June 2, 2025 • 47 mins
A Texan is up for a different Hall of Fame, and the NFLPA is preparing for an all-Europe NFL division. Texans Voice Marc Vandermeer and Team Analyst/Radio Sideline Reporter John Harris discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's happening.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good, People of Houston and Texans fans everywhere, Welcome into
Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. John
Harris foot Fainal sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, alongside
the Voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermier.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Mark, Good evening, How are you? I'm doing great, giants?
What's that from? Good evening? Good evening?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a lot of things, right, good evening? Is it
lurched from the Adams That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What I thought it was. That's what I've always believed
it to be. Good evening. Geez, lurch, that's going back.
That's good. This is going back.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Did the Monsters and the Adams Family overlap?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I think the months they did. It's only on for
like one season or something.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, the Munsters are famous, seemingly, but they were only
on a couple of couple of three seasons.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know what's interesting about old shows because I've been
semi binge watching the old Mash episodes with my twelve
year old and they're great.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I love the old ones with Hawkeye and Trapper.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, like once you see Klinger out of the dress
matches no good anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, but the old ones are good.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And they have twenty six episodes per season.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Shows used to be like that.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now twenty six episodes is three seasons minimum, at least
two dozen.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Episodes for most of the great shows.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now you get on streaming and you're like ten shows, Yeah,
ten episodes and it's over.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's over, it's done.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So it makes it a lot easier, for lack of
a better way of putting it, for a lot of
the actors and everything, they could do different projects, right,
because back in the day, you think about the prep
it takes to do a season like that, you really
can't do too many other things. That's why Back to
the Future Michael J. Fox had to shoot the movie
during off hours while he was doing family ties and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's almost like he wasn't supposed to be Marty. You
know the story, right, Yeah, it was Eric Stolts and
foot I didn't know that. I didn't know that until
about probably four or five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, And the footage is out there on YouTube of
Stolt's playing Marty McFly and it's no good.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I can see Why can't you can't see it?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No? You can't because you understand they felt like this
is not funny.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He is a great actor. He played Rocky and Mad,
He's in pulp fiction for a bit. He's a good actor,
but that part required a funny guy, and that's who
Michael J.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Fox is, right, Yeah, Michael Fox was great.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's almost like when you talk about the old series,
it's like the old NFL. You know, it's six preseason
games and training camps starting July one.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's like light.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Nine train that we're actually going to more games and
the regular season per season, so that analogy doesn't quite
work as well, whatever it is, but eventually we'll go
to eighteen games.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We all know it. Yeah it will, and we can
we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
In fact, there's one thing with the NFL we can
talk about a little bit later, which we've discussed in
the past, and we threw it out there just as
like they they're not gonna do this, but what if
they did this? What if the NFL did well? But
we'll get to that in a little bit. But you're
watching one of those shows it's actually a new show
that's based on an old or movie.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Cobra Kai Johnny and you've been telling me I should
watch it. I was yeah, but now me and Vander
Kidd too, who's twelve and.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He's a little young for it. But I'm like, don't
look at this.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Ye yeah, they're not dropping too many words. They shouldn't.
There's just some adult themes throughout that are avoidable in
some cases. But Cobra Kai, Man, I mean, Johnny as
the older guy now down on his luck. It's a
great setup. Ralph Machio, I was trying to explain to
my kid. And Ralph Macchio didn't have a great career. Okay,
(03:26):
he was great as the karate kid. Hopefully he made
a lot of money on that. He's in My Cousin Vinny,
where he probably shouldn't have been in that movie because
it was such a bit part and he kind of
is a distraction more than anything. But that movie did fine,
and I don't know what else, but not much until
Cobra Kai. And now he's in this new Karate Kid
movie with Jackie Chan where they blend the two Karate
Kid movies. Anyway, but Cobra Kai great series on Netflix. Johnny,
(03:49):
I'm on episode six, season one. I am all in.
I highly recommend it. I know you have for years,
but I highly recommend it. I'm all in on it.
I'm dying to know what happens. It's kind of like
every school movie from the eighties meets Mean Girls meets
Karate Kid meets whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's great. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
People that are out there that have seen all seasons
as I have, you know what Mark is is embarking
upon and it's very fun.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's very it's very cool.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And by the way, Netflix is the best streaming service
when it comes to binging. They know how to make
you watch because when the when the episode ends, it's
not like do you want to watch the next one?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, they're just loading it right there.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's like here going you know what you want, Let's
not pretend here if you want to binge it, we're
gonna help you out.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We're just starting it up.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If you weren't fast enough on the trigger, we're just
starting the next episode and then carry posit.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Once it's in that little reload binge mode, you're done.
You can't even posit it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You have to wait till the next one begins, and
it's then excruciatingly tough to pause it and say I
gotta go to bed now I no more Cobra Kai
for the night.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So you mentioned Johnny.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, Johnny's William Zopka and he's one of the executive
producers this and.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He's the guy who's often confused.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I bet people walk up to him all the time
thinking he's James Spader because he and James Spader played
every main block the eighties and eighties.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They were very much known for that. So back in
seven o eight, so this is going back a little bit.
Sean Pendergass and I we were doing radio together at
a former radio station. We were embarking by the summer.
You know, we had all you kind of feel like
the school year. If you think about school year, You've
got all these different athletic events, but then graduation basically hits.
And it's like, okay, you want to talk about French
(05:31):
Open tennis, which I've always loved. I've always loved tennis
just to watch. I've never you know, got tennis. I
kind of like watching it. I haven't watched much of
the French Open. Anyways, we were trying to decide what
we wanted to do for the summer, like we have
like a just something different for the summer, and so
came up with the idea that we would do like
(05:52):
be or even sealless celebrities, because we basically became quote
unquote famous for our interview with Willie Aames and Willyames Classic.
It was the wrong Willy Aames, but David Nuno had
gotten us Willyames, and so he.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Walked back in said hey, I've guys.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You guys Williams came back and said, oh, sorry, it's
not that. It's not that Williams. No, no, no, no, we
still want to interview him from eight. From eight is enough,
So that's seventies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It turned out that Willy Aames that we were talking
to was a banjo player from South Carolina or San Diego,
one of the two, and we had this great interview
with him, and so Matt kind of gave us the
idea that we should talk at some point to the
real b list and see the celebrities.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And so at some point the name William Zopka came up.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Sean reached out to him and almost immediately Zopka got
back to him, nice, he could be I'll come on
with you guys anytime.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He got on the air with us for.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
About a half hour and was absolutely freaking phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And he's done producing at different things over the years,
not much acting.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So good.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, he's not done a whole lot of acting. So
we do that interview with him at my half hour.
So we did these things called the Mug Awards then
of our first year. It was just kind of this
self serving self promotion, hey look at us sort of thing,
but it was fun. We all got dressed up in
Texas and made a fun deal out of it, like
it was Oscars or whatever. And so one of the
earlier awards in the night, all of a sudden they
(07:15):
go to a video and it's Zopka doing a video
for the Mug Awards.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And it is absolutely a riot. He was so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
He did the video with a self character in character
Cobra Kai. I mean, was just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He spoofed me, he kind of you got got after
me and Sean a little bit. It was just it
was classic. So I've always been a Williams Zopka fan
from that point forward. I love them as Johnny He's
the greatest villainy of many many of those eighties teens
like Johnny Lawrence is the villain of all.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Villains in this series, the Cobra Kai series, the good
and Evil, the good and bad of Karate Kid. It's
very clear in Karate Kid in this series there are
some gray areas.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
They're very quite sure.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Even Ralph Macchio's character has a little you know, he
has some downside to him, you know, And Johnny has
some things that you're rooting for Johnny Lawrence, you know,
you want things to be better for him in a way.
So that makes it very compelling stuff. It's like some
of your favorite athletes.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you another one to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And my wife might be mad if she's listening, because
we've been watching the show together and uh.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh, you didn't stray and watch some episodes by yourself. Well,
I couldn't wait for the finale. I had to watch
a finale. I've watched the finale your Friends and Neighbors.
Is that good? Holy cow, it's really good.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And the finale, it's the finale is not what you
expect anybody, John Ham Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have
heard Amanda Pete yeah, oh wow, really, Amanda, I'm telling
you this, It'll blow this it's really really good because
to your point earlier about who you're expecting to be
(09:01):
the good guy and who you're expecting to not be
it kind of Olivia mun Yeah, Olivia Mon, I forgot
about that. Yeah, Olivia Mune ends up being John Ham's.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, it's fantastic. You gotta see it. We've been watching
it in a while. He gets fired or something, and
he does illegal things.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I've saw.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I've seen the preview or promo or whatever. I need
to watch because they live.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
In this like pricey kind of hoity toity neighborhood in
New York.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, so probably just outside the city, like a what's
the what's the Westchester County?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Westchester County? Yea, yeah, so pretty sure that it takes
place there. It's it's it's good. It's really really good
because you want to cheer for John Hamm in a sense,
and then you don't at TV.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The way great shows terrible platform. Yeah, interface it's awful.
It's the worst, but the shows are great, like Siloed,
Slow Horses and Ted Lasso are phenomena shows.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
This one You're like, okay, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Know if this is one that's I don't know if
this is one you want to watch with Liam. No, no,
no freaking way. Look, he's twelve. I can only hear
I might be watching this one. But that's okay, Liams.
Liam's twelve.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, Cobra, Kai's as far as I'm gonna go with him, right, Yeah,
that's a that's a good place. Even though my stepfather,
when I was eleven, took me to see Death Wish
the original with Charles Bronson. Are you serious? I'm glad
we could share this special time together. Death Wish. I'm
not gonna I can't even watch some of that now. Yeah,
my parents let me watch Stripes.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think I was like nine, and I'll never forget
the coming my dad said, my dad, my dad, it
was about to come on, and my dad was like,
my mom and dad were kind of arguing whether I
should watch it or not. And my dad likes some
of my mom says, he spends time and our Doug
and my dad played played semi pro ball in our
city in Marionette, Wisconsin, and there was always a guy.
(11:07):
He was a marine, and so whenever he was available
to play. He's really really good. But I mean he
used the F word as like an adjective noun and
a Jaron all in the same sentence. And my dad
was like, if he's there at him talk not it's
gonna face him.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Was like, I get to watch stripes.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It was a flexible word, yes, very much so, so yeah,
there's uh so, there's that. But it's Jon ham liviumon
Great Great Cat and not And they're great, don't get
me wrong, But it's the ancillary characters that almost make
the show.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Sure are the great shows, right, They have a lot
of depth.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Very much, so it'll be it'll be really good and
well force to watch. Uh, no doubt about that. Okay,
get into football. We're gonna go off course a little
bit because I had this email come through today and
I always wait for this. We always talk about the Hall.
Andre Johnson got in the Hall of Fame last year.
We know what the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Everybody
(12:05):
kind of follows.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know. The voting always takes place through the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They kind of wind down the finalists and they vote,
and they had four that were going in, including Eric
Allen and Jared Allen both going in amongst other startling sharpest.
The other one that got in, they changed the voting.
But either way, we all kind of know about Pro
Football Hall of Fame a lot of times we forget
about the College Football Hall of Fame. They released today.
(12:30):
They're twenty twenty six class. Now they have the ballot.
The ballot, not the inductees, not the inductees, the app
the ballot.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We've got to vote on these.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The College Football of Fame has kind of different rules
in that they can I don't know them all in particular,
but I know it's kind of you can't get all
usc guys in.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You can't get all Alabama guys.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And they tried to spread the well, so they try
and get a guy from this school this year, then
another school. If you're still playing in the league, they
won't put you on a ballot. Oh nice, So they
try and I like that they try and kind of
spread the wealth a little bit. I think that's why
Sean Taylor, I think he got voted in. But you know,
there was a run on Miami guys for a long,
long long time. They was like tiring at the same Yeah,
(13:17):
they're all retiring and so a lot of them have
kind of had to wait. So this list is enormous,
but it's of that timeframe. And I thought about this
because I saw this pop up on one of the
University of Texas recruiting sites. You know who went for
a visit to the University of Texas this past weekend?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Who? Gunner Rivers? No? Yeah, his son, his son, one
of his ten kids.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Philip Rivers' son went for an official visit to the
University of Texas. How old is He's a class of
twenty seven, so that would be sophomore.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Okay, just finished a soft So there's no way that
he and Arch Manning will be on the same team.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well no, because Arch is not going to be there
three more years. You wouldn't think so, But that would
be so cool.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Arch Manning and Gunner Rivers on the same freaking team.
Because you think about this, I mean, the Manning and
Rivers families are very connected. Oh yes, I didn't even
without that side because there, yes, Eli's wearing a Charger hat.
He is in the two thousand and four draft, is
wearing the charger hat that he gets whip traded to
(14:30):
the Giants and then the Rivers family.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, I guess we'll have to do it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I gotta say he was kind of a good sport
about it in some sense. But but this ballot comes out,
I'm going to read you this candidate two thousand and
five Unanimous First Team All American, winner of the Lot
Impact Trophy, two thousand and five National Football Foundation National
Scholar Athlete, and finalists for the Buckets and the Girsky
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Awards two thousand and five sec defensive play the year.
Holds the Alabama single game record for tackles twenty five
against Arkansas in two thousand and three. He ranks fifth
in Alabama history with three hundred and nine career tackles.
On the Hall of Fame ballot is one Demico Ryans.
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And he just got into the Cotton Bowl Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, he just got in the Combo Hall of Fame.
I think that was the end of last weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So Dimiico Ryans College Football Hall of Fame or candidate, Yeah,
on the ballot, I say he gets in, let's do it.
I'd love to see him. His coach at Alabama was
Mike Shula.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There are two.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Alabama Yeah, there are two Alabama players on this. Like
I said, you can't just have this load of Alabama
players all this whole load of mine. There are two.
The other one also has Texans ties.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, I didn't see who the other one was. It
was the two.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Thousand and nine Heisman Trophy winner played running back here
for about a half year, one mark Ingram.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The second so mark Ingram who got traded to the
Saints for a seventh rounder.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
On the Yeah, I think, Look, he's a lock.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He's a lot to get into the College Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You win a Heisman, you're in. Look.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Andre Ware, who we work with very closely, is into
college football and for good reason, and he got in
a while ago. Should we run through some other names here? Yeah,
these other names are.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Like I said, a lot of these have connections to
us in some way, shape or form, which I thought
was kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh and I have some personal deeps and or connections
with these people. Yes, like Josh Heipel, who's the head
coach at the University of Tennessee right now. But oh
use quarterback in two thousand. Yeah, beat Florida State. Had
he lost that game, i'd have two national championship rings
with the Hurricanes because they would have split that national
(16:58):
championship with Florida State because they beat Florida State and
the AP voters would have voted Miami number one. They
said it, okay, hypel one, and he's a candidate. Let's
make this right though. Let's make this right, all right.
Your last year at Miami went NAS championship correct started.
Quarterback was Ken Dorsey, starting middle linebacker was middle linebacker
Jonathan Viillma, and the head coach was Larry Coker.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They are all on the ballot. Yeah, and your canes
are all on the ballot Larry Cocher as a Hall
of Fame coach. Does every coach who wins a national
championship get in at the college vat?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think so. Now.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
One of the things that has been discussed recently was
changing the winning percentage for said coach. It was sixty percent,
like that was the bar. You had to be sixty percent. Well,
just below that at fifty nine point five and fifty
nine point six were Mike Leech and Less Miles.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So they changed so those guys could get in.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
They changed to fifty nine and a half and now
they can be considered for all fames. Doesn't mean they're
getting in, It just means they can now be considered.
Un about lead should get in for the press conferences alone. Yeah, yeah,
very much so so. Yeah, you're Miami guys Jonathan Vilma,
Ken Dorsey, and Larry Kocher all being considered.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Now, I think Ken Dorsey, Look, was he the best
quarterback in college when he played? No, he had great weapons,
played solid. Yeah, knew what he had to do, get
the ball to hands of the weapons and get out
of the way and let them make plays.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's right. But he threw for a bunch of yards.
But he did. I mean, somebody pulled the trigger to games.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he's still gonna win. So Kenny Dorsey's on the ballot.
We mentioned Dre. Yeah, now Dre's in college football fame,
his teammate with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Guy, he knows very very more.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Herman Moore nineteen ninety CONSENTSUS First Team All American, finished
sixth and Heisman Trophy voting.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But why is he on the ballot now, Because he's
been on the ballot for a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He's been on for tell you that Herman Moore.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I can't speak for Dre, but he talks about the
greatest hands he's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Herman Moore. Yeah, and he was a physical freak. He
was he was a freak. He was a freak. He
was like DeAndre Hopkins in a six to six body
five whatever he was. He was ridiculous. Okay, I've got
a couple of connections here as well. Alex Brown from
the University of Florida.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I remember him.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He is one of the very the first high school
In fact, my first two years I coached junior high
and then I went over to a school called Bishop Kenny.
And in our very first jamboree or spring jamboree, we're
playing I believe it was Hambleton County and we can't
block number three, Like cannot like who is number three? Like,
(19:48):
we can't block this dude? He's a stud. Alex Brown,
University of Florida. End up playing with the Saints. Two
time first team All American. I just remember coaching against him.
Thicks played for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He was ridiculous. Yeah, like for Cleveland, played for New Orleans.
I seem to remember it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Butch Davis who went for the Hurricanes to the Browns, Yep,
that makes sense. It felt like every player he was
signing or selecting was either a Hurricane or somebody who
played against the Hurricanes, or somebody who he might have recruited. Yep,
that he didn't get, but he really loved. Like Alex Brown,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Alan Fanica, who my dad coached at Lamar Consolidated and
who he was.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He was.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He was class in ninety seven. He was like five
or six years behind me. Well, my dad coached him.
To me, he's the greatest Lime ever seen up close
and personal. Like I am a huge fan of Fanic.
I hope he gets in. He played in the mid
to late nineties, obviously had a long career in the NFL.
But he is also up for a for induction. Here's
(20:51):
what It has no connection to anybody, but it's just
that some of these names are just kind of sexy
in a way. Robert Griffin third, yep, Baylor, Baylor. He's
up for a statute. Casey Hampton, Texas.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Not that Griffin is a statue, but they have a
statue of him.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
They do there, that's important. I don't know that Hampton.
I was gonna bring him up. Casey Hampton, Texas defensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Stud Galveston Ball, Absolute stud Galveston Ball. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They're building a new high school, are they. I don't
know if it's open yet or it's under construction. I
saw something about it. Brand new beautiful high school for
Galveston Island. I guess, so, yeah, that's your neighborhood. All right,
let's take a look at that. I know I need
to go. I need to go find that out. Here's
one you'll love. I know, I know where you. I
know who you're gonna say next. I don't even have
to look. Tell me, go ahead, receiver I love so much.
(21:40):
Marvin Harris Senior. Yes, thank you, Johnny.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You want to go another one further?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, he's also, uh up, I haven't seen a name
former tight end pain.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I just did a red fox on the same ballot
all Clark and Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean you talk about I mean Texans kryptonite.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Holy this is bad.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
This is bad because when Ty Warren got drafted by
the Colts, I thought, let's not have a repeat of this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, it's Dallas Clark era. I don't want to go
see it. Now.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Here's an interesting one that has nothing to do with
anything we do. But he did play professional football briefly.
Ryan Leif College Hall of Fame candidate from Washington State
absolutely deserves to get in. I mean he was a
first team All American, just outstanding number two pick in
the draft for a reason.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, there's a reason why they picked him. Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Obviously it did not work out his plan, but there
was a time when should you pick Manning or Leaf Manning?
That was a real argument and discussion, the real conversation.
You look back and you go, oh, that guy was
such a bust and Maning's a Hall of fame. That
was a true legit discussion back in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
It's funny because not to go off on a tangent
too much here, but it was Drew Bletsoe and Rick Meyer, right,
and a similar to Bletsoe, Rick Meyer and Marcus Mariota
and Jameis Winston and their luck and they're still in
the league, but their career back up.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, uh RG three and uh Andrew Luck a little bit.
But I think Luck was more of a hey, you
gotta take care. Yeah, yeah, I think and maybe Manning.
I think hang on Luck was more of a you
got to take Andrew Luck than Manning was over Ryan
Leif I agree with that, I think there were some people.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Ryan Leaf maybe more raw talent blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
A lot of people forget Manning lost all four times
to University flour Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, that was the other one, the big one. He
never won a big game, win the national championship the
year after he leaves.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, exactly, T Martin. So you're thinking, Ah, this guy's
you know, overrated, and then of course it's turned into
that Cam Newton is in the same class as former
coach Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera now that GM for the
cow Birds on his College Football Hall of Fame. A
lot of these names that you start reading, you're like, oh, man,
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like you you can remember, Like I saw Peter Warwick
up close and personal in ninety nine when they played
Florida after his whole Dillard's incident.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I don't know that I've ever seen a crowd
out for Blood.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
More of that game, sure than that Florida crowd was
for Peter Warrick because he had returned. Like the game
before the game, Peter wark was having a Heisman winning
season in ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Floridatay was great.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Then this incident comes up where he and Lavernius Coles
were getting a discount at a Dillard's in Tallahassee, could.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You imagine that today? Yeah, you gotta test cow the legal.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Benefit yestre So Coles had some issues before.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
His name was trouble. So they kick Coles off the team.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They suspend Wark for like three games, so the heisman
is now dead. Comes back, he plays a game, but
now he's got to go into Gainesville. They're undefeated and
I'll never forget they give him the ball. I want
to say they snapped it to him when we went
to the quarter he started one way, who came all the
way back the other way and beat everybody for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Thought, man, this dude's different. And it's like the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That we ended up seeing like up close, and they
played in the national Championship, played championhip, won.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That was against VIC. Yep. That was when running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We looked around and went a, you know, might be
kind of nice to have a running quarterback because this
VIC guy is prettyamn good.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It a lost.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Michael Vick put on quite the show Texans Villain and
Dominican Sue. Where does he rank on the Texans Villains list?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Mark top five? Man, He's He's the sweetest dude I've
ever met. He really really is. He really super cool.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Some guys who are who are nasty on the field
can be nasty out the field.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Warren sapp he was some guys most general dude. Like
we did a Lombardi event this is nine. It was
the Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday after they played Texas in
the Big twelve championship game and almost beat Texas, and
Sue was incredible. He was unbelievable And he couldn't have
been nicer. I did some of the MCing events for
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that night, and he could not have been nicer to
me after.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
The event like he was. I would play super cool.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I would put Albert Hainsworth as a higher ranked villain
against the Texans than and Dominican Sue.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But Sue's up there. He might not be top five, Johnny,
he's top ten. He's got to be only because he's
his hit.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'll put that at Air Quotes on Matt Schob in
Detroit in twenty twelve. I think that's where it started
to go a little bad for Matt.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right after it started.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It kicked in the wherever he got kicked by in
Dominican Sue, and then you see a little drop off it. Well,
we talked about it what happened at the end of
that season. Even though they pulled that game out, it's
never quite the same after that, quite the same.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'll give you another name because there are two NFL
at least two NFL head coaches on this College Football
Hall of Fame, and Kellen Moore would be the other one,
along with Demiko Ryans.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, Kelling Moore and Demiko Ryans, your two NFL head coaches,
Kellen Moore, Boise State, just to go over for the
New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
These names just you're right about that. You're right about
the names.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I mean, it's just such memoryly Antoine Randall l from
playing QB at Indiana, which obviously made a lot of
noise this past season.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Beast Mode, Marshaun Lynch from cow James Laurnidis. A lot
of people don't realize James Laurnidis is now the Ohio
State linebackers coach, Sebastian Janakowski, Ironhead Hayward Percy Harvin one
of the better players I can ever remember. He was
absolutely incredible And for your Texas Tech fans out there,
Byron Hansbart Johnny great running back coaches on the list,
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I'm not impressed.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't know if we have to vote any of
these into the college. We don't have to fame Larry. Look,
I love Larry Cooker. I don't know if he's a
college football Hall of Famer. Now, if you're gonna tell
me that you win a national championship, you should be
in fine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, And he played, he coached his team to another
national championship.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They lost that one. Bad call.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
They lost that one to Ohio State. Dennis Franconi. I
don't know about Hall of Fame. I mean, good coach,
but it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Didn't go well at A and M.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
We all know that, and and TCU went better. But
it's not like I guess he led TCU to their
first postseason birth in a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean that helps.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Come on the other coaches Hall of Fame. Ralph Frigin
Hall of Fame. He was such a good offensive coach man,
he was a really good offensive I don't know if
i'd say Hall of famer though.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Gary Patterson tremendous body of work at TCU. Hall of fame,
maybe just because he really got that program going on
a national scope.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But Chris Peterson, see I could see this a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I could see Chris Peterson over the others. He made
Boise into Boise. Even though Dirk Cutter was before him,
Chris Peterson took over. It was like Dan Hawkins left,
Peterson takes over.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
To undefeated seasons. Peterson got them to a different level.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And he got Washington to the College Fotball Playoff when
it was just a four team playoff.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So how about getting Boise.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
If we live in today's world, they'd play in another
one or two playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, you know that'd be cool? Yeah, very well. So
there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Damika Ryan's up for college Football Hall of Fame status. Now,
what if I said to you the Texans were gonna
spend not just one game playing internationally, they were gonna
go for a couple of them. Because NFL Europe's Division
is now added to the NFL, could it happen? Well,
the NFLPA is aware and thinking about it. We'll discuss
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that next on Texans All Access. What's up, everybody? Welcome
back to this Monday edition of Texans All ACTSSS. We've
got a big guest joining us tomorrow night. That's all
I'm gonna say. Got a big guest joining us tomorrow starter.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yees. Starter.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We could say a little bit more about where he's from,
but that might give you.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We're not gonna say anything else other than a starter. Yeah,
will join us tomorrow night. That's right, the starter will
join us tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Exclusive.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But it's definitely a guy you want to listen to
for more than five minutes, So we'll have that for
you tomorrow night. Okay, mark this story. In fact, you
alerted me to this story. I didn't even see this.
The headline from po Football Talk says NFLPA ponders eventual
NFL push for European Division.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Geez, so, here's.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What Florida, here's what Florio says. Per source with knowledge
of the situation, NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell has been
actively discussing the pros and cons of putting multiple teams
and more than two hundred union jobs on another continent.
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The NFL Players Association, as Florio said, we're told, is
preparing for the NFL to eventually make a push for
a four team European division. There are so many things,
so many things to go with this number four. You
got number one four team division. That's four cities in Europe. Yeah, London, Paris, Barcelona, Barcelona,
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something in Germany, Germany, somewhere in Germany.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I don't know which one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, we solve that problem. Okay, so that's good. Those
are your four teams. That's the easy part. That's the
easy part. Seconds now you add Now you're adding four
more teams.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So my guess is those are four expansion teams. Well,
you would think four expansion teams. Is there anybody ripe
to move?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And people would say Jacksonville, But they're putting a lot
of money into that un stadium coplay, so I don't
think they're going to move. I still see them playing
at least a couple of games overseas every year. But
you know, one road, one home, so to speak. But
I can't imagine who else is ripe to go. You know,
other situation is gonna send a team over there. So
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let's just go at the minimum. It's got to be
two three expansion teams.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Man, you try to put four expansion teams out there,
I don't know how you do it. I would think
that they would maybe buy or somehow come up with
some arrangement with the UFL and the UFL would sort
of be at this auditioning ground.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I don't know how you do not promotion relegation.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You know, but you have to have more development than
just having an expansion draft for four teams and throwing
four new teams out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
There, as you just said, as Howse said, that's two
hundred or more than two hundred. If you fifty three
mans roster, you're talking to two hundred and twelve plus
practice squad plus.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So imagine an expansion draft. You leave all right, so
they're thirty two teams. You do the fuzzy math here,
you leave ten players. Oh no, you leave seven eight players.
I'm protected. There's your expansion draft, and they're all gone.
I mean they all gotta go. That fills the two
hundred well plus plus draft and whatever else? Do they
get multiple Like when the Texans entered the league, they
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had thirteen picks in the college draft thirteen one in
the first round, and then two in each round thereafter,
So thirteen draft choices. Can you imagine what Nick would
do with thirteen draft choices?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh god, we should talk to him, like fifteen different trades.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I would have throw that one out there.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So you imagine if you had thirteen picks at a
draft heading in, so.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
The number five pick in the draft next year ends
up being well, I don't know, quarterback Leonoris sellars to
the London Monarchs. I mean, weird, how are play? That's
one of the things Fourio hits on. He says, it's
one thing to tell a twenty one year old who'd
prefer to live in his hometown of Pittsburgh has moved
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to Seattle. It's another to tell a kid from Phoenix
that he's packing for Frankfurt.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yep, that's gonna be weird. It's a global village now
we all know. But that's really tough stuff. The other
thing is this, and this gets brought up a lot.
Never mind going overseas playing and they come here play,
They'll come here two three weeks and you'll go back.
You'd need the Greenbrier or similar practice facilities. You could
solve that part of it. It's still gonna be a
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major hassle, but you can solve it. But teams are
signing guys all the time. You got to get them physicals.
You'd need an office here either for each team. Yeah,
as central international office where you give players physicals. They
all agree that this is gonna be our our platform
for physicals.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So we pass guys that.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We can sign them over there and they can fly
over and you know sign you know, the equivalent of
the NBA ten day, because that happens here with the league,
where you just sign guys and you're trying to fill
spots because you have injuries galore.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Would there be thirty two different embassies in each of
those four towns, like there's a Texans embassy in France, No,
I mean, or one You're you're gonna say just one
league office.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You're gonna have to have a lot of trust here,
and I mean there's a lot that would have to go.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, you just think about all the things that
we take for granted, just as it pertains to just
healthcare and all those different things.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know, the NFL is a different animal together.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think much more likely here is is we're gonna
go to eighteen games and everybody's going to play internationally
every year, right, So what you're gonna be able to
do in Europe is have multiple games in each of
those cities we just mentioned, right or each of those
countries at least right where London. You're gonna get four, five,
six games a year, and they'll sell that as a
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season ticket and you can see all the games or
buy in spots or whatever. They'll sell the thing out
because they do now. So you'll go four or five
in England, four or five in Germany, something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's how they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And then they'll still play their one offs in Brazil, Australia, China.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I mean we're headed there.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We're headed to this world of international ball trying to
promote the game global.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean, maybe you're not gonna have an NFL division,
but to your point, could you play six games at
Tottenham or six at Wembley, different six.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
In Paris, six in Germany? Almost look at all the
games they have in London every year.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, can continue to do that's that's one city, duplicate
that throughout Europe and then figure out the rest of
the world.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I just think I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think the division over there a I think it's
the only way you can do it. I think you
need to have a group that can be over there
for significant stretches of time, play teams that are visiting
play their own division games, come to the States for
a four or five week swing. But how difficult is that?
I mean, you just you know the level of balance
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that the NFL has. Everybody's got the same salary cap,
everybody's got the same roster numbers.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You know, there's so many things that are similar and
homogenious in the NFL. But all of a sudden, if
you take a team that's over in Europe and now,
all of a sudden, they got a five weeks stay
over in the United States to play five games or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I think three is max.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, but even at that point, you got to go
for three weeks, yeah, into you know, to a foreign
country at that point, to you and play three games,
you got me.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Everything that goes about eight weeks is really more like
because you're gonna fly in, let's say you did it
the way you do it over there. Let's just take
the opposite route. We're going to Europe for three weeks
to play three different teams. Okay, so you fly to
London on the Thursday, you play on the Sunday, you recover,
you play the following weekend. So I've been there a
little week plus and now I play one more week,
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and I play that final game and I head back.
So I haven't been there exactly three total weeks of time.
It's been more like, I don't know, seventeen days but picnic.
But at least it's kind of like when the Spurs
have to leave their own arena because they have the
rodeo every year. It's not quite like that, but you
get my drift. You're just gonna get used to your
international trip. When does our international trip.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Fall in twenty twenty eight? You know?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
No, but no, no, we're going to do this every
year if you have a division over there, All right,
certain teams will have to do that every year, but
some won't and that's going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
That's exactly right. Some won't. It won't be every year.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The best thing that happened to the league so far
with international play was both teams that went to Brazil
ended up making the playoffs. One actually won the Super Bowls, right,
and then they can always point to that, right, hopefully
always for them because this year, what's the matchup Chargers
Chiefs Chargers Chiefs, And they'll pray that both those teams
make the playoffs. So they could say, look, it doesn't
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affect you on the field. Really, both those teams were
solid getting into the postseason. It did not affect them
negatively throughout the regular season. I don't know how they
handle all that, but I think it's it's not likely.
It's easier. I'll put that in the air quotes to
do it in the NBA, to form a division over there,
have some sort of expansion draft, form a division. You
already have European league play. You could have an NBA division,
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have some travel stay over there for if you stay
there ten, you play three games, and that's kind of good.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
You're right, you knock some action out.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't know exactly how the logistics would be for them,
but I think it's easier in that.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Game, and that game is already a global game.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, so there are things you can do with basketball
that obviously are more difficult than football. I mean, you're
talking me into it, or easier than football to pull you're.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Talking me into it. I just felt like, if you're
going to do it, that's kind of the way to
do it. But I like the idea of look, everybody's
playing in the national games anyways. I mean, you could
come up with a way that all thirty two teams.
So if all thirty two teams play internationally, that's six
that's sixteen games.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, sixteen games.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, sixteen games. So can you come up with sixteen
like four and one location for another four another four another.
I mean, I don't know, maybe you.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Can do that.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You're but you still have the Jacks who want to
play over there and they want to play a couple
of time. Right, so now you have you have what
you have now, which is not everybody plays internationally every year.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Some people are going to have to stay.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Like the Vikings are staying for two they're in Dublin
and where else are they go?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
In Germany or something?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Dublin and then they all right whatever, but they're doing too.
Ireland and then London they're doing a double dip right right, right,
So somebody's gonna do multiple teams do double dips every year.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That's gonna be your test case. That's your test case.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Can NFL teams go over there and play and they're
in two different countries that Jackson.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The Jacks have done it. Jacks have done it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, Ireland England is like going from uh, you know, Philly,
New York almost understood.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, but yeah, it's I I would love to go
back there. Internationally, I feel like we had a great
time we went to London. It helped obviously that we
won the game. It is a hell of a trip.
It is a hell of a turnaround to fly Thursday
mid afternoon, land in London, Friday morning, go through practice.
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Then obviously we had to radio that night and then
get Saturday. So you and I took in a Fulham game,
which was fantastic, and then the next day you play
your game and then you fly out of there. You
remember what happened the very week we came back after that,
the next game got a butts kicked. And that year,
for some reason, every team that came back from London
was getting hammered, even though they had to bye week
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after that game, they were getting We.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did have the buye, we did have bye.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I think that game was more like we didn't know
what to do with Lamar Jackson. I think you're right,
but maybe it would have been better. And look, that
team also bounced back victory over the Colts, beat the
Patriots and then got blown out by Denver at home.
So who knows that team a kind of that scientific
that team was up and down. They were kind of
ups than downs, but the downs were pretty down.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, the downs were low, they were they were unfortunately
too low. But the NFLPA is at least looking at
the situation and trying to be cognizant of the fact
that something could arise. Now, there's nothing coming from the NFL.
This is coming from the nfl PA, Florio continued. From
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Leak's perspective, there's no evidence that a plan is in
place to put one or more teams in Europe the
foreseeable future. The goal for now has expand the number
of permissionable international games under the CBA from ten to sixteen,
so that's obviously something that they would have to cross
that hurdle. So there there definitely is that the Vikings
play consecutive games. As we mentioned, it's the first effort
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to evaluate the impact of a multi week feign trip.
That's not actually true because Jacksonville has done that, but
they stayed in London. They're doing it in two countries
for Vikings, so we'll see about that.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Okay, Will there be a four team division over in Europe?
I doubt, I seriously doubt it.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I seriously doubt it, but I do think they'll get
to sixty international games.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah, that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And whether it's London and whether the's city that gets
you know, a decent chunk of those particular games. We
got all these different one offs. You know, we'll see
if Ireland sticks on the schedule. We'll see if you know,
Australia can make it a couple of years from now,
so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, well we get back. Well, it was a day
of retirement.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's including a Houston Texan. He was in Houston, Texan
for very long. But we'll discuss that next and the
retirements around the league happening after June.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
First, that's sex the Texans All Access. What's happened? Everybody.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Welcome to this final segment of Texans All Access before
it turned over to Area forty five this evening on
Sports Radio six to ten. I'm your host, Jean Harris,
football and all the sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.
Let's get to some news around the league and start
right here at home with the retirement Ronald Darby, Texan. Well,
(43:37):
I guess former Texan had signed with the team. Probably
it was into free agency. It wasn't the week of
free agency when everybody signing a big deals kind of
wait for everything shake out, sign a deal with the Texans.
I thought that Darby would come in and give this
Texans team what it needed, kind of a third corner
who could move around a little bit, see some things,
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make some plays, and and not have to play one
hundred percent of the snaps. Kind of the way we
looked at Jerry Hughes over the last few years when
Jerry was on the field.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Hey, we need Jerry to rush ten to fifteen times.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That's all we need him to do. I need to
play ron Just come rush. I feel like the same
way with Ronald Darby. Come in cover for ten to
fifteen plays in a game. In a way we go.
But today it was announced that Ronald Darby is retiring
from the NFL. He was in his eleventh year of
the league. He had been around, Like I said, he
had seen some things. Seasoned guy. Now the Texans, depending
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on how you look at that cornerback room staying last,
no doubters, no doubt, no question about either one of them,
right now just staying healthy after that d'anzel Ross. We've
seen d Row have to play some meaningful minutes and
snaps for this team over the years. You've also got
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Jalen Smith, the rookie out of US Sea, who's done
a little bit of everything. You know, Ta's he's been outside,
he's been inside. It's gonna be a pretty good competition,
I would think for that next cornerback spot. Does it
end up being a veteran obviously I thought it would
be Round Darby, Stefan Gilmore. Does he want to take
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up residence in Houston. Don't know at this point and
probably not pertinent at this point. Let some guys get
a lot of reps, see what they do with them,
and they get to training camp and see if you
need some bolstering of that unit. But Ronald Darby retiring
today from the NFL, now, I think I was probably surprised.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I didn't really see that coming.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
But when it guys in year eleven and you're going
through OTA's and you're not the starter, it's kind of
challenging you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
To, like, man, I really want to do this. We
don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Darby's not talk, probably not gonna talk so we'll see
what ends up happening with him, but no longer a
Texan as he retires in the Texans sent out that
notice earlier this afternoon, now a retirement that like, wait,
what am I reading that right? I actually was on
Twitter earlier this afternoon and I had seen a couple
(46:08):
of tweets posts about Frank Ragnow and you know how
good he had been, his PFF numbers, he's one of
the best all that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I agree
with all that, and then that's always like, why why
is this coming out now?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
This is kind of random?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
And then I'm literally the next tweet, Frank Ragnow announces
his retirement from the NFL. Twenty nine years old, or
the best centers to have played in Detroit, one of
the best centers in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Frank Ragnow calls it quits. Now.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I saw a tweet a little bit later that said,
well you should have known the Lions drafted two interior
offensive linemen in this draft. It's like, yeah, your antennant
goes up for that kind of thing, but it doesn't register. Okay,
Frank Ragnow is twenty nine years old, he's gonna stop
playing football. But He just said the physical grind was
just tearing his body down. He said, s time to
start feeling good again. Frank ragnow retires from the Detroit Lions.
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Brandon Graham's retirement was made one hundred percent sett in Stone.
Eagles announced that today speaking the Eagles not a retirement
but a Madden cover. Sa Quon Barkley will be the
cover man for Madden twenty six. Good luck to Saquon,
and please stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That's all I'd like to be able to see you
do this year.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Please stay healthy and you'll probably go over two k
again behind that offensive line. Alight, it's gonna do it
for the show. Appreciate Mark, all of you guys for listening.
Thanks to my guys back in studio at Sports Radio six'.
Ten we'll see tomorrow, Everybody ota, number what the four
or something like, THAT i don't. Know first one of
the week we'll be able to see. It we'll break
it all down here On Texans All. Access see, tomorrowybody
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Speaker 1 (47:44):
Texans
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Good, People of Houston and Texans fans everywhere, Welcome into
Texans All Access from the Hyundai Texans Radio studio. John
Harris foot Fainal sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, alongside
the Voice of the Texans, Mark Vandermier.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Mark, Good evening, How are you? I'm doing great, giants?
What's that from? Good evening? Good evening?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's a lot of things, right, good evening? Is it
lurched from the Adams That's exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
What I thought it was. That's what I've always believed
it to be. Good evening. Geez, lurch, that's going back.
That's good. This is going back.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Did the Monsters and the Adams Family overlap?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I think the months they did. It's only on for
like one season or something.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, the Munsters are famous, seemingly, but they were only
on a couple of couple of three seasons.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know what's interesting about old shows because I've been
semi binge watching the old Mash episodes with my twelve
year old and they're great.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I love the old ones with Hawkeye and Trapper.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, like once you see Klinger out of the dress
matches no good anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, but the old ones are good.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And they have twenty six episodes per season.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Shows used to be like that.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Now twenty six episodes is three seasons minimum, at least
two dozen.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Episodes for most of the great shows.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Now you get on streaming and you're like ten shows, Yeah,
ten episodes and it's over.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's over, it's done.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So it makes it a lot easier, for lack of
a better way of putting it, for a lot of
the actors and everything, they could do different projects, right,
because back in the day, you think about the prep
it takes to do a season like that, you really
can't do too many other things. That's why Back to
the Future Michael J. Fox had to shoot the movie
during off hours while he was doing family ties and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's almost like he wasn't supposed to be Marty. You
know the story, right, Yeah, it was Eric Stolts and
foot I didn't know that. I didn't know that until
about probably four or five years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, And the footage is out there on YouTube of
Stolt's playing Marty McFly and it's no good.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I can see Why can't you can't see it?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
No? You can't because you understand they felt like this
is not funny.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He is a great actor. He played Rocky and Mad,
He's in pulp fiction for a bit. He's a good actor,
but that part required a funny guy, and that's who
Michael J.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Fox is, right, Yeah, Michael Fox was great.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's almost like when you talk about the old series,
it's like the old NFL. You know, it's six preseason
games and training camps starting July one.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It's like light.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Nine train that we're actually going to more games and
the regular season per season, so that analogy doesn't quite
work as well, whatever it is, but eventually we'll go
to eighteen games.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We all know it. Yeah it will, and we can
we can talk about that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
In fact, there's one thing with the NFL we can
talk about a little bit later, which we've discussed in
the past, and we threw it out there just as
like they they're not gonna do this, but what if
they did this? What if the NFL did well? But
we'll get to that in a little bit. But you're
watching one of those shows it's actually a new show
that's based on an old or movie.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Cobra Kai Johnny and you've been telling me I should
watch it. I was yeah, but now me and Vander
Kidd too, who's twelve and.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
He's a little young for it. But I'm like, don't
look at this.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Ye yeah, they're not dropping too many words. They shouldn't.
There's just some adult themes throughout that are avoidable in
some cases. But Cobra Kai, Man, I mean, Johnny as
the older guy now down on his luck. It's a
great setup. Ralph Machio, I was trying to explain to
my kid. And Ralph Macchio didn't have a great career. Okay,
(03:26):
he was great as the karate kid. Hopefully he made
a lot of money on that. He's in My Cousin Vinny,
where he probably shouldn't have been in that movie because
it was such a bit part and he kind of
is a distraction more than anything. But that movie did fine,
and I don't know what else, but not much until
Cobra Kai. And now he's in this new Karate Kid
movie with Jackie Chan where they blend the two Karate
Kid movies. Anyway, but Cobra Kai great series on Netflix. Johnny,
(03:49):
I'm on episode six, season one. I am all in.
I highly recommend it. I know you have for years,
but I highly recommend it. I'm all in on it.
I'm dying to know what happens. It's kind of like
every school movie from the eighties meets Mean Girls meets
Karate Kid meets whatever.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It's great. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
People that are out there that have seen all seasons
as I have, you know what Mark is is embarking
upon and it's very fun.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
It's very it's very cool.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And by the way, Netflix is the best streaming service
when it comes to binging. They know how to make
you watch because when the when the episode ends, it's
not like do you want to watch the next one?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, they're just loading it right there.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It's like here going you know what you want, Let's
not pretend here if you want to binge it, we're
gonna help you out.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
We're just starting it up.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
If you weren't fast enough on the trigger, we're just
starting the next episode and then carry posit.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Once it's in that little reload binge mode, you're done.
You can't even posit it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You have to wait till the next one begins, and
it's then excruciatingly tough to pause it and say I
gotta go to bed now I no more Cobra Kai
for the night.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So you mentioned Johnny.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, Johnny's William Zopka and he's one of the executive
producers this and.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He's the guy who's often confused.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I bet people walk up to him all the time
thinking he's James Spader because he and James Spader played
every main block the eighties and eighties.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
They were very much known for that. So back in
seven o eight, so this is going back a little bit.
Sean Pendergass and I we were doing radio together at
a former radio station. We were embarking by the summer.
You know, we had all you kind of feel like
the school year. If you think about school year, You've
got all these different athletic events, but then graduation basically hits.
And it's like, okay, you want to talk about French
(05:31):
Open tennis, which I've always loved. I've always loved tennis
just to watch. I've never you know, got tennis. I
kind of like watching it. I haven't watched much of
the French Open. Anyways, we were trying to decide what
we wanted to do for the summer, like we have
like a just something different for the summer, and so
came up with the idea that we would do like
(05:52):
be or even sealless celebrities, because we basically became quote
unquote famous for our interview with Willie Aames and Willyames Classic.
It was the wrong Willy Aames, but David Nuno had
gotten us Willyames, and so he.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Walked back in said hey, I've guys.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You guys Williams came back and said, oh, sorry, it's
not that. It's not that Williams. No, no, no, no, we
still want to interview him from eight. From eight is enough,
So that's seventies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
It turned out that Willy Aames that we were talking
to was a banjo player from South Carolina or San Diego,
one of the two, and we had this great interview
with him, and so Matt kind of gave us the
idea that we should talk at some point to the
real b list and see the celebrities.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And so at some point the name William Zopka came up.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Sean reached out to him and almost immediately Zopka got
back to him, nice, he could be I'll come on
with you guys anytime.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
He got on the air with us for.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
About a half hour and was absolutely freaking phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And he's done producing at different things over the years,
not much acting.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So good.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, he's not done a whole lot of acting. So
we do that interview with him at my half hour.
So we did these things called the Mug Awards then
of our first year. It was just kind of this
self serving self promotion, hey look at us sort of thing,
but it was fun. We all got dressed up in
Texas and made a fun deal out of it, like
it was Oscars or whatever. And so one of the
earlier awards in the night, all of a sudden they
(07:15):
go to a video and it's Zopka doing a video
for the Mug Awards.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
And it is absolutely a riot. He was so funny.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
He did the video with a self character in character
Cobra Kai. I mean, was just fantastic.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
He spoofed me, he kind of you got got after
me and Sean a little bit. It was just it
was classic. So I've always been a Williams Zopka fan
from that point forward. I love them as Johnny He's
the greatest villainy of many many of those eighties teens
like Johnny Lawrence is the villain of all.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Villains in this series, the Cobra Kai series, the good
and Evil, the good and bad of Karate Kid. It's
very clear in Karate Kid in this series there are
some gray areas.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
They're very quite sure.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Even Ralph Macchio's character has a little you know, he
has some downside to him, you know, And Johnny has
some things that you're rooting for Johnny Lawrence, you know,
you want things to be better for him in a way.
So that makes it very compelling stuff. It's like some
of your favorite athletes.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you another one to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And my wife might be mad if she's listening, because
we've been watching the show together and uh.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh, you didn't stray and watch some episodes by yourself. Well,
I couldn't wait for the finale. I had to watch
a finale. I've watched the finale your Friends and Neighbors.
Is that good? Holy cow, it's really good.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And the finale, it's the finale is not what you
expect anybody, John Ham Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have
heard Amanda Pete yeah, oh wow, really, Amanda, I'm telling
you this, It'll blow this it's really really good because
to your point earlier about who you're expecting to be
(09:01):
the good guy and who you're expecting to not be
it kind of Olivia mun Yeah, Olivia Mon, I forgot
about that. Yeah, Olivia Mune ends up being John Ham's.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, it's fantastic. You gotta see it. We've been watching
it in a while. He gets fired or something, and
he does illegal things.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I've saw.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I've seen the preview or promo or whatever. I need
to watch because they live.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
In this like pricey kind of hoity toity neighborhood in
New York.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, so probably just outside the city, like a what's
the what's the Westchester County?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Westchester County? Yea, yeah, so pretty sure that it takes
place there. It's it's it's good. It's really really good
because you want to cheer for John Hamm in a sense,
and then you don't at TV.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The way great shows terrible platform. Yeah, interface it's awful.
It's the worst, but the shows are great, like Siloed,
Slow Horses and Ted Lasso are phenomena shows.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
This one You're like, okay, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Know if this is one that's I don't know if
this is one you want to watch with Liam. No, no,
no freaking way. Look, he's twelve. I can only hear
I might be watching this one. But that's okay, Liams.
Liam's twelve.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, Cobra, Kai's as far as I'm gonna go with him, right, Yeah,
that's a that's a good place. Even though my stepfather,
when I was eleven, took me to see Death Wish
the original with Charles Bronson. Are you serious? I'm glad
we could share this special time together. Death Wish. I'm
not gonna I can't even watch some of that now. Yeah,
my parents let me watch Stripes.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I think I was like nine, and I'll never forget
the coming my dad said, my dad, my dad, it
was about to come on, and my dad was like,
my mom and dad were kind of arguing whether I
should watch it or not. And my dad likes some
of my mom says, he spends time and our Doug
and my dad played played semi pro ball in our
city in Marionette, Wisconsin, and there was always a guy.
(11:07):
He was a marine, and so whenever he was available
to play. He's really really good. But I mean he
used the F word as like an adjective noun and
a Jaron all in the same sentence. And my dad
was like, if he's there at him talk not it's
gonna face him.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Was like, I get to watch stripes.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
It was a flexible word, yes, very much so, so yeah,
there's uh so, there's that. But it's Jon ham liviumon
Great Great Cat and not And they're great, don't get
me wrong, But it's the ancillary characters that almost make
the show.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Sure are the great shows, right, They have a lot
of depth.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Very much, so it'll be it'll be really good and
well force to watch. Uh, no doubt about that. Okay,
get into football. We're gonna go off course a little
bit because I had this email come through today and
I always wait for this. We always talk about the Hall.
Andre Johnson got in the Hall of Fame last year.
We know what the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Everybody
(12:05):
kind of follows.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You know. The voting always takes place through the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
They kind of wind down the finalists and they vote,
and they had four that were going in, including Eric
Allen and Jared Allen both going in amongst other startling sharpest.
The other one that got in, they changed the voting.
But either way, we all kind of know about Pro
Football Hall of Fame a lot of times we forget
about the College Football Hall of Fame. They released today.
(12:30):
They're twenty twenty six class. Now they have the ballot.
The ballot, not the inductees, not the inductees, the app
the ballot.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We've got to vote on these.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
The College Football of Fame has kind of different rules
in that they can I don't know them all in particular,
but I know it's kind of you can't get all
usc guys in.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You can't get all Alabama guys.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And they tried to spread the well, so they try
and get a guy from this school this year, then
another school. If you're still playing in the league, they
won't put you on a ballot. Oh nice, So they
try and I like that they try and kind of
spread the wealth a little bit. I think that's why
Sean Taylor, I think he got voted in. But you know,
there was a run on Miami guys for a long,
long long time. They was like tiring at the same Yeah,
(13:17):
they're all retiring and so a lot of them have
kind of had to wait. So this list is enormous,
but it's of that timeframe. And I thought about this
because I saw this pop up on one of the
University of Texas recruiting sites. You know who went for
a visit to the University of Texas this past weekend?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Who? Gunner Rivers? No? Yeah, his son, his son, one
of his ten kids.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Philip Rivers' son went for an official visit to the
University of Texas. How old is He's a class of
twenty seven, so that would be sophomore.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Okay, just finished a soft So there's no way that
he and Arch Manning will be on the same team.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Well no, because Arch is not going to be there
three more years. You wouldn't think so, But that would
be so cool.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Arch Manning and Gunner Rivers on the same freaking team.
Because you think about this, I mean, the Manning and
Rivers families are very connected. Oh yes, I didn't even
without that side because there, yes, Eli's wearing a Charger hat.
He is in the two thousand and four draft, is
wearing the charger hat that he gets whip traded to
(14:30):
the Giants and then the Rivers family.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Well, I guess we'll have to do it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I gotta say he was kind of a good sport
about it in some sense. But but this ballot comes out,
I'm going to read you this candidate two thousand and
five Unanimous First Team All American, winner of the Lot
Impact Trophy, two thousand and five National Football Foundation National
Scholar Athlete, and finalists for the Buckets and the Girsky
(14:56):
Awards two thousand and five sec defensive play the year.
Holds the Alabama single game record for tackles twenty five
against Arkansas in two thousand and three. He ranks fifth
in Alabama history with three hundred and nine career tackles.
On the Hall of Fame ballot is one Demico Ryans.
(15:18):
And he just got into the Cotton Bowl Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, he just got in the Combo Hall of Fame.
I think that was the end of last weekend.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So Dimiico Ryans College Football Hall of Fame or candidate, Yeah,
on the ballot, I say he gets in, let's do it.
I'd love to see him. His coach at Alabama was
Mike Shula.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
There are two.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Alabama Yeah, there are two Alabama players on this. Like
I said, you can't just have this load of Alabama
players all this whole load of mine. There are two.
The other one also has Texans ties.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh, I didn't see who the other one was. It
was the two.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Thousand and nine Heisman Trophy winner played running back here
for about a half year, one mark Ingram.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The second so mark Ingram who got traded to the
Saints for a seventh rounder.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
On the Yeah, I think, Look, he's a lock.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He's a lot to get into the College Football Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You win a Heisman, you're in. Look.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Andre Ware, who we work with very closely, is into
college football and for good reason, and he got in
a while ago. Should we run through some other names here? Yeah,
these other names are.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Like I said, a lot of these have connections to
us in some way, shape or form, which I thought
was kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh and I have some personal deeps and or connections
with these people. Yes, like Josh Heipel, who's the head
coach at the University of Tennessee right now. But oh
use quarterback in two thousand. Yeah, beat Florida State. Had
he lost that game, i'd have two national championship rings
with the Hurricanes because they would have split that national
(16:58):
championship with Florida State because they beat Florida State and
the AP voters would have voted Miami number one. They
said it, okay, hypel one, and he's a candidate. Let's
make this right though. Let's make this right, all right.
Your last year at Miami went NAS championship correct started.
Quarterback was Ken Dorsey, starting middle linebacker was middle linebacker
Jonathan Viillma, and the head coach was Larry Coker.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
They are all on the ballot. Yeah, and your canes
are all on the ballot Larry Cocher as a Hall
of Fame coach. Does every coach who wins a national
championship get in at the college vat?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I don't think so. Now.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
One of the things that has been discussed recently was
changing the winning percentage for said coach. It was sixty percent,
like that was the bar. You had to be sixty percent. Well,
just below that at fifty nine point five and fifty
nine point six were Mike Leech and Less Miles.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So they changed so those guys could get in.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
They changed to fifty nine and a half and now
they can be considered for all fames. Doesn't mean they're
getting in, It just means they can now be considered.
Un about lead should get in for the press conferences alone. Yeah, yeah,
very much so so. Yeah, you're Miami guys Jonathan Vilma,
Ken Dorsey, and Larry Kocher all being considered.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Now, I think Ken Dorsey, Look, was he the best
quarterback in college when he played? No, he had great weapons,
played solid. Yeah, knew what he had to do, get
the ball to hands of the weapons and get out
of the way and let them make plays.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
That's right. But he threw for a bunch of yards.
But he did. I mean, somebody pulled the trigger to games.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, he's still gonna win. So Kenny Dorsey's on the ballot.
We mentioned Dre. Yeah, now Dre's in college football fame,
his teammate with the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Guy, he knows very very more.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Herman Moore nineteen ninety CONSENTSUS First Team All American, finished
sixth and Heisman Trophy voting.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
But why is he on the ballot now, Because he's
been on the ballot for a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
He's been on for tell you that Herman Moore.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I can't speak for Dre, but he talks about the
greatest hands he's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Herman Moore. Yeah, and he was a physical freak. He
was he was a freak. He was a freak. He
was like DeAndre Hopkins in a six to six body
five whatever he was. He was ridiculous. Okay, I've got
a couple of connections here as well. Alex Brown from
the University of Florida.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I remember him.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
He is one of the very the first high school
In fact, my first two years I coached junior high
and then I went over to a school called Bishop Kenny.
And in our very first jamboree or spring jamboree, we're
playing I believe it was Hambleton County and we can't
block number three, Like cannot like who is number three? Like,
(19:48):
we can't block this dude? He's a stud. Alex Brown,
University of Florida. End up playing with the Saints. Two
time first team All American. I just remember coaching against him.
Thicks played for Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He was ridiculous. Yeah, like for Cleveland, played for New Orleans.
I seem to remember it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Butch Davis who went for the Hurricanes to the Browns, Yep,
that makes sense. It felt like every player he was
signing or selecting was either a Hurricane or somebody who
played against the Hurricanes, or somebody who he might have recruited. Yep,
that he didn't get, but he really loved. Like Alex Brown,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Alan Fanica, who my dad coached at Lamar Consolidated and
who he was.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
He was.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
He was class in ninety seven. He was like five
or six years behind me. Well, my dad coached him.
To me, he's the greatest Lime ever seen up close
and personal. Like I am a huge fan of Fanic.
I hope he gets in. He played in the mid
to late nineties, obviously had a long career in the NFL.
But he is also up for a for induction. Here's
(20:51):
what It has no connection to anybody, but it's just
that some of these names are just kind of sexy
in a way. Robert Griffin third, yep, Baylor, Baylor. He's
up for a statute. Casey Hampton, Texas.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Not that Griffin is a statue, but they have a
statue of him.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
They do there, that's important. I don't know that Hampton.
I was gonna bring him up. Casey Hampton, Texas defensive tackle.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Stud Galveston Ball, Absolute stud Galveston Ball. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
They're building a new high school, are they. I don't
know if it's open yet or it's under construction. I
saw something about it. Brand new beautiful high school for
Galveston Island. I guess, so, yeah, that's your neighborhood. All right,
let's take a look at that. I know I need
to go. I need to go find that out. Here's
one you'll love. I know, I know where you. I
know who you're gonna say next. I don't even have
to look. Tell me, go ahead, receiver I love so much.
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Marvin Harris Senior. Yes, thank you, Johnny.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
You want to go another one further?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, he's also, uh up, I haven't seen a name
former tight end pain.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I just did a red fox on the same ballot
all Clark and Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I mean you talk about I mean Texans kryptonite.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Holy this is bad.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
This is bad because when Ty Warren got drafted by
the Colts, I thought, let's not have a repeat of this.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No, it's Dallas Clark era. I don't want to go
see it. Now.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Here's an interesting one that has nothing to do with
anything we do. But he did play professional football briefly.
Ryan Leif College Hall of Fame candidate from Washington State
absolutely deserves to get in. I mean he was a
first team All American, just outstanding number two pick in
the draft for a reason.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You know, there's a reason why they picked him. Yep.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Obviously it did not work out his plan, but there
was a time when should you pick Manning or Leaf Manning?
That was a real argument and discussion, the real conversation.
You look back and you go, oh, that guy was
such a bust and Maning's a Hall of fame. That
was a true legit discussion back in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
It's funny because not to go off on a tangent
too much here, but it was Drew Bletsoe and Rick Meyer, right,
and a similar to Bletsoe, Rick Meyer and Marcus Mariota
and Jameis Winston and their luck and they're still in
the league, but their career back up.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, uh RG three and uh Andrew Luck a little bit.
But I think Luck was more of a hey, you
gotta take care. Yeah, yeah, I think and maybe Manning.
I think hang on Luck was more of a you
got to take Andrew Luck than Manning was over Ryan
Leif I agree with that, I think there were some people.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Ryan Leaf maybe more raw talent blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
A lot of people forget Manning lost all four times
to University flour Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, that was the other one, the big one. He
never won a big game, win the national championship the
year after he leaves.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, exactly, T Martin. So you're thinking, Ah, this guy's
you know, overrated, and then of course it's turned into
that Cam Newton is in the same class as former
coach Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera now that GM for the
cow Birds on his College Football Hall of Fame. A
lot of these names that you start reading, you're like, oh, man,
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like you you can remember, Like I saw Peter Warwick
up close and personal in ninety nine when they played
Florida after his whole Dillard's incident.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, I don't know that I've ever seen a crowd
out for Blood.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
More of that game, sure than that Florida crowd was
for Peter Warrick because he had returned. Like the game
before the game, Peter wark was having a Heisman winning
season in ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Floridatay was great.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Then this incident comes up where he and Lavernius Coles
were getting a discount at a Dillard's in Tallahassee, could.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
You imagine that today? Yeah, you gotta test cow the legal.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Benefit yestre So Coles had some issues before.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
His name was trouble. So they kick Coles off the team.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They suspend Wark for like three games, so the heisman
is now dead. Comes back, he plays a game, but
now he's got to go into Gainesville. They're undefeated and
I'll never forget they give him the ball. I want
to say they snapped it to him when we went
to the quarter he started one way, who came all the
way back the other way and beat everybody for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Thought, man, this dude's different. And it's like the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That we ended up seeing like up close, and they
played in the national Championship, played championhip, won.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
That was against VIC. Yep. That was when running quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We looked around and went a, you know, might be
kind of nice to have a running quarterback because this
VIC guy is prettyamn good.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It a lost.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Michael Vick put on quite the show Texans Villain and
Dominican Sue. Where does he rank on the Texans Villains list?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Mark top five? Man, He's He's the sweetest dude I've
ever met. He really really is. He really super cool.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Some guys who are who are nasty on the field
can be nasty out the field.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Warren sapp he was some guys most general dude. Like
we did a Lombardi event this is nine. It was
the Thursday, Wednesday or Thursday after they played Texas in
the Big twelve championship game and almost beat Texas, and
Sue was incredible. He was unbelievable And he couldn't have
been nicer. I did some of the MCing events for
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that night, and he could not have been nicer to
me after.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
The event like he was. I would play super cool.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I would put Albert Hainsworth as a higher ranked villain
against the Texans than and Dominican Sue.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
But Sue's up there. He might not be top five, Johnny,
he's top ten. He's got to be only because he's
his hit.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I'll put that at Air Quotes on Matt Schob in
Detroit in twenty twelve. I think that's where it started
to go a little bad for Matt.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Right after it started.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It kicked in the wherever he got kicked by in
Dominican Sue, and then you see a little drop off it. Well,
we talked about it what happened at the end of
that season. Even though they pulled that game out, it's
never quite the same after that, quite the same.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
I'll give you another name because there are two NFL
at least two NFL head coaches on this College Football
Hall of Fame, and Kellen Moore would be the other one,
along with Demiko Ryans.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, Kelling Moore and Demiko Ryans, your two NFL head coaches,
Kellen Moore, Boise State, just to go over for the
New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
These names just you're right about that. You're right about
the names.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I mean, it's just such memoryly Antoine Randall l from
playing QB at Indiana, which obviously made a lot of
noise this past season.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Beast Mode, Marshaun Lynch from cow James Laurnidis. A lot
of people don't realize James Laurnidis is now the Ohio
State linebackers coach, Sebastian Janakowski, Ironhead Hayward Percy Harvin one
of the better players I can ever remember. He was
absolutely incredible And for your Texas Tech fans out there,
Byron Hansbart Johnny great running back coaches on the list,
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I'm not impressed.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I don't know if we have to vote any of
these into the college. We don't have to fame Larry. Look,
I love Larry Cooker. I don't know if he's a
college football Hall of Famer. Now, if you're gonna tell
me that you win a national championship, you should be
in fine.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Okay, right?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, And he played, he coached his team to another
national championship.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
They lost that one. Bad call.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
They lost that one to Ohio State. Dennis Franconi. I
don't know about Hall of Fame. I mean, good coach,
but it.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Didn't go well at A and M.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
We all know that, and and TCU went better. But
it's not like I guess he led TCU to their
first postseason birth in a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean that helps.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Come on the other coaches Hall of Fame. Ralph Frigin
Hall of Fame. He was such a good offensive coach man,
he was a really good offensive I don't know if
i'd say Hall of famer though.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Gary Patterson tremendous body of work at TCU. Hall of fame,
maybe just because he really got that program going on
a national scope.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But Chris Peterson, see I could see this a little
bit more.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I could see Chris Peterson over the others. He made
Boise into Boise. Even though Dirk Cutter was before him,
Chris Peterson took over. It was like Dan Hawkins left,
Peterson takes over.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
To undefeated seasons. Peterson got them to a different level.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
And he got Washington to the College Fotball Playoff when
it was just a four team playoff.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
So how about getting Boise.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
If we live in today's world, they'd play in another
one or two playoffs.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, you know that'd be cool? Yeah, very well. So
there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Damika Ryan's up for college Football Hall of Fame status. Now,
what if I said to you the Texans were gonna
spend not just one game playing internationally, they were gonna
go for a couple of them. Because NFL Europe's Division
is now added to the NFL, could it happen? Well,
the NFLPA is aware and thinking about it. We'll discuss
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that next on Texans All Access. What's up, everybody? Welcome
back to this Monday edition of Texans All ACTSSS. We've
got a big guest joining us tomorrow night. That's all
I'm gonna say. Got a big guest joining us tomorrow starter.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yees. Starter.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
We could say a little bit more about where he's from,
but that might give you.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We're not gonna say anything else other than a starter. Yeah,
will join us tomorrow night. That's right, the starter will
join us tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Exclusive.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
But it's definitely a guy you want to listen to
for more than five minutes, So we'll have that for
you tomorrow night. Okay, mark this story. In fact, you
alerted me to this story. I didn't even see this.
The headline from po Football Talk says NFLPA ponders eventual
NFL push for European Division.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Geez, so, here's.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What Florida, here's what Florio says. Per source with knowledge
of the situation, NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell has been
actively discussing the pros and cons of putting multiple teams
and more than two hundred union jobs on another continent.
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The NFL Players Association, as Florio said, we're told, is
preparing for the NFL to eventually make a push for
a four team European division. There are so many things,
so many things to go with this number four. You
got number one four team division. That's four cities in Europe. Yeah, London, Paris, Barcelona, Barcelona,
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something in Germany, Germany, somewhere in Germany.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
I don't know which one. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, we solve that problem. Okay, so that's good. Those
are your four teams. That's the easy part. That's the
easy part. Seconds now you add Now you're adding four
more teams.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So my guess is those are four expansion teams. Well,
you would think four expansion teams. Is there anybody ripe
to move?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
And people would say Jacksonville, But they're putting a lot
of money into that un stadium coplay, so I don't
think they're going to move. I still see them playing
at least a couple of games overseas every year. But
you know, one road, one home, so to speak. But
I can't imagine who else is ripe to go. You know,
other situation is gonna send a team over there. So
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let's just go at the minimum. It's got to be
two three expansion teams.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Man, you try to put four expansion teams out there,
I don't know how you do it. I would think
that they would maybe buy or somehow come up with
some arrangement with the UFL and the UFL would sort
of be at this auditioning ground.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I don't know how you do not promotion relegation.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
You know, but you have to have more development than
just having an expansion draft for four teams and throwing
four new teams out.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
There, as you just said, as Howse said, that's two
hundred or more than two hundred. If you fifty three
mans roster, you're talking to two hundred and twelve plus
practice squad plus.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So imagine an expansion draft. You leave all right, so
they're thirty two teams. You do the fuzzy math here,
you leave ten players. Oh no, you leave seven eight players.
I'm protected. There's your expansion draft, and they're all gone.
I mean they all gotta go. That fills the two
hundred well plus plus draft and whatever else? Do they
get multiple Like when the Texans entered the league, they
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had thirteen picks in the college draft thirteen one in
the first round, and then two in each round thereafter,
So thirteen draft choices. Can you imagine what Nick would
do with thirteen draft choices?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh god, we should talk to him, like fifteen different trades.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
I would have throw that one out there.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So you imagine if you had thirteen picks at a
draft heading in, so.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
The number five pick in the draft next year ends
up being well, I don't know, quarterback Leonoris sellars to
the London Monarchs. I mean, weird, how are play? That's
one of the things Fourio hits on. He says, it's
one thing to tell a twenty one year old who'd
prefer to live in his hometown of Pittsburgh has moved
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to Seattle. It's another to tell a kid from Phoenix
that he's packing for Frankfurt.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yep, that's gonna be weird. It's a global village now
we all know. But that's really tough stuff. The other
thing is this, and this gets brought up a lot.
Never mind going overseas playing and they come here play,
They'll come here two three weeks and you'll go back.
You'd need the Greenbrier or similar practice facilities. You could
solve that part of it. It's still gonna be a
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major hassle, but you can solve it. But teams are
signing guys all the time. You got to get them physicals.
You'd need an office here either for each team. Yeah,
as central international office where you give players physicals. They
all agree that this is gonna be our our platform
for physicals.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
So we pass guys that.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
We can sign them over there and they can fly
over and you know sign you know, the equivalent of
the NBA ten day, because that happens here with the league,
where you just sign guys and you're trying to fill
spots because you have injuries galore.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Would there be thirty two different embassies in each of
those four towns, like there's a Texans embassy in France, No,
I mean, or one You're you're gonna say just one
league office.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You're gonna have to have a lot of trust here,
and I mean there's a lot that would have to go.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I mean, you just think about all the things that
we take for granted, just as it pertains to just
healthcare and all those different things.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I know, the NFL is a different animal together.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I think much more likely here is is we're gonna
go to eighteen games and everybody's going to play internationally
every year, right, So what you're gonna be able to
do in Europe is have multiple games in each of
those cities we just mentioned, right or each of those
countries at least right where London. You're gonna get four, five,
six games a year, and they'll sell that as a
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season ticket and you can see all the games or
buy in spots or whatever. They'll sell the thing out
because they do now. So you'll go four or five
in England, four or five in Germany, something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's how they're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
And then they'll still play their one offs in Brazil, Australia, China.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
I mean we're headed there.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
We're headed to this world of international ball trying to
promote the game global.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
They're gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I mean, maybe you're not gonna have an NFL division,
but to your point, could you play six games at
Tottenham or six at Wembley, different six.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
In Paris, six in Germany? Almost look at all the
games they have in London every year.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, can continue to do that's that's one city, duplicate
that throughout Europe and then figure out the rest of
the world.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I just think I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I think the division over there a I think it's
the only way you can do it. I think you
need to have a group that can be over there
for significant stretches of time, play teams that are visiting
play their own division games, come to the States for
a four or five week swing. But how difficult is that?
I mean, you just you know the level of balance
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that the NFL has. Everybody's got the same salary cap,
everybody's got the same roster numbers.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
You know, there's so many things that are similar and
homogenious in the NFL. But all of a sudden, if
you take a team that's over in Europe and now,
all of a sudden, they got a five weeks stay
over in the United States to play five games or whatever.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
I think three is max.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, but even at that point, you got to go
for three weeks, yeah, into you know, to a foreign
country at that point, to you and play three games,
you got me.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Everything that goes about eight weeks is really more like
because you're gonna fly in, let's say you did it
the way you do it over there. Let's just take
the opposite route. We're going to Europe for three weeks
to play three different teams. Okay, so you fly to
London on the Thursday, you play on the Sunday, you recover,
you play the following weekend. So I've been there a
little week plus and now I play one more week,
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and I play that final game and I head back.
So I haven't been there exactly three total weeks of time.
It's been more like, I don't know, seventeen days but picnic.
But at least it's kind of like when the Spurs
have to leave their own arena because they have the
rodeo every year. It's not quite like that, but you
get my drift. You're just gonna get used to your
international trip. When does our international trip.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Fall in twenty twenty eight? You know?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
No, but no, no, we're going to do this every
year if you have a division over there, All right,
certain teams will have to do that every year, but
some won't and that's going to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
That's exactly right. Some won't. It won't be every year.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
The best thing that happened to the league so far
with international play was both teams that went to Brazil
ended up making the playoffs. One actually won the Super Bowls, right,
and then they can always point to that, right, hopefully
always for them because this year, what's the matchup Chargers
Chiefs Chargers Chiefs, And they'll pray that both those teams
make the playoffs. So they could say, look, it doesn't
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affect you on the field. Really, both those teams were
solid getting into the postseason. It did not affect them
negatively throughout the regular season. I don't know how they
handle all that, but I think it's it's not likely.
It's easier. I'll put that in the air quotes to
do it in the NBA, to form a division over there,
have some sort of expansion draft, form a division. You
already have European league play. You could have an NBA division,
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have some travel stay over there for if you stay
there ten, you play three games, and that's kind of good.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
You're right, you knock some action out.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't know exactly how the logistics would be for them,
but I think it's easier in that.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Game, and that game is already a global game.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, so there are things you can do with basketball
that obviously are more difficult than football. I mean, you're
talking me into it, or easier than football to pull you're.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Talking me into it. I just felt like, if you're
going to do it, that's kind of the way to
do it. But I like the idea of look, everybody's
playing in the national games anyways. I mean, you could
come up with a way that all thirty two teams.
So if all thirty two teams play internationally, that's six
that's sixteen games.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, sixteen games.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, sixteen games. So can you come up with sixteen
like four and one location for another four another four another.
I mean, I don't know, maybe you.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Can do that.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You're but you still have the Jacks who want to
play over there and they want to play a couple
of time. Right, so now you have you have what
you have now, which is not everybody plays internationally every year.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Some people are going to have to stay.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Like the Vikings are staying for two they're in Dublin
and where else are they go?
Speaker 1 (40:04):
In Germany or something?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Dublin and then they all right whatever, but they're doing too.
Ireland and then London they're doing a double dip right right, right,
So somebody's gonna do multiple teams do double dips every year.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
That's gonna be your test case. That's your test case.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Can NFL teams go over there and play and they're
in two different countries that Jackson.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
The Jacks have done it. Jacks have done it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Yeah, Ireland England is like going from uh, you know, Philly,
New York almost understood.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, but yeah, it's I I would love to go
back there. Internationally, I feel like we had a great
time we went to London. It helped obviously that we
won the game. It is a hell of a trip.
It is a hell of a turnaround to fly Thursday
mid afternoon, land in London, Friday morning, go through practice.
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Then obviously we had to radio that night and then
get Saturday. So you and I took in a Fulham game,
which was fantastic, and then the next day you play
your game and then you fly out of there. You
remember what happened the very week we came back after that,
the next game got a butts kicked. And that year,
for some reason, every team that came back from London
was getting hammered, even though they had to bye week
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after that game, they were getting We.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did have the buye, we did have bye.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I think that game was more like we didn't know
what to do with Lamar Jackson. I think you're right,
but maybe it would have been better. And look, that
team also bounced back victory over the Colts, beat the
Patriots and then got blown out by Denver at home.
So who knows that team a kind of that scientific
that team was up and down. They were kind of
ups than downs, but the downs were pretty down.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, the downs were low, they were they were unfortunately
too low. But the NFLPA is at least looking at
the situation and trying to be cognizant of the fact
that something could arise. Now, there's nothing coming from the NFL.
This is coming from the nfl PA, Florio continued. From
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Leak's perspective, there's no evidence that a plan is in
place to put one or more teams in Europe the
foreseeable future. The goal for now has expand the number
of permissionable international games under the CBA from ten to sixteen,
so that's obviously something that they would have to cross
that hurdle. So there there definitely is that the Vikings
play consecutive games. As we mentioned, it's the first effort
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to evaluate the impact of a multi week feign trip.
That's not actually true because Jacksonville has done that, but
they stayed in London. They're doing it in two countries
for Vikings, so we'll see about that.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Okay, Will there be a four team division over in Europe?
I doubt, I seriously doubt it.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
I seriously doubt it, but I do think they'll get
to sixty international games.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh yeah, that's gonna happen. Yeah, that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And whether it's London and whether the's city that gets
you know, a decent chunk of those particular games. We
got all these different one offs. You know, we'll see
if Ireland sticks on the schedule. We'll see if you know,
Australia can make it a couple of years from now,
so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, well we get back. Well, it was a day
of retirement.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
It's including a Houston Texan. He was in Houston, Texan
for very long. But we'll discuss that next and the
retirements around the league happening after June.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
First, that's sex the Texans All Access. What's happened? Everybody.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Welcome to this final segment of Texans All Access before
it turned over to Area forty five this evening on
Sports Radio six to ten. I'm your host, Jean Harris,
football and all the sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.
Let's get to some news around the league and start
right here at home with the retirement Ronald Darby, Texan. Well,
(43:37):
I guess former Texan had signed with the team. Probably
it was into free agency. It wasn't the week of
free agency when everybody signing a big deals kind of
wait for everything shake out, sign a deal with the Texans.
I thought that Darby would come in and give this
Texans team what it needed, kind of a third corner
who could move around a little bit, see some things,
(43:57):
make some plays, and and not have to play one
hundred percent of the snaps. Kind of the way we
looked at Jerry Hughes over the last few years when
Jerry was on the field.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Hey, we need Jerry to rush ten to fifteen times.
That's it.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
That's all we need him to do. I need to
play ron Just come rush. I feel like the same
way with Ronald Darby. Come in cover for ten to
fifteen plays in a game. In a way we go.
But today it was announced that Ronald Darby is retiring
from the NFL. He was in his eleventh year of
the league. He had been around, Like I said, he
had seen some things. Seasoned guy. Now the Texans, depending
(44:32):
on how you look at that cornerback room staying last,
no doubters, no doubt, no question about either one of them,
right now just staying healthy after that d'anzel Ross. We've
seen d Row have to play some meaningful minutes and
snaps for this team over the years. You've also got
(44:53):
Jalen Smith, the rookie out of US Sea, who's done
a little bit of everything. You know, Ta's he's been outside,
he's been inside. It's gonna be a pretty good competition,
I would think for that next cornerback spot. Does it
end up being a veteran obviously I thought it would
be Round Darby, Stefan Gilmore. Does he want to take
(45:15):
up residence in Houston. Don't know at this point and
probably not pertinent at this point. Let some guys get
a lot of reps, see what they do with them,
and they get to training camp and see if you
need some bolstering of that unit. But Ronald Darby retiring
today from the NFL, now, I think I was probably surprised.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I didn't really see that coming.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
But when it guys in year eleven and you're going
through OTA's and you're not the starter, it's kind of
challenging you.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
To, like, man, I really want to do this. We
don't know.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Darby's not talk, probably not gonna talk so we'll see
what ends up happening with him, but no longer a
Texan as he retires in the Texans sent out that
notice earlier this afternoon, now a retirement that like, wait,
what am I reading that right? I actually was on
Twitter earlier this afternoon and I had seen a couple
(46:08):
of tweets posts about Frank Ragnow and you know how
good he had been, his PFF numbers, he's one of
the best all that. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I agree
with all that, and then that's always like, why why
is this coming out now?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
This is kind of random?
Speaker 2 (46:21):
And then I'm literally the next tweet, Frank Ragnow announces
his retirement from the NFL. Twenty nine years old, or
the best centers to have played in Detroit, one of
the best centers in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Frank Ragnow calls it quits. Now.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I saw a tweet a little bit later that said,
well you should have known the Lions drafted two interior
offensive linemen in this draft. It's like, yeah, your antennant
goes up for that kind of thing, but it doesn't register. Okay,
Frank Ragnow is twenty nine years old, he's gonna stop
playing football. But He just said the physical grind was
just tearing his body down. He said, s time to
start feeling good again. Frank ragnow retires from the Detroit Lions.
(47:03):
Brandon Graham's retirement was made one hundred percent sett in Stone.
Eagles announced that today speaking the Eagles not a retirement
but a Madden cover. Sa Quon Barkley will be the
cover man for Madden twenty six. Good luck to Saquon,
and please stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
That's all I'd like to be able to see you
do this year.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Please stay healthy and you'll probably go over two k
again behind that offensive line. Alight, it's gonna do it
for the show. Appreciate Mark, all of you guys for listening.
Thanks to my guys back in studio at Sports Radio six'.
Ten we'll see tomorrow, Everybody ota, number what the four
or something like, THAT i don't. Know first one of
the week we'll be able to see. It we'll break
it all down here On Texans All. Access see, tomorrowybody
and there's always Go.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
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