On this episode of the Coach McVay Show, Sean McVay joins J.B. Long to discuss wide receiver Demarcus Robinson's game-winning overtime catch in Week 9, big plays made by rookie draft picks, his relationship with Seattle Seahawks sign guy, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
I hope you're having a great evening everyone. Thank you
for joining us for the Coach McVay Show, presented by
Microsoft Surface on JB along with the head coach of
your Los Angeles Rams. They've won three in a row
to get back to five hundred at four and four
coming home from Seattle and a well earned day off
for the players today, I understand.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, it's great.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You know we've got an extra day with the Monday
game coming up at home.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I will say this, I don't know how many weeks
it's been.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I love DeMarco and he's always brought a nice presence,
but there might be something to this.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Just two man deal. It's been Uh when when is
the last time he's been a part of this.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He's actually out in the lobby, he's here, he's available.
He just doesn't want to mess with the flow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm not okay. I'm okay with that. I love DeMarco,
but uh, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He he is a man.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm looking at the show with JB and DeMarco, and
it's just seemed like it's just been a two man
gig the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, you won't be here next week. We'll be talking
to less, so we're checking the whole thing up. Good
your reflections flying back home, why don't we start there,
like what down do you as you reflected on that
way and what it took to get it in overtime?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Here's what I would say, JB.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
When I reflect on things, you know, you look at
the memories over time, and you know some of the
things that you don't ever want to take for granted.
And I was really proud of our football team. There
is a lot of things that from just a pure
coaching perspective, Man, we can clean up execution wise, but
the grit, the resilience, the mental toughness. We come in
that locker room at thirteen to three, and there was
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a lot of reasons for us to hold our head,
and a lot of it was because of, you know,
our own mistakes that give them opportunities that you know,
we really didn't do what we were supposed to do,
and you know, we lost our poise in some situations,
but we regathered our poise and then two possessions later,
it's a thirteen to thirteen game and and it's a
back and forth. And like I had said after the postgame,
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defense has controlled the game for the most part, but
thought our guys were at their best.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And the most important moments.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was really cool to see the way that the
defense stepped up and applied consistent pressure. It was really
cool to see that stop on fourth down and one
and the two preceding plays. When you look at what
Jared Vers did on the third and one to get
it to fourth and one, and what you look at
what cam Kitchens did on second and six to get
it to a third and one, and then how the
offense then takes that momentum that snatched by the defense
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and goes four plays, and then Matthew's throwing a walk
off to DeMarcus Robinson two other receivers and two to
two at Well and Tyler Johnson make big critical catches,
and then Kiren had a tough, harder and run that
kept us in a normal down and distance. But it
was a team win, a lot of things that we
can learn. I think we've learned a lot about this
group in eight weeks, and I think we've learned a
lot about this group, especially in the last three weeks
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since we've come off of a buy. And I want
to see us continue to move forward with the right spirit,
and I do trust that the group will do that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, let's go through some of that and let's
work backward. It's starting with the game winner. And first, coach,
I want you and our audience to enjoy this incredible
shot that Yusuf Rouser got of the Matthew Stafford to
DeMarcus Robinson touchdown. You know, Rams Studios kind of bought
into your ethos, right, situational mastery and your best when
your best is required. Enjoy this at one hundred and
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twenty frames per second, so we're seeing it five times
slower than game speed.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh nice, that cinematic or that is really cool. That
is a great shot. Wow, when this thing went up,
you know you were confident. I couldn't really see, but
then I did see the Marcus. I mean, what a
job right there, the way that he got up. You know,
I said, well, shoot, his body language is telling me
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he for sure caught that. And then the pandemonium that
took place after this, But what a job by him.
Four touchdowns in the last couple of weeks. That's a
great shot. By who did you say, got that one?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yusef?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's awesome, great job by Yusef there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Career high fit touchdown this season for DeMarcus. He took
that massive hit at the end of regulation too. They
put a flag down, initially picked it up, but bounces
back for the game winner.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And you know, thought we had a chance to be
able to get ourselves in fueld goal range there. They
picked that flag up, didn't go down the way we wanted,
but our guys just kept playing the next snap. And
that's been a consistent theme with this group and I
think it's going to service well if we continue to
make it a strength as we navigate these last nine games.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How critical was Cooper holding that edge to even get
Matthew in position to read that.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Deep to shorts everything.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, you know, you've got to have guys when
you're running some of those different things understand the nuances
of what's required. Cooper does a great job. It was
a very similar look to what we had presented on
the very previous play on the you know, previous play,
and that's the kind of selflessness that we look for
in our football team, our receiver group. That's been a
staple for us under Eric Yarber's leadership. And you know,
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for a guy that has a bunch of catches and
a bunch of yards, for him to be the one
that's kind of securing the edge to allow Matthew to
get that ball up and down for the game winner.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Seems appropriate.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah. With a couple of touchdown passes in Week nine,
Stafford now has three sixty six in his career ties
Eli Manning for tenth most in NFL history. And I
know this is not the concern for the present moment,
but it seems like more and more memories are kind
of being added to his Canton case. Yes here in
twenty twenty for it, I think we're there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think so, you know, I mean, you look at
it and you look at the consistency over time, the
type of competitor he is. I think one of the
best compliments you can give him is what he does
to people around him.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, he elevates them.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He certainly has done that in the last three wins
that we've been able to get off, and there was
a lot of instances even when we had come up short,
where he was doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And so love the never.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Say die attitude, the toughness, the ability to be able
to make all types of throws and change his arm slot,
and there's another one to add to the resume.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But you know, can't I see him.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't see it any other way than whenever he
decides he's done, you know, putting on a gold jacket
after that.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, there are a couple other plays between him and
DeMarcus too that I thought we might be leading this
show with, Like that early third quarter first and ten
where he's got a free runner pairing down on him
and drops it in a bucket. Like that gets overshadowed
as an incredible time.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was incredible, you know, as a man coverage right there,
he ends up being able to throw it off drift,
and you know he recognized that was the add on.
We've got to do a better job of being able
to handle some of those different things up front.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
We'll learn from it. But he was able to overcome
it in that situation right there.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And I know you're not sleeping on how filthy that
goal line separation was from the Marcus on the first touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know, that was a really good route, great job
getting it up and down, and you know he's got
that ability to be able to get parallel and he's
got that suddenness in that twitch.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That is why he's a really good separator.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I hope we're in these seats a couple of months
from now reminding ourselves of the catch that Tyler Johnson made, Yeah,
to begin that drive, because that could go down as
one of the more consequential plays of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it was huge. You know, it was a good job.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, they're in a kind of a match split
safety coverage where it's kind of the they're reading some
of the different things and Wolle comes off and it's
a little bit later than typically where you anticipate that
ball being completed, but Tyler was able to step in
front of him and you can see Wollan's kind of
waiting to catch it, and then you know TJ does
a great job aggressively stepping back to it, and Matthew
had the confidence and that got us going to be
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able to come away with an explosive and it happening
right on our sidelines.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You could just feel our players, you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Know, use that momentum and that energy that was created
by both Matthew and Tyler in that situation, and really,
you know, that play doesn't get off if it's not
for Kyron saving the protection. You know, again, you know
some things that we can certainly clean up. But what
a job by Kyron Williams being able to kind of
level back with Ernest Blitzen when we didn't, you know,
handle that. And that's what football is about. It's a
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team sport, picking each other up. And there was a
lot of examples of that occurring yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I saw where you were on the sideline from your
vantage point, did you have the same? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Please, no, no, I actually felt good because the angle
that Tyler was coming at, I felt like he was
gonna aggressively step to it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, it was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It played out a little bit different, but I never
felt like, you know, just the way that it was
kind of developed in front of me, I could kind
of feel out of my perif that Wolle had fallen off.
But when Matthew let that go and where Tyler was
coming from, it was an amazing play. But you could
feel that just based on that vantage point that I had,
that that was a possibility. And and and only the
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reason I felt so confident is because of the confidence
I have and the way that Tyler Johnson attacks.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Back to the football can you take some I had
the fourth down stop and you referenced a couple of
plays preceding it too, But Bobby Brown had to bounce
out of that drive earlier I think comes back from
that injury to get in there when it matters.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, it was a huge play. You know, we ended
up taking the time out. It was a really good
call by our defensive staff to be able to get
into that personnel match, you know, them with what we
thought they were going to be able to do, and
you know, we had the movement you know, tied up
right and Bobby Brown does an incredible job and then
Omar Spates being able to cap it off.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, but it was really a.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Key and critical defensive stop as a team. But Bobby
Brown deserves a ton of credit. I thought he was
all over the place, especially on some of the early downs,
really made a positive impact. And to come back after
he had gotten his elbow a little bit, that was
big time happy for Bobby.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Is it overstating it? I know you were impressed last
week too. He might have put together back to back
some of his best games as a RAM these last
two games.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think that's a fair statement, you know, And I
think he's really he's really worked hard throughout the course
of the week, and you really see a lot of
that practice, preparation, performance equaling game reality for him. I
think he's got such tremendous respect for Gift Smith and
for ac Carter, and he's really tapping into some of
the things that they're asking of him to be able
to take his game to the next level. And he's
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been a major contributor for us. It's been awesome to
see Bobby continue to do his.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Thing Omar doing the types of things he needs to
do on game day to keep earning more.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think so, you know, I think all he's done
is maximize his opportunities, and that goes for a lot
of these young guys that just seem like they're in
the right spot at the right time. But there's a physicality,
there's a violence when he arrives. He's got a good
concept trigger and what a great job being able to
kind of just go over the top and then you know,
to be able to have the contact balance and then
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to be able to get the knock back right there.
That's why you get the stop and that's why offense
gets the ball back with no points.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
There you get overtime and the coin toss happens, and
I think those of us who follow and live and
breathe rams football had that same reaction you did, right,
which is okay, But like, what's cool about following the
team is you see these opportunities to improve in various ways. Yes,
and to go for week one losing against the ground
game of Detroit essentially sure where you were in week
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nine getting those run stuffs? Is that the sign of
growth you hope to see?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think so, you know, in in a lot of instances,
I mean, football is an amazing game. You know, there's
so many different things that lead to achieving and you know,
accomplishing the result that you're hunting up. But the ability
for guys to just play that next snap, you know,
especially because you know we get a false start and
they end up hitting another explosive and you know they're
in scoring position, and there's a lot of reasons for
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guys to just say, oh man, you kind of just
turn it off. And I never sense that this group
has an amazing resilience, an amazing just authentic energy and
enthusiasm to be able to say, all right, make them
snap it one more time, and I think there was
a lot of people that could go that direction. But
it does feel like there's been a lot of cool
things that have occurred from that moment since, you know,
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from from week one in Detroit to yesterday, and ultimately
the guys they held up in the most critical moment
did a great job.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
All right, Cameron Kinchin's next it was technically scored as
a fumble and a recovery in the end zone. I
know you and Matthew both had some fun with that
post game, but it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Was way more all the tapes. Yeah, no, he was
in he's good to go.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, they made it in some of the coaches, you know,
you let's let's finish through the letters and logos, no doubt.
But he finished in the front, you know, the front
part of the letters and logos. But I mean he
was a good few yards into the end zone from
my vantage point, but you could see he realized that.
I think he could hear me in his head from
some of the things we talk about on Fridays, and
he picked that ball back up to ensure it. But
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I saw it as he had scored, and by the
time he let that ball down, he was already in
the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I just talked to him. You know what's funny about
that is his disappointment. Was that distraction stole what could
have been his celebration, Like he did something. I don't
know what it was because we were all watching the
football and how he reacted to that, but that was
not the highlight. Given your appreciation for the game, I
think you'll like this. Only two defensive touchdowns in the
last thirty years have been longer than that one. Yeah,
they both belonged to Hall of Famer Ed Reid. That's
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cool and given their connection through Miami. Yeah, like that
just feels so right.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That is cool something about the U. But that was
that was a great play for him in a moment
that we had to have. You know, when he made
that catch, right away you're thinking, oh, don't take it out.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh, good decision to.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Take it out. And what a great job to be
able to finish that play. And you know, we needed
every single play that he made yesterday, and he made
a handful of key and critical ones.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He is the youngest ram on your roster, just turned
twenty two years of age, so he's tied for the
longest interception touchdown return by a rookie in NFL history.
Where was cam Kinchin's on January twenty seventeen when you
were hired as the Rams head coach? Any idea? I
have no IDEA freshman in high.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
School, I about that and I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Higher showed it's about time, like you're no longer the
youngest coach in the league. I just went up against McDonald's.
Now it's time just embraced he's.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The youngest, you know. And then we'll see Jared Mayo
in a couple of weeks. But it is, uh. You
know what's interesting is I will say this though, JB.
There's a lot of things when I reflect back on
on what a blessing it's been to be here, you know,
being in your eighth season and you know, seven and
a half years through it, there's an appreciation for things
that maybe I wouldn't have appreciated early on in the tenure.
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And those are cool things to reflect back on. And
the relationships, the memories, the experiences that you have and
the different ways that you're identifying, all right, what does
this team look like compared to previous teams?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And you know, I've heard John wouldn't say it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Sometimes comparison can become the thief of joy, you know,
But it's how do we maximize this group and how
do you make sure that you celebrate the small victories
and enjoy every single moment and the different things that
occur in the midst of that journey. And I do
think that we're doing that as a coaching staff, and
that is one of the things that I've tried to
do and be better about.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And I think we're we're headed in a positive direction. There.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Rams have scored on defense for four straight games. That
hasn't happened since the merger. I legitimately don't know how
Kitchens saw the second interception. Yeah, that went around the
tight end.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, you could see it was great reactions by him,
you know, because he's tracking his guy back across the
formation and he sees, you know, Gino throw a firm
ball and he kind of got caught up in the
trash before he could escape to the flat. And for
him to be able to have the presence to realize
it and then be able to react and catch it,
you know, great ball skills. And that's a lot harder
catch than what it looked like. Just relative to the
space that was between he and Gino there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
How about Braden Fist chucking that tight end to disrupt
the time and to make that possible.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was big, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's the reason that the play had a chance to develop,
you know, because you can see Geno's trying to throw
a firm ball through where he's expecting that tight end
to be. Fist holds him up as he sifted across
the line of scrimmage, and that's what led to Cam
being able to make that play.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Seven sacks for the Rams, most since twenty twenty in
a trip to Washington, and just about everyone had a
hand in it, but Fists seemed to be the driving force.
Did you have a favorite pass rush of his yesterday?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean some of the individual ones.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, it might have even been the one where
he probably didn't get tart charted with the sack where
he kind of backs this way into it and gets blocked.
But I thought, just he was so active and you
could really see I thought the integrity that we rushed with.
Everybody had a hand in it. But braydon seem like,
you know, you're you're recognizing the film and you're saying, man,
it's sure you feel him.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, you've heard me mention that before.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You felt his impact on the game from the first
quarter through the fourth and into the overtime period. And
you know, obviously it was cool for him to be
able to get those two solo ones, but he's certainly
had a hand. I don't know exactly how the stats,
you know, it looked like he was responsible for more
than just two when I watched the film again closely.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean, I woke up this morning thinking about the
conviction it took on draft day and in that room,
right because I could go back and read some receipts,
and I did this morning, like one of the biggest
overpays in recent draft history to trade the capitol and
you did to go get them. I imagine you would
be willing to send Carolina even a conditional seventh as
a Christmas present for the right to have bradon fist.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Now here's what I think has been cool about some
of the things that have occurred here. You know, there's
a lot of you know, decisions that you don't take lightly,
but you know there is a conviction and the ones
that we do make and if there's a belief in
a person. I think, you know, we naturally have a
tendency to tie. All right, well, what are previous compts?
Every things like that. There was a belief and there
was an ability at that time to be able to
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go up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And get him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We wanted to make an aggressive move to do that,
and you know, less his staff, you know myself and
our coaching staff, there was a unanimous buy in with
the human being.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And that's what this is still about.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
This is a people business, and we bet on Braden
Fisk and he's going to continue to mature, He's going
to continue to grow. I was happy for him, but
that's been a culmination of a lot of work that's
been done, you know, in practices at his career, you know,
when you go back to college and from off season
to training camp. He's our kind of guy and that's
why we believed in him. And yesterday was a cool
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way for him to impact the game in a positive way.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I thought it was wise and strategic of your defensive
front to get all the neutral zone infractions out of
the way in a game in which they were just
totally wrecking shop so that we wouldn't notice and they
wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, you know, yeah, you know what, It's funny. It
was a weird dynamic in regards to how much you're dominating,
and then all those explosives come on free plays where
he must have had a hell of a cadence yesterday.
I mean, because guys that are more disciplined than that.
But all kidding aside, you know, those are great learning opportunities,
you know where you say, guys, we can't do this, We're.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Too good for this. Let's focus on.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
This because they weren't blocking us anyway. So how about
we key the ball, we play within the framework of
the discipline and the detail that we need to and
don't given them opportunity where you're giving them basically free plays,
and to their credit, they maximize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
They got a ton of yardage off of those plays.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
We wish a happy birthday to Jared First today, and
because of what he does to impact the passer, I
feel like a lot like Aaron who came before him,
his early down run defense might forever be shadowed over
the course of what we hope is a great career.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Was his internal rush defense great as good as it
was externally?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He's I think he's playing within himself. You know, he
played a bunch of snaps. Our defense. We played too
many snaps as a whole. I think that's a reflection of,
you know, we got to be better at sustaining drives offensively,
you know, and then we've got to do a good
job of minimizing some of the things where we allowed
them to extend drives, like you and I talked about.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But he was really good.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think he's played really well over the last handful
of weeks. And you know, his physicality, some of the
different things. I mean, you look at what he did
on the third and one to be able to get
it to fourth and one.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Amazing play.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
They tried to run a little bit of a sift
scheme where they brought the tight end back across the
formation and a gun far look, and he ends up
beating the tight end and makes a tackle for loss.
So he has impacted the game in a variety of ways.
He's been a grown man, and we've loved what we've
seen from him.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, if you were to build a roster from
scratch in the NFL, you would obviously want to start
with a franchise quarterback, and then we could debate like
what next, like a top tier receiver, you know, a
rock solid defensive line, but a young, consistent, diverse, multiple
pass rush. Yep, that's right there on the short list.
I imagine it sure is.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, that's that's a way that you can impact games.
And when you're playing that way on the front, you
make the second and third levels of the defense better.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Everything is sped up.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You're earning the opportunity to be in more favorable down
in distances. And so I think they've been a key
cog and why things have gone well for us defensively
and why we've been able to put pressure on these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What will we see next another one hundred and three
yard pick six or a pukin Nakoupa ejection.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Definitely one hundred and three year od pick six.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's kind of my thought too. Yeah, what's the takeaway there?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Anything learning? Op?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, it's one of those deals. I said it afterwards,
and I believe this this guy. I love this guy.
I love what he's about. All the things we talked
about in terms of the makeup of whether it's the
Jared versus the braid and fist that we've talked about
at length here today. That's what Pokinakup is as well.
He's emotional and I think Ad used to have a
great saying, I want to play with the controlled aggression,
And because he's such a special player, there's always going
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to be in an intent to try to be able
to get under his skin.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
He'll learn from it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's all about the right kind of stuff, and sometimes
those learning opportunities can be the best ways that you
can apply it moving forward and where the real growth
can occur. And I know he's going to use that
the right way.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I felt for you though, because I said after the
Vikings win, Oshan finally gets to use the play sheet
that he barned out halftime of the Detroit game, and
now here you are at halftime of this game. Yeah, window, And.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I thought, guys, stepped up.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know what, we've If there's one thing that I
think our group has been able to do, it's it's
adjust and adapt, and so we prefer not to have
to do that quite as much. But it has a
lot really taught us a lot about some of these
players that have earned the right for us to have
a lot of confidence in them. And I think that's
been the coolest thing that you take away.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right, let's get to some injury clean up stuff.
I heard you tell the media that Rob Havenstein unfortunate
will miss the Monday night football game with his ankle injury.
So who steps in there? Is it Noe Boom or
warm clean everything.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Both of those guys are candidates. You know, we'll get
Joe back up and active. I thought he had a
good week of practice last week. But those are two
possible candidates. Both of them have started at the right
tackle position for US JB and so we'll see what
that looks like.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You'll get with the coaches.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We'll start to look at the film, and I do
believe it's about matchups, so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I was thinking, is there any way Sean will like
bite on a trade deadline question? Like, really tell us
what's going to happen here overnight on the Coach McVeigh showy,
I figured the answer is no. So how much if
I offered you like Steve Avila and Jonah Jackson coming
back at the deadline, that would have something.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That would take yes? And that's a possibility for us.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You know, I think those guys have kind of been
teasing us doing some work off to the side with
our trainers, and they look healthy. They've been putting a
lot of work in behind the scenes, and I think
this week will represent you start their clocks with the
hope and optimism that they could be active participants against
the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And then the backdrop for Kitchens, of course is Cam
curl battled through a knee. He was questionable and started,
could not finish that game, and so the rookie gets
his opportunity.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He did, and I thought, you know, Cam was ready.
You know, Cam Curll was ready to go. I thought
he made his impact, felt didn't feel like he could
quite be himself. So then it allows Cam Kitchens to
be able to get a bunch of reps that he
wouldn't have gotten otherwise. And I do think that he
used the week of preparation because we were a little
bit limited with Cam Curls reps. Cam Kitchens got those,
so he was able to get those. I thought it
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showed with the way that he was able to play,
and we're hopeful that Cam curR will start getting healthier
and healthier. Didn't have any sort of setbacks, but being
able to get Cam Kitchens those opportunities was cool. And
I think if there's one thing our defensive staff has
done really well, it's utilized in all of the guys
that are up and active on our defensive side of
the football, finding their strengths and continuing to create personnel
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groupings that match it for us to be able to
put pressure on the opposing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Offense, many of whom are undrafted players Day three picks.
They've done a great job there. One more about Seattle.
What about that Seahawks fan in the corner? In the
relationship you have going up against him?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know, I got to so he's always had some
fun with me, going back to even the first time
that we go there where it's like, you know, you
need a babysitter for McVeigh. You know, you hired a
head coach that still needs a babysitter. But you know
Billy Nays who used to work here with me as
my right hand man. You know, he had worked in Seattle,
so he kind of introduced me to him, and he is,
you know, he has some pretty good wit. I mean
some of the signs, I mean they'll hurt your feelings
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if you let him. I mean he had one yesterday
he said fire McVeigh. We need an assistant special teams coach.
I got a good little laugh walking running in from
warm ups. That was pretty good. But he's always a
good sport.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
We've had nine opportunities since I've been here to go
up there, and we've come away with you know, the
result that we're up six of those nine times, and
so he's always been pretty fair. And then he'll always
dapt the guys up, you know afterwards, and then he'll
try to rub it in if you don't get the
results you want.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Do you see Rams social got him with the Rams
wins sign at the end.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I saw, I saw Kyron was holding it and flashing
in his face, and you know he allows it to
go both ways.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
So he's he's a fair participant.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah. I love going up There's a good, good place
to play football.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It is all right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The Miami Dolphins, I think probably the best two and
six team I can think of in recent memory. There's
no way their record is reflective of who they are.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Heck no, you know, we'll dive into the preparation once
you and I finish up, but just seeing especially the
spark that two has brought them the last couple of weeks.
You look at two of the better teams in the NFL,
the way they've played over the last few weeks, and
the Cardinals and the Bills, and they're wired to wire
with them. And so they've got great playmakers, they're really
well coached, they've got great players on defense, and so
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you know, we've got we've got our work cutout for us.
And it'll be nice to be back at home on
Monday Night, but we got to have a great week
and it's gonna be a great challenge.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Supremely motive team too. When you look at what's left
on their schedule, they still can do it. Buffalo's kind
of running away with that division. But you know they're
gonna bring their best swing.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
No question, and uh and we're gonna hopefully give our
best and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Thanks for talking by Sean. Thanks to enjoy the bonus day,
looking forward to Monday Night football, Sean McVay and The
Coaches Show, always presented by Microsoft Surface
Speaker 3 (24:20):
M
I hope you're having a great evening everyone. Thank you
for joining us for the Coach McVay Show, presented by
Microsoft Surface on JB along with the head coach of
your Los Angeles Rams. They've won three in a row
to get back to five hundred at four and four
coming home from Seattle and a well earned day off
for the players today, I understand.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
No, it's great.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
You know we've got an extra day with the Monday
game coming up at home.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I will say this, I don't know how many weeks
it's been.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I love DeMarco and he's always brought a nice presence,
but there might be something to this.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Just two man deal. It's been Uh when when is
the last time he's been a part of this.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
He's actually out in the lobby, he's here, he's available.
He just doesn't want to mess with the flow.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I'm not okay. I'm okay with that. I love DeMarco,
but uh, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He he is a man.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm looking at the show with JB and DeMarco, and
it's just seemed like it's just been a two man
gig the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Well, you won't be here next week. We'll be talking
to less, so we're checking the whole thing up. Good
your reflections flying back home, why don't we start there,
like what down do you as you reflected on that
way and what it took to get it in overtime?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Here's what I would say, JB.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
When I reflect on things, you know, you look at
the memories over time, and you know some of the
things that you don't ever want to take for granted.
And I was really proud of our football team. There
is a lot of things that from just a pure
coaching perspective, Man, we can clean up execution wise, but
the grit, the resilience, the mental toughness. We come in
that locker room at thirteen to three, and there was
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a lot of reasons for us to hold our head,
and a lot of it was because of, you know,
our own mistakes that give them opportunities that you know,
we really didn't do what we were supposed to do,
and you know, we lost our poise in some situations,
but we regathered our poise and then two possessions later,
it's a thirteen to thirteen game and and it's a
back and forth. And like I had said after the postgame,
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defense has controlled the game for the most part, but
thought our guys were at their best.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And the most important moments.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It was really cool to see the way that the
defense stepped up and applied consistent pressure. It was really
cool to see that stop on fourth down and one
and the two preceding plays. When you look at what
Jared Vers did on the third and one to get
it to fourth and one, and what you look at
what cam Kitchens did on second and six to get
it to a third and one, and then how the
offense then takes that momentum that snatched by the defense
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and goes four plays, and then Matthew's throwing a walk
off to DeMarcus Robinson two other receivers and two to
two at Well and Tyler Johnson make big critical catches,
and then Kiren had a tough, harder and run that
kept us in a normal down and distance. But it
was a team win, a lot of things that we
can learn. I think we've learned a lot about this
group in eight weeks, and I think we've learned a
lot about this group, especially in the last three weeks
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since we've come off of a buy. And I want
to see us continue to move forward with the right spirit,
and I do trust that the group will do that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
All right, let's go through some of that and let's
work backward. It's starting with the game winner. And first, coach,
I want you and our audience to enjoy this incredible
shot that Yusuf Rouser got of the Matthew Stafford to
DeMarcus Robinson touchdown. You know, Rams Studios kind of bought
into your ethos, right, situational mastery and your best when
your best is required. Enjoy this at one hundred and
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twenty frames per second, so we're seeing it five times
slower than game speed.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh nice, that cinematic or that is really cool. That
is a great shot. Wow, when this thing went up,
you know you were confident. I couldn't really see, but
then I did see the Marcus. I mean, what a
job right there, the way that he got up. You know,
I said, well, shoot, his body language is telling me
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he for sure caught that. And then the pandemonium that
took place after this, But what a job by him.
Four touchdowns in the last couple of weeks. That's a
great shot. By who did you say, got that one?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yusef?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
That's awesome, great job by Yusef there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Career high fit touchdown this season for DeMarcus. He took
that massive hit at the end of regulation too. They
put a flag down, initially picked it up, but bounces
back for the game winner.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And you know, thought we had a chance to be
able to get ourselves in fueld goal range there. They
picked that flag up, didn't go down the way we wanted,
but our guys just kept playing the next snap. And
that's been a consistent theme with this group and I
think it's going to service well if we continue to
make it a strength as we navigate these last nine games.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
How critical was Cooper holding that edge to even get
Matthew in position to read that.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Deep to shorts everything.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know, you know, you've got to have guys when
you're running some of those different things understand the nuances
of what's required. Cooper does a great job. It was
a very similar look to what we had presented on
the very previous play on the you know, previous play,
and that's the kind of selflessness that we look for
in our football team, our receiver group. That's been a
staple for us under Eric Yarber's leadership. And you know,
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for a guy that has a bunch of catches and
a bunch of yards, for him to be the one
that's kind of securing the edge to allow Matthew to
get that ball up and down for the game winner.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Seems appropriate.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah. With a couple of touchdown passes in Week nine,
Stafford now has three sixty six in his career ties
Eli Manning for tenth most in NFL history. And I
know this is not the concern for the present moment,
but it seems like more and more memories are kind
of being added to his Canton case. Yes here in
twenty twenty for it, I think we're there.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think so, you know, I mean, you look at
it and you look at the consistency over time, the
type of competitor he is. I think one of the
best compliments you can give him is what he does
to people around him.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
You know, he elevates them.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
He certainly has done that in the last three wins
that we've been able to get off, and there was
a lot of instances even when we had come up short,
where he was doing that.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And so love the never.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Say die attitude, the toughness, the ability to be able
to make all types of throws and change his arm slot,
and there's another one to add to the resume.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But you know, can't I see him.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I don't see it any other way than whenever he
decides he's done, you know, putting on a gold jacket
after that.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, there are a couple other plays between him and
DeMarcus too that I thought we might be leading this
show with, Like that early third quarter first and ten
where he's got a free runner pairing down on him
and drops it in a bucket. Like that gets overshadowed
as an incredible time.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was incredible, you know, as a man coverage right there,
he ends up being able to throw it off drift,
and you know he recognized that was the add on.
We've got to do a better job of being able
to handle some of those different things up front.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
We'll learn from it. But he was able to overcome
it in that situation right there.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And I know you're not sleeping on how filthy that
goal line separation was from the Marcus on the first touchdown.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That was great.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
You know, that was a really good route, great job
getting it up and down, and you know he's got
that ability to be able to get parallel and he's
got that suddenness in that twitch.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That is why he's a really good separator.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I hope we're in these seats a couple of months
from now reminding ourselves of the catch that Tyler Johnson made, Yeah,
to begin that drive, because that could go down as
one of the more consequential plays of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, it was huge. You know, it was a good job.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You know, they're in a kind of a match split
safety coverage where it's kind of the they're reading some
of the different things and Wolle comes off and it's
a little bit later than typically where you anticipate that
ball being completed, but Tyler was able to step in
front of him and you can see Wollan's kind of
waiting to catch it, and then you know TJ does
a great job aggressively stepping back to it, and Matthew
had the confidence and that got us going to be
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able to come away with an explosive and it happening
right on our sidelines.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
You could just feel our players, you.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Know, use that momentum and that energy that was created
by both Matthew and Tyler in that situation, and really,
you know, that play doesn't get off if it's not
for Kyron saving the protection. You know, again, you know
some things that we can certainly clean up. But what
a job by Kyron Williams being able to kind of
level back with Ernest Blitzen when we didn't, you know,
handle that. And that's what football is about. It's a
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team sport, picking each other up. And there was a
lot of examples of that occurring yesterday.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I saw where you were on the sideline from your
vantage point, did you have the same? Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Please, no, no, I actually felt good because the angle
that Tyler was coming at, I felt like he was
gonna aggressively step to it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, it was.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
It played out a little bit different, but I never
felt like, you know, just the way that it was
kind of developed in front of me, I could kind
of feel out of my perif that Wolle had fallen off.
But when Matthew let that go and where Tyler was
coming from, it was an amazing play. But you could
feel that just based on that vantage point that I had,
that that was a possibility. And and and only the
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reason I felt so confident is because of the confidence
I have and the way that Tyler Johnson attacks.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Back to the football can you take some I had
the fourth down stop and you referenced a couple of
plays preceding it too, But Bobby Brown had to bounce
out of that drive earlier I think comes back from
that injury to get in there when it matters.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, it was a huge play. You know, we ended
up taking the time out. It was a really good
call by our defensive staff to be able to get
into that personnel match, you know, them with what we
thought they were going to be able to do, and
you know, we had the movement you know, tied up
right and Bobby Brown does an incredible job and then
Omar Spates being able to cap it off.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You know, but it was really a.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Key and critical defensive stop as a team. But Bobby
Brown deserves a ton of credit. I thought he was
all over the place, especially on some of the early downs,
really made a positive impact. And to come back after
he had gotten his elbow a little bit, that was
big time happy for Bobby.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Is it overstating it? I know you were impressed last
week too. He might have put together back to back
some of his best games as a RAM these last
two games.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I think that's a fair statement, you know, And I
think he's really he's really worked hard throughout the course
of the week, and you really see a lot of
that practice, preparation, performance equaling game reality for him. I
think he's got such tremendous respect for Gift Smith and
for ac Carter, and he's really tapping into some of
the things that they're asking of him to be able
to take his game to the next level. And he's
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been a major contributor for us. It's been awesome to
see Bobby continue to do his.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Thing Omar doing the types of things he needs to
do on game day to keep earning more.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think so, you know, I think all he's done
is maximize his opportunities, and that goes for a lot
of these young guys that just seem like they're in
the right spot at the right time. But there's a physicality,
there's a violence when he arrives. He's got a good
concept trigger and what a great job being able to
kind of just go over the top and then you know,
to be able to have the contact balance and then
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to be able to get the knock back right there.
That's why you get the stop and that's why offense
gets the ball back with no points.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
There you get overtime and the coin toss happens, and
I think those of us who follow and live and
breathe rams football had that same reaction you did, right,
which is okay, But like, what's cool about following the
team is you see these opportunities to improve in various ways. Yes,
and to go for week one losing against the ground
game of Detroit essentially sure where you were in week
(10:04):
nine getting those run stuffs? Is that the sign of
growth you hope to see?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I think so, you know, in in a lot of instances,
I mean, football is an amazing game. You know, there's
so many different things that lead to achieving and you know,
accomplishing the result that you're hunting up. But the ability
for guys to just play that next snap, you know,
especially because you know we get a false start and
they end up hitting another explosive and you know they're
in scoring position, and there's a lot of reasons for
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guys to just say, oh man, you kind of just
turn it off. And I never sense that this group
has an amazing resilience, an amazing just authentic energy and
enthusiasm to be able to say, all right, make them
snap it one more time, and I think there was
a lot of people that could go that direction. But
it does feel like there's been a lot of cool
things that have occurred from that moment since, you know,
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from from week one in Detroit to yesterday, and ultimately
the guys they held up in the most critical moment
did a great job.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
All right, Cameron Kinchin's next it was technically scored as
a fumble and a recovery in the end zone. I
know you and Matthew both had some fun with that
post game, but it.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Was way more all the tapes. Yeah, no, he was
in he's good to go.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, they made it in some of the coaches, you know,
you let's let's finish through the letters and logos, no doubt.
But he finished in the front, you know, the front
part of the letters and logos. But I mean he
was a good few yards into the end zone from
my vantage point, but you could see he realized that.
I think he could hear me in his head from
some of the things we talk about on Fridays, and
he picked that ball back up to ensure it. But
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I saw it as he had scored, and by the
time he let that ball down, he was already in
the end zone.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I just talked to him. You know what's funny about
that is his disappointment. Was that distraction stole what could
have been his celebration, Like he did something. I don't
know what it was because we were all watching the
football and how he reacted to that, but that was
not the highlight. Given your appreciation for the game, I
think you'll like this. Only two defensive touchdowns in the
last thirty years have been longer than that one. Yeah,
they both belonged to Hall of Famer Ed Reid. That's
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cool and given their connection through Miami. Yeah, like that
just feels so right.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
That is cool something about the U. But that was
that was a great play for him in a moment
that we had to have. You know, when he made
that catch, right away you're thinking, oh, don't take it out.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh, good decision to.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Take it out. And what a great job to be
able to finish that play. And you know, we needed
every single play that he made yesterday, and he made
a handful of key and critical ones.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
He is the youngest ram on your roster, just turned
twenty two years of age, so he's tied for the
longest interception touchdown return by a rookie in NFL history.
Where was cam Kinchin's on January twenty seventeen when you
were hired as the Rams head coach? Any idea? I
have no IDEA freshman in high.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
School, I about that and I'm getting old.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Higher showed it's about time, like you're no longer the
youngest coach in the league. I just went up against McDonald's.
Now it's time just embraced he's.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
The youngest, you know. And then we'll see Jared Mayo
in a couple of weeks. But it is, uh. You
know what's interesting is I will say this though, JB.
There's a lot of things when I reflect back on
on what a blessing it's been to be here, you know,
being in your eighth season and you know, seven and
a half years through it, there's an appreciation for things
that maybe I wouldn't have appreciated early on in the tenure.
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And those are cool things to reflect back on. And
the relationships, the memories, the experiences that you have and
the different ways that you're identifying, all right, what does
this team look like compared to previous teams?
Speaker 2 (13:23):
And you know, I've heard John wouldn't say it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Sometimes comparison can become the thief of joy, you know,
But it's how do we maximize this group and how
do you make sure that you celebrate the small victories
and enjoy every single moment and the different things that
occur in the midst of that journey. And I do
think that we're doing that as a coaching staff, and
that is one of the things that I've tried to
do and be better about.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And I think we're we're headed in a positive direction. There.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Rams have scored on defense for four straight games. That
hasn't happened since the merger. I legitimately don't know how
Kitchens saw the second interception. Yeah, that went around the
tight end.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, you could see it was great reactions by him,
you know, because he's tracking his guy back across the
formation and he sees, you know, Gino throw a firm
ball and he kind of got caught up in the
trash before he could escape to the flat. And for
him to be able to have the presence to realize
it and then be able to react and catch it,
you know, great ball skills. And that's a lot harder
catch than what it looked like. Just relative to the
space that was between he and Gino there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
How about Braden Fist chucking that tight end to disrupt
the time and to make that possible.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
It was big, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
That's the reason that the play had a chance to develop,
you know, because you can see Geno's trying to throw
a firm ball through where he's expecting that tight end
to be. Fist holds him up as he sifted across
the line of scrimmage, and that's what led to Cam
being able to make that play.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Seven sacks for the Rams, most since twenty twenty in
a trip to Washington, and just about everyone had a
hand in it, but Fists seemed to be the driving force.
Did you have a favorite pass rush of his yesterday?
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean some of the individual ones.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I mean, it might have even been the one where
he probably didn't get tart charted with the sack where
he kind of backs this way into it and gets blocked.
But I thought, just he was so active and you
could really see I thought the integrity that we rushed with.
Everybody had a hand in it. But braydon seem like,
you know, you're you're recognizing the film and you're saying, man,
it's sure you feel him.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You know, you've heard me mention that before.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
You felt his impact on the game from the first
quarter through the fourth and into the overtime period. And
you know, obviously it was cool for him to be
able to get those two solo ones, but he's certainly
had a hand. I don't know exactly how the stats,
you know, it looked like he was responsible for more
than just two when I watched the film again closely.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I mean, I woke up this morning thinking about the
conviction it took on draft day and in that room,
right because I could go back and read some receipts,
and I did this morning, like one of the biggest
overpays in recent draft history to trade the capitol and
you did to go get them. I imagine you would
be willing to send Carolina even a conditional seventh as
a Christmas present for the right to have bradon fist.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Now here's what I think has been cool about some
of the things that have occurred here. You know, there's
a lot of you know, decisions that you don't take lightly,
but you know there is a conviction and the ones
that we do make and if there's a belief in
a person. I think, you know, we naturally have a
tendency to tie. All right, well, what are previous compts?
Every things like that. There was a belief and there
was an ability at that time to be able to
(16:01):
go up.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
And get him.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
We wanted to make an aggressive move to do that,
and you know, less his staff, you know myself and
our coaching staff, there was a unanimous buy in with
the human being.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And that's what this is still about.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
This is a people business, and we bet on Braden
Fisk and he's going to continue to mature, He's going
to continue to grow. I was happy for him, but
that's been a culmination of a lot of work that's
been done, you know, in practices at his career, you know,
when you go back to college and from off season
to training camp. He's our kind of guy and that's
why we believed in him. And yesterday was a cool
(16:36):
way for him to impact the game in a positive way.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I thought it was wise and strategic of your defensive
front to get all the neutral zone infractions out of
the way in a game in which they were just
totally wrecking shop so that we wouldn't notice and they
wouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, you know, yeah, you know what, It's funny. It
was a weird dynamic in regards to how much you're dominating,
and then all those explosives come on free plays where
he must have had a hell of a cadence yesterday.
I mean, because guys that are more disciplined than that.
But all kidding aside, you know, those are great learning opportunities,
you know where you say, guys, we can't do this, We're.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Too good for this. Let's focus on.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
This because they weren't blocking us anyway. So how about
we key the ball, we play within the framework of
the discipline and the detail that we need to and
don't given them opportunity where you're giving them basically free plays,
and to their credit, they maximize.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
They got a ton of yardage off of those plays.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
We wish a happy birthday to Jared First today, and
because of what he does to impact the passer, I
feel like a lot like Aaron who came before him,
his early down run defense might forever be shadowed over
the course of what we hope is a great career.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Was his internal rush defense great as good as it
was externally?
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
He's I think he's playing within himself. You know, he
played a bunch of snaps. Our defense. We played too
many snaps as a whole. I think that's a reflection of,
you know, we got to be better at sustaining drives offensively,
you know, and then we've got to do a good
job of minimizing some of the things where we allowed
them to extend drives, like you and I talked about.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But he was really good.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I think he's played really well over the last handful
of weeks. And you know, his physicality, some of the
different things. I mean, you look at what he did
on the third and one to be able to get
it to fourth and one.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Amazing play.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
They tried to run a little bit of a sift
scheme where they brought the tight end back across the
formation and a gun far look, and he ends up
beating the tight end and makes a tackle for loss.
So he has impacted the game in a variety of ways.
He's been a grown man, and we've loved what we've
seen from him.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know, if you were to build a roster from
scratch in the NFL, you would obviously want to start
with a franchise quarterback, and then we could debate like
what next, like a top tier receiver, you know, a
rock solid defensive line, but a young, consistent, diverse, multiple
pass rush. Yep, that's right there on the short list.
I imagine it sure is.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, that's that's a way that you can impact games.
And when you're playing that way on the front, you
make the second and third levels of the defense better.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Everything is sped up.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
You're earning the opportunity to be in more favorable down
in distances. And so I think they've been a key
cog and why things have gone well for us defensively
and why we've been able to put pressure on these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What will we see next another one hundred and three
yard pick six or a pukin Nakoupa ejection.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Definitely one hundred and three year od pick six.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That's kind of my thought too. Yeah, what's the takeaway there?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Anything learning? Op?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, it's one of those deals. I said it afterwards,
and I believe this this guy. I love this guy.
I love what he's about. All the things we talked
about in terms of the makeup of whether it's the
Jared versus the braid and fist that we've talked about
at length here today. That's what Pokinakup is as well.
He's emotional and I think Ad used to have a
great saying, I want to play with the controlled aggression,
And because he's such a special player, there's always going
(19:37):
to be in an intent to try to be able
to get under his skin.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
He'll learn from it.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's all about the right kind of stuff, and sometimes
those learning opportunities can be the best ways that you
can apply it moving forward and where the real growth
can occur. And I know he's going to use that
the right way.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I felt for you though, because I said after the
Vikings win, Oshan finally gets to use the play sheet
that he barned out halftime of the Detroit game, and
now here you are at halftime of this game. Yeah, window, And.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I thought, guys, stepped up.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You know what, we've If there's one thing that I
think our group has been able to do, it's it's
adjust and adapt, and so we prefer not to have
to do that quite as much. But it has a
lot really taught us a lot about some of these
players that have earned the right for us to have
a lot of confidence in them. And I think that's
been the coolest thing that you take away.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
All right, let's get to some injury clean up stuff.
I heard you tell the media that Rob Havenstein unfortunate
will miss the Monday night football game with his ankle injury.
So who steps in there? Is it Noe Boom or
warm clean everything.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Both of those guys are candidates. You know, we'll get
Joe back up and active. I thought he had a
good week of practice last week. But those are two
possible candidates. Both of them have started at the right
tackle position for US JB and so we'll see what
that looks like.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You'll get with the coaches.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We'll start to look at the film, and I do
believe it's about matchups, so we'll see.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I was thinking, is there any way Sean will like
bite on a trade deadline question? Like, really tell us
what's going to happen here overnight on the Coach McVeigh showy,
I figured the answer is no. So how much if
I offered you like Steve Avila and Jonah Jackson coming
back at the deadline, that would have something.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
That would take yes? And that's a possibility for us.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
You know, I think those guys have kind of been
teasing us doing some work off to the side with
our trainers, and they look healthy. They've been putting a
lot of work in behind the scenes, and I think
this week will represent you start their clocks with the
hope and optimism that they could be active participants against
the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
And then the backdrop for Kitchens, of course is Cam
curl battled through a knee. He was questionable and started,
could not finish that game, and so the rookie gets
his opportunity.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
He did, and I thought, you know, Cam was ready.
You know, Cam Curll was ready to go. I thought
he made his impact, felt didn't feel like he could
quite be himself. So then it allows Cam Kitchens to
be able to get a bunch of reps that he
wouldn't have gotten otherwise. And I do think that he
used the week of preparation because we were a little
bit limited with Cam Curls reps. Cam Kitchens got those,
so he was able to get those. I thought it
(21:46):
showed with the way that he was able to play,
and we're hopeful that Cam curR will start getting healthier
and healthier. Didn't have any sort of setbacks, but being
able to get Cam Kitchens those opportunities was cool. And
I think if there's one thing our defensive staff has
done really well, it's utilized in all of the guys
that are up and active on our defensive side of
the football, finding their strengths and continuing to create personnel
(22:06):
groupings that match it for us to be able to
put pressure on the opposing.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Offense, many of whom are undrafted players Day three picks.
They've done a great job there. One more about Seattle.
What about that Seahawks fan in the corner? In the
relationship you have going up against him?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know, I got to so he's always had some
fun with me, going back to even the first time
that we go there where it's like, you know, you
need a babysitter for McVeigh. You know, you hired a
head coach that still needs a babysitter. But you know
Billy Nays who used to work here with me as
my right hand man. You know, he had worked in Seattle,
so he kind of introduced me to him, and he is,
you know, he has some pretty good wit. I mean
some of the signs, I mean they'll hurt your feelings
(22:41):
if you let him. I mean he had one yesterday
he said fire McVeigh. We need an assistant special teams coach.
I got a good little laugh walking running in from
warm ups. That was pretty good. But he's always a
good sport.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
We've had nine opportunities since I've been here to go
up there, and we've come away with you know, the
result that we're up six of those nine times, and
so he's always been pretty fair. And then he'll always
dapt the guys up, you know afterwards, and then he'll
try to rub it in if you don't get the
results you want.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Do you see Rams social got him with the Rams
wins sign at the end.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I saw, I saw Kyron was holding it and flashing
in his face, and you know he allows it to
go both ways.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
So he's he's a fair participant.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah. I love going up There's a good, good place
to play football.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It is all right.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
The Miami Dolphins, I think probably the best two and
six team I can think of in recent memory. There's
no way their record is reflective of who they are.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Heck no, you know, we'll dive into the preparation once
you and I finish up, but just seeing especially the
spark that two has brought them the last couple of weeks.
You look at two of the better teams in the NFL,
the way they've played over the last few weeks, and
the Cardinals and the Bills, and they're wired to wire
with them. And so they've got great playmakers, they're really
well coached, they've got great players on defense, and so
(23:52):
you know, we've got we've got our work cutout for us.
And it'll be nice to be back at home on
Monday Night, but we got to have a great week
and it's gonna be a great challenge.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Supremely motive team too. When you look at what's left
on their schedule, they still can do it. Buffalo's kind
of running away with that division. But you know they're
gonna bring their best swing.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
No question, and uh and we're gonna hopefully give our
best and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Thanks for talking by Sean. Thanks to enjoy the bonus day,
looking forward to Monday Night football, Sean McVay and The
Coaches Show, always presented by Microsoft Surface
Speaker 3 (24:20):
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