June 9, 2025 • 47 mins
The Texans Radio Crew shared their insight on running back Nick Chubb signing with Houston, and linebacker Jake Hansen also joined the show to talk about OTA's, minicamp...and his wedding.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
TEP. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy Monday out there to everybody. It's happy media Days
to everybody inside the building. John Harrismart vandam here with you,
and we have had one long, exhausting day and yet
one of the most fruitful and fun days we have
had in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Mark, how you doing. I feel I'm doing great, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel like you know, we're on vapors a little
bit at this point of the day because we interviewed.
I haven't counted it. I think it's forty guys. It's
thirty eight or forty players today. This is a record,
and I know one right after the other media members listening.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is not Media Day for everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, I think if I'm a media member, I hear
there were media days or Media Day today, people.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Are gonna say what what I wasn't invited? But it's internal.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This is the day that the Texans take all the
videos of the guys on the video board, like come on, stand.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Up, good headshots for CBS, Yeah, network, all the networks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we tend to talk to a bunch of guys.
It's like they're waiting to do other things. And many
years ago we decided this would be good to interview
some players that should give them something to do while
they're waiting to do that, and a lot of the
guys that maybe don't get the airtime. So you're gonna
be hearing these interviews from now until training camp. Basically
(01:17):
that we were able to get done today and we
did research. And the other thing it does, Johnny, is
it enables us to just spend time and meet some
of these guys, especially some of the new players. You know,
I met meeting Jake Andrews today center. Yeah, getting to
know him. That's just one example. Players like that. And
then some old friends, old faces, old faces, young faces,
but uh, people we've known a while here in the building.
(01:40):
Really great to visit with them and see what they're
up to. How about Tremont Smith Seeing Trey again? Oh
that was cool.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I was just so cool, Like he was so excited
to be back in here, you know, fully fought of Cassi.
We had a great time talking to Foley and Mario Edwards.
Mario Edwards, I mean the guys we talked to. Okay,
so there was one theme that stood out to me
mostly and one of the groups of players that we
talked to, I want to get your thought, okay, because
(02:07):
I feel like I heard something over and over again
as we talked to the offensive line. Yeah, one theme.
Do you know what it is? Well, I thought competition.
Competition was definitely that was definitely part of and physical condition. Yeah,
there you go, ding ding, ding ding ding. I don't
have the ding, but give Mark a ding because that.
(02:28):
I don't know how many offensive line when we talked to today,
I mean ten, I mean, just off the top of
my head, Jalen Thomas, Jarrett Patterson, those two, Jake Andrews,
I mean Jack Thomas, Ladarius Henderson, Darius Henderson, Lake and
Thomlinson was that was a fun one. Lake and Thomlinson
(02:51):
was a fun one, I'm telling you. When we asked
kind of a common thread question kind of amongst those guys,
just you know, I'll give us a thought on the
office line, almost every single guy was like, we're gonna
be in shape yep. And that stood out to me like, huh, okay,
which you don't really think. You know, Oh, you know,
(03:13):
we're gonna be good at gap blocking. You know, we're
gonna be good down blocks, We're gonna be good in
pass protection. You know, we're gonna be physical either hand,
but no, it was we're gonna be in shape.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, one of the conversations and you'll be hearing this
one soon enough with Zach Thomas produced this thought, and look,
this is an obvious thing, but maybe it doesn't get
brought up enough. The old lineman, five guys out there
the whole time. The D line, it's hockey line to change, right,
they change bodies all the time. And I know that
one requires something different than the other because the old line,
(03:45):
it's the old they know where they're going. The D line,
they're not sure where the ball is going, which way
it's headed, and they're trying to wreck something. The old
Lion's trying to execute a play that was called. I
know they execute calls on defense. But the point is
got to be in great shape to perform at the
highest level in this league. And not that they weren't
in great shape before, but they want to be in
(04:05):
the best shape possible than they were.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
The fact that they almost to a man, all pointed
it out made me think that that was a focal
point amongst discussion with the offensive line going forward, like
you're gonna you're gonna be in the right shape, You're
gonna be both aerobic and anaerobic. You're gonna be in shape,
(04:31):
and you Zach put it. When I heard Zach say,
was like, well, yeah, that makes sense. You know you're
going against waves of defensive linemen at a time, but
you I just got the feeling that in talking with
these offensive linemen that the cardio the conditioning had to
be at a higher level, and I thought that was
(04:53):
that was telling. I thought another couple of things, especially
when we talked to Lake and Tomlinson. I say this
to you a when we have new players that come
through here and we get to interview him for the
first time or whatever the case might be, I'll look
at you and go, oh, I don't get this one.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Most of the time, I say to you, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Look, I get why they went out and got that guy.
I get why they went out and resigned Trey Montsmith.
I totally get why they signed Lake and Tomlinson.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You just listen to him speak, and you listen to
how he describes the way he goes about his business
and how he interacted with us, and I'm like, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
This guy's been in the league ten years.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like it makes total, complete and total sense that they
would want to go on the offensive line that thinks
and talks and acts like he does.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think that it also speaks to this comparison. Sometimes
in baseball you say, oh, that guy's a professional hitter.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's a professional hitter.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I felt like we're talking to a professional guard.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's what Laken Tomlinson is. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know you're going to get a certain level of
performance out of him that you can rely on.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I believe that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Look, I cannot automatically say that he's the man that
they're going to have in there for the next five
ten years. I can't say that necessarily, but you can
rely on him. You can go to battle with Lake
and Tomlinson and feel good. Now, they also have other
players who could step in and beat them out. You
never know, right, and I hate to word it like that,
(06:32):
but you have opportunities here for young individuals to make
some noise at those guard spots, at all spots in
the offensive line. And that's how they set this thing
up with lots of competition. And when you look at
wide receiver you see that too. Really all position groups
they have talked about it. They want competition. Well, they're
living it. Let's get some competition and hear all these
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position groups. We want to get to another level. And
that's how you do it, because we talk to a
bunch of a linemen today and you could write a story,
a projected story on a number of different players rising
up to a level that we've never seen before from
their particular game and they reached that and they find
a way to get into the game that by the
way to get into the lineup.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I mean talking to Jared Patterson. I remember back when
you know Jared's six round pick. I don't know her
name yet. He's starting in Game one against the Baltimore Ravens,
and you'll hear that conversation and he talked about what
that was like, and he said, being drafted in six
round I almost did him a favor because he's like, Yo,
what expectations are on me?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Are the ones I set for myself.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But one other thing he said, and I think sometimes
this kind of gets lost in the wash a little bit.
I said, what what kind of do you have plan
going into the to the off season? And then what
are you excited about the offseason and getting ready for
training camp, and he said, well, this really is the
first time that I'm not rehabbing something.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's huge and huge. I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I was like, man, and he kind of rewound back.
Like the last four years, he's like his last couple
of years in Notre Name, he was dealing with something,
you know, in the training camp in twenty twenty three
he had tweaked his hamstring, and then in last year
he was coming back from his writ you know, the
injury he had that ended his rookie season against Carolina.
So it's like, Man, instead of rehabbing, you get to
(08:19):
start stacking days and start putting together what it is
that you want to be as an offensive lineman. So
we got some great stuff on the offensive line. We
got great stuff and everybody, I'll tell you one of
my favorite discussions because it was very it was very
football ly and I know when a certain section of
our listeners here's this, They're gonna be like, no, no, no, no,
(08:40):
no no. When you talk about Braxton Barrios, you have
talked about Alex Earl. We talked to Braxton Barrios and
we did ask about Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We felt like we had way and he understood. But
we talked football.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He talked football the way, you know, just he describing
running routes and seeing coverages and what coverages he was
seeing and.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
What that man I was, I was.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I had a blast talking to Braxton Barrios just because
we were talking you know, in depth ball, which I
thought was really really fun. On top of you know,
just you know where he's from and how he got
here and all that kind of stuff, but just talking
ball about playing slot receiver, returning punts, those kind of things.
I mean, it was it was really fun talking to
him about that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
We could have talked to him for forty five minutes
about alex Earl and social media and stuff. We wanted
to talk ball. This is our first meeting with him. Yeah,
didn't want it to be all about her, right. In
doing research for today's interviews, I did peruse a few
alex Earl and Marios videos, right, And you know, in
doing this you're gonna see some Alex Earl, you know,
(09:43):
doing stuff by herself videos.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I did want to ask.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Him a lot of this, but I mean, I got
she's got like millions, yeah, I mean, she's millions of followers.
Somebody told me, and I didn't check all the views
on each video, but the one that he's in do
really well. They do a lot better than some of
the ones where she's going over different products that she
uses or clothing, clothing lines or whatever. So that says
(10:10):
something about the chemistry they have and people want to
see them together.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But look, this is a football show.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I know we do lifestyle stuff, of course, but our
first meeting with Braxton, we wanted to be football, but
we did ask him some things about her and I
just thought there were so many great conversations Johnny, and
one thing that came up also, oh, by the way,
back to the old line for a moment. It's funny
with a lot of these competition situations that you have
on the football team, when we're talking to Patterson, I'm like, oh,
(10:37):
he's the starting center on this football team. We talked
to Jake Andrews, and I'm thinking he's the starting center
of this football team because the command that Andrews has,
the smarts, the confidence, and I know it's not like
you're talking to Dwight Stevenson over here, or you know,
you're not talking to a ten year veteran who's done it.
But you feel like he could probably do the job.
(10:58):
But you know Patterson can do the job, and you've
won big games with Jared Patterson, so why not him. Now,
we didn't talk to Jews today. We didn't talk to
a number of people. We didn't talk to Cam Robertson.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We had to light out the door at one point.
And we like to spend at least five, six, seven
minutes at least with these guys, and we want to
keep it under ten because again there's a line and
somebody's got all of them. We could spend more time
with some of them.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Were thinking you could spend three hours with this guy,
Yakub Johnson from Germany.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yakab Johnson was fantastic, fantastic. We just we didn't even
scratch the surface in talking with the Yakam Johnson and
it was it was great, it was great, It was phenomenal.
And just how did he get to the NFL? Yep,
it's really fascinating wild how he.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Got to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'll tell you this though, I'll say this, I've told
him this to his face.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I've told anybody that I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That I've talked to over the years, one of my
five favorite Texans that have ever walked into this building
is Daria Gumbwale. Yeah, I just unlike he's I love
that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He's good on the mic, He's very thoughtful with his answers.
He obviously plays football very well. You pointed out early
in the interview about how many clutch plays he's made
the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And I didn't even go over the field goal against
the Bucks. I was just talking about last year, last year,
and then I'm sure that Danny Barrett, if he were here,
he would tell you, well, look at these past pro
plays where a would be sacker was about to derail
the entire operation, but Dari picked him up right and
maybe not getting the credit, but that's just the way
(12:51):
football is. It's eleven on eleven. A lot of guys
have to make plays for them to be successful, plays
within the play, and he does all that too. And
as you talked to and I wrote about this on
Houston Texans dot com, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna
be tough for a Woody Marks to replaced Daria good Balwally.
If that's in his plans, it's gonna be really difficult.
He is a seasoned pro, knows what he's doing. Year
(13:14):
nine for him or something like that. Year nine, yeah, amazing,
and started here in seventeen. Don't be surprised if we're
not talking to him next year year ten. One of
the things that he brought up, I thought was, I
gotta ask this question. I asked his question many years
ago about Kevin Johnson. Texans drafted Kevin Johnson, a corner
out of Wake Forest in twenty fifteen. Kevin had a
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really solid twenty fifteen, was off to a bang up
start in twenty sixteen, and he broke his foot against
the Indianapolis Colts on the Sunday night win and he
didn't play again at twenty sixteen, and Kevin never really
got his confidence back. And so I asked Daria the question,
what would nine year veteran Daria Gumbwalle tell rookie Darya Gumbwalle,
(14:02):
And I asked that question that a lot of the guys,
you know, what would be that piece of advice you'd
give your you know, like you'd go back and tell
you your rookie self question, you know what what advice
would you give? And Dari thought about you know, it's
a really good question. He goes, you know that I'm
good enough, And I asked him, I said, followed that
up with after he gave a great thoftl answer, I said,
(14:24):
how often have you seen guys lose a job or
get you know, taken off a roster or whatever the
case might be, just because they've lost confidence but not
lost talent?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He goes man way more than you know. And that's
what made me think about Kevin Johnson, because I felt
like Kevin's lost confidence after, you know, coming back from
the foot injury.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He just never got his confidence back.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And I think that was one of the things that
that really kind of held him back. And I just
hear it from Darry don't forget how good you are.
I knew how good I was, and just hearing him
talk through that, and then the guys he learned from. Obviously,
one of the guys he learned from was in Tampa,
guy named Quiz Rogers who played the Mark Consolidated, whose
uncle is a good friend of mine. And so I've
(15:03):
known Quiz for for a long time. And Quiz doesn't
say whole lot, just did his job, did the best
of his ability.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Was a great pass protector.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He said, that's where Darry sort of learned how to
pass protect and followed quiz and watch quiz.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He watched Carlos Hyde when he's in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And so it was just really interesting the introspection you
got from Dara, and when you think about him getting
here in twenty one and you have these years in
twenty one, twenty two, they're you're tough, but you make
it through and you get to twenty three and twenty
four and you're such a part of some great wins,
make some clutch plays. The Jacksonville game in Week four,
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I mean the Buffalo game that like just little reception
right before Kaimi's game winning kick, the fake pun against Miami.
You can go through and remember all these plays about
Dara and the impact he's made with them, and you
realize that's why he's still here and for many years.
I mean, the fans something that, oh, that guy would
replaced Daria. Now what he's going to replace Dari?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And it's like, man, I don't know about that, don't
want that to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Look at Dary's path. That didn't happen for him right away,
and he has a role. He plays it well. Now
along these lines, and by the way, as we're talking
about all these interviews we did, you're gonna be hearing
them that we're going to unroll them, roll them out
over the coming weeks. This is kind of like one
of those coming up this season. Whatever the show is, right,
they give it a prequel, the little preview.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Show of the entire season and scenes to come.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Damian Pierce had a chance to sit down with him
as well, and you know he really wants to fire
out of the gate here.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Obviously it's year four for him.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
This is a contract year if you will do something big,
and we know that he knows that. Look, there's always
people trying to take your spot, you know what he
Mark's coming in here, hey, and not that he's going
to take a spot, but you know, the more running
backs you have in the room, the more at any
position group, the less opportunity you have, right right, So
(17:04):
you have to rise up, Like I said, competition. Nick
Chubb reportedly comes in. Those reports started coming out what
yesterday over the weekend. Yeah, and then today Rappaport says
it's done, or Dina Rassini, I should say that he
passed the physical because they haven't announced anything yet, but
that would be really interesting. You get that added to
the equation. We all know mixing hasn't participated in OTAs
(17:28):
and we'll see about mini camp with Damien and such.
But this is gonna be, I think, a really good
thing for this football team. Add another potentially great player.
He is a great player, but can he be great
again coming off back to back injury riddled seasons. Four
time Pro Bowler, total stud your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, Building off of what we were talking about the
running as, we talked with every running back I think today.
I think we talked with every running back today other
than Joe. And obviously, you know, Joe's coming back from something.
I think it's been reported. You know, he came back
from something at the ankle from the offseason. I mean
out of the ankle was bothering him the last half
(18:09):
of the year and he still played through it. I mean,
Joe's a warrior. But I saw the news yesterday and
I thought, oh okay, and immediately, you know, your mind
goes to you know, Nick Chubb at his best, and
you're like, whoa. You realize, Okay, he's coming off I
gotta I gotta make sure. I don't like overseell this.
(18:32):
But in my mind, he's coming off a couple of
years injuries. It was a pretty catastrophic knee injury that
he had in twenty twenty three. He came back and
he had a foot injury last year. He's not the
Nick Chubb that we remember from the glory days of
the Browns where he's pounded out fifteen hundred yard years
where it felt like every other year. He's not the
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not the Nick Chubb I saw in the wild Weather
of twenty twenty, the COVID year where he went out
of bounds the five yard line and he just destroyed
us in that game. We can't tackle him. That's he
were five years removed from that. However, I don't think
he has to be that guy. I think he just
has to be. And I know a lot of people
(19:13):
have mentioned this, and you maybe alluded to this as
Cam Akers from last year. You know, Cam was coming
off a season where he had torn his achilles again.
It was the second time he had done that. Everybody thought,
what's this guy got left? Well, you take a one
year flyer on him and you realize you get him
in a camp and you're like, holy God, he's got
something left. Yeah, you end up turning out around for
(19:34):
some draft capital. So you know, camp can go back
to Minnesota and have an opportunity with the Vikings at
that point, because we were kind of you know, jammed
up with Joe with Damien, it was hard to get
reps for everybody there at running back. I think with
Chubb coming in, I think in a lot of ways
to look at it. Number one, how healthy, How healthy
(19:55):
is Joe? What what's the status? What's the prognosis for Joe?
My gut tell me that Joe isn't gonna miss anything.
He has been durables. I'll get out and outside of
the five games he missed last year with Dankele, before that,
it was seven, sixteen, seventeen.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Games a year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you just just never know. And when you you know,
when a guy is not at OTAs or you don't
see him or he's not in mini camp and you
know he's coming back from something, Hey, you wonder, Okay,
we think he's going to be back. We hope he's
going to be back, but you know, just in case,
And so I feel like Nick Chubb ends up being
(20:33):
maybe insurance for any and all of it. Best case,
he ends up being just another iron that goes in
the fire that you can go to and give seven
to eight carries the game when you need it, and
power the football and run the football and just take
heat off everybody else. So if it is Nick Chubb
and it is official, I'm only pretty excited about it,
(20:54):
I think partially just because it's Nick Chubb and I
think a lot of people remember him as Nick Chubb.
I hope they're not disappointed when they see that, Yeah,
this is a guy that's been impacted by injuries, but
he still can offer something to this offense in the
run game that I love.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And if it ends up being insurance.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great, It's one year, it's probably not a massive contract.
Apparently it's an incentive laden contract, which is probably the
right way to have done it. But I'm pumped about it,
to be honest, I think there's some good football still
left in him, and I hope that he can provide
it for this team.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, I just think it adds to the pile, right yep.
And it's pretty good looking right now. You get mixing
back healthy and who knows what the situation is. But
I pointed out previously, you don't play a game for
three months. In three months, you play your first meaningful
football game almost exactly right. So three months you're good
to go with Joe, I would hope, but if not,
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maybe Chubb Damian Pierce. Like we said, Damien wants to
play really well this year. And the last time we
saw him carrying the rock was against Tennessee and he
was awesome and this was an outstanding run defense and
I know, last game of the season, but they were
trying to get that one, and then you look at
whatever else could happen wild card wise at this position.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Juwar Jordan, we talked to him today. You mentioned it. Yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
We did talk to just about every running back except Joe.
I don't know JJ Taylor can still do some things
for this football team. We mentioned dare so add to
the mix like they do with other position groups. I
don't know how it's all going to play out. Like
last year, I didn't know how Acres would play out.
But Acres in camp looked like the best back on
the field for the Houston Texans for a while, and
(22:38):
then you said it, you end up getting draft camp
for him, and at one point you felt like maybe
we shouldn't have given up cam Akers because they got
thin and running back with injuries.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So no, I like it. Pick him up.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's not going to kill you financially, and the upside
is very high.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's very high. Johnny.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You could imagine everybody healthy and Shub back to his
old form, potentially at least for a while. What if
it's for a playoff run. He's like a hot goalie
in the NHL and you're riding Nick Chubb. What if
he's John Riggins after he's done with the Jets, etc.
And ends up with Washington and goes on that run. Look,
that's best case. That's the best case scenario with other
(23:17):
things happening where Joe can't play or whatever. And I
don't want to say that's any kind of good scenario,
but anyway, the point is this.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's a great insurance policy, right, it really is. It's
worth it. I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
One of the things that Shawn Seth were talking about
this this morning, and one of the things that probably
hit me maybe more than anything else, was that Browns
fans didn't want to lose Nick Chubb, not Nick Chubb,
running back, not star running back, not fantasy football legend.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
They didn't want to lose Nick Chubb, the player, the person,
the guy.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And when I think about that, I'm like, ooh, you
add another swarmy veteran to the mix that has seen
some things, that has been there, that has been through
the rough times, that has gone through injuries and rebounded.
That's the kind of guy that you want.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't from what I remember, Nick doesn't say a
whole heck of a lot. But when you have Browns
fans just mad they're losing that guy, I'm like, let's
go the swarmier the better.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You got an AFC North reunion in the running back
room with Joe Mixon and Nick Chubb, exactly, all we
need is Najie Harris here and JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Let's go baby, JK Dobbins, you know, yeah, yeah, Because
there was a lot of talk about JK Dobbins, Yeah
in the Texans And so I remember seeing that back
a month or so ago.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I just saw it kind of thrown out there and
it really didn't have any kind of legs to it. It
didn't seem but I thought, yeah, that wouldn't be a
bad move. You know, same kind of thing guy's been.
He's deubled injuries, had I thought a solid bounce back year.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Were the Chargers year. We saw him in a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think he got much blocking and he's running
against our defense and so there wasn't a whole lot
there for him.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But I thought, yeah, JK.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Dobbins, And then I remember thinking, wait, Nick Chubb is
still not signed right, Well, I think either one of
those would end up being a good fit in our
running back room, because I don't think that especially Chubb
not a diva.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Just come in, put his head down.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Go to work, be a nice solid veteran addition, and
that affords you a lot of different things. I mean, look,
Joe doesn't have to be back for the first day
of training camp. He doesn't have to be back for
the first day of training camp. He can come along
at his pace and be one hundred percent healthy to
dive into the season once he's ready to go. Look,
I hope he's ready to go day one, but that
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may not be the case. So now you've got insurance
to see what you've got with Chubb see where Damian
Pierce is. Get your rookies and your young guys involved
along with Dara and see what this running back room
could be. I just think it's more positive than it
is anything else. Now, speaking of the AFC North, one
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other one that you have not had a chance to
comment on. Actually I did a comment on it a
little bit the other day, but I didn't want to
spend a whole lot of time with it. The Pittsburgh
Steelers have a new quarterback, and it's a guy that's
been rumored. It felt like he'd already been there, but
they made it official going into mini camp Aaron Rodgers
one year about thirteen million dollars, Maybe the opportunity to
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get a little bit more your thoughts for Rogers, the Steelers,
the AFC North. Are they a bigger threat now with
Rogers than they were without?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
We won't know it until we see it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But the vibe I get is, Okay, it'll be better
than it was going to be with say Will Howard, Yeah,
Mason Rudolph. Of course, you know it's going to be
better than that. But how much better? How much better
will it be? We don't know what Rogers is going
to do. After missing the entire offseason basically, and I
know Rogers doesn't need OTAs, what come on, it has
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to have some sort of effect. Now, maybe you save
on the wear and tear there, but let's just move
it forward into the season. I don't think it puts
the Steelers, and look, maybe it does, but I don't
think it puts the Steelers in any kind.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Of AFC contender situation.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
It does make them stronger, and what I like about
it is it makes them more able to put dents
in the Baltimore Ravens in whatever the Cincinnati Bengals are
able to produce. It does help them be more competitive
in that division against them.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We do not play the Steelers this year, that's right. Good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Who's their AFC South the ponent, Johnny, It's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Be were they were second? Right, you were second?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, Ravens won Steelers two, Bengals three, Browns four.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they'll play the.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Colts Colts, yeah, good, make them stronger against the Colts.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And speaking of the Colts.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
To the Colts, your guy Anthony Richardson shoulder situation.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right again, I think that I would rather have Anthony
Richardson available from a Texans perspective, because I want those
two quarterbacks to, you know, make the coach's head spin
around and wonder what to do. And Richardson made one
of those amazing plays and look at the upside and
oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Now that they know they have certainty that it's Daniel
Jones at least for most of the season. Yeah, and
if he's going good, there's no way they're going to
take him out Now that they know this, doesn't it
help them to have that certainty? Now you could also argue, well,
they have nowhere else to go, you know, Sam Ellinger,
I don't think it's gonna happen. So you could argue
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the upside is not really that high. How high is
the ceiling with Daniel Jones. I venture to say the
ceiling's reasonably high, because with healthy Jonathan Taylor running the ball,
you can imagine a do of Barkley against Minnesota and
the playoffs in twenty twenty three, No, twenty twenty two.
Rather yeah, and I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but look,
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if Taylor's running the ball really well, in Jones is
somehow not turning the ball over somehow that could be
really special for them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Does it hurt them more? Does it?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I guess I'm asking the question, does it help them
more than it hurts them? Because they're certainty now at
the quarterback position. Certainly as far as who you're gonna
start week one, okay, not oh my gosh, we got
our guy for the next ten years, because it's certainly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Not the case there now. I wish you were playing
a Colts a week one.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'd rather see Daniel Jones in Week one than I
would after a few weeks of getting his feet underneath him.
And it's I don't really know how to say this,
but I feel like the Colts can be better with
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But Richardson at quarterback scares me way, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Sure, because he can make two plays in one game
that'll kill you and keep them in a ball.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Exactly they should have been in that game.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And he throws that thing fading away off his back foot.
I got to thinking about this. Have you bright way
of saying this? Anthony Richardson, God bless him. Was never
good in high school, was really never good at Florida,
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and has not been good in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It's all spec, it's all ceiling, it's all potential.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, it was all based on potential, and it was
like he never reached any of that potential at any
three levels of football.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's like buying stock in an app that is not
yet fully developed, but it could do this. It could,
you know, be able to hologram you over to I
don't know whatever kind of metaphor high tech wise you
want to produce. Yeah, there was never any physical evidence
that he could do it over a long period of time,
and there.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
At any level like usually, I mean they're in some
bust in the NFL. Mike Ryan Leaf is one is
thought to be one of the great NFL bus. Ryan
Leaf was a really freaking good college quarterback. There's a
reason why I was drafted, really really good.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Richison was drafted number four just on pure speculators spec.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, pure spec. So it's unbelievable. This could take down
the entire Cults operation. By the way, because now you
have it's not CGI, it's c IG right in charge.
She's in charge.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
And look they're gonna have to take everybody out if
this doesn't work right this, I would.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Think, so, I would think, so we'll see what ends up?
What was happening all right?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Anthony Richardson from Florida. Jake Hanson also from Florida. He
had a big, big weekend, but he's back for Mini Camp.
What happened this weekend and why is he excited about
Mini Camp. We'll talk to Jake Hanson next right here
in Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Welcome back this.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Monday issue of Texans All Access from London, Texans A
Radio studio, John Harrison, Mark vander Meer here also with us,
Jake Hanson.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
We had a blast catching up with Jake.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
He got married this weekend and got back from Mini Caamp.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
How about that? Take a listen me Mark and.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Jake newly married Jake Hanson and guess what this is
your honeymoon. You just got married and I'm sure this
is what you had in mind to spend your honeymoon
with us because it was this weekend, right, Jake?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
It was It was Saturday Texans Radio for honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, okay, So I want to know how this went over,
Like your your wedding planning A how much were you
involved in wedding planning? And B why now coming back
from Mini Caamp? Why did you wait another week and
then just go straight from honeymoon there too complex the
situation or just get out unfolded.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
So one I wish we could have done it like that.
That was I mean, that would have been ideal. But
the booking venues and everything in downtown Chicago, everyone wants
to get married in the summer. Yeah, so you have
to have the church line up in the hotel and
the event space lined up. And not everyone does the church,
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but we we did it. We wanted to have a
church involved, and uh yeah, so it's hard to get
everything lined up on the exact date and everything's booked
a year out a year plus now with all the
summertime weddings in Chicago. So that was this is a opportunity.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
And I knew that.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Usually Monday's media day, so I you know, we have
a few extra days to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, this is a is this a tough day? This
is kind of a chill day media day.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, it's not not a super not physically taxing. So
after your stay up late, you know, you get tired.
So it's a it's a really fun weekend.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, well we buried the lead.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Congratulations, Well thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
First you know we were you know, congratulations tell us.
I mean, how long you guys been going on? How
long you guys known each other? Is she from here?
Is she from back home? Where's she from?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So she's from the North suburbs Chicago, Lake Forest. We
met at the University of Illinois, Okay, and we've been
dating for about four and a half years. Yeah, so
just just under five years we've known each other. And yeah,
we got engaged about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And yeah, no married, right, So just a couple of
other things.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
On the wedding, everything goes smoothly, No wild crazy stories,
you know, Uncle fly pets running down the aisle or
anything like that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Nothing, nothing too crazy. Everything really went.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
There's a I mean, I think everyone realized on their
wedding day is a small couple of things that don't
go exactly how you wanted to go. But I mean
we had a blast after after I said I do,
it was a blur and we just had so much
fun and get to see so many people we love
and care about.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
So it was it was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So with next week, you guys, well this week being
mini camp, you guys are out of here.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What are the honeymoon plants. What are you guys planning doing.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
We're going to Cabo for three days.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
So we've done a lot of travel this offseason, so
we didn't want to do like some like ten day yeah,
European tour.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Like we just let's go to me.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Let's go somewhere tropical, sit on the beach for three
days and enjoy being. Ota is done and our wedding, Uh,
all the wedding planning is over, so it'd be great.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Great idea. All right, so let's talk some ball here.
Every year is different. He got some new faces, EJ Speed.
For me, this is very strange to see a former
cult as a tech seg. Now, so what's it like
with him some of the other new faces this year's
defense so far?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What are you seeing?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I mean, EJ's picking up the defense great, and he's
a he's a hell of an athlete and a great player.
It's a it's fun to kind of watch his game
because we were always watching each other.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
And same division.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You said, they run a similar defense to us, and
so we watch a ton of Colts tape and watch it, Uh,
just scouting in general the opponent. But it's been really
fun to learn, like what his thought processes and play
with him and build some chemistry with him throughout OTAs.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So you're five, your four you're four four four still,
I mean, it's man, it feels like you've been here
for longer, and yet it feels like you just got here.
What's kind of been your focus going into this year
where this is the third year in this system we're
hearing I'd imagine a lot of the same things. You
can just go out there and kind of muscle memory
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things at times because you've.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Seen it before and heard it before.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What's that kind of been like for you, Jay, going
through this offseason and now your third year.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, I I mean, I think it it gives you
a lot of confidence one to when when every time
you step on the grass, you've done that, done everything,
done the process for two years and you just know
what uh Demko's looking for and what's expected around here.
So that's knowing knowing what you're going into every single
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season is very, very helpful. And with the same head coach,
it's a it's all it's been great.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Jake Hanson with us.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Okay, everybody wants to know about the new offense and
so I want you to reveal everything right now, but
everything it's early OTA's mini camp.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
But what do you see in so far?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What are some of the elements that you could share
with the fans about what this might look like come September.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I think coach coach Nick Kyley is doing a great
job of like putting guys, using guys to their attributes
and getting them in space and getting them good one
on one, good matchups every single every single time there's
a snap. So we'll use Kirk and they use his
skills their best way. He us Nico great like all
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those offensive weapons. I see them him emphasizing all their talents.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So yeah, he's doing a great job with that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Jake, are you Are you one of those players that
will pay attention to the schedule when it comes out
as far as who are playing when night games all that?
Or does that not even hit you at all? If
it is something that you kind of pay attention to.
Are there any kind of games that you point out, like,
oh man, primetime game here, this game? There anything you
kind of look at the schedule home over Tampa Bay, right.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I've heard folks, Yeah, No, I've heard about I've heard
about the Tampa Bay game just from family. I personally,
I don't look at it super closely. I notice, well,
I'm gonna play some buddies, Like there's some I have
a close friend on the Broncos, and I know I
circle that game you get to suit up against. Anytime
you get to suit up against someone like you went
to high school. Yeah, yeah, it's a cool opportunity. I
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would just say those the games where I know someone
or those type of games.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So that's what I look forward to during the season.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Before we know it, training camp will be here. How
will you handle training camp differently as you advance in
your career, if at all? Is it the same to
you or is it a little bit different. It's such
a grind you got to get through it. Last year
was seven weeks. It was crazy. It was We'll see
what this year brings. I know you have at least
joint practices with the Panthers. I believe maybe more. But
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what do you think?
Speaker 5 (38:57):
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I would say going into the biggest difference for me
is going into your forest. Don't make training camp bigger
than what it is. Right like every day, I think
my rookie.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Year I was.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I hated out as I thought it was big, scary
training camp, and it's I mean, it's a it's a grind,
it's hard, but I mean I've done training camp. My
whole feels like my whole life now. So don't make
it bigger than it is. Take one practice at a time,
and you know it's a just if you look. My
dad always talks about taking every when things like life
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gets hard, you take everything like hour by hour. So
don't think too much ahead, like just get next thing
you do is this meeting. Stay in the present for
this meeting, Stay in the present for practic don't think.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
About man, we got four more weeks until.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Like that'll make training camp feel like it's six months long.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So, you know, Jake, a lot of the coaches say, hey,
you want to do things right, look at a guy
like Will Anderson.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right, yeah, I look to a guy like you though.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
As an inspiration for a lot of young players, because
you know, you come in here love, he brings you
in and and Johnny was saying, watch out for this guy.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
This guy's gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
And you've been here a while now, So what's the
key to you and what's something you could share for
young players? Coming into the league trying to make their way.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I would say, I think that's you just have to
stick your head down until I mean, it's really just
stick your head down and go to work right, and
there's no ego. Uh, don't have an ego when you
come in here and be coachable.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
And be likable to everyone in the building.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I try and do my best to be likable around
here and work hard for the coaches. So be the
same person every single day, Like they know what they're
gonna get out of me every single day. And I
take pride in in them knowing that about me. So
that's that's what That's what I would say the young
players trying to make it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Last year, we had seven weeks of a training camp
because played the Hall of Fame game. And you'll see
where I'm going with this. You had a memorable Hall
of Fame game for a particular reason. And it was
at that point and I'm standing maybe ten yards away,
you make that tackle, and I thought this kickoff thing
ain't gonna fly because that collision happened so fast, like
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you got off your block and bang, like you hit
the returner right on a spot.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
And I thought, if this is the way it's gonna be.
This isn't what they want from me. Yeah, But as the.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Year wore on, how did you kind of like the
new kickoff rule when you were on special teams?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And do you think do you like it the way
it is?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Would you like to get I know it won't go back,
but did you like the old way better?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Did you get adapted to the new way? And how
do you think it might adapt as we go forward.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think initially I did not like it. I was
it was kind of an anytime you have changed in football,
I felt like it was it's bad. I felt like
it was bad for the game initially, But after after
a season with it, I think every one of my.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Special teams tackles came down kickoff off, so it was
I was like, dang, I kind of like this.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I like this new kickoff.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Found a way to be productive on kickoff. So it's
it was a It's grown on me a lot, and
after a year doing it, it's you're starting I'm starting
to get a better feel for kickoff return as well
and kickoff. So I think people always say like good
players have to adapt. So if you're gonna be a
good player in this league. I got to adapt to
the new rules, and I think as far as it
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like evolving, I think you're kind of seeing it evolve
right now with the new change, right Like, we'll probably
see another rule change the next year. Like if I
don't know, there's we're going to have a lot more
kick kicks in play this year. It seems like that's
what everyone's prediction is, right because of the the ball
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going to the thirty five with touchback. So I think
you'll see it continuously evolve and become I think it's
making special teams. The thing cool thing about it is
it's making special teams players more valuable. So that's the
way I'm looking at it, and that's a I think
that's the way everyone else should.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Look at outstanding. Jake, thanks so much for joining us.
Congratulations on getting married.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Thank you. Great break after mini camp, but we'll see
you soon enough.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
It's always a pleasure with you guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Likewise, thanks all.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Right, great stuff from Jake Hanson. We had a blast
catching up with the fourth year veteran. My goodness, time flies,
all right. We're going around the league. Nick Chubb, it
appears as past as physical. He is a Texan and
Anthony Richardson still injured. We'll talk about that next right here.
Going around the NFL and Texas All Access, we go
on final segment this Money edition to Texas All Access
(43:35):
coming at you, John Harris, Martin, vandermir Mark News Around
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
We talked about Nick Chubb to the Texans.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Apparently he has signed or passes physical yep, and he
will be a Texan.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Your thoughts in ten seconds, let's go. I thought, oh
my thoughts? Yeah, your thought Nick Chubb. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I said it before. I'm excited that he's in the mix.
You add depth to the running back room at his
peak obviously amazing. I don't know if you're gonna get
that out of him, but if you get eighty percent
of that, that's a lot. Obviously, Mixon is going to
be one to watch here. He has not participated so
far this offseason. A lot of reports about injury. Whatever.
(44:16):
You don't play a game for three months, but guess what,
not on the field is not on the field. So
you add depth to the running back room, get them
all out there, see what you got, and you have
many camp tomorrow. Can't wait to report tomorrow. Night on
what we see in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Anthony Richardson to miss Colts Mini caamp with a shoulder injury. Also,
Carly Ersay Gordon to serve as Indianapolis Colts principal owner
following the death of her father, Jim Ersay. Her official title,
effective immediately, will be team owner and CEO. Erse's other
two daughters, Casey Foyt and Kayln Jackson, will serve in
(44:54):
leadership duties for the team as part of ownership.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Boy, they've got some decisions to make very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah they do. If this season goes sideways for them,
Yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh my god, they do.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
And who knows how they're going to handle it. And
this wasn't like Ersay had years.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It wasn't like Bob McNair and Cal McNair, where Cal
clearly had the succession plan. I mean Bob had the
succession plan and many conversations with Cal on how to
do things and what's important to Bob anyway and what
could be important to the franchise in the NFL. Not
that Ersa hasn't had these conversations with Cig and his daughters,
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and obviously they've been involved, but I think the suddenness
of it does make things very interesting here, and you know, best.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Of luck to them, And I mean that, Johnny. You
know how I feel about the horseship. I know, but
I know it's a really rough situation. And they lose
their father and they're running this franchise. It's so difficult
to win in any way in the NFL, especially this way,
and they're in the midst of this.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Are we late in this ballad?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Shane Stike in regime, Stike it on purpose, diking with the.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Richardson injury for injury, Like we said, it does.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Point two, Hey, Daniel Jones gives us short term certainty
as to who the quarterback is, right, Hey, maybe they
go shopping.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Who knows, Maybe they're super aggressive. I don't know. Cousins,
Baby's gonna watch Cincinatti.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Bengals released their linebacker Jermaine Pratt one hundred and forty
three tackles last year, but he requested a trade from
the Bengals earlier this offseason, and he will he didn't
get his trade, but he got.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Released and in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Speaking of released Pro Bowl corner Giere Alexander released after
seven seasons. I know if you're thinking about, Oh man,
he'd be a great third corner with the Texans. Uh,
He's gonna cost a lot, a lot of money, so
don't even think about that, because if Texas thought they
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could have taken him in, they would have made a
trade for him to make sure that they got him
and didn't have to negotiate for him. All Right, that's
around the NFL, and that is the show. Big thanks
to Jake Hansen for being here Tomork, obviously to all
of you for listening. We'll see you tomorrow and as always,
go Texans.
TEP. Everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Happy Monday out there to everybody. It's happy media Days
to everybody inside the building. John Harrismart vandam here with you,
and we have had one long, exhausting day and yet
one of the most fruitful and fun days we have
had in a while.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Mark, how you doing. I feel I'm doing great, Johnny.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I feel like you know, we're on vapors a little
bit at this point of the day because we interviewed.
I haven't counted it. I think it's forty guys. It's
thirty eight or forty players today. This is a record,
and I know one right after the other media members listening.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This is not Media Day for everybody, you know.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, I think if I'm a media member, I hear
there were media days or Media Day today, people.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Are gonna say what what I wasn't invited? But it's internal.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
This is the day that the Texans take all the
videos of the guys on the video board, like come on, stand.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Up, good headshots for CBS, Yeah, network, all the networks.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we tend to talk to a bunch of guys.
It's like they're waiting to do other things. And many
years ago we decided this would be good to interview
some players that should give them something to do while
they're waiting to do that, and a lot of the
guys that maybe don't get the airtime. So you're gonna
be hearing these interviews from now until training camp. Basically
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that we were able to get done today and we
did research. And the other thing it does, Johnny, is
it enables us to just spend time and meet some
of these guys, especially some of the new players. You know,
I met meeting Jake Andrews today center. Yeah, getting to
know him. That's just one example. Players like that. And
then some old friends, old faces, old faces, young faces,
but uh, people we've known a while here in the building.
(01:40):
Really great to visit with them and see what they're
up to. How about Tremont Smith Seeing Trey again? Oh
that was cool.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I was just so cool, Like he was so excited
to be back in here, you know, fully fought of Cassi.
We had a great time talking to Foley and Mario Edwards.
Mario Edwards, I mean the guys we talked to. Okay,
so there was one theme that stood out to me
mostly and one of the groups of players that we
talked to, I want to get your thought, okay, because
(02:07):
I feel like I heard something over and over again
as we talked to the offensive line. Yeah, one theme.
Do you know what it is? Well, I thought competition.
Competition was definitely that was definitely part of and physical condition. Yeah,
there you go, ding ding, ding ding ding. I don't
have the ding, but give Mark a ding because that.
(02:28):
I don't know how many offensive line when we talked to today,
I mean ten, I mean, just off the top of
my head, Jalen Thomas, Jarrett Patterson, those two, Jake Andrews,
I mean Jack Thomas, Ladarius Henderson, Darius Henderson, Lake and
Thomlinson was that was a fun one. Lake and Thomlinson
(02:51):
was a fun one, I'm telling you. When we asked
kind of a common thread question kind of amongst those guys,
just you know, I'll give us a thought on the
office line, almost every single guy was like, we're gonna
be in shape yep. And that stood out to me like, huh, okay,
which you don't really think. You know, Oh, you know,
(03:13):
we're gonna be good at gap blocking. You know, we're
gonna be good down blocks, We're gonna be good in
pass protection. You know, we're gonna be physical either hand,
but no, it was we're gonna be in shape.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Well, one of the conversations and you'll be hearing this
one soon enough with Zach Thomas produced this thought, and look,
this is an obvious thing, but maybe it doesn't get
brought up enough. The old lineman, five guys out there
the whole time. The D line, it's hockey line to change, right,
they change bodies all the time. And I know that
one requires something different than the other because the old line,
(03:45):
it's the old they know where they're going. The D line,
they're not sure where the ball is going, which way
it's headed, and they're trying to wreck something. The old
Lion's trying to execute a play that was called. I
know they execute calls on defense. But the point is
got to be in great shape to perform at the
highest level in this league. And not that they weren't
in great shape before, but they want to be in
(04:05):
the best shape possible than they were.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
The fact that they almost to a man, all pointed
it out made me think that that was a focal
point amongst discussion with the offensive line going forward, like
you're gonna you're gonna be in the right shape, You're
gonna be both aerobic and anaerobic. You're gonna be in shape,
(04:31):
and you Zach put it. When I heard Zach say,
was like, well, yeah, that makes sense. You know you're
going against waves of defensive linemen at a time, but
you I just got the feeling that in talking with
these offensive linemen that the cardio the conditioning had to
be at a higher level, and I thought that was
(04:53):
that was telling. I thought another couple of things, especially
when we talked to Lake and Tomlinson. I say this
to you a when we have new players that come
through here and we get to interview him for the
first time or whatever the case might be, I'll look
at you and go, oh, I don't get this one.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Most of the time, I say to you, I get it.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Look, I get why they went out and got that guy.
I get why they went out and resigned Trey Montsmith.
I totally get why they signed Lake and Tomlinson.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
You just listen to him speak, and you listen to
how he describes the way he goes about his business
and how he interacted with us, and I'm like, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
This guy's been in the league ten years.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Like it makes total, complete and total sense that they
would want to go on the offensive line that thinks
and talks and acts like he does.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think that it also speaks to this comparison. Sometimes
in baseball you say, oh, that guy's a professional hitter.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He's a professional hitter.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I felt like we're talking to a professional guard.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
That's what Laken Tomlinson is. He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
You know you're going to get a certain level of
performance out of him that you can rely on.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I believe that.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Look, I cannot automatically say that he's the man that
they're going to have in there for the next five
ten years. I can't say that necessarily, but you can
rely on him. You can go to battle with Lake
and Tomlinson and feel good. Now, they also have other
players who could step in and beat them out. You
never know, right, and I hate to word it like that,
(06:32):
but you have opportunities here for young individuals to make
some noise at those guard spots, at all spots in
the offensive line. And that's how they set this thing
up with lots of competition. And when you look at
wide receiver you see that too. Really all position groups
they have talked about it. They want competition. Well, they're
living it. Let's get some competition and hear all these
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position groups. We want to get to another level. And
that's how you do it, because we talk to a
bunch of a linemen today and you could write a story,
a projected story on a number of different players rising
up to a level that we've never seen before from
their particular game and they reached that and they find
a way to get into the game that by the
way to get into the lineup.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I mean talking to Jared Patterson. I remember back when
you know Jared's six round pick. I don't know her
name yet. He's starting in Game one against the Baltimore Ravens,
and you'll hear that conversation and he talked about what
that was like, and he said, being drafted in six
round I almost did him a favor because he's like, Yo,
what expectations are on me?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Are the ones I set for myself.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
But one other thing he said, and I think sometimes
this kind of gets lost in the wash a little bit.
I said, what what kind of do you have plan
going into the to the off season? And then what
are you excited about the offseason and getting ready for
training camp, and he said, well, this really is the
first time that I'm not rehabbing something.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's huge and huge. I thought about that.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I was like, man, and he kind of rewound back.
Like the last four years, he's like his last couple
of years in Notre Name, he was dealing with something,
you know, in the training camp in twenty twenty three
he had tweaked his hamstring, and then in last year
he was coming back from his writ you know, the
injury he had that ended his rookie season against Carolina.
So it's like, Man, instead of rehabbing, you get to
(08:19):
start stacking days and start putting together what it is
that you want to be as an offensive lineman. So
we got some great stuff on the offensive line. We
got great stuff and everybody, I'll tell you one of
my favorite discussions because it was very it was very
football ly and I know when a certain section of
our listeners here's this, They're gonna be like, no, no, no, no,
(08:40):
no no. When you talk about Braxton Barrios, you have
talked about Alex Earl. We talked to Braxton Barrios and
we did ask about Alex.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We felt like we had way and he understood. But
we talked football.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
He talked football the way, you know, just he describing
running routes and seeing coverages and what coverages he was
seeing and.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
What that man I was, I was.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I had a blast talking to Braxton Barrios just because
we were talking you know, in depth ball, which I
thought was really really fun. On top of you know,
just you know where he's from and how he got
here and all that kind of stuff, but just talking
ball about playing slot receiver, returning punts, those kind of things.
I mean, it was it was really fun talking to
him about that.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
We could have talked to him for forty five minutes
about alex Earl and social media and stuff. We wanted
to talk ball. This is our first meeting with him. Yeah,
didn't want it to be all about her, right. In
doing research for today's interviews, I did peruse a few
alex Earl and Marios videos, right, And you know, in
doing this you're gonna see some Alex Earl, you know,
(09:43):
doing stuff by herself videos.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
And I did want to ask.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Him a lot of this, but I mean, I got
she's got like millions, yeah, I mean, she's millions of followers.
Somebody told me, and I didn't check all the views
on each video, but the one that he's in do
really well. They do a lot better than some of
the ones where she's going over different products that she
uses or clothing, clothing lines or whatever. So that says
(10:10):
something about the chemistry they have and people want to
see them together.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But look, this is a football show.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
I know we do lifestyle stuff, of course, but our
first meeting with Braxton, we wanted to be football, but
we did ask him some things about her and I
just thought there were so many great conversations Johnny, and
one thing that came up also, oh, by the way,
back to the old line for a moment. It's funny
with a lot of these competition situations that you have
on the football team, when we're talking to Patterson, I'm like, oh,
(10:37):
he's the starting center on this football team. We talked
to Jake Andrews, and I'm thinking he's the starting center
of this football team because the command that Andrews has,
the smarts, the confidence, and I know it's not like
you're talking to Dwight Stevenson over here, or you know,
you're not talking to a ten year veteran who's done it.
But you feel like he could probably do the job.
(10:58):
But you know Patterson can do the job, and you've
won big games with Jared Patterson, so why not him. Now,
we didn't talk to Jews today. We didn't talk to
a number of people. We didn't talk to Cam Robertson.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
We had to light out the door at one point.
And we like to spend at least five, six, seven
minutes at least with these guys, and we want to
keep it under ten because again there's a line and
somebody's got all of them. We could spend more time
with some of them.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Were thinking you could spend three hours with this guy,
Yakub Johnson from Germany.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yakab Johnson was fantastic, fantastic. We just we didn't even
scratch the surface in talking with the Yakam Johnson and
it was it was great, it was great, It was phenomenal.
And just how did he get to the NFL? Yep,
it's really fascinating wild how he.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Got to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'll tell you this though, I'll say this, I've told
him this to his face.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I've told anybody that I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
That I've talked to over the years, one of my
five favorite Texans that have ever walked into this building
is Daria Gumbwale. Yeah, I just unlike he's I love
that guy.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I love him.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He's good on the mic, He's very thoughtful with his answers.
He obviously plays football very well. You pointed out early
in the interview about how many clutch plays he's made
the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
And I didn't even go over the field goal against
the Bucks. I was just talking about last year, last year,
and then I'm sure that Danny Barrett, if he were here,
he would tell you, well, look at these past pro
plays where a would be sacker was about to derail
the entire operation, but Dari picked him up right and
maybe not getting the credit, but that's just the way
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football is. It's eleven on eleven. A lot of guys
have to make plays for them to be successful, plays
within the play, and he does all that too. And
as you talked to and I wrote about this on
Houston Texans dot com, it's gonna be tough. It's gonna
be tough for a Woody Marks to replaced Daria good Balwally.
If that's in his plans, it's gonna be really difficult.
He is a seasoned pro, knows what he's doing. Year
(13:14):
nine for him or something like that. Year nine, yeah, amazing,
and started here in seventeen. Don't be surprised if we're
not talking to him next year year ten. One of
the things that he brought up, I thought was, I
gotta ask this question. I asked his question many years
ago about Kevin Johnson. Texans drafted Kevin Johnson, a corner
out of Wake Forest in twenty fifteen. Kevin had a
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really solid twenty fifteen, was off to a bang up
start in twenty sixteen, and he broke his foot against
the Indianapolis Colts on the Sunday night win and he
didn't play again at twenty sixteen, and Kevin never really
got his confidence back. And so I asked Daria the question,
what would nine year veteran Daria Gumbwalle tell rookie Darya Gumbwalle,
(14:02):
And I asked that question that a lot of the guys,
you know, what would be that piece of advice you'd
give your you know, like you'd go back and tell
you your rookie self question, you know what what advice
would you give? And Dari thought about you know, it's
a really good question. He goes, you know that I'm
good enough, And I asked him, I said, followed that
up with after he gave a great thoftl answer, I said,
(14:24):
how often have you seen guys lose a job or
get you know, taken off a roster or whatever the
case might be, just because they've lost confidence but not
lost talent?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
He goes man way more than you know. And that's
what made me think about Kevin Johnson, because I felt
like Kevin's lost confidence after, you know, coming back from
the foot injury.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
He just never got his confidence back.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And I think that was one of the things that
that really kind of held him back. And I just
hear it from Darry don't forget how good you are.
I knew how good I was, and just hearing him
talk through that, and then the guys he learned from. Obviously,
one of the guys he learned from was in Tampa,
guy named Quiz Rogers who played the Mark Consolidated, whose
uncle is a good friend of mine. And so I've
(15:03):
known Quiz for for a long time. And Quiz doesn't
say whole lot, just did his job, did the best
of his ability.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Was a great pass protector.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
He said, that's where Darry sort of learned how to
pass protect and followed quiz and watch quiz.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He watched Carlos Hyde when he's in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And so it was just really interesting the introspection you
got from Dara, and when you think about him getting
here in twenty one and you have these years in
twenty one, twenty two, they're you're tough, but you make
it through and you get to twenty three and twenty
four and you're such a part of some great wins,
make some clutch plays. The Jacksonville game in Week four,
(15:41):
I mean the Buffalo game that like just little reception
right before Kaimi's game winning kick, the fake pun against Miami.
You can go through and remember all these plays about
Dara and the impact he's made with them, and you
realize that's why he's still here and for many years.
I mean, the fans something that, oh, that guy would
replaced Daria. Now what he's going to replace Dari?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
And it's like, man, I don't know about that, don't
want that to happen.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Look at Dary's path. That didn't happen for him right away,
and he has a role. He plays it well. Now
along these lines, and by the way, as we're talking
about all these interviews we did, you're gonna be hearing
them that we're going to unroll them, roll them out
over the coming weeks. This is kind of like one
of those coming up this season. Whatever the show is, right,
they give it a prequel, the little preview.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Show of the entire season and scenes to come.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Damian Pierce had a chance to sit down with him
as well, and you know he really wants to fire
out of the gate here.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Obviously it's year four for him.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
This is a contract year if you will do something big,
and we know that he knows that. Look, there's always
people trying to take your spot, you know what he
Mark's coming in here, hey, and not that he's going
to take a spot, but you know, the more running
backs you have in the room, the more at any
position group, the less opportunity you have, right right, So
(17:04):
you have to rise up, Like I said, competition. Nick
Chubb reportedly comes in. Those reports started coming out what
yesterday over the weekend. Yeah, and then today Rappaport says
it's done, or Dina Rassini, I should say that he
passed the physical because they haven't announced anything yet, but
that would be really interesting. You get that added to
the equation. We all know mixing hasn't participated in OTAs
(17:28):
and we'll see about mini camp with Damien and such.
But this is gonna be, I think, a really good
thing for this football team. Add another potentially great player.
He is a great player, but can he be great
again coming off back to back injury riddled seasons. Four
time Pro Bowler, total stud your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, Building off of what we were talking about the
running as, we talked with every running back I think today.
I think we talked with every running back today other
than Joe. And obviously, you know, Joe's coming back from something.
I think it's been reported. You know, he came back
from something at the ankle from the offseason. I mean
out of the ankle was bothering him the last half
(18:09):
of the year and he still played through it. I mean,
Joe's a warrior. But I saw the news yesterday and
I thought, oh okay, and immediately, you know, your mind
goes to you know, Nick Chubb at his best, and
you're like, whoa. You realize, Okay, he's coming off I
gotta I gotta make sure. I don't like overseell this.
(18:32):
But in my mind, he's coming off a couple of
years injuries. It was a pretty catastrophic knee injury that
he had in twenty twenty three. He came back and
he had a foot injury last year. He's not the
Nick Chubb that we remember from the glory days of
the Browns where he's pounded out fifteen hundred yard years
where it felt like every other year. He's not the
(18:52):
not the Nick Chubb I saw in the wild Weather
of twenty twenty, the COVID year where he went out
of bounds the five yard line and he just destroyed
us in that game. We can't tackle him. That's he
were five years removed from that. However, I don't think
he has to be that guy. I think he just
has to be. And I know a lot of people
(19:13):
have mentioned this, and you maybe alluded to this as
Cam Akers from last year. You know, Cam was coming
off a season where he had torn his achilles again.
It was the second time he had done that. Everybody thought,
what's this guy got left? Well, you take a one
year flyer on him and you realize you get him
in a camp and you're like, holy God, he's got
something left. Yeah, you end up turning out around for
(19:34):
some draft capital. So you know, camp can go back
to Minnesota and have an opportunity with the Vikings at
that point, because we were kind of you know, jammed
up with Joe with Damien, it was hard to get
reps for everybody there at running back. I think with
Chubb coming in, I think in a lot of ways
to look at it. Number one, how healthy, How healthy
(19:55):
is Joe? What what's the status? What's the prognosis for Joe?
My gut tell me that Joe isn't gonna miss anything.
He has been durables. I'll get out and outside of
the five games he missed last year with Dankele, before that,
it was seven, sixteen, seventeen.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Games a year.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But you just just never know. And when you you know,
when a guy is not at OTAs or you don't
see him or he's not in mini camp and you
know he's coming back from something, Hey, you wonder, Okay,
we think he's going to be back. We hope he's
going to be back, but you know, just in case,
And so I feel like Nick Chubb ends up being
(20:33):
maybe insurance for any and all of it. Best case,
he ends up being just another iron that goes in
the fire that you can go to and give seven
to eight carries the game when you need it, and
power the football and run the football and just take
heat off everybody else. So if it is Nick Chubb
and it is official, I'm only pretty excited about it,
(20:54):
I think partially just because it's Nick Chubb and I
think a lot of people remember him as Nick Chubb.
I hope they're not disappointed when they see that, Yeah,
this is a guy that's been impacted by injuries, but
he still can offer something to this offense in the
run game that I love.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And if it ends up being insurance.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Great, It's one year, it's probably not a massive contract.
Apparently it's an incentive laden contract, which is probably the
right way to have done it. But I'm pumped about it,
to be honest, I think there's some good football still
left in him, and I hope that he can provide
it for this team.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Well, I just think it adds to the pile, right yep.
And it's pretty good looking right now. You get mixing
back healthy and who knows what the situation is. But
I pointed out previously, you don't play a game for
three months. In three months, you play your first meaningful
football game almost exactly right. So three months you're good
to go with Joe, I would hope, but if not,
(21:52):
maybe Chubb Damian Pierce. Like we said, Damien wants to
play really well this year. And the last time we
saw him carrying the rock was against Tennessee and he
was awesome and this was an outstanding run defense and
I know, last game of the season, but they were
trying to get that one, and then you look at
whatever else could happen wild card wise at this position.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Juwar Jordan, we talked to him today. You mentioned it. Yeah,
you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
We did talk to just about every running back except Joe.
I don't know JJ Taylor can still do some things
for this football team. We mentioned dare so add to
the mix like they do with other position groups. I
don't know how it's all going to play out. Like
last year, I didn't know how Acres would play out.
But Acres in camp looked like the best back on
the field for the Houston Texans for a while, and
(22:38):
then you said it, you end up getting draft camp
for him, and at one point you felt like maybe
we shouldn't have given up cam Akers because they got
thin and running back with injuries.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So no, I like it. Pick him up.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's not going to kill you financially, and the upside
is very high.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's very high. Johnny.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
You could imagine everybody healthy and Shub back to his
old form, potentially at least for a while. What if
it's for a playoff run. He's like a hot goalie
in the NHL and you're riding Nick Chubb. What if
he's John Riggins after he's done with the Jets, etc.
And ends up with Washington and goes on that run. Look,
that's best case. That's the best case scenario with other
(23:17):
things happening where Joe can't play or whatever. And I
don't want to say that's any kind of good scenario,
but anyway, the point is this.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
It's a great insurance policy, right, it really is. It's
worth it. I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
One of the things that Shawn Seth were talking about
this this morning, and one of the things that probably
hit me maybe more than anything else, was that Browns
fans didn't want to lose Nick Chubb, not Nick Chubb,
running back, not star running back, not fantasy football legend.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
They didn't want to lose Nick Chubb, the player, the person,
the guy.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And when I think about that, I'm like, ooh, you
add another swarmy veteran to the mix that has seen
some things, that has been there, that has been through
the rough times, that has gone through injuries and rebounded.
That's the kind of guy that you want.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I don't from what I remember, Nick doesn't say a
whole heck of a lot. But when you have Browns
fans just mad they're losing that guy, I'm like, let's
go the swarmier the better.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You got an AFC North reunion in the running back
room with Joe Mixon and Nick Chubb, exactly, all we
need is Najie Harris here and JK Dobbins.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Let's go baby, JK Dobbins, you know, yeah, yeah, Because
there was a lot of talk about JK Dobbins, Yeah
in the Texans And so I remember seeing that back
a month or so ago.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I just saw it kind of thrown out there and
it really didn't have any kind of legs to it. It
didn't seem but I thought, yeah, that wouldn't be a
bad move. You know, same kind of thing guy's been.
He's deubled injuries, had I thought a solid bounce back year.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Were the Chargers year. We saw him in a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I don't think he got much blocking and he's running
against our defense and so there wasn't a whole lot
there for him.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
But I thought, yeah, JK.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Dobbins, And then I remember thinking, wait, Nick Chubb is
still not signed right, Well, I think either one of
those would end up being a good fit in our
running back room, because I don't think that especially Chubb
not a diva.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Just come in, put his head down.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Go to work, be a nice solid veteran addition, and
that affords you a lot of different things. I mean, look,
Joe doesn't have to be back for the first day
of training camp. He doesn't have to be back for
the first day of training camp. He can come along
at his pace and be one hundred percent healthy to
dive into the season once he's ready to go. Look,
I hope he's ready to go day one, but that
(25:48):
may not be the case. So now you've got insurance
to see what you've got with Chubb see where Damian
Pierce is. Get your rookies and your young guys involved
along with Dara and see what this running back room
could be. I just think it's more positive than it
is anything else. Now, speaking of the AFC North, one
(26:09):
other one that you have not had a chance to
comment on. Actually I did a comment on it a
little bit the other day, but I didn't want to
spend a whole lot of time with it. The Pittsburgh
Steelers have a new quarterback, and it's a guy that's
been rumored. It felt like he'd already been there, but
they made it official going into mini camp Aaron Rodgers
one year about thirteen million dollars, Maybe the opportunity to
(26:32):
get a little bit more your thoughts for Rogers, the Steelers,
the AFC North. Are they a bigger threat now with
Rogers than they were without?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
We won't know it until we see it.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But the vibe I get is, Okay, it'll be better
than it was going to be with say Will Howard, Yeah,
Mason Rudolph. Of course, you know it's going to be
better than that. But how much better? How much better
will it be? We don't know what Rogers is going
to do. After missing the entire offseason basically, and I
know Rogers doesn't need OTAs, what come on, it has
(27:08):
to have some sort of effect. Now, maybe you save
on the wear and tear there, but let's just move
it forward into the season. I don't think it puts
the Steelers, and look, maybe it does, but I don't
think it puts the Steelers in any kind.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Of AFC contender situation.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
It does make them stronger, and what I like about
it is it makes them more able to put dents
in the Baltimore Ravens in whatever the Cincinnati Bengals are
able to produce. It does help them be more competitive
in that division against them.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
We do not play the Steelers this year, that's right. Good.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Who's their AFC South the ponent, Johnny, It's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Be were they were second? Right, you were second?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, Ravens won Steelers two, Bengals three, Browns four.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So they'll play the.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Colts Colts, yeah, good, make them stronger against the Colts.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
And speaking of the Colts.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
To the Colts, your guy Anthony Richardson shoulder situation.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Right again, I think that I would rather have Anthony
Richardson available from a Texans perspective, because I want those
two quarterbacks to, you know, make the coach's head spin
around and wonder what to do. And Richardson made one
of those amazing plays and look at the upside and
oh my gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Now that they know they have certainty that it's Daniel
Jones at least for most of the season. Yeah, and
if he's going good, there's no way they're going to
take him out Now that they know this, doesn't it
help them to have that certainty? Now you could also argue, well,
they have nowhere else to go, you know, Sam Ellinger,
I don't think it's gonna happen. So you could argue
(28:46):
the upside is not really that high. How high is
the ceiling with Daniel Jones. I venture to say the
ceiling's reasonably high, because with healthy Jonathan Taylor running the ball,
you can imagine a do of Barkley against Minnesota and
the playoffs in twenty twenty three, No, twenty twenty two.
Rather yeah, and I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but look,
(29:11):
if Taylor's running the ball really well, in Jones is
somehow not turning the ball over somehow that could be
really special for them.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Does it hurt them more? Does it?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I guess I'm asking the question, does it help them
more than it hurts them? Because they're certainty now at
the quarterback position. Certainly as far as who you're gonna
start week one, okay, not oh my gosh, we got
our guy for the next ten years, because it's certainly.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Not the case there now. I wish you were playing
a Colts a week one.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'd rather see Daniel Jones in Week one than I
would after a few weeks of getting his feet underneath him.
And it's I don't really know how to say this,
but I feel like the Colts can be better with
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
But Richardson at quarterback scares me way, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Sure, because he can make two plays in one game
that'll kill you and keep them in a ball.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Exactly they should have been in that game.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
And he throws that thing fading away off his back foot.
I got to thinking about this. Have you bright way
of saying this? Anthony Richardson, God bless him. Was never
good in high school, was really never good at Florida,
(30:25):
and has not been good in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It's all spec, it's all ceiling, it's all potential.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, it was all based on potential, and it was
like he never reached any of that potential at any
three levels of football.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
It's like buying stock in an app that is not
yet fully developed, but it could do this. It could,
you know, be able to hologram you over to I
don't know whatever kind of metaphor high tech wise you
want to produce. Yeah, there was never any physical evidence
that he could do it over a long period of time,
and there.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
At any level like usually, I mean they're in some
bust in the NFL. Mike Ryan Leaf is one is
thought to be one of the great NFL bus. Ryan
Leaf was a really freaking good college quarterback. There's a
reason why I was drafted, really really good.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Richison was drafted number four just on pure speculators spec.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, pure spec. So it's unbelievable. This could take down
the entire Cults operation. By the way, because now you
have it's not CGI, it's c IG right in charge.
She's in charge.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
And look they're gonna have to take everybody out if
this doesn't work right this, I would.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Think, so, I would think, so we'll see what ends up?
What was happening all right?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Anthony Richardson from Florida. Jake Hanson also from Florida. He
had a big, big weekend, but he's back for Mini Camp.
What happened this weekend and why is he excited about
Mini Camp. We'll talk to Jake Hanson next right here
in Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Welcome back this.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Monday issue of Texans All Access from London, Texans A
Radio studio, John Harrison, Mark vander Meer here also with us,
Jake Hanson.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
We had a blast catching up with Jake.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
He got married this weekend and got back from Mini Caamp.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
How about that? Take a listen me Mark and.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Jake newly married Jake Hanson and guess what this is
your honeymoon. You just got married and I'm sure this
is what you had in mind to spend your honeymoon
with us because it was this weekend, right, Jake?
Speaker 5 (32:23):
It was It was Saturday Texans Radio for honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, okay, So I want to know how this went over,
Like your your wedding planning A how much were you
involved in wedding planning? And B why now coming back
from Mini Caamp? Why did you wait another week and
then just go straight from honeymoon there too complex the
situation or just get out unfolded.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
So one I wish we could have done it like that.
That was I mean, that would have been ideal. But
the booking venues and everything in downtown Chicago, everyone wants
to get married in the summer. Yeah, so you have
to have the church line up in the hotel and
the event space lined up. And not everyone does the church,
(33:06):
but we we did it. We wanted to have a
church involved, and uh yeah, so it's hard to get
everything lined up on the exact date and everything's booked
a year out a year plus now with all the
summertime weddings in Chicago. So that was this is a opportunity.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
And I knew that.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Usually Monday's media day, so I you know, we have
a few extra days to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, this is a is this a tough day? This
is kind of a chill day media day.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah, it's not not a super not physically taxing. So
after your stay up late, you know, you get tired.
So it's a it's a really fun weekend.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Okay, well we buried the lead.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Congratulations, Well thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
First you know we were you know, congratulations tell us.
I mean, how long you guys been going on? How
long you guys known each other? Is she from here?
Is she from back home? Where's she from?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So she's from the North suburbs Chicago, Lake Forest. We
met at the University of Illinois, Okay, and we've been
dating for about four and a half years. Yeah, so
just just under five years we've known each other. And yeah,
we got engaged about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
And yeah, no married, right, So just a couple of
other things.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
On the wedding, everything goes smoothly, No wild crazy stories,
you know, Uncle fly pets running down the aisle or
anything like that.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Nothing, nothing too crazy. Everything really went.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
There's a I mean, I think everyone realized on their
wedding day is a small couple of things that don't
go exactly how you wanted to go. But I mean
we had a blast after after I said I do,
it was a blur and we just had so much
fun and get to see so many people we love
and care about.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
So it was it was it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So with next week, you guys, well this week being
mini camp, you guys are out of here.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What are the honeymoon plants. What are you guys planning doing.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
We're going to Cabo for three days.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
So we've done a lot of travel this offseason, so
we didn't want to do like some like ten day yeah,
European tour.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Like we just let's go to me.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Let's go somewhere tropical, sit on the beach for three
days and enjoy being. Ota is done and our wedding, Uh,
all the wedding planning is over, so it'd be great.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
Great idea. All right, so let's talk some ball here.
Every year is different. He got some new faces, EJ Speed.
For me, this is very strange to see a former
cult as a tech seg. Now, so what's it like
with him some of the other new faces this year's
defense so far?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
What are you seeing?
Speaker 5 (35:32):
I think?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I mean, EJ's picking up the defense great, and he's
a he's a hell of an athlete and a great player.
It's a it's fun to kind of watch his game
because we were always watching each other.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
And same division.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
You said, they run a similar defense to us, and
so we watch a ton of Colts tape and watch it, Uh,
just scouting in general the opponent. But it's been really
fun to learn, like what his thought processes and play
with him and build some chemistry with him throughout OTAs.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So you're five, your four you're four four four still,
I mean, it's man, it feels like you've been here
for longer, and yet it feels like you just got here.
What's kind of been your focus going into this year
where this is the third year in this system we're
hearing I'd imagine a lot of the same things. You
can just go out there and kind of muscle memory
(36:21):
things at times because you've.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Seen it before and heard it before.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
What's that kind of been like for you, Jay, going
through this offseason and now your third year.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Well, I I mean, I think it it gives you
a lot of confidence one to when when every time
you step on the grass, you've done that, done everything,
done the process for two years and you just know
what uh Demko's looking for and what's expected around here.
So that's knowing knowing what you're going into every single
(36:49):
season is very, very helpful. And with the same head coach,
it's a it's all it's been great.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Jake Hanson with us.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Okay, everybody wants to know about the new offense and
so I want you to reveal everything right now, but
everything it's early OTA's mini camp.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
But what do you see in so far?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
What are some of the elements that you could share
with the fans about what this might look like come September.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I think coach coach Nick Kyley is doing a great
job of like putting guys, using guys to their attributes
and getting them in space and getting them good one
on one, good matchups every single every single time there's
a snap. So we'll use Kirk and they use his
skills their best way. He us Nico great like all
(37:35):
those offensive weapons. I see them him emphasizing all their talents.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
So yeah, he's doing a great job with that.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Jake, are you Are you one of those players that
will pay attention to the schedule when it comes out
as far as who are playing when night games all that?
Or does that not even hit you at all? If
it is something that you kind of pay attention to.
Are there any kind of games that you point out, like,
oh man, primetime game here, this game? There anything you
kind of look at the schedule home over Tampa Bay, right.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I've heard folks, Yeah, No, I've heard about I've heard
about the Tampa Bay game just from family. I personally,
I don't look at it super closely. I notice, well,
I'm gonna play some buddies, Like there's some I have
a close friend on the Broncos, and I know I
circle that game you get to suit up against. Anytime
you get to suit up against someone like you went
to high school. Yeah, yeah, it's a cool opportunity. I
(38:29):
would just say those the games where I know someone
or those type of games.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
So that's what I look forward to during the season.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Before we know it, training camp will be here. How
will you handle training camp differently as you advance in
your career, if at all? Is it the same to
you or is it a little bit different. It's such
a grind you got to get through it. Last year
was seven weeks. It was crazy. It was We'll see
what this year brings. I know you have at least
joint practices with the Panthers. I believe maybe more. But
(38:56):
what do you think?
Speaker 5 (38:57):
I think.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I would say going into the biggest difference for me
is going into your forest. Don't make training camp bigger
than what it is. Right like every day, I think
my rookie.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
Year I was.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
I hated out as I thought it was big, scary
training camp, and it's I mean, it's a it's a grind,
it's hard, but I mean I've done training camp. My
whole feels like my whole life now. So don't make
it bigger than it is. Take one practice at a time,
and you know it's a just if you look. My
dad always talks about taking every when things like life
(39:36):
gets hard, you take everything like hour by hour. So
don't think too much ahead, like just get next thing
you do is this meeting. Stay in the present for
this meeting, Stay in the present for practic don't think.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
About man, we got four more weeks until.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Like that'll make training camp feel like it's six months long.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So, you know, Jake, a lot of the coaches say, hey,
you want to do things right, look at a guy
like Will Anderson.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Right, yeah, I look to a guy like you though.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
As an inspiration for a lot of young players, because
you know, you come in here love, he brings you
in and and Johnny was saying, watch out for this guy.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
This guy's gonna be here.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
And you've been here a while now, So what's the
key to you and what's something you could share for
young players? Coming into the league trying to make their way.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I would say, I think that's you just have to
stick your head down until I mean, it's really just
stick your head down and go to work right, and
there's no ego. Uh, don't have an ego when you
come in here and be coachable.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
And be likable to everyone in the building.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
I try and do my best to be likable around
here and work hard for the coaches. So be the
same person every single day, Like they know what they're
gonna get out of me every single day. And I
take pride in in them knowing that about me. So
that's that's what That's what I would say the young
players trying to make it.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Last year, we had seven weeks of a training camp
because played the Hall of Fame game. And you'll see
where I'm going with this. You had a memorable Hall
of Fame game for a particular reason. And it was
at that point and I'm standing maybe ten yards away,
you make that tackle, and I thought this kickoff thing
ain't gonna fly because that collision happened so fast, like
(41:18):
you got off your block and bang, like you hit
the returner right on a spot.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
And I thought, if this is the way it's gonna be.
This isn't what they want from me. Yeah, But as the.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Year wore on, how did you kind of like the
new kickoff rule when you were on special teams?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
And do you think do you like it the way
it is?
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Would you like to get I know it won't go back,
but did you like the old way better?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Did you get adapted to the new way? And how
do you think it might adapt as we go forward.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think initially I did not like it. I was
it was kind of an anytime you have changed in football,
I felt like it was it's bad. I felt like
it was bad for the game initially, But after after
a season with it, I think every one of my.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Special teams tackles came down kickoff off, so it was
I was like, dang, I kind of like this.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I like this new kickoff.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Found a way to be productive on kickoff. So it's
it was a It's grown on me a lot, and
after a year doing it, it's you're starting I'm starting
to get a better feel for kickoff return as well
and kickoff. So I think people always say like good
players have to adapt. So if you're gonna be a
good player in this league. I got to adapt to
the new rules, and I think as far as it
(42:26):
like evolving, I think you're kind of seeing it evolve
right now with the new change, right Like, we'll probably
see another rule change the next year. Like if I
don't know, there's we're going to have a lot more
kick kicks in play this year. It seems like that's
what everyone's prediction is, right because of the the ball
(42:47):
going to the thirty five with touchback. So I think
you'll see it continuously evolve and become I think it's
making special teams. The thing cool thing about it is
it's making special teams players more valuable. So that's the
way I'm looking at it, and that's a I think
that's the way everyone else should.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Look at outstanding. Jake, thanks so much for joining us.
Congratulations on getting married.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Thank you. Great break after mini camp, but we'll see
you soon enough.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
It's always a pleasure with you guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Likewise, thanks all.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Right, great stuff from Jake Hanson. We had a blast
catching up with the fourth year veteran. My goodness, time flies,
all right. We're going around the league. Nick Chubb, it
appears as past as physical. He is a Texan and
Anthony Richardson still injured. We'll talk about that next right here.
Going around the NFL and Texas All Access, we go
on final segment this Money edition to Texas All Access
(43:35):
coming at you, John Harris, Martin, vandermir Mark News Around
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
We talked about Nick Chubb to the Texans.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
Apparently he has signed or passes physical yep, and he
will be a Texan.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Your thoughts in ten seconds, let's go. I thought, oh
my thoughts? Yeah, your thought Nick Chubb. I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
I said it before. I'm excited that he's in the mix.
You add depth to the running back room at his
peak obviously amazing. I don't know if you're gonna get
that out of him, but if you get eighty percent
of that, that's a lot. Obviously, Mixon is going to
be one to watch here. He has not participated so
far this offseason. A lot of reports about injury. Whatever.
(44:16):
You don't play a game for three months, but guess what,
not on the field is not on the field. So
you add depth to the running back room, get them
all out there, see what you got, and you have
many camp tomorrow. Can't wait to report tomorrow. Night on
what we see in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Anthony Richardson to miss Colts Mini caamp with a shoulder injury. Also,
Carly Ersay Gordon to serve as Indianapolis Colts principal owner
following the death of her father, Jim Ersay. Her official title,
effective immediately, will be team owner and CEO. Erse's other
two daughters, Casey Foyt and Kayln Jackson, will serve in
(44:54):
leadership duties for the team as part of ownership.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Boy, they've got some decisions to make very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah they do. If this season goes sideways for them,
Yeah they do.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Oh my god, they do.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
And who knows how they're going to handle it. And
this wasn't like Ersay had years.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
It wasn't like Bob McNair and Cal McNair, where Cal
clearly had the succession plan. I mean Bob had the
succession plan and many conversations with Cal on how to
do things and what's important to Bob anyway and what
could be important to the franchise in the NFL. Not
that Ersa hasn't had these conversations with Cig and his daughters,
(45:31):
and obviously they've been involved, but I think the suddenness
of it does make things very interesting here, and you know, best.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Of luck to them, And I mean that, Johnny. You
know how I feel about the horseship. I know, but
I know it's a really rough situation. And they lose
their father and they're running this franchise. It's so difficult
to win in any way in the NFL, especially this way,
and they're in the midst of this.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Are we late in this ballad?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Shane Stike in regime, Stike it on purpose, diking with the.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Richardson injury for injury, Like we said, it does.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Point two, Hey, Daniel Jones gives us short term certainty
as to who the quarterback is, right, Hey, maybe they
go shopping.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
Who knows, Maybe they're super aggressive. I don't know. Cousins,
Baby's gonna watch Cincinatti.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Bengals released their linebacker Jermaine Pratt one hundred and forty
three tackles last year, but he requested a trade from
the Bengals earlier this offseason, and he will he didn't
get his trade, but he got.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Released and in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Speaking of released Pro Bowl corner Giere Alexander released after
seven seasons. I know if you're thinking about, Oh man,
he'd be a great third corner with the Texans. Uh,
He's gonna cost a lot, a lot of money, so
don't even think about that, because if Texas thought they
(46:52):
could have taken him in, they would have made a
trade for him to make sure that they got him
and didn't have to negotiate for him. All Right, that's
around the NFL, and that is the show. Big thanks
to Jake Hansen for being here Tomork, obviously to all
of you for listening. We'll see you tomorrow and as always,
go Texans.
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