June 11, 2025 • 47 mins
Nick Chubb is a Texan, his fellow running back Dare Ogunbowale joined the fun in studio, and the Texans Radio Crew broke down what they saw at the second day of minicamp.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Wednesday. Everybody welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Last day of Mini Caamp, last day of the off
season on the field. There will be a nice little
family barbecue for the guys tomorrow and then it's the desert.
Welcome into Texas All Access with John Harris and Mark Vandermier,
the voice of the Texans.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Last day of Mini Caamp. Good to see the team
for a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We went inside because we got a little rain this afternoon.
That was this morning, I should say, and that got
got a little ugly, but inside some good things.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Your thoughts welcome in. How you doing doing great, Johnny.
Very competitive practice today. A lot of situations stuff, a
lot of red zone than late game field goal situation,
a lot of learning on the fly.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ye. A lot of.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Different issues came up that they will address and some
handled well. Some I'm sure they would want to handle differently,
but that's what this is all about. And it's great.
It's iron sharp AND's iron like. Dimiko Ryan says, he
got both sides making plays. It's beautiful. Great to see
Cji there throwing. Day two of him throwing in this offseason,
(01:04):
and I loved it all. I really did. I mean,
I know, he saidly, I am the voice of the Texans,
but this is great to see so many different players
out there make it plays. How deep this team is,
all phases, special teams included, and they really have a
lot of potential here. They just have to go out
and do it now, don't they.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's yes, And I think one of the things I've heard,
I think it was maybe Brady says it said this,
you can't get bored with the basics. And I think
the city of Houston, Texas fans, you and I and
all of us that follow his team. I want to
(01:46):
avoid that tendency of all right, let's just get to
the playoffs, because that's really where you know that season
will be fine. Let's just get to the playoffs and
then you know, we win a couple of games to
get the AFC Championship game. I think this team is
going to be really fun to watch every time it
steps on a field.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think the talent level. I think the depth at
each of the positions. Even when we went into the
thing about when the off season started, so it's a
few weeks before the draft, think about what they did
in the draft, what we've seen in many camp boutiers
what they've done with other signings. I eat Nick Chubb
(02:21):
the other day and you start looking at Okay, we
thought maybe there was an issue with the receiver going
into the office. They're like, all right, you got Nico Collins, bo,
you're bringing digs back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We don't know about Tank.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, we had a Christian Kirk yep, draft, jayde Higgins,
Jalen Noell signed, Justin Watson. Seeing some significant increases in
Xavier Hutchinson and John Metch and you're like, oh, okay,
receiver kind of fun, all right, yeah, running back? You know,
Joe a little dinged up, don't know what's going on.
Damien he'd participated in in the office.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He's the other day. Just to share this with the listeners.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
There's no they're giving them to us to interview you
if it's life threatening, as Bill O'Brien used to say,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, but depth of running back.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Then you add Nick Chubb to the mix, You add
Woody Marx to the mix. Meanwhile, you bring back the
entire running back room from last year, and you get
back British Brooks after the twenty A cl.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That he suffered.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Man, Okay, you got depth that position, man, that's gonna
end up being a really tough cut, you know, tight end.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You bring Luke lasche in.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You saw the growth of Kate Stover.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My god, we'd be here all day for two or
three different shows, all the different changes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And things that we've seen on the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
One note on that quickly today I'm looking at it
was a weird situation the last couple of days because
when they go to team and that's eleven on eleven. Yep,
they put the two's for lack of a better way
of describing, but what you would perceive to be the
second layer of the depth chart because CJ wasn't out
there with them, right, they put them on the field first,
and then they go to the ones. But the line
(03:59):
they put the twos, especially today, I thought I could
see this being the starting offensive line, and then they
put the ones out there, completely different line, and I
thought I could see this being the starting offensive line,
and all of a sudden, wait a minute, are you
deeper than your thought on the offensive line. I'm not
saying it's all world, everybody's going to the Pro Bowl,
but it looked solid both units they had out there.
(04:22):
Ella everybody's got flaws. I'm not here to pine in
the sky this thing, but I think that this is
going to be a little bit better than a lot
of people originally thought.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
With the way they're constructing it.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I'm not sure if they know where they're going to
be in September, but look, this is what training camp
is all about.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sorted out. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
The defensive line walked over during special teams near us
to work out. Yeah, and they were just working some
chalkboard stuff, just walk through stuff on the field, Yeah, through.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The garbage cans and things like that. Couldn't take my
eyes off it. Yeah, it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I could not take my eyes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Schematic stuff of what they can do.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It blew me away and I just went, WHOA, that's
that could be really fun. Then you get the linebacker
and then today, if there were some guys that to
me stood out today, EJ. Speed stood out today. EJ
made a number of nice plays today. And you start
(05:23):
thinking about all right, when you get Henry and Christian
back and you add to a zas Nick Neeman and EJ.
Speed and Jake Hansen holy Jamal Hill, I mean, okay,
all right, we're a guy's gonna Then you think about
the secondary, and I mean, Kamari might have been the
MVP of the off season.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Like in practice, he was unbelievable. He looks like a
pro bowler. He looks like a pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He looks like he completely belongs.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They kept coming after him and he's just like, nope,
And it's all kinds of stuff. It's being in a
guy's hip pocket, not gonna pass in the air away.
Then it's being in coverage, guy gets his hands on it,
he reaches in, he rips it out. Then it's they
just won't throw at him at times because he's in
such great position it And the thing about it is,
(06:11):
it feels like the offense has had those moments too,
especially since CJ, you know, this week, since CJ started throwing, uh,
you know today, and we thought about like controlling everybody
a little bit, saying that a Texas quarterback, you know,
sat out of practice today and didn't throw, just to
see what people would say. Man, it was Davis today.
Davis did not did not throw. But Keen Slovas has
(06:32):
done some good things.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And so you look at all these positions and you're like, god, dang,
how are we gonna get down to fifty three?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And then what's the practice squad look like?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I know you're gonna have to and I know
in the end you kind of can figure out.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I just think it's gonna be this. I think it's
gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But man, how do you divvy up the reps on
the defensive line?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, how do you even go about doing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I think the reps are one thing. It's who's on it?
Right we do you have who's on it? They're all
going to rotate, and sometimes it's really noticeable because you
have Will and Daniel in there and all of a
sudden they're not in there, but you're seeing Barnett make
a play or by Taylor. Maybe Darryl Taylor is going
to make a play once we get to the regular season,
and who knows who else. We still have Dylan Horton
(07:16):
on this team. You have Solomon Byrd who you drafted
last year. We talked to him this week and it's
hard to write him off going into year two. Starting
to get it a little bit. They've got a lot
of options there. And look, you're gonna go through six
weeks of camp. They're gonna be injuries, you're going to
thin out or get a little thinner at the very
least in certain spots, and you just hope that doesn't
(07:38):
become too much of a problem. But we'll be here
to talk about it all because you and I are
going to be live on the field every morning of
training camps. Start things off weekdays on sports Radio six ten,
eight to eleven or eight to ten rather, and then
we'll take eleven tooth to let us yeah, and then
we'll still have the evening show and we'll just go
through it all as it happens in real time. Three
(07:59):
pre season games open up against the Rams. Take it
from there. But training camp is a grind. It's very hard.
It's six weeks, it's extensive. It's well, it's not really
two a days, it's one a day, but it feels
like two a day's because they do other walk through
things and meetings and they're here all day long.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It's the modern version of that.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It's just all day long of a lot of activity
and you've got the one hundred degree heat along with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Okay, you ready for twenty questions with Mark Vanamir.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let's go Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Question number one very simply put CJ stroud these two days.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
In mini camp seeing him throw.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
How much better does that make you feel going into
the desert this break before we go off to training.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I never felt bad about his situation, not throwing, whatever
he was doing, because he was out there learning the offense,
and I felt fine. I know he's a really talented quarterback.
He's gonna be great, He's gonna be fine six weeks
of camp. Like I said, I never worried about it,
but it was nice to see. It was really nice
to see because I didn't want to have to answer
questions about it for six weeks. That was that was
(08:59):
my big concerned just listening to all the chatter.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
About is gonna be okay?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well he's fine, So that was important to me from
that standpoint.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was never worried personally. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's kind of like the nat that was fly around
in this room Ebery now and again. You get up
in your ear now and again, and it's annoying when
that happens, but it was not there all the time,
but you just wanted it to go away, and CJ
put that away.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Question two, what do you think Nick Chubb has left
and if everybody is healthy in the running back room,
how do you think that all fits together?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Be it roster and playing to see?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Everyone talks about Darry, but the Dar a role is
a role, right, It's not like Chubb can become Darry.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I don't think anybody you know.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
People want to say, well, what he marks is the
next Dar. I don't know that anybody can be the
next Darry, and perhaps all the Mars can be, but
you gotta do it. You got to prove it. And
he's so reliable, is so knowledgeable and effective. And look,
no one's getting any younger, especially running backs, right, so
maybe it's time, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Think it is yet.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So we'll see how that plays out. But I feel
really good about the running back situation. All healthy, Johnny,
somebody's getting traded. I think it's everybody's healthy. Somebody might
get traded because I don't know if you can afford
to keep everybody. But we'll see again, that's another we'll see.
I hate to be that way, but it's always like that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Life is like that.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
We'll see what happens when we get there. We're not
at that bridge yet. We got to cross it when
we get there. What you got to tell you about Chubb? Oh,
I think it's gonna be at least at least good. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know about twenty twenty two three, right, you know,
pre injury three good, But I think good.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think I think very good about it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And maybe that's just my Texans, my Texans bias showing
in a sentence.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But I just watching you move around. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He hasn't done a whole lot in team yet, He's still.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Kind of learning everything.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And you know, in Ota is in mini camps, you
want to make sure that you get guys that you know,
I have been there and may or may not have
to play a role offensively. I think getting them some
reps and just teaching him along the way and kind
of just easing him in. Getting him here was just
was a big deal. So I just feel good about
(11:16):
what he brings and just knowing that, you know, he's
now two years removed or close to two years removed
from the knee injury, and I don't know how much
the foot injury actually will will impact him. I hope
it doesn't, but never had foot injury, so I don't
know how that I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's a son of a bug. But I just I
feel good. I'm like, I think you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Said it best, Like I think the biggest concern here though,
is staying healthy. He can be healthy, but can he
stay healthy for long enough to be effective for your
football team? And that would go for whoever he's playing for,
but he happens to play here in Houston. I go
back to Amn Green when you sign him on Green, Now,
a Mon Green was a high price free agent.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It wasn't like Nick Chubb. You're getting Nick chubbed a
deal here.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is a very low risk thing for the organization
at the time of Man Green two thousand and seven
was a high risk deal. And they're both four time
Pro bowlers coming in.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Both guys. Now.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The thing about a Mon Green it was he couldn't
stay healthy. And a Mon Green healthy debut against Kansas
City look great against Carolina for a moment or two,
looked really good. Then he got banged up and his
appearances thinned out dramatically. With Chubb, you might have something
similar where, oh my gosh, he looks really good and
then he gets hurt again. You just don't want to
see that. And I know that can happen to anybody.
(12:29):
But that's the big thing here. Can you maintain your
health after having numerous injuries.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
To be able to effectively run the ball better than
the last couple of years. I feel like that is
something they're going to be able to do. And watching
I only got through about half of his carries from
last year. He had one hundred and two carries and
I was going through watching him yesterday and as I'm
(12:55):
watching him, I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's hard to get out of your head.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, this is a guy coming off of a devastating
knee injury. But as I'm watching him, I'm like, this
guy's still freaking effective. There's a fifteen yard run against
the Ravens, just tempoed, beautifully, good cut, explosive.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To get to the secondary.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And now once you get to the secondary, there are
a lot of secondary guys that aren't gonna want to.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Tackle Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I'm like, he now plays for the Texans and
that's damn good.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, they's a situation today where it was third and
two at the twelve. Yeah, they were in red zone
and you me, Robert Hensley, we were all watching practice
and I said, look, you're not gonna run the ball here,
because it's it's no pads, you're gonna throw it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is a situation, but in a real situation.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You're probably gonna run.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You might run the ball there.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Especially if if you have an effective healthy Nick Chubb
or Mixing Pierce.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Let's go ahead, let's try one.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We'll go forward on fourth that or we might not,
but on third and short, we might run the ball here.
And there were numerous other situations today where I thought
they could run the ball. They had a field goal
down to time running out, yep, and they got a
big completion and it was about a minute left, and
you're about at the thirty eight or something like that,
(14:16):
thirty seven, And I thought, this is a run the
ball situation right here where you would get a game
because the opponent had a time out. So in a game,
you'd hammer that you guys, burn your time out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Now, second down.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
We know we got fair baron to take the lead,
but we want to get it a little closer. But
we're going to make you burn that time out just
so you don't have any time less, mister Mahomes or
whoever's on the other side. So they weren't doing that
and today I thought, man, Nick chubbing a third and
two at the twelve, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Side up for some of that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let me throw you, let me throw your curve ball.
This is always for however long and part of this.
You know, we're all obviously a result of all of
our previous experiences in life. And when I I a
long long time ago, when I did coach, I didn't
have the most talented team. So I wanted my most
talented guys out on the field, even if that didn't
(15:10):
always look right. In a sense that my two running
backs are two of my best players on the.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Team, I gotta get them on the field, right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What about a package that includes both Mixing and Chubb
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know you love these things.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I loved doing something you were talking about that with
Pierce last year.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, and Mixing.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I see what you're saying, and maybe Nick Keley decides
to do it. But so many coaches want those roles
fulfilled and by the role players. I know, you know,
and I thought this way about Pierce being a possible
third downback. We talk about competition for Dari what about
Pierce himself? Can you pick up the blitz? You know
he can catch the football. He's a good receiver of
the football. I sound like Red Cosell, thrower up the football.
(15:55):
But he talked about that with us. Damien did about
just playing catch. Yeah, you know, playing catch, play catch
on the strings. One of the first things he learned,
one of the most basic things.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But I just I remember Reggie and Lendale at USC
in two thousand and five, Like, get him both on
the field, man, Yeah, like some nothing you think about, yeah, exactly,
just give them something a different look. So I've always
been a proponent of that, and that's a that's a.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Good way to get to them on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The number two wide receiver in catches in twenty twenty
five is going.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
To be wide receiver. You're saying, not tight end. Wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Can't be Schultz, KB Schultz, can't be Stover, can't be
l can't be the tight answer running backs. The number
two leading wide receiver in catches in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Is till further notice, I'm gonna say Kirkay, it's Nico
and Kirk. Kirk's going to receive a lot of balls. Okay, Now,
maybe Jalen Knowl rises up and maybe there's unbelievable rookie
performance here in potential and maybe there's an injury.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know, but right now, on paper, it's got
to be Kirk.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Kirk's gonna get a lot of looks out of the slot,
a lot of first down ty catches where hey, it's
second and four, let's just go ahead throw it to Kirk,
reload here, and then see what happens on the next
set of downs.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So I like Kirk being number two in receptions.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Who has more catches Nico Collins or the Cyclones.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I'm gonna say Nico Collins has more catches than the
Cyclones combined. Yeah, I do, because it's gonna be hard
for the Cyclones to all get those reps to add
up to Nico's one hundred catches.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Johnnyep So, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Higgins could catch thirty five balls, but maybe ten of
them are explosives.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And we're talking about Higgins a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But it's not like there's this incredibly high volume of
receptions that could happen. It's year one. It's year one, Higgins,
so we'll see it. Noel has someone.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
What DeAndre have year won pop fifty, like fifty catches.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I'm gonna go back and look, you still let Andre
Johnson on this team obviously, right, you're just catching a
lot of balls.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So, and that was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
They were thrown a lot because they were down a lot,
But then again, they weren't really throwing it as well
as they wanted to because Shab was picked six and
then case Keenum comes in and it's just not what
you want it to be.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I think it was fifty all right.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Would you take fifty catches for Jayden Higgins in year one?
Right now you're getting fifty catches from Jadan Higgins over
what is behind door number two?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The number one is Jaden Higgins catching fifty balls, you know,
no more than that, he's catching fifty passes.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Absolutely taking the fifty. I'm not looking back from the
fifty receptions. In fact, I just said I think it's
like thirty five forty. Yeah, you know, and I'd love
it to be more. People are listening thinking, come on,
it's got to be more. Man, No, it does not
have to be more. Hop was fifty two is firsty
by the way, okay, which tight end leads the Texas
and receptions.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But you know, Schultz has had some issues healthy. You
know what we're said all off season?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What have I said all off season?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Stover?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think this is the year Stover breaks out.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, and I'm a Stover fan club member myself, so
I could see it. And Demko specifically citing his route
running after practice yesterday, talking about how at the top
of the route he's very crisp. I'm paraphrasing here. You
could see it. You could see it happening, a changing
of the guard, if you will. And Schultz still being effective.
But Stover, you know, running that HVAC type stuff and
(19:19):
just getting a lot of receptions. I think it's going
to be close, but I would still say Schultz from
where we are right now, early June, you know, prior
to training camp.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, next question, will the Texans carry a true fullback?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I e. Yakub Johnson. That's a great one. I'm going
to say more likely not. Yakub is definitely intriguing. I
like him, you know, you and I love this kiddies.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He was fun to I can't wait to play an interview.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is so good poster boy for NFL global expansion. That's right.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
German kid played for the Stuttgart Scorpions.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Who he's now a bomb part.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Of Yes, I need a shirt I want to dry
fit that says Stuttguard Scorpions on it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I got to look up that lot.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I will wear that all day, every day. That's I mean.
He had one handed ketches today.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
When the mcnaies were brainstorming about naming the team back
in two thoy nineteen ninety nine, Scorpions did Scorpions. Of
course it didn't, but Scorpions.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
What were the finalists back then?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think it was the Toros. The Apollos came up, Yeah,
I remember that. I know the Stallions were floated out there.
I don't know how deep it got with the Stallions.
I don't like the Stallions. The Stallions to me, sounds
a little like USFL Birmingham Stallions.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know. Yeah, the Apollos. It's not bad, not bad.
It's better than the commanders. I don't like the commanders.
I don't like commanders at all. Now I don't like
commanders at all.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Wait, what was the It was the red well, so
it was Redskins, but it was the Red hat not
the Red Hawks, because that's Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What was the air Group, the the bottle. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I remember when the name was first Red Tails, Red Tails,
red t because everybody's like Redtails and they're kind of
freaked out and they're like, oh, it's an homage to
to the Aerial Group, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh, I was fine with that. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They want commanders, so they could have that pig.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Hail to the Red Tails.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
The song would still six ale to the commanders.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It doesn't work. That's exactly right, Okay, next question.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right, the over under for kickoff return touchdowns in
twenty twenty five is one?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
The one is the proper number to set. I think
they get at least one over under. I'm gonna go over. Okay,
I had to pick one. You say you gotta pick one,
right yet? Sit at one? Yeah, that's the number. Okay,
you got So if it's a half, I'm going over
for sure. But at one, I'll still go over. I'll
still go over. Okay, and say they'll get two. Now
that's really putting it out there, but here's my rationale.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
There are going to be so many kickoff returns this year.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Teams are not going to be willing to put the
ball at the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That automatic. No, they won't be There's no way, no way.
And the evolution of this game.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Johnny used to kick off and get the touch back
at the twenty. Then it became the twenty five, and
I thought that was radical because now all these drives
are seventy five yard touchdown drive. Then it last year
was seventy yard touchdown drive because you're getting it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
At the thirty.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Now it's a sixty five yard field, let's basically quote
a short field.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Almost. I'm not down with it. I want to kick
that ball off.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We've seen Fairbarn practicing his kickoffs to get him into
the landing zone between the goal line and the twenty
yep and hopping really weird and hoping that the opponent
gets discombobulated on the return because you know you need
to get this ball returned, but you want to stuff them.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So think about it this way.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
How many kickoff returns did we have last year? Kickoff
returns period? In seventeen regular season games? How many kickoff
returns I'm gonna say thirty under twenty three, that's it.
We had twenty three returns. Now, geez, let's say in
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a game, how many a game? Anywhere between three to five? Right,
typically kickoffs? Yeah, right, about three to five? Right, I
figured maybe two per game. A little less than that.
I figured thirty just not looking at it. Yeah, but
you're telling me it's less than that, but it's twenty three.
But let's think about this. How many times does the
team kickoff in a game? It's definitely one, you know that.
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And there's a feeld goal here, kick there. There's probably
how many kickoffs in the game?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Four or five? Okay, so what the middles go? Four?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So four for seventeen games just on average, Yeah, sixty eight, right,
So you're tripling pretty much the number of kick returns
that you would have.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Well, if you had twenty three, let's see, you don't
do it all the time, even doubling it. Doubling it
gives you that kind of opportunity because the year before
Pierce had won yep for a touchdown. So that was
with the ball going not to the it was to
the thirty right, thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The dynamic kickoff return last year was the dynamic kickoff return.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
He had an eighty yard kickoff return last year. He
only had nine kickoff returns. Pierce did nine. However, and
this this is something to consider when we're talking about
running back depth chart. All that Damien averaged thirty eight
yards kickoff return in nine tries.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Nine eighty yards get it, go the eighty does.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But even if you go eight.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
For, let's say you go eight for take the eighty
out two fifty nine, you're still talking about thirty two
to thirty three yards kickoff return.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You can see why the league wants it every time
that ball's in play, especially in that situation you're thinking,
you know, if you're on kick coverage, get them, get them.
Oh no, I'm stressed. Right if you're or the returning team, right,
you're just hoping that he breaks it. It's another play
of action in this league, in this great game we love.
So I understand them wanting to do it. The injuries
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are gonna increase also because it just it's not the
math of it all. And will that detract them from
continuing with this rule?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And that's that I think that is the number one
question with it.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But in twenty three returns, Damien had an eighty yard er,
So you feel like, all right, if you go to
just double it or get the fifty returns. Maybe that
becomes one of those, becomes a kickoff return another one.
I find it fascinating just watching the kickoffs today and
watching Kayimi adapt his kickoff format if you will, It's
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not they're not high booming.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I need air.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I need to get this thing up in the in
the air. This thing is I'm kicking. I'm kicking not
warm burners, but I'm kicking line drives as best I can.
And that thing is gonna land into twenty and that
is gonna be really real different. I'm gonna tell you
one thing on the kickoff returns that teams are probably
gonna be looking for is somebody who played baseball. Somebody
who play baseball that fielded grounders, knows how to field
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the ball, weird hops, things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Those guys are gonna be super valuable in those kicks.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Somebody from the Dominican Republic, perhaps because I'm telling you,
I was talking to Kevin Bess about this and he said, Man,
some of these guys from the dr from Venezuela, places
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
They can field like nobody's businesses. I'm just right. I mean, like,
maybe you could get somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But you're gonna have to have somebody back there that's
like that, have.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
To practice like that.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I think fair Bear still will kick some high booming
kicks and try to get it inside the five.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
He'll mix it up. I think that's the whole idea here.
But I know what you want it hot.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't think you want the high kicks because that
doesn't even do anything for you. And you got your
guys sitting there standing and they're waiting for the ball
to come down. Invariably as the ball is up in
the gear that much those guys gotta wait that much longer,
somebody's gonna jump.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's gonna be five yards against you.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So just kick a line drive, get him a good rhythm,
and get them out of there every time.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Virtually, it's gonna be a line of drive.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
If Kaimie can do it, and prove he can do that,
which that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To the landing zone is from that angle.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
From that angle, it's not the thing about this.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It's like your line driving, and it's got to bounce
inside the twenty. It's harder than to boom it high
and bounce it inside the twenty because it's like shooting
a basketball flat versus the arc on the shot.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You want the arc on the shot.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You want the arc to enable yourself to get it
into the land that landing zoner inside the tent.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
We'll talk about a lot about this because this is
a definite facet of the game where teams are gonna
make hay or not.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Field position is so crucial.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well to that end, and you you made you you
made the comment as we were standing there. You got
to the Texas two thousand and two when they opened
up a touch back in two thousand and two went
to what yard lock twenty a touch back now typically
a touch back in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Touchback now goes out to the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's great, that's fifteen yards. That is wild.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean you just think about that, if kin, I mean,
think about our defense against I don't know, the Chiefs,
and you're playing the Chiefs and Kymie hits a ball
six inches deeper than he wants, They take a knee,
they get the ball, and Mahomes gets it at the
thirty five versus you put that thing, it hits the
grass and goes through the end zone. Now all of
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a sudden he starts at the twenty right, and it
changes everything.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You miss and hit too early.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
He's got it at the forty right right right, you
miss and it just bounces in and they down it
in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He gets it at the thirty five.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's it is a I think special teams have They've
always obviously been important.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
If he bounces it in the landing zone first, then
he gets it at the twenty. But if he bounces
it in the end zone first and right down right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And even and if he misses something, if you hit,
try and hit too much of line drive, you hit
the ball at the twenty five, yeah, you know, as
you're trying to hit kind of a knuckleball line drive thing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ball's dead ball to forty geez.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean, it can change everything everything. It's just added
another unique and different situation in the game. Well, what
you know, I love I love all the you know
the time at the end of you know games, we
always talk about that. That's always the fun part of
a game when there's a break any action late in
the game. But we're all trying to figure out, Okay,
here's what they got to do. We got two timeouts.
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You got this today. They were working those situations at
the end of practice and yeah, I don't want to
say in the cloak of darkness, but it wasn't in
front of seventy five eighty thousand fans. You know, they
can make their mistakes, they could get it right. It
doesn't matter, but they at least get the chance to
work on it. And who knows whether it's that situation
is gonna gonna pop up. In fact, our next guest
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discusses something that the Texans had worked on for four
years and hadn't pulled it out until December fifteenth, twenty
twenty four, when the played.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
The Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Daria Gale is gonna join us next right here at
Texans All Access TEP. But everybody walking back to Wednesday,
they should have Texans All Access from that Texans a
radio studio. I am John Harris football and a sideline reporter,
and one happened the lab crew should have in a
lab later this week.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Drew's back this week, so we'll try to knock.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Out it in the lab. Also, I would imagine I'm
one of a handful of a few, maybe many of
the charter members of the Daria Goomballe fan Club. Daria
is one of those guys when you get to the
offseason and everybody talks about what the Texans should do.
I think Darry's one of those guys. Well, you know,
move on from Dara. You know you don't need dark,
(30:41):
Yeah you do. Daria is He's special man. He is
a different kind of guy because he had so much
on special teams. He's really good as a third down back.
He's such a great leader, He's kind of seen it all.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
This interview we had a chance to do with that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We dove into a lot of different things with him,
but I thought it was I asked a question of
a lot of guys of this, and I think Darry
had one of the best answers. But I essentially asked
him nine years into the league. Dary Goombwale sits down
with rookie Darya Gumbwale. What advice, what one piece of
advice would you give to rookie Darry Gumbwale. And I
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thought his answer was absolutely dead on perfect, And it's
an answer that I think a lot of people would
be advised in the right way to heat for whatever
they're dealing with and you'll hear the answer, and it's
absolutely awesome because I remember twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I remember those practices.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I remember the the just constant barrage of hey do this,
Hey do that, Hey, you're not good enough. I mean,
Dary hits on all of that in this interview and
then some let's get to it, Mark and I sat
down with the man himself, Daria Goombwallee.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
All he does is make plays. Dar. How's it going,
Dara man Um doing great? You know.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I was writing a little piece about OTAs and thinking
about you, you know, and I saw a little highlight
clip of the Buffalo game last year and you had
that big first down late where you slid the clock
keeps rolling.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I know we didn't win it on that drive.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But then you had the little quick short pass and
get down and bang kick the field goal, go away
and obviously winner against Jacksonville. We can name a ton
of them, but you take a lot of pride being
able to show up for the big moments and the
little moments.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Absolutely, man, this stage of my career, you know, being
able to kind of directly be a part of winning
games just and like you said, in those situations you
mentioned at the end of games. You know, it's always
special for me, man, So it's definitely something I take
pride in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So this is year my Matthews. Year nine, Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Year nine.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay, take me back to twenty seventeen. Is a rookie
twenty twenty five and year nine. What one piece of
advice would you give rookie dare to get you through
to year nine? What would you look back and go
a man as a rookie. I wish I'd have known this. Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I probably would just say, bro, just just know that
I was good enough, you know, my rookie year man.
We we had, we had some good players. I was
drafted with another running back, my boy Deontae, and it
was just a lot of doubt, you know what I'm saying,
just the way I didn't know the way the NFL
worked and the way depth charts worked and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So it was just a lot of a lot of
confidence I lost.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
And I feel like it might have set me back
a year or so just because I wasn't playing like myself.
You know, I was trying to kind of fit this
mode that I thought I had.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
To be, you know, to be in the league.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
And then as obviously, year two, year three come along,
and I started realizing I'm good enough, you know, and
I feel like my rookie year could have gone a
little differently if I just knew from the beginning that
I was good enough. Looking back, now, I know I'm
good enough and I've been able to make a career
out of it.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
But how important it is fit and a proper role,
an appropriate role, if you will.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
It's huge issue in this league is huge, you know,
and then are so big, guys are so good, So
you just got to be able to find find a role,
find with your coaches what your team needs you to be,
and then be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It's one thing to have a role, but obviously you
got to be able to do that too. So I'm
being able to, like you said, make those plays that
I've been able to make throughout my career.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Help me out, Okay, I want to talk to you
about one of those case.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We had MJ in a little bit earlier today and
we were talking to him about this.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Fake punt Miami.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Because you've made plays and all Mark said, you may
plays in all different realms, So fake punt against Miami.
Take us through that play because everybody was shocked, and
it sounded like from what MJ said, you guys were
shocked in a huddle what he called it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So, the crazy thing about our punt team is I'm
a third down bag, you know, so punt teams on
the sideline on third down talking it through. I'm on
the field because it's third down. So Weeks comes out
for fourth down, we don't get the first down. Weeks
comes out for fourth down. He's like, run the fake.
I'm like, like, we've had this fake in since twenty two.
We're not running this fake. MJ's like, hey, we're running
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the fake. I'm like, oh, we're running the fake like
it's time because they're telling me. Frank didn't tell me.
They're coming on the field telling me. So I'm like,
let's do it, you know, and we've practiced it. We'
we drilled it numerous times, being MJ of Weeks to MJ,
the MJ to me, so we we knew we'd be
successful with it. But just the fact that Frank dialed
it up in that moment was dope, man, and being
able to get to get the big playoff of.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
It made it not as pretty.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You know, hit the hit the ground, the ball came out,
So couldn't celebrate as much as I wanted to because
we had to make sure we have the review. But no,
it was a good vibe, bro. Everybody was on the
sideline having a good time after that. Frank Frank definitely dialed.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Up, Daria. I feel like we asked you this every year.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But when I look at young backs coming into the league,
the first thing I think of, Well, one of the
first things is past protection. Are you good at it?
When did you become good at it? Were you good
at it right away? And that had to be one
of those things you realized, you know what, I'm good enough,
but I've got to.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Be good enough to do this for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I'll say from a mental standpoint, in college coach coach Christ,
Paul Christ, he had a very NFL Pro style offense
when it came to the passing games, so it was
a lot of pass protection, a lot of.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Double reeds, kind of like how we have to do now.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
And then from a physical standpoint, I really had a
couple of mentors throughout my career. The quiz Rogers, my boy, Yeah,
Houston guy too, exactly. We were in Tampa together. He
showed me the importance of of just being a good
pass protector and technique and stuff. I mean, granted, he's
a lot shorter than most running backs, so he already
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had that natural leverage, but just being able to have
that technique consistently, It's something that I learned from Quiz
and then Carlos High when I was in Jacksonville, another
guy that played with the Texas. He just showed me
how how physical you got to be with these linebackers
when you've pass protected and protecting quarterbacks. So I would
say it was a combination of a bunch of things
that kind of got me to be become a pretty
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proficient pass protector. But I would definitely say those mentors
helped me a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Quiz and Kwan Man there was bad and they went
to my high school and their uncle is one of
my best friends.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
So I've been watching them for a long time. No
Quiz with it you now.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Shout out to Kwan too. Shout out to Cluis and
c bro Man.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
He was he was something else you mentioned something earlier, Dar,
I want to ask you about how many players over
the years you said we've been in this league going
on year nine, how many players have probably lost opportunities,
lost jobs, not because they weren't good players, but they
just had seriously lost their confidence.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I mean, it's countless. It's got to be countless, man.
It's it's a it's a tough job, man. And they
tell you, they say sports professional sports ninety mental, ten
percent physical. I mean that I don't know the correct
stats on that, but I mean it's crazy how mental
this game is, man.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And just being able.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
To have that confidence in yourself and know who you are,
bro is something that is essential.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
And then like you said, it's a lot of guys
aren't able to find that. You know, it's even if
they're they're Starr Kyleie is your big big player coming
out of high school.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
I mean when you get to the league, everybody's like that.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
So it's you kind of you kind of can find
find ways to get lost. But just being able to
stay ground and having the right people around you. Man,
It's been huge for me just having my family and
friends around me, then keeping keeping me on the right
track with that, and it's been a blessing man, being
able to do what I've been able to do.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I got a question about family in a moment, but
I've got a bigger question about this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Offense and what it's gonna be. Like, what are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Darra KALs just got us, He's got us dialed in.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I love the way he's installed the playbook.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I mean, starting there is just a guy like me
who prides himself from picking up playbooks quickly. I mean
he's he's made it very easy for us to learn
this offense, and so that's been big for us. But
I mean there's there's a big plays to be had.
Obviously with we've we've always had an explosive offense. One
seven got to the to the team, so we're not
worried about that, but just being able to stay on
track and just the way that that that we needed to,
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you know, these last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
I think we'll be able to do that this year.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
When you look at the running back room, there's a
little there's some season vets like yourself, some young dudes
you talked about Quiz earlier, talking about Carlos Hyde, those
guys you know, pouring into younger, younger you. How important
is it, how important is it for you to kind
of pour back into them because I know there are
some guys that are like, look, I gotta play, I
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gotta keep a job, But how important is it for
you to kind of share what you've learned, So those
guys kind of pay it forward as well.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah, for sure, it's huge, man.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I mean, especially we get a player like Woody Draft Woody,
he's a good guy, definitely wants to to learn, you know,
And that's when you got a guy like that that
wants to learn, I mean, it's I mean, I don't
think there's any VET that doesn't want to help him out,
you know. So it's been good to be with it.
And then even the other young guys, we still got jobs,
We got British and DP is still a young guy
in my eyes. I mean, so it's just we've got
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young guys that are eager to learn, and it's I
definitely am a mentor and me and Joe both help out.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
But we got dB. He's a hell of a coach man.
He makes it.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
He makes it so easy for all of us, so
we really don't have to do too much when it
comes to that. But like I said, I mean, when
when those guys ask a question I mean, I'm always
excited to help him out just because I know what
questions like that are because I ask those same questions
and it's gotten be to my ninth year in the league.
So definitely want to help those guys out so they
can stay in this league as long as possible.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
How often do you insist compare notes on playing so
long and so well as pro athletes.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I mean, that's one thing that's probably the only thing
I got on her right now, is being able to
play longer than her because I mean, I mean, she's
an animal, She's an anamal out there.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
It's it's a blessing to be able to see her.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
And the same thing I was saying with DP, I mean,
it's just I can't believe she's in her seventh year
right now. Man, Like I remember watching on draft day,
watching in the final fours and stuff like that, and
now like I get to watch her and breaking down
the huddle, you know what I'm saying, pumping up her teammates,
leading her teammates. Just seeing her in that leadership roles
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just as a big brother has been amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So what's the off season for you? Min Camp this
week crampon barbecue Thursday. After that, five six weeks off?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
What you got planned?
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
So this weekend I'm going back to Milwaukee, me and
Eric Murray hosting a camp in our hometown. So that's
gonna be dope free camp for the kids. And then
after that just back back here training season, take a
hold of with the Dallas Wings. So I'll be be
course side, course sighted all the home gags during that
break I can, and then get back to Houston, you know,
get back to Houston, get ready for the heat and
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getting my body acclimated to that for training camp.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Make the pitch w n B A back to Houston, right, I.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Would love it. I would love it.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
We deserve we deserve one down here. I mean I
think I think it would do well here, huge city.
Uh yeah, I think it's a no brainer.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, and you got four flags already exactly exactly Yeah,
excellent Sall right, thanks a lot for joining.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Always a pleasure, guys.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
A lot of times i'm out about a lot of
fans will come up to me and say, Hey, is
players such and such as good at guys?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
He sounds like on the radio? Is that guy's good as?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He sounds like I mean, is he as cool a
guy as you would think, And I mean I would
say ninety five percent of the time, I'm like, yeah,
there's maybe been a guy where I'm like, not, really,
those guys aren't on this team. Man. The guys that
we sit out a talk with, they are as good
a guys as you hear through the radio.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And darry Goombwale is exhibit a of all of them.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
He is a better guy than he has a football player,
and he has been a tremendous impactful player since he
got back here in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Darry A Goombalwally.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Okay, a lot going on around the league, Mini camps
taking place, guys talking, some guys in some cases not
saying anything, but still talking. I'm looking at you, Stefan Diggs.
We'll get all into that next we go around the NFL.
Right here in Texans All Access, we go on final
slave with this Wednesday edtion of Texans All Access sim.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
For your Houston Texans Texans up mini camp today as
far as practices go, Tomorrow will be the family barbecue
for the guys, and then they're out, coaches out, so
it gets to be a quiet building for the next
how many ever weeks, except that Metallica is in the building,
so there's that, so it can only be so quiet.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
But you get the point.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Over the next few weeks it'll be sort of quiet,
and then we will start training camp. Still wait on
the information to go public as to when training camp starts.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
My guess is it's somewhere around at twenty.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Fifth ish, me sixth ish, somewhere in that area for
training camp. We know the Texans will practice with the
Panthers here and we'll practice with the Lions there.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
But we'll see what else.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You got the three preseason games at Minnesota home against
Carolina and at Detroit before bye week, and then kicking
it off in LA for a regular season game with
the Rams. It's only the third game regular season in
LA now San Diego twenty thirteen and a few other
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times before that, but in LA twenty seventeen against the
Rams at the Collie and.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Then getting beat by the Rams that was kind of ugly.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Then beat the Chargers of twenty nineteen in the Soccer Stadium,
which is one of my more fun days. Now I'll
remember that was a heck of a game against the Chargers.
In that second half. Jordan Akens were crazy with two
tuddies in that win over the LA Chargers. So this
would be the third regular season game in the history
of the Texans in LA. One in one looking to
go to and one. Well, we got a few weeks
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before we get there. NFL dot Com did a ranking
of their top ten offenses in the NFL. The Texas
will play a handful of these. At number one, this
is as voted on by NFL dot Com Gennaro Gennaro
Felice the Buffalo Bills. I'm not sure that I thought
about the Bills in that way offensively, but you know,
(44:55):
Josh Allen MVP, I get it.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So we played the Bills.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Number two the Tampa Bay Buccaneers played the Bucks. Seen
him a couple of years ago. Number three the Baltimore Ravens.
The Ravens are those three. That's the one offense that
scares me, probably more than the other because of Lamar
Jackson and Derreck Henry.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Number four is Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's to be expected with jayde and Daniels going into
his second season.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
How good he was last year, don't play the Lions there.
Number five.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
They were the number one team, number one offense. Last
year they were ranked the number five. A lot of
losses they have to deal with. Number six is a
little bit surprised Texas will play this team. I think
it's Week nine the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Interesting. Number seven Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Hopefully we play them because that'll be me and wearing
a super Bowl in Sant Clara. Eight.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Packers saw them last year.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I thought we did a pretty good job and even
though the offense couldn't do anything, defense God to be
out there all day. Both backup linebackers played in that
game and still really kind of held the Packers in check.
And if could have hang on, could have hung on
to an interception in the fourth quarter, would have walked
out of there the win either way. Bengals nine don't
see them. We see him see him in the playoffs. Number
ten to Kansas City Chiefs. So they're the top ten
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is according to NFL dot Com. Nick Chubb talked to
the media today, and it's funny because every every year
we get when players go up to the podium, we
get transcripts, and when they send the transcripts, you can
always tell when it's a Demico Ryans. You know he's
(46:20):
been at the podium. You can tell when it's been CJ.
Stroud because you've got these paragraphs. You just look at
the transcripts of the press conference today was Derek Stingly,
Nick Chubb and Daniel Hunter. They don't say anything, say anything.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
They're great.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I love them. I mean the Sting and Daniel or
my dudes, man, I love them. They're great.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And I love talking to Sting because I can get
Staying to talk because I talk football and we talk
ball and he'll he'll talk about that for a while.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
But they both talked with Nick. Chubb was up in
front of the media today.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Asked a number of different questions, but but one he
was asked about was his message to the Browns fans.
He said, I don't know. I'm sure I'll address that
at some point. I'm not ready to do that now,
but it'd be a great message. So you know, he's
got a lot of love for the Browns fans and
another Browns fans have a lot of love for him.
But he was asked a lot about his injuries and
he just said, look, those things are behind me.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I'm ready to go. This is an up and coming team.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
They've really turned it on, so I know I have
a chance to come here and win a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Surrounded by great people. That is true.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Nick Chubb is a great person. Glad he is here.
All right, It's gonna do it for tonight's show. Appreciate
you guys being with me all night. Every forty five
will take you through the rest of the evening. Thank
you so much. We'll be back tomorrow with more on
a Thursday Texas All Access episode.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Seeing that everybody, and as always, go Texans.
Happy Wednesday. Everybody welcome in.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Last day of Mini Caamp, last day of the off
season on the field. There will be a nice little
family barbecue for the guys tomorrow and then it's the desert.
Welcome into Texas All Access with John Harris and Mark Vandermier,
the voice of the Texans.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Last day of Mini Caamp. Good to see the team
for a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We went inside because we got a little rain this afternoon.
That was this morning, I should say, and that got
got a little ugly, but inside some good things.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Your thoughts welcome in. How you doing doing great, Johnny.
Very competitive practice today. A lot of situations stuff, a
lot of red zone than late game field goal situation,
a lot of learning on the fly.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ye. A lot of.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Different issues came up that they will address and some
handled well. Some I'm sure they would want to handle differently,
but that's what this is all about. And it's great.
It's iron sharp AND's iron like. Dimiko Ryan says, he
got both sides making plays. It's beautiful. Great to see
Cji there throwing. Day two of him throwing in this offseason,
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and I loved it all. I really did. I mean,
I know, he saidly, I am the voice of the Texans,
but this is great to see so many different players
out there make it plays. How deep this team is,
all phases, special teams included, and they really have a
lot of potential here. They just have to go out
and do it now, don't they.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's yes, And I think one of the things I've heard,
I think it was maybe Brady says it said this,
you can't get bored with the basics. And I think
the city of Houston, Texas fans, you and I and
all of us that follow his team. I want to
(01:46):
avoid that tendency of all right, let's just get to
the playoffs, because that's really where you know that season
will be fine. Let's just get to the playoffs and
then you know, we win a couple of games to
get the AFC Championship game. I think this team is
going to be really fun to watch every time it
steps on a field.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think the talent level. I think the depth at
each of the positions. Even when we went into the
thing about when the off season started, so it's a
few weeks before the draft, think about what they did
in the draft, what we've seen in many camp boutiers
what they've done with other signings. I eat Nick Chubb
(02:21):
the other day and you start looking at Okay, we
thought maybe there was an issue with the receiver going
into the office. They're like, all right, you got Nico Collins, bo,
you're bringing digs back.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We don't know about Tank.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, we had a Christian Kirk yep, draft, jayde Higgins,
Jalen Noell signed, Justin Watson. Seeing some significant increases in
Xavier Hutchinson and John Metch and you're like, oh, okay,
receiver kind of fun, all right, yeah, running back? You know,
Joe a little dinged up, don't know what's going on.
Damien he'd participated in in the office.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
He's the other day. Just to share this with the listeners.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
There's no they're giving them to us to interview you
if it's life threatening, as Bill O'Brien used to say,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Okay, but depth of running back.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Then you add Nick Chubb to the mix, You add
Woody Marx to the mix. Meanwhile, you bring back the
entire running back room from last year, and you get
back British Brooks after the twenty A cl.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That he suffered.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Man, Okay, you got depth that position, man, that's gonna
end up being a really tough cut, you know, tight end.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
You bring Luke lasche in.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You saw the growth of Kate Stover.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Offensive line.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My god, we'd be here all day for two or
three different shows, all the different changes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
And things that we've seen on the offensive line.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
One note on that quickly today I'm looking at it
was a weird situation the last couple of days because
when they go to team and that's eleven on eleven. Yep,
they put the two's for lack of a better way
of describing, but what you would perceive to be the
second layer of the depth chart because CJ wasn't out
there with them, right, they put them on the field first,
and then they go to the ones. But the line
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they put the twos, especially today, I thought I could
see this being the starting offensive line, and then they
put the ones out there, completely different line, and I
thought I could see this being the starting offensive line,
and all of a sudden, wait a minute, are you
deeper than your thought on the offensive line. I'm not
saying it's all world, everybody's going to the Pro Bowl,
but it looked solid both units they had out there.
(04:22):
Ella everybody's got flaws. I'm not here to pine in
the sky this thing, but I think that this is
going to be a little bit better than a lot
of people originally thought.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
With the way they're constructing it.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I'm not sure if they know where they're going to
be in September, but look, this is what training camp
is all about.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Sorted out. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
The defensive line walked over during special teams near us
to work out. Yeah, and they were just working some
chalkboard stuff, just walk through stuff on the field, Yeah, through.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The garbage cans and things like that. Couldn't take my
eyes off it. Yeah, it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I could not take my eyes.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Schematic stuff of what they can do.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
It blew me away and I just went, WHOA, that's
that could be really fun. Then you get the linebacker
and then today, if there were some guys that to
me stood out today, EJ. Speed stood out today. EJ
made a number of nice plays today. And you start
(05:23):
thinking about all right, when you get Henry and Christian
back and you add to a zas Nick Neeman and EJ.
Speed and Jake Hansen holy Jamal Hill, I mean, okay,
all right, we're a guy's gonna Then you think about
the secondary, and I mean, Kamari might have been the
MVP of the off season.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Like in practice, he was unbelievable. He looks like a
pro bowler. He looks like a pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
He looks like he completely belongs.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They kept coming after him and he's just like, nope,
And it's all kinds of stuff. It's being in a
guy's hip pocket, not gonna pass in the air away.
Then it's being in coverage, guy gets his hands on it,
he reaches in, he rips it out. Then it's they
just won't throw at him at times because he's in
such great position it And the thing about it is,
(06:11):
it feels like the offense has had those moments too,
especially since CJ, you know, this week, since CJ started throwing, uh,
you know today, and we thought about like controlling everybody
a little bit, saying that a Texas quarterback, you know,
sat out of practice today and didn't throw, just to
see what people would say. Man, it was Davis today.
Davis did not did not throw. But Keen Slovas has
(06:32):
done some good things.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And so you look at all these positions and you're like, god, dang,
how are we gonna get down to fifty three?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And then what's the practice squad look like?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And I know you're gonna have to and I know
in the end you kind of can figure out.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I just think it's gonna be this. I think it's
gonna be this.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
But man, how do you divvy up the reps on
the defensive line?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I mean, how do you even go about doing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I think the reps are one thing. It's who's on it?
Right we do you have who's on it? They're all
going to rotate, and sometimes it's really noticeable because you
have Will and Daniel in there and all of a
sudden they're not in there, but you're seeing Barnett make
a play or by Taylor. Maybe Darryl Taylor is going
to make a play once we get to the regular season,
and who knows who else. We still have Dylan Horton
(07:16):
on this team. You have Solomon Byrd who you drafted
last year. We talked to him this week and it's
hard to write him off going into year two. Starting
to get it a little bit. They've got a lot
of options there. And look, you're gonna go through six
weeks of camp. They're gonna be injuries, you're going to
thin out or get a little thinner at the very
least in certain spots, and you just hope that doesn't
(07:38):
become too much of a problem. But we'll be here
to talk about it all because you and I are
going to be live on the field every morning of
training camps. Start things off weekdays on sports Radio six ten,
eight to eleven or eight to ten rather, and then
we'll take eleven tooth to let us yeah, and then
we'll still have the evening show and we'll just go
through it all as it happens in real time. Three
(07:59):
pre season games open up against the Rams. Take it
from there. But training camp is a grind. It's very hard.
It's six weeks, it's extensive. It's well, it's not really
two a days, it's one a day, but it feels
like two a day's because they do other walk through
things and meetings and they're here all day long.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It's the modern version of that.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It's just all day long of a lot of activity
and you've got the one hundred degree heat along with it.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Okay, you ready for twenty questions with Mark Vanamir.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Let's go Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Question number one very simply put CJ stroud these two days.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
In mini camp seeing him throw.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
How much better does that make you feel going into
the desert this break before we go off to training.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I never felt bad about his situation, not throwing, whatever
he was doing, because he was out there learning the offense,
and I felt fine. I know he's a really talented quarterback.
He's gonna be great, He's gonna be fine six weeks
of camp. Like I said, I never worried about it,
but it was nice to see. It was really nice
to see because I didn't want to have to answer
questions about it for six weeks. That was that was
(08:59):
my big concerned just listening to all the chatter.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
About is gonna be okay?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well he's fine, So that was important to me from
that standpoint.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I was never worried personally. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
It's kind of like the nat that was fly around
in this room Ebery now and again. You get up
in your ear now and again, and it's annoying when
that happens, but it was not there all the time,
but you just wanted it to go away, and CJ
put that away.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Question two, what do you think Nick Chubb has left
and if everybody is healthy in the running back room,
how do you think that all fits together?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Be it roster and playing to see?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Everyone talks about Darry, but the Dar a role is
a role, right, It's not like Chubb can become Darry.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I don't think anybody you know.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
People want to say, well, what he marks is the
next Dar. I don't know that anybody can be the
next Darry, and perhaps all the Mars can be, but
you gotta do it. You got to prove it. And
he's so reliable, is so knowledgeable and effective. And look,
no one's getting any younger, especially running backs, right, so
maybe it's time, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Think it is yet.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
So we'll see how that plays out. But I feel
really good about the running back situation. All healthy, Johnny,
somebody's getting traded. I think it's everybody's healthy. Somebody might
get traded because I don't know if you can afford
to keep everybody. But we'll see again, that's another we'll see.
I hate to be that way, but it's always like that.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Life is like that.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
We'll see what happens when we get there. We're not
at that bridge yet. We got to cross it when
we get there. What you got to tell you about Chubb? Oh,
I think it's gonna be at least at least good. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know about twenty twenty two three, right, you know,
pre injury three good, But I think good.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I think I think very good about it.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And maybe that's just my Texans, my Texans bias showing
in a sentence.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But I just watching you move around. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
He hasn't done a whole lot in team yet, He's still.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Kind of learning everything.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And you know, in Ota is in mini camps, you
want to make sure that you get guys that you know,
I have been there and may or may not have
to play a role offensively. I think getting them some
reps and just teaching him along the way and kind
of just easing him in. Getting him here was just
was a big deal. So I just feel good about
(11:16):
what he brings and just knowing that, you know, he's
now two years removed or close to two years removed
from the knee injury, and I don't know how much
the foot injury actually will will impact him. I hope
it doesn't, but never had foot injury, so I don't
know how that I can imagine.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's a son of a bug. But I just I
feel good. I'm like, I think you.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Said it best, Like I think the biggest concern here though,
is staying healthy. He can be healthy, but can he
stay healthy for long enough to be effective for your
football team? And that would go for whoever he's playing for,
but he happens to play here in Houston. I go
back to Amn Green when you sign him on Green, Now,
a Mon Green was a high price free agent.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It wasn't like Nick Chubb. You're getting Nick chubbed a
deal here.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
This is a very low risk thing for the organization
at the time of Man Green two thousand and seven
was a high risk deal. And they're both four time
Pro bowlers coming in.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Both guys. Now.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
The thing about a Mon Green it was he couldn't
stay healthy. And a Mon Green healthy debut against Kansas
City look great against Carolina for a moment or two,
looked really good. Then he got banged up and his
appearances thinned out dramatically. With Chubb, you might have something
similar where, oh my gosh, he looks really good and
then he gets hurt again. You just don't want to
see that. And I know that can happen to anybody.
(12:29):
But that's the big thing here. Can you maintain your
health after having numerous injuries.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think they're going.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
To be able to effectively run the ball better than
the last couple of years. I feel like that is
something they're going to be able to do. And watching
I only got through about half of his carries from
last year. He had one hundred and two carries and
I was going through watching him yesterday and as I'm
(12:55):
watching him, I'm.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
It's hard to get out of your head.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Okay, this is a guy coming off of a devastating
knee injury. But as I'm watching him, I'm like, this
guy's still freaking effective. There's a fifteen yard run against
the Ravens, just tempoed, beautifully, good cut, explosive.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
To get to the secondary.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And now once you get to the secondary, there are
a lot of secondary guys that aren't gonna want to.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Tackle Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I'm like, he now plays for the Texans and
that's damn good.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Well, they's a situation today where it was third and
two at the twelve. Yeah, they were in red zone
and you me, Robert Hensley, we were all watching practice
and I said, look, you're not gonna run the ball here,
because it's it's no pads, you're gonna throw it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
This is a situation, but in a real situation.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
You're probably gonna run.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You might run the ball there.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Especially if if you have an effective healthy Nick Chubb
or Mixing Pierce.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Let's go ahead, let's try one.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
We'll go forward on fourth that or we might not,
but on third and short, we might run the ball here.
And there were numerous other situations today where I thought
they could run the ball. They had a field goal
down to time running out, yep, and they got a
big completion and it was about a minute left, and
you're about at the thirty eight or something like that,
(14:16):
thirty seven, And I thought, this is a run the
ball situation right here where you would get a game
because the opponent had a time out. So in a game,
you'd hammer that you guys, burn your time out.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Now, second down.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
We know we got fair baron to take the lead,
but we want to get it a little closer. But
we're going to make you burn that time out just
so you don't have any time less, mister Mahomes or
whoever's on the other side. So they weren't doing that
and today I thought, man, Nick chubbing a third and
two at the twelve, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Side up for some of that.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Let me throw you, let me throw your curve ball.
This is always for however long and part of this.
You know, we're all obviously a result of all of
our previous experiences in life. And when I I a
long long time ago, when I did coach, I didn't
have the most talented team. So I wanted my most
talented guys out on the field, even if that didn't
(15:10):
always look right. In a sense that my two running
backs are two of my best players on the.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Team, I gotta get them on the field, right.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What about a package that includes both Mixing and Chubb
at the same time.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You know you love these things.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I loved doing something you were talking about that with
Pierce last year.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, and Mixing.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I see what you're saying, and maybe Nick Keley decides
to do it. But so many coaches want those roles
fulfilled and by the role players. I know, you know,
and I thought this way about Pierce being a possible
third downback. We talk about competition for Dari what about
Pierce himself? Can you pick up the blitz? You know
he can catch the football. He's a good receiver of
the football. I sound like Red Cosell, thrower up the football.
(15:55):
But he talked about that with us. Damien did about
just playing catch. Yeah, you know, playing catch, play catch
on the strings. One of the first things he learned,
one of the most basic things.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
But I just I remember Reggie and Lendale at USC
in two thousand and five, Like, get him both on
the field, man, Yeah, like some nothing you think about, yeah, exactly,
just give them something a different look. So I've always
been a proponent of that, and that's a that's a.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Good way to get to them on the field.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The number two wide receiver in catches in twenty twenty
five is going.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
To be wide receiver. You're saying, not tight end. Wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Can't be Schultz, KB Schultz, can't be Stover, can't be
l can't be the tight answer running backs. The number
two leading wide receiver in catches in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Is till further notice, I'm gonna say Kirkay, it's Nico
and Kirk. Kirk's going to receive a lot of balls. Okay, Now,
maybe Jalen Knowl rises up and maybe there's unbelievable rookie
performance here in potential and maybe there's an injury.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I don't know, but right now, on paper, it's got
to be Kirk.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Kirk's gonna get a lot of looks out of the slot,
a lot of first down ty catches where hey, it's
second and four, let's just go ahead throw it to Kirk,
reload here, and then see what happens on the next
set of downs.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So I like Kirk being number two in receptions.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Who has more catches Nico Collins or the Cyclones.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I'm gonna say Nico Collins has more catches than the
Cyclones combined. Yeah, I do, because it's gonna be hard
for the Cyclones to all get those reps to add
up to Nico's one hundred catches.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Johnnyep So, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Higgins could catch thirty five balls, but maybe ten of
them are explosives.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And we're talking about Higgins a lot.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
But it's not like there's this incredibly high volume of
receptions that could happen. It's year one. It's year one, Higgins,
so we'll see it. Noel has someone.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
What DeAndre have year won pop fifty, like fifty catches.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
I'm gonna go back and look, you still let Andre
Johnson on this team obviously, right, you're just catching a
lot of balls.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So, and that was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
They were thrown a lot because they were down a lot,
But then again, they weren't really throwing it as well
as they wanted to because Shab was picked six and
then case Keenum comes in and it's just not what
you want it to be.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, I think it was fifty all right.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Would you take fifty catches for Jayden Higgins in year one?
Right now you're getting fifty catches from Jadan Higgins over
what is behind door number two?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
The number one is Jaden Higgins catching fifty balls, you know,
no more than that, he's catching fifty passes.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Absolutely taking the fifty. I'm not looking back from the
fifty receptions. In fact, I just said I think it's
like thirty five forty. Yeah, you know, and I'd love
it to be more. People are listening thinking, come on,
it's got to be more. Man, No, it does not
have to be more. Hop was fifty two is firsty
by the way, okay, which tight end leads the Texas
and receptions.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
But you know, Schultz has had some issues healthy. You
know what we're said all off season?
Speaker 3 (18:52):
What have I said all off season?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Stover?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think this is the year Stover breaks out.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, and I'm a Stover fan club member myself, so
I could see it. And Demko specifically citing his route
running after practice yesterday, talking about how at the top
of the route he's very crisp. I'm paraphrasing here. You
could see it. You could see it happening, a changing
of the guard, if you will. And Schultz still being effective.
But Stover, you know, running that HVAC type stuff and
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just getting a lot of receptions. I think it's going
to be close, but I would still say Schultz from
where we are right now, early June, you know, prior
to training camp.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Okay, next question, will the Texans carry a true fullback?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I e. Yakub Johnson. That's a great one. I'm going
to say more likely not. Yakub is definitely intriguing. I
like him, you know, you and I love this kiddies.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He was fun to I can't wait to play an interview.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Is so good poster boy for NFL global expansion. That's right.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
German kid played for the Stuttgart Scorpions.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Who he's now a bomb part.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Of Yes, I need a shirt I want to dry
fit that says Stuttguard Scorpions on it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I got to look up that lot.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I will wear that all day, every day. That's I mean.
He had one handed ketches today.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
When the mcnaies were brainstorming about naming the team back
in two thoy nineteen ninety nine, Scorpions did Scorpions. Of
course it didn't, but Scorpions.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
What were the finalists back then?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think it was the Toros. The Apollos came up, Yeah,
I remember that. I know the Stallions were floated out there.
I don't know how deep it got with the Stallions.
I don't like the Stallions. The Stallions to me, sounds
a little like USFL Birmingham Stallions.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know. Yeah, the Apollos. It's not bad, not bad.
It's better than the commanders. I don't like the commanders.
I don't like commanders at all. Now I don't like
commanders at all.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Wait, what was the It was the red well, so
it was Redskins, but it was the Red hat not
the Red Hawks, because that's Miami of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What was the air Group, the the bottle. I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I remember when the name was first Red Tails, Red Tails,
red t because everybody's like Redtails and they're kind of
freaked out and they're like, oh, it's an homage to
to the Aerial Group, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Oh, I was fine with that. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
They want commanders, so they could have that pig.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Hail to the Red Tails.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
The song would still six ale to the commanders.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
It doesn't work. That's exactly right, Okay, next question.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right, the over under for kickoff return touchdowns in
twenty twenty five is one?
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
The one is the proper number to set. I think
they get at least one over under. I'm gonna go over. Okay,
I had to pick one. You say you gotta pick one,
right yet? Sit at one? Yeah, that's the number. Okay,
you got So if it's a half, I'm going over
for sure. But at one, I'll still go over. I'll
still go over. Okay, and say they'll get two. Now
that's really putting it out there, but here's my rationale.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
There are going to be so many kickoff returns this year.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Teams are not going to be willing to put the
ball at the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That automatic. No, they won't be There's no way, no way.
And the evolution of this game.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
Johnny used to kick off and get the touch back
at the twenty. Then it became the twenty five, and
I thought that was radical because now all these drives
are seventy five yard touchdown drive. Then it last year
was seventy yard touchdown drive because you're getting it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
At the thirty.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Now it's a sixty five yard field, let's basically quote
a short field.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Almost. I'm not down with it. I want to kick
that ball off.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We've seen Fairbarn practicing his kickoffs to get him into
the landing zone between the goal line and the twenty
yep and hopping really weird and hoping that the opponent
gets discombobulated on the return because you know you need
to get this ball returned, but you want to stuff them.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Okay, So think about it this way.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
How many kickoff returns did we have last year? Kickoff
returns period? In seventeen regular season games? How many kickoff
returns I'm gonna say thirty under twenty three, that's it.
We had twenty three returns. Now, geez, let's say in
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a game, how many a game? Anywhere between three to five? Right,
typically kickoffs? Yeah, right, about three to five? Right, I
figured maybe two per game. A little less than that.
I figured thirty just not looking at it. Yeah, but
you're telling me it's less than that, but it's twenty three.
But let's think about this. How many times does the
team kickoff in a game? It's definitely one, you know that.
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And there's a feeld goal here, kick there. There's probably
how many kickoffs in the game?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Four or five? Okay, so what the middles go? Four?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
So four for seventeen games just on average, Yeah, sixty eight, right,
So you're tripling pretty much the number of kick returns
that you would have.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Well, if you had twenty three, let's see, you don't
do it all the time, even doubling it. Doubling it
gives you that kind of opportunity because the year before
Pierce had won yep for a touchdown. So that was
with the ball going not to the it was to
the thirty right, thirty.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
The dynamic kickoff return last year was the dynamic kickoff return.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
He had an eighty yard kickoff return last year. He
only had nine kickoff returns. Pierce did nine. However, and
this this is something to consider when we're talking about
running back depth chart. All that Damien averaged thirty eight
yards kickoff return in nine tries.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Nine eighty yards get it, go the eighty does.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But even if you go eight.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
For, let's say you go eight for take the eighty
out two fifty nine, you're still talking about thirty two
to thirty three yards kickoff return.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
You can see why the league wants it every time
that ball's in play, especially in that situation you're thinking,
you know, if you're on kick coverage, get them, get them.
Oh no, I'm stressed. Right if you're or the returning team, right,
you're just hoping that he breaks it. It's another play
of action in this league, in this great game we love.
So I understand them wanting to do it. The injuries
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are gonna increase also because it just it's not the
math of it all. And will that detract them from
continuing with this rule?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And that's that I think that is the number one
question with it.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
But in twenty three returns, Damien had an eighty yard er,
So you feel like, all right, if you go to
just double it or get the fifty returns. Maybe that
becomes one of those, becomes a kickoff return another one.
I find it fascinating just watching the kickoffs today and
watching Kayimi adapt his kickoff format if you will, It's
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not they're not high booming.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I need air.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I need to get this thing up in the in
the air. This thing is I'm kicking. I'm kicking not
warm burners, but I'm kicking line drives as best I can.
And that thing is gonna land into twenty and that
is gonna be really real different. I'm gonna tell you
one thing on the kickoff returns that teams are probably
gonna be looking for is somebody who played baseball. Somebody
who play baseball that fielded grounders, knows how to field
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the ball, weird hops, things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Those guys are gonna be super valuable in those kicks.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Somebody from the Dominican Republic, perhaps because I'm telling you,
I was talking to Kevin Bess about this and he said, Man,
some of these guys from the dr from Venezuela, places
like that.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
They can field like nobody's businesses. I'm just right. I mean, like,
maybe you could get somebody.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
But you're gonna have to have somebody back there that's
like that, have.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
To practice like that.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
I think fair Bear still will kick some high booming
kicks and try to get it inside the five.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
He'll mix it up. I think that's the whole idea here.
But I know what you want it hot.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I don't think you want the high kicks because that
doesn't even do anything for you. And you got your
guys sitting there standing and they're waiting for the ball
to come down. Invariably as the ball is up in
the gear that much those guys gotta wait that much longer,
somebody's gonna jump.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
It's gonna be five yards against you.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
So just kick a line drive, get him a good rhythm,
and get them out of there every time.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Virtually, it's gonna be a line of drive.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
If Kaimie can do it, and prove he can do that,
which that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
To the landing zone is from that angle.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
From that angle, it's not the thing about this.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
It's like your line driving, and it's got to bounce
inside the twenty. It's harder than to boom it high
and bounce it inside the twenty because it's like shooting
a basketball flat versus the arc on the shot.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
You want the arc on the shot.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
You want the arc to enable yourself to get it
into the land that landing zoner inside the tent.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
We'll talk about a lot about this because this is
a definite facet of the game where teams are gonna
make hay or not.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Field position is so crucial.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well to that end, and you you made you you
made the comment as we were standing there. You got
to the Texas two thousand and two when they opened
up a touch back in two thousand and two went
to what yard lock twenty a touch back now typically
a touch back in the end zone.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Touchback now goes out to the thirty five.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's great, that's fifteen yards. That is wild.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean you just think about that, if kin, I mean,
think about our defense against I don't know, the Chiefs,
and you're playing the Chiefs and Kymie hits a ball
six inches deeper than he wants, They take a knee,
they get the ball, and Mahomes gets it at the
thirty five versus you put that thing, it hits the
grass and goes through the end zone. Now all of
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a sudden he starts at the twenty right, and it
changes everything.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You miss and hit too early.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
He's got it at the forty right right right, you
miss and it just bounces in and they down it
in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He gets it at the thirty five.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's it is a I think special teams have They've
always obviously been important.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
If he bounces it in the landing zone first, then
he gets it at the twenty. But if he bounces
it in the end zone first and right down right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And even and if he misses something, if you hit,
try and hit too much of line drive, you hit
the ball at the twenty five, yeah, you know, as
you're trying to hit kind of a knuckleball line drive thing.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Ball's dead ball to forty geez.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I mean, it can change everything everything. It's just added
another unique and different situation in the game. Well, what
you know, I love I love all the you know
the time at the end of you know games, we
always talk about that. That's always the fun part of
a game when there's a break any action late in
the game. But we're all trying to figure out, Okay,
here's what they got to do. We got two timeouts.
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You got this today. They were working those situations at
the end of practice and yeah, I don't want to
say in the cloak of darkness, but it wasn't in
front of seventy five eighty thousand fans. You know, they
can make their mistakes, they could get it right. It
doesn't matter, but they at least get the chance to
work on it. And who knows whether it's that situation
is gonna gonna pop up. In fact, our next guest
(29:48):
discusses something that the Texans had worked on for four
years and hadn't pulled it out until December fifteenth, twenty
twenty four, when the played.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
The Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Daria Gale is gonna join us next right here at
Texans All Access TEP. But everybody walking back to Wednesday,
they should have Texans All Access from that Texans a
radio studio. I am John Harris football and a sideline reporter,
and one happened the lab crew should have in a
lab later this week.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Drew's back this week, so we'll try to knock.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Out it in the lab. Also, I would imagine I'm
one of a handful of a few, maybe many of
the charter members of the Daria Goomballe fan Club. Daria
is one of those guys when you get to the
offseason and everybody talks about what the Texans should do.
I think Darry's one of those guys. Well, you know,
move on from Dara. You know you don't need dark,
(30:41):
Yeah you do. Daria is He's special man. He is
a different kind of guy because he had so much
on special teams. He's really good as a third down back.
He's such a great leader, He's kind of seen it all.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
This interview we had a chance to do with that.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
We dove into a lot of different things with him,
but I thought it was I asked a question of
a lot of guys of this, and I think Darry
had one of the best answers. But I essentially asked
him nine years into the league. Dary Goombwale sits down
with rookie Darya Gumbwale. What advice, what one piece of
advice would you give to rookie Darry Gumbwale. And I
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thought his answer was absolutely dead on perfect, And it's
an answer that I think a lot of people would
be advised in the right way to heat for whatever
they're dealing with and you'll hear the answer, and it's
absolutely awesome because I remember twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
I remember those practices.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I remember the the just constant barrage of hey do this,
Hey do that, Hey, you're not good enough. I mean,
Dary hits on all of that in this interview and
then some let's get to it, Mark and I sat
down with the man himself, Daria Goombwallee.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
All he does is make plays. Dar. How's it going,
Dara man Um doing great? You know.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
I was writing a little piece about OTAs and thinking
about you, you know, and I saw a little highlight
clip of the Buffalo game last year and you had
that big first down late where you slid the clock
keeps rolling.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I know we didn't win it on that drive.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But then you had the little quick short pass and
get down and bang kick the field goal, go away
and obviously winner against Jacksonville. We can name a ton
of them, but you take a lot of pride being
able to show up for the big moments and the
little moments.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Absolutely, man, this stage of my career, you know, being
able to kind of directly be a part of winning
games just and like you said, in those situations you
mentioned at the end of games. You know, it's always
special for me, man, So it's definitely something I take
pride in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So this is year my Matthews. Year nine, Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Year nine.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Okay, take me back to twenty seventeen. Is a rookie
twenty twenty five and year nine. What one piece of
advice would you give rookie dare to get you through
to year nine? What would you look back and go
a man as a rookie. I wish I'd have known this. Uh.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
I probably would just say, bro, just just know that
I was good enough, you know, my rookie year man.
We we had, we had some good players. I was
drafted with another running back, my boy Deontae, and it
was just a lot of doubt, you know what I'm saying,
just the way I didn't know the way the NFL
worked and the way depth charts worked and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So it was just a lot of a lot of
confidence I lost.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
And I feel like it might have set me back
a year or so just because I wasn't playing like myself.
You know, I was trying to kind of fit this
mode that I thought I had.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
To be, you know, to be in the league.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
And then as obviously, year two, year three come along,
and I started realizing I'm good enough, you know, and
I feel like my rookie year could have gone a
little differently if I just knew from the beginning that
I was good enough. Looking back, now, I know I'm
good enough and I've been able to make a career
out of it.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
But how important it is fit and a proper role,
an appropriate role, if you will.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
It's huge issue in this league is huge, you know,
and then are so big, guys are so good, So
you just got to be able to find find a role,
find with your coaches what your team needs you to be,
and then be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
It's one thing to have a role, but obviously you
got to be able to do that too. So I'm
being able to, like you said, make those plays that
I've been able to make throughout my career.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Help me out, Okay, I want to talk to you
about one of those case.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
We had MJ in a little bit earlier today and
we were talking to him about this.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Fake punt Miami.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Because you've made plays and all Mark said, you may
plays in all different realms, So fake punt against Miami.
Take us through that play because everybody was shocked, and
it sounded like from what MJ said, you guys were
shocked in a huddle what he called it.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
So, the crazy thing about our punt team is I'm
a third down bag, you know, so punt teams on
the sideline on third down talking it through. I'm on
the field because it's third down. So Weeks comes out
for fourth down, we don't get the first down. Weeks
comes out for fourth down. He's like, run the fake.
I'm like, like, we've had this fake in since twenty two.
We're not running this fake. MJ's like, hey, we're running
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the fake. I'm like, oh, we're running the fake like
it's time because they're telling me. Frank didn't tell me.
They're coming on the field telling me. So I'm like,
let's do it, you know, and we've practiced it. We'
we drilled it numerous times, being MJ of Weeks to MJ,
the MJ to me, so we we knew we'd be
successful with it. But just the fact that Frank dialed
it up in that moment was dope, man, and being
able to get to get the big playoff of.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
It made it not as pretty.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
You know, hit the hit the ground, the ball came out,
So couldn't celebrate as much as I wanted to because
we had to make sure we have the review. But no,
it was a good vibe, bro. Everybody was on the
sideline having a good time after that. Frank Frank definitely dialed.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Up, Daria. I feel like we asked you this every year.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
But when I look at young backs coming into the league,
the first thing I think of, Well, one of the
first things is past protection. Are you good at it?
When did you become good at it? Were you good
at it right away? And that had to be one
of those things you realized, you know what, I'm good enough,
but I've got to.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Be good enough to do this for sure.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I'll say from a mental standpoint, in college coach coach Christ,
Paul Christ, he had a very NFL Pro style offense
when it came to the passing games, so it was
a lot of pass protection, a lot of.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
Double reeds, kind of like how we have to do now.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
And then from a physical standpoint, I really had a
couple of mentors throughout my career. The quiz Rogers, my boy, Yeah,
Houston guy too, exactly. We were in Tampa together. He
showed me the importance of of just being a good
pass protector and technique and stuff. I mean, granted, he's
a lot shorter than most running backs, so he already
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had that natural leverage, but just being able to have
that technique consistently, It's something that I learned from Quiz
and then Carlos High when I was in Jacksonville, another
guy that played with the Texas. He just showed me
how how physical you got to be with these linebackers
when you've pass protected and protecting quarterbacks. So I would
say it was a combination of a bunch of things
that kind of got me to be become a pretty
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proficient pass protector. But I would definitely say those mentors
helped me a lot.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Quiz and Kwan Man there was bad and they went
to my high school and their uncle is one of
my best friends.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
So I've been watching them for a long time. No
Quiz with it you now.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Shout out to Kwan too. Shout out to Cluis and
c bro Man.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
He was he was something else you mentioned something earlier, Dar,
I want to ask you about how many players over
the years you said we've been in this league going
on year nine, how many players have probably lost opportunities,
lost jobs, not because they weren't good players, but they
just had seriously lost their confidence.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
I mean, it's countless. It's got to be countless, man.
It's it's a it's a tough job, man. And they
tell you, they say sports professional sports ninety mental, ten
percent physical. I mean that I don't know the correct
stats on that, but I mean it's crazy how mental
this game is, man.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
And just being able.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
To have that confidence in yourself and know who you are,
bro is something that is essential.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
And then like you said, it's a lot of guys
aren't able to find that. You know, it's even if
they're they're Starr Kyleie is your big big player coming
out of high school.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
I mean when you get to the league, everybody's like that.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
So it's you kind of you kind of can find
find ways to get lost. But just being able to
stay ground and having the right people around you. Man,
It's been huge for me just having my family and
friends around me, then keeping keeping me on the right
track with that, and it's been a blessing man, being
able to do what I've been able to do.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
I got a question about family in a moment, but
I've got a bigger question about this.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Offense and what it's gonna be. Like, what are you seeing?
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Darra KALs just got us, He's got us dialed in.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Man.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
I love the way he's installed the playbook.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I mean, starting there is just a guy like me
who prides himself from picking up playbooks quickly. I mean
he's he's made it very easy for us to learn
this offense, and so that's been big for us. But
I mean there's there's a big plays to be had.
Obviously with we've we've always had an explosive offense. One
seven got to the to the team, so we're not
worried about that, but just being able to stay on
track and just the way that that that we needed to,
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you know, these last couple of years.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
I think we'll be able to do that this year.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
When you look at the running back room, there's a
little there's some season vets like yourself, some young dudes
you talked about Quiz earlier, talking about Carlos Hyde, those
guys you know, pouring into younger, younger you. How important
is it, how important is it for you to kind
of pour back into them because I know there are
some guys that are like, look, I gotta play, I
(39:20):
gotta keep a job, But how important is it for
you to kind of share what you've learned, So those
guys kind of pay it forward as well.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
Yeah, for sure, it's huge, man.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I mean, especially we get a player like Woody Draft Woody,
he's a good guy, definitely wants to to learn, you know,
And that's when you got a guy like that that
wants to learn, I mean, it's I mean, I don't
think there's any VET that doesn't want to help him out,
you know. So it's been good to be with it.
And then even the other young guys, we still got jobs,
We got British and DP is still a young guy
in my eyes. I mean, so it's just we've got
(39:50):
young guys that are eager to learn, and it's I
definitely am a mentor and me and Joe both help out.
Speaker 6 (39:57):
But we got dB. He's a hell of a coach man.
He makes it.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
He makes it so easy for all of us, so
we really don't have to do too much when it
comes to that. But like I said, I mean, when
when those guys ask a question I mean, I'm always
excited to help him out just because I know what
questions like that are because I ask those same questions
and it's gotten be to my ninth year in the league.
So definitely want to help those guys out so they
can stay in this league as long as possible.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
How often do you insist compare notes on playing so
long and so well as pro athletes.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
I mean, that's one thing that's probably the only thing
I got on her right now, is being able to
play longer than her because I mean, I mean, she's
an animal, She's an anamal out there.
Speaker 6 (40:33):
It's it's a blessing to be able to see her.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
And the same thing I was saying with DP, I mean,
it's just I can't believe she's in her seventh year
right now. Man, Like I remember watching on draft day,
watching in the final fours and stuff like that, and
now like I get to watch her and breaking down
the huddle, you know what I'm saying, pumping up her teammates,
leading her teammates. Just seeing her in that leadership roles
(40:55):
just as a big brother has been amazing to watch.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So what's the off season for you? Min Camp this
week crampon barbecue Thursday. After that, five six weeks off?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
What you got planned?
Speaker 6 (41:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (41:05):
So this weekend I'm going back to Milwaukee, me and
Eric Murray hosting a camp in our hometown. So that's
gonna be dope free camp for the kids. And then
after that just back back here training season, take a
hold of with the Dallas Wings. So I'll be be
course side, course sighted all the home gags during that
break I can, and then get back to Houston, you know,
get back to Houston, get ready for the heat and
(41:26):
getting my body acclimated to that for training camp.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Make the pitch w n B A back to Houston, right, I.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Would love it. I would love it.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
We deserve we deserve one down here. I mean I
think I think it would do well here, huge city.
Uh yeah, I think it's a no brainer.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, and you got four flags already exactly exactly Yeah,
excellent Sall right, thanks a lot for joining.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
Always a pleasure, guys.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
A lot of times i'm out about a lot of
fans will come up to me and say, Hey, is
players such and such as good at guys?
Speaker 3 (41:56):
He sounds like on the radio? Is that guy's good as?
Speaker 2 (42:00):
He sounds like I mean, is he as cool a
guy as you would think, And I mean I would
say ninety five percent of the time, I'm like, yeah,
there's maybe been a guy where I'm like, not, really,
those guys aren't on this team. Man. The guys that
we sit out a talk with, they are as good
a guys as you hear through the radio.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
And darry Goombwale is exhibit a of all of them.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
He is a better guy than he has a football player,
and he has been a tremendous impactful player since he
got back here in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Darry A Goombalwally.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Okay, a lot going on around the league, Mini camps
taking place, guys talking, some guys in some cases not
saying anything, but still talking. I'm looking at you, Stefan Diggs.
We'll get all into that next we go around the NFL.
Right here in Texans All Access, we go on final
slave with this Wednesday edtion of Texans All Access sim.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
For your Houston Texans Texans up mini camp today as
far as practices go, Tomorrow will be the family barbecue
for the guys, and then they're out, coaches out, so
it gets to be a quiet building for the next
how many ever weeks, except that Metallica is in the building,
so there's that, so it can only be so quiet.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
But you get the point.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Over the next few weeks it'll be sort of quiet,
and then we will start training camp. Still wait on
the information to go public as to when training camp starts.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
My guess is it's somewhere around at twenty.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Fifth ish, me sixth ish, somewhere in that area for
training camp. We know the Texans will practice with the
Panthers here and we'll practice with the Lions there.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
But we'll see what else.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You got the three preseason games at Minnesota home against
Carolina and at Detroit before bye week, and then kicking
it off in LA for a regular season game with
the Rams. It's only the third game regular season in
LA now San Diego twenty thirteen and a few other
(44:04):
times before that, but in LA twenty seventeen against the
Rams at the Collie and.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Then getting beat by the Rams that was kind of ugly.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Then beat the Chargers of twenty nineteen in the Soccer Stadium,
which is one of my more fun days. Now I'll
remember that was a heck of a game against the Chargers.
In that second half. Jordan Akens were crazy with two
tuddies in that win over the LA Chargers. So this
would be the third regular season game in the history
of the Texans in LA. One in one looking to
go to and one. Well, we got a few weeks
(44:33):
before we get there. NFL dot Com did a ranking
of their top ten offenses in the NFL. The Texas
will play a handful of these. At number one, this
is as voted on by NFL dot Com Gennaro Gennaro
Felice the Buffalo Bills. I'm not sure that I thought
about the Bills in that way offensively, but you know,
(44:55):
Josh Allen MVP, I get it.
Speaker 3 (44:57):
So we played the Bills.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Number two the Tampa Bay Buccaneers played the Bucks. Seen
him a couple of years ago. Number three the Baltimore Ravens.
The Ravens are those three. That's the one offense that
scares me, probably more than the other because of Lamar
Jackson and Derreck Henry.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Number four is Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's to be expected with jayde and Daniels going into
his second season.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
How good he was last year, don't play the Lions there.
Number five.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
They were the number one team, number one offense. Last
year they were ranked the number five. A lot of
losses they have to deal with. Number six is a
little bit surprised Texas will play this team. I think
it's Week nine the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Interesting. Number seven Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Hopefully we play them because that'll be me and wearing
a super Bowl in Sant Clara. Eight.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Packers saw them last year.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
I thought we did a pretty good job and even
though the offense couldn't do anything, defense God to be
out there all day. Both backup linebackers played in that
game and still really kind of held the Packers in check.
And if could have hang on, could have hung on
to an interception in the fourth quarter, would have walked
out of there the win either way. Bengals nine don't
see them. We see him see him in the playoffs. Number
ten to Kansas City Chiefs. So they're the top ten
(45:59):
is according to NFL dot Com. Nick Chubb talked to
the media today, and it's funny because every every year
we get when players go up to the podium, we
get transcripts, and when they send the transcripts, you can
always tell when it's a Demico Ryans. You know he's
(46:20):
been at the podium. You can tell when it's been CJ.
Stroud because you've got these paragraphs. You just look at
the transcripts of the press conference today was Derek Stingly,
Nick Chubb and Daniel Hunter. They don't say anything, say anything.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
They're great.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
I love them. I mean the Sting and Daniel or
my dudes, man, I love them. They're great.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And I love talking to Sting because I can get
Staying to talk because I talk football and we talk
ball and he'll he'll talk about that for a while.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
But they both talked with Nick. Chubb was up in
front of the media today.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
Asked a number of different questions, but but one he
was asked about was his message to the Browns fans.
He said, I don't know. I'm sure I'll address that
at some point. I'm not ready to do that now,
but it'd be a great message. So you know, he's
got a lot of love for the Browns fans and
another Browns fans have a lot of love for him.
But he was asked a lot about his injuries and
he just said, look, those things are behind me.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
I'm ready to go. This is an up and coming team.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
They've really turned it on, so I know I have
a chance to come here and win a lot of games.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Surrounded by great people. That is true.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Nick Chubb is a great person. Glad he is here.
All right, It's gonna do it for tonight's show. Appreciate
you guys being with me all night. Every forty five
will take you through the rest of the evening. Thank
you so much. We'll be back tomorrow with more on
a Thursday Texas All Access episode.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Seeing that everybody, and as always, go Texans.
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