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Safety Jalen Pitre, former O-lineman Chris Clark and Special Teams Coordinator Frank Ross joined the show and shared some interesting stories.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up and everybody, Welcome to a fridayation of Texans

(00:02):
All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I am
your host, Sean Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your
Houston Texans. It's a flashback Friday. We've got a lot
for you this evening, and it's gonna start with a
guy that actually, he did such a great interview with

(00:22):
US man, I'd like to bring him back former Texans
here seventeen through I'm sorry, fifteen through seventeen and then nineteen,
my man Chris Clark. We had a blast talking to
one of Louisiana's finest.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Chris Clark joined US man. It was a blast.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Take a listen in the Honday Texans Radio Studio with us.
It's Chris Clark, Texans legend, former offensive lineman, left tackle,
right tackle, played a bunch of spots.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Chris, great to have you with us.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Oh appreciate you having me, Guys, appreciate it well.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Tell us you walk into the building here. I know
you do Legends appearances as part of the Legends community.
In his right to see out and about with some
of the other guys at the events and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
What's it like for you to walk in the building
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
I wish I could play again.

Speaker 6 (01:09):
Man, y'all have it. It looks so nice. I mean
every nook and cranny of the building. Man, it's it's
a player's dream. It's it's designed in a way where
you want to be here longer. You know, you want
to go in the cafeteria, eat long you stay longer,
you want to go in the training room and get
proper work done, and in the weight room. I mean,

(01:30):
it's just desirable for any NFL player that wants to
prolong their career.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Playing Chris, as you're going through your career and you
talked about playing Sundays are awesome, I mean playing from
the crowd, I mean Monday Night's, Sundays whatever, they're awesome.
But the prep that goes into it is that the
is that the grind that's so hard to get through
for a lot of guys where they're just like, man,
I'm just done, Like I love Sundays, but man, Monday

(01:55):
through Saturday, those are pretty tough.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
I don't know I can go through that.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Is that is that kind of how a lot of
guys that have played in the league look at it, like, Hey, Man,
I can go play again, but I don't want to
go through the whole week.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Of practice and all that nonsense.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Absolutely, Sundays Sundays are fun.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
You enjoy that there's no stress because the stress, you know,
it hits you during the week, right when it's hot outside.
You outside in pads peak weather, right peak sun, and
it's it's like, dude, it's so hot outside. I don't
really want to be out there. But you know that's
the grind going ones versus ones. Right when I was here,

(02:31):
going against your davy and clowny JJ Widde or Whitney
merciless like that was the grind for me. So I
had to come to work and that is you know,
you feel like if it was just Sundays. You have
a lot of guys playing fifteen years that can play twenty,
it would be like le Bron Jay's trying to trying
to keep going. Man.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
But yeah, that.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
That that week up into it, man, you really have
to work and get it done.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Chris Clark joining US former Texans offensive lineman. So you
got it to the league in eight an undrafted free agent.
So the Texans have some of those you're can identify
with what they're going through. What was that like for
you with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at the time, because
you didn't join the Texans until twenty fifteen through twenty seventeen,
then had another stint in twenty nineteen, so you managed

(03:15):
to carve out quite the career really as an undrafted
free agent. Very impressive. What was that initial time like
for you in this league?

Speaker 5 (03:23):
It was it was rough. For me.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
It was rough only because I was my hardest critic.
I was my hardest critic, and my mom always told me,
you know, judge yourself the hardest. Don't let someone else
judge you harder than you judge yourself. So for me
man being undrafted, you know, getting calls on draft day
talking to teams like we want a drafted You're on
our draft board. You're a second day type guy. I had,

(03:49):
you know, good expectations that I was going to be drafted.
So when it didn't happen, immediately, I had a chip
on my shoulder. I was pissed and I held on
to that. So you asked why I was able to
place so long, It's because even going into year twelve,
I felt like the eight kid. I felt like I
wasn't good enough even when I was the starter right
one year I had, I gave up one sack the

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whole year, didn't make the Pro Bowl, and.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
All of it.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
I just felt like I was never good enough or
they always were going to replace me. And it was
feel of my fire. So I tell guys now when
I talk to them, Hey, make sure right you know
why you're doing this. Make sure that you're in this
right for the right reasons, because if you lose sight
of that, you know why you're doing this or what's

(04:34):
important to you, And I promise you, it's going to
be over for you. You disrespect the game, and it's over
for you. I don't care how good you are, all
pro whatever. Soon as that chink of on, that chink
of Alma shows and you disrespect the game a little bit,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Wow, Chris Famously And I don't know if you ever
watched Hard Knocks in twenty fifteen, but one of the
moments in Hard Knocks is Rick Smith driving somewhere and
he's making the trade, basically consummating trade to bring you
to Houston. I don't know if you've ever seen that.
If you have your thoughts on that, but also just

(05:08):
your initial thoughts when you when you come here to
Houston in twenty fifteen. You know, it's a team that
you ended up going to the playoffs that year, but
it was not the greatest team, but it was a
team that were grind To me, it was a pretty
physical team. But your thoughts about that moment seeing on
a hard knocks seeing kind of your life kind of
play out in a sense in the NFL, and then
coming to Houston for the first time.

Speaker 7 (05:27):
What was that like?

Speaker 5 (05:28):
So it was cool?

Speaker 8 (05:29):
Man.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
So honestly, I didn't know I was being traded, but
it happened a week after we played you guys, right,
we played the Texans right in Denver, that's right, and
you got We threw in acept and I chased the
guy down It was like eighty yards. I forgot what
the guy name was, but I chased the defensive end
that caught the intercept down right, and if you give me.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
Five more yards, hey, out of cold, right.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
But you know, that's why I ended up getting traded,
and Bill O'Brien wanted me when he saw, you know,
as late as it wasn't again, this offensive lineman is
running and actually trying to get this guy, and he
saw I had no That's what he told me when
I first got here.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
You had no quit in you. You were a leader.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
And so yeah, when I when I first got here,
and I knew about Dwayne Brown because we both ate
and played each other in college as well, so me
and me and Dwayne were pretty good friends. I knew
d Wayne, but I didn't know that he had uh
he had like broke his thumb, he heat cracked a
bone or something and this dumb something like that happened.
So I didn't know he wasn't starting at the time

(06:31):
and they needed a guy. So when I got here,
I was like, oh man, I'm over here starting because
I was a starting right tackle for Denver at that time. Yeah,
I'm like, so, how that's gonna work with Dwayne you
know this and that. And then came in and they
was like, yeah, you're gonna start. I was like wait
what So you know, it's just one of those things.
And found out everything about what was going on with
Dwayne in his hand and uh yeah, we got to work.

(06:53):
My first day, they threw me in there against with
the merciless first rap.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean, this was my first thing.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Uh, I won on one pass rush, you know, and
I beat him right, and they was like, bro, we
never saw that happening with like that, you know. So
I was like, yeah, because I had just played against
him in the precincts, so I knew a little bit
about his game. And but yeah, it was it was
just one of those things, man. While I was excited,
and it gave me a chance to be close to home, right,

(07:19):
originally from New Orleans, and you know, I've played in Minnesota, Tampa, Denver.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
I've always been super far, not driving distance.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
So this was the first time I was able to
be driving distance from my family and I would have
almost twenty people at every game.

Speaker 7 (07:35):
It was.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
It was truly amazing ticket.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Yeah, I lost money during the week, yeah, you know,
buying all those tickets up, but it was worth there
because my family didn't get a chance to see me play,
you know, because of the travel.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
We'll get into why you settled into Houston. But playing
left tackle and right tackle, you've done both. And we
saw Blake Fisher drafted last year and he's a right tackle,
I guess, but playing them at left during training camp
because Laramie was not available to practice, so they said,
go over there left and try your luck with the starters.

(08:08):
And we've seen it from time to time with other
players and Ursery who they just picked up. Well, I
don't know if he'll play left or not, or right
or guard. What do you think of all that playing
different positions on the old line? And how hard is
it to play left versus right because you're still getting
a fire breathing, speed, demon pass rusher whether you're playing
right tackle or left tackle in most cases in this league.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
Absolutely, And for my guys that dude know about it,
they know that it's super hard. It is not the
same thing. Yeah, you literally have to use different muscles.
Your strength and dominant hand is the other side now,
So it's it's it's it's a lot, right. It's imagine
if you you play, you play tennis right and you

(08:50):
hitting the ball with your right hand, you back handed
you hitting it, and then now you break your right hand,
so now you can still do it, but you have
to train that left hand the same way. Right, So
it would be really tough. You can still go out
there and play because you can move, but it would
be a lot harder, right, So I kind of it's
kind of just like that, and it's it's a thing

(09:13):
that can be learned, but you have to put into work.
You have to be a stickler about wanting to get
better at that position. And you know, I only know
that because being undrafted. You never know. If you're not
drafted for that position, you might as well say you
play everything because wherever you need it, you have to
go in and perform.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh, guard center, sixth linemen as a tight end, got
to do it all.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
There's no question. Okay, I'm gonna take you back to
something spar with me for this. So twenty fourteen, we
go up to Denver for joint practices. Things get kind
of heated in one on once there's a particular defensive
lineman on the Texans side and tackle for the Broncos

(09:58):
that were kind of getting.

Speaker 7 (09:59):
Into a little bit.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, the next year they end up being teammates. So, hey,
what happened with you and JJ Watt and fourteen those
joint practices, Now of a sudden, you guys got to
be teammates.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
Now your offense defense.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I don't know how much you guys co exists in
the same world being offense defense, But do.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
You make amends?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Do you discuss it is it? Naw, man, he's on
my team, but I still don't like him. How do
you kind of handle a situation like that, Chris, where
you guys got heat. It got heated with you guys
in one on ones, but now a sudden your teammates
the next year, How cain do you go through that moment?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Yeah, it was definitely a moment.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
You know, we got into it, man, and just like
you know guys that do it right, it's hot out there,
everybody's pissed off and it's one of those things. And
I'm not going to go into the details about it
because it was it was, you know, one of those days,
but you know it happens. It happens on every team
and you've seen it, and it was it was it
is one of those things where they had to take

(11:01):
him out of practice because it was an ongoing thing, right,
So the textans ended up taking him out of practice
because we kept getting into it.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I wasn't gonna stop he you know, It's just one
of those things.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
And yeah, getting getting uh coming here was a little strange,
but uh, you know, I was cool with it because
once I'm done with something, I'm done with it, and
I thought he would have been the same way, but
it lingered on a little while, and you know, just
being honest, he he didn't talk to me for a while,
you know, and then uh, you know, it kept going.

(11:32):
But we didn't have much conversation. But we were teammates,
you know, at the end of the day. So I'm
sure you know, he knows how it is. And but yeah,
I mean, I don't think it's ever been mended to be.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
But really, yeah, you kind of.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Yeah, it's one of those telling you man.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I listened to Seth Payne listened to Seth talk about
offensive lineman on the daily basis he ain't an offensive
lineman on his own team.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, it's like there's just something there when you're in
a physical one on one confrontation that I mean is heated.
And as as Seth would say about offensive lineman, they
did some sneaky stuff. And then I would imagine from
your side, defensive lineman did some sneaky stuff too.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
So if I produced JJ Watt right now, and I'm
not going to this is not like some frize game
show stuff, but if I did, you guys, would you
guys bury it now?

Speaker 7 (12:27):
Maybe.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I mean yeah, I mean he he probably said he
it's nothing wrong.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
I don't even remember that, you know, something like that,
but you remember it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
It's just one of those things.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
And when he had the ceremony, I came and he
shook my hand and everything like that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was all good. So a grown men, all right,
you get over it. It was just something that happened back
then or whatever. But knowing that just happened and then
he gets traded here, right, that puts a bad taste
in his mind.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah. So you know, just it's uh, just one of
those things.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm telling you, those one on ones that oh you
remember watching those and I'm like, damn, And then I
remember when you got traded. I remember that. I was like, damn, man,
Chris got after it that day. It's gonna be good,
you know. I mean, like that's what I pointed to,
was like there were there wasn't There weren't a lot
of people because JJ was coming off you know that
fourteen season where nobody blocked him, like nobody, I mean,

(13:19):
like he was, you know, peak JJ, and yet you're
getting after with him in practical I'm like, man, it's
gonna be good, you know, and then we're seeing it
all like play out on Hard Knocks, which obviously is
a week after. But I remember when it was announced
because we knew about you know, we knew guys were
hurting me, Like now he's traded for Chris Clark.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Yeah, but it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And it ended up being you know, you ended up
being a key piece on those offensive lines when we
really needed you.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
So but I don't think people.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Really understand, like it gets so like there're gonna be
guys that do hold grudges. For the greatest of all time,
Michael Jordan holds probably one hundred grudges to this day.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Poor things that.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Happened because of what some guys said to media or
what some guy held them ten points one night him
and I took that personally.

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean still.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
To this day, Michael Jordan and Isaiah Thomas they don't speak,
they do not speak, and they're like enemies. And it
was because of he was in Detroit at the time
and they used to beat up and the Dream Team
and the Dream Team situation stuff.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
So man, it's one of those things, man.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
But yeah, We're not that that right, but yeah, man,
it's it's all good. I love the way you know,
his career has gone and it's been an amazing He's
a great dude.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Okay, So Chris Clark with us by the way, Texans
Legends community member and joining us in studio. We have
a lot to get to with you offensive line. We've
talked about this many times on this program, the togetherness
you need, and obviously they blew the thing up from
last year. Three starters on the line from opening day gone.

(14:54):
They bring in new guys, they draft mostly free agent, acquisitions, trades,
that kind of thing. What do you make of it?
What they're trying to put together here? Our take is, hey,
they're Tamiko Ryans. The defense looks like Demiko Ryans, and
maybe he wants the offensive line to look like Demiko
Ryans as well.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
What are you to have? Good offensive linemen? I'm gonna
be honest with you. A good offensive lineman is a
guy that's aggressive, like a defensive lineman, has the same mindset.
That's what made me pretty good, right I played defensive
end in high school. So being able to have that
mindset that killer. It's a different mindset between like offensive
line guys. That's usually nice guys, but then you you

(15:35):
meet those guys who very aggressive. You like Jesus, he
likes he's like a defensive line, right, So I feel
like that's what he's feeling the room with those tons
of guys and mean guys, aggressive guys. But in order
to be successful at offensive line, I truly know that
these guys have to have a great relationship outside of

(15:57):
this room, outside of this this locker room.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
Right.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
If you're only being together, being a unit when we
come to the meeting or you know, eating together, that's
not enough outside of here. You also have to have
a brotherhood outside of the shield of the Texans, you know.
But you got to have the proper people in the
room to do those things. Like I played with Lerman
nineteen when I came back, and you know, great guy.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
I loved them. We got along good.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
That was one of the reasons they brought me back
because I was one of the guys I was able
to bring the shawn. They brought me because they said,
you can bring the Shawn back with the offensive lineman, right,
because they literally wasn't having conversation.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
So being able to be at peace, right, because we had.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
A relationship because I was here before when he first
got drafted, I brought him. He started showing up at
old line dinners and all of these different things.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
So the chemistry it really right. I was more of
a leader in the room.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
I helped Huntu lead that offensive line room, so he
kind of was a little brother to me, right, And
I was there for because I was a guy, kept
my nose clean and did the right things, so exactly
to shake up that he's doing. And in Titus Howard,
he has those same qualities titles will be able to
keep this room together. Scrugs is another one, right. I've

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been around him a few times in off season and
it was sad to see Kenyan gringo. But I told
him before he got draft. I was actually with him
before the draft, the day before the draft, and I
told him, I said, your best knowing he was from here,
I said, your best scenario is to not go to
the Texans. I'm gonna be honest with you, and it's
only because I know how family can hinder you.

Speaker 7 (17:34):
Right.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
It can be a nuisance sometimes and you don't really
be able to get the same output out of that player.
That you can get out out of the output in
another city, you know, And that's pretty much you'll see
him flourish, right, which you will be good for him
and his family.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
That'll be good. But I do like the trade that
we made for going to Johnson as well.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Let me put that out there, right. He's an aggressive
guy leadership. Won a super Bowl. Now that you've won
a super Bowl, right, you've been there, you know what
the goal is. He'll be able to help help these
guys in the locker room who haven't been close to
sniffing it. He'll be able to help these guys. No,
this is what it's about. We're not training to win
the division. We're training to win in the playoffs. We're

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training to win the last game, right, the last man standing.
When you have guys around you that's been there and
understand that, it becomes this is what we set in stone,
this is what our team is built off of. And
you get enough guys believing in that, it's contagious, man,
and I swear everybody will buy in, and the younger

(18:35):
guys coming in will buy in. So knowing, like I said,
get back to the old line. He's made some good choices.
He's made some great guys. We have a great room.
But I really think the shakeup was the offensive line,
not the players. I truly think it was the offensive
line coach because you have to and I didn't know him,

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but just watching him as a group, the unison wasn't there, right,
looking at the left guard and the left tackle, they're
not even talking, right, there's no conversation. I'm watching them
when they come over to the bench, what's happening. They're
not conversing and breaking down kind of like a debriefing.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Right.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
You need these things as an offensive line. What's going on,
Let's talk And if your leadership is not doing that,
then you won't be able to be a connecting unit.
So it's just one of those things, man, that's the
little things. And right, nah, I'm coaching little kids and
I'm teaching them that already.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
So yeah, like I told you, I had some some things.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Going on, you know with the Ravens. I had mentioned
to you. But yeah, man, it's just one of those things.
I understand it a lot, going through the fire, being
playing ball for over twenty years right collectively, and it's
just one of those things. But they you know, he's
shaking it up in the right way.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
It was great having Chris on with us earlier this spring.
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Speaker 1 (21:10):
Back with us, if you don't mind, to when you
actually started cutting hair, what that was all about. And
obviously it's gone into this incredible event that you have
now done for a number of years.

Speaker 7 (21:21):
But where does it where does it go to? When
did you start doing this?

Speaker 8 (21:24):
So it comes and starts from a place of absolute
frugality and cheap.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Frank So, I'm a freshman.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
I'm a freshman in college and I had cut hair
doing the summer cuts at basketball and football camp in
high school. But freshman year walk on to campus in
two thousand and six and they said it was going
to be seventeen dollars for a haircut.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
I said, nope.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
I went over to the Walmart, I grabbed a set
of clippers, and I taught myself how to cut my
own my roommates and then on Tuesday nights it turned
into the common area in the dorm rooms was a
barbershop and I made my spending money there.

Speaker 7 (22:00):
I was your nil money anil money.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
It was two thousand and six nil money was coach's
cuts starting in the lobby of.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
The dorm rooms.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, so I got a hair story big goes way
way back. But we had a buddy of ours, a
buddy of ours had cancer, and so we decided we
were going to save our heads. Before we did that,
we were gonna do all these crazy haircuts. And we
had a buddy that was like, I don't trust y'all.
Did you have teammates that took a little while to
get them to trust you to cut your hair?

Speaker 8 (22:23):
You gotta do some trust earning along the way. When
you get to a status. When the head coach, my
my college head coach, redescafe Italian guy, Frank, I need
you to need to cut my hair. I cut his
hair sitting in his in his office, in his office chair.
I cut his hair and he had the kind of
the seventies like little poof to his hair, and I

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used the scissors in the whole deal.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
So I had a nice little reputation going yeah, yeah,
Because there's a difference between cutting hair the way you
wear it right now, which.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
Is straight, standard, high and tight. Yeah, yeah, pretty, I'm
pretty easy.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
And then the layering effect that others might like or whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, you get coach wrong, he's got take away
your target. That's right, that's right. You gotta be you
gotta get him.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
So we we we grew it along the way.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
I got to a point where I was cutting coaches
and players in the locker room, even in the NFL.
I cut the whole staff on my old team. I
cut everybody, including the head coach.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
I cut. I still cut.

Speaker 8 (23:14):
I cut serious hair the other day I cut the
gen You know, it's it's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
I think that's just a worthy that's just the number
five or whatever. Right, there's some there's.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
Some things that I would recommend go to somebody else.
But I got the standards down.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Wait, you're self taught, though self taught, self taught by sound.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
You just got the same amount.

Speaker 8 (23:35):
Take off, the same amount, same amount, check it out,
same amount, same amount, same amount.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Change. That's how I do it. Oh my yeah, I
couldn't think about two of my own. I mean, my
hair is the whole mess anyways, I couldn't think about that.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Get Ny in the chair.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
The first time I found out you cut hair. I'll
never forget it. Was your first year here and you're
walking on the the hallway and we got to know
each other a little bit. But you said to me, hey,
did you get haircut? I was like, it wasn't like hey.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
John, how you doing? Or Hey, what's going on? You know, hey,
what do you think about? Put?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Team?

Speaker 7 (24:07):
Is like, hey, you cant haircut? I was like I
did as a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
And so that's when you know, coach, and I've always
wanted you to be able to do it because I
don't want to pay seventeen bucks.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
There you go, there, there you go.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
No.

Speaker 8 (24:17):
I regularly and routinely I comment on people's hair, but
hopefully they don't take offense to oh nice cut. Nice
you know, I noticed it too much, but drawn to it.

Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I have to ask you this because I think the
first time I saw you really coaching the team was
during this time of year and we had one of
the big monitors out there. It's like this huge flat
screen or something. Yeah, not describing it properly, but you're demonstrating.
You're showing the guy something, and I thought, he's a teacher.
You know, he's a coach, he's a teacher. How has
your style of teaching and relating to the players evolved

(24:49):
over the years. If at all it's the same time,
this is the way that works, or what have you
added to it or taken.

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Away or whatever awesome question.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
View myself as a teacher every day and just the
subject material is football. Like I'm a teacher first, the
fun part of my job is to find out how
to have fifty three different sets of ears that learn
differently getting them on the same page.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
Great.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
So my teaching needs to reflect that and I need
to make sure I'm accommodating each different learning style. So
to be a good teacher, you got to understand your
audience on who is learning in what ways, so big
into the demonstrative motions and me getting out and doing
the physical. I always make sure like a little thing
I do. If I'm coaching you here, you're looking at me,

(25:37):
but I'll turn around and coach this way, yeah, because
this is our right hand and I want you to
see it if you're facing that way.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
Yeah, you know, just little things to be precise.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
We've used the video screens to class on the grass
before class, on the crass on the grass and just
to just do some different you know, media as well
as you know real time movement with football and keeping it,
you know, different elements to teach with.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Frank, I always thinking about you during the rookie mini
camp because there are a lot of times when rookies
set foot on our campus, they may have never played
special team, may have never been a gunner, they may
have never been a protector on punt team. I'm watching
Woody marks, and I love Woody what he's done a
lot throughout his career. I don't know how often Woody

(26:28):
was the wing on punt you know, on punt protection.
So now you've got all these guys that have never
played special teams and you're basically introducing it to him
for the first time. What's that experience like, not only
for them, but for you to really kind of take
it back to the basics for them.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
Back to the basics. So first off, I got to
find your baseline. And obviously I've we've met with these guys.
It's not like David Rynery, show up, don't know who
you are, But there's there's going to be an introductory
level of fundamentals and you're gonna have that progression playing
of teaching from different points of view like you know,
all right, I'm gonna make it relatable for Woody, Woody,

(27:05):
this is past protection against a Blitzeen linebacker, and we
need to stay inside out as an example, right, a
super genuine generalized example right there. But try and make
it relatable and then we don't let them. You know,
the other part is with those specific cases, there is
a total blank canvas, so you only know how to
do it, quote unquote coaches way by my way, because

(27:28):
you don't have a bunch of other experience, quite different
than a free agent that you sign who's played elsewhere
for three years in a different system.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
So everybody's different.

Speaker 8 (27:39):
The rookies a lot of progression plan teaching start to finish,
and you know, you're trying to fast forward their learning
quickly to get them up to speed. But a lot
of those guys really don't play a lot of kicking game.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
Some do.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Some you got to go digging back to tape from
you know, twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. You know,
when they just stepped onto their college campus and now
it was probably at another university, right, they've transferred three
times since, so hit the portal.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
So like you gotta do some digging.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Yeah, you gotta do some projection, you gotta do some
looking at like, Okay, does that movement skill set even
though it's not it's on offense or defense? Like, does
that fit? What I'm gonna ask you know, what type
of tackler are they?

Speaker 7 (28:20):
As a safety? What type of coverage player are they?
You know what? Do they have instincts and ball skills?
As a dB? Great?

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Can he go down a punt as a gunner in
the plus fifty territory?

Speaker 7 (28:30):
So you do some of that, but when you get here,
you're a blank slaton.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna build them with a strong
foundation and grow up from there.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
So we see offensive defense practice situational work all the time.
Special teams. It's a situation every time, every down. And
you do have those end of game situations too, didn't
we have one at the end of the Colts game
twenty twenty three finale.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
They can just kill the clock.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
The safety is that you don't have much time to
practice that kind of stuff. Some of that must be
drawn up in the dirt. Okay, you do this and that.
The other thing tell us about those.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
We like to think we're prepared on as much as
we can be.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
It's a little street ball and everything, right, you got
to go play ball, But no, there nothing can be
exactly precise, Just like the red zone offense, like they're
gonna have they're gonna practice from the one yard line.
They're gonna practice, but there's gonna be a twelve yard
line where you're kind of in that no man's like
those are going to happen, so you cannot prepare for everything. Truthfully,

(29:29):
the special teams nuanced situations have lessened a lot with
the new kickoff. For example, how are you gonna play
the end of the half kicks? There used to be
used to see deep squibs just to get the ball
bounce in. They can't set up a beautiful return track
and catch it on the fly. Maybe the fullback returns

(29:50):
it instead of the deep the deep return man. So
those are gone, one second bunt, you know, just all
of those.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
They're kind of eliminated.

Speaker 8 (30:00):
Way they've changed going into this year, Can I talk
about man I talk about the new kickff stuff? Yeah,
absolutely so going into this year, right, you cannot on
side kick until the second half, right, Okay, so at
the end of the first half, and there's you know,
seven seconds left, go ahead and kick a touch back.

(30:20):
They have the ball on the thirty five like they
can get one play and then shoot a long field goal. Yea, yeah,
So you have to kick off and you have to
kick it in the field to play if you want
to if you elect and want to run time, So
like there's no put the ball on the ground and
just let some time burn off. You have to land
it in the landing zone and get So all of

(30:40):
those are the new nuanced situations. How you're going to
burn out those last call it fifteen seconds of a half.
So you know, we ended up the twenty twenty three
season regular season on Week seventeen with a safety. We
practiced that intentional safety from you know, really backed up.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
That happened from twenty two yard line.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
It was pretty cam Johnston had to run and he
almost and we still had to kick off after that.
If you remember, you remember what happened on this one second?
There was one second. He we couldn't burn one more second.
But you teach the punters like you're not a ball carrier,
don't even take a hit and work risk fumbling that ball,
right like that would be the biggest man.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah, so we kicked off with one second left. You
remember what happened.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
It was lateral lateral, and then they ended up we.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Got a takeaway right there. That's that Henry. I think
Henry came up with the ball.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
That's right.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
They were doing hopped out. That's a kickoff takeaway. I
don't know what you're looking at.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, that counts. There's my bonus.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Awesome on side kicks and the potential changes of what
can happen, I think we all you know, it's not
side kick situation. I mean it's I don't know what
the percentage chance has been lately, it's been maybe like
nine percent. You were going to get it right. Do
you think some of the changes that have been talked
about Frank my generate a couple more or a few
more hope in the on side kick again.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah, you know, the thought is that they're going to
move the kickoff team up about one more yard where
their front foot is on that yard line. We'll see
what the final end up ruling ends up being after
the owners meetings, and hopefully that gets what everybody's looking for.
Keeps the onside kick pure, it allows for an uptick
in chance for recovery just because the coverage.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
Team is down there one step earlier.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
So that bang bang, maybe that jar that ball jar
is loose a few more times results in some more recoveries.
And they're they're they're still restricted by formation restrictions and
alignment that you have to be to satisfy the rules
five by five. They don't want any looping overloads for
safety reasons.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
So you know, we'll see what it ends up being.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
But I think I do think just by moving up
a yard, if that's what it ends up being officially,
that that'll end.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Up scoring a few more recoveries.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
We'll see them all.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Some crazy stuff with onside kick.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
When you look back at the day guys who would
loop over you got ten guys on the side.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
I mean, just all things that you used to be
able to get away with.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
If the outside kick in college, you'd have like a
five yard run up before the guy could kick it.
I'm like, somebody was getting blasted with that. But I
always hated that onside kick for that.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
You should hear they said special teams coaches go figure
this out. NFL down, so special teams coaches get together.
You should hear some of the ideas that come out,
there's oh yeah, man, we're gonna start it five yards.
We're gonna start it five yards on the line of
scrim has been the kick will be behind joe.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
You know.

Speaker 8 (33:30):
Uh in the kickoff return zone every quarter you have
to take a player out of the return area and
get less and less like there.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
There's been some wild ideas.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wow, it's still all about the kick though. You need
a really great high hopper or whatever it is, pace.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
Matching, the timing when your coverage team is down there.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
I don't care what type of kick it is, whether.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
It's the spinning sideliner we called it a chop, whether
it's the you saw it a lot more, which was
the spike.

Speaker 7 (33:57):
You used to see that all the time.

Speaker 8 (33:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that out when you had a
running start, enough time for you to get down and
get a big impact hit on the and the balls
already hit the ground. Yep, exact, and the balls already
hit the ground. That's the thing in college, you tell
him day one, the college kids, the receivers that are
on there's no fair catching on kickoffs.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
If it hits the ground, you cannot fair catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
So all right, coach. Thanks all for joining us. Best
of luck.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
Thank you guys, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I love that man.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Just an absolute beacon of our community. Great to see
in this building. Frank Ross is the best, the boss,
Frank Ross. Okay, we had a chance to talk with
Jalen Petrie earlier this week. We'll finish up with hearing
from the fourth year safety.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's time has flown the fourth year safety Jalen Petrie
on with us our flashback Friday next Texas All Access.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Let's finish up this Flashback Friday in the best way
with our guide Jalen Peatrie. Mark and I have a
chance to catch up with him. If you missed it, well,
here you.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Go in studio with us, jailing Petrie jailing. Great to see.
How's it going.

Speaker 9 (35:03):
It's going well, man back in football. So I'm extremely
excited and it's been fun so far.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
It's been fun indeed to see you guys out there
doing it this time of year. Look, you've been in
meetings and practices and we have a lot to talk
about because you're being honored. We're gonna get to that
in a moment. But tell us this meetings, this time
of year. What are you guys covering this time of
year at these meetings?

Speaker 9 (35:23):
The basics, the fundamentals, everything that you know, everybody sees
when the season's come when the season comes.

Speaker 10 (35:31):
But it's pretty simple.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
We're just learning the basics and making sure that we're
mastering the fundamentals so that when you know, Buzzy gets
a flying, we're doing what we need to do.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
And I'm gonna ask you a question. I know it
probably hurts to talk about, how much did you miss it?

Speaker 10 (35:44):
I missed it a lot, like I was still.

Speaker 9 (35:47):
Around, but it's different when you, you know, you into
mixing your playing. So, like I said, I'm really thankful
and grateful to you know, be back out there with
the guys.

Speaker 7 (35:56):
Just flying around and running around is nothing like it.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
How much much do you put into these OTAs and
the mini camp practices where hey, you can't really hit people,
but you want to play or practice with some intensity.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
How do you handle that? How do you gauge that
out there? Jail?

Speaker 9 (36:12):
Yeah, I think it's it's about taking every rep personal
and making sure that you're getting some out of every
rep because, like I said, these reps are gonna you know,
show up in December and late into the season when
the playoffs comes, so it's important that you do take
them serious. But it's also a fine line there when
you're competing against people with you know, shirts and T
shirts and you're not hitting people. So it's about making

(36:34):
sure that you're keeping your teammates you know, healthy as well,
but also getting good work and making sure y'all flying around.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Jalen did the staff and you find the secret sauce
for you and find your spot that fits you maybe
best at all, playing the nickel spot the way you did.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
I mean, you know, I've talked about this. I watched
you so many times at Baylor, and the.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Closer you were to the line of scrimmage, man, you
made every single play that you can make. You could blitch,
you would sack guys, you would have TFLs. It felt
like you were kind of playing that same way last year.
You feel like you kind of find the secret sauce,
Like that's that's what I do, That's how I play,
and that's where I'm most comfortable.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
Yeah, I love it, but I wouldn't say I found
the freak secret sauce. My coaches found it. You know,
they allowed me to be in that position and to
do the things that you know, I think it's catered
to my you know, playing style. So I'm thankful that
they putting me in put me in that position, and
you know, I don't take it lightly and continue to
you know, go out there and try to make plays
for my teammates.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
What do you make of this dB room jailing?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Because there's some new faces and there's some faces that
have been around that have done some things in this league.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
It looks very strong top to bottom.

Speaker 9 (37:36):
Oh yeah, we got we got a lot of dogs
in a defensive back room like top to bottom, left
to right. You know, everybody has their own different type
of swag, different type of you know, like you said,
sauce or whatever. But everybody makes plays and everybody you know,
gets the job done. So thankful to be in that
room with so many great guys and just be able
to learn from them and just you know, pick their
brains on different things that they see.

Speaker 7 (37:57):
It just hit me. I was sitting there thin during
the math.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
This is going to your fourth year, yep, your season
that you're like one of the older guys.

Speaker 7 (38:05):
I want to say old. You want the older guys
in that room.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You've always had a leadership quality, even going dating back
to your days as a rookie, but you feel like
that's kind of grown these four years now that you
as you go into year number four, like you've seen
some things. You've been there, You've experienced highs, You've also
experienced some things that you had to work through. How
valuable has that been your team? And you kind of
feel that kind of leadership kind of growing in you
in year four.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
I definitely see all of these years, you know, piling up,
and I'm just trying to do my best to you know,
help out anybody that needs it. I know that when
I have questions, I'm asking guys older and younger me,
younger than me about what they think. So, you know,
I just want to be that helping him as well,
just to you know, give my knowledge and my input
if they wanted, and you know, help out as needed.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
All Right, So, Jalen, you are being honored by the
City of Stafford here juneteenth celebration June fifteenth.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
It's going to be amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
You've done so much in the community, and let's start here.
Last year, I know, the injury was terrible, but off
the field, you get nominated for Walter Payton Man of
the Year. You are, this franchise is nominated. What does
that mean to you?

Speaker 10 (39:06):
It meant the world to me.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
You know, you know, I take my job seriously on
the field, but I also take my job serious off
the field. So to be honored with a what a
what a prestigious award like that, and to be nominated
for that, it was it was crazy, Like it was
low key a couple of tiers Like I'm like, I'm
honored for this, Like the work that I do. People actually,
you know see that. So you know, I'm thankful and

(39:28):
I understand that it does bring more likes, so it's
gonna be more work that needs to be done. So,
like I said, I was thankful but also encouraged that
you know, it's a lot more that needs to be
done in the city.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
We know that you would be doing what you're doing
off the field and on the field no matter where
you were. But the fact that it's here, that it's Houston,
that is Stafford, that it's your home for sure, does
it mean that much.

Speaker 9 (39:53):
More to you that way? It definitely does. You know,
like you said, this is my crib. This is my home,
and you have to take care of your crib, you know,
like when we go home home at night, we want
to make sure our crib is nice and everything is
taken care of.

Speaker 10 (40:03):
So, you know, I see this the same way.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
You know.

Speaker 9 (40:06):
I want to make sure that the kids that's coming
behind me have the means to everything to you know,
reach their goals and reach their full potential. So that's
all I want to do. And it's a lot of
people that helped me. Shout out to them and yeah,
we're going to keep this thing moving and continue to
improve on it.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
P Tree Boys boys with a Z and it's Ptree
Boys dot com and I've got the website up right here.
It's very simple donate or request funds. You do so
much for so many people, and you make it very
simple as well. Tell us about Petree Boys a little
bit more.

Speaker 10 (40:34):
Yes, that's all we try to do, make it simple.

Speaker 9 (40:37):
Like I said, it's a lot of kids in the
Houston community as a whole. We work a lot with Stafford,
but we also help with the Houston community as a
whole with different basketball tournaments. We just sent some soccer
balls to Africa with our church, Like, we do a
lot of different things. So if you want to donate
and help out and send funds to kids and needs,

(40:58):
that's what we help with. And also, you know, we
have camps. If you want to come out and donate
your time, you know you can do that. So time
and money is huge. And if you don't want to
do any of that, a prayer helps. So those three
are the ways that you know, we try to give
back and help people in need. And and yeah, we're
going to continue to do that and continue to get
better at it.

Speaker 7 (41:17):
For sure. You just finished one of your camps.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
What's that like when you get that camp done you
see a kid walk up to you and hug you,
and Coach Petrie thank you.

Speaker 7 (41:26):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
What's that like when you have that that feeling when
you're around kids and they're thanking you for having you know,
one heck of a camp.

Speaker 10 (41:31):
Yeah, there's nothing like it.

Speaker 9 (41:32):
And it's like a full circle moment because you know,
I played on that field my whole life.

Speaker 10 (41:37):
I grew up in this community.

Speaker 9 (41:38):
So to see kids coming up looking like me playing
the same sport that I played, it's like, oh, that's
me in a sense, you know. So I'm just trying
to help them out as much as I can, like
I said, and inspire them, even if it's not football,
whatever they want to do, I want to let them
know that they can do it and inspire them to,
you know, continue to push harder and understand that it's

(41:58):
not going to be easy, like just having those conversations
with them. And yeah, that's what it was like this
last week, and it was really fun to have that
camp school.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
For kids who are great athletes and their parents listening
right now, watching right now, jail, And what's important for
high school kids to keep in mind?

Speaker 4 (42:16):
We're in this NIL era. It's very different.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
We've talked about this a bit before with college athletics
and there's money out there, but you want the best
for your future, the best education as well. What's important
for young kids and their parents to remember is they
navigate their way through their high school careers.

Speaker 7 (42:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (42:32):
That's a great question, and like you said, I'm a
little bit removed from that because I didn't have to
experience the whole NIL thing. But I think the theme
that comes to my head when you said that is
just never getting comfortable where you at.

Speaker 10 (42:46):
Yes, you might be getting a lot of money going.

Speaker 9 (42:48):
Into college, but you haven't did anything in college, So
approaching that with a humble mindset of saying, I need
to establish myself, I need to continue to learn.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
And then when you.

Speaker 9 (42:57):
Get to that top spot in college, like, it's the
next step in that too, like how can I help
my teammates get better? How can I, you know, inspire
my teammates to also have that mindset that I'm the best, Like,
so everybody is uplifted.

Speaker 10 (43:11):
And then it's the next step going into college.

Speaker 9 (43:12):
But wherever you add just I think it's about not
getting too comfortable and not getting too fully yourself, because
God has a way of humbling us and bringing us
back to that middle ground where I think we all
should be to thrive in whatever we're doing.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
I think it's interesting to hear you talk about that
because you and I have talked about this a little bit.
I get text from my buddies and went to Baylor
all the time, and they always remind me the last
text say hey, what are you doing your golf or whatever?
And hey, by the way, you know Jalen Petries, you know,
one of our favorites of all time, and I often
ask him you know why is that? Like man, when
things were going sideways, he stayed. And as Mark's asking

(43:48):
that question, the first thing that popped.

Speaker 7 (43:50):
My head was adversity.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
You had adversity there Baylor, whether it was not playing
early on, not successful, you had players leaving, but you stayed,
You went through it.

Speaker 7 (43:59):
How big?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
And you think that is for guys that come into
this locker room that you can share with them, like, Hey,
even though things might get tough early on, we stick together,
we get across this adversity, we might get to where
we want to go.

Speaker 7 (44:09):
How big is that lesson?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I know you don't walk around the locker room sharing
that lesson, but when it comes up, I'm sure it's
one that I think.

Speaker 7 (44:15):
Probably a lot of players would need to hear.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
And I think, like you said, a lot of players,
for the most part understand that because in sports there's
a lot of adversity. It's a lot of injuries, it's
a lot of different things, different avenues that they can
see adversity. As I think it's like you said, just
about reminding people like we might be going through a
hard time right now, but when we come out of it,
just imagine how much stronger Are we going to be
mentally and physically if it's an injury, if it's a

(44:39):
little bit of a setback, you know what I'm saying.
So just reminders here and there and just having that
open mindset in the locker room, you know, Linda helping hand. Hey, bro,
you're going through this right now, but I promise you
when you come out of it, you're gonna know how
to do this ten times better, ten times faster, and
that's going to help us as a team, help you
as a.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
Person in the long run.

Speaker 9 (44:59):
So I think it's just about reminding each other because
we've all been through similar things.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
A couple more quick ones from me, Jaeling receivers. You're
seeing a lot of them, of course, so tell us
about them a little bit. Because we've got some new
faces and some guys who have been around. It's kind
of like the TV has got some new faces, some
guys who have been around, but obviously led by Nico,
who's tremendous, got the rookies out there, Kirk joins the team.
A lot of different looks out there you're getting.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
From these receivers.

Speaker 9 (45:26):
Oh yeah, a lot of different I would like to
say flavors, a lot of different styles, a lot of
different builds. But you know, it's a competitive group. They
show up everyday rate to work and it's always exciting
to go against them. You can't show up, you know,
sleepy or like half away, because they go embarrass you.
And yeah, nobody wants that out there, especially you know

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with the trash talking and stuff that we do in practice.
So yeah, it's it's a pretty lig group in a
talented group overall for sure.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Okay, I got to ask you about Monday night.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I don't know that we've had a chance to talk
about this, being from Houston playing at Dallas on Monday night.

Speaker 7 (46:06):
And then you make that play.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
First of all, you're disappointed that you didn't pick up
the ball and Derek did. Secondly, take us through that
play and what did you see and how'd you make
it happen?

Speaker 7 (46:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (46:16):
I was just basically playing my technique and dB made
a great play stripsack and the lineman picked up the
ball and I'm like, oh, I gotta go tackle him.
And then when I tackled him, I was like, oh,
the ball close. So I tried to punch it out
and then you know, dB was right there again, so
God blessed him again with the scooping scorer. So yeah,

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big shout outs to dB though, because that I wouldn't
have got my strip if he didn't get his first trip,
so big shout out of him, And yeah, that's basically
what happened. But it was definitely a big moment because
I don't think I've ever hit a lineman like.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
That ever in my life, like with the ball and
hit people before like that, just maybe not alignment with
the ball in his hands. Like the fact that it
was Dallas and obviously you played for Hugh, you're from Houston,
did it matter that much more?

Speaker 9 (47:02):
It definitely adds a little bit to it knowing that,
you know, I'm from Houston and I got some you know,
Dallas friends and some people even in the Houston community
that love Dallas so much. But y'all know how we
rocking on this side. So yeah, it definitely made it
a little bit more special.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
One more.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
When people ask you what's this offense gonna look like?
Nick Kelly, the new offensive coordinator, what can you tell
us about what the offense might look like?

Speaker 9 (47:25):
I would say fast and explosive, you know, That's what
I've seen so far. They're being you know, on it
in terms of everything that they're doing, so you know,
I'm excited. You know, they have a lot of playmakers
like I mentioned, and a definitely a great quarterback.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
So I'm excited about what the future hosts for them.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Very cool, Jail, and congratulations on being honored by Stafford
for Juneteenth on June fifteenth. Looking forward to that. Thanks
a lot for joining us.

Speaker 10 (47:48):
Yeah, appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Man, We appreciate that, dude, Jalen Peetree and of course
special teams coordinator Frank Ross coach rosscuts dot Com and
former Texans tackle legend Chris Clark big flashback Friday.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Appreciate you guys for being with me. We'll see you
on Monday.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
We're gonna have plenty for you on Monday. I can't wait.
See you then, everybody, and as always, go text