But
Philly's talent could still end up winning out unless you
stick to a game plan for sure.

Speaker 8 (27:10):
And here's what's interesting to me about that game plan
and what I think we'll see is a lot of
this both roster construction and what we've seen in training
camp has been built around twelve personnel. Where Bill O'Brien
once again uses a lot of two tight ends. It's
why they brought Mike Kiseki in. And I think what
will be interesting against the Eagles is trying to identify

(27:31):
what the Eagles want to do defensively against that. When
the Patriots come out with their two tight ends, they
can either stay in their base defense and then if
you're the Patriots, you're thinking, you know, heck, yeah, this
is great. You're in your base devents. We get a
linebacker or safety against Mike Kiseki and Hunter Henry, like
Max Jones, will take that matchup all day long. But
to your point about running the ball, what becomes interesting

(27:51):
to me is if the Eagles go to their nickel
defense with an extra defensive back, as I think they
probably will, they don't want Mike Kiseki and Hunter Henry
to eat them. Then the door opens up against a
lighter box to be able to run the ball. And
I think at that point, if you're the Patriots in
twelve personnel against nickel defense.

Speaker 9 (28:10):
You have to be able to run the ball.

Speaker 8 (28:11):
It ideally makes things a little bit easier for your
offensive line that does have some questions, and so I
think that's kind of a big mashup to me is
in twelve personnel when the Eagles are playing light daring
you to run, are you able to run the ball effectively?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
And that is a major question, a major question. I
expect the Patriots to also, you know, be in that
you know, personnel set because they're going to need to
assist their offensive line. We need, you know, this team
will need blocking. I fully expect. I mean, I'll put
it to you this way. I'll be surprised if Zeke
Elliott doesn't get more time than Remandre, not because Remandre

(28:50):
is not better, but because we know that Elliott is
a renowned pass blocker, and there may be especially in
passing downs, even though he's pretty good at catching the
ball himself, the knee to keep him backed, to make
sure Mac's you know, not gonna get flattened in the backfield.
That's the biggest concern that I really have. If Mac
can stay on his feet long enough. And yeah, I'm

(29:11):
thinking that certainly short passes, slants, tight ends, whatever they
can get to, but nothing that's gonna be more than
twelve to fifteen yards downfield. If he can, if he's
able to get those passes out and frustrate Philadelphia, then
I think the pages would be right there at the
end with the chance to take it.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Yeah, that's that's a really good point about Elliott, and
I think that you can see some of that with
play action too, as a way to kind of keep
him in and as a way to give mac Jones
more options aside from just backs protecting all the time,
because I think often we think, hey, the offensive line
is struggling, they've got a tough matchup, like just leave everybody.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
In and that'll be the way to solve it.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
And then you suddenly look up and he's got like
three targets downfield and nobody's open, and all of a
sudden you're in a world of hurt. Right Ezekiel Elliott
can provide, you know, I think a really big boost
in that area. And you know, in addition to the
short ar stuff, I think is a really important part
of the reason that he's here to begin with.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, all right, so Chad, you know, you know, we
talked a little bit about bold predictions. We kind of
feel like we know what this team probably should do
in an effort to you know, have a chance to
really win this game. The story within the story, the
part of the reason for the three ring circus and
everything that's going on this weekend is obviously Tom Brady

(30:26):
gets a chance to be embraced given the old, big
New England hug, you know, by the fans who will
be in attendance and which have made this ticket the
toughest ticket right now in the regular season for the
entire NFL to obtain, certainly the most expensive average ticket
on vivid seats as I saw checked it early this morning.

(30:49):
The last time I look, so here we are midweek
as we're doing this show, average ticket price was seven
hundred and thirty six dollars, right, So there's a lot
of who there's a lot of hubbub going on above
and I'm wondering how well this team can focus and

(31:12):
stay above it. And we don't know. There are twenty
new players on this team from as compared to who
weren't on this roster a year ago. Maybe that's a
good thing, maybe that's not a good thing. But I'm
just curious as to your your your you know, you've
talked to these guys, You obviously know the coaches. What's
your feeling on this team's ability to shout out noise

(31:35):
and accomplish a mission.

Speaker 8 (31:37):
Well, it's interesting because even the players who were not
here when Tom Brady was here, but there's just no
hiding from the overarching presence that he is everything that
he meant to this organization and the team and the
sixth Super Bowls and on and on. As Remandra Stevenson
said today, he feels like he walks past five pictures
of Tom Brady just going down the hall. So Prady

(31:59):
is kind kind of ever present, even if he is,
you know, embarking on his first year of post playing
career now. So it'll be interesting to see how they
kind of handle that. There are going to be plenty
of former players, I think, as Tylas said, lingering around.
But a lot of this is going to go on
at halftime when the players aren't there, and an opportunity

(32:22):
for Brady to say thank you, and the fans too
they thank you as well, which should all be very cool.
But there's no doubt that this is going to be swirling,
like the place is going to go crazy in warm
ups if Mac Jones comes over and gives Brady a
hug or Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
That some of that has to be talked about right now,
right like, Hey, I'm going to do this, and you know,
we're going to get the fans behind this. We're going
to show that we're all on the same page. I
thought they alluded to that a little bit when Mac
basically told people that you know, he told the media
and which is telling everybody now that you know Brady's
one of his mentors. I'm not sure anybody really knew that, right, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:57):
And and it caught people, I think, by a little
bit surprised when the picture came out of the two
EVM hanging out at Crafts party this summer to get there.
So you know, there's plenty of a relationship there. But
you know, at the same time, we're also talking about
the head coach who you know minimizes distractions perhaps as
well as anybody else, and prepares for every little thing
as well as anybody else. This is the coach who

(33:19):
you know, was so worried about whether the roof was
going to be closed or opened for kickoff in the
Super Bowl in Atlanta. So it's a very big deal
and I think it's gonna be super cool. But I also,
you know, I think that Belicheck will do a decent
job of just making sure that everybody knows the assignment
a hand.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
All right, Chad, Hey, thanks for a few minutes. I
do appreciate it, and I'll look forward to visiting with
you from time to time throughout the year.

Speaker 8 (33:45):
Excellent, all right, thanks for talking.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You got it. Chad graph the Athletic. He's the Patriots
beat writer for the Athletic dot com at Chad graph
on X. That sounds so weird? Formerly known as Twitter?
Is it gonna stay that way? Is? Is he is?
Is he really gonna say that way? Is Elon gonna

(34:07):
keep it and leave it? X? I thought the X
was just sort of a placeholder for a new logo,
that it was still Twitter, but he put the X
in there to get rid of the little, you know,
tweety bird. And they we're gonna come up with a
new logo, and now they're just kind of leaving it
as X.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
I had heard that all his other businesses were had
X in the title or something to do with X.
So they're all trying to imrge him as one thing.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Uh So, so it might be that we end up
getting another logo here is basically what's gonna happen. Probably
it's possible Okay, Well, who the hell knows anymore? All
I know is that, you know, I always say, you know, uh,
post it on X parenthesis formerly Twitter. You know that
kind of thing because you almost have to, you almost
have to like suggest that because nobody knows what the

(34:50):
hell we're talking about. X the hell is X. Okay,
I'm just getting used to the little tweety bird and
now the X really come on. Yeah, the things that
you know make us go eight five five PATS five hundred,
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(35:12):
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or you can hit my Facebook page if you'd like.
Let's get to the phones here. We've got Daves Spadero,
Eagles insider, coming up at the top of the hour,
and the one and only pro football guru himself, Russell S. Baxter.

(35:35):
He'll join us and our number two at bottom of
the hour to go over week one throughout the entire NFL.
So there's a lot of stuff going on right now.
The main question to you, however, is a question that
I did post to both Chad and to Evan earlier,
and I want you to come up with one bold prediction,
not two, not three, not seven, not ten. I want one.

(35:57):
What's on your mind, front and set first and foremost.
What do you think has to happen? What do you
think needs to happen? What is the biggest reason for
success or failure for this Patriots team? And you know
you can have to do with the team, you have
to do with the individual. You know it had to
be Patriots are going to win twelve games? Well, that

(36:18):
would be mighty bold, you know. And I would say
that most people would laugh at you if you said that.
But if that's what you think will happen, then bring
that to the table and tell us why it's okay.
There's no such thing. This is a silly question or
an answer, or a stupid one. As my students all
know that the only stupid question out there is the
one that you don't ask. So let's kind of take

(36:39):
that attitude with this one and welcome you in the program.
Tim is in the UK, he gets to lead us
off here. Hey, Tim, you're in the playbook. I'm good.
How's it going today, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Not too bad to all right, I'll stoll my bold prediction.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Please.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
This is the take that has kind of earlier in
the summer, when we didn't re sign Jacoby and we
signed Juju, I thought, at best, that's going to be
a net neutral move. I think, yeah, there's you know,
there's obviously a big risk with Juju kind of you know,
coming in learning the playbook, learning a new system, and

(37:21):
they're the injury concerns as well, and you know, we
haven't seen much of him this summer. I thought at
the time, Yeah, it's going to be at best as
good as Jacoby was last year. And you know, given
that we haven't seen much of him this summer, I
think that's you know, probably not that bold of a
take anymore.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
No, I actually like it. Here's another bold take for Jujo.
He stays healthy in plays you know fifteen games. Well
that which would that would be? Now that's a bold take,
I mean, you know, yeah, well I think it would
surprise everybody. And if you you know, believe the media,
much of the media thinks that Juju's got a bad
knee and it's getting ready to explode, and you da YadA.

(38:00):
I mean I hope that doesn't happen. Who would want
anybody to have that happen. But at the same time,
I think we realize that that's part of the reason
why they kept so much younger depth at wide out
to sort of protect themselves from what they feel might
be an inevitability. I don't know. I mean time is
only going to tell. I just I think that if

(38:22):
Juju is able to stay healthy and stay on the
field and play, you know, let's say, if he's able
to play fourteen of the seventeen, I think that's also
qualifies as a bold prediction.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And if he I'd take fourteen out of seventeen.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Will you take fourteen out of seventeen for any of
the receivers, wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I mean, that's health that receivers low key kind of
a really big problem. I think, you know Parker, you know,
dinged up. I think he's back up practice now, but
you know, prone to getting dinged up, and he's up
there in age. Yeah, Tykwon, it's like he's going to
be out for a lot of the season.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I think they've got They've got a lot of depths
at receiver, but a lot of it is unproven. They
rookies recent signings this summer. Yeah, including some that have
come in pretty late in the process. So you know
how much they're going to realistically contribute.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I don't know they do. And here's here's an even
boulder take along those lines. Kendrick Bourne will be the
Patriots leading receiver in number of catches and yards and touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Why I didn't think that's bold? I think I agree.
I don't think that the bold.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I just don't think DeVante Parker and or Juju Smith
Schuster may be on the field enough. And if Kendrick
Bourne has, uh, you know, the kind of season that
we anticipate him having, playing with a little bit of
a chip on his shoulder, you know, and how he
might have been used or misused let's say, by the
previous coaching staff whatever, for whatever reason it is. I

(40:01):
think Kendrick Bourne is the kind of guy that could
become you know, uh, Mac Jones's binkie and and be
a reliable target for him. And teams will start to
realize that. And that's when other teams will get in
trouble if they start, you know, shading over a safety,
let's say, to help Kendrick borne out. I'll take my
chances with Juju or DeVante Parker if they're healthy in

(40:21):
the game, either one in single man coverage, I will
take my chances. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah, I mean I think if you know, if they're
if they're in the game, it means they're healthy. And
if they're healthy, I think they're they're the decent options.
I'm not I'm not all doom and gloom because we
didn't get.

Speaker 10 (40:36):
Hopkins, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
I think I think we've got, you know, some some
half decent options that receiver. But yeah, if they're healthy,
it's going to be the question, right But yeah, he's opened.

Speaker 11 (40:46):
For a big season for KB.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Because I also just really think he's a likable guy.
I wanted to. I want to. I want to see
him do well.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Absolutely anything else, Tim, I had.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
A couple of real nuts and bolts quests that I
was hoping to ask Evan. I don't know if he's still.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
There, but Evan is offered practice because Mac Jones is
getting ready to go speak, so he needs to be
there for that.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
But you can call you you.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Can called Evan and talk to him personally because you'll
do his Catch twenty two show tomorrow at the same time,
I might.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Do, but I might ask you if Adam on the line, sure,
go ahead. So two of the rookies that we didn't
see much of, Douglas and Mapu Yep, questions about how
we might see them. Use, does Douglas give the red
zone off? And any kind of juice with this kind

(41:41):
of short area quickness? No, just thinking especially of the
the Adalman touchdown in Super Bowl forty nine.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
If he can you know, if he if he give
the place, Yeah, if he can run roots like you
know Julian did, then yeah, you might see that because
as we know, you know, that first step is usually
the lulu and you either you know, hang on to
the cliff or you fall off it. So I mean,
I would initially say no, because you have a tendency
to go over the top in red zone situations. But

(42:08):
at the same time, why not set up some kind
of a screen, even a bubble screen, and let him
get behind a couple of blockers and see if he can't,
you know, make chicken saladut of chicken feathers right and
get into the end zone that way. So I would
say initially no, but then upon further review, I'm going
to figure that they're going to figure out a way
to get him the ball somehow, some way, anyway they can.

(42:29):
And that's part of the reason why we didn't. That's
part of the reason why none of us saw him
a lot at all, except for what a couple of
snaps in the preseason, because frankly, I think they're, you know,
they're playing poker. They're holding their cards to the vest.
They don't want anybody to see anything.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we'll see him in the
end zone a bit and then finally quickly Mafoo and
I'll get off the line here. Mafu covering tight end,
something that Doug has struggled a bit with and it's
been a bit of a week foot on the defense,
does matter give them anything in tight coverage?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Sure? All right, all right, Tim, thank you for the
phone call. Uh. You know, I think you'll probably see
Mapoo this week. And the reason that you'll see him
is because, as Evan mentioned earlier, uh, you'll probably see
more of a hefty, uh safety heavy safety lineup defensively, uh,
just because of Philadelphia's uh, you know, pension for you know,
run pass option as well. I think you can give

(43:25):
him every opportunity to win a job and keep a job. Now,
I think they'll move him back and forth. I think,
you know, my thought process is that you might see
him line up in a linebacker slot, even though technically
you know, he's a safety, and I think that's where
they sort of envision him. But I don't think they
want to to, you know, stickpin his position. I think

(43:45):
they want him to be that versatile sort of, you know,
line up anywhere kind of guy where teams have to
account for him, because if you have to account for
him and a sign a guy to him to make
sure that you've got the blocking responsibilities here. If he's
on the line or reviews, you know, playing a linebacker,
that's one last guy that can pay attention that you
need to pay attention to on that end of the field.

(44:10):
I'm anxious to see him. I'm anxious to see how
many reps he gets. I'm anxious to see how he
matches up. Does he go exclusively exclusively with the other
team's tight ends. Does he cover backs coming out of
the backfield? Does he support well in run defense if
he's caught on the field in a running down situation.

(44:32):
These are all things that we have to learn about
the kids that you know, we haven't seen yet on
the field, and I think that obviously will start this week.
All right, Sean and Vancouver, thanks for hanging in. Sean,
You're in the playbook.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
Thanks John.

Speaker 12 (44:45):
I'm actually in Montreal right now, heading to the airport.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Fact, you're still on vacation.

Speaker 12 (44:50):
I'm still well at ending. But yeah, oh lucky vacation time.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
I could I could have done with about two more weeks, Sean,
Not for nothing. I couldn't with about two more weeks,
a couple of more weeks you know, on the golf
course without any you know, you know, going to class
and you know, trying to you know, improve impressionable young
minds in this country. I think I could have gone
with a couple more weeks of you know, swinging it

(45:17):
often on the golf course.

Speaker 12 (45:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, my bold prediction might
not be that bold, is I say the Patriots defense
will be even better. So they were about seven in
the NFL and points giving up last year. In twenty
twenty two, I say they're going to be top five.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Okay, top five is a good one. I think that's
a reasonable goal. Bold, But you know, but it's bold. Look,
if they're top five, if they have a top five defense,
I would also tell you that for them to be
a playoff team, they need to be a probably a
right at about a top ten offense. Evan said that earlier,

(45:56):
and I concur with that. It's got to happen on
both ends. Could they snare in with say a top
five or a top three defense and maybe a top
fifteen offense, Yeah, they could, but a lot of that
is gonna be dependent upon how the teams around them.
Do you know, Uh, I was just gonna say. Russell
Baxter wrote earlier this week that you know, it's not

(46:19):
impossible for four teams from the same division to get
into the postseason. It's happened a couple of times before.
I'll get him to expand on that in the next hour,
but you know, he doesn't think that the AFC East
is that division this year, and I would, respectfully, you know,
disagree with that because I think all four teams largely
have the ability to beat each other. The Patriots are

(46:41):
the one that everybody's looking at. Everybody's going to assume,
you know that the Bills are going to be at
the top, and that you know the Dolphins are still
going to be good if you know, he stays, you know, healthy,
and that you know the Jets are going to be improved,
and okay, that's fine, but you know what happens when
you assume.

Speaker 12 (46:57):
Right, yeah, you make an ass you know, And.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
I think that could end up happening. So it'll be
interesting to see how that part unfold. I just I
think that there is a possibility for that to happen,
and it could happen right in the AFC East.

Speaker 12 (47:12):
Well, the other thing I want to talk about is
the game that's upcoming to the Eagles, because we learned
very little from these pieces and we don't really know,
especially offense, what the Patriots will be. But they've made
a lot of moves and we're going to see if
those affect what they had deficiencies with last year. And

(47:35):
one of them is the mobile quarterback.

Speaker 11 (47:37):
So right the way, we get that test with Hurts.

Speaker 12 (47:39):
And if you remember back in two thousand and three,
the Patriots had Damian Fewart, who isn't you know, anywhere
near as good as Peyton Manning, but he was able
to mimic Manning well enough for the Patriots to win
that season. And Belichick paised him for that. So we're
going to see, you know, on the practice squad at
Cunningham could help the Patriots defense. And with that, I'm

(48:03):
thinking Mapu maybe spy times on the field when he's closer.

Speaker 9 (48:09):
To the box.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I love the I love the ability to spy someone,
especially if we've got the the you know, an athletic
quarterback who is as much a threat to run as
he is to throw. The Patriots don't seem to like
to do that, and they've tried it in the past.
They haven't done well with it. Whenever you think that
you're you're playing one of these, you know rpo you know,
geniuses at quarterback, and yeah, the Eagles have one. There's

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no doubt about that that, you know, this would be
the perfect thing to do. I'm not sure that anybody
wants to play their hand in that regard, even though
it might very well be that that's the case, that
there's going to be one guy out there that's sort
of spotting him, spying him, you know, just sticking by him,
putting a hit on him, whatever it may be, to
make sure that he doesn't burn you. When you have

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somebody as talented as Jalen Hurts Okay, and I thought
he was talented at all. I thought he got the
shaft at Alabama my own person's health, and then we saw,
you know, how well he could play at Oklahoma when
he transferred. I he is a definite MVP candidate and
he should be considered that because he's such a threat

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with you both talents. He's got a better arm than
people give him credit for, and his legs are as
strong as any quarterbacks I think we've seen maybe Ever So,
when you have that kind of a dual threat, I'd say,
you're not doing your job unless you have somebody somebody
who has an assignment on him. Period. But when you

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do that, you take away from other areas. And I'm
sure that would be Bill Belichick's explanation on that one.
You're taking away from other help that you might need.
So it's almost damned if you do, damned if you
don't kind of situation, which leads me to say that
it will probably be situation situation.

Speaker 12 (49:56):
Yeah, well it's not all the time, but it's definitely
going to be. I would think they need to do
that to win. But the other thing I think they
might have addressed and well, again, we're going to see everything.
This is a great test with this team because the
Eagles are are such a strong team. But you mentioned
it before with protecting the quarterback end. Yeah, having there,
and I think you're going to see more twenty two

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and aspects of two running backs and at the same
time with Zeke and Stevenson both there so you can
pass and run with the same personnel.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, yeah, I certainly think you'll see them like maybe
I would say every other series. If not, you know,
like you know, all right, one guy plays two downs,
the next guy gets two downs, the nextually get two downs.
I mean you'll see some kind of a rotation, I
would think. I mean that's why they went out and
got the guy. So you know, Remandre had a compliment

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and so you had help, you know, blocking in the
offensive backfield, and so you had a guy that you
know obviously knows how to you know, catch the football
a little bit. Saw. Thank you for the phone call,
because I want to ask kind of that of our
next guest here on the program, Dave Sparrow, who covers
the Eagles for Philodolph Eagles dot Com. He's at Eagles

(51:11):
Insider on X formerly known as Twitter to get that
one in. Dave John Rook here in Foxborough. How are
you today, Hi.

Speaker 11 (51:18):
John, Good afternoon. I'm doing fine things great, looking forward
to Sunday.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Absolutely. Hey, we got to get started with this thing, right,
Let's get in the summer times over time to get
down to business at hand. So what are your thoughts
on what we were just kind of talking about a
little bit there in terms of, you know, here's a
guy that Ezekiel Elliott, who the Eagles had faced twice
a year for as long as he's been in the league.
What are your thoughts on his worth to a team nowadays?

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That clearly he's not the running back he once was,
but his ability to block and and and and maybe
provide leadership and get you the tough yards and you know,
especially when it comes to Eagles front four, I mean,
how difficult the guy is he do to a sort
of play for? You think these days?

Speaker 11 (52:01):
Well, he's always done a really good job against the Eagles.
He's been very tough in the red zone, very tough
in the goal line, and I think in the right
situation he can be very productive. I mean, the Eagles
are a team that is at least at this point,
it looks like the Eagles goal with a committee approach
at the running back position. And I don't look at
Zeke as somebody who's carrying the ball twenty five times

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a game, but I certainly think he can be effective
in a role, and so I think the Eagles have
the utmost respect for the guy. And you know, Stevenson
and Elliott in the backfield sounds like a power running game.
And you know, it's very important to control the line
of scrimmage and give your quarterback manageable situations, and I

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think Elliott certainly helps Patriots do that.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Well. You know, I think it's almost universal. Almost everybody
I've read when it comes to talking about the Eagles
this year feels like the Eagles may have, you know,
the best roster, top to bottom of any team in
the NFL. You know, I'm certainly not going to argue
that point. I think it's extraordinarily deep roster, and the
front four is as talented, maybe as we've seen in

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recent years. Not blowing smoke up your skirt, I'm just
telling you, hey, look, seventy sacks kind of speaks for
itself last year, and I think the Patriots offensive line
undoubtedly will have more than just its hands full on Sunday.
What's been the Eagles secret to success? Is it strictly
on the man personality? Is it the way they run schemes?
And how will any of that change since there are

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different signal callers you know, you know coming from your
bench this year.

Speaker 11 (53:33):
Yeah, I mean the last part remains to be seen.
We really haven't seen obviously anything from Sean Decay in
the preseason. I suspect it'll be relatively similar to what
Jonathan Gannon did. Eagles until the second half of the
Super Bowl had a tremendous amount of success defensively last year. So,
but I think a lot of it's just they invest
in the draft, They invest at the line of scrimmage,

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on both sides.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
Of the ball.

Speaker 9 (53:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (53:56):
In free agency they invest. I mean they made a
great move a couple of years ago in free agency
going out and making Hassan Reddick a priority. He fit
in perfectly double digit sacks last year. He had sixteen
sacks All Pro Player recognition in the Pro Bowls. So
and then you keep adding, then you lose what's really
interesting to me. And I did a piece earlier in

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the spring about this the Eagles lose Javon Hargrave. I
think the highest contract in free agency went to Hardgrave,
who signed with the forty nine ers. And there's a
chance that this front will be better because they have
some young players developing, like Milton Williams and last year's
number one Jordan Davis. They go out and trade up
in round number one this year and get Jalen Carter

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and at Contavious three and just keep adding pieces and
winning with depth. And it's like hockey, bringing players over
the boards and keeping everybody in a rotation and keeping
everybody hungry fast off the football, and you know, aimed
at the quarterback. So they've hit on the draft, they've
free agency, They've developed very well, and they play an

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aggressive scheme.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
Yeah. Dave Beraro from Philadelphia Eagles dot Com at Eagles
Insider joining us here in the playbook. If you really
want to know, Dave, is the Eagles version of Paul Perillo?
Is that? Is that you think accurate? Dave?

Speaker 9 (55:17):
Well, I'm not quite.

Speaker 7 (55:18):
I hope.

Speaker 11 (55:18):
So, I mean I think Paul's great. I mean I
think that as a confidence, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, Well, Paul, Paul's ar kidding around here, we defer
all of the you know that stuff to him. So
I figured, well, you know, shoot, let's let's go that route.
Let's take that route because somebody's got to step up
into that role. How important, Dave is it that Philadelphia
figure out a way to get to the Patriots offense

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and get to their playmakers on offense early in this game?
Because I kind of think, look, we talked about this
in the opening hour without your regulars having really gotten
a lot of time in the preseason, and I know
a lot of that's overrated anyway, but let's say, you know, hey,
it would probably be a bit of a surprise or
an eyebrow raiser of the releast if you guys came
out clicking on all cylinders from the get go, just

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because there's gonna be some natural rust. I think that
has to be worn off a bit. So, you know,
is it important for this team to get off to
the fast start against the team that you know, man
for man probably shouldn't be step for step with the
team that you know has the Eagles talent on this roster.

Speaker 11 (56:28):
I think so, I mean, I look, I know it'll
be emotional up there with the Tom Brady ceremony. I
think the fans will be jacked up. And I understand
that the Patriots head it down year last year and
they've got a lot to prove. And I think defensively
for the Eagles, when I look at this defense and
I say, all right, they don't really know what the
Patriots are going to do, but maybe they do. They're

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very familiar with Bill O'Brien. They know that they want
to get the ball out of the quarterback's hands quickly.
The tight end will be heavily involved. They want to
run the football, they want to eat some call, they
want to keep Eagles on their heels. All of that
is important. See, this is a third straight season the
Eagles are starting on the road and Nick siriy Andy
has had a.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Lot of success.

Speaker 11 (57:10):
A win in Atlanta, a win in Detroit kind of
set the tone for the season. I expect the Eagles
to come out really aggressively offensively. I think that they
feel that they match up pretty well with the Patriots,
with all due respect to me a really good defensive
front that New England has, But the Eagles the offensive
line is as good as any of the league, and
the playmakers on the outside with Smith and Brown outstanding,

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Dallas Goddard at tight end, the multiplicity in the backfield
with Hurts and some really interesting talent traits in the backfield.
I mean, I think we're all just dying to see
what the team is going to be all about, if
it's what wrinkles they'll add. But yeah, for sure, when
you're on the road, man, you want to come out
strong and take it to them and not give a
team a feeling in the second half that it can

(57:54):
come back and win the game. So it's very important
for the Eagles to finish and rather to start strong, finish,
start fast, finished strong, and that's I think whatever every
team wants to do.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You guys have had some injury issues at wide out, No.

Speaker 11 (58:07):
Yeah, not really no. I mean the third receiver, Ques
Watkins has had a hamstring. But for them, you know,
coming out of camp in the preseason, AJ Brown's healthy,
Devonte Smith is healthy. Alamide Zechias has had a minor
injury that he suffered in the preseason game preseason second
preseason game, I believe, and so, but he's expected to play.

Speaker 7 (58:28):
I don't.

Speaker 11 (58:29):
I don't think there's really any knock on wood major
injury concerns for the Eagles coming into this game that
they manage things pretty well coming off of Super Bowl.
They really made sure to give the players time away
from the field, get their legs back, get their energy back.
Tough loss to the Chiefs emotionally, really put that game

(58:50):
behind them. I think the Eagles committed this game very
focused and ready to play a good football game.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
What do you think Nick Sirianni learned about that experience
last year, especially losing in the way that the team
did in Kansas City, and how that will affect how
will might it affect him as a head coach going
into the season.

Speaker 9 (59:09):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the.

Speaker 11 (59:09):
Eagles didn't play their their A game in that Super Bowl,
and that's a credit to the Chiefs certainly, but it's
also a learning experience for Jalen Hurston and company. You
can't fumble and have it returned four touchdowns. You can't
commit penalties. You can't score three points when you have
an opportunity to score seven. Your defense has to get
off the field. You cannot give up a big punt

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return that led to a touchdown. These are things that
you know the Eagles lament. They went into that game healthy,
golden opportunity to win their second Super Bowl in five
seasons came up short. And you know, I gotta tell you, John,
what they did was really interesting. And this is a
third super Bowl I've been to with the Eagles. They
reloaded the roster. They didn't they didn't take their foot

(59:51):
off the gas at all. They knew they had a
bunch of free agents that they could possibly lose. They
did lose some. There is change on the defense, but
they were able to retain James Bradberry and redo Darius
Slay's contract and keep Brandon Graham and keep Jason Kelcey
for another year, and add Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith

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in round number one, and those young guys get to
come in. They don't have to be stars right away,
but they're expected to be contributors. And when you have
that kind of depth, you know, you just look at
the seventeen game season and you say, we're pretty well
equipped to withstand what we know is coming. And there's
going to be some injuries. But the Eagles do have
some depths at most positions, But like every other team,

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there's some indispensible players and you just hope you get
through the season unscathe get to the postseason and really
play your best football. But it was a learning experience
for sure. You have to play a great game in
the Super Bowl to win it. Eagles didn't play a
great game and they came up three points short.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
And for a second there where you're talking about some
of those young guys coming on, I thought you were
going to list Superman and Batman in there too.

Speaker 11 (01:00:54):
It's right. Do you talk about the roster, I mean
you do look at the rush and you go, whoa,
there's some time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Here, That's what I mean. I looked at your two
d to then I'm like, I forgot that. I didn't
know that, you know, I'm like, wow, there's some players.

Speaker 11 (01:01:07):
Yeah, but there's also some questions. I mean, they have
two new safeties, They've only got three linebackers on the
active roster. There's two new starters there. The offensive line
has a new starter at right guard. The punter, it
appears at this point, will be Aaron Zippoff, who is
on the practice squad. So like every team, you know,
there's roster fluidity, there's question The first week or two

(01:01:29):
of the season always unpredictable, and the Eagles They're going
into a tough environment. The Patriots crowd is going to
be very, very excited for the day and for the
celebration and for the start of the season. And I
suspect to see Mac Jones and Bill Belichick get off
get off the season in the right way. And I
think it's really important from the Patriots standpoint that they

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Patriots start the season the right way after a tough
twenty twenty two seasons. So both teams have a lot
of great storylines and I really think it will be
a great, great football game. Of course, one of the
themes here is that the Eagles are going against Belichick
and what kind of wrenches is he going to throw
into the plan? And what kind of surprises will he
will he give the Eagles, and what will he do
to give devise to do to slow Daleen Hurts in

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his legs? All fascinating stuff. Can't wait for Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
All right, Then, a final question for you is what
I'm asking our fans today is to come up with
one bold prediction for the Patriots for twenty twenty three.
How about a bold prediction from you for the Eagles
for this season?

Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
Okay, my bold prediction is that the Eagles, for the
first time in the NFC East since two thousand and
three two thousand and four, will be a repeat winner
in the division. Okay, and it's a remarkable statistic, no
repeat winner in the NFC East since two thousand and three.
Two thousand and four. Eagles won it last year. History
says it's going to be really tough to do it
again this year. Dave Spenero says the Eagles will do

(01:02:53):
it again and get off that twenty year schneid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
God, I love it it. Just there's no sitting on
the fence with you. That's what I love about it.
That's great, fantastic. Hey, Dave, safe travels this way and
best of luck throughout the course of the season. I
look forward to visiting with you again at some point.

Speaker 11 (01:03:09):
My pleasure. Thanks for having me and should be a great,
great game. Can't wait for it to start on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Absolutely, good luck. It is Dave Sponaro again. You can
find him at Eagles Insider on x dot com or
whatever the hell it is Twitter, formerly known as Twitter
YadA YadA. But his stuff is good and like I said,
he's He's the Eagles version of Paul Parellos. So if
you really want to know, this is the guy that
you probably you got to read, you probably got to
get into. All right. So we're roughly fifteen ten minutes

(01:03:35):
away from Russell Baxter, who will join us here in
the program at eight five five, Pats five hundred, Patty
and aguam oh. He called in because I had his
email all ready to go. But Patty's right here on
the phone. Hi, Patty, what's up?

Speaker 9 (01:03:48):
John?

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
Hey?

Speaker 10 (01:03:48):
Part of the noise. I'm gonna view my phone when
I'm not talking, But can I get.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
You two bold prediction?

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Shoot? Go for it all right?

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
Number one mac Jones, we'll finish, we'll finish third and
the AFC and QB rating and number the second fold
prediction is Patriots go five and one in the division.
Whoa they split against Buffalo, They sweet Miami and the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Wow, all right, that's hmm bold. It might might be
a couple of other things too, but hey, guess what
if it happens, then you get the chance to come
on the show and crow about it.

Speaker 10 (01:04:29):
I love it, I'll do it.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
That's that's pretty good though. The mac Jones one third
in QB rating or top three in QB rating. Look,
there's a lot of competition in the AFC, and I
think we realized that, and for the Patriots to have
a successful season, Mac has to be an upper half quarterback.
I'll certainly give you that top three e. It depends

(01:04:52):
on the other guys and the other teams, but he's
got to be based on his performance alone and upper
half quarterback. And he can't be if the guys in
front of him cannot block, he can't be. There's no way.
So that would also be especially bold, I think coming
fromview not that I think Max's gonna fail. I actually
think this team is going to surprise. My first bold

(01:05:13):
prediction was this team makes the postseason, when you know
there are a lot of people that don't think that
will happen. But we mentioned this on last week's show,
on our preseason or offseason finale, that this I mean
this this team I think you know. I mean, what

(01:05:35):
was the over under? It was six and a half.
It started I think a bet MGM. It started out
at six and a half wins and it was up
at seven and a half last week, and that they
were still bet MGM was reporting that they were still
pounding the over on that bet at seven and a half.
So clearly there are a lot of people out there
that think that this Patriots team can make the postseason. Now,

(01:05:56):
of course, if you win that bet, eight wins isn't
going to get you into the post. But it just
sounds to me like there's a lot of optimism surrounding
this team, and I recognize that, and so I'm hoping
that a little bit of that rubs off on these guys.

Speaker 10 (01:06:09):
Yeah, and I just think that Mac mac is probably
one of the smartest quarterbacks in the league. The fact
that they that they got Billy O'Brien this year, I
think that's gonna be a fix.

Speaker 9 (01:06:19):
Pluz. I've said it all along on you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
I think the tandem epimin atoran Clem Will. I mean,
they will scheme things to uh, to make things happen,
especially in the first four weeks of the season, because
they're gonna be I mean, it's a murderers row of
defensive lines that they're going to be playing. And I
don't think they're You're going to see anything stupid like
Penn shot plays against these teams, you know, I think
they're going to try and get the ball out quick,

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be smart about it. Run some quick plans from RPOs.

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
You know all the stuff that was.

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
In Max Wheelhouse in Alabama, and a lot of the
the EP offense, you know, a lot of the foundational
East offense that that's predicated on winning over the middle
of the field. And Yeah, I think this team's gonna
win ten games. I think they could make the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (01:07:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
I'm sort of on the fence about that, but I
think I think you might need to win ten or
more and then ten. You're gonna need ten with a
tiebreaker to get the playoffs in the AFC this year.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
That might be the case. Yeah, that might be the case,
but I would tell you largely, you get to ten wins,
you're gonna be there. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:07:26):
And you got my prediction. You got my score prediction
for the week, so I won't I won't have to
stay it on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Well, see you said, you said, you said the Eagles
win twenty eight to twenty seven. Yeah, and Chad Ryland.
Chad Ryland misses a fifty plus yard field goal with
less than thirty seconds on the clock to lose it. Yeah,
aren't you a rolling ball of butcher knives?

Speaker 10 (01:07:53):
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't know. I think
I think. I think this team is going to surprise
a lot of people, and I think I think it's
it's gonna start Week one, and I think they'll carry
that momentum out throughout the season, and I think they're
gonna have a good year. You know, fingers crossed, of course,
but objectively speaking too, I think you look at last
year's team. I know the schedules tougher this year, but

(01:08:15):
if that team can win eight games with a real
good defense and a crap show on offense, I mean,
I think Bill O'Brien and just a working, functioning NFL offense, Yeah,
and can garner them two more with this year? And
that's all I got DOWNNY.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Let's hope that that is the case. I appreciate you, Patty,
thank you. We hit a couple of emails here real quick.
Brian in North Bay, California, Welcome back for another season, Jr.
Easy bolt prediction here Patriots will beat the Eagles twenty
nine to twenty one. As Tom roots for the team
on and keeps the crowd in a fervor heading into
the draft, I didn't bother looking at Christian Gonzales because
I heard pundit after pundit say he was number one

(01:08:53):
on their big board including reporters and callers in pre
drafted this very playbook. Now that Gonzales fell in his
own on the team, let's get excited. The secondary is
a secondary no more than the shout out to Eldred
there and can't wait to watch a leap in ball
hawking from Marcus Jones out of the defensive slot. Excited
for the rookie receivers to get early looks. O'Brian keeps

(01:09:14):
the veterans fresh for the playoff push. Big fan of
adding Keon White and Zeke Elliott. Looking for a monster
year out of Kyle Duggar. Thank you, Brian, appreciate that
our buddy Howard and Stratford, Connecticut. Let's see glad to
have you back for another season of the playbook And
Patriots football. Oh guys are lucky and sounding great. Well, okay,

(01:09:37):
there we go, hey looking at me like that. You
are here on drugs. Can't wait for the Thursday night
football tomorrow. And here's hoping the Lions are for real
and they beat the Chiefs. As for the Patriots, I
know very few people are going to give them a
chance against the reigning NFC champs. But I think the

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Pats are improved, especially on d and although they will
not shut down the Eagles, zho, they're gonna slow it down.
And he says his key in this game is that
the patso needs to stay on the field, sustain drives,
and allow the Deed to rest so they are fresh
come the fourth quarter. If the Oak can do that,
I believe the improved OA can score enough points to
win the game thirty to twenty eight on a walk

(01:10:19):
off field goal by the rookie kicker Chad Ryland. So
we got one who says he's gonna blow a fifty
yarder at the end to lose it, and another says
he's gonna hit a fifty yarder at the end to
win it. Why do I think we're gonna miss Nick
Folk at some point? I just saying, just saying. I

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have nothing against Chad Ryland. I know he's got a
cannon for a leg. I'm anxious to see him as
just about anybody. But when you're in close games, your
kicker makes the diff The guy you had is as
reliable from inside of fifty yards as anybody in the NFL.

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And now he's kicking for Tennessee. So I'm just gonna
kind of leave it right there with that one. Nancy Vermiaha, John,
have you missed me? I started a new career. I
haven't been able to listen, but I am back and
love the new broadcast. I will try to listen more often.
I miss the fun conversations, regular callers, everything. I haven't
read or followed the team very much this offseason. My
bold prediction is the Patriots will be second in the

(01:11:24):
division and make the playoffs. I like the prediction, Nancy.
What needs to happen. The offensive line needs to step
up big time. If you're taking scores for a yearbook,
I will never receive my prediction. Patriots win twenty three twenty.
I think that was a shot. Marine, I think that
was a shot still make the playbooks. I think that

(01:11:46):
was definitely a shot. Nelson in La Hey Nelson, you're
in the playbook.

Speaker 9 (01:11:51):
Hey, how are you doing today? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
What's happening? Good goods? Everything's great, everything's great. We're ready
for football. What about you?

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
I'm excited. I'm excited, all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Right, So tell me why you're excited.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
My position is we're gonna win thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
One to twenty eight, last second field goal, yes, sir, nice, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:12:14):
And then the question.

Speaker 10 (01:12:17):
That you asked, yeah, the one that you said, I
don't know what's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
A bold prediction? What do you think will happen with
the Patriots this year?

Speaker 9 (01:12:25):
My boat position is we're not in the Kansas City
or the ASC Championship and we go.

Speaker 8 (01:12:29):
Out to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
Bearment, Nelson, you're all right, You're all right. Way to
have that enthusiasm.

Speaker 9 (01:12:39):
I'm excited a new era and we're gonna be.

Speaker 11 (01:12:42):
Out there winning games.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
Okay, all right, last year we were all man. Yeah,
well we know that that's true. Just as long as you
don't have a repeat of that, I'll be all good
with it.

Speaker 7 (01:12:51):
I can't hear you and one long from all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
You all out there, man, Okay, okay. I appreciate you, Nelson,
and thanks for listening. It's always good to have that.
We got a little bit more to get to, But
first I want to sort of reintroduce before we play
his show. Open here a gentleman who I've known for
a long time, and our time goes back to our

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time together at ESPN Radio. Back well, before before we
hit the two thousands, predating the millennium. We're going back
over twenty years now, but he's been a relatively regular,
if not regular, part of this show since the first
year we started, which was two thousand and one. Year

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twenty three now the Patriots Playbook, Real woman could stop
you from drinking.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
That's a real big woman.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
It's time to go around the NFL with football guru
Russell Baxter.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Now what my name is? Flounder on Patriots Playbook? Hey Flounder,
what's happening?

Speaker 9 (01:13:58):
What was when?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Uh oh, there goes the phone? Son of a gun?
Would you I'm gonna I'm gonna put it, hold on,
I'm gonna play it. Claire's day conversation with him. Wow,
is that amazing? I know, I know because I heard
you tell I saw you talking to him and then
all of a sudden bang. So you want to try
to pick him up on your end and see if
it comes back. Yeah, just because you know, I don't

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want to waste any good stuff with Russell. We don't
want to do that. The background on Russell is he
was For those that don't know. If you're wondering who
the heck is this Russell, Baxter.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Russell was the guy in the ear of Chris Berman
and Tom Jackson during NFL Sunday Countdown and basically feeding
them all the info that they had on the air,
which really helped make that program work for decades at ESPN.
And he sends matriculated onto doing his own thing now
and covering the National Football League. Let's try him. Now,

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are you there, buddy, I'm here. Oh there you are. Okay.
I don't know what happened. You said the first two
words out of your mouth and all of a sudden, Okay,
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
I was talking to you and then all of a sudden,
Boomer and Tommy, you were asking me questions.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Do they still ask you questions today?

Speaker 9 (01:15:16):
Well, we talk on different levels. I actually talked with
christ a couple of days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And great one good And then listen.

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
Those are they're family members?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah? Right for life? Okay, right of course.

Speaker 7 (01:15:34):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:15:34):
You know what, there's a reason you hear the words
uncle Boomer in my house?

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
Hey, and you had you had another family member decide
to step aside. This week with the retiring of mister
Mortenson from covering the NFL actively on ESPN.

Speaker 9 (01:15:52):
You know, I was, I was hoping you'd ask me
about more because and you're gonna have to bear with
me because when I found out yesterday, he's one of
the kindest and actually one of the funniest human beings
that ever met by life. Always such perspective, such professionalism,

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and I'm not even doing them justice and stuff, but
you know, the the what he brought to our meetings, Uh,
it was more than just information, you know, it was
the love, the respect for you know, what he did
and so on, and you know, he's one of those
people I really miss. I got to see him at
the Hall of Fame a couple of years ago. He

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made me laugh. He always makes you laugh and so
and you know, he's uh, you know, I posted I
posted a picture of that we took at the Hall
of Fame three or four years ago. He's uh, he was.
He was a pivotal part of the business. And you know,
you know before the before that, you know, John, before

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this day of cell phones okay, which I'm dating myself,
you know not you know, listen, I'm not talking you know,
wireless communication and ticker tape or anything like that. But
you know, I can remember being in the studios when
we used to do the Monday night show, which was
actually called NFL Prime Monday if you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Remember sure originally yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:17:17):
Started in nineteen ninety three. It was kind of like
in a trailer outside the main complex and so on.
That was the step we used, and and then we
moved inside, you know, with you know, running water and
all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Yeah, they invited you in the building.

Speaker 9 (01:17:32):
Yeah, but I can remember many an instance where again
before cell phones and more than the studio being paged
that you have a call, and you know, it was
a who's who who people who were calling more. Yeah, okay, right,
So he commanded that much respect. He still commands that

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much respect. And I know he'll I hear from him
on Twitter and every once in a while I'll get
a nice little message and so on. But what he
did for ESPN in terms of credibility, he can't be topped.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
And I was, well, he was the original insider Russell.
I mean, he was Adam Schefter before Adam Schefter was
Adam Schefter.

Speaker 9 (01:18:15):
I think in some ways Adam can considers him a mentor.
You know, those are my words on essay, But I
think if you read anything that Adam wrote yesterday on Twitter. Yea,
you know they worked tied by side the last couple
of couple of years. Adam was at the NFL Network
and came over and joined us, and yeah, it's, uh,

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you know, communication is so much different now and so on,
but just what more brought to ESPN and to me
personally as a human being can't be replaced and won't
be replaced, because he'll be he'll be around for a
long time and he'll still be making us laugh. And
you know, the perspective he has with you know, with

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players around the league, and the respect he has are
in the league and so on. You know, that's something
you learn over time, and that's something still never ever right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
So yeah, it was always so much fun when I
was doing regular radio stance in Bristol. Uh, it was
we always look forward to having an NFL segment and
whether it was you or Mart or whomever else was
doing it at the time, Susie Cobra a lot. That
was always a lot of fun. We got energized and
charged up because they were energized. They were charged up

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and they knew so we knew we were about to
get an education and Moret was the one that always
kind of led the way we were there.

Speaker 9 (01:19:38):
You know, I was talking to Tommy about this not
too long, but we were there at such a magical time.
And I'm not saying that the disparage what goes on
there now it's a different network. I understand that, and
so I'm long moved in there. I've been going a
dozen years. I'm not a person to go back and say, well,
this is that, this and bat, but we happened to be.
I think what was fortunate for us is when ESPN

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got the NFL contract in nineteen eighty seven and they
started doing Sunday night games. NFL Draft was already on ESPN,
and it was originally on ESPN, and then slowly but surely,
you know, it became the Sunday night game. And then,
of course I was very, very lucky. You were alluded
to it of doing NFL Prime time in the studio

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with Chris and Tommy, which I did in the studio
part of it for seventeen years. Yeah, never missed the show.
Why would you and the beauty watching those two guys,
especially John and you'll understand, especially doing the late highlights,
Oh yeah, because we would sit in what we'd call
the war room, watch the game, and you know, you

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could pay admission watching the games in there with Chris.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I believe that. I believe that, Hey, did he ever
use his calls? Well, you guys were watching all those games,
he could go all the way. Did you ever say that.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
Chris would allude to stuff and so on? And you
know the banter that went on because these guys, you know,
everybody knew each other so well and so on, and
so I'll just take you through a typical day as
we got you got ready for the show. You know,
roughly about six o'clock, the production assistants would come up

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with their highlight packages and what we'd call shot sheets,
and they would go, oh, we're and you know, produce
whoever was producing the show would lay out the order
doing then the beauty. When we had the NFL contract,
I was there was we could show thirty seconds of
a game, we could show nine minutes of a game.
You weren't limited. It depended on how the game unfolded.

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We want to pretty much show you all all ninety
three points, so you've never got short changed in that regard.
But again I used the beauty again it was the
late games, John, when the production assistance would come into
the set and hand Tommy and Boomery the shot sheets. Now,
we had been watching the games, but we didn't know

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necessarily what was on the highlight and you would never
be able to You could never tell that after watching
these guys do what they did, and they just played
off each other and the chemistry was unrilled between the
two of them. And you know, as many people know
that that that that means studio at ESPN is name
named after Chris Bernman and Tom Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
That doesn't shock me at all.

Speaker 9 (01:22:32):
Well, I mean it was you know set Deon said
he built the Georgia Dome, Right, Yeah, Chris and Tommy
built that built.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
That room, no question. By the way, I'm going to
digress here before we get to the games this week.
What are the impressions of UH coach Prime in his
debut at Colorado and what he's done in such a
short amount of time.

Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
Well, I mean I'm watching the I watched most of
the first half UH the other day and it was
hard to believe. And I don't watch a lot of
college football, but it was almost hard to believe that TCU.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Was the favorite guy, and I was listen, I kind
of knew. I knew going in TC is gonna have
a hard time for a couple of reasons. Number one,
the hype behind Dion. Number two, when he's had a
chip on his shoulder, he always came through as a player,
I mean always, That's that's why he was who he was.
And number three, they lost half their damn roster from
last year, so I wasn't sure they would get upset,

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but I certainly knew it was gonna be a good game,
and we that that certainly happened.

Speaker 9 (01:23:37):
And since we're in name dropping territory here, I had
an opportunity to work with Dion Standers on Thursday Night
Football in twenty fifteen. Yeah, so I got I got
to know Dion a little and so and he wasn't
coaching any of us where he had a coach there
named Bill Kawers, So you know, I got to know
him a little a little bit personally and so on

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that fire in his belly, and you know, watching this
and I think you know people with Dion Standers because
he is very brash and outspoken and confident and so on,
you know. And and that was in full display when
he went in the Hall of Fame as well. I
think people have mixed opinions about him and so on.

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You can't deny the talent.

Speaker 7 (01:24:20):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (01:24:20):
And now he suddenly, uh you know, turns out to
be one hell of a coach. And again it's one game. Okay,
so it's one game. But it was very impressive. It
was it was not so much that they won, it
was it was the poise in which they.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Were his son and exactly his son is is is
a is an outstanding.

Speaker 9 (01:24:42):
Athlete, right And watching, like I said, watching that contest,
you know, I think people somehow got the impression because
he had overhauled the team roster and so on, and
he was going in here as his first game as
they head coached, that he was going to be ill. Yeah.
And uh, you know again, if on face value, if

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you didn't know anything about Colorado and you see you,
you would have sworn Colorado with a much better football thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, without a doubt. All right, let's talk about the
football teams in front of us for Week one in
the NFL season. I gotta admit I think there's a
lot of anticipation, more so on the Lion's part. Than
the Chiefs part tonight or I should say tomorrow night.
Keep thinking this is Thursday. You know, Hey, these.

Speaker 9 (01:25:31):
Days these three or four times in the next.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Yeah, these date changes kill me. I mean we for
twenty years? How many years? This is your twenty three?
I think? Were we Thursdays primarily on this show? We
did that once upon a time. We did three days
a week, but you always came on with us on Thursdays.
And then when I started teaching a few years ago,
we had to cut it back to two. And now
because my teaching schedule has picked up, it's one day

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a week, but it's always been Thursdays. This year we
moved to Wednesday's for the first time in twenty years.

Speaker 9 (01:26:00):
Soon, which is why I want to go Wednesday. I
wanted to do Wednesday, Adams, because there is no Thursday at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
Him a bottom. I like that. I like it. It
works for me. The uh, the anticipation for Thursday's game,
I think is all about the Lions as opposed to
the Chiefs. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 9 (01:26:20):
Well, I agree, I mean, you know, this is the
second time in four years at Kansas City's opening the
season as defendive Super Bowl champions We pretty much know
them and have gotten to know them. I mean, they
have been in the playoffs eight years in the row.
They've been the UH three of the last four super Bowls,
won a couple of titles. You know, we've got I

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know this. We've gotten to know Arrawhead Stadium pretty well
because every playoff game they've played, except for the Super
Bowl has been in Arrawhead Stadium. With Patrick Mahomes, they
have He hasn't played a Roade playoff game yet. So
I think we know this team. Obviously a lot of
national exposure and for all the right reasons, Andy Reid's
and Andy Reid is the longest tenured head coach in

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the league, just not with the same team. Andy's first
year head coach was nineteen ninety nine with the Eagle,
one year before Bill Belichick, right little in resting factor.
So we've gotten to know them. What do we know
about the Lions? Well, we know the last time the
Lions won a playoff game was eight years before Andy

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Reid became a head coach of the Eagle. That was
nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:27:29):
Well, the last time they won a division title was
nineteen ninety three. It was called the NFC Santral not
the NFC Wars, and there were five teams in that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Division the NFC Norris right.

Speaker 9 (01:27:42):
And thank you very much, be going to Boomer, yep.
And the last time the Lions won a title, and
by the way, they won four NFL titles in their
proud history, was nineteen fifty seven, which is two years
before I was born, all right, and I just turned
sixty four a couple of days ago, So he's the

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maths on that one. So we don't know much but
the years. What we know about the current Lions, we
know that they were fit in the league and scoring
last year, John, their defense played better at the end
of the year one time last year they were one
and six. They won eight of their last ten games.
So they knocked the Packers out of the playoffs in

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the final Sunday night game of the year, and they
did it at lambeau Field. Dan Campbell was obviously drawn
a lot of attention I think his first year there
because of some of the wacky things he was saying,
and apparently it is paying off for that franchise. Now
they obviously want to take the next step and obviously,

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winning a game against the defending Super Bowl champions on
open night would be pretty herculean. Now I've lotched the
numbers here, because Patrick Mahomes usually comes out with a
bang that the chiefs of one eight eight season openers.
He's been the starting quarterback in the last five john

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All he's on his throne. Eighteen touchdown passes and zero
interceptions in those five games.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
I gotta admit, I mean, you know, it'd be pretty
hard not to root for that if you're going to
root for somebody in this particular instance, because look, I
don't root for teams per se, I kind of root
for stories. Maybe that's just the reporter, the journalist, the
you know, you know, the media type in me, because
better stories just make for more interests. As far as
I'm concerned all the way around, if anybody's gonna come

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close to what Tom Brady has done in his career,
I've been of the opinion for pretty much the last
year or so that Patrick Mahomes could be that guy.
When does that chatter continue to kick up? When does
you know? And does it? Does it? Does it take
on a life of itself? If Kansasity finds himself back

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in the Super Bowl again, this year.

Speaker 9 (01:30:02):
Well, yeah, because it takes on the life of its own,
because it becomes uh in some ways, there are so
many people out there who want somebody to be the
next goat, right, right, right, and because God knows we
need a goat, you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Know, today's coach.

Speaker 9 (01:30:24):
We must live on a farm. You know, there's got
somebody has to be the greatest of all time. And
for people who maybe I don't think Tom Brady was
the coat. Okay. And by the way, it's so it's
such a ridiculous concept because it's all matter in any way,
and so on. You know, you see this this young

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man come in and honestly do some things that we
haven't seen done. I mean, last year Patrick Mahomes became
the first quarterback in the Super Bowl era, and we
need the NFL and tasting yards and win the Super
Bowl the same year. Now that's not a small tag.
That's fifty seven years okay. So, I mean, he had

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a lot to do with it. And I found it
so ironic that in the Super Bowl, in which he
was named Super Bowl MVP. And don't get me wrong,
you play the hell of the game, the guy who
threw for over five thousand yards didn't even throw for
two hundred yards in the Super Bowl. You know, I
felt that they won that Super Bowl in the second
half by running the football against an Eagles defense that

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was tied for sixteenth in the league against the run. Yep,
you know. It's as you know, and this is an
unequivocal fact, it is impossible to sack the quarterback when
the running back had football.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah, that's also true. That's a stat that won't appear right.

Speaker 9 (01:31:47):
Think about this, John, The team that had seventy sacks
during the regular season, yeah, and eight or nine more
against the Giants, and the forty nine Ers in playoffs
had no sacks in Super Bowl fifty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Yeah. That's nuts. That's nuts. Yeah, that's crazy. The lineup
this weekend seeming to be obviously pretty spread out. Evenly,
everybody's playing the first one. I think there are a
couple of intriguing matchups, like the forty nine Ers playing
at the Steelers. I would say the Cowboys playing at

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the Giants, which is the Sunday night game. But to me,
the two games other than the Patriots and Eagles that
I think I might be most interested in Dolphins at
Chargers Sunday afternoon, which goes up against the Eagles Patriots game,
and then Monday night bills at the Jets kind of
anxious to see how Aaron Rodgers is going to look.

Speaker 9 (01:32:40):
Well, I'm just I was just wrapping up my food
first thought for full press coverage and of course my
five key statistics, which we'll see over in the next
twenty four hours. Ago mine always grateful that Eing Glendon
gives me a chance to write that for full press coverage, right,
And I was making the point that do you think

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that Jets, Now think about this for a second. Many
consider Aaron Rodgers last year, coming off a down season. Okay, now,
he threw twelve interceptions, don't get me wrong, that's very
high for him. Okay, he's not a double digit interception guy.
He only threw twenty six touchdown passes. Now that's an
August total as well. But when you consider the Jets

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offense in general score twenty eight touchdowns in seventeen games,
I'm going to take a leap of faith and thinks
Aaron Rodgers is going to have somewhat of an impact
on this offense. Now, what's also going to be interesting
about this game is it's his first game. As with
the Jets, it's his first game versus an AFC East opponent,

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but not necessarily because remember last year, the Packers played
the AFC East in the interconference round. They played Buffalo,
they played New England, they played the Jets, and they
played So it's not like he's going to see anything
that shocked him Monday night. He might be more shocked

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at by some of the other teams in the conference
that he might not have been played in recent years. Okay,
certainly not the the interconference games the Jets have to play,
et cetera. So it's not a bad way. And also
keep mile a year ago the Jets before they got
you know, fell into that season ending six game losing streak,

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they beat the Bills at eight at eighteen women that life,
what is it meant? Life?

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
Okay, so they beat the Bills in Josh, So this
is very it's very intriguing for a lot of different
reasons because you also consider the Bills off season. Now
you know, I'm not inside the building, and a lot
has been made about Stefan Day and Josh Allen's relationship
and it seems like everything's okay or and when I

(01:35:05):
hear that stuff. I have this flashback and you know
where I'm going here, flashback to the early nineties with
Mark Levy and the Remember the Bickering Bills.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
Love that team. I love those teams.

Speaker 9 (01:35:17):
Yeah, and the Bickering Bills. He called them out. It
was they were playing the Dolphins in Week two down
in Miami and they got obliterated. And that was the
Bickering Bill. And that was also the start of the
four straight Super Bowl appearance. And I'm not saying the
Bills are going to the super Bowl, but this is
interesting we have. It's funny because hack the slate this week,

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in Week one is divisional games and you know we
usually see all those divisional games in Week seventeen or
Week eighteen as it is now, but half the league
is indivisional games to start off the season, and that
they can be very, very big tone setters because as
you know, in special in this this league now where

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you can go from last to first or last to
a playoff spot, real real quickly. We saw four times
last year a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Lot yep, yep.

Speaker 9 (01:36:11):
I'll be interesting to see if the j Justs and
Giants can hold serve. Now, you know you mentioned the Giants.
By the way, I have to throw out this number,
and if you're the Giants, you got to throw up
last year even though they were nine seven to one
and Brian Dable with NFL the Coach of the Year
and the Giants won a playoff game for the first
time since they beat the Patriots in Super Bowl forty six.

(01:36:34):
The Giants within the division last year, John.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
In the one, that's nuts and they still made the playoffs.
That's crazy. That yeah, that's insane.

Speaker 9 (01:36:44):
Three of the losses obviously, Tod Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Well that that kind of leads me to the next
thing I was going to ask you because, in all honesty,
you wrote about it, you know, earlier this week on
full press coverage, but talking about a division that could
potentially see all of its members reached the postseason, and
I know you thought that the NFC East would be
the likely candidate for this year, but I'm wonnering. Really,

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what's keeping the AFC East from joining that party?

Speaker 9 (01:37:12):
Well, you know, actually, besides the NFC East, I also
pushed with the AFC North. You know, that's a division
at three the free playoff teams last year, but Pittsburgh
finished strong, Cincinnati and Baltimore. Men. Ye, and I find
this year the Browns to be very intriguing me, not
because of the Sean Watson and not because it Keptain

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is the fancy. And here's a name you know pretty
well because he had a lot to do with the Eagles,
winner of the Patriots in Super Bowl fifty two, and
that's Jim Schwood, who is now the new defensive coordinator
for the brown And they went out and gotten to
Darius Smith to Pale with milesartt Hair with Miles Garrett,
Tomlinson up the middle, Shelby Harris up the middle. I'm

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just curious about that, Ran Steep. And the AFC North
was really interesting last year, John, every team in the division,
all four went three and three in the division. But
you bring up a good point about the AFC East.
And by the way, speaking of AFC East, and it
was a different AFC East. The AFC East is the
last division to put four teams in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
And stay there there you go.

Speaker 9 (01:38:20):
Now, remember it's nineteen ninety eight and those will be
years of the AFC East with five.

Speaker 1 (01:38:25):
Divisions, right, I mean five teams. Yes, the Colts were
in the division, yes, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:38:31):
And the Colts went three and thirteen. Yeah, but the
other four teams all made it, all went into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
Yep, yeah, I'm I think all four teams have a
legit shot this year. And it would not surprise me, Russell,
as you just kind of talked about, wouldn't surprise me
to see the AFC East going three and three. Everybody
in the division. I know some people who are you
know that no Buffalo well or thinking that's just heresy,
it's not going to happen. I could see it happen.

Speaker 9 (01:38:59):
Well, I guess see. It happened. They were born to
in the division last year.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
Exactly. You've got to pick them off once. If you
can pick them off once, everybody's gonna end up three
and three.

Speaker 9 (01:39:09):
Listen, holding served in the division is very important when
you come down to those type breakers and so on.
And I know Buffalo won the division. I know they
played one less game them in Cincinnati because obviously more
hamling circumstances and so on. But again, they were still
forward to in the division. They lost the Jests, they
lost at Miami for the first time in a bit,

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or lost to the Dolphins is the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
In a bit.

Speaker 9 (01:39:33):
So the year before. Yeah, so you know it is
it is getting somewhat harder to dominate your division. As
far as the clean season. The Chiefs did it obviously
last year. The forty nine Ers did it last year.

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But you know, if you look at the improvement and
maybe some of the slippage a little by San Francisco,
I mean, they're gonna you know, doesn't look like Nick
Bose is gonna be around at least one right for
the Chiefs. Doesn't look like Chris Jones is gonna be
around tomorrow night. So and we don't know about Travis
Telson so on. So it's a league. Things can change very,

(01:40:18):
very dramatically, and you know, there's been nothing more evident
than the fact that And think about this, John for
people who in fact this you know me one of
my least favorite things when it comes to NFL analysted,
is the season ended today?

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Yeah? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
Okay, if you want the season end today, go follow
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
I thought that wouldn't have been my choice either.

Speaker 9 (01:40:43):
But think about this for a while and think about
regardless of what the Tea's record were at the time, Okay,
Jets seven and four and lost their last six games.
The Titans were seven and three and lost their last
moving game.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:41:01):
The Chiefs lost, I'm sorry, the Coast Laws their last
seven games last year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 9 (01:41:07):
The Cardinals lost their last seven games last year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:09):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (01:41:11):
The Bears lost their last ten games.

Speaker 7 (01:41:13):
Wow, last year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
That's nuts.

Speaker 9 (01:41:16):
And meanwhile, while you're kissing off certain people, Jacksonville goes
from four and eight to nine in eight and wins
the division.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (01:41:24):
Okay, So I mean, you know, maybe maybe you know
who they should get out to instead of carry Underwood,
they should get Ray Stevens to do the Sunday night
opening and that way he can sing. Why they call
it the street, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
The streak. That's exactly right, because it's going to take
something like that, I think again this year.

Speaker 9 (01:41:42):
Well, I mean maybe getting hot at the right time.
There's a lot because it certainly him. It certainly happened
with Tampa Bay in twenty twenty, and to a degree,
it happened with the Rains a couple of years ago. Right,
I mean he listen, the Chiefs will talk for the
best record at the NFL last year. Ye, I'm not gonna,
you know, not go on that stretching.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:42:02):
We saw that, you know, what looked like teams in
solid positions completely collapsed at the end of the year.
And I think Tennessee, you would have to say, Tennessee
maybe the most surprising of them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
One, probably, So my friend's good to have you back again.
Thank you for making some time for us on Wednesdays
this year, and I look forward to our our visit
as often as you can make it on Wednesday. So
thank you for clearing your schedule for us and being
with us a wee can talk a little football.

Speaker 9 (01:42:29):
I've already I've already put in my Google calendar. Then
I'm good until six of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Week six twenty twenty six. All right, well you may
be then working beyond my expiration date.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
Listen, do you have you have enough callers? I'm sure
I can find somebody who can fill in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Uh yeah, I'm no doubt about that.

Speaker 9 (01:42:53):
Melvin.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
Actually Melvin didn't call in today, but but Eldred did.
Eldred's hanging on so we can hear you. There you go,
you want to you want to say hello to Eldred? Absolutely, Okay,
hold on just a second, Eldred say hello to uh
Russell Baxter because he wants to say hello to you.

Speaker 7 (01:43:13):
Hello, mister guru, mister legend. Hey y'all doing I'm good
for you. I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 9 (01:43:21):
Just what's your prediction for the year? What do you think.

Speaker 7 (01:43:28):
My audition for the year? Yep, I'm even.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Seven May.

Speaker 9 (01:43:37):
Didn't ask you where you were getting a slurpy? I
asked you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Wow. Wow, that's pretty quick for a sixty four year
old brain right there. That's pretty quick. That's impressive.

Speaker 7 (01:43:58):
Predictions. Well, I'm I got I'm hoping it would go
to the playoffs. But Jday's Wilfon thing, Jasie, you guess, yeah,
they played the game first, and that I can do Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:44:11):
You know, I mean the Sunday against against Philadelphia and uh,
you know, can they the kid I'm gonna be watching
I'm in Philadelphia's Jalen Carter because if he, if he
can help the Eagles stop the run, and they were
very mediocre against the run, that changes the face of
that team dramatically. Remember they lost Javon hard Grave in

(01:44:35):
the free agency to the forty nine ers, and that
leads a big hole up the middle. And Carter and
you know, with this little controversy, you know, off the field,
et cetera, et cetera. The Eagles made their move and
Howie Roseman does. I don't think it's enough credit for
what he's done with that organization over the last five
or six years and so on. So that's the kid
I'm gonna be watching on Sunday. But it should be

(01:44:57):
a really interesting game on Sunday up in Foxborough because
you never know what you're gonna get with week one,
and we certainly have seen our share of surprise.

Speaker 7 (01:45:08):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:45:12):
And did you go for the blue Raspberry or.

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Blue Raspberry? I believe I think the blue Raspberry slurpy
at seven to eleven was known as a gully washer.

Speaker 7 (01:45:25):
I like the cherry ones. I like the cherry ones.

Speaker 9 (01:45:30):
Go for the hot dog cherry one.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
That's also true. Wait, Russell, did you say you go
for the hot dogs?

Speaker 9 (01:45:38):
Oh? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
Oh my god. I can't believe we are another brother
from another mother, because that's all I do. You know,
I go to the convenience story. Miss Robin kills me
when I want a hot dog in there, but they
look so damn good in there, I gotta get one.
I was.

Speaker 9 (01:45:53):
I was a shameless plug. I was Cumberland Farms this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Yes, yes, some parking lot.

Speaker 9 (01:46:02):
I just pulled into the parking lot and out came
this really nice lady hot dogs loaded to the gills.
Stop and I said to him, I said, wow, that
looks really good. I said, now I want a hot
dog exactly, and she said, yeah, she looks good. I said,
in fact, how bout if I have yours of wine,
you go in and get another.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
One, right right, because that way you wouldn't have to
pay regular price. If you're getting one, you can get
two for four dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:46:30):
That's exactly right. And I know that woman. I know
that woman will never see me again as the longs
I live, and I know she thinks sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
I absolutely love that Russell, my friend, is great to
visit with you. Look forward to visioning with you again
next week.

Speaker 9 (01:46:46):
And just remember what the topic will be next week.
Next week we will talk about the sixteen teams that
their fans think will go undefeated and the sixteen teams
where their fans will be saying they're getting the number
one thick in the draft.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
Exactly because we like to overreact after the first week
of a seventeen week schedule absolutely, Russell you the man.
Thank you brother, all right, see you guys, you got it. So,
Guru Eldred, what did you What did you want to
talk about today if we didn't already hit that, because
I'm gonna give you the final word in the show today.

(01:47:21):
How do you like that?

Speaker 7 (01:47:23):
Thank you?

Speaker 8 (01:47:24):
Well?

Speaker 7 (01:47:24):
I think I appreciate that, mister legend. The game today,
game Sunday. I got my towel out and my popcorn,
the towel to cry in so that that team challenge
from top to bottom. You heard the guy that covered
the team right, Yeah, top to bottom. Hit on the
draft pick and even the guys in free agent. Yeah,

(01:47:44):
something that our GM don't do.

Speaker 9 (01:47:46):
Yeah, so they sat.

Speaker 7 (01:47:49):
So I'm thinking I won't. I will hope you put
a twenty points. But to me, that's just a Christmas wish.
I think they roll because they got something to prove
from last thirty five seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
Yeah. And you know, if you're you know, if you're
trying to think of this thing with a clear mind,
you know, and not you know, and not for one
side or the other, I can see where you would
easily make that choice. I personally think right now that
you know the Patriots will figure out a way to

(01:48:23):
keep it close for that first half until the Eagles
figure out a way to shake off the rust and
probably put pedal to medal in the second half. So
I'm going to take the Eagles twenty four to twenty
in that one. But but and the reason I'm going
to do that is because I think the Patriots defense
is going to keep them honest and in the game
for most of the game, and they should if they

(01:48:44):
can take advantage of mistakes. Look, injuries happen, we know.
But the one thing that I'm really concerned about the
most in weak one is self inflicted injuries by way
of penalty, because we know the offensive line had such
a hard time a year ago playing together and and
it was just it was an abomination, is what it was.
Was like they didn't know what the word discipline meant.

(01:49:06):
And clearly we could see that happen with a defensive
front like Philadelphia has in front of them on Sunday.
And so if we're revisiting that very thing this next week,
no one can say, well, told you so, because we
talked about it, and it is liable. It's certainly liable
to happen. I'm going to give the Patriots the benefit
of it out until I see otherwise. That's really all

(01:49:28):
I'm doing here. And if it's twenty four to twenty
and they have an opportunity with the ball late in
the game, then hey, that's all. That's really all you
can ask for. But but but the smart money is, yeah,
the smart money is probably on the Eagles winning going away.

Speaker 7 (01:49:43):
Yeah, they can rotate, they got fo D you know,
they got a guy for each guy on that front
line they can play. Yeah, you know that's yeah, right,
and outline that is what I'm worried about, mainly if
mac wa have time to set up throw even due

(01:50:03):
to Luke Quick. Yeah, I'm just wondering, right, you know.
But uh, everybody they're talking about we got guns dollar.
He's a number, you like, Well, he's a rookie, y'all
got to give him least eight to nine games. Gilmour
at eight games before he came out, before he got better,
So you got. So he's a rookie, you got he's
getting eight to nine because he ain't gonna be out

(01:50:24):
there smothering everybody like like salt. Maybe it's the salt
headed problems to in the beginning of the year. He
got better towards the end. You know, So you gotta
give gun dollars the same way.

Speaker 9 (01:50:35):
That's just what I'm doing.

Speaker 7 (01:50:36):
Give him the same benefit of the doubt, right exactly one.

Speaker 9 (01:50:39):
Is it just a poematim me?

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Well? Yeah, I mean you know, if you listen, I
don't know how you could be a factor if you
can't stay healthy enough to stay on the field. And
right now, that's gonna be the biggest, the biggest problem
for him to overcome is staying healthy. So you know,
you can't play. If you can't stay healthy, can't play,
and you can't make it. You can't make a difference
if you can't play on the field. He's got to
learn how to get on the field and stay on

(01:51:03):
the field. Some guys never learn how to do that.
The jury is still out, but I have to say
it's trending in a bad direction for it bad.

Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
Direction it is, especially when we had Watson.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Here. We know, we know, brother, we know, we know.
All right, you be safe out there. Eldred YouTube missiles
always good, always good to talk to you. Thank you,
my friend Eldred in North Carolina. Uh forgot to do
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(01:51:57):
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(01:52:19):
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(01:52:41):
the New England Patriots. Our thanks well certainly to all
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I hope you enjoyed the samuelcast on Patriots dot Com
with the video. A little bit of an adventure to
get started today, but hey, we pulled it off. So hey,
you know, when you're doing something for the first time,
there's always going to be a bump. Thanks to Chad
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(01:53:02):
and our good friend Russell Baxter at bas Football Guru
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with parentheses around it. Thanks to Marine Matt, who puts
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Next Wednesday, we'll recap a bit from the Sunday afternoon

(01:53:23):
game and look forward to Week two against the Miami
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