September 12, 2024 • 27 mins
After a season-opening win, the Seahawks get their first road test with an east coast visit to the Patriots. Jen Mueller and John Boyle preview Week 2 at Gillette Stadium. Today’s show: Main takeaways from Sunday (01:10), Seahawks under pressure (02:17), Seahawks new off day (04:39), Patriots quality run defense (11:05), Rhamondre Stevenson (14:55), Fantasy Insider Scott Engel (23:08), and two things we need to see (24:27).
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Now here's your host, Jen Mueller.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
What an opening week for the Seahawks. Maybe a little
bit more drama than we might have liked, John Boyle,
but everything ends well when there is a w involved
and you can just take week one is maybe just
a learning lesson, right. We are not among the people
that get paid to overreact after one game. There's a
lot of people who get paid to overreact. We are
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not one of them. We are looking for trends, facts
and what we saw last week against Speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm reacting, I'm getting uts.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We're getting crazy today. No, I can find things to
overreact about it just that's not generally No, that's not well,
let's not do that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We could change it up one of these days, but
not today yet.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What did we take away from that game on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I mean, to me, obviously took away the defense played
really hard, really fast. You know, I know the opponents
are going to get tougher at some point, but just
very encouraging first signs from the defense.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's to me the biggest thing I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Would say for me, the importance of the run game,
the ability to bounce back. And last week I said
I wanted to see how many people on offense we're
going to get involved. Nine different players got involved, which
to me, and outside of Ken Walker and Tyler Lockett,
was some big plays. It's not that everybody was filling
up the stat sheet, it's that it was diverse in
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some of the play calling and how people were involved
in the game.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean you saw like their touchdown to Zach
Sharboney is one catch of the game or second two catches,
but still like guy not doing a lot, but when
he got his chance, took advantage.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And yeah, they got a lot of weapons.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
No, I am not going to say that My face
was very neutral for the first few plays that the
offense was on the field.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Not the best start.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I try not to show a lot of reaction. I
might have shown a little bit more reaction that I
intended to. I think the biggest thing we learned about
this team was how they would react under pressure, and
it was pretty evident from the players and the coaches.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Nobody was getting flustered on the sideline when after the
pick or after the two safeties. The defense just said,
all right, we know we gotta do and then they
went out there and got to stop.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, we heard that from DK and also we heard
after the game multiple people pointed to Gino Smith being
the guy that kind of got everyone together, calmed him down.
I talked to Lake and Tomlinson in the locker room
on Wednesday, and he talked about that, like, look, teams,
some teams don't respond to that kind of start and
then conspiral on you, and then you know, the offense
can start pointing fingers and guys get mad and all that,
and they just stuck together fought through it. It was
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a pretty lousy start all around for that offense, but
they bounced back well well and.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
For this group with a brand new coaching staff, and
that was among one of the things to figure out,
and I heard it on both sides. The coaches wanted
to see how the players were going to respond, and
the players wanted to see how their coaches were going
to respond. And there was a couple of guys who
talked about that after the game in the locker room.
That was like, yeah, nobody panicked. And I will tell you, Gino,
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when he brought the entire team together, it wasn't a
yelling at. It was the reminder of this is who
we are. He got a lot of agreement. There was
a lot of guys that were nodding their heads. It
wasn't a tenor of frustration or this thing is, you know,
getting out of control in a hurry. I think that
that might be the biggest thing that we learned in
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week one and the thing that will serve this team
the best.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
No, I mean you obviously you didn't want to start
the game that way, but I think in the long
run that can actually be a good thing for this team.
Of like, hey, we faced some mostly self afflicted adversity
early on and fought through it and came out on
the better side of it in the second half.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, and I think you really did see kind of
the full team effort on that one. Here's what else
we saw for the first time we saw the players
off day change. Yeah, And I thought it was fascinating
to listen to Mike McDonald talk about how he reviews
tape and when he reviews film at the game. Yeah,
because the only thing I have ever seen from every
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coach I've ever covered is you get on the plane. Yeah,
everybody's downloaded and they're starting to go through tape.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, you walk around that plane after game and all
the coaches into the film. And some might still like that,
but that's not what.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Mike likes well, And so if you miss that, it's
Mike McDonald wants the emotion of the game to go away,
So on game days he just kind of goes home,
he regroups, and then it's the next day that he
goes and looks at the film. And for the players,
the off day, so there is one mandated off day.
This is across the whole entire NFL. For players, typically
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that day is Tuesday, at least it has been that
way for a really long time. Here with the Seahawks,
the players off day is now Monday, and they will
come in on Tuesday and start their work week. And
again this kind of goes back to Mike McDonald's philosophy
is painting just a little bit of the emotion.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Out of it.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I'd say the main thing is to really just be
able to take a deep breath after the game and
then be able to move on. You know, that's the
main thing. Take the emotion out of it, be able
to kind of digest understand why you want, are lost,
where you need to improve. The guys get it the
next day, and then you're you know, you're once they
come in, you're kind of in next week's mode. There's
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no there's no like break, you know, say, this is
what happened, Let's move on. Okay, Now it's like an
extended week on that next opponent.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I kind of like that idea of your just you're
already on to the next week by Tuesday, as opposed
to in the past you sort of have if you
take the Tuesday off, which a lot of teams around
the league, do you sort of Monday sort of like, hey,
we're looking back at the previous game and then Wednesdays
when that shift happens. So the way Mike SE's like, yeah,
we're kind of getting a little head start on the week.
I'll be curious to hear how players feel later on,
because this does eliminate sort of the idea like sometimes
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coach like to surprise players with, oh, take Monday off
and it turns into two days off after a win.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Now that I don't extra victory day off. Now we'll shue.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Mike has surprised them a few times and canceled meetings
and canceled practices, so I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That he will find a way out of one of
these days.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm sure that he will find a way to reward
them and that defense. I mean, look, I'm not going
to hand out stars too early in the season, but
they definitely deserve some credit and a reward. How about
thirteen first downs allowed by that defense. That is the
fewest in a game since twenty twenty, and ten of
Denver's fifteen offensive possessions and did in either a three
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and out or a turnover. Now, I think some of
that is a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I think some of
that is you started to see what this defense can do.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, exact.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I mean again, it's gonna get harder as the season
goes along. You're going to face some more experienced quarterbacks,
some more dynamic offenses. But I mean, just what does
translate regardless of the opponent is how guys tackled. How
they were just swarming to the ball every time you denver,
they were checking the ball down a lot. And that
strategy can work really well if you can make a
guy miss or two. But they just weren't able to
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break tackles. And with that, it was just you know,
short gay and short gay and tackle for loss. And
it is really exciting to see a defense play like that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
This week, you were going to see two defensive minded
head coaches. You were going to see two very young coaches.
You were going to see two defensive minded teams because
the New England Patriots are coming off a surprising win
against Cincinnati, and they too, only allowed thirteen first downs,
they allowed seventy rushing yards. And here's the big picture
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question that I wrote down for you, John, because we
heard the message that Mike McDonald gave the team was essentially,
the team that makes the fewest mistakes is going to
win in this one. Do you think that is always
the case when you have two defensive driven teams?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I mean not always, but it definitely plays a huge factor.
And it's why so many teams focus so much on turnovers,
Like you look at the turnover differential that decides a
ton of games. So I think, you know, in a
game like this, it's probably one of the biggest factors.
But I wouldn't say always. I mean, sometimes you might
just have such a talent disparity that you can get
away with some mistakes. But yeah, I think in this game,
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being the cleaner team is going to be a big difference.
And so I mean for the CX offense, that means
eliminating a lot of what we saw in the first half.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Do you think there is more of an advantage to
being a defensive minded head coach than an offensive minded
head coach or vice versa. I know that the league
has shifted a little bit, and I feel like every
couple of years, this is a conversation you and I have.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I mean, to me, that's the offense versus defensive minded
is almost overrated. And I think maybe that's where sometimes
teams get in trouble making highers because they're not they're
looking more at scheme than the coach, the person, the leader.
And that's to me, that's the hard part to capture,
and that's I mean it's very early. We can't crown
anybody yet. But I think what gets overlooked about Mike
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McDonald because of his you know, defensive brilliance, is a
big part of why he got this job was, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Way he leads, the way he teaches, and things like that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And that's I mean, that's something we talk about with
Pete Carroll a lot, is like, it's not that he
I mean, he was a great defensive mind, but it's
that he was able to lead and motivate in a
way very few human beings can. And that's that, I
think is why we see so many failures in coaching
hires is you're just like, this guy runs a cool offense,
they score a lot of points, he's a head coach,
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or you're.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Trying to think four steps down the road, which you
kind of have to do. But remember before the hiring
people are trying to figure out I mean, if you
hire an offensive coordinator or defense like who leaves first?
And then what does that do for the rest of
the team. And you're like, how about if you just
focus on the task at hand, which is this year, yeah,
and making sure that things are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like what you outlined is that everyone fears of losing Shanahan.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That's what that scenario is is the Falcons had dan
Quin's head coach and Kyle Shanahan was this hot coordinator
and that one worked out obviously very well for the foreigners.
But a lot of these hot young coordinators they're not
ready to be head coaches. And that's where you know, again,
I think teams get into trouble. And so the Seahawks
didn't look at Okay, we need an offensive guy. They
went out and said, who's going to be the best
leader for this team?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it's going to be a fascinating matchup. Of course,
I don't think the players necessarily see it the same
way we do, because when we're looking at this, it
is a defensive matchup and it is strength against strength
because small sample size. Both teams want to run the
ball and they're going to play really good defense. Although
for the Patriots with Drod Meyo on staff, they finished
top five in that defense in like the last what
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six years five years that he's been on staff. Last year,
the Patriots allowed just three point three rushing yards per carry,
that is the fewest in the NFL. They picked up
where they left off this last week with just seventy
yards rushing by the Bengals, And some of that could
be ski, some of it could be players, or maybe
it's a combo.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I think it's the players that they have very well
coached obviously, but they play tough, they have good players,
they play hard. All the fundamentals just go right down
the list. Check check, check, play square, get off blocks,
what it takes to play really good run defense, numbers,
back it up, tape backs it up. So we had
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a great challenge ahead of us.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, I mean that's I think you can kind of
hear the admiration for Mike mcdalden, like when teams play
this style, like I think he really enjoys that of
like they're going to make it hard on us. They're
going to be tough and physical and all those things
that he wants to be as well. So yeah, I
think we say all this and it's going to be
forty two to thirty nine or something, because that's football
is just done like that. But yeah, no, I mean stylistically,
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I think there's a lot of similarity in the way
these coaches want to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think that also if you just feed ken Walker,
good things happen. What I really like last week in
the run game is that they stuck with it in
the second half. It's exactly what Mike McDonald said going
in at halftime, we got to run the ball more,
and they did. Yeah, And how many times have we
heard that, and for various reasons, it just doesn't play
out that way. But for a first time play caller
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in Grub at the NFL level, right to do that
and to stick with it, And I think some of
that is just making is ken Walker just doing what
he does.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It changed the game, oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And I think it helped that offensive line it going too,
because like we saw early on when there were some
issues with the pass protection, and you know, it's hard
for an offensive line sometimes to sort of find its
rhythm if they can't run the ball and get downhill.
So I think it helped all those guys get going.
It obviously just helped offenses the whole function. And you know,
look a lot of keeping running the you know, when
you say let's keep our eye mouth, you got to
get some first downs doing it, and they did. Because
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if you if you commit to the run and you're
getting two yards of carry and you're hunting.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So it's that they came up with some cool run schemes.
Ken Walker did his thing and it was it was
fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It might be difficult to do that again this week.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It'll be hard, Yeah, I mean, this is much better
run defense statistically that and just based on their past
and the talent they have, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
What's your level of concern on the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I don't think as high as the casual fan who
just panics and sees. I mean that I'm not trying
to share your coat. That first half was bad. I
mean two safeties that are both largely on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You had, you know, the you go.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
First three drives were sack, false start on offensive lineman,
hold on an offensive lineman, and that's I mean, that's
basically your first three drives were killed right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So it wasn't good early.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But a couple of reasons I'm confident is A it
got better as the game and along B you're playing
with a center, which is one of the most important
positions on offense in terms of what he has to do,
who joined the team in mid August and then didn't
start practicing really until late August. So it's like, I'm
not saying Connor Williams isn't ready to play and he's
not an awesome player. It's that everyone around him. They
got to figure all that out together. So I think
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that elem of the communication side of it. Those guys
kind of playing is a unit that's all going to
get better too. So look, there's lots to clean up.
They know that, But I'm more confident, I think than
a lot of people who just watch that first half
and wanted to throw things at their TV.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, that is also your job.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
John.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
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Speaker 3 (14:56):
So when it comes to the Patriots, there's a few
guys and a few names to watch out for. I
have avoided saying demandre Stevenson's name for a little bit
because his numbers were really impressive last week against Cincinnati.
That is the running back for the Patriots. John It
was one hundred and twenty yards. But there's a little
bit more to that story. He forced ten miss tackles.
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Ken Walker forced eight miss tackles. The only player who
forced more was Stevenson. As a result of those ten
miss tackles. Would you like to know how many yards
he gained after contact?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm gonna guess it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
He gained one hundred and eighteen of his one hundred
and twenty yards after contact.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, Hey, if you want to put a silver line
out from the Sioux, that means there's some.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Abil ability to get to him early. You just got
to bring him down. Well, that means that means two
yards before contact.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Jenny, you gotta really really you gotta be on that.
You know who I was talking to about this. We'll
hear from Mike McDonald in just a second. But Trey
Brown was his teammate at Oklahoma, and I said, so,
what was it like, Like, did you always know he
goes Oh, yeah, man, Lake. He is really quick off
the first step. He has got great balance. And here's
the thing. He is such a large person. You think
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that every time he runs it you he's just going
to run you over. But he doesn't. And that's what's scary.
He just kind of jukes you on, goes around and
he was like, no, it's crazy. He is always going
to fall forward for a couple of extra yards. So
I think Trey might be given his teammates a few
tips on there.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, but no, that's that's going to be the big test.
It's like, we didn't see the run.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
The run defense held that fine last week, but we
didn't see them get tested to nearly this level, both in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Terms of commitment to it and the running back talent.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
So this is going to be a great early test
to see how we saw this scheme like Austin as
the past, we saw turnovers, interceptions, but now we gotta
see him kind of get tough against our own.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well and to do that here is what Mike McDonald
is expecting.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
It's about I mean, it's about space and angles. You know,
you have to understand, you know, the angle that you
need to take, especially with you know, with the runners
that New England has, and it's about getting multiple hats
of the party because you know they're big physical backs
that fall forward and there's a huge difference between making
contact you know, a yard or two pass Lina Shrimage
and falling forward for four versus making contact there. And
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now there's multiple guys at the party in New England
does a good job of kind of getting a hat
for the hat. So there's a lot of one on
one matchups are going to be happening that we're gonna
have to win in order to have success.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I like the term at the party.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Like that because I always think at the party like
at the quarterback, Like you're meeting at the quarterback for
a party. I would say a couple of names to
keep in mind. First of all, Leonard Williams, right, who
was really active but kind of got overshadowed by everything else.
Happening on the back end of the defense. He still
had four quarterback hits. I believe it was also we
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don't talk very much about Jonathan Hankins. Yeah, that may
has quite possibly the biggest legs I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And that's what Byron Murphy on this I know.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I know, I felt really good about the leg day
that I had in the gym this week, and then
I happened to turn and I watched and Hankins has
legs that are like tree trunks. And I said, out
of curiosity, how much do you squat? And he looked
at me and he goes, well, I can't squat with
a bar over my neck anymore. You want to know why,
because he leg presses about six hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh, bend the bar.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
If he he would bend the bar and hurt himself. Yeah,
large man middle of the line. I look for him,
Iron Murphy. Yes, did you put you have like two
trees in the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
No, I mean that's it wasn't a big splashy signing
when they got Hankins. But these are the kind of
games you go out and get him for, and that
there's a reason, you know, they said early on after
that signing that Aden Dirday, the former defensive line coach
in Dallas. His coach was like, we need this kind
of guy here, and they brought him in. There's gonna
be games that John then Hankins doesn't play a ton
if you're if you're tam spread it out and throwing
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the barm. But games like this, he's going to have
a huge, huge role.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Well, and he is now a twelve year vet. He
told me last week his goal was always to play
ten years, and I said, really, you know, most guys
picked like a smaller window of time, you know, like
three to four. He goes, no, I just ten felt
really good. It felt like something not very many people do.
And after I hit ten, you know, I still f good.
So people kept calling me. I'm like, oh, and he
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is like pressing six hundred and fifty pounds. Here's another
name that I think we need to keep an eye on.
Kyle Dugger. He is a former teammate of Drek Young
at Leonore Ryan. And when Drek and I were talking
this week, like did you always know he goes yeah,
because I would practice against him and he's doing things
that nobody in d two should do. And so the
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conversations had like why don't you transfer? You could go
and do this at a big D one school, and
apparently Dougar said, Oh, I think I can accomplish my
goals right here at Lenoir Ryan. So you've got two
of the most I guess famous athletes to come out
of that program are in the NFL. They're gonna be
on the field together today. Kyle Duggar had a forced
fumble last week, a couple of huge red zone plays,
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and I think he's one of those key pieces back
there for the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, they got a few on defense again, that's that's
a talented defense. And Keon White's coming along two and
a half sacks in the opener, and good young players.
So there's not a bunch of big like all pro
household names, but this is you know, they did a
good job rebuilding that defense and they're gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, and Keyon White those two and a half sacks,
he had one all of last year one, So that
was a massive jump and performance and very active just
across that entire front. How about a player who stood
out last week on this defense, which is tough to do.
I mean you had Julian Love, you had the linebackers
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who played like they had been playing together for years,
but it actually was their first game on the field together.
Reek Woolen and that interception. Yeah, and really just following
through on what we saw in training camp, because that
was one of my big kind of question marks and
one of the things I wanted to see. Turns out
that training camp it wasn't just about showing us what
he could do. It was getting back to what he
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knew he could.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Do a lot better, just because I actually got to
work on my whole body. You know, I wasn't rehabbing
before a season. You know, usually guys trained before the season.
They're don't rehabbing, you know, guys building their bodies. Well,
you know, I had to rehab my knee and strengthen
my legs, and you know I was I feel like
I didn't focus on, you know, my whole body rather
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than this all season. You know, before a camp, I
got to you know, train and you know, have a
healthy body, you know, work on my legs, my upper
body and stuff like that. So I was like, that's
probably the biggest difference.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's always nice when we all think we see something
in training camp of like, oh, this player's really coming
through and they look like they're every good season and
then just.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Immediately goes out and validates it, like he had.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Of all the players we watching camp, who was like,
who's gonna make a leap, probably like him and Charles Cross,
who also played awesome this week by the way, two
of the guys just like, Okay, that guy's looks looks
like he's played in another level right now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And to see Reek immediately go out and do that,
And it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Because like players, coaches, everyone like just raves about that
play because it's he makes it look pretty routine. He's
washing it, Okay, ran and picked the ball, but like
when you're giving that inside leverage touris, you're like, that's
not a play cornerbacks are supposed to make. Pete Carroll
us to talk about this too, with Reek as a rookies,
like he's doing things just they don't do. And it's
funny because you know, we hear Mike mcconabay like, oh,
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we've never you know, that's a play you just never see.
And then we asked Riek about it, and I pope
the quotes I won't get wrong. He says, I'm just fast.
I chase it down the balls in the air and
I caught it. That was it, Like it's oh okay,
but wait, did it start with shoes? Probably I might
not transcribed the shoot, but yeah, he just said he
ran it over out and I'm just fast, Like it's
so simple when you run a four to two forty
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right right.
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Speaker 1 (24:22):
Back to you, Jen and John, Thank you Scott.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, we talked about Rik wolland we've talked about what
this defense can do. Last week. I let you go
first on what you wanted to see, and you stole mine.
So I am going first this week, and I want
to see over one hundred and twenty yards on the
ground by the team, by the Seahawks, so we can
divide that up. However, that needs to get divvied up
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among running backs and and playmakers. Tool threat quarterbacks. Yes,
because I want Jacoby Prisett to have to throw the ball.
Last week, the Patriots quarterback completed fifteen of twenty four
for one hundred and twenty one yards. He didn't have
to throw the ball very much because Stevenson was running.
But I want to force them into those situations. So
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that Reek and Spoon, I mean three takeaways by the
Seahawks defense could have been a lot more last year.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it was Dotson had
an interception, he could have had their Spoon could have
had a couple. There was Julian Love force to fumble
that they got a lucky bounce on went right back
to him that they still got turnover on that drive.
So yeah, there's there's opportunity there for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So I need to see over one hundred and twenty
rushing yards to begin with, and this might be taking years.
I need to see clean football.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I'm kind of piggybacking off what we just talked about,
but I want to see two takeaways because we did
not see a turnover from the Patriots last week. Because
you know, Mike McDonald talked about this with Brissette he's
not like he's kind of what you might call a
journeyman quarterback. He's not necessarily in a while guys with
what he does. But he's a really smart football player,
and he's doing what they want. Now we're just being
smart taking care of the football. So this ties into
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what you said, have like stop the run, make them
throw it. But if he can, if they can do that,
you know, just get to get a couple of takeaways.
Other side of it, I just want to see the
offense function cleaner. Like early on I should say, I
think they did a really good jump and second that,
but just don't get yourself the self inflicted, you know,
first down, just get a few yards. You go back
and watch that game. Their first ten possessions the Seahawks,
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four of them they got any positive yards. We're talking
two yards run. They scored on all four. The other
ten or the other six of those ten went backwards
on the first play, either a tackle for loss, a sack,
or a penalty.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So just don't start off in that hole. And I
think this offense can do some good things.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, and control the time of possession is going to
help against again, a defensive minded team in the Patriots.
We will see how those things play out on Sunday,
the first road trip, the first ten am start for
the Seahawks this season, and they've been pretty good. By
the way. Your final note, the Seahawks have been twenty four.
They have won twenty four of their life thirty five
games on that early time spot. So let's look for
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
What an opening week for the Seahawks. Maybe a little
bit more drama than we might have liked, John Boyle,
but everything ends well when there is a w involved
and you can just take week one is maybe just
a learning lesson, right. We are not among the people
that get paid to overreact after one game. There's a
lot of people who get paid to overreact. We are
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not one of them. We are looking for trends, facts
and what we saw last week against Speak for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm reacting, I'm getting uts.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
We're getting crazy today. No, I can find things to
overreact about it just that's not generally No, that's not well,
let's not do that.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We could change it up one of these days, but
not today yet.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What did we take away from that game on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I mean, to me, obviously took away the defense played
really hard, really fast. You know, I know the opponents
are going to get tougher at some point, but just
very encouraging first signs from the defense.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's to me the biggest thing I.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Would say for me, the importance of the run game,
the ability to bounce back. And last week I said
I wanted to see how many people on offense we're
going to get involved. Nine different players got involved, which
to me, and outside of Ken Walker and Tyler Lockett,
was some big plays. It's not that everybody was filling
up the stat sheet, it's that it was diverse in
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some of the play calling and how people were involved
in the game.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean you saw like their touchdown to Zach
Sharboney is one catch of the game or second two catches,
but still like guy not doing a lot, but when
he got his chance, took advantage.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And yeah, they got a lot of weapons.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
No, I am not going to say that My face
was very neutral for the first few plays that the
offense was on the field.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Not the best start.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I try not to show a lot of reaction. I
might have shown a little bit more reaction that I
intended to. I think the biggest thing we learned about
this team was how they would react under pressure, and
it was pretty evident from the players and the coaches.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Nobody was getting flustered on the sideline when after the
pick or after the two safeties. The defense just said,
all right, we know we gotta do and then they
went out there and got to stop.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Yeah, we heard that from DK and also we heard
after the game multiple people pointed to Gino Smith being
the guy that kind of got everyone together, calmed him down.
I talked to Lake and Tomlinson in the locker room
on Wednesday, and he talked about that, like, look, teams,
some teams don't respond to that kind of start and
then conspiral on you, and then you know, the offense
can start pointing fingers and guys get mad and all that,
and they just stuck together fought through it. It was
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a pretty lousy start all around for that offense, but
they bounced back well well and.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
For this group with a brand new coaching staff, and
that was among one of the things to figure out,
and I heard it on both sides. The coaches wanted
to see how the players were going to respond, and
the players wanted to see how their coaches were going
to respond. And there was a couple of guys who
talked about that after the game in the locker room.
That was like, yeah, nobody panicked. And I will tell you, Gino,
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when he brought the entire team together, it wasn't a
yelling at. It was the reminder of this is who
we are. He got a lot of agreement. There was
a lot of guys that were nodding their heads. It
wasn't a tenor of frustration or this thing is, you know,
getting out of control in a hurry. I think that
that might be the biggest thing that we learned in
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week one and the thing that will serve this team
the best.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
No, I mean you obviously you didn't want to start
the game that way, but I think in the long
run that can actually be a good thing for this team.
Of like, hey, we faced some mostly self afflicted adversity
early on and fought through it and came out on
the better side of it in the second half.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, and I think you really did see kind of
the full team effort on that one. Here's what else
we saw for the first time we saw the players
off day change. Yeah, And I thought it was fascinating
to listen to Mike McDonald talk about how he reviews
tape and when he reviews film at the game. Yeah,
because the only thing I have ever seen from every
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coach I've ever covered is you get on the plane. Yeah,
everybody's downloaded and they're starting to go through tape.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, you walk around that plane after game and all
the coaches into the film. And some might still like that,
but that's not what.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Mike likes well, And so if you miss that, it's
Mike McDonald wants the emotion of the game to go away,
So on game days he just kind of goes home,
he regroups, and then it's the next day that he
goes and looks at the film. And for the players,
the off day, so there is one mandated off day.
This is across the whole entire NFL. For players, typically
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that day is Tuesday, at least it has been that
way for a really long time. Here with the Seahawks,
the players off day is now Monday, and they will
come in on Tuesday and start their work week. And
again this kind of goes back to Mike McDonald's philosophy
is painting just a little bit of the emotion.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Out of it.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
I'd say the main thing is to really just be
able to take a deep breath after the game and
then be able to move on. You know, that's the
main thing. Take the emotion out of it, be able
to kind of digest understand why you want, are lost,
where you need to improve. The guys get it the
next day, and then you're you know, you're once they
come in, you're kind of in next week's mode. There's
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no there's no like break, you know, say, this is
what happened, Let's move on. Okay, Now it's like an
extended week on that next opponent.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I kind of like that idea of your just you're
already on to the next week by Tuesday, as opposed
to in the past you sort of have if you
take the Tuesday off, which a lot of teams around
the league, do you sort of Monday sort of like, hey,
we're looking back at the previous game and then Wednesdays
when that shift happens. So the way Mike SE's like, yeah,
we're kind of getting a little head start on the week.
I'll be curious to hear how players feel later on,
because this does eliminate sort of the idea like sometimes
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coach like to surprise players with, oh, take Monday off
and it turns into two days off after a win.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Now that I don't extra victory day off. Now we'll shue.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Mike has surprised them a few times and canceled meetings
and canceled practices, so I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
That he will find a way out of one of
these days.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm sure that he will find a way to reward
them and that defense. I mean, look, I'm not going
to hand out stars too early in the season, but
they definitely deserve some credit and a reward. How about
thirteen first downs allowed by that defense. That is the
fewest in a game since twenty twenty, and ten of
Denver's fifteen offensive possessions and did in either a three
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and out or a turnover. Now, I think some of
that is a rookie quarterback. Yeah, I think some of
that is you started to see what this defense can do.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, exact.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I mean again, it's gonna get harder as the season
goes along. You're going to face some more experienced quarterbacks,
some more dynamic offenses. But I mean, just what does
translate regardless of the opponent is how guys tackled. How
they were just swarming to the ball every time you denver,
they were checking the ball down a lot. And that
strategy can work really well if you can make a
guy miss or two. But they just weren't able to
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break tackles. And with that, it was just you know,
short gay and short gay and tackle for loss. And
it is really exciting to see a defense play like that.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
This week, you were going to see two defensive minded
head coaches. You were going to see two very young coaches.
You were going to see two defensive minded teams because
the New England Patriots are coming off a surprising win
against Cincinnati, and they too, only allowed thirteen first downs,
they allowed seventy rushing yards. And here's the big picture
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question that I wrote down for you, John, because we
heard the message that Mike McDonald gave the team was essentially,
the team that makes the fewest mistakes is going to
win in this one. Do you think that is always
the case when you have two defensive driven teams?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I mean not always, but it definitely plays a huge factor.
And it's why so many teams focus so much on turnovers,
Like you look at the turnover differential that decides a
ton of games. So I think, you know, in a
game like this, it's probably one of the biggest factors.
But I wouldn't say always. I mean, sometimes you might
just have such a talent disparity that you can get
away with some mistakes. But yeah, I think in this game,
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being the cleaner team is going to be a big difference.
And so I mean for the CX offense, that means
eliminating a lot of what we saw in the first half.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Do you think there is more of an advantage to
being a defensive minded head coach than an offensive minded
head coach or vice versa. I know that the league
has shifted a little bit, and I feel like every
couple of years, this is a conversation you and I have.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
I mean, to me, that's the offense versus defensive minded
is almost overrated. And I think maybe that's where sometimes
teams get in trouble making highers because they're not they're
looking more at scheme than the coach, the person, the leader.
And that's to me, that's the hard part to capture,
and that's I mean it's very early. We can't crown
anybody yet. But I think what gets overlooked about Mike
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McDonald because of his you know, defensive brilliance, is a
big part of why he got this job was, you know, the.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Way he leads, the way he teaches, and things like that.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
And that's I mean, that's something we talk about with
Pete Carroll a lot, is like, it's not that he
I mean, he was a great defensive mind, but it's
that he was able to lead and motivate in a
way very few human beings can. And that's that, I
think is why we see so many failures in coaching
hires is you're just like, this guy runs a cool offense,
they score a lot of points, he's a head coach,
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or you're.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Trying to think four steps down the road, which you
kind of have to do. But remember before the hiring
people are trying to figure out I mean, if you
hire an offensive coordinator or defense like who leaves first?
And then what does that do for the rest of
the team. And you're like, how about if you just
focus on the task at hand, which is this year, yeah,
and making sure that things are Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like what you outlined is that everyone fears of losing Shanahan.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
That's what that scenario is is the Falcons had dan
Quin's head coach and Kyle Shanahan was this hot coordinator
and that one worked out obviously very well for the foreigners.
But a lot of these hot young coordinators they're not
ready to be head coaches. And that's where you know, again,
I think teams get into trouble. And so the Seahawks
didn't look at Okay, we need an offensive guy. They
went out and said, who's going to be the best
leader for this team?
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it's going to be a fascinating matchup. Of course,
I don't think the players necessarily see it the same
way we do, because when we're looking at this, it
is a defensive matchup and it is strength against strength
because small sample size. Both teams want to run the
ball and they're going to play really good defense. Although
for the Patriots with Drod Meyo on staff, they finished
top five in that defense in like the last what
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six years five years that he's been on staff. Last year,
the Patriots allowed just three point three rushing yards per carry,
that is the fewest in the NFL. They picked up
where they left off this last week with just seventy
yards rushing by the Bengals, And some of that could
be ski, some of it could be players, or maybe
it's a combo.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I think it's the players that they have very well
coached obviously, but they play tough, they have good players,
they play hard. All the fundamentals just go right down
the list. Check check, check, play square, get off blocks,
what it takes to play really good run defense, numbers,
back it up, tape backs it up. So we had
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a great challenge ahead of us.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
Yeah, I mean that's I think you can kind of
hear the admiration for Mike mcdalden, like when teams play
this style, like I think he really enjoys that of
like they're going to make it hard on us. They're
going to be tough and physical and all those things
that he wants to be as well. So yeah, I
think we say all this and it's going to be
forty two to thirty nine or something, because that's football
is just done like that. But yeah, no, I mean stylistically,
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I think there's a lot of similarity in the way
these coaches want to do it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think that also if you just feed ken Walker,
good things happen. What I really like last week in
the run game is that they stuck with it in
the second half. It's exactly what Mike McDonald said going
in at halftime, we got to run the ball more,
and they did. Yeah, And how many times have we
heard that, and for various reasons, it just doesn't play
out that way. But for a first time play caller
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in Grub at the NFL level, right to do that
and to stick with it, And I think some of
that is just making is ken Walker just doing what
he does.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
It changed the game, oh for sure.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And I think it helped that offensive line it going too,
because like we saw early on when there were some
issues with the pass protection, and you know, it's hard
for an offensive line sometimes to sort of find its
rhythm if they can't run the ball and get downhill.
So I think it helped all those guys get going.
It obviously just helped offenses the whole function. And you know,
look a lot of keeping running the you know, when
you say let's keep our eye mouth, you got to
get some first downs doing it, and they did. Because
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if you if you commit to the run and you're
getting two yards of carry and you're hunting.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So it's that they came up with some cool run schemes.
Ken Walker did his thing and it was it was
fun to watch.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It might be difficult to do that again this week.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
It'll be hard, Yeah, I mean, this is much better
run defense statistically that and just based on their past
and the talent they have, it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
What's your level of concern on the offensive line.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
I don't think as high as the casual fan who
just panics and sees. I mean that I'm not trying
to share your coat. That first half was bad. I
mean two safeties that are both largely on the offensive line.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You had, you know, the you go.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
First three drives were sack, false start on offensive lineman,
hold on an offensive lineman, and that's I mean, that's
basically your first three drives were killed right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So it wasn't good early.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
But a couple of reasons I'm confident is A it
got better as the game and along B you're playing
with a center, which is one of the most important
positions on offense in terms of what he has to do,
who joined the team in mid August and then didn't
start practicing really until late August. So it's like, I'm
not saying Connor Williams isn't ready to play and he's
not an awesome player. It's that everyone around him. They
got to figure all that out together. So I think
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that elem of the communication side of it. Those guys
kind of playing is a unit that's all going to
get better too. So look, there's lots to clean up.
They know that, But I'm more confident, I think than
a lot of people who just watch that first half
and wanted to throw things at their TV.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well, that is also your job.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
John.
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Speaker 3 (14:56):
So when it comes to the Patriots, there's a few
guys and a few names to watch out for. I
have avoided saying demandre Stevenson's name for a little bit
because his numbers were really impressive last week against Cincinnati.
That is the running back for the Patriots. John It
was one hundred and twenty yards. But there's a little
bit more to that story. He forced ten miss tackles.
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Ken Walker forced eight miss tackles. The only player who
forced more was Stevenson. As a result of those ten
miss tackles. Would you like to know how many yards
he gained after contact?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I'm gonna guess it was a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
He gained one hundred and eighteen of his one hundred
and twenty yards after contact.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, Hey, if you want to put a silver line
out from the Sioux, that means there's some.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Abil ability to get to him early. You just got
to bring him down. Well, that means that means two
yards before contact.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Jenny, you gotta really really you gotta be on that.
You know who I was talking to about this. We'll
hear from Mike McDonald in just a second. But Trey
Brown was his teammate at Oklahoma, and I said, so,
what was it like, Like, did you always know he
goes Oh, yeah, man, Lake. He is really quick off
the first step. He has got great balance. And here's
the thing. He is such a large person. You think
(16:16):
that every time he runs it you he's just going
to run you over. But he doesn't. And that's what's scary.
He just kind of jukes you on, goes around and
he was like, no, it's crazy. He is always going
to fall forward for a couple of extra yards. So
I think Trey might be given his teammates a few
tips on there.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, but no, that's that's going to be the big test.
It's like, we didn't see the run.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
The run defense held that fine last week, but we
didn't see them get tested to nearly this level, both in.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Terms of commitment to it and the running back talent.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
So this is going to be a great early test
to see how we saw this scheme like Austin as
the past, we saw turnovers, interceptions, but now we gotta
see him kind of get tough against our own.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Well and to do that here is what Mike McDonald
is expecting.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
It's about I mean, it's about space and angles. You know,
you have to understand, you know, the angle that you
need to take, especially with you know, with the runners
that New England has, and it's about getting multiple hats
of the party because you know they're big physical backs
that fall forward and there's a huge difference between making
contact you know, a yard or two pass Lina Shrimage
and falling forward for four versus making contact there. And
(17:19):
now there's multiple guys at the party in New England
does a good job of kind of getting a hat
for the hat. So there's a lot of one on
one matchups are going to be happening that we're gonna
have to win in order to have success.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I like the term at the party.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I do.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Like that because I always think at the party like
at the quarterback, Like you're meeting at the quarterback for
a party. I would say a couple of names to
keep in mind. First of all, Leonard Williams, right, who
was really active but kind of got overshadowed by everything else.
Happening on the back end of the defense. He still
had four quarterback hits. I believe it was also we
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don't talk very much about Jonathan Hankins. Yeah, that may
has quite possibly the biggest legs I have ever seen.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And that's what Byron Murphy on this I know.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
I know, I felt really good about the leg day
that I had in the gym this week, and then
I happened to turn and I watched and Hankins has
legs that are like tree trunks. And I said, out
of curiosity, how much do you squat? And he looked
at me and he goes, well, I can't squat with
a bar over my neck anymore. You want to know why,
because he leg presses about six hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh, bend the bar.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
If he he would bend the bar and hurt himself. Yeah,
large man middle of the line. I look for him,
Iron Murphy. Yes, did you put you have like two
trees in the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
No, I mean that's it wasn't a big splashy signing
when they got Hankins. But these are the kind of
games you go out and get him for, and that
there's a reason, you know, they said early on after
that signing that Aden Dirday, the former defensive line coach
in Dallas. His coach was like, we need this kind
of guy here, and they brought him in. There's gonna
be games that John then Hankins doesn't play a ton
if you're if you're tam spread it out and throwing
(19:01):
the barm. But games like this, he's going to have
a huge, huge role.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Well, and he is now a twelve year vet. He
told me last week his goal was always to play
ten years, and I said, really, you know, most guys
picked like a smaller window of time, you know, like
three to four. He goes, no, I just ten felt
really good. It felt like something not very many people do.
And after I hit ten, you know, I still f good.
So people kept calling me. I'm like, oh, and he
(19:25):
is like pressing six hundred and fifty pounds. Here's another
name that I think we need to keep an eye on.
Kyle Dugger. He is a former teammate of Drek Young
at Leonore Ryan. And when Drek and I were talking
this week, like did you always know he goes yeah,
because I would practice against him and he's doing things
that nobody in d two should do. And so the
(19:45):
conversations had like why don't you transfer? You could go
and do this at a big D one school, and
apparently Dougar said, Oh, I think I can accomplish my
goals right here at Lenoir Ryan. So you've got two
of the most I guess famous athletes to come out
of that program are in the NFL. They're gonna be
on the field together today. Kyle Duggar had a forced
fumble last week, a couple of huge red zone plays,
(20:07):
and I think he's one of those key pieces back
there for the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, they got a few on defense again, that's that's
a talented defense. And Keon White's coming along two and
a half sacks in the opener, and good young players.
So there's not a bunch of big like all pro
household names, but this is you know, they did a
good job rebuilding that defense and they're gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, and Keyon White those two and a half sacks,
he had one all of last year one, So that
was a massive jump and performance and very active just
across that entire front. How about a player who stood
out last week on this defense, which is tough to do.
I mean you had Julian Love, you had the linebackers
(20:47):
who played like they had been playing together for years,
but it actually was their first game on the field together.
Reek Woolen and that interception. Yeah, and really just following
through on what we saw in training camp, because that
was one of my big kind of question marks and
one of the things I wanted to see. Turns out
that training camp it wasn't just about showing us what
he could do. It was getting back to what he
(21:09):
knew he could.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Do a lot better, just because I actually got to
work on my whole body. You know, I wasn't rehabbing
before a season. You know, usually guys trained before the season.
They're don't rehabbing, you know, guys building their bodies. Well,
you know, I had to rehab my knee and strengthen
my legs, and you know I was I feel like
I didn't focus on, you know, my whole body rather
(21:31):
than this all season. You know, before a camp, I
got to you know, train and you know, have a
healthy body, you know, work on my legs, my upper
body and stuff like that. So I was like, that's
probably the biggest difference.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's always nice when we all think we see something
in training camp of like, oh, this player's really coming
through and they look like they're every good season and
then just.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Immediately goes out and validates it, like he had.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Of all the players we watching camp, who was like,
who's gonna make a leap, probably like him and Charles Cross,
who also played awesome this week by the way, two
of the guys just like, Okay, that guy's looks looks
like he's played in another level right now.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
And to see Reek immediately go out and do that,
And it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Because like players, coaches, everyone like just raves about that
play because it's he makes it look pretty routine. He's
washing it, Okay, ran and picked the ball, but like
when you're giving that inside leverage touris, you're like, that's
not a play cornerbacks are supposed to make. Pete Carroll
us to talk about this too, with Reek as a rookies,
like he's doing things just they don't do. And it's
funny because you know, we hear Mike mcconabay like, oh,
(22:31):
we've never you know, that's a play you just never see.
And then we asked Riek about it, and I pope
the quotes I won't get wrong. He says, I'm just fast.
I chase it down the balls in the air and
I caught it. That was it, Like it's oh okay,
but wait, did it start with shoes? Probably I might
not transcribed the shoot, but yeah, he just said he
ran it over out and I'm just fast, Like it's
so simple when you run a four to two forty
(22:51):
right right.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
I know, I wish I knew what life was like.
I really I wish I knew what that life was like.
You know what? That is going to play into what
I want to see in this week's game. But before
we get to that, how about if we hear from
our fantasy insider Scott Engel.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Thanks Jenn and John quick hitting fantasy football tips for
Week two Marnseeahawks dot Com on the Fantasy Insider tab.
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focused for Week two at wide receiver be patients early
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Speaker 1 (24:22):
Back to you, Jen and John, Thank you Scott.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Okay, we talked about Rik wolland we've talked about what
this defense can do. Last week. I let you go
first on what you wanted to see, and you stole mine.
So I am going first this week, and I want
to see over one hundred and twenty yards on the
ground by the team, by the Seahawks, so we can
divide that up. However, that needs to get divvied up
(24:47):
among running backs and and playmakers. Tool threat quarterbacks. Yes,
because I want Jacoby Prisett to have to throw the ball.
Last week, the Patriots quarterback completed fifteen of twenty four
for one hundred and twenty one yards. He didn't have
to throw the ball very much because Stevenson was running.
But I want to force them into those situations. So
(25:08):
that Reek and Spoon, I mean three takeaways by the
Seahawks defense could have been a lot more last year.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it was Dotson had
an interception, he could have had their Spoon could have
had a couple. There was Julian Love force to fumble
that they got a lucky bounce on went right back
to him that they still got turnover on that drive.
So yeah, there's there's opportunity there for sure.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
So I need to see over one hundred and twenty
rushing yards to begin with, and this might be taking years.
I need to see clean football.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I'm kind of piggybacking off what we just talked about,
but I want to see two takeaways because we did
not see a turnover from the Patriots last week. Because
you know, Mike McDonald talked about this with Brissette he's
not like he's kind of what you might call a
journeyman quarterback. He's not necessarily in a while guys with
what he does. But he's a really smart football player,
and he's doing what they want. Now we're just being
smart taking care of the football. So this ties into
(26:03):
what you said, have like stop the run, make them
throw it. But if he can, if they can do that,
you know, just get to get a couple of takeaways.
Other side of it, I just want to see the
offense function cleaner. Like early on I should say, I
think they did a really good jump and second that,
but just don't get yourself the self inflicted, you know,
first down, just get a few yards. You go back
and watch that game. Their first ten possessions the Seahawks,
(26:27):
four of them they got any positive yards. We're talking
two yards run. They scored on all four. The other
ten or the other six of those ten went backwards
on the first play, either a tackle for loss, a sack,
or a penalty.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So just don't start off in that hole. And I
think this offense can do some good things.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yeah, and control the time of possession is going to
help against again, a defensive minded team in the Patriots.
We will see how those things play out on Sunday,
the first road trip, the first ten am start for
the Seahawks this season, and they've been pretty good. By
the way. Your final note, the Seahawks have been twenty four.
They have won twenty four of their life thirty five
games on that early time spot. So let's look for
(27:02):
that success to continue, and let's look forward to seeing
you back here next week for another edition of the
Seahawks Insiders podcast. Shut
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