June 16, 2025 • 47 mins
WR Justin Watson talks to Marc and Johnny as he preps for his first season with the Texans. John Harris calls him a 'do-not-forget-about-this-guy' type player that always makes a play when you need it most.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, Welcome in the Texans All access from the Hyundai
Texans the radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice of
the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark, what would your score have
been at Oakmont in four rounds for the US udrid.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And seventy two?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You know, I feel like though I would have done
everything I could to stay out of that rough.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, right, yep.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
These guys they know they could hit it three hundred whatever,
so they go ahead and pound it three hundred and
it rolls into the rough. I always feel like, hit
it to eighty two ninety and keep it straight. But
it's easier said than Dutch, sure, because they know their
abilities and they want to try to take advantage of
the situation. It was just bizarre when everybody started falling back. Yeah,
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and it got into the pluses and it kept moving up.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A little bit, and it was like, oh my godness,
you canna get in this state. It wouldn't make the
punt just yeah. It just seemed like a tough day
for that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But JJ spawn, Yeah, that was two of the greatest
shots maybe in golf major golf history, the drive on
seventeen that rolls on the green and gets him close
and he can birdie and then the putt on eighteen.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The putt on eighteen was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But just being able to get down the green in eighteen,
that's what you had to do, had to because you
had to had to the other guy Hoblin to make
the big putt, he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So those are big shots right there, obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
If that was Scottie, if that was give me another guy, Rory, yeah,
Rory Deshambeau. If it was, well, Kepka is a different
category now because he's really speeking out now, right he is,
And I hate to hear him out as a verb
because I like I like Jordan's speed, even though he's
from Dallas.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He was the first golfer that I happened to see.
When I turn it on, it was like plus eight.
I was like, oh, but then it's the US Open.
It's like, man, plus eight may not be in it.
But then he missed the putts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No shame. Oh man, I hated what Rory said.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I think on Saturday though, trying to get out of
here in four and a half, I was just out
of here, like shut up in the US Open, he's
getting to be.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
A little annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I've the press the whole I'll only go to talk
to the press when I want.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I feel like I've earned that. I get very
I don't touch.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He's the right word when I hear players coaches people,
I've earned it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, No you haven't. Who guess what Tiger's earned it?
You have not earned it. Rory and my relationship with Rory.
It's funny because on the Ringer podcast they talk about
relationships you have because you have a relationship with people,
you root for, actors, you like, the musicians you like.
It's your personal relationship. My relationship with Rory, which doesn't
exist personally, it's just as a fan. I never liked him,
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and then I started to like him when Live started
and he was repping the PGA tool.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Time, almost by himself.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Scotty's obviously come up so strong, but Rory really took
it upon himself to sort of carry the PGA tour
or co care. So I wasn't disappointed when he won
the Masters. But after all that, now I'm done. I'm
done with you and the Live guys. Somehow, in agreement's
going to happen. Somehow they're going to come back a
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lot of them, if not all of them. At some
point the Saudis don't like it anymore. They're thinking, what
are we doing? We have all these tournaments that nobody
really cares about. The problem is when you go to
one I don't know if they're doing the one of
the Golf Club of Houston again this year, but they
did one last year. And the fact that I don't
even know this is a problem for Live.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm sorry. Live.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You got to get to me. It's what BGA stuff
gets to me. Why doesn't your stuff get to me?
You know what I mean, get to me on your phone?
Things get to you. All the NFL stuff gets to
me constantly. All right, Some NBAA stuff gets to me.
Everyone can relate to what I'm saying. It gets to you.
They find their way to you. Live should find its
way to me, but they don't. So they're not that
cutting edge. You're really not that cutting edge if you're
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on the CW as your major network. And I know
they have Fox now too, but anyway, and they started
off on YouTube, which YouTube's cutting edge.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
However, I'm just done with him, and to me, you
should be grateful that you have that opportunity talk. Talk
all you want about Phil Micholson back in the day.
I know a lot of people didn't like it, but
when he was not doing well, he would talk about
I was just trying to stay positive out there. It's
the Masters, it's a Sunday afternoon. I'm playing golf. This
is a gift from God. Whatever he said, I'm paraphrasing.
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I like guys who have the attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, absolutely, And I feel like Rory has somehow lost that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And I don't know if it had to do with
all the hubbub in twenty four about he and his
wife and off the course type stuff. I don't know,
but he's I don't it's not a heel turned, but
it's just it's just kind of off putting.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think I've deserved that, Like, yeah, talk to your people, man.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. I mean at PRAN you want good TV ratings, you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Want the the the PGA and the USGA to do well.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like, come on, man, the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Is this, it's not for your p For NFL teams,
We've seen guys and heard from guys who don't like
to talk, got it, But the team still exists and
still plays, and it's a team. Yes, it's an entity.
It's the uniform, it's the logo, it's the brand, it's
all of it. If you're a golfer, you're the guy. Yeah,
it's all you. So you're really hurting yourself by doing that.
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How do you think the fans know what you're up to?
You're not that good on social media now. I got
to say this about him though. I did see playing
lessons on the Golf Channel with him recently and I
thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That was good. He should do more of that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, definitely, JJ spawn unbelievable story. I don't want to
say he really kind of came out of nowhere. But
the second half or the second part of last year,
he started to do some things and you're like, WHOA, okay,
But in early twenty twenty four he's actually considering whether
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he should just be done with it, give up the
PGA to re card and be done with it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Then you get to twenty twenty five and he plays
well early, doesn't win a tournament at the Players. He led,
but then Rory beat him in a three hole playoff,
so he lost that. But I heard him say yesterday
that he noted that that was the point at which
he felt like I can do this, I can play,
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And then yesterday he is he's out the lunch. The
first the front nine is like, he's out the lunch.
He's absolutely done. Who could get it from that?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
No one?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, no one, especially a guy with such little winning
pedigree on the PGA Tour, And all of a sudden,
he just little by little gets back into it and
in doing so, puts himself in a point where he's
tied going to seventeen, and on a par four of
three hundred and seventeen yards, he drives the green and nearly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Rolled the ball in the hole. Yeah, that was huge.
Nearly rolled it in a hole.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Then he has a sixty plus foot putt on eighteen
drops that we go under, the only player of the
tournament to go under.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love stories like this, and you'll love this.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Spawn also began playing the guitar as a child and
stayed in twenty eighteen that he could play Stairway to
Heaven by Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's your new favorite golfer. Yeah that is pretty good.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Although when I was growing up, everybody played stairway. It
got so ridiculous that in Wayne's world they have the
thing where they're in the music store, there's a sign
that says no stairway. Yeah, there's certain songs you're not
allowed to play. This is like baseball's unwritten rules.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
As we found out in Wayne's world, you're no stairway
to right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You're not allowed to play certain songs in a music store,
at a guitar store, like Smoke on the Water. He
can't play that, can't play the white stripes, you know,
Baltimore Ravens Lime song, can't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, he has two PGA tour wins. Two he won
the Valero Open in twenty twenty two in San Antonio
in the Yeah, and then one Us opened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, sometimes thirty four years old guys like this.
I Septis say they've ruined my Sunday because I want
the big names to win. But anybody but live and
and I don't care about the Shambo. I know a
lot of people like him. I think he's a likable guy,
but I don't want to live golfer to win.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No one really has flipped it for the Shamba.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Social media, Oh, Yeah, he started doing a bunch of
TikTok and Instagram reels and stuff like that, and all
of a sudden that just got that got a lot
of younger people involved, and they really want to see
him win. And he's kind of done it about face
with you know, not being hard oh guy all the time.
I mean, he's really turned into a he's not a swinger.
(08:39):
He feels like more a golfer now. I mean it
felt like before he just swam like long drive competition. Yeah,
long drive competition and you know, happy Gilmore style. And
now he's actually turned into a golfer seemingly. I mean,
that's kind of the way I guess I would I
would phrase it, But he's not as it's funny because
years ago, I mean, Rory's my guy. It's here for
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Rory and want to see Rory do well have But man,
I mean, but I'm not I'm not living die with him,
no pun intended. But I lately I just have been
so put off by him. It's just been really frustrated
the whole you know, don't talk to the media thing,
like I've earned that, Like, come on, man, this is
your conduit to the fans. This is you know, media,
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people that have got a right stories and and prop
up the game of golf still and there are people
that are doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Answer your damn questions, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Go say what you have to say, you know, you know,
give your message. I just I get really frustrated, you
know with that. I understand, like you said, there there
are people you know, you and I are very comfortable
beyond the mike.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This is what we do. I mean, it's our occupation.
Is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
We can go up there and talk about anything. You
ask us questions. We could be the golfers and we
can handle those questions fine. Media would be fine with
our answers, because that's just that's.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
What we do.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There are a lot of people that aren't like that.
I understand that Roy's been doing it for years.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, and he's good at it, and keep doing yeah,
just do it, keep doing it, give a positive vibes
to golf. And you know it just feels so negative.
Did you get what I mean about a player on
a team. And look, I prefer everybody talks to the media,
but a player on a team, it's one thing. Because
all right, it's so what you know, I'm still gonna
follow the team, route of the team. But you damage
the brand of you when you do this right, So
(10:20):
so a good way of putting it at.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The lift damage the brand of you. I like that.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Uh No, NBA Finals on Saturday and Sunday. I kind
of had a little bit of a like doghead turned.
I realized yesterday I kept thinking that the finals game
was going to be on it, kept looking for it,
and I finally went to the app and I was like, oh,
it's not till tomorrow. Wait what you didn't play a
finals game on Saturday or Monday?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's crazy? Because sorry, that's why they're switching cities. We're
going into game five, right, it's three to one, yeah,
because it's such a long trip.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Remember the eighties and the Lakers and Celtics would fly
back and forth, and that's what it changes.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Series comes to the two three to two other back
to two two one one one. But to me, you
had to figure out how to play on Father's Day.
You and I talked about this before the show. Got
to play on Father's Day. Got to figure it out,
have to make it happen. Dad is full control of
the TV on Father's day. No one can stand in
this point. No one can stand in his way. Comes
to Channel selection on Father's Day, and he's gonna want
(11:20):
to watch the NBA in all likelihood, So you want
to put the game on Father's Day. If not, don't
play Friday, play Saturday, take your day off then and
then play Monday. I guess I was surprised as well.
So no games Saturday or Sunday in the NBA. There
was w NBA. When was that Caitlyn Clark, it was
Saturday Saturday. That was highly enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That was of her.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
She hit three in a row, four or more something
like that, thirty three seconds or something like that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It was deep Curry. It was amazing. And you know
when I watch her play, I like to watch her
past the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
She's very Yes, she sees she sees very very well.
She sees it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She is very I mean, it's the same thing I
remember saying about Steph. Everybody used to talk about Steph
and hitting the long jumpers and that's always fun to
look at. I was like, yeah, but he handles it
well and he sees the court extremely well. Yeah, but
he shoots three, Like yeah, I know, he shoots three
he's really, really well. Is a great shoot of all time.
But watch him see the court and fine passes and
(12:20):
get the ball to open guys.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's incredible at that. She does the same thing. I
like him. Caitlin's the same way. I like watching Steph Currle.
This is like a receiver running routes.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I like watching Steph Curry run without the ball, run
around Louis Opele.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
In that series with the Rockets, he was getting beat up.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean, they did their best to knock him off
his block, yep, but they still lost because other people
helped out. But he still played well enough. And there
you have it. And by the way, just one quick
take here, Johnny on the Durant stuff. I get Durant
as a great player. He's not getting any younger. Nobody's
getting any younger. Am I wrong to say maybe should
(12:58):
just run it back with these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They You're not wrong. I know it was close.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I know it's close, and I know, oh big disappointment postseason,
Jalen Green didn't step up, have the one great game,
didn't do enough in the others. I understand all that.
Can you give him one more shot to figure it out?
I would actually ask the coach. I wonder what the
coach is thinking here. Does he think that they need
Durant or does he think would he rather I'd let
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him pick, would you rather have what you have? Basically,
I know they're gonna tweak whatever or get Durant or
whatever else is behind door number two of whatever major
acquisition we can make.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And I know that opens up a whole other ball.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Of or can of worms, ball of wax, whatever metaphor
you want to use here. I just don't feel like
it's worth it. I think you're gonna have to part
with a lot. It's going to be very painful.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
YEP. I don't know about this for them.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And how many games does Durant play. I know he's
been talking about Jalen Green being added in a trade.
Jala play every day. He plays every night. Now, there's
some people had in the playoffs said maybe you shouldn't
played it tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, but you think about Durant in crunch time of
these playoff moments, and I understand all that, But you've
got to get there. You have to survive in two
games in the West with nobody standing still here, everybody's
trying to get better and you're gonna have to survive that.
And I know maybe you don't need a two seed,
maybe a six or seven still works for it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Will seven opens up that play? And yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Stuff, But you see what I'm saying here, I don't
know if it's worth your while.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I I don't disagree with you at all. My only
thought is you got to get a bucket. Yeah, I
know where you get. I've always sold so okay, And
this is the one thing I think fans miss a lot,
and we talk about this all the time here, and
this kind of leads to a little bit of what
I want to get to is guys can improve from
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year one to year two. And I know Rockets fans
that follow up pretty closely. You have talked about reed
Shepherd and like, hey, what about read It's one of
those things where you can't I can't guarantee it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But okay, what if he progresses?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Do we want to throw him into a trade and
all of a sudden he turns into player we thought,
And that's why we picked him at number three overall, somebody,
if you're not gonna make a deal for Durant, which
the more I think about it, the more I feel
comfortable what you're saying, and that is, I'm not giving
up all that for thirty seven years old. Now, if
I give up all that for maybe Booker and Booker's
twenty eight, twenty nine, Okay, that's a different story. Now
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you're talking about a guy nine years younger, really really
entering his prime.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But I'm probably gonna have to give up.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Even more for that, even more? And then what do
you look like in the regular seas.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right with him? So that's kind of like, Hey, so
I've drafted a lot of this talent. I've developed a
lot of this talent. They've played under e May for
a while.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now, I feel like if they can get either and
you won't know this, and I think that's what makes
it tough. You won't know whether Reid is ready to
step up. You don't know whether Cam Whitmore. The signs
seemed to say that Cam what More is not really
happy and kind of surly about what's going on, even
though that guy can be a bucket and a half
(16:06):
and he can get him in bunches. And then obviously
you've got this number ten pick, which I don't think
you're gonna end up getting a big time player at
at number ten, but maybe it's another younger player that
can be added to the mix that allows maybe one
of the other guys to become a little bit better score, shoot,
or whatever it might be. I love the re signing
of Steven Adams and bringing him back, but I'm not
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I'm not totally down with going and getting durant and
giving up that much. And I get I'll invoke the
name as I think about about Reed Shepherd and and
Kim Whitmore. And I know football and basketball aren't just
saying I understand that. But when Christian Harris got hurt
last year, we all looked around and went, oh God,
who we can do? What are we gonna do? Oh
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my god, who's gonna who's the planet's disease? We knew
disease is gonna start? Who's the planetics disease? And all
of a sudden you looked up there week day one,
he went, oh yeah, Henry, Yeah, but can that really work?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And then by the end of the year, Henry was
one of your top three defensive players.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
He was outstanding, leading tackler on the defense, a leader
on the team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And nobody thought anything about Henry Totoa going into training
n year two improvement.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We talk about it in football all the time, like
you said, And with the Rockets, Jalen Green, he's twenty
three years old.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I know he's been around for a few years.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But year one to year two playoff improvement, perhaps, I
don't know. And do you want to give them that opportunity? Him, them,
all of them that opportunity to get there again? And
I don't know if you can count on getting a
better matchup for yourself, You're just gonna have to execute
a whole lot better. I would be willing to do it,
but they have a lot to consider. Let me ask
(17:42):
you this. You sell more tickets if you acquire Kevin
Durant or if you don't acquire Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And that's going to be interesting as well.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm sure they have got a good base because they
had such a successful season, and they're hard at work
renewing their ticket buyers whatever they need to do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But Thering eyeballs he's going to bring, and he's gonna
there are gonna be moments in which he he wins
games just by his sheer presence of scoring the ball
as as beautifully as he has done throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But are you gonna be as good a team? Are
Is he gonna put up thirty five and ten point loss?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And I and how much you are you seemingly having
to give up? The more I think about that, I'm like, man,
I I don't know. And look, I'm not gonna stare.
He tell you, I'm the biggest Jalen Green fan in
the world. But he shows up to play. Now, are
there some things he can work on?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Have there been players over the years that have had
a rough first playoff outing? Yeah, there have been. There
have been some along the way. What does he learn
from that? I'd be more willing to run it back
and then tweak maybe here here or there a little
bit and see if I can't get something more to
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Reed Shepherd, get something more out of Cam whitmore, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Got Easton become a little bit more. Is Jabbari fully healthy?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Give you a little bit more of the scoring aspect,
you know, the bucket getter if you will.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
If not, then.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Maybe you got to make a deadline deal during the season,
and that's gonna probably sting a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But you might have a little bit more clarity. I might.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm probably would go that direction than I would anything else. Like, look,
if I'm gonna make a deal, maybe it's a smaller deal.
Maybe I can get a guy that has shown he
could come off the bench and put the ball in
the basket, but he's not gonna be Durant, and maybe
I have to give up something for him, maybe a
draft pick or maybe a draft pick and a player
that we just don't see a future with.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, then I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But Durant, I just I mean, I'm trying to think,
and I've tried to think when as a team, Well
there's one in football, I mean that was that wasn't
really a trade, but it was a signing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But it's the rare one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
When has a team ever signed anybody thirty seven thirty
eight plus? Yeah, Brady's the only one that you can
think of. That's Brady Brady, not Brady, Yeah, this is Brady.
I mean, so that would be Lebron.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, yeah, And you know what, if you could just
sign Lebron, yes please, absolutely the time a signing, look
number signing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Or signed to Urant.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Even if I could sign to rand is the rant
gonna want another contract to.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I feel like I feel like he's gonna want one.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't know, maybe maybe maybe just me, but thning
to Henry Totoea, maybe think of this article I saw
on PFF, Because can Reed Shepherd can whitmore? Can they
become kind of underrated pieces in this whole thing that
the rockets see more with them, and so therefore they
don't make a trade. I don't think those two would
be the reason they don't make a trade. I think
(20:56):
it would be more. Hey, this core that we have,
let's let's run it back and see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And and the.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Thing is, if that group can run it back and
and do even more, and maybe you win a championship
within the next couple of years, well, all of a sudden,
that's a group that can It's gonna lose a piece
here and maybe a piece there, but the core of
it you probably could keep together for a while. But
if you trade off pieces and even pieces from your
(21:24):
quarter bring in Durant, how long does Durant have? So
are you gonna have to jump in that boat every
single year of Okay, well Durant left, what aging veteran
can we get now to go score to replace Durank.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And answer this like talk to me like I'm five,
and you don't have to answer this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
This is rhetorical more than anything. Why did it work
in Phoenix? Yeah? Better?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, like at least a little bit better. That's a
good point than it did. Like at least make a
threat and hid the playoffs. Yeah, just get the playoffs. Yeah,
like make a dent Okay. And the thing is is
maybe the fuss that all on him either, but they
had some things going for them.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, Phoenix's Phoenix, I know, wants their draft picks back.
If there is some way that Phoenix gets desperate and
they give you a really you know, team friendly deal
and you're not having to give up.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Your core, Okay, I want him to be happy, you know,
not having any But.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
If I only if I've got to give up two
three pieces from my core, and one of them's potentially well,
I don't know, Shangoon Jalen, I don't know who all's
gotta be in that. But if I don't have to
give up as much as they get closer to draft time.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's still gonna hurt. I'm sorry, Yeah, there's gonna pain.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, you're right, Well, thinking of Henry Toatoa came with
more reed Shepherd, I kind of feel like, I don't
know if underrated is the right word. Maybe overlooked at times? Well, PFF,
and this is what popped in my head because I
saw this article today. Pffs five overlooked teams in the
NFL in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Who I like this.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I want to see if you agree with this? Okay,
overlooked teams. So this is how they went about this.
Since they're opening, I said, Football prognosticators spend the entire
offseason searching for legitimate Super Bowl contenders as well as
those who could be dark horses to make noise in
the postseason. In the process, some teams get overlooked, whether
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because of market size or an underestimation of their talent
level and ability to win games. With that as a backdrop,
PFF came up with five teams that they feel more
optimistic about despite being overlooked for one reason or another.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay, Okay, let's go now.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You tell me whether you agree with this first one.
I disagree with totally. The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't know if they're overlooked. I think everybody thinks
that they're the nit champions. They're the best team that
didn't make the playoffs that you would never want to face.
My gosh, look at that offense cooking at the end
of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I feel like this is nineteen ninety loyal A Merrimount.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Lots of they go up and down a field, they score,
they've got stars. They can't stop running water on the
other end, and it eventually catches up to him.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but they they started to win.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I forget how many they want at the end, Johnny, Yeah,
they want a bunch at the end and threatened but
didn't get in. What's interesting is the year before they
also finished nine and the eight with Jake Browning finishing
off the year at quarterback. Right right, Zach Taylor can coach.
I'm sorry, got to get the defense fortified. And I
know Anarrumo lost his job because of this, but it
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wasn't just him. They were injury riddled. Are they overlooked?
I don't think they're overlooked. I think people think that
they could be a major threat's shoe not a major threat.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But if they don't get Trey Hendrickson signed and they
don't fix this thing with Shamar Stewart. They've got no
edge presence, they can't get any pressure on the quarterback,
and defensively they're gonna be abysmal. So I look, are
they gonna win games? Yeah, by virtue of the offense,
but defensively they can't stop anybody. Right, they can't stop anybody. Okay,
here's number two. Okay, the Dallas Cowboys. Now I don't
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know the Dallas Cowboys and overlooked those words have ever
been in the same sentence. But they point out here
Dak Prescott coming back, Schottenheimer becoming the head coach.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Why is that such a plus?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
All of a sudden, they're saying that Prescott, when he
was working under Schottenheimer had some of his best numbers,
his best PFF numbers. So they're they're pointing to Dak,
the addition of George Pickens, that's all right, that can help.
Then bringing back to Ron Bland, Trayvon Diggs in the secondary,
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both healthier than they were, and then donovanez Rok who
edge rusher, who played at Boston College last year. So,
as they said the very last sense, they're rightfully concerns
about the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and stop
the run. But if their star players are healthy and
playing at their typical level, they will contend for a
postseason birth. I don't know if i'd say that Cowboys
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are overlooked, but I can kind of see it in
that division because Washington is the flavor of the year.
And if Philly won a championship and the Giants just
continue to kind of make moves, and we'll see what
they do.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The top two are.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So strong, right, and the Cowboys, I know they had
three consecutive twelve wins seasons, but two years ago is
a long time ago in the NFL. Look how the
roster has changed. Have they run the ball at all
without Tony Pollard?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And that's what you need to look at here, among
other things. In Schottenheimer, I'm the one who said, hey,
maybe Shottenheimer's is a great delegator.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We don't know it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He'll be a better head coach than people think. That's
all possible. I think Dak's a better quarterback than people think.
A lot of people give them credit for. I still
the culture. I hate to bring up that word, but
it was so weird to me how when we we
were there for Muda Night Football that Micah Parsons and
Cede Lamb were over on the side, not even particular
with people not even participating in pregame warm ups, not
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the warm up before the warm up, the actual warm up.
I'd love to know what longtime NFL players would think
about this watching what we watch and I'm talking to
you in the microphone and Q before we went on
the air, Johnny, can you believe I've never seen this.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm watching them like, like, wait a second, I'm looking
at it. I'm I can't I can't find Michael Parsons, Like,
I'm like, where all these Lamb? Is he out here?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And I look over to my left and they're they're
both standing there, just kind of glad handed talking to fans.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, on the sideline pass holders.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
This would be like Nico Collins when they're all supposed
to be running routes for the quarterback to real formalized
pregame warm up over shaking hands.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
With Collins just standing here talking to their agent, their friends,
their family participate.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It's not like the president is over there or something.
It's this people.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And even if the president was over so you got
to do your job. Yeah, They're just things that you
can't do and that was that was one of them.
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, team number three, all right, buckle up, sparky. The
Indianapolis Colts overlooked, overlooked. That's the Indianapolis. See that's I'll
give you mine. Once you give me the fifth, I'll
give you a couple. But the Cults are not overlooked.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They might be undervalued, underestimated, overlooked. To me, is this
is clearly a good team that you're not thinking about.
It's national media, right. The Coults are not that. The
Colts can be better than you think, because the Colts
look Daniel Jones if he somehow doesn't turn the ball
over as much as he used to do, because he's
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got Jonathan Taylor running well. We talked about the receivers.
The defense plays better than you think. Everybody's buttoned up.
It's Shane Steichen's last go around here if he doesn't
get it together. They were nine and eight the year before,
they were eight to nine last year. They're not a
bad team. This is not a bad football team. People
think it's a bad football team, but it's not. It's
just an average football team. But average in the NFL
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can beat your butt any day of the week, so
get ready, buckle up. I'm not saying they're overlooked. I
think they're kind of undervalued and somewhat underestimate.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I get that the last two are also teams of
Texas play. One of them I think falls right Smack
d Avenue overlook category, I agree with.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It, and the other one I don't know. Someone, let
you pick between the two NFC West teams, all right,
the San Francisco forty nine ers in the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right, the forty nine ers, they're saying pff, Ye're saying
they're overlooked because you're overlooking. If no one's going to
overlook the forty nine ers, they're overvalued all the time, right,
maybe all the times a little extreme. This is like
me having an argument with somebody and I generalized.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You always do this, well, it's so you know how
it goes. The football nerds love Shanahan and the way
we got I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But they were six and eleven last I mean, yeah,
six and eleven last year, and yeah, that was sort
of an aberration because of the injuries and everything like that.
I still don't call them overlooked because they're gonna get
plenty of love. How many primetime games do they have?
I don't have it in front of me, but I'm
sure they got plenty. I'm sure there was plenty of
primetime games. People think, Oh, the forty nine ers Kyle Shanahan.
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If anything, they've been they've been overvalued throughout the time
he's been there. He's got a lot of losing campaigns.
But when he wins, baby, he went big. I mean,
they go deep. So good for them. But the Seattle
Seahawks are clearly overlooked. Clearly they were ten and seven
last year. We talked about them in a recent show
in recent weeks, how they've had one losing season in
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the last whatever twelve years, and it was a seven
win season under Carol. But Carol even left there with
a winning season. And I know that Gino's out and
Sam Donald's in. But Donald was good in Minnesota? Can
he be good here?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Could? Should? Would? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
This was a ten win football team in a pretty
tough division. I think that they are overlooked. They're adding
Cooper Cup. Yeah, overlooked, overlooked, Yeah you wad Cooper Cup.
They had a Cooper Cup that should be interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They got rid of DK Metcalf and not as many
divas in that pass receiving room, the receiver room, so
we'll see how that goes. Offensive lines got to play better.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll give you another one, but give me another one.
That's done in here. Packers, Oh, Packers.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, they're overlooked because the Packers they won eleven last year,
the same thing as.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Kind of the same thing as the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
There's no way Minnesota is going to scratch the fourteen
twelve thirteen wins.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No, no way. Not This year.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
They might win ten. I think the Packers have a
chance to overtake them. The Bears are way over valued
all the ways again, Oh my gosh, they won five
last year, but look at the improvements. That's what you
told me last year. That's what you told me last
offseason that they were gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
The nerds love the Bears. It's that simple. The nerds
love the Bears well now because Ben Johnson and Caleb.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Williams, well, okay, Ben Johnson should make a different friends.
Should but should is a word that should not exist
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They should have drafted Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I wish they would have because then the Colts wouldn't
have Tyler Warner, and I think he's gonna be a
problem in due time.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
All Right, we get back.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Justin Watson came over from the Kansas City Chiefs signed
this offseason. He's gonna step in studio, Mark and I
X right here in Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Time. Everybody. Welcome back to Monday.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This of Texans All Acts, says John Harris, football analyst.
It's out of a reporter for your Houston Tech sins
right here with you and a former Ivy League football player.
I guess I'm always a Ivy leaguer, but just a
former IVY League player. I bring that up because our
next guest was one of those dudes in college and
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as Justin Watson he played at Penn, he was a
lot lot better than me.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He's won a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Championships, He's won a lot of rings, Super Bowls, AFC Championship,
NFC Championship, He's played with some incredible quarterbacks and now
he's here with your Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
To me, he is one of those do not forget
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
He is going to make a play in a handful
of games this year that turns a game in our favor.
He did that for the Chiefs, he did it for
the Bucks. He's gonna do it for this team, is
no question. Justin Watson Stepton Studio with Mark and myself
here we go exclusively with.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Justin Watson and studio with us. Justin Watson receiver for
your Texans. How's it going, Justin Man?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So good?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
It's been awesome being down here so far.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, we were gonna ask you how it is being
down here so far because they've talked about you what
you bring to the table, but you tell us what
you bring to the table for this team.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How you see yourself fitting in? Justin?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, you know, for me, I can't believe it, but
it's my eighth year in the NFL. Yeah, third team,
and man, been fortunate enough to play in a lot
of big games, Super Bowls and had some success in
those games. So for me, you know, just trying to
be the vet in the room that's that's seen a
lot of football, that's that's made some big play and
some big moments and just try to, you know, bring
the rest of the room along as well and just
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see where I fit in as far as making plays
and helping win on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So your aight, Justin Watson can go back in time
and sit down with rookie year Justin Watson, what one
piece of advice can.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You give your What can you give your rookie yourself?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Man, that is a great question. I mean, shoot, even
just talking to some of these rookies, I'd say my
first year, I would say, take a breath, you know,
because that first year man's rough. You get you get
drafted after playing a long year, doing the whole circuit
of senior games and all that, and man, you know,
at the end of day, it's still football. I think
it took me a year to figure that out. It's
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still just a game that you love playing. You got
to play it loose and have fun, and that's something
we do a good job of here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
What is this offense like?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
All the fans want to know under Nick Cayley, what
this offense is going to look like?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
What can you tell us about what this offense is
going to look like?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, I don't want to divulge too many secrets other
than it's going to be different. You know. I thought
I thought I maybe knew coming in what it might
be like. But it's a I think it it's a
mix of some things you know, he did New England,
some things that he did in uh, you know, in
LA and then some ideas that he just had and
we've picked up from around the league. So, uh, we've
definitely laid the foundation to be able to call anything
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that we want, you know, whether it's play concepts, motion shifts,
you know, guys in different spots, So there's gonna be
a lot of creativity and seeing a lot of guys
in different spots.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Just you've played a ton of big games, played in
the biggest, one of the biggest, lost the biggest, But
you've been there, You've been through that. This is organization
that has not gotten to the FC championship game, which
Miko Rant just pointed out, that's a that's a goal.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Get there. You're one step closer to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
How valuable was it for you to have gone through
those situations where you won AFC championships, where you won
super Bowls and then use that experience and kind of
share it with the guys here. How how do you
kind of see that part of your career being able
to share it with the young guys.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, you know, I think, you know, like you said,
being fortunate, you know, playing in the NFC Championship, the
last three AFC Championships, you kind of just get a
feel for the formula, right There's no perfect way. You know,
there's some luck involved and there's some some good fortune,
but you kind of see the formula get laid out.
And it's been exciting being here so far that you know,
a lot of those same pillars are here. We work hard,
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you know, there's no shortcuts. We're doing it every day.
Everyone's showing up, putting their hand in the pile. And
then man beyond that, you know, there's just got to
be an unwavering belief, you know, no matter what happens,
we're going to find a way to win those big
football games, to make those third down conversions and finish.
You know, like I said, I think that's where we're
getting to us an organization is no matter what, we're
going to find a way, and it starts right now
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working those out in OTAs and in the training camp.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Justin two people at this table have played IVY league
college football, and I'm the one who hasn't. So let's
just get it too that you went to penn and
you got drafted. So how hard is it to get
drafted out of the IVS? Is there a different dynamic
that takes place there. People might look at you differently.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
You tell me what was your pre draft process? Like
how did that all go down?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah? You know sometimes I've said, you know, as a
as a football prospect, to get drafted, you can't have
you get you get one strike, but you can't have
two strikes. And then the IVY League you kind of
already have have one strike just being that small school product,
you know, just in the STS in general. So from there,
you know, you can't run slow. You can't be a
small school guy and run slow. You can't be a
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small school guy and then not play well in your
senior game. So for me, just the annie was always up.
But I mean I always felt like I was just
playing in overtime.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I was a guy. When I was in high school.
All I wanted to be was being my high school
Hall of Fame, have my jersey. Hang, I just want
to be a great high school fotball player. We want
to stay championship in Pennsylvania. Then when I got to college,
I just wanted to be a great college player, you know,
and then it led me in the NFL and that's
been every year. I just want to be a great
player in the season and help my team win a
championship in that year.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know. So just when you were growing up, do
you play their sports?
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I grew up playing baseball and basketball, so you're three sport.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
How did you How did baseball and basketball make you
a better football player?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah? That's that was great about growing up in Pennsylvania.
You can't play football all year. You know, it's too cold.
You can't play baseball year. It's freezing. It's freezing out.
So I think for me, it just it kept my
love of the game.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I just when fall came in, I couldn't wait to
play football because it it had been so long. I
like baseball, I liked basketball, but it just kept my
passion that when football season came around, that's all I
wanted to do. I didn't care if it was you
know what that was we saw two and three days
when I was in high school. But you know, it
was just the love of football. I think is what
was protected by playing multiple sports.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You see these young guys now and You're like, yeah,
we had two days, and they're like, what, yeah, two
days one of those Oh, let me tell you, young buck,
what they were.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You played with Tom Brady, played with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You also played with Jamis. That must have been fun.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Right now, you're probably too young to appreciate some of
the things about Jamis that we appreciate today, or at
least we appreciate just watching him from afar.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But what was that like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Playing with Jamis Man?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
He was.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
He was great to play with as a receiver. You know,
there was a one year when he had the thirty
interceptions thirty picks. Yeah, but we had like a winning
record when he threw a pick six on the first
drive of the game. Because you get down early, man,
you're airing it out the rest of the game, you know.
So as a receiver he was fun. But, like I said,
a lot of the personality stuff that's coming out with
him on the national media scale, that was every day
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in practice with him. He was just a guy that
brings a ton of energy. One of the funniest guys
I've ever been around, sometimes intentionally sometimes just his personality
coming out. But had a really fun teammate.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
He had that. That was our game in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yep, Bradley Roby picked him off I think on the
first throw of the game. Yeah, and Justin Reid picked
off the second throw of the game, but that one
got called back. Then you guys took the lead, and
then somehow we ended up winning that game by a
field goal.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I don't know. I don't know how much going to
be in the air though it's jamis.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's definitely an experience, there's no there's no question about that.
Justin we had Braxton in here earlier. We were talking
to him about playing on the inside. Playing inside a
little bit different, just because you got all that chaos
and all the trash in front.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You gotta be the same page at the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Playing outside, you don't have to a lot of times
kind of go through all that, but you do sometimes.
I don't know how much you've played inside versus outside
because your size, But what is the difference in playing
outside versus playing inside for a receiver.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, I think for me, looking at the two positions outside,
naturally you get a lot more one on one coverage.
Just defenses will play zone everywhere else the outside receiver
will match a man de man, so you're running more
one on one routes. You know the defender you're trying
to beat, usually the corner that's ligned up against you
in the slot. You just have to have a feel
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for the concept and the defense because usually they have
help from a linebacker or there's a safety rolling to
cover you. So you know they're trying to trick you
into thinking, hey, run the route off of the nickel
corner and then all of a sudden we spin the
safety down. It's actually the safety that's covering you. So
I think the slot for me has become more of
a can you figure it out before the defense shows
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their hand. We're on the outside. Maybe it's a little
more simple, but you know, you got to create a
little more separation because it's a further throw from the
quarterback than you do in the slot.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Justin, thanks so much for visiting. We appreciate it, and
thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
As a blast, Yeah, it definitely was a blast.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
We love get a chance to catch up with Justin
and just love talk to him about the game of football.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Very serious guy.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
But I got a feeling, like I said earlier, he
is gonna make place for this team. At twenty twenty
five that determine the outcome of games, deep balls, catching runs.
He's gonna be involved in it seems stay healthy, as
we do all these guys, but we did him stay healthy.
He impacted the Bucks when they went and won a
championship in twenty twenty, impacted the Chiefs a number of
years in their championship runs. So he's been there, he
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knows it, and I think that's gonna help everybody, especially
in that receiver room, but everybody on this offense, justin Watson,
appreciate his time with us. And I avoided saying, Randy,
what's it from coming to America? Love that Randy whats Yeah?
Just that's one of my favorite movies of all time.
So gotta give some respect. Okay, let's go around in
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the NFL, even in dead period, the desert, wherever you
want to call it, there's still stuff happening to the league.
We'll get to it next our here in Texas, all
Access taping. Everybody, welcome back to the final segment on
a Monday evening. Hopefully it's beautiful wherever you are. We
are now in the summer, I suppose hopefully with family,
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maybe on vacation, maybe just chilling with a drink in
your hand and just listen to Texas All Access.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston
Texans go around the NFL start here in Houston. Actually,
Jonathan Alexander this morning post article about our potential new
headquarters and that it could be happening sooner than later,
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and what that actually is. Hey, Mike Tobin, President, didn't
exactly know, but it did, in Jonathan's words, seems to
be moving quickly.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Now this is state in Harris County, don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Now, keep in mind this is team headquarters, practice, facility, business, ops,
football ops. Everybody in that building, not where the Texas
will play games. That is a whole different Matza ball
to try and handle for down the road. What happens
with Energy Stadium. To give you kind of an idea,
last week, we had Metallica in kind of take over
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the building. So you're kind of weaving in and out
of Metallica. This guy's trying to finish mini camp this week.
It's Morgan Whalen, and I think he's coming.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
In next week. I think.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
So you gotta deal with all that you're kind of
moving pieces, moving parts. This discussion about a new facility,
it's been talked about like, well, you know, we could
build something like Dallas has, like the Star, where there
are you know, there's this kind of entertainment district to
go with the facility, so that you come for a
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trainee camp practice, you see the practice around, you have food,
maybe you see it, you know, a Houston Football Hall
of Fame and you go through that. I don't know,
there's a lot of different things that can be done,
but Mike said their goal. Mike Tolman, President Texans, said
the goal is to build a training class facilities, world
class that likely will include an entertainment district with retail
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stores similar to what the Cowboys have built with the
Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
And having met up there, it is gorgeous. It's really nice.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
It's in Frisco. It's not close to Arlington, where the
Cowboys play their games, but has been noted many times
the Texans are one of only four teams that actually
do their business out of the stadium, so sounds like
that could be coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Harris County is one of the various.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Entities that are wanted to keep the Texans here, but
there are some other places throughout the said of the
Texans have looked at all of them. I've had people
actually contact me say, Hey, who do I need to
talk to about my county or having this in a
particular place. I did not represent Galison County in that
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we will not move the Texans facility down to Galveson alltho.
That would be very very cool, but that is not
going to happen. It'll be nice, but it won't happen.
So a lot of things that have to happen, but
it could be coming together a lot sooner than maybe
anybody expected. And that is something obviously to keep an
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eye on for the Texans headquarters in training facility coming
very very soon. I wanted to make sure I have
made this point. This actually is Titans and Texans. My
man Everett Gerlings, who I love dearly, is going to
take over as the VP of Communication up with the
Tennessee Titans. He had been with the Raiders and Jets.
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He's with the Raiders before he got here with us,
and I loved him.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
He was Omar Majub's right hand guy and.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Just awesome, most awesome dudes, I've known he's gonna do
a hell of a job. I wish he was in
a Tennessee, but at least we get to see him
twice a year. That news came down late last week,
and I want to make sure that I've told Ian
at text I've seen him.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I love the guy.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And we we're losing with Evert and Titans are winning
with that one. But he's getting an opportunity that I know.
It's opportunities won it for a long time. So Everitt
Garylanz is not a name you probably knew, but all
the interviews and everything that you see, he was a
big part of making all those things happen, even the
interview that you saw tonight for or you heard tonight
(46:34):
from Justin Watson.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
So congrats to e.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
We'll see him very very soon. It looks like Trey
Hendrickson and the Bengals have gone back to the negotiating table.
We'll see what that turns into, but at least they're talking.
And I know the Bengals can be the butt of jokes,
especially when it comes to finances, but thankfully they've gotten
to the table and they're talking. In none now, NFL
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News one of the coolest things I've seen. Gage Wood,
Arkansas pitcher today against Murray State, an elimination game, a
College World Series no hitter, first time since nineteen sixty
College World Series nineteen strikeouts. He hit a batter in
the eighth inning, or it would have had a perfect game,
no walks, just that hit batter. Congrats the gage Wood
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and Hogs and Clint Stearn's got to be excited about that.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
So woo pig suwie and that's the show. Appreciate you
guys for having been here. We'll see it tomorrow and
as always, go Texans.
Happy Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody, Welcome in the Texans All access from the Hyundai
Texans the radio studio John Harris alongside the Voice of
the Texans, Mark vandermir Mark, what would your score have
been at Oakmont in four rounds for the US udrid.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
And seventy two?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You know, I feel like though I would have done
everything I could to stay out of that rough.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, right, yep.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
These guys they know they could hit it three hundred whatever,
so they go ahead and pound it three hundred and
it rolls into the rough. I always feel like, hit
it to eighty two ninety and keep it straight. But
it's easier said than Dutch, sure, because they know their
abilities and they want to try to take advantage of
the situation. It was just bizarre when everybody started falling back. Yeah,
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and it got into the pluses and it kept moving up.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
A little bit, and it was like, oh my godness,
you canna get in this state. It wouldn't make the
punt just yeah. It just seemed like a tough day
for that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
But JJ spawn, Yeah, that was two of the greatest
shots maybe in golf major golf history, the drive on
seventeen that rolls on the green and gets him close
and he can birdie and then the putt on eighteen.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The putt on eighteen was ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But just being able to get down the green in eighteen,
that's what you had to do, had to because you
had to had to the other guy Hoblin to make
the big putt, he couldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So those are big shots right there, obviously.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
If that was Scottie, if that was give me another guy, Rory, yeah,
Rory Deshambeau. If it was, well, Kepka is a different
category now because he's really speeking out now, right he is,
And I hate to hear him out as a verb
because I like I like Jordan's speed, even though he's
from Dallas.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
He was the first golfer that I happened to see.
When I turn it on, it was like plus eight.
I was like, oh, but then it's the US Open.
It's like, man, plus eight may not be in it.
But then he missed the putts.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
No shame. Oh man, I hated what Rory said.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I think on Saturday though, trying to get out of
here in four and a half, I was just out
of here, like shut up in the US Open, he's
getting to be.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
A little annoying.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I've the press the whole I'll only go to talk
to the press when I want.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, I feel like I've earned that. I get very
I don't touch.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He's the right word when I hear players coaches people,
I've earned it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, No you haven't. Who guess what Tiger's earned it?
You have not earned it. Rory and my relationship with Rory.
It's funny because on the Ringer podcast they talk about
relationships you have because you have a relationship with people,
you root for, actors, you like, the musicians you like.
It's your personal relationship. My relationship with Rory, which doesn't
exist personally, it's just as a fan. I never liked him,
(02:45):
and then I started to like him when Live started
and he was repping the PGA tool.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Time, almost by himself.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Scotty's obviously come up so strong, but Rory really took
it upon himself to sort of carry the PGA tour
or co care. So I wasn't disappointed when he won
the Masters. But after all that, now I'm done. I'm
done with you and the Live guys. Somehow, in agreement's
going to happen. Somehow they're going to come back a
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lot of them, if not all of them. At some
point the Saudis don't like it anymore. They're thinking, what
are we doing? We have all these tournaments that nobody
really cares about. The problem is when you go to
one I don't know if they're doing the one of
the Golf Club of Houston again this year, but they
did one last year. And the fact that I don't
even know this is a problem for Live.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm sorry. Live.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You got to get to me. It's what BGA stuff
gets to me. Why doesn't your stuff get to me?
You know what I mean, get to me on your phone?
Things get to you. All the NFL stuff gets to
me constantly. All right, Some NBAA stuff gets to me.
Everyone can relate to what I'm saying. It gets to you.
They find their way to you. Live should find its
way to me, but they don't. So they're not that
cutting edge. You're really not that cutting edge if you're
(03:53):
on the CW as your major network. And I know
they have Fox now too, but anyway, and they started
off on YouTube, which YouTube's cutting edge.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
However, I'm just done with him, and to me, you
should be grateful that you have that opportunity talk. Talk
all you want about Phil Micholson back in the day.
I know a lot of people didn't like it, but
when he was not doing well, he would talk about
I was just trying to stay positive out there. It's
the Masters, it's a Sunday afternoon. I'm playing golf. This
is a gift from God. Whatever he said, I'm paraphrasing.
(04:23):
I like guys who have the attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, absolutely, And I feel like Rory has somehow lost that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And I don't know if it had to do with
all the hubbub in twenty four about he and his
wife and off the course type stuff. I don't know,
but he's I don't it's not a heel turned, but
it's just it's just kind of off putting.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think I've deserved that, Like, yeah, talk to your people, man.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. I mean at PRAN you want good TV ratings, you.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Want the the the PGA and the USGA to do well.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Like, come on, man, the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Is this, it's not for your p For NFL teams,
We've seen guys and heard from guys who don't like
to talk, got it, But the team still exists and
still plays, and it's a team. Yes, it's an entity.
It's the uniform, it's the logo, it's the brand, it's
all of it. If you're a golfer, you're the guy. Yeah,
it's all you. So you're really hurting yourself by doing that.
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How do you think the fans know what you're up to?
You're not that good on social media now. I got
to say this about him though. I did see playing
lessons on the Golf Channel with him recently and I
thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
That was good. He should do more of that.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, definitely, JJ spawn unbelievable story. I don't want to
say he really kind of came out of nowhere. But
the second half or the second part of last year,
he started to do some things and you're like, WHOA, okay,
But in early twenty twenty four he's actually considering whether
(05:54):
he should just be done with it, give up the
PGA to re card and be done with it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Then you get to twenty twenty five and he plays
well early, doesn't win a tournament at the Players. He led,
but then Rory beat him in a three hole playoff,
so he lost that. But I heard him say yesterday
that he noted that that was the point at which
he felt like I can do this, I can play,
(06:20):
And then yesterday he is he's out the lunch. The
first the front nine is like, he's out the lunch.
He's absolutely done. Who could get it from that?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
No one?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, no one, especially a guy with such little winning
pedigree on the PGA Tour, And all of a sudden,
he just little by little gets back into it and
in doing so, puts himself in a point where he's
tied going to seventeen, and on a par four of
three hundred and seventeen yards, he drives the green and nearly.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Rolled the ball in the hole. Yeah, that was huge.
Nearly rolled it in a hole.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Then he has a sixty plus foot putt on eighteen
drops that we go under, the only player of the
tournament to go under.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I love stories like this, and you'll love this.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Spawn also began playing the guitar as a child and
stayed in twenty eighteen that he could play Stairway to
Heaven by Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's your new favorite golfer. Yeah that is pretty good.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Although when I was growing up, everybody played stairway. It
got so ridiculous that in Wayne's world they have the
thing where they're in the music store, there's a sign
that says no stairway. Yeah, there's certain songs you're not
allowed to play. This is like baseball's unwritten rules.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
As we found out in Wayne's world, you're no stairway
to right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You're not allowed to play certain songs in a music store,
at a guitar store, like Smoke on the Water. He
can't play that, can't play the white stripes, you know,
Baltimore Ravens Lime song, can't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, he has two PGA tour wins. Two he won
the Valero Open in twenty twenty two in San Antonio
in the Yeah, and then one Us opened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Good for him.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You know, sometimes thirty four years old guys like this.
I Septis say they've ruined my Sunday because I want
the big names to win. But anybody but live and
and I don't care about the Shambo. I know a
lot of people like him. I think he's a likable guy,
but I don't want to live golfer to win.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No one really has flipped it for the Shamba.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Social media, Oh, Yeah, he started doing a bunch of
TikTok and Instagram reels and stuff like that, and all
of a sudden that just got that got a lot
of younger people involved, and they really want to see
him win. And he's kind of done it about face
with you know, not being hard oh guy all the time.
I mean, he's really turned into a he's not a swinger.
(08:39):
He feels like more a golfer now. I mean it
felt like before he just swam like long drive competition. Yeah,
long drive competition and you know, happy Gilmore style. And
now he's actually turned into a golfer seemingly. I mean,
that's kind of the way I guess I would I
would phrase it, But he's not as it's funny because
years ago, I mean, Rory's my guy. It's here for
(09:00):
Rory and want to see Rory do well have But man,
I mean, but I'm not I'm not living die with him,
no pun intended. But I lately I just have been
so put off by him. It's just been really frustrated
the whole you know, don't talk to the media thing,
like I've earned that, Like, come on, man, this is
your conduit to the fans. This is you know, media,
(09:22):
people that have got a right stories and and prop
up the game of golf still and there are people
that are doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Answer your damn questions, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Go say what you have to say, you know, you know,
give your message. I just I get really frustrated, you
know with that. I understand, like you said, there there
are people you know, you and I are very comfortable
beyond the mike.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This is what we do. I mean, it's our occupation.
Is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
We can go up there and talk about anything. You
ask us questions. We could be the golfers and we
can handle those questions fine. Media would be fine with
our answers, because that's just that's.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
What we do.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
There are a lot of people that aren't like that.
I understand that Roy's been doing it for years.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, and he's good at it, and keep doing yeah,
just do it, keep doing it, give a positive vibes
to golf. And you know it just feels so negative.
Did you get what I mean about a player on
a team. And look, I prefer everybody talks to the media,
but a player on a team, it's one thing. Because
all right, it's so what you know, I'm still gonna
follow the team, route of the team. But you damage
the brand of you when you do this right, So
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so a good way of putting it at.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The lift damage the brand of you. I like that.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Uh No, NBA Finals on Saturday and Sunday. I kind
of had a little bit of a like doghead turned.
I realized yesterday I kept thinking that the finals game
was going to be on it, kept looking for it,
and I finally went to the app and I was like, oh,
it's not till tomorrow. Wait what you didn't play a
finals game on Saturday or Monday?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's crazy? Because sorry, that's why they're switching cities. We're
going into game five, right, it's three to one, yeah,
because it's such a long trip.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Remember the eighties and the Lakers and Celtics would fly
back and forth, and that's what it changes.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Series comes to the two three to two other back
to two two one one one. But to me, you
had to figure out how to play on Father's Day.
You and I talked about this before the show. Got
to play on Father's Day. Got to figure it out,
have to make it happen. Dad is full control of
the TV on Father's day. No one can stand in
this point. No one can stand in his way. Comes
to Channel selection on Father's Day, and he's gonna want
(11:20):
to watch the NBA in all likelihood, So you want
to put the game on Father's Day. If not, don't
play Friday, play Saturday, take your day off then and
then play Monday. I guess I was surprised as well.
So no games Saturday or Sunday in the NBA. There
was w NBA. When was that Caitlyn Clark, it was
Saturday Saturday. That was highly enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
That was of her.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
She hit three in a row, four or more something
like that, thirty three seconds or something like that.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It was deep Curry. It was amazing. And you know
when I watch her play, I like to watch her
past the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
She's very Yes, she sees she sees very very well.
She sees it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
She is very I mean, it's the same thing I
remember saying about Steph. Everybody used to talk about Steph
and hitting the long jumpers and that's always fun to
look at. I was like, yeah, but he handles it
well and he sees the court extremely well. Yeah, but
he shoots three, Like yeah, I know, he shoots three
he's really, really well. Is a great shoot of all time.
But watch him see the court and fine passes and
(12:20):
get the ball to open guys.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
He's incredible at that. She does the same thing. I
like him. Caitlin's the same way. I like watching Steph Currle.
This is like a receiver running routes.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I like watching Steph Curry run without the ball, run
around Louis Opele.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
In that series with the Rockets, he was getting beat up.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean, they did their best to knock him off
his block, yep, but they still lost because other people
helped out. But he still played well enough. And there
you have it. And by the way, just one quick
take here, Johnny on the Durant stuff. I get Durant
as a great player. He's not getting any younger. Nobody's
getting any younger. Am I wrong to say maybe should
(12:58):
just run it back with these guys?
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They You're not wrong. I know it was close.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I know it's close, and I know, oh big disappointment postseason,
Jalen Green didn't step up, have the one great game,
didn't do enough in the others. I understand all that.
Can you give him one more shot to figure it out?
I would actually ask the coach. I wonder what the
coach is thinking here. Does he think that they need
Durant or does he think would he rather I'd let
(13:22):
him pick, would you rather have what you have? Basically,
I know they're gonna tweak whatever or get Durant or
whatever else is behind door number two of whatever major
acquisition we can make.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And I know that opens up a whole other ball.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Of or can of worms, ball of wax, whatever metaphor
you want to use here. I just don't feel like
it's worth it. I think you're gonna have to part
with a lot. It's going to be very painful.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
YEP. I don't know about this for them.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And how many games does Durant play. I know he's
been talking about Jalen Green being added in a trade.
Jala play every day. He plays every night. Now, there's
some people had in the playoffs said maybe you shouldn't
played it tonight.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, but you think about Durant in crunch time of
these playoff moments, and I understand all that, But you've
got to get there. You have to survive in two
games in the West with nobody standing still here, everybody's
trying to get better and you're gonna have to survive that.
And I know maybe you don't need a two seed,
maybe a six or seven still works for it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Will seven opens up that play? And yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Stuff, But you see what I'm saying here, I don't
know if it's worth your while.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I I don't disagree with you at all. My only
thought is you got to get a bucket. Yeah, I
know where you get. I've always sold so okay, And
this is the one thing I think fans miss a lot,
and we talk about this all the time here, and
this kind of leads to a little bit of what
I want to get to is guys can improve from
(14:47):
year one to year two. And I know Rockets fans
that follow up pretty closely. You have talked about reed
Shepherd and like, hey, what about read It's one of
those things where you can't I can't guarantee it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But okay, what if he progresses?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Do we want to throw him into a trade and
all of a sudden he turns into player we thought,
And that's why we picked him at number three overall, somebody,
if you're not gonna make a deal for Durant, which
the more I think about it, the more I feel
comfortable what you're saying, and that is, I'm not giving
up all that for thirty seven years old. Now, if
I give up all that for maybe Booker and Booker's
twenty eight, twenty nine, Okay, that's a different story. Now
(15:24):
you're talking about a guy nine years younger, really really
entering his prime.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But I'm probably gonna have to give up.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Even more for that, even more? And then what do
you look like in the regular seas.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right with him? So that's kind of like, Hey, so
I've drafted a lot of this talent. I've developed a
lot of this talent. They've played under e May for
a while.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now, I feel like if they can get either and
you won't know this, and I think that's what makes
it tough. You won't know whether Reid is ready to
step up. You don't know whether Cam Whitmore. The signs
seemed to say that Cam what More is not really
happy and kind of surly about what's going on, even
though that guy can be a bucket and a half
(16:06):
and he can get him in bunches. And then obviously
you've got this number ten pick, which I don't think
you're gonna end up getting a big time player at
at number ten, but maybe it's another younger player that
can be added to the mix that allows maybe one
of the other guys to become a little bit better score, shoot,
or whatever it might be. I love the re signing
of Steven Adams and bringing him back, but I'm not
(16:29):
I'm not totally down with going and getting durant and
giving up that much. And I get I'll invoke the
name as I think about about Reed Shepherd and and
Kim Whitmore. And I know football and basketball aren't just
saying I understand that. But when Christian Harris got hurt
last year, we all looked around and went, oh God,
who we can do? What are we gonna do? Oh
(16:50):
my god, who's gonna who's the planet's disease? We knew
disease is gonna start? Who's the planetics disease? And all
of a sudden you looked up there week day one,
he went, oh yeah, Henry, Yeah, but can that really work?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And then by the end of the year, Henry was
one of your top three defensive players.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
He was outstanding, leading tackler on the defense, a leader
on the team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
And nobody thought anything about Henry Totoa going into training
n year two improvement.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We talk about it in football all the time, like
you said, And with the Rockets, Jalen Green, he's twenty
three years old.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I know he's been around for a few years.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
But year one to year two playoff improvement, perhaps, I
don't know. And do you want to give them that opportunity? Him, them,
all of them that opportunity to get there again? And
I don't know if you can count on getting a
better matchup for yourself, You're just gonna have to execute
a whole lot better. I would be willing to do it,
but they have a lot to consider. Let me ask
(17:42):
you this. You sell more tickets if you acquire Kevin
Durant or if you don't acquire Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And that's going to be interesting as well.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm sure they have got a good base because they
had such a successful season, and they're hard at work
renewing their ticket buyers whatever they need to do.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
But Thering eyeballs he's going to bring, and he's gonna
there are gonna be moments in which he he wins
games just by his sheer presence of scoring the ball
as as beautifully as he has done throughout his career.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But are you gonna be as good a team? Are
Is he gonna put up thirty five and ten point loss?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah? Exactly?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
And I and how much you are you seemingly having
to give up? The more I think about that, I'm like, man,
I I don't know. And look, I'm not gonna stare.
He tell you, I'm the biggest Jalen Green fan in
the world. But he shows up to play. Now, are
there some things he can work on?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Have there been players over the years that have had
a rough first playoff outing? Yeah, there have been. There
have been some along the way. What does he learn
from that? I'd be more willing to run it back
and then tweak maybe here here or there a little
bit and see if I can't get something more to
(19:00):
Reed Shepherd, get something more out of Cam whitmore, you know, just.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Got Easton become a little bit more. Is Jabbari fully healthy?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Give you a little bit more of the scoring aspect,
you know, the bucket getter if you will.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
If not, then.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Maybe you got to make a deadline deal during the season,
and that's gonna probably sting a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
But you might have a little bit more clarity. I might.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I'm probably would go that direction than I would anything else. Like, look,
if I'm gonna make a deal, maybe it's a smaller deal.
Maybe I can get a guy that has shown he
could come off the bench and put the ball in
the basket, but he's not gonna be Durant, and maybe
I have to give up something for him, maybe a
draft pick or maybe a draft pick and a player
that we just don't see a future with.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Okay, then I'm fine with that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But Durant, I just I mean, I'm trying to think,
and I've tried to think when as a team, Well
there's one in football, I mean that was that wasn't
really a trade, but it was a signing.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But it's the rare one.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
When has a team ever signed anybody thirty seven thirty
eight plus? Yeah, Brady's the only one that you can
think of. That's Brady Brady, not Brady, Yeah, this is Brady.
I mean, so that would be Lebron.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Okay, yeah, And you know what, if you could just
sign Lebron, yes please, absolutely the time a signing, look
number signing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Or signed to Urant.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Even if I could sign to rand is the rant
gonna want another contract to.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I feel like I feel like he's gonna want one.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't know, maybe maybe maybe just me, but thning
to Henry Totoea, maybe think of this article I saw
on PFF, Because can Reed Shepherd can whitmore? Can they
become kind of underrated pieces in this whole thing that
the rockets see more with them, and so therefore they
don't make a trade. I don't think those two would
be the reason they don't make a trade. I think
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it would be more. Hey, this core that we have,
let's let's run it back and see what we can do.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And and the.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Thing is, if that group can run it back and
and do even more, and maybe you win a championship
within the next couple of years, well, all of a sudden,
that's a group that can It's gonna lose a piece
here and maybe a piece there, but the core of
it you probably could keep together for a while. But
if you trade off pieces and even pieces from your
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quarter bring in Durant, how long does Durant have? So
are you gonna have to jump in that boat every
single year of Okay, well Durant left, what aging veteran
can we get now to go score to replace Durank.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
And answer this like talk to me like I'm five,
and you don't have to answer this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
This is rhetorical more than anything. Why did it work
in Phoenix? Yeah? Better?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, like at least a little bit better. That's a
good point than it did. Like at least make a
threat and hid the playoffs. Yeah, just get the playoffs. Yeah,
like make a dent Okay. And the thing is is
maybe the fuss that all on him either, but they
had some things going for them.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, Phoenix's Phoenix, I know, wants their draft picks back.
If there is some way that Phoenix gets desperate and
they give you a really you know, team friendly deal
and you're not having to give up.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Your core, Okay, I want him to be happy, you know,
not having any But.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
If I only if I've got to give up two
three pieces from my core, and one of them's potentially well,
I don't know, Shangoon Jalen, I don't know who all's
gotta be in that. But if I don't have to
give up as much as they get closer to draft time.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's still gonna hurt. I'm sorry, Yeah, there's gonna pain.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
No, you're right, Well, thinking of Henry Toatoa came with
more reed Shepherd, I kind of feel like, I don't
know if underrated is the right word. Maybe overlooked at times? Well, PFF,
and this is what popped in my head because I
saw this article today. Pffs five overlooked teams in the
NFL in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Who I like this.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I want to see if you agree with this? Okay,
overlooked teams. So this is how they went about this.
Since they're opening, I said, Football prognosticators spend the entire
offseason searching for legitimate Super Bowl contenders as well as
those who could be dark horses to make noise in
the postseason. In the process, some teams get overlooked, whether
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because of market size or an underestimation of their talent
level and ability to win games. With that as a backdrop,
PFF came up with five teams that they feel more
optimistic about despite being overlooked for one reason or another.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay, Okay, let's go now.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You tell me whether you agree with this first one.
I disagree with totally. The Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't know if they're overlooked. I think everybody thinks
that they're the nit champions. They're the best team that
didn't make the playoffs that you would never want to face.
My gosh, look at that offense cooking at the end
of the year.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I feel like this is nineteen ninety loyal A Merrimount.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Lots of they go up and down a field, they score,
they've got stars. They can't stop running water on the
other end, and it eventually catches up to him.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, but they they started to win.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I forget how many they want at the end, Johnny, Yeah,
they want a bunch at the end and threatened but
didn't get in. What's interesting is the year before they
also finished nine and the eight with Jake Browning finishing
off the year at quarterback. Right right, Zach Taylor can coach.
I'm sorry, got to get the defense fortified. And I
know Anarrumo lost his job because of this, but it
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wasn't just him. They were injury riddled. Are they overlooked?
I don't think they're overlooked. I think people think that
they could be a major threat's shoe not a major threat.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
But if they don't get Trey Hendrickson signed and they
don't fix this thing with Shamar Stewart. They've got no
edge presence, they can't get any pressure on the quarterback,
and defensively they're gonna be abysmal. So I look, are
they gonna win games? Yeah, by virtue of the offense,
but defensively they can't stop anybody. Right, they can't stop anybody. Okay,
here's number two. Okay, the Dallas Cowboys. Now I don't
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know the Dallas Cowboys and overlooked those words have ever
been in the same sentence. But they point out here
Dak Prescott coming back, Schottenheimer becoming the head coach.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Why is that such a plus?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
All of a sudden, they're saying that Prescott, when he
was working under Schottenheimer had some of his best numbers,
his best PFF numbers. So they're they're pointing to Dak,
the addition of George Pickens, that's all right, that can help.
Then bringing back to Ron Bland, Trayvon Diggs in the secondary,
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both healthier than they were, and then donovanez Rok who
edge rusher, who played at Boston College last year. So,
as they said the very last sense, they're rightfully concerns
about the Cowboys' ability to run the ball and stop
the run. But if their star players are healthy and
playing at their typical level, they will contend for a
postseason birth. I don't know if i'd say that Cowboys
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are overlooked, but I can kind of see it in
that division because Washington is the flavor of the year.
And if Philly won a championship and the Giants just
continue to kind of make moves, and we'll see what
they do.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The top two are.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
So strong, right, and the Cowboys, I know they had
three consecutive twelve wins seasons, but two years ago is
a long time ago in the NFL. Look how the
roster has changed. Have they run the ball at all
without Tony Pollard?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And that's what you need to look at here, among
other things. In Schottenheimer, I'm the one who said, hey,
maybe Shottenheimer's is a great delegator.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
We don't know it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He'll be a better head coach than people think. That's
all possible. I think Dak's a better quarterback than people think.
A lot of people give them credit for. I still
the culture. I hate to bring up that word, but
it was so weird to me how when we we
were there for Muda Night Football that Micah Parsons and
Cede Lamb were over on the side, not even particular
with people not even participating in pregame warm ups, not
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the warm up before the warm up, the actual warm up.
I'd love to know what longtime NFL players would think
about this watching what we watch and I'm talking to
you in the microphone and Q before we went on
the air, Johnny, can you believe I've never seen this.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm watching them like, like, wait a second, I'm looking
at it. I'm I can't I can't find Michael Parsons, Like,
I'm like, where all these Lamb? Is he out here?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And I look over to my left and they're they're
both standing there, just kind of glad handed talking to fans.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, on the sideline pass holders.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
This would be like Nico Collins when they're all supposed
to be running routes for the quarterback to real formalized
pregame warm up over shaking hands.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
With Collins just standing here talking to their agent, their friends,
their family participate.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
It's not like the president is over there or something.
It's this people.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
And even if the president was over so you got
to do your job. Yeah, They're just things that you
can't do and that was that was one of them.
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Okay, team number three, all right, buckle up, sparky. The
Indianapolis Colts overlooked, overlooked. That's the Indianapolis. See that's I'll
give you mine. Once you give me the fifth, I'll
give you a couple. But the Cults are not overlooked.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
They might be undervalued, underestimated, overlooked. To me, is this
is clearly a good team that you're not thinking about.
It's national media, right. The Coults are not that. The
Colts can be better than you think, because the Colts
look Daniel Jones if he somehow doesn't turn the ball
over as much as he used to do, because he's
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got Jonathan Taylor running well. We talked about the receivers.
The defense plays better than you think. Everybody's buttoned up.
It's Shane Steichen's last go around here if he doesn't
get it together. They were nine and eight the year before,
they were eight to nine last year. They're not a
bad team. This is not a bad football team. People
think it's a bad football team, but it's not. It's
just an average football team. But average in the NFL
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can beat your butt any day of the week, so
get ready, buckle up. I'm not saying they're overlooked. I
think they're kind of undervalued and somewhat underestimate.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I get that the last two are also teams of
Texas play. One of them I think falls right Smack
d Avenue overlook category, I agree with.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
It, and the other one I don't know. Someone, let
you pick between the two NFC West teams, all right,
the San Francisco forty nine ers in the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right, the forty nine ers, they're saying pff, Ye're saying
they're overlooked because you're overlooking. If no one's going to
overlook the forty nine ers, they're overvalued all the time, right,
maybe all the times a little extreme. This is like
me having an argument with somebody and I generalized.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
You always do this, well, it's so you know how
it goes. The football nerds love Shanahan and the way
we got I get it.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
But they were six and eleven last I mean, yeah,
six and eleven last year, and yeah, that was sort
of an aberration because of the injuries and everything like that.
I still don't call them overlooked because they're gonna get
plenty of love. How many primetime games do they have?
I don't have it in front of me, but I'm
sure they got plenty. I'm sure there was plenty of
primetime games. People think, Oh, the forty nine ers Kyle Shanahan.
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If anything, they've been they've been overvalued throughout the time
he's been there. He's got a lot of losing campaigns.
But when he wins, baby, he went big. I mean,
they go deep. So good for them. But the Seattle
Seahawks are clearly overlooked. Clearly they were ten and seven
last year. We talked about them in a recent show
in recent weeks, how they've had one losing season in
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the last whatever twelve years, and it was a seven
win season under Carol. But Carol even left there with
a winning season. And I know that Gino's out and
Sam Donald's in. But Donald was good in Minnesota? Can
he be good here?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Could? Should? Would? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
This was a ten win football team in a pretty
tough division. I think that they are overlooked. They're adding
Cooper Cup. Yeah, overlooked, overlooked, Yeah you wad Cooper Cup.
They had a Cooper Cup that should be interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They got rid of DK Metcalf and not as many
divas in that pass receiving room, the receiver room, so
we'll see how that goes. Offensive lines got to play better.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'll give you another one, but give me another one.
That's done in here. Packers, Oh, Packers.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, they're overlooked because the Packers they won eleven last year,
the same thing as.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Kind of the same thing as the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
There's no way Minnesota is going to scratch the fourteen
twelve thirteen wins.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
No, no way. Not This year.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
They might win ten. I think the Packers have a
chance to overtake them. The Bears are way over valued
all the ways again, Oh my gosh, they won five
last year, but look at the improvements. That's what you
told me last year. That's what you told me last
offseason that they were gonna be good.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
The nerds love the Bears. It's that simple. The nerds
love the Bears well now because Ben Johnson and Caleb.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Williams, well, okay, Ben Johnson should make a different friends.
Should but should is a word that should not exist
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
They should have drafted Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I wish they would have because then the Colts wouldn't
have Tyler Warner, and I think he's gonna be a
problem in due time.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
All Right, we get back.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Justin Watson came over from the Kansas City Chiefs signed
this offseason. He's gonna step in studio, Mark and I
X right here in Texans All Access.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Time. Everybody. Welcome back to Monday.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
This of Texans All Acts, says John Harris, football analyst.
It's out of a reporter for your Houston Tech sins
right here with you and a former Ivy League football player.
I guess I'm always a Ivy leaguer, but just a
former IVY League player. I bring that up because our
next guest was one of those dudes in college and
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as Justin Watson he played at Penn, he was a
lot lot better than me.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
He's won a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Championships, He's won a lot of rings, Super Bowls, AFC Championship,
NFC Championship, He's played with some incredible quarterbacks and now
he's here with your Houston Texans.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
To me, he is one of those do not forget
about this guy.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
He is going to make a play in a handful
of games this year that turns a game in our favor.
He did that for the Chiefs, he did it for
the Bucks. He's gonna do it for this team, is
no question. Justin Watson Stepton Studio with Mark and myself
here we go exclusively with.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Justin Watson and studio with us. Justin Watson receiver for
your Texans. How's it going, Justin Man?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
So good?
Speaker 4 (33:31):
It's been awesome being down here so far.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, we were gonna ask you how it is being
down here so far because they've talked about you what
you bring to the table, but you tell us what
you bring to the table for this team.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How you see yourself fitting in? Justin?
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, you know, for me, I can't believe it, but
it's my eighth year in the NFL. Yeah, third team,
and man, been fortunate enough to play in a lot
of big games, Super Bowls and had some success in
those games. So for me, you know, just trying to
be the vet in the room that's that's seen a
lot of football, that's that's made some big play and
some big moments and just try to, you know, bring
the rest of the room along as well and just
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see where I fit in as far as making plays
and helping win on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So your aight, Justin Watson can go back in time
and sit down with rookie year Justin Watson, what one
piece of advice can.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
You give your What can you give your rookie yourself?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Man, that is a great question. I mean, shoot, even
just talking to some of these rookies, I'd say my
first year, I would say, take a breath, you know,
because that first year man's rough. You get you get
drafted after playing a long year, doing the whole circuit
of senior games and all that, and man, you know,
at the end of day, it's still football. I think
it took me a year to figure that out. It's
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still just a game that you love playing. You got
to play it loose and have fun, and that's something
we do a good job of here in Houston.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
What is this offense like?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
All the fans want to know under Nick Cayley, what
this offense is going to look like?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
What can you tell us about what this offense is
going to look like?
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, I don't want to divulge too many secrets other
than it's going to be different. You know. I thought
I thought I maybe knew coming in what it might
be like. But it's a I think it it's a
mix of some things you know, he did New England,
some things that he did in uh, you know, in
LA and then some ideas that he just had and
we've picked up from around the league. So, uh, we've
definitely laid the foundation to be able to call anything
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that we want, you know, whether it's play concepts, motion shifts,
you know, guys in different spots, So there's gonna be
a lot of creativity and seeing a lot of guys
in different spots.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Just you've played a ton of big games, played in
the biggest, one of the biggest, lost the biggest, But
you've been there, You've been through that. This is organization
that has not gotten to the FC championship game, which
Miko Rant just pointed out, that's a that's a goal.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Get there. You're one step closer to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
How valuable was it for you to have gone through
those situations where you won AFC championships, where you won
super Bowls and then use that experience and kind of
share it with the guys here. How how do you
kind of see that part of your career being able
to share it with the young guys.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, you know, I think, you know, like you said,
being fortunate, you know, playing in the NFC Championship, the
last three AFC Championships, you kind of just get a
feel for the formula, right There's no perfect way. You know,
there's some luck involved and there's some some good fortune,
but you kind of see the formula get laid out.
And it's been exciting being here so far that you know,
a lot of those same pillars are here. We work hard,
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you know, there's no shortcuts. We're doing it every day.
Everyone's showing up, putting their hand in the pile. And
then man beyond that, you know, there's just got to
be an unwavering belief, you know, no matter what happens,
we're going to find a way to win those big
football games, to make those third down conversions and finish.
You know, like I said, I think that's where we're
getting to us an organization is no matter what, we're
going to find a way, and it starts right now
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working those out in OTAs and in the training camp.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Justin two people at this table have played IVY league
college football, and I'm the one who hasn't. So let's
just get it too that you went to penn and
you got drafted. So how hard is it to get
drafted out of the IVS? Is there a different dynamic
that takes place there. People might look at you differently.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
You tell me what was your pre draft process? Like
how did that all go down?
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah? You know sometimes I've said, you know, as a
as a football prospect, to get drafted, you can't have
you get you get one strike, but you can't have
two strikes. And then the IVY League you kind of
already have have one strike just being that small school product,
you know, just in the STS in general. So from there,
you know, you can't run slow. You can't be a
small school guy and run slow. You can't be a
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small school guy and then not play well in your
senior game. So for me, just the annie was always up.
But I mean I always felt like I was just
playing in overtime.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I was a guy. When I was in high school.
All I wanted to be was being my high school
Hall of Fame, have my jersey. Hang, I just want
to be a great high school fotball player. We want
to stay championship in Pennsylvania. Then when I got to college,
I just wanted to be a great college player, you know,
and then it led me in the NFL and that's
been every year. I just want to be a great
player in the season and help my team win a
championship in that year.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
You know. So just when you were growing up, do
you play their sports?
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I grew up playing baseball and basketball, so you're three sport.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
How did you How did baseball and basketball make you
a better football player?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah? That's that was great about growing up in Pennsylvania.
You can't play football all year. You know, it's too cold.
You can't play baseball year. It's freezing. It's freezing out.
So I think for me, it just it kept my
love of the game.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I just when fall came in, I couldn't wait to
play football because it it had been so long. I
like baseball, I liked basketball, but it just kept my
passion that when football season came around, that's all I
wanted to do. I didn't care if it was you
know what that was we saw two and three days
when I was in high school. But you know, it
was just the love of football. I think is what
was protected by playing multiple sports.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You see these young guys now and You're like, yeah,
we had two days, and they're like, what, yeah, two
days one of those Oh, let me tell you, young buck,
what they were.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You played with Tom Brady, played with Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You also played with Jamis. That must have been fun.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Right now, you're probably too young to appreciate some of
the things about Jamis that we appreciate today, or at
least we appreciate just watching him from afar.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But what was that like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Playing with Jamis Man?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
He was.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
He was great to play with as a receiver. You know,
there was a one year when he had the thirty
interceptions thirty picks. Yeah, but we had like a winning
record when he threw a pick six on the first
drive of the game. Because you get down early, man,
you're airing it out the rest of the game, you know.
So as a receiver he was fun. But, like I said,
a lot of the personality stuff that's coming out with
him on the national media scale, that was every day
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in practice with him. He was just a guy that
brings a ton of energy. One of the funniest guys
I've ever been around, sometimes intentionally sometimes just his personality
coming out. But had a really fun teammate.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
He had that. That was our game in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Yep, Bradley Roby picked him off I think on the
first throw of the game. Yeah, and Justin Reid picked
off the second throw of the game, but that one
got called back. Then you guys took the lead, and
then somehow we ended up winning that game by a
field goal.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
I don't know. I don't know how much going to
be in the air though it's jamis.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's definitely an experience, there's no there's no question about that.
Justin we had Braxton in here earlier. We were talking
to him about playing on the inside. Playing inside a
little bit different, just because you got all that chaos
and all the trash in front.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You gotta be the same page at the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Playing outside, you don't have to a lot of times
kind of go through all that, but you do sometimes.
I don't know how much you've played inside versus outside
because your size, But what is the difference in playing
outside versus playing inside for a receiver.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Yeah, I think for me, looking at the two positions outside,
naturally you get a lot more one on one coverage.
Just defenses will play zone everywhere else the outside receiver
will match a man de man, so you're running more
one on one routes. You know the defender you're trying
to beat, usually the corner that's ligned up against you
in the slot. You just have to have a feel
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for the concept and the defense because usually they have
help from a linebacker or there's a safety rolling to
cover you. So you know they're trying to trick you
into thinking, hey, run the route off of the nickel
corner and then all of a sudden we spin the
safety down. It's actually the safety that's covering you. So
I think the slot for me has become more of
a can you figure it out before the defense shows
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their hand. We're on the outside. Maybe it's a little
more simple, but you know, you got to create a
little more separation because it's a further throw from the
quarterback than you do in the slot.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Justin, thanks so much for visiting. We appreciate it, and
thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
As a blast, Yeah, it definitely was a blast.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
We love get a chance to catch up with Justin
and just love talk to him about the game of football.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Very serious guy.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
But I got a feeling, like I said earlier, he
is gonna make place for this team. At twenty twenty
five that determine the outcome of games, deep balls, catching runs.
He's gonna be involved in it seems stay healthy, as
we do all these guys, but we did him stay healthy.
He impacted the Bucks when they went and won a
championship in twenty twenty, impacted the Chiefs a number of
years in their championship runs. So he's been there, he
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knows it, and I think that's gonna help everybody, especially
in that receiver room, but everybody on this offense, justin Watson,
appreciate his time with us. And I avoided saying, Randy,
what's it from coming to America? Love that Randy whats Yeah?
Just that's one of my favorite movies of all time.
So gotta give some respect. Okay, let's go around in
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the NFL, even in dead period, the desert, wherever you
want to call it, there's still stuff happening to the league.
We'll get to it next our here in Texas, all
Access taping. Everybody, welcome back to the final segment on
a Monday evening. Hopefully it's beautiful wherever you are. We
are now in the summer, I suppose hopefully with family,
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maybe on vacation, maybe just chilling with a drink in
your hand and just listen to Texas All Access.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I'm John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston
Texans go around the NFL start here in Houston. Actually,
Jonathan Alexander this morning post article about our potential new
headquarters and that it could be happening sooner than later,
(42:49):
and what that actually is. Hey, Mike Tobin, President, didn't
exactly know, but it did, in Jonathan's words, seems to
be moving quickly.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Now this is state in Harris County, don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Now, keep in mind this is team headquarters, practice, facility, business, ops,
football ops. Everybody in that building, not where the Texas
will play games. That is a whole different Matza ball
to try and handle for down the road. What happens
with Energy Stadium. To give you kind of an idea,
last week, we had Metallica in kind of take over
(43:26):
the building. So you're kind of weaving in and out
of Metallica. This guy's trying to finish mini camp this week.
It's Morgan Whalen, and I think he's coming.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
In next week. I think.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
So you gotta deal with all that you're kind of
moving pieces, moving parts. This discussion about a new facility,
it's been talked about like, well, you know, we could
build something like Dallas has, like the Star, where there
are you know, there's this kind of entertainment district to
go with the facility, so that you come for a
(43:58):
trainee camp practice, you see the practice around, you have food,
maybe you see it, you know, a Houston Football Hall
of Fame and you go through that. I don't know,
there's a lot of different things that can be done,
but Mike said their goal. Mike Tolman, President Texans, said
the goal is to build a training class facilities, world
class that likely will include an entertainment district with retail
(44:19):
stores similar to what the Cowboys have built with the
Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
And having met up there, it is gorgeous. It's really nice.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
It's in Frisco. It's not close to Arlington, where the
Cowboys play their games, but has been noted many times
the Texans are one of only four teams that actually
do their business out of the stadium, so sounds like
that could be coming to an end.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Harris County is one of the various.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Entities that are wanted to keep the Texans here, but
there are some other places throughout the said of the
Texans have looked at all of them. I've had people
actually contact me say, Hey, who do I need to
talk to about my county or having this in a
particular place. I did not represent Galison County in that
(45:09):
we will not move the Texans facility down to Galveson alltho.
That would be very very cool, but that is not
going to happen. It'll be nice, but it won't happen.
So a lot of things that have to happen, but
it could be coming together a lot sooner than maybe
anybody expected. And that is something obviously to keep an
(45:29):
eye on for the Texans headquarters in training facility coming
very very soon. I wanted to make sure I have
made this point. This actually is Titans and Texans. My
man Everett Gerlings, who I love dearly, is going to
take over as the VP of Communication up with the
Tennessee Titans. He had been with the Raiders and Jets.
(45:50):
He's with the Raiders before he got here with us,
and I loved him.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
He was Omar Majub's right hand guy and.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Just awesome, most awesome dudes, I've known he's gonna do
a hell of a job. I wish he was in
a Tennessee, but at least we get to see him
twice a year. That news came down late last week,
and I want to make sure that I've told Ian
at text I've seen him.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I love the guy.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
And we we're losing with Evert and Titans are winning
with that one. But he's getting an opportunity that I know.
It's opportunities won it for a long time. So Everitt
Garylanz is not a name you probably knew, but all
the interviews and everything that you see, he was a
big part of making all those things happen, even the
interview that you saw tonight for or you heard tonight
(46:34):
from Justin Watson.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
So congrats to e.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
We'll see him very very soon. It looks like Trey
Hendrickson and the Bengals have gone back to the negotiating table.
We'll see what that turns into, but at least they're talking.
And I know the Bengals can be the butt of jokes,
especially when it comes to finances, but thankfully they've gotten
to the table and they're talking. In none now, NFL
(47:01):
News one of the coolest things I've seen. Gage Wood,
Arkansas pitcher today against Murray State, an elimination game, a
College World Series no hitter, first time since nineteen sixty
College World Series nineteen strikeouts. He hit a batter in
the eighth inning, or it would have had a perfect game,
no walks, just that hit batter. Congrats the gage Wood
(47:23):
and Hogs and Clint Stearn's got to be excited about that.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
So woo pig suwie and that's the show. Appreciate you
guys for having been here. We'll see it tomorrow and
as always, go Texans.
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