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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the
Matt Williamson and Matt it is now time for the
Fantasy Football Focus. I'm the champion. But our DFS lineup yesterday, yes,
performed quite well. We finished ninth overall in the bracket
that we were in with one hundred and seventy four
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point to two points.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Could any Lions screw us up tonight or anything?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, we've already we didn't have the month away game Monday,
and that was your Saturday Sunday matchup that we do
on Friday. We had Bryce Young in the lineup sixteen
point two points, only eight point eight percent ownership. We
had Bucky Irving in the lineup, well, fifty point nine
percent of the people have Bucky Irving a lot. Whoever's
playing the Panthers goes into the lineup and he had
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twenty six points. Could have had so much more?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Could have? Yeah, I mean they were Today was rookie
Day in the NFL, too, or Fantasy Rookie Day was
they were all on five huge. He's been great.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Speaking of which, Tyrone Tracy was in the lineup of
seven percent ownership, didn't blow up but had nine point
three points. Mike Evans, who we pivoted to when we
switched to the Browns defensive. That's why you check out
the YouTube channel because I put that on.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
There, did you nice?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I did to let everybody know that we were making
that adjustment. We switched to Mike Evans when we went
to the Browns defense, which saved us some money. And
Mike Evans.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Mike Evans eight for ninety seven and two touchdowns, twenty
nine point seven points, seventeen point five percent ownership. Adam
Thielen thirty one points. He was sixteen point seven percent
ownership and was a solid play at fifty seven hundred dollars.
Calvin Ridley at fifty five hundred, fourteen point one points.
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He had five catches for eighty four yards and seven
yards rushing. Paine Durham.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
That was nice and pickup Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Paint Durham eight point eight percent ownership, twenty nine hundred dollars.
We get eleven point six points out of pain Durham
two catches for thirty six yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
That's big.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Jonathan Taylor thirty point six points at thirty two point
five percent ownership, that's who we had in the flex.
He was extremely good. And then the Browns defense got
us five points on twenty four hundred dollars expenditure on
the defense.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, so that's nice winner there. Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And we pivoted off the Titans defense, I believe, and
they were bad.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
They were bad, bad yeah. Yeah, so that worked out well. Yeah,
it was huge, So.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Another winner for us. We've been on a little bit
as older. Yeah, kind of like my fantasy team on
a roll.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Interesting one point.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Looking at this week's top performers, it's kind of all over.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The place this week. Weird week.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Of course, seven players through for three hundred yards. Joe
Burrow had four to twelve and three touchdowns. He got
sacked seven times in that game.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
But there are lines a bit of shambles right now.
He was under under but right tackle went out. You know,
they got some issues.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, Orlando Brown junior.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
He's probably their best guy. Yeah, it's not great.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh, he had four twelve and three touchdowns. Sam Darnold
three seventy seven three touchdowns, one interception in that win
over Green Bay. Baker Mayfield three fifty nine and five touchdowns,
So fire that Bucky Irvick score one of those. Joe
Flacco three thirty and two touchdowns, two interceptions, far from great.
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The fumbley, yeah he was not, he was. This was
This was the same stuff to Burrow that the Flacco
was doing last year in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Though. Oh, he's very Jamis Winston esque at the stage
of his career, Like I don't think he even cares
at this point, like I'll just retire or not or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Uh, Kyler Murray had three twenty one but only one touchdown,
two interceptions, was sacked four times. Not been a great year.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It has not been a great year for him. I'm
sure they're gonna go into next year with them and
all that, but they can't be super thrilled with their
quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, Patrick Mahomes three twenty and three touchdowns against the Steelers,
Drew Flipping Locke, Colt Steed.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Needs to be embarrassed, ashamed of themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Three h nine and four touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks,
no fumbles. Yeah, they took a goose egg in a
game against the Giants.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, and he played well though, I mean he's
I mean, any of these guys are capable of having
a day, and he had a day.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It was a lot of catch and run.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Neighbors, a ton of you know right, and they knew
going with football and just a bad defense. Yeah, they
should make I'm not saying this would make a head
coaching change, but they didn't make a defensive coordinator change.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Justin Herbert just missed. He had two to eighty one
and three touchdowns, O'Connell to forty two and two touchdowns,
So it drops off considerably after those top ten performances.
And then Jayden Daniels last night two twenty seven and
three touchdowns, one interception. There's a difference right there. And
the rushing sacked five times. If you didn't throw that interception,
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we're tied.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
There's lots of what ifs.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's all you got to deal with now the rest
of the offseason.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I'll be go to sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Looking at the rushing leaders for this week. We had
seven one hundred yard rushers. Saquon Barkley thirty one for
one sixty seven, no touchdowns, Derrick Henry twenty seven for
one forty seven and a touchdown. Jayden Daniels had sixteen
for one to twenty seven, no touchdowns. Jonathan Taylor thirty
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two for one to twenty five and two scores. Amre
Abdullah had twenty for one fifteen.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, I think he had a big play called back too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
His long run that counted was seventeen yards. It was
just pretty systematic against that New Orleans defense.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'd say Saints are really a shot too. Yeah, they
might be. The Giants won or Saints thirty two in
the power ranks today if you were redo it, if
we're going to do it tomorrow, might Jets in there.
Jets are pretty pathetical. There's some bad team. New England's
really brendous.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
To Bucky Irving twenty for one thirteen. You had Rico
Daldell with twenty three for one oh four. He did
lose a big fumble though.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Say that was a lot of empty calories there. Yeah.
Ty J.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Spears just missed at twenty for ninety five. Bijon had
seventeen for ninety and two scores, most of that coming
in the first half of that. Yeah, great, and then
they kind of ignored him in the second half, and
then Lamar Jackson had four for eighty seven and a touchdown.
Two quarterbacks in there, Yeah, never hurts to have that.
No receivers. You had twelve one hundred yard receivers. Malik
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Neighbors led the way seven for one to seventy one
and two scores. T Higgins eleven for one thirty one
and three, Pooka and Nakua ten for one to twenty
nine but didn't score.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I wonder how high Pookah goes in drafts next year.
There's not many receivers I'm taking over that aren't named
Chaser Jefferson. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Trey McBride had twelve for one to twenty three in a.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Score, got in the end zone. In the end zone, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Alec Pierce six for one to twenty two in a touchdown.
Benefit from the Flacco experience. DeVonta Smith six for one
to twenty and two scores. Adam Thielen five for one
ten and two scores.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Been solid.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Michael Pittman nine for one oh nine in a touchdown.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
He finally looks healthy. Too little too late for the
Colt or for your fantasy team, probably, but Drake free
agent after the year. Pittman.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think so they signed him before the season started.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That was this year, Yeah, I think it was two
years ago, to a two year deal. No, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Drake London seven for one oh six, Tyreek Hill nine
for one oh five, didn't score.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Marvin Mims Junior against that Cincinnati defense had eight for
one oh three and two touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
One of them is like the longest play of the
year though. I mean it was bombs away.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Fifty one yards, but still they gave it up. Oh,
they gave it up.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, they always do.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Mimes has come on a little bit. I think they're
pretty happy with him.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Chase said nine for one oh two didn't score. Mike
Evans just missed with the eight for ninety seven and
two touchdowns. Marvin Harrison Junior just missed with six for
ninety six. You had Jerry Judy at twelve for ninety
four seven point eight yards per catch. Uh, Ladd McConkie
eight for ninety four and two touchdowns with solid Justin
Jefferson eight for ninety two and didn't score. So there's
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some guys on it. Brian Thomas seven for ninety one.
Other big game for him in a touchdown to your point,
Gaziki had ten for eighty six.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah game, Yeah, seem like a lot of it early. Yeah,
but yeah, he's there. He is their third receiver.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, he's there.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Slot the slot, the slot.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He should just have a slut w R next to
those names. No ever. So that's the top performers from
this week.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And pretty solid, solid dance you brung you guys. Yeah,
not a lot of crazy from left field, you know, guys.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So congratulations if you won your championship. If you're playing
again this week, I got to ask the question.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Why it's bonkers to me? I'm sure some people were
waiting on the Lions tonight too though, Yeah, probably quite
a few.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And and you know, this is a game that I'm
you know, if you got Lions, go and fire them up.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I assume they'll play the whole time, fire up Kittle
they said they're going to. I wouldn't defy with the Lions.
I mean I would rest everything for next week. But
they're wired.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
They could win this game. Well I guess they can.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
They can lose this one, but yeah, it doesn't mean
a thing to them. Yeah, but you're still short week
to go play for the division. Title next week? Could
they already play them half? I mean, I think he
said we're just going full systems go.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But does it matter if they lose it because Philly won?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
No, I think it all the matters is their game
next week for the division title, Okay, and that that
ends up being the one seed too, it really means zero.
I mean, you know, but you already have them in
your lineup. You're you're stuck with these guys. Yeah, it's
not like you're brown out, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
At this point, I'm sure Dan Campbell's looking at this
one we can't have. We can't. There's nobody else on
defense that can get hurt because all of our good
players are hurt.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So I just think it's his mentality that we're going
to grind it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And this this is a team that came back on
them last Unless ye's NFC championship.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
They're going to run the score upon them like crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Speaking of that, and I texted you this earlier this week,
Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, everybody looks at Calkyle Shanahan is a
great coach, right, great coach. I see Steeler fans all
the time. Why don't we get a Cayle Shanahan Typeyle Shanahan.
This is his eighth season now in San Francisco. This
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is his fourth losing season in San Francisco. With all
that talent that they have, they still have losing seasons.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
They had won where they got Bosa with the second
overall pick. They were like one of the worst teams
in the league. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's been and
they haven't won the big one. I mean they've won
a lot of games and they're great. Seasons are great,
but not quite good enough, not quite great enough. Yeah. Yeah,
and this year there's a lot of excusable things.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
But next year you shouldn't be six and nine. I
don't think there's no excuse for that.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
No, they're better than that. I mean you would think
next year they're going to look different. I mean I
don't think Trent Williams will play football again. No, I've
always gone through and shutting it down the whole stage.
And he's old and right, and he wasn't quite as
good this year. You gotta play party, you gotta pay party.
So they may not be favorites in their own division,
you know, going forward either. Yeah, but I have heard
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some Niner fans that aren't throble chan In too. I mean,
he's not a great game manager. He's a tremendous offensive mind. Yeah,
but I don't know that he's like him and McVeigh
are always like neck and neck, and I'm not trying
that McVay as my head coach. I don't think they're
even close.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I would agree head coach, you know, yeah, I
would agree. Yeah, I just I thought it's got a
five hundred career record.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Is that where he's at? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, like the's like.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Three games over and doesn't really surprise me.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
So be careful what you asked for, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, you'd like if you got some high moment you
can criticize Mike Tomlin, and he certainly opened the criticism.
Hasn't won playoff games all stuff, But they're in contention
every year off, you know, extremely difficult.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You're not.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You don't have a bad season every every other year
and get yourself a top ten draft pick and then
oh look we got this. Well that's nice because you
had a top ten draft pick.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, and yes, the Niners had a tough year in
terms of injuries and all these things. But it's not
like Tomlin never has right. Yeah, I mean he said,
you know, you lose your quarterbacks and things like that too,
you know, so, but.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, so hopefully your fantasy championship is locked up.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
If not, is this our last fantasy segment of the
for a while. We still do dfs. I mean, we'll
definitely should do the playoff stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
We'll start digging more, looking more towards draft type stuff
and things of that nature moving forward, which I've already
started doing some homework on. But h yeah, you know,
I had a lot of free time on watching eighty
seven consecutive hours of NFL football. It's been a lot
just sit there with the laptop and look up different
guys like, oh yeah, I like that guy, like that
guy guys I saw on TV. What's what's the what's
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the prognosis on this guy? Because I stand.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Out to Oh no, it's starting to be heavy draft season.
We've got college playoffs a bunch of these Knights too,
and there'll be guys to highlight there too.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Absolutely, But let's get to another break. He is the
Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly the Champion, and uh well,
this is the drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt
and I'll be back with more right after this.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Welcome back. I am Dale. He is the Matt Williamson
and this is the drive on the Steelers Audio network
in Matt. Because the game has been moved to Saturday
night or been placed on Saturday night here against the
Bengals upcoming eight o'clock.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's what the Steelers'.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Schedule now, says Mike Tomlin held his press conference today.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah. Yeah, and as.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mentioned earlier in the show, well it looks like
they're going to get Ben's chronic and Joey Porter Junior
back for this one. So relatively healthy for the Steelers
coming into.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
This White healthy. It seems like, I mean, is there
anyone we're worried about? I mean, I know injury reports
aren't out or anything, but nice long break. I mean
it looks like some be the usual guys. Yeah, and
you think they play everyone as if this is a
playoff game. I mean, yes, fourth quarter gets weird. I mean,
who knows, but I would think you're going to go
crazy on it Squronic to me is very valuable. I
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think Porter's remarkably valuable. And some things I was looking
at today, the next gen stuff that came out already
for previewing this game doesn't shock me. But in attempts
two point five seconds or less, Burrows clearly the best
in the league. I mean, he's number one, and we
saw Mahomes how well he did that. And frankly, the
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Steelers defense is the worse in the league in terms
of pass attempts under two point five seconds. What do
you think you're gonna get?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
They see it's more than anybody see it.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
A ton because of the pass rush, and the corners
are suspect and they've not done well against it, so
they better used to it. I mean, whether since he
has success or not, whoever, the first round opponent is
going to attack them as people have. I mean, that's
kind of Rooks book on them right now, and I
think Porter is the most important guy to stop that.
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I mean, you can at least press Higgins or Chase,
and if you copedo the top, so be it. But
it's a lot harder to get it out in two
point five against press Man.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, tackle the catch.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Tackle the catch and just disrupt the route, you know,
just the timing of at all.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
This was the game where everybody was complaining about Joey
Porter Junior, if you remember, because he had some He
had some penalties in this game working against t Higgins
for the most part, and as Mike Tomlins said after
the game, I don't you're gonna get penalties if you
don't disrupt Higgins. Yeah, he goes for eleven for one
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thirty and three touchdowns like he did against Denver.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Oh yeah, right, Like he's a hard guy to disrupt too, but.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
He's the guy they look to in the end zone.
In the red zone, Chase gets everything. Chase gets a lot,
Chase gets more of the stuff down the middle of
the field until they worked down. When they get into
the red zone, he starting to borroughstart tries to throw
fades or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It's Higgins all day, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Chase is a beat you off the line of scrimmage
and maybe gets you on a crosser in the end zone.
Higgins just just go up and be big.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah yeah, sideline stuff. I mean, he's a definite style
of receiver and he's really taken it to a new
level too. And I've never seen him in person, but
a couple of guys over here to you I remember
mentioned it, you know that seeing him in person was whoa,
he's a bigger man than you think too, I mean
a bigger, physical, stronger, longer, small forward looking dude, you know.
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And the other thing I saw in the next gen
stats that comes to mind just along these lines too,
is not only does Chase have the most yards after
the catch in the entire league this year, so most
of any receiver in three years, you know. So he
is the middle of the field, Get him in motion, a.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Lot of that short stuff, Get him the ball quickly
and let him try to make somebody misattack on.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
He's good at it right, right, right, Not that he
can't get downfield or you know, post someone up at
the end zone too, But they are very different stylistically.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, for sure. Of course, Mike Tomlin was asked about
some of the communication issues that the Steelers had over
this three game stretch, and I might have added, I'm
watching other games, watched a lot of football the last
you know, NFL games, and I always get the question,
why does this only happen to the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Whatever, the answer the whatever. The next part of the
question is it doesn't only happen, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm watching multiple games over the last few days where
you like, that was a communication issue, and then you
hear the announcer come on, yeah, I don't they had
a communication issue there. Well, yeah, that's how guys get
opened in the NFL. Oh yeah, nobody just plan out
beats somebody off the off the snap. But it happens
very rarely.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
We just get beatn schemed up. And you know, in
particular the Steelers that we were talking about on that
show that Rob referenced with Wolf and I that Wolf
was like, and he's an no lineman, but he's a
football player. He's like, man, the route combinations watching from
the booth that the Chiefs were using, motioning a third
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guy into a bunch or a group to the wide
side of the field, he's like, I don't know how
anyone deciphers that stuff, Like, well, they're the best in
the league in it, but boy, it is challenging because
it's happening now and they're all coming out of a
bunch and it's like, you know, like they're all going
everywhere direction. We once you know, it's really difficult.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Somebody just pulled the fire alarm and everybody's running.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Into every little kid and you know, the elementary school,
and you got to figure out you to cover them all. Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
As we mentioned with Rob, Mike Tomlin said, he is
not sitting anybody in this game that you know.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, systems go.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, yeah, you got to go and treat this. You
just got your mini by.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
No, that's great. I mean you get a little bit
of energy, a little bit of refresh to the bones there,
and emotionally too. He would never admit this, nor should
any head coach, but I'd much rather go to Houston
than Baltimore next year or next week, well, next year
or two any of it. Probably Yeah, but yeah, I
mean I want to be the five seed. If you
can't be the three, if Baltimore wins, I don't want
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to be the six. I want to be the five.
I mean, I think that gives the best chance to advance.
And you know that that's smart to me.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
At the same time, you split with the Ravens this year.
It's not like a you know, and again you were
in that game, yeah, you know, I know you lost
thirty four to seventeen. But you were in that game,
laid into that game before it kind of got away
from you with the pick six. So either way, I'm
with you. I would prefer to go to Houston they
get there. Yeah, they're much worse situation right now and
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injuries and all that kind of stuff. But it's not
like you haven't shown you. I mean, you've won eight
of the last one. You've won eight of the last
ten against Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
That didn't evaporate after one game.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
No, that one game doesn't fix that doesn't cure it.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
No, I just think or Houston's really limping into the
playoffs right now. Yeah, not to mention their biggest issues
or OWD line stuff that the Steelers would thrive against.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well, that brings me, you said, limping into the playoffs.
That brings me to a point. I tweeted something out
last week and somebody said, well, the Steelers are backing
into the playoffs. No, they're not backing into the playoffs.
They cliched the playoffs, but three weeks ago they're not
backing into the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs would be
what would happen if if Denver lost this week and
Cincinnati and Miami both lost. The Broncos will be backing
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into the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
That you need someone to and that's happened to Steelers before.
You know, you're waiting for Jacksonville or whoever to win
or lose, and then you get in where it's not
you don't control your own you know, path, you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Don't control the situation. You're just hoping for other things
to happen. The Steelers are in the playoffs and have
been in the playoffs for the better part of a month.
You know, they earned that over the course of the season.
And you know what you said earlier about the situation here.
I mean if you look at the Bengals schedule from
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this season, you can look at their schedule and there's
some similarities there to what happened to them.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
You know, you mentioned a rough patch they had. They
had a five game stretch there where they only win
was a Raiders.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So they lost their first three games of the season,
lost of the Patriots, lost of the Chiefs, lost of
the Commanders.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Okay, Patriots was Opening Day.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, they come back and they beat the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
That's when Young was getting bench and they were terble to.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
They then lose to the Baltimore Ravens to fall to
one and four, so they lost three out of four there.
Then they come back and they beat the Giants, they
beat the Browns. Now they're three and four. Then they
lose to the Eagles. Got smoked at home by the Eagles,
by the way, thirty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
They got crushed in that game.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Then they beat the Raiders, come back and beat the Raiders.
Next three games, lose to Baltimore, lose to the Chargers,
they have their bye week, and they lose to the Steelers.
So three losses in a row to three playoff teams,
four out of five. If you look at the game
against the Eagles that they lost. The playoff teams.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
A six week stretch where you only win is the
Raiders and one's bye, you can't get them. But still
it's a month and a half where your only wins
against the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So you know this four game winning streak that they
have against Dallas, Tennessee, Cleveland, and Denver, well, yeah, it
looks good and it's good for them. They started the
season slowly. They had a really bad stretch in the
middle of the season where they lost four out of
five and now they've they've beaten up on some teams
that it's a murders rose nor a nice win. Yeah,
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is a nice win there. But this is not a
team that that you know, is barnstorming its way into
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yeah. I think there's a misconception that, hey, I've said
this and I'll stand by it. I don't want to
see Burrow in the in the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right, sitting at home dangerous.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
But they're not the cliche team that if they get in,
they're the team no one wants to play. No, I mean,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Every offensive coordinator is looking at that going, yeah, I
wouldn't mind facing that defense as supposed to Denver's right, right, right.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
I'm not sure if they're better or worse than Denver
or the Chargers, but they're not the team that, oh man,
I hope they don't get in because they're gonna win
at all. I mean, no, they've got issues.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
This is what their defense is given up this year. Okay,
two ninety against New England, but it was to ninety
against New England England. They only gave up two eighty
six against the Chiefs in Week two, but then they
give up three fifty six, three seventy five, five twenty
it with the Ravens, and that was against the Ravens.
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Three zero nine against the Giants. That's not great. No,
three thirty six against the Browns they won that game,
three ninety seven against the Eagles, they held the Raiders
to two seventeen. That was when they weren't even starting
O'Connell at that point. Okay, three eighty nine to the Ravens,
four thirty five to the Chargers, five twenty to the Steelers,
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as they given up over five hundred yards twice, three
twenty two to the Cowboys, three seventy four to the Titans,
three seventy four to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, not great. No, that's recently.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Two seventy three to the Browns with DTR and then
three twenty nine against the Broncos on US on Saturday Night.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I mean, there's so how many was that one three
twenty ninety.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, there's some outlier games there where they gave up,
you know, two seventeen to the Raiders and you know,
things like that. It's been a bad defense all season long.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
All season long, and nothing got fixed from last year.
And it goes back to laugh year. I mean, remember
that everyone blamed the safeties and they're gonna signed Gino
Stone and bring back Von Bell and get back to
being a top defense. It's been arguably the worst defense
in the league now. The defense.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, the one thing that it has done during this
little four game winning streak here turn yeah two turnovers
force that's Dallas.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Six against the Titans, they turned the Titans over six
times and won thirty seven to twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, against a bad football.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Against a bad football team. They turned the Browns over
three times.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think they had six sacks in that game too.
It's the only game they've had a lot of sac
production and.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The Broncos turned it over one more time in that one.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So they have created some big players, they've.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Created some plays here, and that's kind of helped them
win some of these games, because before that they were
a five hundred is turnover ratio team.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, that has been better and you
can kind of live that way, you know, and they're
proven it. They've won four in a row. That if
you have an elite offense and a bad defense that
at least make splash plays, sacks and turnovers. Okay, you'll
be in games against good teams, you know. I mean,
that's a hard way to live, but it's heck a
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lot better than just getting steamrolled on defense time and
time again. Yeah. Yeah, so, but there's nothing I'm worried
about with the defense, no way, or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Again, you know, when's coming out of that game against
the Bengals, when the Steelers put up five hundred and
twenty yards of offense and put forty four points on
the board, nobody was talking about this offense really stinks,
they can't do it. That was the exact opposite. Wow,
look at this offense. This gives them a chance to win.
Now you've gone and you have played three really good
football teams and you've lost to those teams. Yeah, and
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all of a sudden the offense stinks.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah. I actually think from an optimistic point of view,
there's a couple of things on offense that are trending
the right direction. Absolutely. First off, the running game. And
I'll be the first to admit that the last series
that Nausee had you gained like forty or fifty yards
against nobody. But if you take that out, but they
were running the ball in that game. The running game
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I think is trending up. Now I needs to keep going.
I mean, that's going to be your foundation. But I
think Warren looks great, and THEO line's been fine and
the blocking has been fine, and part of it's because
Pickens was out, But I still think Austin and Friarmouth
are trending up, and clearly Warren is. I mean that
kind of goes hand in hand with the run game.
But if you can cut down on the sacks and
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you can get Pickens back to being a productive like
he usually is, I don't think the offense and all
of a sudden is oh, that's the back Canada offense,
just like we said, no, no, you know right, I mean,
this isn't what it's better than what we've been used
to by far well.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
And that's a valid point that you bring up there.
So if you think back to it, George Pickens played
in the game against the Bengals, tore them up. Yeah, yeah,
didn't play the next week against the Browns. That was
he said. You know, he sat got hurt there on
Thursday and didn't play, didn't play against the Eagles, came back,
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didn't play. I'm sorry, didn't play against the Ravens, missed
those three games, came back and played against the Chiefs.
But he came back and played against the Chiefs. They
had won practice.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh right, right right, He didn't practice all week and
then didn't play. Right.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
This has been a situation where now he should be
fully healed from everything, so he's going to get practice
time to work with Russell Wilson on the time. Could
you lose some of your timing over a month when
you don't play, and I expect him to go out
and tear up the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
I would be shocked if he doesn't, and I'd be
shocked if Wilson doesn't. I think Wilson has a good
game here if you look at I mean, we're not
going to do it, but if you were to rank
all the fifty three active roster Steelers, who benefits the
most from this long week, I think Wilson's near the
top of the list. I think Pickens is absolutely near
the top of the list. The injured guys, you know Porterscronic.
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I'm sure Cam is great as he's playing, and he
was really really good in the past game two, even
it's Chiefs. I'm sure his older body is pretty happy
about the break.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, you know any of the ad guys, Yeah, absolutely,
any of those. And if you remember that first matchup
against the Bengals, Nagee. Harris had six catches for fifty
four yards, Corderyo Patterson had three for thirty seven, and
Jaylen Warren had four for fifty five. Warren only had
three carries for nine yards in that game. Yeah, that
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was like the last time that they really didn't use
him as a runner because they were just having so
much success throwing the ball on first downs.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Like first right, I would hope, I mean I would
assume the Bengals are gonna not have the same game plan. Yeah,
I mean remember all those running back middle of the
field hit and you know that's six for sixty eight. Yeah,
a lot of over the middle stuff, you know, Tampa
to the linebackers running deep downfield and you just throw
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at the warrants.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Who they are.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I can't imagine they're going to give that up
as easily. But that means they're going to sick.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I means you're going to give them something deep to
pickings in.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Possibly, possibly, but right, I can't imagine. I mean, they're
they're running back receiving production against is really bad. But man,
that was almost crazy. That was steel Is that not?
How do you want to make an adjustment during the game?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, that was stealing in the game. Yeah, because Harris
had his six catches on six targets, Patterson had his
three catches on three targets, and Warren had his four
catches on four. You were you were thirteen for thirteen
for over one hundred yards just tossing the ball to
the running.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Backstended handoffs, pass the line of scrimmage with nobody, not
a line of scrimmage worth of people to break tackles from.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
The most incompletions in that game, really they were three.
He was three for six targeting Pickings. Pickings had three
catches for seventy four yards and a touchdown. Everybody else
farm With had six catches on seven targets. Van Jefferson
won for three, all right, Calvin Austin two for two,
Scuronic was one for one, Malcole Pruitt was two for three,
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and Darnell Washington was one for one. Like, you didn't
have many incompletions unless they were deep balls down down
the field. Right, if they're going to give.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You that, and I don't know how they possibly can
because it was such a losing formula last time.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I just think that's they are so afraid of giving
up the long passes. And they've always played this way.
If you remember Friarmouth last season, his one big game
was ten catches against the Bengals. I think it was
ten catches on ten targets, everything right there over the
middle of the field because they just give it up.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah, and their tackling was really poor in that game too,
And I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, they trust the offense and much. Okay, we don't
want you to score quickly and easily because we wanted
to try to turn you over at some point.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Right right, right. That's they've been fortunate in the last
couple games. They've been doing some of that.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But we can't give up the quick one, no, because
you're not getting any chance to turn anybody over on that.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
No. And they don't trust their corners or safeties all
that much either. They soon good players. Yeah, I mean
it really comes down to that. On defense, their personnel
is poor, and you know we've talked about this big
picture stuff. I mean I'm being kind to say they
need five or six new starters. I mean, I think
it's like eight, folks.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
This is Matt not Dale making fun of the Bengals
on defense here.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
No, it's just sad. I forget who I was listened
to some of the covers them is talking about they
got five or six defensive starters that are definitely going
to get cut for cap reasons, you know, Like it's
just it's not a even an argument at this point.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
When they just put Sheldon Rankins on the reserve non
football in this.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
List, does that mean he's definitely not playing this game.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Definitely not playing, Okay, Like he's probably their best guy
or one of the best.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Guys, their best interior per year. Probably, I mean, then
he's okay, you know, yeah, I mean if you I mean,
they really need the Dax Hills and Miles Murphy's and
all those draft picks to start coming around next year.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
If I were them, if I'm if I'm coaching, like
I'm looking at if I'm going coaching the Bengals, I'm
Zach Taylor going into this weekend, I'm looking at this going, Okay,
is Kansas or Kansas City's backups gonna beat Denver?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Probably don't.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Probably not, but they they're eight point underdogs. The Broncos
are no in the C because they're not playing anybody. Yeah, yeah,
not only do I need them to lose that game,
but then I also need Miami to lose to the Jets,
and then I need to win this game. In piss,
I'm gonna play my young guys. I'm gonna play the Miles.
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Murphy's of the more snaps than I typically and I
don't know what they are.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Maybe. I mean, I think you got to do everything
possible to win the game. I get it you're playing first.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
But what you've been putting out there defensively, yeah, isn't working.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
No, it's not. I don't know if this is the
game to do that, but it's a good conversation. I mean,
there has to be some big picture thinking about the defense.
I need to know about some of these guys because
they're a lot of incomplete grades on some of those dudes.
And there's been some injuries. Both the Michigan defensive backs
have been hurt a lot this year, so you don't
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know as much more about it.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, and Murphy almost he has to start because Sam
Humber's on He's out Hubbard's out too, So you're starting
Miles Murphy. Yeah, yeah, Miles, You're you're gonna. I mean,
they can put Joseph Asai out there, which they do,
and he's okay, but I'd rather see what Miles Murphy is,
get him another games experience here.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I definitely get your point. But by no means am
I playing lesser players just for future development?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
No, I mean, but here's their problem is is all
they're good young guys, A lot of them. Dak Shill's
on IR, DJ Turner's on IR. I mean, Logan Wilson's
has been on IR.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like, they're even the guys who can kind of count
on even if they haven't lived up to expectations or
at least he had high hopes for still or the
book's not written on them. You don't know anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, I mean they're playing Jordan battle over von Bellt
like it. That's kind of where they're at. Yeah, Josh
Newton's already in the lineup, like, but.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean, other than Hendrickson, no one's really playing well
on defense.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, right, so they're kind of they are what they are.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Again, they're gonna if they can turn you over, if
they could get some sacks. That's been the formula on defense.
That's the only thing that's been better on defense than
when we saw these guys last Yeah, you know what
I mean. So that's and that's significant, but it's also
come for the ball and arms way, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yeah. Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the
Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the
Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will
be back to finish up the show right after this,
at least.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolli. He is
the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the
Steelers Audio Network. And Bill Barmwell, Matt put out an article.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah I didn't read it.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Weeksn uh the teams nobody wants to face in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
We've kind of made that joke about the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, well, of course the Bengals are one of those
teams in there. We say that, and I used to
say some similar things about the Steelers on some years
when they didn't make the Playoffsky in the Killer be era.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
When you think about it, like, I mean, I don't
want play against benon.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Like twenty eighteen when they went nine to six and
one and didn't get in, like that was it. That
was a good football team that had some injury and issues.
If they would have gotten in the playoffs, could they
go and win a game? Absolutely, that's kind of the
situation with an Arrow and Company.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
But I guarantee the Steeler defenses were better than this one. Yes, yes,
I mean it's a respectable not bottom five defense.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, you know, so there's that. Somebody on
the on our message board said, you know, because I
mentioned something about Mahomes and they said, well, you know
you said the Steelers like Mahomes. Yeah, they like Mahomes.
They brought him in for a visit that you know,
Kevin Colbert loved him.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
He said.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
The drafts, Yeah, folks, well, why why didn't they Why
didn't they move up like the Chiefs did. I'm like, well,
first of all, the Chiefs were drafting ahead of them.
Was an earlier first round, had earlier first round. It
wasn't much earlier, but it was earlier. The Steelers, if
if you remember that year, were picking thirtieth because they
made the AFC Championship Game the year before by oh
by the way, beating the Chiefs in one of those games.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
That's what year. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So they
did just fine.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
They did fine. Roethlisberger was thirty five. Nobody knew he
was going to blow his elbow out the next year.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Yeah, to say the timing, they weren't you weren't desperate
need of a quarterback at that point, but he was
older and you were starting to look Yeah, I mean,
he was a great guy. I mean you could see
what of course I almost said, you could see why they
like Mahomes. Well, yeah, you can see what like Mahomes there.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
But to move all the way up to ten, when
you still had thirty five year old, you know, you
still had Roethlisberger putting up four thousand yards and twenty
eight touchdown passes. The Chiefs were in a different spot.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'd say they probably would.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
They had figured out that they weren't going to win
with Alex Smith. They could win enough to get into
the playoffs, but they weren't. They weren't gonna be good
enough to do anything beyond that, and Alex Smith at
that point was thirty four or thirty five.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
My hunch is Steelers were not in trade up mode period.
I mean maybe two spots.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, if he gets to twenty five, yeah, maybe we'll trade.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Up to go get him, but not trading next year's
first or whatever.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Because the thing is, if you do that now the
pressure is on. First of all, how does Roethlisberger react
to that?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, he was ticked off. They drafted Mason Rudolph like
in the third round. How does he react to you
trading up for a quarterback? It would be almost like
the Aaron Rodgers Jordan Love stuff.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
But heavier because I know it costs the Chiefs the future. First. Yeah,
and it probably would have cost you. It definitely would
have cost you more to move up from thirty to ten.
I mean, of course it would have been the right
move looking back and mean, I'll give you ten first
round for Mahomes, of course, but at the time that's
not where they were at. I mean, it could have
ended up being Watson or whoever. I mean, like, trading
up for a quarterback at that ero wasn't the move yet.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Not yet no, no, not yet. Yeah, I mean you
just couldn't. You couldn't afford to go up a that high.
But b again, what it would do inside your own
locker room? Yeah yeah, yeah, would perhaps tear your team
apart to a degree, because again, Roethlisberger, you still had Pouncy,
you still had Foster, you still had that offensive line
unit that was there, that was very much in Roethlisberger's corner.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah, And if you make a deal like that, it's
a seismic shift. It's a seismic shift. And no, by
the way, you wouldn't have gotten TJ.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Watt true true, which next year's first and whatever else
would have been part of the package.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
And then you would if you do, you know, you
wouldn't gotten TJ. Watt. Now the next year, you couldn't
have made to move up to go get Devin Bush. Okay,
that's I get it. Hindsight's twenty twenty on that one.
But Devin Bush went where Devin Bush was supposed to go.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, everyone thought he was ten. Pick him
and Devin White.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, neither one of them worked out. No, that's just
how the draft goes, right, No, I I get a.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Kick out of draft hindsight because I tried to pride
myself and remembering where all these teams were at the time, Yeah,
and knowing that all of us don't know who what
players are gonna be good and bad? You know what
I mean, Like, well, this is why they didn't make
the move, or you know, they weren't in the market
to trade up, or boy, they really needed a nose tackle,
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or their guards are the worst in the league, or
you know, for any team that is in around the league.
It's easy to say, why didn't everyone trade to one
to get my homes? If you're gonna trade that far,
why not go to one? Yeah, I mean right right,
you know, like I'm proud of myself because I had
my homes, my number one quarterback that year, I would
have traded for one to one for them, you know,
I mean the Browns weren't offering Miles Garrett for him,
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you know that spot. Yeah, you know, I don't know.
Draft hindsight is a slippery slogs.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's like the Lamar Jackson stuff because the Steelers, the
Steelers didn't take Lamar Jackson the next year, and I
distinctly remember in my next to last mock draft I do.
I was, I'm still working with DK Pittsburgh Sports at
that time, and I would do a mock draft, like
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starting with the month leading up to the draft. I
did a different mock draft every month or every.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Week, like the whole first round or the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
The whole first round. Okay, And I remember mocking Lamar
Jackson the last, the next to last mock draft that
I did. I mocked Lamar Jackson to the Steelers, and
I got called every name in the book, told how
dumb I was. Why would they ever do that. They've
got Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, he's not any good, and I'm like,
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all right, I think he's a good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, he was also my number one that year, and
it would have it would have been the right pick,
of course, but that's super highsight, I mean, obviously, and
he could get rushed in at Baltimore either no, you know,
he did not, which would have been great for him here.
He probably could have hung out a year while Ben
was there and probably not have been thrilled.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
But imagine they would have had him in twenty nineteen
when yeah, things went you know, when Roethlisberger towards elbow.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Right, right right, Well, that's that's the move that one's
more logical than trading up for Mahomes or for anyone.
I mean not knowing, not even knowing who the names.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Are, you know, but it's just the hindsight stuff.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Is I have no idea if they liked Lamar or not.
I don't think he was for a visit, but I'm
sure they had great respect for him.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Mike Tolman had dinner with him.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
I know that. Yeah, with.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Everything that happened this weekend, Yeah, the draft order got
stood on its head, got stood on his head.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Now, yeah, so you got the Patriots now by doing
nothing but losing some more getting the number one overall pick.
They're not going to be in a quarterback market, no,
but they could say bring it.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Yeah yeah. Yeah. So the people that I trust that
I've listened to, again, I haven't dug into the deep
ended draft. I think Travis Hunter is the best player
in this draft, and he's special, and they absolutely could
use a receiver and a complementary corner to Gonzalez. I
mean every team could use Hunter. That's great. I would
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field offers. I mean I knew this, everyone knew this.
But when you watch the standalone game this week against
the Chargers and just the names that are out there
for them, it's pretty bad. It's really bad. I mean
I even threw it on Twitter hoping that some Patriots
fans would that would help it help me on this.
I'm like, besides May and Gonzalez, who are my foundational
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players here? I mean, like, who am I excited about
for the next five to ten years? Not Pop Douglas, No, right,
I mean, no one on the O line. Ramandre Stevenson's fine,
but by the time they're good, he won't be. And
he's a fumbler, you know, like Barmore would have been
that guy, but he's got all these off the field
medical concerns and he hasn't been great since he's been back.
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Kyle Duggar's fine. I mean I'm reaching here. Who the
foundational dudes that have any value on this team. Doesn't
look like it's Jalen Polk. I want the DJ Moore
for Bryce Young deal.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, I mean something along those lines.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, and it could certainly be a receiver that comes
my way too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Tennessee is now two.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I bet they're all of a sudden in the quarterback market.
They can say whatever they want. Yeah, they're probably pretty
happy to be too.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
The Browns are now three. Yeah, the Giants went from
one all the way down to four, even though they
have three wins, just like the teams ahead of them.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, so you got four teams now with three wins?
Do we think three of those four teams are all
quarterback needy? If the Browns is something dumb, here's the thing.
I don't love this quarterback class.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
I'd say it is it worth it to go all
in on these guys either, I wouldn't know that yet.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
I like cam I like cam Ward the best.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
I think Sanders is massively overrated.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
I'm not super impressed with either, but maybe they'll grow
on me as i'd learn more. I'll be the first thing.
I'm sort of ignorant on how yeah good they are.
But man, this seems like not the year to mortgage
the farm to go to one.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
No, I mean I get it. If it's you know,
you sell yourself, you can talk yourself into liking anybody.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Jacksonville is now five. They move down two spots to five.
Then you have a six The four and twelfth Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Bet spot to be for them best defensive player available
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Seven is the Jets. They're a team that could trade.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Up for that quarterbacks. Yeah, they could do something stupid.
Yeah yeah, or to do something even dumber and bring
back Rogers.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Eight is now the Raiders. They're four and twelve. They've
gone from being in the number one spot a couple
of weeks ago down to four and twelve or eight.
Then you get the Bears at nine.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Okay, they won't be the quarterback market.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
The Raiders should certainly be in the Yes, they would
have to trade up to do it.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
I would say five or six of the top eight
need a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
And then at ten are the Saints at five and eleven.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I wonder if so. It brings me to a sort
of different topic. But I don't know how many starting
quarterbacks are going to be available. If we say there's
only two coming from the draft. I don't think Donald
leaves Minnesota. No, I'd be shocked if they let Darnold. Yeah,
go on, do the Saints just totally punt and offer
Car to the Titans for a second round pick or something.
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Maybe maybe he's somebody you could get, you could have,
But I don't want. I mean, I like Justin Fields,
but am I trusting him or Daniel Jones or.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
Who else somebody might trust Daniel Jones say.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
But who's definitely a you count on as a start?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Not a great year to be in a quarterback situation.
Which again, when when you talk about the Russell Wilson
situation here in Pittsburgh, it's why you can't let that
guy walk.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Now, that's that It leads me to the Steelers, is well,
what's your plan there? You're not going to get.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Aaron Donald, Aaron Rodgers or or you know.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
I mean no, I don't want Flacco or Cousins or
any of these guys that are super old, that's for sure.
And I wonder if I'm the Vikes, what can I
get for JJ McCarthy. You might get the third pick
in the draft from.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
One I would certainly entertain offers, because Donald's still young
enough that.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
If you give him a long term deal and have
a McCarthy deal set up with any of those quarterbacks
might regret it.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
It might it might end up turning into a Daniel
Jones situation, but it might not.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
It might not. I mean, I think he's earned it
and if you could give one of the best teams
in the league a top eight pick. Yeah, yeah, I
mean the best corner in the draft. Oh know that
you get that though, I don't know. I mean he.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Didn't play at all in the preseason.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Like what I'm saying is it's so quarterback needy. Yeah,
you know that now's the time to sell them. I
mean I don't know. That's especially who can pounce on.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It situations Some of these teams are in because you know, again, if.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
You're the Niners, do you overpay party because you're not
going to what else you got? Probably? Yeah? Probably? Right?
What do the Giants do now? Or I mean there's
a light of teams that have nothing. Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Absolutely anyways, Matt, that's going to do it for today's show.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Good stuff.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Absolutely so, uh, we will be back again tomorrow. We'll
celebrate my championships. No, we won't do that anymore. That's
the last time I'll mention it. Last time I'll mention it.
But for my partner, Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here
on site running the Justin Miller hotline, for Tyler Viittmeyer,
making sure our video gets out there onto YouTube. I'm
Dale Lollie, We thank you for listening to this edition
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of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.