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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So just talk a little bit about just your excitement
for this opportunity and what you see from this defense.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Which you know, quite frankly, really had a lot of
troubles last year.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Uh, you know, I'm I couldn't be more excited about
this opportunity really to work with these guys. Just looking
at the players, you know, looking at the roster. That
probably be the most exciting part of it for me,
you know, getting to know some of the guys being
in here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's been awesome. So pretty fired up about it.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Obviously, the opportunity to work here, work with Liam. I'm
just I'm mamped up. You know, I'm mamped up in
every which way.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Why do you want to work you know, I think
that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Both Northeast guys, you know, but we've known each other
for for quite a bit, you know, working the camps
circuits over the years in college. But really just his energy,
you know what, what what I got from talking to him? Uh,
he's just he's the right type of guy, you know,
(01:07):
his vision, his toughness.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm really really fired up about that. What's your vision
for the defense in terms.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Of just in terms of yeah, I think the most
important thing you talk about when you talk about defense
is your play style. You know, my vision for us defensively,
we want to be a tough, fast, physical, violent at
the point of attack team.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
What does that mean? All right?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That means that you got guys who take pride and
not getting blocked.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Everybody talks about running to the ball.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I don't think there's another person in the world who
believes in running to the ball more than I do.
But you can't run to the ball if you don't
get all blocks. And that is something that's going to
be celebrated in our room. It's gonna be celebrated in
the culture of our team. You know, there's gonna be
a you know, there's a point in every play where
somebody tries to block you, right.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Your passion to not stay blocked is really what makes
plays on defense, you know. Uh, coaching scheme, all that
stuff that's great, like really important, But at the end
of the day, the players win the game, you know,
and the violence at the point of attack. Uh, the
effort to strain and the finish that it takes to
not stay blocked and run to the football, that's.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What really creates a great defense.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We want guys that are gonna play with their shoulder square,
you know, be able to read everybody's number and name,
tag every play and attack contact, never turn it down.
Those are tenants of a great defense, you know. Those
are tenants all the great defenses in the history of football,
and the great defenses I've ever been around, but we had,
you know, when I watched that on the tape, when
I watched the guys here, I see a lot of that.
(02:54):
I see great effort, great strain, you know, and meeting
these guys, we got a lot of great people in here.
I'm excited to coach. And like you know, you just
asked about Liam. You know, he's about the same things.
You know, he wants strained, he wants an effort, and
you know that's the environment I want to be in
every day, and I know we can succeed in hopefully
(03:15):
answer your question, well, how far are.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You in the roster evaluation process.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That we're all just kind of going through that right now,
you know, all our coaches letting everybody go through through everything.
You know, Positionally I've been able to watch a lot
of guys myself, but obviously with hiring the staff and
evaluating the players right now still, I would say, you know,
relatively on the front end of it, in all fairness,
(03:42):
and we're kind of collaborating a meeting on that as
a defensive staff right now as well.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You know, you have to be done with that full
evaluation before you go to the.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Combine or now. Uh yeah, i'd like to be.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, I think we're close to that, you know,
And obviously there's a lot coming up down or coming
down to pipe right, free agents and obviously the draft
with the combine coming up.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
So guys are working hard.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You know, they're in here honestly, they're in here early
and we're grinding until late night.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I know I am trying to.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Make sure we put the best group of guys together
and obviously do the best job in our evaluations.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
How much take would you say you watched so far
from last year?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I watched a fair amount.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I watched quite a bit of it, to be honest
with you, And I have a lot of respect for
the guys who coached here and the guys who played
here last year, because I see strain, I do, I
see effort.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I know maybe there wasn't the result that everybody wanted.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
All the time, but I knew and coming here there
was a lot of guys that I did or was
excited with the opportunity to coach specifically.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Who I'm pursuing the past rushers, cornerback, sure.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Sure, yeah, absolutely there's guys, and then you know, at linebacker,
I would say I've evaluated a lot of these guys,
probably know them a little bit better because you evaluated
pretty closely going into the draft every year, you know,
and that was my position. So there's really a bunch
of guys. I'm pretty familiar with the way they play
their play style as college players. And then you know,
you usually keep up with guys in the NFL and
(05:08):
you see guys in crossover tape. But absolutely we got
some pass rushers, we have some interior dlignement, we have
some toughness, and linebacker, we got some guys in the.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Back end that I've been really impressed with the tape
that you watched. What would you say was the biggest issues.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's simply a matter of just not winning enough one
on one battles.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
No, I mean, I've gotten lesson to that in terms
of like schematics. You know, we're kind of like moving
forward on that and just looking at everybody plugs into
what we want to do moving forward. So I've probably
spent less time on, you know, what all the issues are,
and more time on evaluating the players and their their
play style, their playability, to be honest with you, because
(05:52):
that to me is like the most important thing for
us right now that we know our players and then
we know our roster.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
How many decisions do he makes wise now as opposed
to maybe the offseason when you get really get hands
on the guys on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, I think where you look at whenever you come
into a place, you know, a new environment like that
kind of happened in Green Bay last year. To be
honest with it, for me, right, I was in Miami
for a bunch of years and went there and as
Jeff and I were kind of ripping it down to
the studs and our defensive stabblished building it from the
ground up. You always evaluate what's in the building, you
know what I mean, what do the guys do well
(06:25):
and how does that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Fit into our scheme?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And I think great coaches always have the ability to
be malleable with the scheme to fit what the players
do best. So yeah, that's part of it, and then
as you go for sure, like as your roster changes,
you know, sometimes that affords you the opportunity to do
a little bit more stuff or less. What if the
defense doesn't get turnovers for the reasons for that, I
(06:49):
think one of the I could probably answer it better
by saying the reason in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
For turnovers, I think a lot of that comes from
vision on the ball.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
If you look at a statistics over the years in
the NFL, a lot of takeaways occur with vision on
the ball. I think like some of those happen in
the Super Bowl, you know, some like you just think
about some of the playoff games and the games that
you've watched most recently. When you have vision on the ball,
you have an opportunity to create or better opportunity to
create takeaways.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I also think that the guys that have great ball.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Awareness and the guys that strain that as a team,
you know, the units that really strain that.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's you go back and look at it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
How many attempts are you making on the ball, whether
that's punching the ball right, whether that's violent contact on
the ball, how I'm clamping on a tackle. All those
things can factor in to takeaways, and to me, you
have to do a really really good job studying that
and presenting that information visually to the players, get as
many great visuals for them, knowing how people carry the ball, right,
(07:49):
Is a guy late to the tuck after he catches
the ball. Does he carry the ball on his inside
arm near sideline? Is the guy switches the ball in traffic?
Is the ball off his body? Is he an elbowl outrunner?
Those are the guys that you want to target, and
you want to target.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
The specific ways.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
So me that so to me, uh, there is a
little bit of a I don't want to say a
science to that, but certainly a technique and a coaching
philosophy to that. Absolutely, you know, and I think every
drill you do. You know, like we've talked about this.
As a defensive staff, I don't want any drills that
(08:21):
don't end without a tackle or a takeaway or an
attempt at a take away. I don't because every play
is going to end that way, you know, That's what
we're shooting for or shooting for, you know, violent finish
on a tackle, uh, violently trying to separate somebody from
the ball when the ball's in the air or violently
trying to take the ball away at the point of attack.
So we need to be drilling that every day, you know,
And that's on me to make sure we are being
(08:43):
with a coach.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Berkin's a great band last year. What was it about
him that you know, manport for him to be on
the staff with him?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Yeah, he had a great perks got it. You guys
will meet him. He's got a great disposition. He's just
super easy to talk to, great communicator. He's a really
really good teacher. And the dude is just like a
tireless worker. I don't know if he sleeps, so he's
he might be a vampire, but he works like he
(09:10):
works like an animal. So I just I have like
such a deep respect for that, you know. And those
are the guys like I always kind of gravitate to,
you know. I love the guys that like do more,
find a way and just super detailed, like really clear, concise,
direct and easy to talk to.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So the players really, you know, got.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Along with him really really well, and they were able
to learn from him because he presents the information in
a way that is easy to learn.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
From your perspective, out board can a guy like Eric
Rmstead being with a new staff, just his leadership off
the field, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean, you know, you look at you know him
and winning the Man of the Year award and all that.
He speaks to the character of him, you know, the
type of guy he is. I've gotten a chance to
talk to Eric, so been awesome and been around a
bunch of guys who have coached him too, which is cool.
But he's Yeah, absolutely, you know, the leadership qualities that's
super you know, that excites you, keeps you super excited
(10:03):
about that. But also you know, watching the guy play
over the years, he's got a great play style, big
explosive guy, and he's had a ton of success in his.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Career because of that. So excited to coach him, without
a doubt. One of the guys. I'm definitely excited about
him as a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Uh yeah, I think for the majority of his career
he's had so much success doing that.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know, he's a guy that's obviously, as you've seen last.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Year, was able to move around a little bit, you know,
so he's got some multiplicity to his skill set. But
he's just a problem honestly, wherever he is. You know,
you watch him there as he lines up on a
tight end that's not a great matchup. He lines up
on a guard, that's a tough matchup. So it's good
to have guys that are that are a matchup problem.
And he's had so much productivity inside over his career. Tough.
(10:47):
Is it to said, I guess the tone or the
mentality that you want to build for this defense. I
mean from maybe scratches.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It stuff through the off season. Is it bringing in
the right.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Kind of guys?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What is it? That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think that's just your effort and enthusiasm you come
into building with every day, you know what I mean,
Like me.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Personally, the coaches, the players.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's making sure that our mindset is right every day
and we're on it every day. It's not something you
could talk about though, you know what I mean, Like
your meeting's got to be that way, the practice has
got to be that way.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Individuals got to be that way.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Everything you want to go through with a fine toothed
comb with the intention of getting guys better. You know
what I'm saying, Like everything you do is about getting
guys better. Everything we do has to have a purpose, right,
So like that's how we walk through.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
We walk through with detail.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
We're all just kind of like swintering in there and
you know, milling around.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
That can't be the case.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
It's got to be done with detail and everything that
we do individually with these guys every you know, look, we.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Film the individual for a reason, right, You film the
drills for a reason.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You're watching those every day trying to pick up little
things that can help the guys play better, improve their
technique so they can go out on a Sunday and produce.
But that that environment, Yeah, it's got to be about strain, uh,
in everything we do.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
In my opinion, every coordinator.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Has kind of like different levels of flexibility when it
comes to game plans on a week by week faces.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Since this is your first foray into.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
This, how flexible do you think you will be as
things move along, whether it's with players suggestions, coach suggestions,
things like that that might be different from what you
had intended to do.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, I think you have to be flexible. I think
I've been really fortunate being a lot of systems. Defensively,
I've been with some guys who, you know, one of
their ger some of their best qualities are their flexibility
and the system's flexibility, meaning that I think a lot
of people get into the hair.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Ye three four, you're four to three or four to
two five. What do you guys do on defense?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I think when you look at all the teams, even
the three four teams, they play a bunch of four down.
So like, if you're looking at that, you'd be aware
of that and you see that there's flexibility within everybody's scheme.
Sometimes the offenses personnel grouping forces you to be flexible, right,
and then defensively, how do you make it hard on them?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Do you play different groupings to those personnels, maybe some
stuff that they're not expecting and playing to the strengths
of your defense. So like even in Green Bay last year,
we played, you know, a bunch of four down. We
played a lot of three down spacing with four down people,
you know, because we felt that gave us a better
answer versus some of the things that we were seeing
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and let us be pretty flexible. So I think in
this league you have to be able to adjust, like
in the game. In the game, you have to be
able to adjust to me, you know. I think Brian
Floor as I would say the guy worked for I
thought he did a great job, you know, of making
sure everybody was seeing it that way. You know that
in the game the information is so valuable and from
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drive to drive we all have to be in great
communication with each other to get into the next best
call or the next you know, the next call, next
series that's going to help us get off the field.
So yeah, I mean some of those guys I've learned
a bunch from. You know, I would say is Vic
Fangel is the same way, just super adaptable and you know,
super intelligent, great guys to be around.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So you've worked with a variety of different coaches and defenses.
How challenging is it for you to run the defense
that you desire with the personnel.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
That you have.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I don't think it's that challenging.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I mean, maybe I shouldn't say that, but I have
a very good idea there's probably a better way to
say that of what I want to do and with
and doing that with the people we have in the building.
You know, I think what we want to do. Part
of the reason why this job was appealing is I
think with the people in the building what I want
this defense to be. It's it's a pretty good match.
It's a pretty good fit. I feel like a lot
(14:57):
of those guys fit into what we want to do
and they're going to have an opportunity to do it really,
really well, you know, And to me, like that's on us,
how hard we coach them, how well we coach them.
I feel like we got some really good pieces in
place to do that, to execute the scheme you.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Prepped, So you were looking primarily at Jackson those offense.
So did you want things about the defense that you
maybe didn't even recognize or you faced.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Them this year? Say that again. I'm sorry, I just
want to make sure i'm.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
During the regular season matchup, primarily you look at a
Jackson those offense. Yes, you learn stuff about the defense
when you knew you got to take this interview that
maybe you weren't aware of it before.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
No, I think you know really in the preparation for
the game obviously, Like you said, primarily with the offense,
I learned a lot about some of the personnel on offense.
That excited me too, and the otherest with you because
we had to go out and defense some of those
guys and they're very good players, So that part of
it excited me also, but really more so, and you
watch them crossover tape and then getting ready, you know,
(15:55):
when you start interviewing, you start that process, you really
start to do a deeper dive and the personnel, uh,
and the pieces that are in the locker room that
you would be working with. Yeah, that's that's really really
where I got most of my h you know, info
and probably a better feel for that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Thanks. Thanks,