May 7, 2025 • 49 mins
Matt and Dale talk fantasy football rankings for wide receivers and breaking news regarding an alternate Steelers helmet design.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and
this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. And
well our number two here, as we've been doing all
week long, we will dig into the pro football focused
fantasy football rankings. We've done quarterback, we've done running back.
We're a wide receiver today. How much that works out?
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Real quick question for you. Does DK go up?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes? Does Pickens go up or down?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think now that we know exactly, we'll find out
where they haven't ranked here. Yeah, don't talk about it
then when we get to those spots. All right, I
don't know where he's at. I haven't looked ahead on these.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right, I'm sure this is pre trade that they came
out though.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So they got Jamar Chase number one and number one overall.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I get it, I get it. I mean it wasn't
the triple crown last year.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's pretty good at two and two overall? Is justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm not sure if I'd take him over Barkley considering
the quarterback situation. But I think he averages don't quote me,
but I think he averages more yards per game than
any wide receiver in NFL history. Pretty good, It's pretty good. Yeah,
this kind of speaks for himself.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
At four overall in our wide receiver three, Puka and Nakua.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh I would have Cede Lamb. I would too, He's next.
I think there's a top three and then you can
fight over who number four is. I can't take Nakupa
that he's really productive, he's very productive, but are we
forgetting that he missed a bunch of time last year.
Adam trusts must stay healthy, and I'm much I think
he's really really good. Like, I don't think he's a
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nice story for a fifth round pick. I think he's
one of the top end to twelve best receivers in
the game, but Adams is going to hurt him. It's yeah,
I mean Adams is a legit dude. He's a lot
better than the shallow Cooper Cup, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, And I just I don't trust it. Like I
wouldn't take him fourth overall, I wouldnt take him fifth over.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't think he'd be my top five receivers. Yeah,
it'd be a first rounder for me, but not that
would be I'm picking ninth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Okay, I gotta take hope he stays healthy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Like I'm not taking him. I don't think over his style.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Will play lends itself to getting.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hurt and they throw him around too. It's part of
it's his style play mixed with the offense.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Where they throw him the football at oh, he'll.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Lock defensive ends and yeah right yeah uh. At six
overall and wide receiver for Seed Lamb, I don't think
this hurts him at all the trade. I think he'll
get higher quality targets, maybe fifteen to twenty less though
over the course of the year he's gonna see he's
going to get one hundred and fifteen, get a bazillion,
and he'll get less doubles. Yeah, I mean, he might
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have been the most double receiver in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Wide receiver five and seven overall is a Monross Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He's as safe as they come. Yeah, and for that
reason I'd have him over Nikua. I still think Lamb's
closer to the top two.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
At ten overall and wide receiver six Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm one hundred percent on board. I also would have
him over Nikua. I don't know Nico or Saint Brown.
For you, I would probably go Saint Brown, obviously very
close by the your tone the area.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
At twelve overall and wide receiver seven mylik Neighbors. So
they're saying there should be seven wide receivers in a
twelve team PPR league.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
This is a problem with that. I mean, his target
share was insane when he was healthy last year, same coach,
he was getting like forty percent of the targets.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
At thirteen and wide receiver eight is Brian Thomas. So
you could come out of that if you had the
twelfth and the twelfth pick, you could come out with
I think Neighbors and Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I like it new coach, but I think they're gonna
use him a little more in the slot from what
I understand, which I didn't see coming. But he also
has some Mike Evans traits. I don't think Hunter going
there really hurts him either. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Right At sixteen overall and wide receiver nine is a J.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Brown. This doesn't get the volume. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I can't use the sixteenth pick in the draft on
a J.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Brown. Much as good player love the player, it's unfortunate
because he's much better in real life than fantasy. There's
a lot of fourth quarters and second halves where hurts
my throat, like six passes it. Yeah, yeah, I mean
like Harley throws ball at all.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I would take this next guy over him, even though
the quarterback situation is a little Drake London at twenty
and wide receiver would two.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I would to London's game of talent. Yeah yeah, pits
pits and Mooney, you're well down there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
This guy would not be my wide receiver eleven or
number twenty four. Wide receiver eleven is still.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
On your on your fantasy disposition is a big time
spot t Higgins. It's a little early, but boy, he
put up huge numbers even when when they both were healthy.
They throw the ball in the right I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But there are times where again Burrow just gets eyes
for Chase. All he does he does, and you're going
watch I'm watching. I had Higgins on my team last year,
traded for him, and I'm like, I know he got
cut and I picked him up laughable, But I'm like,
and there would be games I'm watching the Bengals again,
the Bengals around all the time. I'm watching them, I'm
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seeing them in person, and I'm like, Higgins is wide
open there and Burrow's going underneath to Chase with two
guys on him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I mean, Chase is that good? I get it. Sure,
Sure he demands targets, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But you're just ignoring T. Higgins for large stretches of
the game.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Eleven is a little I can't.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Go eleven compared to some of these guys who.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Are right behind. It's such a competitive position. But I
wouldn't have him a whole lot lower.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
At twenty six overall at wide receiver twelve, lad Mconkie.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, he's clearly the one. Yeah, clearly the clear.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I can't take somebody's number two receiver is my number
one fantasy receiver. Yeah, that's just asking for trouble. Yeah,
thirty Wide receiver thirteen is Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know what to think about him. Love the talent,
he's clearly, clearly, clearly the one. Yeah, I don't think
they're gonna throw it much, and I don't know the
fields is super conducive to great ride receiver play. Yeah,
but you could convince me to take him around that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
At thirty three, Wide receiver fourteen is Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'd be scared. I'm more concerned. Yeah, i'd be scared.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
This next guy should be rated higher. Wide receiver fifteen,
thirty fourth overall Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, Deebo doesn't worry.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It doesn't worry me at all. Like who's catching balls
in a team.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think that offense is going to be phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He hit some monster games.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If you look at Washington too, all of a sudden,
they remind me the Bengals. Their defense is pretty suspect
and old. The offense is loaded, big time quarterback. They
could be in a lot of shootouts.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
At forty two overall wide receiver sixteen Davonte Adams.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's about right. That's this is.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
More of the area where I would have Higgins at
down in this as a number two.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Really good number two. Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
At forty four, Jackson Smith and Jigbow Wide receiver seventeen
PPR two.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is PPR leans more his direction a little bit.
He's gonna get a lot of targets.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
At forty five and wide receiver eighteen is Dj Moore.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'd be a little concerned with that. I don't know
that he's gonna get a huge target share.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
At forty six Wide receiver nineteen Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Still really good. Baker loves him. They using a lot
of ways. I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
At forty eight Wide receiver twenty had a sight out
of mind is Rashid Rice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've heard a lot of people say and they'd rather
have Worthy than Rice. I don't see that at all,
especially in PPR. Yeah, Rice is the move, the chains guy.
I think Kelsey's roll is going to continue to diminish
and Rice take some of that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I mean they'll manufacture some stuff for Worthy just because
they want to get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh yeah, yeah. But Rice is the number one. He's
the chain mover. He's, you know, a physical guy. He
was great last year before his injury.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
At forty nine and wide receiver twenty one is Marvin
Harrison Junior.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
A bit of a leap of faith, but I guess
that's about where he belongs. He could blow up.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
He was getting drafted ahead of that last year.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, last year was a little crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
At fifty wide receiver twenty two Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He would be the last guy we brought up.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I can't two receivers out of that. It's the thing
offense in the top twenty two.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They just announced too that they rework Goddard's contract. He's
on down and he's not going anywhere, right, I mean
they're going to be It's gonna be hard to feed
those three.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
At fifty one wide receiver twenty three is Teed McMillan.
I can't go there. Yeah, that's a leap.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Of I mean McMillan vers DeVante Smith. I probably am
not buying either at that price. I bet there's gonna
be names that come up that are better, but they're
definitely the worst two we've mentioned.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
At fifty two wide receiver twenty four is Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm not totally sold there either. I mean that three
in a row. None of them are having me do
jumping jacks for what you have to pay for him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Fifty three wide receiver twenty five is z A. Flowers PPR.
Do you think he gets more than he has? Hopkins
doesn't worry me.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
No, Hopkins doesn't worry me.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's a tight ends and I think he should be
a little bit higher than that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I might take him over all three of those guys. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
At fifty five wide receiver twenty six is Chris Lave.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's even a massive He's like Wilson. He's gonna get
a massive target share.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I just worry about the concussion stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It is a concern.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
At fifty seven, wide receiver twenty seven is Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's pretty productive now, clear number one. There's not much
getting in his way. They gave him some money recently.
He's not young, but who cares.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
At fifty eight wide receiver twenty eight is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'd love to have him on a team. I don't
know if I can pay that price for him. He
could blow up, but that could be next year too. Yeah,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Fifty nine wide receiver twenty nine is Jaylen Waddell.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh, I'd have him higher. I would too. I'd have
him higher than the last five or six games we have.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We get some other teams here lost they still haven't.
We haven't gotten to the number one receiver right now.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And sixty two wide receiver thirty is Jordan Addison.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He's never really been for me. It's it's just gonna
be so hit and miss. Yeah, he's good, but I
think i'd rather like Davante.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I mean, we are in the wide receiver three yeah, territory.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We're not expecting them to all be Randy Moss.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
But it's sixty four. I don't understand how he could
be this high wide receiver. Thirty one is Brandon Ayuk.
He's not gonna play until mid season.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, if that's true, he's probably not even draftable.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, you're not gonna don't waste a bench spot on him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like times have change obviously in the last twenty four hours.
Else make that much, but I'd have metcalf over most
of these guys were talking about now. I think even
pre Trader would have had probably yeah, higher than than
Davante Smith pretty much on down. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sixty five is Jamison Williams wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Thirty two. I'm starting to buy into it. They seem
to really like him.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Sixty seven is one of those wide receiver ones. It's
well below a lot of these guys that were wide
receiver twos. And I know you don't love the player,
but Jerry Jude, who else is getting the football.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
In the right doesn't really matter who the quarterback is.
Flacco's actually very friendly for fans. Oh yeah, nobody cares
we throw his picks or whatever. Tilman could be on
my team too, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They were. They were throwing the ball over the place.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah yeah, I don't know who kind of right when
Winston was.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Winston was in there last year, and Flacco's just an
extension of Winston.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Very similar. Yeah, and the Joku as well. Those three
pass catchers will get a lot of Pat got a
lot of targets.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Uh sixty eight. Wide receiver thirty four, Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You're not worried about the aute cutting into a.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Judybout the deal he signed vet minimum, no money guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I mean, like he makes the team. I'm gonna have
a hard time investing in debo. Yeah, I just think
he's had such wear and tear. Seventy Wide receiver thirty
five is Chris Godwin that I was gonna bring him
up when we talked about Evans. He was like wide
receiver three when he hurt last year. Now, maybe they
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bring him along slow after drafting Abuca, but they wouldn't
given that money if they were at all worried about
his no, his knee, and he could be their wife
one angle right now, he might be twenty spots too low.
He way too low on my list. Yeah, that maybe
I'll do a little work on the injury. But and
I'm sure you don't see him in the preseason, but.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We'll get news if he's practicing or not.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, he's a stud.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Seventy five. Wide receiver thirty six is dk metcalf.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Too low then, way too low now? Yeah, I think
he belonged ibut with Duante Smith. That seems like the
line to me, guys above him were pretty strong.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So you'd have him wide receiver twenty twoish in that range. Yeah,
he's a clear cut number one receiver on an NFL team.
Like I don't understand why he guys like that. I
understand there's some you know, unsettled right right right right
quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't think RUDOLPH'SNNA throwing the ball. I'd of Godwin
ahead of him. Yeah, I think god Wins too low,
way too low, right, Jerry Judy's too low. Probably, Yeah,
this guy's probably too low.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Wide receiver thirty seven at seventy six. Jakobe Myers. Now
he's he's the number two.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, he's not gonna win your league, but he.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Should be a he's a solid wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Three. He's got a lot better quarterback thrown to him
this year. Yeah, Bowers will get his fine, but then
Myers is going to catch ninety balls. I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean that's what he I think he gets five
or six a game. Yeah, yeah, seventy nine. Ooh, wide
receiver thirty eight Cooper Cup Nope, ooh, nope.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm not buying that. I bet he doesn't play.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
They're not going to manufacture catches for him in Seattle,
like they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He doesn't have the Stafford connection. Their ability really worries me,
and separation really worries me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, eighty Wide receiver thirty nine is one Jennings.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes, I think he's like his under rased you get
again if I because out, Yeah, Debo's gone, Debo's gone, right,
Will seersall's in the mix and Kittles the same roles
all number one. He was really productive, Like, yeah, why
would he change? I don't I don't understand that at all. No, No,
I think him verse Judy is a conversation to me.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, he's fifteen spots too long.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yep, yeah, it's not a brand name guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Eighty one Wide receiver forty but uh Golden hmm, I.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Don't know, but you rather have Golden or Reid Reid?
I think i'd rather read. Yeah, he's worked at the
quarterback the last couple years. I think he's really underrated.
I think he's good. Yeah. The Packers said, hey, we'll
give you read them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be calling
at him right now, right, Yeah, that's rich eighty three.
There's still a lot of good names out there.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Wide receiver forty one, and they already have made the
change to Dallas on here, George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'd probably still go higher if he's.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Wide receiver forty one in fantasy. George isn't going to
be happy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh no. I think he gets a slight bump with
this trade, just because I think they'll throw the ball more.
I know it won't be Rudelph, but I'll trust Dak,
but not a huge bump.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
George is gonna get angry. Eighty four Wide receiver forty two.
Roma Dunze.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I guess didn't do a lot last year, but I
really liked him coming out of school.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, here's another guy's wide receiver one on his team,
eighty five wide receiver forty three, Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I would have him a lot higher.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I would have him way higher, right, Like some of
these guys are number two's on her teams and threes.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I almost cop Can the Steelers trade for him? Guy?
But I thought about that. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, they
got a rookie quarterback. They probably to give him somebody.
It's right, right, But I think Ridley's going to be
I'll get a lot of actions.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Here's another one wide receiver forty four, ninety six overall,
Leo Shakir.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They signed Elijah Moore and they got a million slides.
Doesn't bother.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That doesn't move the needle from me. Whatever. The next
time Elijah Moore shows that he can play in a
consistent basis will be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
The first time. I just mean there's a lot of
I'd get it, and he's the number one umber one.
I don't think that's a crazy ranking for him though.
PPR should be PPR. Yeah you forgetting this is PPR.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But ninety eight wide receiver forty five Stefan Diggs, I'm
probably on board.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Fair. Yeah, I think that's fair, assuming there's no lingering issues.
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
One hundred wide receiver forty six, Rashid Shaheed.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yes, now I don't love it if it's Schucker Rattler. Yeah,
you know, but he's good at football.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
One fourteen wide receiver forty seven. If you could pry
this guy away from this team, it would be nice.
Darnell Mooney, Yeah, I don't think he can. I don't
think he can, though, and.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I think of a very similar year to he last year,
which was really good. It's good. Yeah. I got a
lot of Mooney stuff on Twitter to like, I just
got ignored. I don't think there's any change.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, that may be an over the moon type.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And he's not even great.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's just he's a good number two. I'm really happy with.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Signing him, and he gave him more than they wanted.
I mean, it's a perfect fit for him. Why would
they move on from.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
One eighteen Wide receiver forty eight is Jaden Reid he's
buying Oh he's too low.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm buying it that no doubt. Oh he's a playmaker man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, there's like five guys in this area that I
would take and I'll bet three of them are just
wide receiver twos all season one.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah yeah, Reed could be their best guy. He could
be number one, right right? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
One nineteen Wide receiver forty nine Josh Downs.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm in on that too, even if it's Richardson. I
think Downs is. They haven't mentioned Pittman either, none of these.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Next god receiver fifty at one twenty four is Michael Pittan.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's almost my questions. Who would you rather have for
Fantasy BPR? I think I get those two being close,
Oh yeah yeah, and it's not gonna be a great accuracy,
pass involvement volume team.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wide receiver fifty one is Keon Coleman.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh, I don't put him with that group. I think
he might be a boss, but I'm not ready to
say that. But it's one year right now. Yeah, but
he's worried.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
One twenty eight is a Meccagbuka. At wide receiver fifty two,
I don't think he can see the field much early. Yeah,
what's what's the path to a bunch of catches there
for him?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Right? I mean, assuming Godin's healthy, which I guess they're not.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Assuming they get a really good running back and running
game right, two receivers ahead of him who are going.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
To get the football. McMillan's not bad.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, McMillan's good, right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It might be a semi red shirt year. He might
end up with five hundred yards if that. Yeah, I
mean that's not that's not a wide receiver three.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
No, Wide receiver fifty three at one thirty six is
Ricky Piersoll. Maybe a little bit of a leap of faith.
I didn't do much of anything last year.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, I mean he also got a shot. He did.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Not in Denver at one up at the end.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Not real, not real? Yeah, yeah, he had like one game. Yeah,
I would say there was one spark there somewhere. Wide
receiver fifty four is Luther Burden. Maybe. I mean if
DJ Morgan would happen to get moved to the moon
with Burden, Yeah, I think that's the That's why I
bring up DJ Moore. Burden's a lot like him, or
they won't get the burden in hand.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah. One wide receiver fifty five is Christian Kirk.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Got a little cloudy for him over the draft, it did.
I mean it looked really nice when he's clearly the two,
but now there's warm right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah. Marvin Mims is at wide receiver fifty six.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Cedric Tillman is wide receiver fifty.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Seven, but bump him up higher. I think he's the two.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Quinton Johnston at wide receiver fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Does Mike Williams hurt him at all? No? I don't
think that. I'm not a big Johnston fan though.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jayden Higgins with the Texans is wide receiver fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Maybe or he could have a total red shirt year too,
who knows.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
We're down into the one fifties now. Over All, UH
wide receiver sixty we Sean Bateman.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I would have him higher than some of these guys.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
He's a spot starter. Yeah, yeah, he's facing a wide
receiver four yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Adam Thielen at wide receiver sixty one.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I think he's still good. Almost brought him up with
the Steelers. Yeah. I mean he's one hundred years old
and he's a slot said.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
This is probably his last year, right, Okay, UH wide
receiver sixty two. Marquise Brown, he's kind of he could
come back a sight out of mind.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, right, he could come back and then coming big.
They throw deep a little more.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Romeo Dobbs is Wide receiver sixty three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I guess it would be my third packer. I mean
he's ahead of Wicks, but I would still have my
behind golden and definitely read. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Wide receiver sixty four is Jack Beck.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I guess he's pretty NFL ready. It's not a road
and there's no ceiling there.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Adam and I Mitchell at sixty five.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'm still a fan.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A third Colts wide receiver receiver right and pierces out there.
They can put like fifteen passes a game and there's
a first round by Dad. Wide receiver sixty six is
Xavier Lagette.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, he's like Coleman to me. But we'll see if
they can take a jump in here too.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
At one sixty five. Wide receiver sixty seven is to
Mario Douglas.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's doesn't move the needle lot for me.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm just looking here through this Antonio or uh Alec
Pierce at seventy one, So four Colts wide receivers in
the top seventy one.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe you could probably Pittman away from maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, uh you got h who else were looking at?
I'm just seeing if anybody else stands out here.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Like DeAndre Hopkins isn't even on the list barely trying
to think of some of the older guys that are
A Marii Cooper.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah he's on he's here. A Mariy Cooper is right now,
wide receiver seventy two.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I would take him with that. He's gonna play football
for someone.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And Keenan Allen's at wide receiver eighty.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, obviously, how do you rank you guys on
a team?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But DeAndre Hopkins is wide receiver eighty three. He's all
the way down there.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I say, you even know his team?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, Calvin Austin is a wide receiver eighty eight, two
fifty seven overall, so basically undraftable. Alan Lazard is wide
receiver ninety Do.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We think he's the Jets number two? Probably? Yeah? Rightlson,
Yeah he is.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Jalen Cocher, who he talked about I think is better
than people I like to stand wide receiver ninety one.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That's one of the fun things about Dynasty is like
I picked him up halfway through the season for nothing,
and I'm happy he's on my team. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, Roman Wilson is wide receiver ninety six.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
If he could establish himself as a three. That would
go a long way.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, Darius Slayton down at wide receiver one hundred mm.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I assume he'll be the opposite Wandell will be the third.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, Dontavian Wicks's wide receiver one oh six. He's still
a Dantavian Wicks believer.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Doesn't catch up ball very well. I had high hopes
for him last year. Yeah, he had slashes. Yeah, Drafting
two receivers is not a great shot in the arm.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, Trey Tucker was the Raiders receiver that we were
trying to think the other day, one fourteen on Trey Tucker.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But interesting, Yeah, how about a number two in New England?
It would be interesting to me. Whoever, Whoever's not Stefan Diggs,
it's Douglas. I guess it is Douglas. But I'm wondering
if Kyle Williams could go past them. Maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Not a wonderful rookie class. So it's not it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And you don't see a lot of those guys ranked
all that highly, unlike last year, where I thought some
of the rookies were overdrafted last year.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, exactly. Harris Harrison in particular, was like taking the
first round right.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Right, tap the brakes there a little bit, yeah, right,
but uh yeah, I think, uh, you know, Metcalf should
get a bump up and pick Pickens gets a slight bump,
and I don't think that affects ceed Lamb at all.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, I said, I did a Dynasty podcast this morning
with Marcus Mosher, who coincidentally I'm a Steeler guy. He's
a cowboy guy just happened to be on that day.
We both said, I'll give friar muth a little bump.
As it stands today, I'm giving Metcalf a maybe a
tear bump with knowing that if someone shows up, but
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he could go back to where he was. I gave
Pickens a slight nod up, and I gave didn't give
Lamb any bad stuff. I did say, if a number
one back emerges in Dallas, they'll be happy they have
George Pickens. I mean, they'll lighten up the box.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I right now, Metcalf's wide receiver thirty six is a low,
low end wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Three that's right, that's the way receiver. Two. Yeah, he's
in the top twenty four. I'm sure if I were
do right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
He is the Matt Wainers is getting ten targets a game,
right right, Metcalf's going to get ten. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,
you take that. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a break.
That was a Fantasy Football Focus for today. Tomorrow we'll
take a look at those tight ends and see where
things come kind of sword out there. But that was
Pro Football Focus's rankings. We'll be back with more right
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was actually thinking the exact same thing, I assume,
so I guess yeah, we'll do it in the same stratosphere, right,
Oh really together? Very googly on.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
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in a in a way. You know, when I woke
to the news this morning that the Steelers had traded George,
I wasn't I wasn't surprised that the Steelers had traded
George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I thought it might be coming.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
But you know, after the draft, I thought, well, you know,
they're probably gonna stick with this and see what it
looks like before anything happens.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You're it's a really good looking do I want to
see what I was intrigued. Yeah, I was intrigued by
what that might look like.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But I also understand the thought that what it might
look like might not be not on the field. I
do believe, even I firmly believe that it would have
helped the running game.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think, and it's a dangerous a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But I also understand the volatility of it all. I
don't you know, when we first started talking about when
the Steelers were, when Metcalf was raised as a possibility
at the trade deadline last year. I said, I don't
know if you can have George Pickens and DK Metcalf
on the field together because of the volatile, vital nature.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Of the duo. And I don't think there as redundant
as people think as players. They both get downfield, they're
both big, they're both fast, but they win different ways.
And I learned more of that after I really studied
Metcalf post Steeler trade. But you can't have two flags
a game between the two of your starting receivers and
you know what I mean, or whatever, or a blow
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up on the side. And I don't know that Metcalf
is Again. I don't think he's a diva or a
bad guy or anything, but I think he knows the
league knows they can get under his skin, you know,
like that hockey instigator or the guy that he would
not be the guy I would pick a fight with him.
I wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
If it were like a five to ten pound defensive back.
That's not the dude I want to get on the
wrong side of it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I'd let him punch me in the face mask for
a fifteen year od flag. If he's going to fall
for it. Yeah, so hopefully he realizes that's a problem too.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So he's just farther along on the maturity scale.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh yeah, yeah than Pickens's. I'm certainly sure of that
in the locker room, you know. And again, Pickens is
a bad guy, bef. He's not getting arrested, he's not
doing bad things, but just he's young and immature. You know.
I think they're both competitive. I think they both want
to win. They're both highly talented. But yeah, I think
you said it well, and I think Lab said the
same thing. Am I shocked and surprised? No, But I
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would have bet they went into training camp with Pickens
after the draft was in the black.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think, you know, you know, I just think that
the Cowboys looked at this and said, hey, we didn't
get the receiver. Yeah that we that we needed in
the draft.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
We weren't willing to give you three. Now we are.
Now we are.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
And I think that when there was a breaking point, yeah,
when they met the price, it's like.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, that'll do it now, Yeah that was the ask,
and we'll do it. Yeah. And I think maybe it
was Josie and Anderson are one of those said that
Dallas offered a four in the draft. Pittsburgh say, and
that's on four. I would not have been interested before.
I'm not sure i'd have done a three straight up
in the in the draft, you know, because of course
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you do things different, you know, you might not have drafted.
I assume you still would have taken Johnson the.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Way the draft fell, Well, let's go and take a
look at where Dallas picked him round three in what
was would have been available at that point. Remember at
that point, Kyle Williams had come off the board, like
that would have been a target for me. The Lions
had traded up for Isaac Tesla.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I wouldn't want to be in that market.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, where did Cowboys pick? They picked Chavon Revel. Okay,
at seventy six. Jalen Knowle was still there.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Okay, now that I would understood.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
But you didn't know that prior to a trade.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, like I imagine Cowboys are on the clock
in round three. They're probably not saying, hey, Steelers, we're
gonna give you the three now. They're probably like, Revel's here,
we're taking Yeah, we're taking Revel. Yeah, we have first
round grade on him. With the asterisk because of the injury. Right,
we're not moving off this pick.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The reason why they didn't take they could have taken Jail.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
In the one, because they could have taken it. That's
why why I was thinking that too.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The Steelers took Caleb Johnson in that round.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And I don't think they had gotten much different. Now,
if you have a four, would you traded next year's
four with his four to get Noel? Maybe? I mean
every there's a bout of fly effact. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Save On Williams was there, but I love saving wouldn't
do it for me? He went to the Packers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Uh, Noel's nol was the only one that I liked
enough to even consider. Again, I like, I.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Felt was the last pick of the of the of
the third round.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That doesn't that doesn't do it anyway too early. There
were some receivers one way too early.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, I think there was because of the lack of
receivers overall. In this draft. You saw some guys getting
over draft.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I'm not jumping in on them. Then it doesn't
make them better prospects. No, it doesn't at all.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know, if you start looking at that round two area,
you know, a lot of people thought, well, the Steelers
going to get a round to our second round pick
for George Pickens, And I don't think that was ever
in the cards. I don't think that was in the cards.
Jade and Higgins went in the second round.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Sure, I'd just swapped them straight up for Higgins. Luther
Burden went in the second round. Yes, I would have
done all those ummm, like I really Trey Harris went
in the second round, Okay, Jack Beck went in the
second round.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Which to me was a little high rich too. Right, Uh,
that was it there. This just wasn't a deep receiver draft,
which is why the Steelers made the Dk Metcalf trade
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All Right, Metcalf and Pickens are such great examples of this.
So many drafts in the last six to ten years.
You get great day two dudes. You know. DK Metcalf
was Yeah, Deontay Johns, he was a Steeler.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
DK Metcalf went to pick before Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It was sixty fifth over. Yeah, Pickens was late. And
this year that you weren't getting.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
The day just wasn't that kind of draft. We said
that all along with this. I didn't I didn't love
the receiver group. I liked some of those mid round receivers.
I don't like Jack Beckett. You know where he went, right, I.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Mean, if you made this deal, I'm not taking the
Bucca head of Harmon. No. Like again, yeah, it's it
wouldn't have it wasn't the path. Yeah, now I do
think that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Again, I think you can get a veteran receiver who
maybe he's not quite as good as George Pickens, but
you can replicate some of that production. And again I
don't I don't think with DK Metcalf on the roster,
are you gonna have enough passes available for both of
those guys to get eight to ten targets a game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, but you definitely don't want life without your number
one either, Right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's the problems. And we talked about that last offseason.
What happens if Pickens is out? Well, we saw what
happened this year when Pickens was out. It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, here's an old school stealer reference. I might
not need Swan and Stallworth, but I need Swan and
Jim Brown. You know I need Jimmy Brown, Jimmy Smith,
Jim Smith, Jermy Smith. I'd really dated myself there, but
he was like a great three for the seventies that
it started for everybody else. We had two All Famers
ahead of him. I don't need to All Famers or
two Pro Bowlers, but I can't have such a drop
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from my best receiver to my second best receiver. Yeah,
it's somebody in between there.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
And the thing is with receivers, it's all about getting
open h I mean for a long time, and he
might still hold the record, probably Antonio Brown. There was
a long period of time fifteen years where the guy
who held the record for most catches in a game
by a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You know who? I bet it's not Stallworth or some
obvious answer, right, Courtney Hawkins. Oh wow, kind of a jitterbug,
quick hitters, get the ball out. Hit a Welker feel
to him, right a little bit?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know that was you can
get You can get by with guys at that position.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You don't you don't have to have stars across the board,
No you don't, but you do have to have competent
NFL wide receivers, right, Like I'm not giving Van Jefferson
a hard time, but you can't go into season with
Van Jefferson's or two. And you would hope Austin's already
passed that and Wilson can get past that. But I
need somebody still in between there. Yeah, Like I'm not
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thrilled with the receiver room as constructed right this minute.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
They don't play tomorrow, they don't play them, they don't
play for the next they don't play next month, they
don't play the month after that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And we've said this a million times. They're not using
twelve draft picks next year. They're not.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And that's the thing to me, that is the difference
between this situation this year and the last years and
all that, right, Like you have all these picks, Like
if somebody says, hey, give us your we want a
five or four, okay, all.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Right, we got an extra one.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Like I'm not worried about going into this draft this
year going I don't have We don't We're next year going,
I've only got one fourth I've only got one fourth
round pick.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Right, or if it comes down to team X is
like we went a fourth and Steelers said we went
a five. All right, let's do it right, or.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You get into it like a lot of those situations
last year when you were talking to people at the
trade deadline because there were a lot of receivers move
maybe teammate once once, uh, who has DeAndre Hopkins for example,
when he moved. The Chiefs are offering, well, we got
two thirds, we can give you a or a four
or whatever it ended up being, and the Steelers going,
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we only have right now seven picks. You know, we
don't want to give up a fifth in the you know,
or fourth, or to go over top of an.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Extra six just to get over them or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, now it's like trade two. Yeah, I'll give you
a five and a seven, or I'll give.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You are will take what combination do you need because
I can create a lot of combinations to get it
better than the other team. I'm competing again, right and
I got so much cap space in cap space for
this year and next year, et cetera. Like, Okay, maybe
this guy's contracts a little rough. I can swallow it. Yeah,
it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Team B wants you to pick up five million of it.
We don't need you to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, we don't need to do that. And I'll give
you a slightly lesser pick or whatever however you want
to play it, I can contort my trades.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
It's like walking into the grocery store on payday, right.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Right, right, right. I didn't plan on buying that that steak,
but looks pretty good. It looks good.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's a good look at steak, and I got money.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I can afford it. Yeah, I think there's more coming,
you know, right, I'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Where if I'm going into the store and it's paydays
in two days and I'm like that steak looks the
steak looks pretty good, but I don't need it, right
right right?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah? Or better out and you walk into the bar
on pay day and buy you can get yourself a
little trouble that, but it's just you got a little
more cachet. Oh yeah, you've built it up for that reason. Yeah,
it's just your liquid.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, let's get through another break. He
is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening
to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt
now be back to finish up the show right after.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and goldr Steelers Nation radio man.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt
Williamson and Matt Sportslogos dot Net via CBS Sports reporting
that five teams we'll get a alternate helmet this year. Wow,
it's going to be announced this summer, Okay, and the
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five team games the Saints, the Chargers, the Browns, the Commanders,
and the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Really, how about that. I'm not big on logos and
all those things. I could care that people love that
all fired up.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Over oh the block letters, and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't care about any that stuff, really don't. But
the Browns are probably my least favorite helmet. Chargers might
be my favorite helmet, but partially because I was born
in nineteen seventy three and that was the only team
other than the Steelers I cared about because Dan Fouts
and they were way ahead of Theirs. They cool lightning bolts. Yeah,
but obviously the story here is the Steelers. Yeah, and
the Steelers obviously have a unique helmet in that their
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logos only on one side, you know, and it's hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
We've seen other helmets, you know, the color rushed stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, but just does that mean,
for like one game they'll do it that. I don't know,
I wonder. Yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Steelers and Chargers currently both have one base helmet for
of course, it's black for the Steelers, it's white for
the Chargers, but they've also used the yellow alternate helmet.
The Chargers have also worn a dark blue helmet in
the past, so we'll see. I don't know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I should know this. This is a really dumb question.
But the most teams have two helmets.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
A lot of them have different Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, I mean I know the Steelers have one. I
mean there's the same ones in your locker if your
home road play.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
The one helmet rule of Scott was scrapped in twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Before that was a rule.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, you had to have the same helmet no matter what,
unless you're doing throwbacks. Yeah, that's how you get the
silver just to play a silver lion's helmet.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I mean again, it's not my bag. I mean, I
know people were into that stuff. Or when my son
was young, he always like, this player wears these different
wrist bands. Was like ten me nuts. Yeah, you know,
I still umpire a lot of baseball games.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I do all different levels and all kinds of stuff,
and you'll see every kid now And actually Will Graves,
who is the Associated press writer in Pittsburgh, just wrote
about this.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, these the everybody's for lack of, for lack.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Of it's an oven mith that they that they base
runners wear on the bass pass.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Does it help that much? No? Is the thought that
you could break your fingers if they get wid.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Well, that's that's what the that's what major league players
wear for because when you're diving back into the base,
you want to have your hand protected because they play
one hundred and sixty two games a year and.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
They're millionaires and somebody's probably paying for them.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
But you see kids now wearing these things.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
As soon as they get on first, as soon as
they get on first, and at levels where they can't
even lead off the bag and they're not allowed to
r you're not allowed to slide head first, and they've
got there there because they see the pro guys.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I had a kid the one thing I was on
paying the game. This was a couple of years ago,
and there I'm in the field and there's the kids
leading off. It was an older level player and he's
diving back in the first he's got the other mid on,
but he's got the hand that he's reaching back to
get back to the bag with. Is not the hand
that he's got the other mid on.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Them one?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, okay, because it's the hand that you're going back
into the bag with.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
And I said to his dad after the game, I'm like,
he's got the other mid on the wrong hand.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's not even getting dirty.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
He's like, yeah, he ordered that online, you know, because
he thought it looked cool, but he ordered the wrong hand.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm like, kind of defeats.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
What's the correct hand, the hand that you're going back in?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
But is it always the same? Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I would it would be your left hand because it
no time are you ever going back to the bag
with your left hand. It should always be your right
hand because you're going back in.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Okay, I would think it would always be your left
because it's closer. Shows how I don't know baseball. If
I'm leading off first and I dive back in, isn't
it left closer?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
No, when it goes closer, but you're you're diving back in.
If you're if you're diving back in with your left hand.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You don't give as much ofmph. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Now you can go back in with your left hand
just you know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I mean if it's a lob over or whatever. Yeah, okay.
But interesting And a lot of these ones you can't
even slide head first.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Lot, Yeah, the younger leagues, a lot of them. You're
not allowed to slide head first.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
You Mentionine Pete Rose with an of them in on
or yeah, dude.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But I mean, so this stuff does matter. I mean,
kids look at this stuff, and there's no question I
want to I want to dress like Justin Jefferson. I put,
you're right, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I just never cared about it. It was never my
bag either. But like I could tell, my my son's
a lot more observant than me. I mean, he was
a kid, he's eighteen now. He knew everyone's dress code basically.
You know, he wears these cleats. He was a nerd
about it too. He knows I don't even know this stuff,
like all the different designs of helmets, like he wanted
to be an equipment guy. He's like, he should be
using these cleats, he should be using this helmet. I know,
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the different face masks, but I don't know the names
of the helmets or what who wears what. I'm actually
really bad about numbers. My mind just doesn't work that way.
And he knows every number in the whole league, and
it's just that I kind of get. I mean, yes,
it's definitely a weakness of mine. I don't know some
star player's numbers. I just don't see him that way
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for reason.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But I just always like one of the other things
is completely off tangent here. But you see all the
kids now, are all the younger players now because major again,
major league players do it. They've got the the elbow pad.
I was going to ask about the number they've got
the shint guard on. They get all that stuff on,
and then they run out and they get it. You know,
you get a double and the next thing you know,
the first base coach is standing over there and he's
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got twenty different guys stuff. He just holds everything. There's
ten different shin guards, there's five different elbow guards.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
They get a bunch of hits at it, and he's
busy holding.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Do you really need all that stuff for a youth
baseball game?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I guess next question, and I know you do older
players than this. These aren't you know, six seven year
olds that are afraid of the ball. But so many
kids in the batter's box are afraid of the ball.
Obviously they don't even want to be there. Mom and
dad said, you're playing. They're out there in jeans or whatever,
you know. But do some of these dudes that have
like the elbow stuff, does it help their fear? No? Yeah,
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they still don't want to get hit. I don't want to.
I'm still bail it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
it's not like you're in head to toe. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
There's there's there's a kid a video out there. It's
a he's a looks like what is a Pinto player?
Which is coach pitch and it's I see it on
Facebook all the time. In the he's got he's got
the sun like Oakley sunglasses on.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
They probably weren't cheap.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, in this, you know, one hundred dollars helmet and
all the gear.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Everyone has their own batting helmet now, right oh yeah yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Don't just throw the just all kinds of you know,
the eight hundred dollars bat and I'm like, and all
the comments on there are exactly what you would expect
like what are they doing with this? And like all
these videos is just showing the kids swinging the bat
in that instance, I don't even know if I blame
the kid.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
No, I would not say yes to that if you're
the best player in the league, right yeah, yeah, I'm
not paying all that stuff. I mean, I don't know
that we all need to share a cup like we
used to. Or here's three wooden bats. Another situation right here,
give Johnny your cup. Here you go off the rails here.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
But I'm one part of the game one time, and
I'm behind the plate and they're changing catchers. Catcher goes in,
the new catcher comes in and and he stops. He goes,
wait a second, I forgot to put in my cup. Okay,
I call time. He goes in to put it. He
had his cup he had inside his helmet that he
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was going to put on his face.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, at least he didn't set it like on his gatorade.
But it's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
You had your cup inside your helmet, you see. I
took it out when I was putting my stuff on.
I forgot to put it on. He said, I'm like
the cup and the helmet like the face mask, of
your of your of your helmet is going on your face.
Your cup is not something you won't have anywhere near
your face.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
There's molecules in between two and there's all kinds of
stuff that could go wrong with that one, right, Yeah,
yeah that should Now, I don't think it should be
our day where one cup is in the box that
they unlock, everybody shares, everyone shares, and it's full of
sand and that's not good either, hairs and whatever else.
There's a place for it though. Yeah, yeah, we've we're
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well passed that, well past that big day though. People
don't even share helmets. But do we really need Everyone
needs their own helmet to I don't know about that either, Yeah,
but anyways, but yeah, George Pickens traded Catcher's gear. It's
still pretty universal a lot of once they get older.
If you're a god, you have your own gear.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I'm because you don't want to have to adjust it
every time you put it on, right right right?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Okay, that I can understand, But I would think all
of mine, I mean there's a set of shing guards
and everything at Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
You get the league. The league gives you know, bags
to everybody. Yeah, includes catchers gear. Now they don't all
use it. But if you got somebody who's just learning
to catch, you don't have to go out and buy
all gear.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
You just throw this on see if you like it. Right,
But if you're good, you have your own stuff.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
If you're if you're a catcher by trade, you have
your own gear.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That makes sense. Yeah, like probably goldie pads the same way,
stuff like that, you know, right. Yeah, anyways, I know
goalies don't have to pay the league fee because it's
really expense for your kid to be a goalie. Expensive. Yeah. Yeah,
interesting show, how about that? That's what we're about. George
Pickens for two hours? Kind of did we kind of
did we were?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
We pretty much ran the gamut on everything that again,
who's available, who might be available? The ramifications of this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Tomorrow's Twitter Thursday. I'm sure a lot of you'll be
throwing names at us and stuff too.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Bring it on, Bring it on, That's what we're here for.
But that's going to do it for today's show. We
like to though, thank Bob Labriola for stopping by for
my partner Matt Williamson for CJ Wolfy here on site
running the soundboard and the well. Today it's a CJ
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listening to this edition of the Drive on the Steelers
Audio Network
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and
this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network. And
well our number two here, as we've been doing all
week long, we will dig into the pro football focused
fantasy football rankings. We've done quarterback, we've done running back.
We're a wide receiver today. How much that works out?
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Real quick question for you. Does DK go up?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes? Does Pickens go up or down?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I think now that we know exactly, we'll find out
where they haven't ranked here. Yeah, don't talk about it
then when we get to those spots. All right, I
don't know where he's at. I haven't looked ahead on these.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right, I'm sure this is pre trade that they came
out though.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So they got Jamar Chase number one and number one overall.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I get it, I get it. I mean it wasn't
the triple crown last year.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's pretty good at two and two overall? Is justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm not sure if I'd take him over Barkley considering
the quarterback situation. But I think he averages don't quote me,
but I think he averages more yards per game than
any wide receiver in NFL history. Pretty good, It's pretty good. Yeah,
this kind of speaks for himself.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
At four overall in our wide receiver three, Puka and Nakua.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh I would have Cede Lamb. I would too, He's next.
I think there's a top three and then you can
fight over who number four is. I can't take Nakupa
that he's really productive, he's very productive, but are we
forgetting that he missed a bunch of time last year.
Adam trusts must stay healthy, and I'm much I think
he's really really good. Like, I don't think he's a
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nice story for a fifth round pick. I think he's
one of the top end to twelve best receivers in
the game, but Adams is going to hurt him. It's yeah,
I mean Adams is a legit dude. He's a lot
better than the shallow Cooper Cup, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, And I just I don't trust it. Like I
wouldn't take him fourth overall, I wouldnt take him fifth over.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I don't think he'd be my top five receivers. Yeah,
it'd be a first rounder for me, but not that
would be I'm picking ninth.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Okay, I gotta take hope he stays healthy.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Like I'm not taking him. I don't think over his style.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Will play lends itself to getting.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hurt and they throw him around too. It's part of
it's his style play mixed with the offense.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Where they throw him the football at oh, he'll.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Lock defensive ends and yeah right yeah uh. At six
overall and wide receiver for Seed Lamb, I don't think
this hurts him at all the trade. I think he'll
get higher quality targets, maybe fifteen to twenty less though
over the course of the year he's gonna see he's
going to get one hundred and fifteen, get a bazillion,
and he'll get less doubles. Yeah, I mean, he might
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have been the most double receiver in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Wide receiver five and seven overall is a Monross Saint Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
He's as safe as they come. Yeah, and for that
reason I'd have him over Nikua. I still think Lamb's
closer to the top two.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
At ten overall and wide receiver six Nico Collins.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I'm one hundred percent on board. I also would have
him over Nikua. I don't know Nico or Saint Brown.
For you, I would probably go Saint Brown, obviously very
close by the your tone the area.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
At twelve overall and wide receiver seven mylik Neighbors. So
they're saying there should be seven wide receivers in a
twelve team PPR league.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
This is a problem with that. I mean, his target
share was insane when he was healthy last year, same coach,
he was getting like forty percent of the targets.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
At thirteen and wide receiver eight is Brian Thomas. So
you could come out of that if you had the
twelfth and the twelfth pick, you could come out with
I think Neighbors and Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I like it new coach, but I think they're gonna
use him a little more in the slot from what
I understand, which I didn't see coming. But he also
has some Mike Evans traits. I don't think Hunter going
there really hurts him either. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Right At sixteen overall and wide receiver nine is a J.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Brown. This doesn't get the volume. I can't. I can't.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I can't use the sixteenth pick in the draft on
a J.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Brown. Much as good player love the player, it's unfortunate
because he's much better in real life than fantasy. There's
a lot of fourth quarters and second halves where hurts
my throat, like six passes it. Yeah, yeah, I mean
like Harley throws ball at all.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I would take this next guy over him, even though
the quarterback situation is a little Drake London at twenty
and wide receiver would two.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I would to London's game of talent. Yeah yeah, pits
pits and Mooney, you're well down there.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
This guy would not be my wide receiver eleven or
number twenty four. Wide receiver eleven is still.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
On your on your fantasy disposition is a big time
spot t Higgins. It's a little early, but boy, he
put up huge numbers even when when they both were healthy.
They throw the ball in the right I get it.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
But there are times where again Burrow just gets eyes
for Chase. All he does he does, and you're going
watch I'm watching. I had Higgins on my team last year,
traded for him, and I'm like, I know he got
cut and I picked him up laughable, But I'm like,
and there would be games I'm watching the Bengals again,
the Bengals around all the time. I'm watching them, I'm
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seeing them in person, and I'm like, Higgins is wide
open there and Burrow's going underneath to Chase with two
guys on him.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I mean, Chase is that good? I get it. Sure,
Sure he demands targets, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But you're just ignoring T. Higgins for large stretches of
the game.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Eleven is a little I can't.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Go eleven compared to some of these guys who.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Are right behind. It's such a competitive position. But I
wouldn't have him a whole lot lower.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
At twenty six overall at wide receiver twelve, lad Mconkie.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, he's clearly the one. Yeah, clearly the clear.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I can't take somebody's number two receiver is my number
one fantasy receiver. Yeah, that's just asking for trouble. Yeah,
thirty Wide receiver thirteen is Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know what to think about him. Love the talent,
he's clearly, clearly, clearly the one. Yeah, I don't think
they're gonna throw it much, and I don't know the
fields is super conducive to great ride receiver play. Yeah,
but you could convince me to take him around that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
At thirty three, Wide receiver fourteen is Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'd be scared. I'm more concerned. Yeah, i'd be scared.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
This next guy should be rated higher. Wide receiver fifteen,
thirty fourth overall Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, Deebo doesn't worry.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
It doesn't worry me at all. Like who's catching balls
in a team.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I think that offense is going to be phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
He hit some monster games.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
If you look at Washington too, all of a sudden,
they remind me the Bengals. Their defense is pretty suspect
and old. The offense is loaded, big time quarterback. They
could be in a lot of shootouts.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
At forty two overall wide receiver sixteen Davonte Adams.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's about right. That's this is.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
More of the area where I would have Higgins at
down in this as a number two.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Really good number two. Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
At forty four, Jackson Smith and Jigbow Wide receiver seventeen
PPR two.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is PPR leans more his direction a little bit.
He's gonna get a lot of targets.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
At forty five and wide receiver eighteen is Dj Moore.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I'd be a little concerned with that. I don't know
that he's gonna get a huge target share.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
At forty six Wide receiver nineteen Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Still really good. Baker loves him. They using a lot
of ways. I'm cool with that too.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
At forty eight Wide receiver twenty had a sight out
of mind is Rashid Rice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I've heard a lot of people say and they'd rather
have Worthy than Rice. I don't see that at all,
especially in PPR. Yeah, Rice is the move, the chains guy.
I think Kelsey's roll is going to continue to diminish
and Rice take some of that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I mean they'll manufacture some stuff for Worthy just because
they want to get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Oh yeah, yeah. But Rice is the number one. He's
the chain mover. He's, you know, a physical guy. He
was great last year before his injury.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
At forty nine and wide receiver twenty one is Marvin
Harrison Junior.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
A bit of a leap of faith, but I guess
that's about where he belongs. He could blow up.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
He was getting drafted ahead of that last year.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, last year was a little crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
At fifty wide receiver twenty two Devonte Smith.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
He would be the last guy we brought up.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I can't two receivers out of that. It's the thing
offense in the top twenty two.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
They just announced too that they rework Goddard's contract. He's
on down and he's not going anywhere, right, I mean
they're going to be It's gonna be hard to feed
those three.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
At fifty one wide receiver twenty three is Teed McMillan.
I can't go there. Yeah, that's a leap.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Of I mean McMillan vers DeVante Smith. I probably am
not buying either at that price. I bet there's gonna
be names that come up that are better, but they're
definitely the worst two we've mentioned.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
At fifty two wide receiver twenty four is Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm not totally sold there either. I mean that three
in a row. None of them are having me do
jumping jacks for what you have to pay for him.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Fifty three wide receiver twenty five is z A. Flowers PPR.
Do you think he gets more than he has? Hopkins
doesn't worry me.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
No, Hopkins doesn't worry me.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's a tight ends and I think he should be
a little bit higher than that.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I might take him over all three of those guys. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
At fifty five wide receiver twenty six is Chris Lave.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He's even a massive He's like Wilson. He's gonna get
a massive target share.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I just worry about the concussion stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It is a concern.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
At fifty seven, wide receiver twenty seven is Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's pretty productive now, clear number one. There's not much
getting in his way. They gave him some money recently.
He's not young, but who cares.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
At fifty eight wide receiver twenty eight is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'd love to have him on a team. I don't
know if I can pay that price for him. He
could blow up, but that could be next year too. Yeah,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Fifty nine wide receiver twenty nine is Jaylen Waddell.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh, I'd have him higher. I would too. I'd have
him higher than the last five or six games we have.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
We get some other teams here lost they still haven't.
We haven't gotten to the number one receiver right now.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
And sixty two wide receiver thirty is Jordan Addison.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He's never really been for me. It's it's just gonna
be so hit and miss. Yeah, he's good, but I
think i'd rather like Davante.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I mean, we are in the wide receiver three yeah, territory.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
We're not expecting them to all be Randy Moss.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
But it's sixty four. I don't understand how he could
be this high wide receiver. Thirty one is Brandon Ayuk.
He's not gonna play until mid season.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah, if that's true, he's probably not even draftable.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, you're not gonna don't waste a bench spot on him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Like times have change obviously in the last twenty four hours.
Else make that much, but I'd have metcalf over most
of these guys were talking about now. I think even
pre Trader would have had probably yeah, higher than than
Davante Smith pretty much on down. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Sixty five is Jamison Williams wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Thirty two. I'm starting to buy into it. They seem
to really like him.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Sixty seven is one of those wide receiver ones. It's
well below a lot of these guys that were wide
receiver twos. And I know you don't love the player,
but Jerry Jude, who else is getting the football.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
In the right doesn't really matter who the quarterback is.
Flacco's actually very friendly for fans. Oh yeah, nobody cares
we throw his picks or whatever. Tilman could be on
my team too, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
They were. They were throwing the ball over the place.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah yeah, I don't know who kind of right when
Winston was.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Winston was in there last year, and Flacco's just an
extension of Winston.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Very similar. Yeah, and the Joku as well. Those three
pass catchers will get a lot of Pat got a
lot of targets.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Uh sixty eight. Wide receiver thirty four, Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
You're not worried about the aute cutting into a.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Judybout the deal he signed vet minimum, no money guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I mean, like he makes the team. I'm gonna have
a hard time investing in debo. Yeah, I just think
he's had such wear and tear. Seventy Wide receiver thirty
five is Chris Godwin that I was gonna bring him
up when we talked about Evans. He was like wide
receiver three when he hurt last year. Now, maybe they
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bring him along slow after drafting Abuca, but they wouldn't
given that money if they were at all worried about
his no, his knee, and he could be their wife
one angle right now, he might be twenty spots too low.
He way too low on my list. Yeah, that maybe
I'll do a little work on the injury. But and
I'm sure you don't see him in the preseason, but.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
We'll get news if he's practicing or not.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, he's a stud.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Seventy five. Wide receiver thirty six is dk metcalf.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Too low then, way too low now? Yeah, I think
he belonged ibut with Duante Smith. That seems like the
line to me, guys above him were pretty strong.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So you'd have him wide receiver twenty twoish in that range. Yeah,
he's a clear cut number one receiver on an NFL team.
Like I don't understand why he guys like that. I
understand there's some you know, unsettled right right right right
quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't think RUDOLPH'SNNA throwing the ball. I'd of Godwin
ahead of him. Yeah, I think god Wins too low,
way too low, right, Jerry Judy's too low. Probably, Yeah,
this guy's probably too low.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Wide receiver thirty seven at seventy six. Jakobe Myers. Now
he's he's the number two.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah, he's not gonna win your league, but he.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Should be a he's a solid wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Three. He's got a lot better quarterback thrown to him
this year. Yeah, Bowers will get his fine, but then
Myers is going to catch ninety balls. I think so.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean that's what he I think he gets five
or six a game. Yeah, yeah, seventy nine. Ooh, wide
receiver thirty eight Cooper Cup Nope, ooh, nope.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I'm not buying that. I bet he doesn't play.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
They're not going to manufacture catches for him in Seattle,
like they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
He doesn't have the Stafford connection. Their ability really worries me,
and separation really worries me.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, eighty Wide receiver thirty nine is one Jennings.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes, I think he's like his under rased you get
again if I because out, Yeah, Debo's gone, Debo's gone, right,
Will seersall's in the mix and Kittles the same roles
all number one. He was really productive, Like, yeah, why
would he change? I don't I don't understand that at all. No, No,
I think him verse Judy is a conversation to me.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, he's fifteen spots too long.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, yep, yeah, it's not a brand name guy. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Eighty one Wide receiver forty but uh Golden hmm, I.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Don't know, but you rather have Golden or Reid Reid?
I think i'd rather read. Yeah, he's worked at the
quarterback the last couple years. I think he's really underrated.
I think he's good. Yeah. The Packers said, hey, we'll
give you read them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd be calling
at him right now, right, Yeah, that's rich eighty three.
There's still a lot of good names out there.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Wide receiver forty one, and they already have made the
change to Dallas on here, George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I'd probably still go higher if he's.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Wide receiver forty one in fantasy. George isn't going to
be happy.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Oh no. I think he gets a slight bump with
this trade, just because I think they'll throw the ball more.
I know it won't be Rudelph, but I'll trust Dak,
but not a huge bump.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
George is gonna get angry. Eighty four Wide receiver forty two.
Roma Dunze.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I guess didn't do a lot last year, but I
really liked him coming out of school.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, here's another guy's wide receiver one on his team,
eighty five wide receiver forty three, Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I would have him a lot higher.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I would have him way higher, right, Like some of
these guys are number two's on her teams and threes.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I almost cop Can the Steelers trade for him? Guy?
But I thought about that. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, they
got a rookie quarterback. They probably to give him somebody.
It's right, right, But I think Ridley's going to be
I'll get a lot of actions.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Here's another one wide receiver forty four, ninety six overall,
Leo Shakir.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They signed Elijah Moore and they got a million slides.
Doesn't bother.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
That doesn't move the needle from me. Whatever. The next
time Elijah Moore shows that he can play in a
consistent basis will be.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
The first time. I just mean there's a lot of
I'd get it, and he's the number one umber one.
I don't think that's a crazy ranking for him though.
PPR should be PPR. Yeah you forgetting this is PPR.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
But ninety eight wide receiver forty five Stefan Diggs, I'm
probably on board.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Fair. Yeah, I think that's fair, assuming there's no lingering issues.
I think that's fair.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
One hundred wide receiver forty six, Rashid Shaheed.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yes, now I don't love it if it's Schucker Rattler. Yeah,
you know, but he's good at football.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
One fourteen wide receiver forty seven. If you could pry
this guy away from this team, it would be nice.
Darnell Mooney, Yeah, I don't think he can. I don't
think he can, though, and.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I think of a very similar year to he last year,
which was really good. It's good. Yeah. I got a
lot of Mooney stuff on Twitter to like, I just
got ignored. I don't think there's any change.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, that may be an over the moon type.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And he's not even great.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
It's just he's a good number two. I'm really happy with.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Signing him, and he gave him more than they wanted.
I mean, it's a perfect fit for him. Why would
they move on from.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
One eighteen Wide receiver forty eight is Jaden Reid he's
buying Oh he's too low.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm buying it that no doubt. Oh he's a playmaker man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, there's like five guys in this area that I
would take and I'll bet three of them are just
wide receiver twos all season one.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah yeah, Reed could be their best guy. He could
be number one, right right? Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
One nineteen Wide receiver forty nine Josh Downs.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I'm in on that too, even if it's Richardson. I
think Downs is. They haven't mentioned Pittman either, none of these.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Next god receiver fifty at one twenty four is Michael Pittan.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's almost my questions. Who would you rather have for
Fantasy BPR? I think I get those two being close,
Oh yeah yeah, and it's not gonna be a great accuracy,
pass involvement volume team.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Wide receiver fifty one is Keon Coleman.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Oh, I don't put him with that group. I think
he might be a boss, but I'm not ready to
say that. But it's one year right now. Yeah, but
he's worried.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
One twenty eight is a Meccagbuka. At wide receiver fifty two,
I don't think he can see the field much early. Yeah,
what's what's the path to a bunch of catches there
for him?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Right? I mean, assuming Godin's healthy, which I guess they're not.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Assuming they get a really good running back and running
game right, two receivers ahead of him who are going.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
To get the football. McMillan's not bad.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah, McMillan's good, right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It might be a semi red shirt year. He might
end up with five hundred yards if that. Yeah, I
mean that's not that's not a wide receiver three.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
No, Wide receiver fifty three at one thirty six is
Ricky Piersoll. Maybe a little bit of a leap of faith.
I didn't do much of anything last year.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, I mean he also got a shot. He did.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Not in Denver at one up at the end.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Not real, not real? Yeah, yeah, he had like one game. Yeah,
I would say there was one spark there somewhere. Wide
receiver fifty four is Luther Burden. Maybe. I mean if
DJ Morgan would happen to get moved to the moon
with Burden, Yeah, I think that's the That's why I
bring up DJ Moore. Burden's a lot like him, or
they won't get the burden in hand.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah. One wide receiver fifty five is Christian Kirk.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Got a little cloudy for him over the draft, it did.
I mean it looked really nice when he's clearly the two,
but now there's warm right.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah. Marvin Mims is at wide receiver fifty six.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Cedric Tillman is wide receiver fifty.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Seven, but bump him up higher. I think he's the two.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Quinton Johnston at wide receiver fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Does Mike Williams hurt him at all? No? I don't
think that. I'm not a big Johnston fan though.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Jayden Higgins with the Texans is wide receiver fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Maybe or he could have a total red shirt year too,
who knows.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
We're down into the one fifties now. Over All, UH
wide receiver sixty we Sean Bateman.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I would have him higher than some of these guys.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
He's a spot starter. Yeah, yeah, he's facing a wide
receiver four yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Adam Thielen at wide receiver sixty one.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I think he's still good. Almost brought him up with
the Steelers. Yeah. I mean he's one hundred years old
and he's a slot said.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
This is probably his last year, right, Okay, UH wide
receiver sixty two. Marquise Brown, he's kind of he could
come back a sight out of mind.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, right, he could come back and then coming big.
They throw deep a little more.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Romeo Dobbs is Wide receiver sixty three.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I guess it would be my third packer. I mean
he's ahead of Wicks, but I would still have my
behind golden and definitely read. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Wide receiver sixty four is Jack Beck.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I guess he's pretty NFL ready. It's not a road
and there's no ceiling there.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Adam and I Mitchell at sixty five.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I'm still a fan.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
A third Colts wide receiver receiver right and pierces out there.
They can put like fifteen passes a game and there's
a first round by Dad. Wide receiver sixty six is
Xavier Lagette.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, he's like Coleman to me. But we'll see if
they can take a jump in here too.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
At one sixty five. Wide receiver sixty seven is to
Mario Douglas.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That's doesn't move the needle lot for me.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm just looking here through this Antonio or uh Alec
Pierce at seventy one, So four Colts wide receivers in
the top seventy one.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Maybe you could probably Pittman away from maybe.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, uh you got h who else were looking at?
I'm just seeing if anybody else stands out here.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Like DeAndre Hopkins isn't even on the list barely trying
to think of some of the older guys that are
A Marii Cooper.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah he's on he's here. A Mariy Cooper is right now,
wide receiver seventy two.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I would take him with that. He's gonna play football
for someone.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And Keenan Allen's at wide receiver eighty.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I mean, obviously, how do you rank you guys on
a team?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But DeAndre Hopkins is wide receiver eighty three. He's all
the way down there.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I say, you even know his team?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, Calvin Austin is a wide receiver eighty eight, two
fifty seven overall, so basically undraftable. Alan Lazard is wide
receiver ninety Do.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
We think he's the Jets number two? Probably? Yeah? Rightlson,
Yeah he is.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Jalen Cocher, who he talked about I think is better
than people I like to stand wide receiver ninety one.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That's one of the fun things about Dynasty is like
I picked him up halfway through the season for nothing,
and I'm happy he's on my team. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, Roman Wilson is wide receiver ninety six.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
If he could establish himself as a three. That would
go a long way.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, Darius Slayton down at wide receiver one hundred mm.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I assume he'll be the opposite Wandell will be the third.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, Dontavian Wicks's wide receiver one oh six. He's still
a Dantavian Wicks believer.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Doesn't catch up ball very well. I had high hopes
for him last year. Yeah, he had slashes. Yeah, Drafting
two receivers is not a great shot in the arm.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, Trey Tucker was the Raiders receiver that we were
trying to think the other day, one fourteen on Trey Tucker.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
But interesting, Yeah, how about a number two in New England?
It would be interesting to me. Whoever, Whoever's not Stefan Diggs,
it's Douglas. I guess it is Douglas. But I'm wondering
if Kyle Williams could go past them. Maybe maybe.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Not a wonderful rookie class. So it's not it's not.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
And you don't see a lot of those guys ranked
all that highly, unlike last year, where I thought some
of the rookies were overdrafted last year.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, exactly. Harris Harrison in particular, was like taking the
first round right.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Right, tap the brakes there a little bit, yeah, right,
but uh yeah, I think, uh, you know, Metcalf should
get a bump up and pick Pickens gets a slight bump,
and I don't think that affects ceed Lamb at all.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, I said, I did a Dynasty podcast this morning
with Marcus Mosher, who coincidentally I'm a Steeler guy. He's
a cowboy guy just happened to be on that day.
We both said, I'll give friar muth a little bump.
As it stands today, I'm giving Metcalf a maybe a
tear bump with knowing that if someone shows up, but
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he could go back to where he was. I gave
Pickens a slight nod up, and I gave didn't give
Lamb any bad stuff. I did say, if a number
one back emerges in Dallas, they'll be happy they have
George Pickens. I mean, they'll lighten up the box.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I right now, Metcalf's wide receiver thirty six is a low,
low end wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Three that's right, that's the way receiver. Two. Yeah, he's
in the top twenty four. I'm sure if I were
do right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
He is the Matt Wainers is getting ten targets a game,
right right, Metcalf's going to get ten. That's pretty good. Yeah, yeah,
you take that. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a break.
That was a Fantasy Football Focus for today. Tomorrow we'll
take a look at those tight ends and see where
things come kind of sword out there. But that was
Pro Football Focus's rankings. We'll be back with more right
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Speaker 2 (26:46):
I was actually thinking the exact same thing, I assume,
so I guess yeah, we'll do it in the same stratosphere, right,
Oh really together? Very googly on.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
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in a in a way. You know, when I woke
to the news this morning that the Steelers had traded George,
I wasn't I wasn't surprised that the Steelers had traded
George Pickens.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I thought it might be coming.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
But you know, after the draft, I thought, well, you know,
they're probably gonna stick with this and see what it
looks like before anything happens.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
You're it's a really good looking do I want to
see what I was intrigued. Yeah, I was intrigued by
what that might look like.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
But I also understand the thought that what it might
look like might not be not on the field. I
do believe, even I firmly believe that it would have
helped the running game.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I think, and it's a dangerous a lot of players.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But I also understand the volatility of it all. I
don't you know, when we first started talking about when
the Steelers were, when Metcalf was raised as a possibility
at the trade deadline last year. I said, I don't
know if you can have George Pickens and DK Metcalf
on the field together because of the volatile, vital nature.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Of the duo. And I don't think there as redundant
as people think as players. They both get downfield, they're
both big, they're both fast, but they win different ways.
And I learned more of that after I really studied
Metcalf post Steeler trade. But you can't have two flags
a game between the two of your starting receivers and
you know what I mean, or whatever, or a blow
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up on the side. And I don't know that Metcalf
is Again. I don't think he's a diva or a
bad guy or anything, but I think he knows the
league knows they can get under his skin, you know,
like that hockey instigator or the guy that he would
not be the guy I would pick a fight with him.
I wouldn't either.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
If it were like a five to ten pound defensive back.
That's not the dude I want to get on the
wrong side of it.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I'd let him punch me in the face mask for
a fifteen year od flag. If he's going to fall
for it. Yeah, so hopefully he realizes that's a problem too.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
So he's just farther along on the maturity scale.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh yeah, yeah than Pickens's. I'm certainly sure of that
in the locker room, you know. And again, Pickens is
a bad guy, bef. He's not getting arrested, he's not
doing bad things, but just he's young and immature. You know.
I think they're both competitive. I think they both want
to win. They're both highly talented. But yeah, I think
you said it well, and I think Lab said the
same thing. Am I shocked and surprised? No, But I
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would have bet they went into training camp with Pickens
after the draft was in the black.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
I think, you know, you know, I just think that
the Cowboys looked at this and said, hey, we didn't
get the receiver. Yeah that we that we needed in
the draft.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
We weren't willing to give you three. Now we are.
Now we are.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
And I think that when there was a breaking point, yeah,
when they met the price, it's like.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay, that'll do it now, Yeah that was the ask,
and we'll do it. Yeah. And I think maybe it
was Josie and Anderson are one of those said that
Dallas offered a four in the draft. Pittsburgh say, and
that's on four. I would not have been interested before.
I'm not sure i'd have done a three straight up
in the in the draft, you know, because of course
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you do things different, you know, you might not have drafted.
I assume you still would have taken Johnson the.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Way the draft fell, Well, let's go and take a
look at where Dallas picked him round three in what
was would have been available at that point. Remember at
that point, Kyle Williams had come off the board, like
that would have been a target for me. The Lions
had traded up for Isaac Tesla.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
I wouldn't want to be in that market.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah, where did Cowboys pick? They picked Chavon Revel. Okay,
at seventy six. Jalen Knowle was still there.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Okay, now that I would understood.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
But you didn't know that prior to a trade.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I mean, like I imagine Cowboys are on the clock
in round three. They're probably not saying, hey, Steelers, we're
gonna give you the three now. They're probably like, Revel's here,
we're taking Yeah, we're taking Revel. Yeah, we have first
round grade on him. With the asterisk because of the injury. Right,
we're not moving off this pick.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
The reason why they didn't take they could have taken Jail.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
In the one, because they could have taken it. That's
why why I was thinking that too.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
The Steelers took Caleb Johnson in that round.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
And I don't think they had gotten much different. Now,
if you have a four, would you traded next year's
four with his four to get Noel? Maybe? I mean
every there's a bout of fly effact. Who knows.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Save On Williams was there, but I love saving wouldn't
do it for me? He went to the Packers.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Uh, Noel's nol was the only one that I liked
enough to even consider. Again, I like, I.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Felt was the last pick of the of the of
the third round.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That doesn't that doesn't do it anyway too early. There
were some receivers one way too early.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yeah, I think there was because of the lack of
receivers overall. In this draft. You saw some guys getting
over draft.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And I'm not jumping in on them. Then it doesn't
make them better prospects. No, it doesn't at all.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
You know, if you start looking at that round two area,
you know, a lot of people thought, well, the Steelers
going to get a round to our second round pick
for George Pickens, And I don't think that was ever
in the cards. I don't think that was in the cards.
Jade and Higgins went in the second round.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Sure, I'd just swapped them straight up for Higgins. Luther
Burden went in the second round. Yes, I would have
done all those ummm, like I really Trey Harris went
in the second round, Okay, Jack Beck went in the
second round.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Which to me was a little high rich too. Right, Uh,
that was it there. This just wasn't a deep receiver draft,
which is why the Steelers made the Dk Metcalf trade
to begin with.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
All Right, Metcalf and Pickens are such great examples of this.
So many drafts in the last six to ten years.
You get great day two dudes. You know. DK Metcalf
was Yeah, Deontay Johns, he was a Steeler.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
DK Metcalf went to pick before Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It was sixty fifth over. Yeah, Pickens was late. And
this year that you weren't getting.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
The day just wasn't that kind of draft. We said
that all along with this. I didn't I didn't love
the receiver group. I liked some of those mid round receivers.
I don't like Jack Beckett. You know where he went, right, I.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Mean, if you made this deal, I'm not taking the
Bucca head of Harmon. No. Like again, yeah, it's it
wouldn't have it wasn't the path. Yeah, now I do
think that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Again, I think you can get a veteran receiver who
maybe he's not quite as good as George Pickens, but
you can replicate some of that production. And again I
don't I don't think with DK Metcalf on the roster,
are you gonna have enough passes available for both of
those guys to get eight to ten targets a game.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
No, but you definitely don't want life without your number
one either, Right.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's the problems. And we talked about that last offseason.
What happens if Pickens is out? Well, we saw what
happened this year when Pickens was out. It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I mean, here's an old school stealer reference. I might
not need Swan and Stallworth, but I need Swan and
Jim Brown. You know I need Jimmy Brown, Jimmy Smith,
Jim Smith, Jermy Smith. I'd really dated myself there, but
he was like a great three for the seventies that
it started for everybody else. We had two All Famers
ahead of him. I don't need to All Famers or
two Pro Bowlers, but I can't have such a drop
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from my best receiver to my second best receiver. Yeah,
it's somebody in between there.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
And the thing is with receivers, it's all about getting
open h I mean for a long time, and he
might still hold the record, probably Antonio Brown. There was
a long period of time fifteen years where the guy
who held the record for most catches in a game
by a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
You know who? I bet it's not Stallworth or some
obvious answer, right, Courtney Hawkins. Oh wow, kind of a jitterbug,
quick hitters, get the ball out. Hit a Welker feel
to him, right a little bit?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you know that was you can
get You can get by with guys at that position.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You don't you don't have to have stars across the board,
No you don't, but you do have to have competent
NFL wide receivers, right, Like I'm not giving Van Jefferson
a hard time, but you can't go into season with
Van Jefferson's or two. And you would hope Austin's already
passed that and Wilson can get past that. But I
need somebody still in between there. Yeah, Like I'm not
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thrilled with the receiver room as constructed right this minute.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
They don't play tomorrow, they don't play them, they don't
play for the next they don't play next month, they
don't play the month after that.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
And we've said this a million times. They're not using
twelve draft picks next year. They're not.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
And that's the thing to me, that is the difference
between this situation this year and the last years and
all that, right, Like you have all these picks, Like
if somebody says, hey, give us your we want a
five or four, okay, all.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Right, we got an extra one.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Like I'm not worried about going into this draft this
year going I don't have We don't We're next year going,
I've only got one fourth I've only got one fourth
round pick.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Right, or if it comes down to team X is
like we went a fourth and Steelers said we went
a five. All right, let's do it right, or.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You get into it like a lot of those situations
last year when you were talking to people at the
trade deadline because there were a lot of receivers move
maybe teammate once once, uh, who has DeAndre Hopkins for example,
when he moved. The Chiefs are offering, well, we got
two thirds, we can give you a or a four
or whatever it ended up being, and the Steelers going,
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we only have right now seven picks. You know, we
don't want to give up a fifth in the you know,
or fourth, or to go over top of an.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Extra six just to get over them or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, now it's like trade two. Yeah, I'll give you
a five and a seven, or I'll give.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
You are will take what combination do you need because
I can create a lot of combinations to get it
better than the other team. I'm competing again, right and
I got so much cap space in cap space for
this year and next year, et cetera. Like, Okay, maybe
this guy's contracts a little rough. I can swallow it. Yeah,
it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Team B wants you to pick up five million of it.
We don't need you to do that.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, we don't need to do that. And I'll give
you a slightly lesser pick or whatever however you want
to play it, I can contort my trades.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
It's like walking into the grocery store on payday, right.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Right, right, right. I didn't plan on buying that that steak,
but looks pretty good. It looks good.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
It's a good look at steak, and I got money.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I can afford it. Yeah, I think there's more coming,
you know, right, I'll be all right.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Where if I'm going into the store and it's paydays
in two days and I'm like that steak looks the
steak looks pretty good, but I don't need it, right
right right?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Yeah? Or better out and you walk into the bar
on pay day and buy you can get yourself a
little trouble that, but it's just you got a little
more cachet. Oh yeah, you've built it up for that reason. Yeah,
it's just your liquid.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, let's get through another break. He
is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening
to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt
now be back to finish up the show right after.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
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that five teams we'll get a alternate helmet this year. Wow,
it's going to be announced this summer, Okay, and the
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five team games the Saints, the Chargers, the Browns, the Commanders,
and the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Really, how about that. I'm not big on logos and
all those things. I could care that people love that
all fired up.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Over oh the block letters, and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
I don't care about any that stuff, really don't. But
the Browns are probably my least favorite helmet. Chargers might
be my favorite helmet, but partially because I was born
in nineteen seventy three and that was the only team
other than the Steelers I cared about because Dan Fouts
and they were way ahead of Theirs. They cool lightning bolts. Yeah,
but obviously the story here is the Steelers. Yeah, and
the Steelers obviously have a unique helmet in that their
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logos only on one side, you know, and it's hasn't changed.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
We've seen other helmets, you know, the color rushed stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, but just does that mean,
for like one game they'll do it that. I don't know,
I wonder. Yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Steelers and Chargers currently both have one base helmet for
of course, it's black for the Steelers, it's white for
the Chargers, but they've also used the yellow alternate helmet.
The Chargers have also worn a dark blue helmet in
the past, so we'll see. I don't know, it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I should know this. This is a really dumb question.
But the most teams have two helmets.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
A lot of them have different Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, I mean I know the Steelers have one. I
mean there's the same ones in your locker if your
home road play.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
The one helmet rule of Scott was scrapped in twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Before that was a rule.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Yeah, you had to have the same helmet no matter what,
unless you're doing throwbacks. Yeah, that's how you get the
silver just to play a silver lion's helmet.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I mean again, it's not my bag. I mean, I
know people were into that stuff. Or when my son
was young, he always like, this player wears these different
wrist bands. Was like ten me nuts. Yeah, you know,
I still umpire a lot of baseball games.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
I do all different levels and all kinds of stuff,
and you'll see every kid now And actually Will Graves,
who is the Associated press writer in Pittsburgh, just wrote
about this.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, these the everybody's for lack of, for lack.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Of it's an oven mith that they that they base
runners wear on the bass pass.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
Does it help that much? No? Is the thought that
you could break your fingers if they get wid.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Well, that's that's what the that's what major league players
wear for because when you're diving back into the base,
you want to have your hand protected because they play
one hundred and sixty two games a year and.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
They're millionaires and somebody's probably paying for them.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
But you see kids now wearing these things.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
As soon as they get on first, as soon as
they get on first, and at levels where they can't
even lead off the bag and they're not allowed to
r you're not allowed to slide head first, and they've
got there there because they see the pro guys.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
I had a kid the one thing I was on
paying the game. This was a couple of years ago,
and there I'm in the field and there's the kids
leading off. It was an older level player and he's
diving back in the first he's got the other mid on,
but he's got the hand that he's reaching back to
get back to the bag with. Is not the hand
that he's got the other mid on.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Them one?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, okay, because it's the hand that you're going back
into the bag with.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Ye.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
And I said to his dad after the game, I'm like,
he's got the other mid on the wrong hand.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It's not even getting dirty.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
He's like, yeah, he ordered that online, you know, because
he thought it looked cool, but he ordered the wrong hand.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm like, kind of defeats.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
What's the correct hand, the hand that you're going back in?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
But is it always the same? Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I would it would be your left hand because it
no time are you ever going back to the bag
with your left hand. It should always be your right
hand because you're going back in.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Okay, I would think it would always be your left
because it's closer. Shows how I don't know baseball. If
I'm leading off first and I dive back in, isn't
it left closer?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
No, when it goes closer, but you're you're diving back in.
If you're if you're diving back in with your left hand.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
You don't give as much ofmph. Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Now you can go back in with your left hand
just you know.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I mean if it's a lob over or whatever. Yeah, okay.
But interesting And a lot of these ones you can't
even slide head first.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Lot, Yeah, the younger leagues, a lot of them. You're
not allowed to slide head first.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
You Mentionine Pete Rose with an of them in on
or yeah, dude.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
But I mean, so this stuff does matter. I mean,
kids look at this stuff, and there's no question I
want to I want to dress like Justin Jefferson. I put,
you're right, all right.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
I just never cared about it. It was never my
bag either. But like I could tell, my my son's
a lot more observant than me. I mean, he was
a kid, he's eighteen now. He knew everyone's dress code basically.
You know, he wears these cleats. He was a nerd
about it too. He knows I don't even know this stuff,
like all the different designs of helmets, like he wanted
to be an equipment guy. He's like, he should be
using these cleats, he should be using this helmet. I know,
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the different face masks, but I don't know the names
of the helmets or what who wears what. I'm actually
really bad about numbers. My mind just doesn't work that way.
And he knows every number in the whole league, and
it's just that I kind of get. I mean, yes,
it's definitely a weakness of mine. I don't know some
star player's numbers. I just don't see him that way
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for reason.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But I just always like one of the other things
is completely off tangent here. But you see all the
kids now, are all the younger players now because major again,
major league players do it. They've got the the elbow pad.
I was going to ask about the number they've got
the shint guard on. They get all that stuff on,
and then they run out and they get it. You know,
you get a double and the next thing you know,
the first base coach is standing over there and he's
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got twenty different guys stuff. He just holds everything. There's
ten different shin guards, there's five different elbow guards.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
They get a bunch of hits at it, and he's
busy holding.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Do you really need all that stuff for a youth
baseball game?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
I guess next question, and I know you do older
players than this. These aren't you know, six seven year
olds that are afraid of the ball. But so many
kids in the batter's box are afraid of the ball.
Obviously they don't even want to be there. Mom and
dad said, you're playing. They're out there in jeans or whatever,
you know. But do some of these dudes that have
like the elbow stuff, does it help their fear? No? Yeah,
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they still don't want to get hit. I don't want to.
I'm still bail it out. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
it's not like you're in head to toe. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
There's there's there's a kid a video out there. It's
a he's a looks like what is a Pinto player?
Which is coach pitch and it's I see it on
Facebook all the time. In the he's got he's got
the sun like Oakley sunglasses on.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
They probably weren't cheap.
Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, in this, you know, one hundred dollars helmet and
all the gear.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Everyone has their own batting helmet now, right oh yeah yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Don't just throw the just all kinds of you know,
the eight hundred dollars bat and I'm like, and all
the comments on there are exactly what you would expect
like what are they doing with this? And like all
these videos is just showing the kids swinging the bat
in that instance, I don't even know if I blame
the kid.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
No, I would not say yes to that if you're
the best player in the league, right yeah, yeah, I'm
not paying all that stuff. I mean, I don't know
that we all need to share a cup like we
used to. Or here's three wooden bats. Another situation right here,
give Johnny your cup. Here you go off the rails here.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
But I'm one part of the game one time, and
I'm behind the plate and they're changing catchers. Catcher goes in,
the new catcher comes in and and he stops. He goes,
wait a second, I forgot to put in my cup. Okay,
I call time. He goes in to put it. He
had his cup he had inside his helmet that he
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was going to put on his face.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, at least he didn't set it like on his gatorade.
But it's pretty close.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
You had your cup inside your helmet, you see. I
took it out when I was putting my stuff on.
I forgot to put it on. He said, I'm like
the cup and the helmet like the face mask, of
your of your of your helmet is going on your face.
Your cup is not something you won't have anywhere near
your face.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
There's molecules in between two and there's all kinds of
stuff that could go wrong with that one, right, Yeah,
yeah that should Now, I don't think it should be
our day where one cup is in the box that
they unlock, everybody shares, everyone shares, and it's full of
sand and that's not good either, hairs and whatever else.
There's a place for it though. Yeah, yeah, we've we're
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well passed that, well past that big day though. People
don't even share helmets. But do we really need Everyone
needs their own helmet to I don't know about that either, Yeah,
but anyways, but yeah, George Pickens traded Catcher's gear. It's
still pretty universal a lot of once they get older.
If you're a god, you have your own gear.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I'm because you don't want to have to adjust it
every time you put it on, right right right?
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Okay, that I can understand, But I would think all
of mine, I mean there's a set of shing guards
and everything at Yeah, you can get.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
You get the league. The league gives you know, bags
to everybody. Yeah, includes catchers gear. Now they don't all
use it. But if you got somebody who's just learning
to catch, you don't have to go out and buy
all gear.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
You just throw this on see if you like it. Right,
But if you're good, you have your own stuff.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
If you're if you're a catcher by trade, you have
your own gear.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
That makes sense. Yeah, like probably goldie pads the same way,
stuff like that, you know, right. Yeah, anyways, I know
goalies don't have to pay the league fee because it's
really expense for your kid to be a goalie. Expensive. Yeah. Yeah,
interesting show, how about that? That's what we're about. George
Pickens for two hours? Kind of did we kind of
did we were?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
We pretty much ran the gamut on everything that again,
who's available, who might be available? The ramifications of this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Tomorrow's Twitter Thursday. I'm sure a lot of you'll be
throwing names at us and stuff too.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Bring it on, Bring it on, That's what we're here for.
But that's going to do it for today's show. We
like to though, thank Bob Labriola for stopping by for
my partner Matt Williamson for CJ Wolfy here on site
running the soundboard and the well. Today it's a CJ
Wolfly hotline and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video
gets out there on the YouTube. Give us the thumbs
up there. I am Dale Lolly. We thank you for
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