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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think it's just as many reps as we're on wheel,
so we kind of cater the medias towards him and
Josh Dobbs and then Walter Field. So we're trying to
cater everything those three guys and each other. Learning you
talk pretty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, you guys still using virtuality this year.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We try to use all the tools available to us,
virtual reality, walk through rooms, practice reps. He's coming out here,
extra walk through, so everything we could do to get
them gone. So if you were asked this already, but
I know think you're kind of learning with Josh mca
bridge the gap and I kind of learned it, you know,
when I got here, and then when Drake got here,
it was kind of me giving him advice, like, hey,
this has helped me a little bit, so I think
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this can help you. And so that part has been
pretty neat. But again it's just going through it, stealing
repetitions and as.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Many reps we can get them.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is what we're trying to do. What did he do? What?
I'm sorry, what did he do?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Really well?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
What do you like in the days you've seen him
here in the meeting room and film, like, what.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Is what are you? What assets are building around.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I think he does a good job of taking the
meeting room to the field. So every day we come
out here with different types of emphasis and what we
wanted to work on, and every day he's really trying
to you know, attack those things and be intentional about
his uh, you know, his progression in offense. So I
think he does that super well. And then the physical gifts,
I think, you guys a.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Beautiful Josh has been saying that's this time of years,
mistakes can kind of be a good thing because you
can learn from them.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Do you feel like Drake has embraced that or do
you still feel like he's in a sort of perspectionist No.
I think he's definitely embraced it. And this is the
time of year again with you know, no repercussions to them,
mistakes for us to kind of figure out what we
do very well, what we might need to work on
a little bit, try to fit in throws that we
might not necessarily do on a Sunday. So we're kind
of trying to push ourselves to the limit just to
see what we can.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
And can't do. Josh was talking about how he's going
to be running some places he's never run before. How
much of a voice do you feel like you and
the other assistants have and Shi informing the offense.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I think it's been very collaborative, and you know, that's
kudos to Josh because he's had a ton of success
in his past and he's been very open, you know,
the new schemes and new systems and new techniques. So
I think it's going to be fun and he's been
super open to them.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I noticed say it, yeah, and I'm sure it's the
same with you. So you know, how do you find
the right time to give him the feedback that he.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Needs, Like Josh or Mike take the lead on that.
What's that like for you?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think with the three of us, we're always in
constant communication, Me, Coach Brabel, and Josh, so it's all
the same streamline message moving forward. We try to make
sure we're all in lockstp talking to them, but it's
a very natural communication. Sometimes it's Josh given the coaching points,
sometimes it's myself, sometimes it's coach Brabil, but we're all in.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The same way.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
She wished that process like, even though you're familiar with
the erie, you were in Cleveland for quite some time.
You're coming in, you have a job to do, but
you're trying to earn certain trust with the coaches, whether
you with the players.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
What's that process been like for you.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's just putting your head down and working and knowing
that what you do is gonna come to light at
the end of the day. So I don't try to
be anybody. I'm not just come in. I go to
work super hard. I try to show those guys better
than I can tell.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
And I mean just thinking about how young you were
when you got in, and people might look at your age,
but obviously your resume is very impressive. What are some
of the biggest things that you think have help would
you be able to get to this point, to be
able to work with guys like Josh and obviously Drake.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it's about the people who have poured into
me since I got into Cleveland, and really the NFL
guys like Kevin Stefancy Stunt, Mitchell, Chad O'shay who was
here for a long time, you know, Duce Staley. I
can like list a number of guys who have helped me.
TC McCartney was here last year, Alex Van pelt All
those guys have been super intentional and and grooming me,
I would say, and I just try to take everything
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they say and kind of you know, develop that into
my game and put my own little flavor on it.
And now working with Josh has been awesome, trying to
you know, get what he's coaching and trying to add
that to my repensil.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
And Drank did he didn't speak favorably about a VP system,
and so I guess it's it makes sense that like
you being here bringing some of.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
The same things, that creates familiarity, right. I mean, I
know the.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
League, there are only so many plays you can run.
But but I'm sure that helps rights to have a
coaching background in the same treat so to speak.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And you know, a lot of it is study too,
Like we we went back. I can watch a lot
of Drake, So Josh was you know, very in tune
to what Drake did well last year. So it's a
little bit of you know, me having that background. It's
a little bit of you know, Josh doing his homework
as well.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, I think Drake's doing a hell of a job
with just a change from one offense to a new offense.
He's been a pros pro. You come in here every
day ready to work. He puts his best foot forward,
and he's been super intentional with everything what we've asked.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
Him to do.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
So I think it's sad, Thank you.
Speaker 9 (04:35):
I don't go in there thinking to myself, I have
to be this or that. I just try to be
who I am. I try to correct, I try to
make it a teaching environment. I try to get people better.
However that comes across, I can't. I can't assess that
is there anything off the field about well that you've
learned that stands out to you. I think that you
know the work and the dedication. I think everyone that
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comes here, and it's been the same with everyone in
the group. I don't think you can to show up
and you know, put in your time here and then
when you leave not think about it at all. And
I think you know a lot of the players, I've
been happy with everyone. You know, once they're taking what
we're doing here and they're spending some time looking at it,
and then when they come back they're ready to go.
So it's been I think you have to approach the
game that way.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Thanks all right?
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Great.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 9 (05:18):
To be this or that, and I just try to
be who I am. I try to correct, I try
to make it a teacher environment. I try to get
people better. How if that comes across, I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I can't do something.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Still a very anything else everybody to the same as
far as the rules go, as far as understanding how
guys receive information, to communicate the best ones, to bring
the best out of as the overall goal.
Speaker 10 (05:39):
As a coach of the leader, and if you're ready
to switch up your teaching style like some guys are
visual or some guys just yeah, I mean as.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
My job again to figure out how to deliver information
to make the most effective. What I know is will
be a brother effredile for players because I'm not playing
their players. So whatever it takes. Would it be more
getting up and moving around and having more walk throughs
from individuals roof.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Stand point you know where the board and throwing things.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Up versus building different teach step examples, whatever it takes,
I'm always able to after the just too.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
What are the players I have.
Speaker 8 (06:07):
In the round?
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Well, Jack Stiberg a lot of op Jernis last week? Yeah,
what has he done to Earth does opportunities.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I think being consistent.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I think as far as having versatility that can play
a wide, tidy end position, can be off the ball
to play the f position, but also give them some flexibility.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
To play an actual fullback spot.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
And so I think the more you can do, the
more you can digest from a knowledge standpoints, gives a
chance to.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Be on the grass more.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
And if you give you more opportunities to get to
the maximizer by we'll kind of feed you more reps
as well.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
How important is the fullback in the system? What does
it take to be able to fit that role?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Those guys are harder five man, I think it's kind
of a last of a dying breed, a different mentality
when it comes to how guys are building wired to
be physical to kind of stick your face in the fan.
But I think as far as being able to force
guy's hands from a personnel staying point matchup fives. This
is a matchup based league. So whether they be them
trying to match Nickel to eleven when you're in twenty one,
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you can run some virsatial things for off, just staying
pointing a forced guy's fans to you know what, they're
gonna play base and play man and man colors, playing
sub and play zone defense, gonna get to give yourself
a chance to have the chalk rass.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Sorry late to the party here, don't apologize. It's been
asked already.
Speaker 11 (07:13):
But joshre just talking earlier about you know, how you
guys are incorporating to plays that he's really not all
that familiar with running in the past.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
So how did those get introduced? Like, are you guys
sitting in a big room and say hey, what about
this Josh?
Speaker 11 (07:24):
And he just will throw it ready into a you know,
a meeting or practice setting like those ideas for this stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
I think it's been an ongoing conversation.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think at the beginning, I think it's important to
listen before you communicate. So, uh, when I first gut here,
I wanted to not just as much as I could
of the.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Offense in the past kind of where Josh.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Has built it from from a philosophical standpoint, how we
communicate language wise and then be able to translate that
into future ideas. And he gave us a couple opportunities
throughout the awesome of five players got here to say,
build a couple cut.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Up some things you do want to kind of incorporate.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So we go through what I have, you know, some
some runs and run actions and drove back pass game,
and it's been evolving a fluid process.
Speaker 11 (08:07):
How do you know when.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
To make that leap in terms of suggesting of you know,
maybe suggesting and something new.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, I'm a pretty open and honest, kind of
direct type of guy. But I think he's done a
great job of first and forced communicating what we're kind
of expecting as far as the overall development of our
staff and our players as well, but giving us a
window of time to be able to incorporate ideas as well.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Going back to the fullback question, what do you see
from brock Lampy so far and what do you think
he's will potentially be.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, again, I mean he's was a very physical player
in college.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Was obviously Brussel moved a round a bunch, carried the
ball at times, but for a lever standpoint being to
come out of his hips, to be aggressive at the
point of contact, which we won't kind of find out
fully until we get into the falls, which I'm excited
about that when that time comes.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But he's been aggressing along well, learn.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The offense, and I try to force the entire group
to learn every single spot. He's kind of been more
so focused around the fullback position. He's been doing well
so far.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
What full back sometimes see guys confer from defensive line
offensive line like that. Is that just because there's not
that many full backs in college right now, or does
it just take a different mentality that position.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I think it's a mix of both.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I think there's there's very few teams you're gonna find
a cause that actually play with a full back. There's
very few NFL teams they actually play with a fullback,
so one they're kind of hard to find. I would say,
in large they're probably your third fourth string linebacker. They're
undersized tackle, and they definitely have tot have a certain mentality.
There's no there's no a fair dodging when they come
to certain specific players.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We're playing a fullback position.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
So they got to have the physical tras to do it,
but also the mentality to be able to be wired
to be a physical player.
Speaker 11 (09:36):
We have seen some tight ends, you know out here
again pads on the lining in that way. Yeah, will
you how important will those first few days of pads
and training camp be to kind of get to that
mentality what's guys and understand whether or not they have that.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
To play that spot.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I mean I've talked to some of the entire
group about their knowing doing gap right, So knowing how
to do something and.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Be able to do it, it's two different things.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And so well, we're going through the process of now
a massive information those details, how to line up, how
to play full speed. But when we actually put the
full pads on at some point you'll find out more
about God as far to the county standpoint.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
But he.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
Through it just like anybody else that's coming off of
kind of that that type of layoff, and so he's
he's working through that conditioning part of it with the
strength staff and the training staff and he's working his
way back in. So excited to work with him. Glad.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Mike Elliott told us sorry entering a round two, there
was some debate on who the team was gonna select,
and they just said it was a really good conversation
when it ends up happening when they end up picking Travion,
just you know, how excited are you you know about
the pick, especially concerning they told basically, I think it
was against another player.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
They were debating two players. Obviously they settled on Travion.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
But just as that's sort of going down like it happens,
how excited are you about You.
Speaker 8 (10:55):
Know that it's exciting because you know we uh we
you know, assistant coaches, you you evaluate the guys that
they give you to evaluate, and you have an opinion
on him. And uh, at the end of the day,
we won't coach whoever they puts in our room, whoever
they put in our room, but certainly he was a
guy that had done some really good things in college. Uh,
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and he fits some of these that that we felt
like we could address and our running backs with our
running back situation, and uh so I was very excited
about it. I tried to recruit him back in high
school years ago when I was at West Virginia and
he he snubbed me. But so, uh it was good.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
It was good to be able.
Speaker 8 (11:40):
To reconnect with him, and obviously I'm very excited about
him and what he may be able to do to help.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Us go forward.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
What did you like about even like in high school
or the process?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
First, first and foremost he's a great he's a great
human being. He's a great person, great kid. Uh. And
then obviously the physical attributes. Uh, he's certainly fast, and
he brings a speed element to our team. Uh that
you know, obviously, anytime you can get a guys as
fast as he is, it is beneficial for the whole,
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for the whole offensive unit and special teams. And then uh,
he obviously caught the ball well out of the backfield.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
He did a really good job I thought in past protection.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
And then you know, in my time that I got
to spend with him, he seemed to pick up concepts
fairly quickly. So go state with you know, with all
those things, it's you feel like it's a you're getting
a good prospect and we'll have to see how it
materializes from there being tackled only four or five times
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as opposed to where you are being hit every play,
or you're protecting and past protection every place.
Speaker 11 (12:55):
I did worried that you guys were able to get him,
And and how has it been working with.
Speaker 10 (12:59):
If you had asked me, I would have had to
hide my enthusiasm. I'm a big fan of Kyle's and
it's been great.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
To have him here.
Speaker 10 (13:05):
You know, he's working his tail off and like any rookie,
there's going to be some ups and downs.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Along the road, but uh, you know he he's working
his tail off, but he's fun would him in the
draft process.
Speaker 12 (13:17):
I really enjoyed his top thirty US and that's where
we kind of built a connection.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
And I kind of found out how he learns, how
he processes new information, and you know, we spent some
time together in the meeting room and got to eat
a meal together, and you know, really kind of break
down more than just a quick zoom with the draft prospect.
Speaker 10 (13:35):
And he's one of those guys that has an infectious
energy to him.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Obviously on the tape there's plenty of like you know,
there's a gala attributes things that you know, I think
will benefit him in the system. But you know, just
a great kid, editorious.
Speaker 12 (13:54):
How do you feel like just the young group, their
work ethic has been great and it's been fun to
watch them put in the extra time and you know
they'll text me questions at night, or text Riley Larkin,
who's helping out with this, you know, a question or
ask for a drawing or an example whatever, and it's
been neat to see them really sink their teeth into
it and attack the abstitute.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So I hope that continues. And Okay, dimidants. You know,
as we finish up here in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Train Todd, Josh was talking about how he's learning stuff
from you guns and like some of the stuff. I
already really like some of the stuff. I'm trying to
just to get around the bend on sort of the
same boat with like his stuff and trying to learn
his stuff and what I feel like works for your
group and what doesn't.
Speaker 10 (14:33):
First of all, pretty humbling and awesome that you know,
Josh would be interested in what concepts that Thomas or
Tony or myself would want to bring to the table.
He's had a successful system, and he has no reason
other than trusting us and believing in us to want
to hear what we have to say.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
And so that's been, you know, quite an honor to
do that collectively. In terms of learning his system. I'm
sure all along the.
Speaker 10 (14:57):
Way they are going to be things that I need
clarific on or something that I haven't done that way before.
And he's got about a twenty year catalog of clips
he can show me to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
So those are helpful when I need to get something
cleaned up a little late to the party. I'm sure
you've already been.
Speaker 12 (15:14):
Every day Kyle Williams improvement and understanding what he's supposed
to be able to do it right now.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, I think every rookie is going to have a
little ebb and flow.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
You know, as you put some new install in, maybe
it slows down your play speed a little bit, and
you gotta kind of make a new mistake. And and
that's the key with Kyle right now. He has hasn't
been an air repeater. He might mess something up, but
he comes back and he fixes it, and he works
hard to move on to the next mistake, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And and I think that's going to be part of
his process the whole way through.
Speaker 10 (15:44):
Really pleased with the work ethic he's shown, and I
expect him to continue to develop it. A Stris welcome
us all and all of our ideas.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You have to like make flash cards that night and
stuff like that. I did some of that early. Part
of that's prepping for the players too, you know, wanting
to eight resources for them to make the resources you
have to you know, spend the time to put it together.
So yeah, there's definitely an aspect of that.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Well, what is the biggest challenge going from one systems
going out? I guess I think they're challenges throughout, you know,
and challenges sometimes can be misconstrued is a bad thing,
you know. I think challenges are good because it gets
you outside of your comfort difference. So it might be
the way we do something in the wrung game and
ask our receivers to block it's different than I'm used to,
or it may be something that's a rout adjustment. Is
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I'm used to calling it this and I'm work calling
it something different. But we're all in the same page
as of staff.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
And we work very, very hard.
Speaker 10 (16:34):
To try to make sure that we're one really in
a solidified answer.
Speaker 13 (16:38):
As you get to when it comes to that kind
of stuff, route adjustments, things like that got in the past.
I think with Josh's offense, a lot is made about
how complex it is, Like, do you feel that it's
all complex, more complex than other systems you've worked in,
you know.
Speaker 10 (16:51):
I think every system has something that you could consider complex,
whether it's a lot more verbiage in the traditional West
Coast systems or you know, rout adjustments in this system.
There's going to be a challenge and something that you
have to get used to with every single system. So
I don't see this as any more complex than than
other systems I've been around.
Speaker 14 (17:09):
You just need to focus your attention eight different areas.
Stefan Diggs has been in and out throughout voluntary portions. Here,
Are you getting the feedback that he's doing everything he's
supposed to be doing in terms of a football standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:21):
I stay in contact with Stefan, and you know, I
have a bit of a history with him, going back
to our time together in Minnesota, and so I can
usually get a pretty good gauge if he understands what
we're trying to get done or you know what, you
know what I might need to spend a little extra
time on with him. So I believe he's working hard.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
All right, Thanks so much, appreciate it.