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May 1, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Adam rank on NFL has put
together his flex rankings one through one fifty in Fantasy Football.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh, coming out of the draft, okay, just generic. Yeah,
i'n't given this a lot of thought yet.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Either, he's got Saquon Barkley number one.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I guess I can't fight that. B Jon Robinson number
two gonna be your second. I think so number two overall,
not just second back like number two over all. Right,
I'm not sure I take him over Chase Jefferson. I
don't know. This is new to me. I have not
given it a lot of thought.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
At three, he has Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Okay, we just want the triple crown and nothing should
really change that much for him.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
At four, Pokah Nikua.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I don't think Adams helps him.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't think it does either.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
I think he's a first round pick, but I have
a hard time using a fourth oat I take Jefferson
ahead of him. I might take Lamb ahead of him and.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
The style that pok he missed time last year. We've
forgotten this.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I mean, who else is gonna catch passes other than
Ceedee Lamb? I mean I'm taking Lamb over in Nikua.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Five is Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, I don't really even care whose quarterback is. I
mean it's it'll be fine, hasn't seemed. Six is ceed
Lamb okay. Seven Molik Neighbors very wide receiver heavy here.
Neighbors got so many targets and they didn't change much.
I mean they didn't end up with Hunter or anything.

(01:54):
Neighbors are Nikua neighbors for me. I think neighbors just
Adams is good at the band target right, and they
draft the title.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
They like to run the football.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah yeah yeah uh.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Eight Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm a huge fan, but I think Hunter hurts him.
It hurts him, Yeah, definitely. I think they want to
run the football more. Yes, he'd be the last that
we've mentioned so far. We'll see who else who's behind him.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Nine Ashton Genty.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I would have him higher. I think he's closer to
Bijon than he is. Nine.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Ten is a mon Ross Saint Brown.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I'd have him over Niakua. I definitely have him over Thomas.
I mean he's that's a safer pick as you can make.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, eleven is Jamior.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Gibbs might also be too low.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Twelve is Drake London.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, I would have That's that's your what you're looking
at right now is your potential first round picks.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I got to tell you. I mean they're all good players. Yeah, yeah,
it's but it's almost like this year's draft.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Say, I'm who you thrilled to take? Were at their price?
I mean that happens every year when I like see
the first rankings, I'm like, oh, I don't I don't
want to pick in the first round anywhere? You know, No,
them were great? Yeah, and then you start warming up
to him, you realize, you know this is good.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean, you're going to have to make it right, right, right, right,
So you're going to take one of these guys.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And would you consider Bowers in the first round. No,
he's gotta be tight end one though, right, Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, but he's he's more of a round.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I don't think I'm taking them over Brian Thomas and
those type of guys.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, let's move on to the day. So thirteen is
Christian McCaffrey. That's a leap of that's a leap of faith,
all right. But like we said the same thing about
like Henry last year, Barkley. Fourteen is Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I think I'd take Henry over McCaffrey.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Fifteen lad mconkie.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Wow, he's there already. Yeah, off season was good to him.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Sixteen is Brough Bowers.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Okay, I assume McBride will be tight end too. Seventeen
is Nico Collins. Oh, I would rather have Nico guy.
I might rather have them like Brian Thomas. Yeah, I
know they have three other good receivers. Kirk in the
two eyes, but he used to do. But he's the dude.
That's a bargain rate there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Eighteen is AJ Brown. That's eleven receivers in the top eighteen.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
AJ Brown's so maddening because they just don't throw enough. Yeah,
that's his only deficiency.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Nineteen Kyron Williams. That's RB seven, consistent producer, good team
catches the ball.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, I never owned him anywhere though. Twenty his wide
receiver twelve Jackson Smith and Jigba Targets are gonna be
high a monster second half. Yeah, he's worthy of that.
Would you take him on Maconkey? Real similar? They're very similar. Yeah,
I might trust Smith and Jigma more.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Twenty one Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Pretty cheap, but I understand why. I mean, they have
no other pass catchers either. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I mean twenty two is Bucky Irving.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think I would have him higher. He did a
heck of a year, not much competition, good team, He's
gonna be the guy.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Twenty three is Breisee Hall. Yeah, get two Jets as high.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I know. That's why I was just sitting here thinking
it's like, well, their line looks like it's coming together.
But he was Jets in the top twenty three R
they're both good players. Twenty four is Chase Brown. I
can't quite get there on that.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Twenty five is T Higgins.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Bengals will put up points.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That's wide receiver fourteen though, like they're.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Gonna that's three Bengals the top twenty five. I traded
for T Higgins last year. Yeah, yeah, and there were
times when I'm like, why the hell did I do this?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
And this was after he was just coming back from injury. Yeah,
but there are times when Burrow gets the goggles on
and he doesn't look anywhere but Chase. Yeah, I know,
and it's like you're just sitting here going.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Right. He really good.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Higgins has one on one coverage. You're throwing the chase
with three guys on him.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah. I don't know if I could get Higgins this high.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
They're they're kind of number one receivers out there who
are the only game in town. On their teams, they're
gonna get more, They're gonna get more targets, and we
have mentioned like Tyreek Hill, right, they're going to get more.
To understand why, but wow. Twenty six Trey McBride. That's
tight end two.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
They ain't catch any touchdowns, but I think that doesn't
It should be my tight end too too.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Twenty seven is Dj Moore.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Oh, I think that was kind of a shot across
the bow when they drafted Burden. Twenty I think a
Don's roll is gonna grow and they have a first
round tight end.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Twenty eight is Tyreek.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I think I'm buying at that price. Here's here's a
guy like McCaffrey. This next guy would definitely take over,
uh T.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Higgins. Twenty nine is Terry McLaurin. Yeah, he's he's it.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I'd take both Bucks receivers over him. Yeah, Like, how
is McLaurin blow the number two receiver on Ebo doesn't
scare me? No, I mean that's not enough to be
mclaurin's gonna he's gonna get pencil it in now he's
got ninety plus catches. McLaurin should probably a second rounder. Yeah,
that's a really safe pick.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
To classically undervalued every every year thirty Devin chan Nop.
Not for me.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
The running backs are not nice right here, you know,
like Chase Brown. I think a lot of those rookies
coming into the league. I know I wanted to avoid
teams that have the rookies. Some of those some of
those dudes are gonna be he's gonna right. Yeah, at
least Miami didn't take one. Well, they took one late,
but he did that. Yeah, they took they took Ollie Gordon. Yeah,

(07:48):
I'd say they took a big one.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But a chance showed you last year he's not He's
not an every down runner.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, that's what I was about saying.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Watching him run into the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Used him as a lineback and at least Gordon's.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Gonna take it, just like there was a force field there.
He would bounce back off.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Like Michael, what do you even ask again? Is he
a good coach?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Thirty one Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
I'd take him way higher. Yeah, he doesn't catch a ton,
and I'm sure everyone's like, that's RB twelve. I'm taking
him over brown a Chan. I'd probably take him at
least a round higher than where they they're talking about.
Thirty two is really good. Yeah, thirty two is Mike Evans.
That's he's like McLaurin.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, classically undervalued.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
We know he gets a thousand yards every years.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
He's gonna fall off the cliff. But right, and Aguca
doesn't scare me. He's not getting any shorter, he's not
getting any less physical.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Baker doesn't like him any less. I mean catches touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
H thirty three Marvin Harrison Junior.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
I could see a bounce back. I mean not that
it was terrible, but I could see him being a
little slept on.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Thirty four Josh Jacobs. That's RB thirteen. That's RB thirteen,
Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
He had to finish like five or six, right, Yeah,
I mean it's a little too much older running back bias.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Thirty five Kenneth Walker.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
It's another one I would bounce back on.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Thirty six. We have our first Steeler. Who do you
think it is?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Metcalf?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
He came Metcalf wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Twenty sounds about right, and I'm sure they won't be
super high pass percentage.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Thirty seven is running back fifteen David Montgomery.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Good offense and he scores. They can support two.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Thirty eight James Cook.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I'd have him a lot higher. I had a million
touchdowns which won't ever happen, not going.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
To happen again. But he catches the ball, and that's
a good good team.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Good team. I would have him way higher.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Thirty nine is DeVante Adams.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I don't think he fell off. I'm okay with that.
I would go higher on him.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Forty George Kittle was tight end three, probably should be.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
It's not Kelsey anymore. It's not Pitts. It's not definitely
not Pitts.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Andrews isn't even in the conversation.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
No he's not.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
But there's some other guys there.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
That that's why I could This is stuff isn't fresh
on my mind, but would you take Andrews or Kelsey?
Kelsey's not gonna play.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I don't know that I want either one of those
guys this.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Year over Kittle. I mean, are you cool with Kittle
or do you think I don't even know the Kittle's
will tight end. I haven't given it much thought either, right.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
But I mean we'll get we'll get to it. Courtland
Sutton at forty one.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Nick feeds them and they didn't add a receiver of note.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Roma Dunza at forty two.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
He didn't do much.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Chris Alave at forty three.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I think i'd have him higher. I mean, there's concussions.
Scared the heck guy.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
I don't trust him anymore with the concussion stuff, and
I don't know who the hell or quarterback is.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I think it's a lot like Eric Wilson though, plus injuries.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I try. I trust Justin Fields a lot more than
I trust whoever's quarterbated.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
I mean, and I like shock, but the Wilson was
going thirty picks higher. Yeah, uh Rashie Rice at forty
four if he's n't suspended. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Chuba Hubbard at forty five, that's too low.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
He's not a flashy dude. Yeah, he produces, and he's
their number one. Devonte Smith at forty six font his
fault days on the throat forty seven is Chris Godwin.
I don't know he's totally out of the woods injury wise,
but the contract implies he is. Yeah, he was a
monster before he got hurt.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Calvin Ridley at forty eight.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
I assume he's their leading receiver by a wide margin.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Forty nine Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Little two hit or miss.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, fifty DeAndre Swift.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
He's like the best. He got the luckiest it in
terms of not having a deal with a rookie run.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I don't love the player though.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
No, I don't think Johnson loved the player when they
were in Detroit together, right, they trade and get rid.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Of them just looking here. Fifty who is tight end
number three on here or tight end four?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I imagine pickings as soon too.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Tight End four is T. J. Hawkinson.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Fallow way down at sixty five though, Okay, so it's
really a three twenty five picks after Laporta is tight
end five.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I forgot what Laporta too. I'd buy him at that price.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
John Who Smith is tight end six. Johnny was pretty good,
Like he.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Was real good last year. That was one of my
dudes coming in last year.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Tight End seven is Evan Ingram at seventy nine, Mark
Andrews at tight end eight. I'd buy Andrews. I still
don't have Right Kelsey. David and Joku is tight end nine.
Travis Kelcey tight end ten at eighty three.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
He might not play a lot, but he's gonna be
there in the red zone stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, your other Steelers mentioned here. Jaylen Warren is sixty,
he's RB twenty five.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Do you have him? Would you take him over Johnson?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I would not.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
I think he'll catch more balls, but I think i'd
rather Johnson'd rather have Johnson. I was curious where the
rookie running backs are in general, Like you didn't mention
Hampton very high.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
None of them are rated very highly. On Trevon Henderson's
RB twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think what's his face in Denver should be pretty high.
I mean he's probably the opening day starter.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
George Pickens comes in at seventy third overalls wide receiver
thirty eight, pretty low. He's behind Georgetcafs twenty and he's
thirty eight. He's behind Jordan Addison is wide receiver thirty six.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, I would Tay Pickings.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Brandon ayuk is wide receiver thirty seven. He might not
even play this year. He's definitely a miss time. Khalil
shakiir Is wide receiver thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh, those are all George picks the wrong neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, George Pickens should be up at least one neighborhood there.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yeah, he's a receiver two or three? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Uh. If there's who else we got on here, Caleb
Johnson ninety six overall RB thirty six.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Just by the sounds of things, I would take a
lot of rookie running.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Backs just ahead of Javonte Williams and right behind tajap Years.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
It's not terrible neighborhood, but I think those running backs
in general, like where's Harvey at? Do you see him anywhere?
Handy or hamp that you're.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Asking Harvey seventy seven, Harby thirty one.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Some of these highly drafted running backs, rookie running backs
go are bargains fantasy.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Pat Friarmouth is tight end sixteen at one thirteen.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
I guess that's about right. Maybe i'd have him a
little higher and that might be it for our probably
probably for the Steelers. Let's see here, I'm not gonna
have a quarterback in the top one fifty. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
there weren't. Those are just flex rankings. There's no quarterbacks
we didn't get in. Oh, I said we didn't get
any quarterbacks. I guess that's what's right, right anyways, Okay,

(14:43):
that's a good first looked right, right.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
What's happening in fantasy football?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
The top doesn't seem super strong. I mean, the first
couple of picks do, but there I don't I find
to pick nine.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
They're good players, but I don't know if I want
to pay that price.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Right, Like, I have no problem taking Saque one or
Chase three or something like that. Sure, but I don't
know that I won't take Brian Thomas eleven.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
You know, if I got to take Justin Like last
year in our league, I took Justin Jefferson seven, you
took Chase eight. Yeah yeah, and we were both you know,
at that point, happy to get.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Them right, right, right? That's all better than the seventh
or eighth guy this year?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yeah, so interesting. Let's get to another break that's
going to do it for the Fantasy Football focus here
on the Drive. When we come back, I put out
the bat signal for the h Yeah, listener questions, we'll
get to those when we come back. He is Matt Williamson.
I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here
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Speaker 1 (15:41):
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Speaker 2 (15:52):
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
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I pick and choose the best ones. You answer like
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Speaker 3 (16:27):
Now, folks to be honest. Along with this, if you
ever have a segment idea, we'll consider it. You know,
I mean this time of year, are always looking for
stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
All right, So our first question here comes from Craig A.
Leech Senior, not to be confused with junior. Will the
Steelers ever retire another number, maybe twelve? Or are there
still hard feelings from the organization?

Speaker 3 (16:48):
This is more your style. There's a lot of options.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
There are a lot of options, and there are a
number of numbers that they don't give up as a
matter of fact, about right, Bob Labriola answered that very
question today asked to answered, which is why you downloaded
Steelers mobile acts. You can get that, okay. So here
are the numbers that they don't give out in addition
to it, and including the retired numbers. They haven't given

(17:11):
out seven. No one's worn it since since Yeah he
hasn't been that long, but they have given it out.
They haven't given out twelve. This is all true for
camp too, right, Yeah, yeah, thirty two is obviously retired.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yes, they haven't given out thirty six. Really okay, they
haven't given out forty three. They haven't given out fifty two.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Ever, that's been a long time too. Yeah, they haven't
given out fifty eight, fifty nine. They haven't given out
fifty nine since nineteen eighty four. Todd seabaw was assigned
to number for the eighty four season, and they haven't
done that since.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I think.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I think it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
Silly the others. Yeah, they illustrious Todd Seabaugh.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
They haven't given out sixty three.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
I was curious about that one. Oh line could be top.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
That's their money for those young uns that don't know
that one. They obviously seventy for Ernie Stautner is retired,
seventy five for Joe Green is retired. And they haven't
given out eighty six.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Really, okay, I know eighty eight and eighty two have
gone out. Yeah, you'll see them at camp. Eighties could
be tough too, I mean he I mean, there's no
line in the problem is there's only so many numbers
that you can have, but you're that good and they
don't want to get They're not going to give out one.
They don't believe.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
They don't believe in giving somebody the number one because
guys would fight over it.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Will they give up with? Will they do zero?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
They haven't.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
They haven't. I don't think either. Yeah. Do you think
anyone else will be retired soon soon? Who would it be?
I mean all those ones you listed, I mean they
went twenty years between Joe Green's number being maybe longer
than that between Joe Green and Franco Harris.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Is nobody's being retired.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't think there's any rush.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
I would think one of the quarter would be next
if by chance.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
And these numbers are all but retired.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
You don't see him running around on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, except in the stands because lots of people are
still weare of them. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, I Ham Sandwich asked,
what's up with TJ's contract? TJ watch contract extension? Does
it need to happen this offseason? If we signed Rogers
for say twenty million, do we have the money to
extend TJ and pay him forty million? It's going to

(19:26):
happen this offseason. Yeah, those things always happen during training camp.
The Rogers thing is completely separate from that. They do matter.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
They have plenty of money.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
The money is they've my last check, I think they
had thirty two million dollars in salary cap space. They
need like nine and change for rookies to sign their rookies,
which is why I kind of raise my eyes at
you with the whole uh trading.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
For Jalen Ramsey conversation.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, yeah, because you can't sign a quarterback and trade
for Jalen Ramsey. It's just can't.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Happen unless you restructure. Guys.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, you have to get crazy as a lot of stuff,
move a lot of money around. But what and rogers
have nothing to do with each other. Those things are
both factored into the equation. And watch Deeal wouldn't kick
in this year.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Anyway, That's what it says. I bet what might even
lower if you signed him today, he might have a
less of a hit this year than if you wanted to. Yeah,
if you need the money right for Jayalen Ramsey.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Don't start that stuff again. You know how rumors started.
That's where it started. Anyways, Who's next? Butch asked, has this?
Has the team ever made multiple picks in the first round?

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Rickets? Right?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, they had was an eighty five draft. I believe
they had traded Merriweather.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah yeah, and I can't remember who else the first
round pick was that year, but I think that's the
only time. Yeah I can remember. Yeah, yeah, prior to
maybe in the fifties or whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Man, prior to that, they always trade the way they're
Josiah Jones asks why do the Steelers wait so long
to make moves? I feel it is a bad practice
to wait until the last possible moment. Moment the Bengals
waited to extend Chase, and it cost them a lot
of a lot more. The Steelers have waited to extend TJ.
And now Garrett's contract is going to drive that price up,

(21:21):
but we don't know that yet. A. But B they
all they don't make any moves until they have to
make a move. And it's just the way that they've
they do business. It's a way that they've always done business.
And in the long run, I think they've made out
more on that than they've been hurt by it.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Gather more information, A guy could decline, an injury could happen,
somebody can come on, you know, So.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Look at it this way. So one of the things
that Carl Dunbar talked about after the draft or after
they took the outside linebacker from my house. Yeah, when
they took Sawyer and they did take into two defensive linemen.
He said, look, we want to play these guys less.
We're gonna play our star guys less so that they're
fresher in the fourth quarter. Well, you know, so that

(22:08):
could be something that they factor into the TJ wat contract, Like, look,
hey TJ, we love you. We can't pay you forty
million dollars a year. We're going to knock your snapcount
back to seventy percent. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I wouldn't love hearing that. If I were Tim trying
to think of I'm sure he would.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
But it's part of It's all part of the negotiations.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, negotiations aren't always kind, right, I'd be like, well,
then I'll play ninety percent. I mean I could do whatever.
I'm going to do. Whatever ask me. I mean, are
you going to give me a raise the day high
Smith gets hurt and I got to play one hundred percent?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
No, No, But I mean again, this was all part
of the contract negotiations, and you have more information at
hand at that point. For example, I was listening to
Serious ExM and they had the former Jets GM on. Yeah, yeah,
who is on with Jimmy Miller? I can name escapes
me right now? A lot of names escape me right now. Anyways,
he's talking about how he was negotiating with a running

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back when he was with the Jets, and it was
right before the draft, and they were they had made
a contract offer to said running back. Running back comes
into the office, He calls him in, he says, he says, look,
I'm going to show you our running back board. These
are the guys that we have first round grades on.
Didn't say what year it was. These are the five
or six guys we have first round grades on. Either

(23:24):
you're going to sign the contract now or we are
going to draft one of.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
These guys, right, which is it's how you negotiate. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sure, like I've heard, like baseball arbitration's
nastiest could be you know, Oh yeah, I mean like
mean stuff. Back to the question though, it's just the league.
I mean TJ aside.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I don't know if TJ were also signing contract extensions
right now, right, I mean, just because the Browns do
business one way doesn't mean you really do you really
want to do business the way the Browns do business
is what it comes down to.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
And yeah, they waited on Chase, but it wasn't like
they spent that much more on him. I mean, it's
gonna cost you one where the premium premium dudes, whenever
they come up, we're gonna make a little more than
the guy before. I'm a little less than the guy
after him. And it's just I don't think they wait
exceedingly long.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I mean, were they supposed to sign TJ. Watt the
day after the season ended, right when he still got
another year left on his contract.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Or even like last year Cam Hayward signed a deal. Yeah,
well the timing wasn't bad on that, right, you know
what I mean, most of the deals they make, it's
not like, Man, they waited way too long to get that.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And quite frankly, I mean this is I'm not this
is nothing against TJ. Watt, But if he plays out
his contract, let's say they don't get an extension agreed
to this year, well think a franchise.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
At the end of the year, right exactly, so he
again the bargaining. They had the bargaining power, and franchising
might even be cheaper.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
It might be.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
I always talked about with Aaron Donald, and he was
in the prime of his powers. There weren't any the
five defensive tackles that would be lumped in with him.
It's the biggest bargain ever to franchise Donald at that price.
If he was that good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Uh. Heshan asked, Hey, guys, if Cole Holcomb is fully
healthy and what situations do you see him out on
the field. Is he better in pass coverage than Peyton Wilson? No?
Or will he be coming him when Wilson or Queen
need a breather. Yes, Queen didn't do much of that,
though Queen didn't. He never came off to the field
of field. Also, barring injuries, could he be a mid
season trade candidate maybe if someone came on. I has

(25:24):
to show that he's capable of playing.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm sure he'll get a lot
of preseason snaps and they'll be taped to prove.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
He's healthy, and there'll be times when he's out there.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah. I don't know. Well, I don't think it'll be
like Roberts though. It's not going to be a straight split. No, No,
I would be shocked. I think Wilson's going to be
pretty close in every down.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, and Holcomb gets twenty five percent of the snaps
here and there, Yeah, when everyone's healthy.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Gordon Deadman asked, when are they announcing the date of
the Dublin game? Thanks, if you can let Steelers worldwide.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
No, you have an answer on that. I don't know when.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean the schedule comes. The schedule comes out May
fourteenth now typically in the past, and I say it
typically right.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah, a couple of weeks. I always stinks up on me.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
They have announced the international games ahead of ahead of
the schedule, but they don't typically tell you when the
schedule is coming out either, which they did at the
draft this year, which makes me wonder if they're changing
things up a little bit. The league doesn't tell the teams, hey,
this is when we're going to announce these things. You
kind of have a general idea when that's coming.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So it's safe to say at the latest two weeks
from now you'll know, yes, but probably before.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't know if they're going to announce them ahead
of time this year because I think they used the
draft this year, because they stopped in the middle of
the first round and announced, hey, we're gonna have the
schedule release on May fourteenth. They never used to tell
you that. Okay, okay, I mean how many times said
they're going, well, the schedule should be out this week,
and then they have to push it back a week
because there's conflicts.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I gotcha, So well weeks you're going to know?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, Shane, ass are we going to the super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I lean towards no, but crazier things have happened.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Get the magic a ball out? Assuming no major injuries
in the dime, I know, not a safe assumption. What
percentage of snaps does Harmon play this season.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
In the dime?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
D line or D line? I'm sorry, I just read that. Yeah,
d Lin, he's probably at least I mean, Ogunjobi played
forty percent of the snaps. I was going to say
right around I think it was like forty four percent.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I very much think reducing cam is real. Yeah, which
could open up a little more percentage.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It's probably right around fifty percent.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, forty to fifty I would say. Yeah, someone to say, yeah,
assuming he's the player, you think if he shows he's
better than that, then he'll get more. H Yeah, that
sounds fair. Yeah, you'll be happy with that favorite pick
from this past weekend as R. J. Poyer, Well, we've
already both said one, two, three, Johnson.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, Yeah, Matt loves Johnson. Michael Edesso, I can't get
over how perfect they fit Caleb Johnson is in this offense.
We were kind of worried that they were going for
more speedback sacrificing sacrificing size, but he really is the
best of both worlds. His breakaway speed is shocking to me,

(28:19):
and his tape is full of explosive plays.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Thoughts, totally great. I think.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I think he fits very well in this offense, and
I couldn't believe he was still there at eighty three
right now.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I think they got pretty fortunate with that. Ye had
to be sweating it out.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Andrew Kwaikowski asked, at what point do you think it's
vital for Rogers to be in during the offseason program
so it won't be detrimental to the team OTAs or
mini camp if he's in at some point during the OTAs,
I'm fine with it. Yeah, they don't start, they start,
I think what may twenty first, so basically three weeks,
three weeks from now.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Obviously this camp coming up doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
This is a rookie camp. He can't even attend anywhere, right,
he can't even go Other than that, it's just working
out with the teammates and stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I'd like to get him signed a day or two
before OTAs.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah, I mean, if it extends, be on that. I honestly, I.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Don't know that it's a deal breaker. I'm mad about it.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But not really because now you've got your rookie quarterback.
First of all, Mason Rudolph, while he has been in
Pittsburgh doesn't know this system at all. He needs time, right,
he needs time. You got a rookie quarterback who's going
to need a bunch of time.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Oh a lot. He's gonna get a lot of preseason.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
And so I'm okay with again, as long as Aaron
Rodgers isn't in Egypt during mini camp, I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah. Well, if he's unsigned, I don't care where he is.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, but if he is, if he isned, like he's
signed a deal, you're in a mandatory mini camp. You
were here.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah. I don't know how much he has to participate
in those things, but like them be in the building.
Yeah right, okay, so that's sort of soon three weeks.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Uh, no question. As a ch kerr, love the show,
but I have to book a book. Recommendation for you
since you were talking about it. There's a series of
books by CJ. Box, the Joe Pickett Series. There's twenty
five to twenty six books in the series. All are
really good, and Matt will love that there's a TV
show about them on Paramount.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Plus that I would consider. I'm not reading twenty five
or twenty seven books.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'll tell you that that could be my summer reading.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
There you go, that sounds like up your alley.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah it's and he says, guys, great job in your
work leading up to the draft and the draft itself.
Matt's an ironman stupid question. Does it strengthen the run
defense or have any inverse question?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Time?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Does strengthening the run defense have any adverse impact on
the past d? And do expect both offensive line and
D pics in next year's draft.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I don't know how strengthening the run defense could hurt
the past defense.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, because if you get them in the more third
and longspos the third and four, you're in a much
better situation.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Unless they're implying going to play with a bunch of big,
heavy dudes. You can't rush the passer only to stop
the run, which I don't think is the case.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's not the case. You're still gonna have Watt in
high Smith and right, you still got premium pass rushers.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Like I don't think Black is gonna be one hundred
percent snap count guy, you know, and just nose tackles
all over the place.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
And Harrimon can rush the passer.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
What was the question about you.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Expect offensive line and defensive line picks in next year's draft?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Always?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
I think you take one of each. Something you got
to hold. You got the eleven picks right now.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Right always? And I don't know who the left guard
is next year? Right, I mean see them all lose up?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, one more before we get to a break here.
If we don't get Rogers to use the cap space
when it makes sense to front load some contract extensions
this year and make the first year a higher camp
hit than usual, then the player will have a lower
camp hit in later years. I know the usual approach
is to make the first round cheap. I with the

(31:54):
cap going up the way that it has so much
future years, they're not really worried about app stuff in general.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Almost any question cap related. You get rid of Coro Patterson,
you could restructure some people. There's so much space going forward.
There's a lot of dudes that are on one year deals.
I mean you could add to something to their deal
if you fall in love with them in training camp
or whatever. And Rogers to me, is not a detriment
at all to the cap.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Really no, and I don't see again, I think they're
going to Rogers are going to sign.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yeah, So it's not gonna be like a party deal
that you know, you got a structure.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Forty million dollar one year deal that you're going to
have the right. It's not what it's going to be.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
No, I don't think it will.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
So.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
No, the CAP stuff, none of it really worries me.
And you can roll it over with your extra stuff, right.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah. Anyways, let's get to a break. We'll continue with
our Twitter ex Twitter questions when we come back. He's
Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the
Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williams on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Welcome back on Dale Lowly. He is the Matt Williamson
and we're rolling for some ex Twitter questions here, and
Jonathan Mason asked, one of the Steelers going to be
doing Pittsburgh or the new Steelers going to be in
Pittsburgh doing media stuff? Feels like that's happened by now
in the past. Well, there were plans to do that.
First round pick Derek Harmon, and while he came to Pittsburgh,

(33:32):
he was there.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
He.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Did not do any media that day because obviously his
mother had died the night before. I was actually supposed
to sit down with him for an interview on these airwaves,
and none of that happened.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
He didn't do.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
The usual press stuff. They'll yeah, they'll do all that
stuff starting next weekend with rookie Minnie Camping.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I assume start with all the bigs, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Michael Odessa says I was a big fan of the
Steelers draft, especially the first two picks, but I'm infused
by the yay A Black pick, especially after Dunbar spoke
about the pick. They said he'll play mostly as an end,
not nose. They then released Montrevius Adams too, who helped
me make sense of this Who's nose tackle two? Now? Well,
I think it's the guy that they see from the Patriots, and.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I wouldn't look too much into I mean, obviously Carl
Dunmore and knows way better than us. But I'm sure
Black will line up in the A gaps quite a bit. Yeah,
you know right.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I mean he played basically one last year in Iowa.
I mean he's been almost head up on a nose
tackle or on the centers as it is plenty.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, I mean I think he'll be used all over,
but I wouldn't count him. I don't think he's an
be Keys or Aaron Smith.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Joe mccusic says, does Joey Porter have a legitimate chance
at the Hall of Fame? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
No, I don't know they would even be a finalist.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Fin ninety nine career sacks, he needed one more, one more,
and I think it looks much better to have one
hundred next year.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, I don't think so. There's so many good it's
really tough. Yeah, it's really tough.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Jim Hester says, how do you think the Steelers seed
Demarvin Leel as a contributor and where do you see
him aligning this year? It's a pivotal season for leol. Yeah,
that's I hope healthy to build a build on the
growth he wanted to showcase from last year. He could
be a nice defensive end depth piece.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
He could be. He could be, but he could be
jack of many trades, master none, not good enough at
any of them to stick in this league. Yeah, I
think he's one of the hardest guys to talk about
on the whole team.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
He really is. You know, I need to see him
first to see, you know, where's his weight at this hit?

Speaker 3 (35:36):
What are they asking him to play at this year?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
I think I'll last year in camp he was around
two eighty five, which is big enough to play end,
and he was playing he was playing defensive on the
defensive line last year for them right in camp.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah yeah, I mean he can stand up to I know.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, that's all kind of secondary stuff. But he needs
to make his bones as a defensive And then this ton.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Of percent And they flirted with Preston Smith too, of
having these lighter, reduced down guys on throwing downs. But
are you better than Cam Benton and Harmon in those
right way?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
You don't want to be the third string guy at
that And then what what used to I have for you.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's unfortunately he got hurt in camp last year.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
You know, but it's kind of making a break of time.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
No doubt. The question is who do you think the
number one slot cornerback will be this season?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Situational?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
I think it could be situational. I think at the
end of it all, I think Ecchoes gets the most
snaps in there.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, I think that's probably true. I don't think Beanie's
a liability, but I think he is what he is,
seventh round pick factor in there, he makes a team. Yeah.
I think Thornhill will play some slot.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah. Another question, long time listener, love the show. My
question is the schedule drops in two weeks. Why do
you think the Steelers wait until the end of July
to drop their their theme schedule? Why not drop it
at the same time as the schedule so as fans
can get a better handle on maybe what game to attend,
example like Alumni Weekend, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh, I said, what's the themes?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Well, first of all, they don't know the schedule. When
the schedule comes out, it's a surprise to the Steelers
as well.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It's probably not even finalized now. They're working on it.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
They get to schedule like an hour or two before
it goes on to TV.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, it's not like they know the schedule. Oh we
can start.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I mean to pull back the curtain. We always do
a schedule release show like the minute it comes out,
and we usually get it like two minutes before we
hit the record, right, Yeah, like I'm looking at the
first time, like, I guess we'll talk about this. There
we go.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know they get it. I mean within hours of
it coming out. Yeah, they get it.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
And you need to You got to tell the alumni
when to come in. You need to plan these things.
All right, what do we got going on this weekend?
How about that weekend? You know, so there is some
planning that does need to be done with it. I
mean you imagine building the NFL schedule. I mean it
is a massive undertaking, like some of them, you know,
base a stadiums are being used, and what if there's
a playoff game for baseball or what if Springsteen's in

(38:04):
town on a Sunday. Well I gotta be away that week,
you know.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Jason asked any chance that all the Rogers talk from
the front office was just a smoke screen for the draft.
I don't know whether it be smoke screening.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I could see Sanders and Shuck being a smoke screen,
you know that they were not as interested as people think.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, I don't see that as a smoke screen
at all. No.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
I think the draft told you that they're going to
sign an Rogers.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah. Iron City Beers asked why haven't the Steelers extended
to Sean Elliott? He's been phenomenal for us. Well, it
might be a good one in camp, it might be
something that they think about. But he's still only been
here for a year, and he's got another year left
on his deal, so.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Right, I mean he's probably not good enough to be
a franchise candidate. You know, maybe you do that in
training camp. Yeah, that's something we could talk about that,
but the timing doesn't work out now. I mean, they
have bigger fish to They're just down the ladder.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, Christopher Althar, He asks any chance the Rogers hold
up was tied to Kirk Cousins issue last year signed
with the team that drafted a quarterback high like he
wanted to wait until it was over.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I thought about that he might have crossed his mind.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I mean, I'm gonna take him at his word that
he has personal stuff going on.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, he has to take care of I wouldn't blame
him one bit, to be if they had taken Shador
at twenty one, I wouldn't have been as excited to
join the Steelers.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, he said, I know we were targeting a defensive tackle.
I listened to the show, but so many national types
pushed that possibility. Well, they were pushing that possibility because
they just saw, Hey, the Steelers don't have a quarterback signed.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, he was in here on a visit and most
people thought he was the first round talent.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Which wasn't you know, Yeah, the media people thought he
was a talent.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I found it funny. I said this a bunch of
in the draft that so many of the big media
that cover the league had quarterback in the first round,
but you guys that are there all the time had
d line in the first round. You know.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah. Matt Deslee Chico says, has the NFL changed their
draft philosophy over the last couple of years. It seems
like quarterback is not a legit first rounder. It's if
a quarterback is not a legitimate first rounder, they're not
going to waste the premium two to four round pick
on them love the show? Well, they still do.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
It's not as common as you think.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Jackson Dart went in the first round this year, right,
I did not think Jackson Dart was a first round talent.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Right. Really, from picks like twenty to forty, there aren't many.
But this year there was Darton Shock. Yeah, you know,
Levis wasn't that long ago. But the general consensus is
if I think he's the guy, I'm going to get
him and I'm gonna be aggressive. Yeah, but I don't
think he's the guy. I'm gonna wait.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Cc Ryders is hypothetical. If Rogers doesn't sign. Do you
think Will Howard eventually surpasses Rudolph this year of the show.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I don't think. I don't think that happens. That'd be wonderful.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
I mean, oh, you'd love for it to have really wow,
but I don't see really tough. Yeah, and t Max
says Dale, Matt and the boys, you guys getting there,
you go, Thanks for taking my question. Why is Patterson
still on the roster and why not put le Al
purely at defensive tackle? I don't know that they haven't.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I don't know what they've done with leol again, I'd
like to see what he weighs in at, what he
looks like, where he's running around.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I mean, remember he didn't play at all last year.
In fact, if he got hurt in training camp. When
he got hurt last year, they listed him as a
defensive tackle.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Did that Okay?

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I believe so, because that's where he had That's where
he had been lining up.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
At lest they drafted him. Matt, you know the other
stuff was, like you said, it's kind of the cherry
on top. I'm a little shock Patterson still on the roster.
I mean, I'm not sure that he's going to get
cut at this point. Yeah, I've thought all along that
was a no brainer, but I think, you know, I mean,
it could happen. You don't need the money.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It could happen at the end of training camp. They
don't need the money. They could take a look at
him say okay, what's it look like now. And we
don't know what the conversation was at the end of
the year. Did they say, hey, you need to get lighter,
you need to do this, you need to do that.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Truthfully, I don't expect them to be on the opening
day roster.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I know still on the right, so maybe there's more
to that.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, we'll see, you know, in terms of all that stuff,
let's see if we have anything else on here. I
don't think that we do. I think that's all the
We got through all the Twitter questions. How about that
that just never happens because we get so many questions.
We had twenty nine questions today. There's not just one
more on there we need to No, we got them all.

(42:30):
So there we go. That's going to do it for
our show today. It's a good one, Matt that it
was a great one. Yeah, for my partner Matt Williamson,
for Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller
hot line and apparently just cracking us up left and right.
And for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.

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