Host Eric Allen is joined by Sirius XM's Jim Miller and CBS Sports' Jonathon Jones to discuss the upcoming 2025 NFL Draft and the future of New York under HC Aaron Glenn and with QB Justin Fields. Miller provides insight into how he expects the top of the first round to shakeout, while Jones predicts how Glenn will use Fields, WR Garrett Wilson and the Jets top offensive weapons this season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Jimmy, so great seeing you again. A hot
day here in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Huh yeah, A lot going on. I mean it's been
a busy offseason. I know for the Jets. It's been
an extremely busy new coach, new GM, new direction in
a lot of ways, new quarterbacks, so a lot to
talk about for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So you just set the table.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You met with the Jets first year GM, Darren Moujie.
What did you pick his brain about today?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think, you know, for him, he's still settling in.
It's only been a couple of months. I do think
he'll work well with Aaron Glenn, you know, but I
think he's just settling in. I think, you know, getting
the scouting staffs for pro days. You know, I doubt
that he's and I asked him about it. He hasn't
had any opportunity to go out for any pro days
because I think we know the proda's are somewhat scripted.
You want to do a lot of personal workouts with guys.
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So it sounds like he's still front office wise, getting
caught up to speed with everything, but has talked quite
a bit with Aaron Glenn about the direction this Jets
team needs to go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you think about the headliners or free agency
starting with both quarterbacks, justin fields offensively Jamie Sherr with
of course Mike Linebacker not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, well one, I know Justin obviously intimately because he
was with the Bears. I work for the Bears. I
think he's tough. I think his teammates respect him. I
do question his preparation. I think he needs to prepare
much better. But you know there was improvement, you know,
from him to move from the Bears to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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how he performed last year. There's no question he's a
top tier talent. The guy does He's got great feet,
he's very athletic. He's got a big arm. I mean,
one time I saw him, he lost to the Denver Bronc.
He probably had one of the most flawless first halfs
I've ever seen of a quarterback. He was sixteen to
seventeen with one throwaway. I mean, that was one game
where you could tell he prepared, He did the preparation,
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and his play really reflected it. I think it's just
now it's about getting more consistency and for him to
have a routine of how he prepares. But as for leadership,
as for toughness, as for work ethic, I think he's
all those things. And then some his teammates really respect him,
and I think that's a big part of it. And
it sounds like the Jets, and at least when I
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talked to Darren, they really like that about justin fields.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What kind of offensive system do you think that the
Jets should run here? With Tanner Engstrand coming over from Detroit,
he was the passing game coordinator over there, and Aaron
Glen kept that talking about it today, is that, hey, listen,
don't forget about the influence of Jim Harbaugh along the
way with angs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, run and play action, and I think if you
look at like Jim Harbaugh JJ McCarthy, Michigan was a
lot of run and play action, you know, and I
think that's always been a balls, you know, back wheel.
I think the Bears should have done a lot more
of that with justin fields and unfortunately that you know,
that was not the case. I think they tried to
run the football the one year they led the league,
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but they didn't call enough play action off of it,
because it opens up a lot of windows when he
got the players, and to me, the Jets have the pieces,
They've got specialty players.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's funny we had a caller the other they call
moving the cheager. Oh there's nobody for him to throw
to him, Like you don't know who Garret Wilson is,
Are you kidding me? I love Malachi Corley, who they drafted.
I think that kid's a big play waiting to happen.
I love the backfield with Breest all I love what
Brayln Allen did do. That kid's a tough kid and
he's a tough load to tackle. So I think, if
you know, if you focus on running the ball and
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then play action, probably last year with Aaron Rodgers, it
didn't happen enough. He's probably checking the things more than
what he should pass wise, when he should stick with
the run. And I think that needs to be an
area of focus. They really need to tap into that more.
And of course then he can play off the boot
legs things that Justin does really well with his legs,
where quarterback draws, where he can take advantage of his
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skill sets and utilize, you know, in more capacity to
make plays and move the chains.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
How do you balance that him taking advantage of his
athleticism where he can just extend plays and then also
just calling the game to him running at times with
the zone reads RPOs the boots.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I laughed because the Bears at that point they had
played the Giants and Brian Dable becomes a head coacher.
They didn't know about Daniel Jones and they're running the
stretch play with Saquon Barkley. They must have called sixteen
bootleg nakeds with Daniel Jones and the Bears couldn't stop it.
I mean, so it is a problem when you create
conflict of interest. You know, you're running outside zone, outside zone,
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woop bootleg, outside zone ooop bootleg you know, and teams
overplay it because Saquon, as we know, probably the Giants
should never have gotten rid of him. He's a problem
to deal with. But there was the play action off
of it with Daniel Jones, who's a mobile guy. Granted
he's no longer with the Giants. We'll see how it
goes with the Colts. I think he'll win that job
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over Richardson. But I think with Justin, you know, it
may not sound pretty and it sounds methodical, but those
things stress out a defense, they really do, and Justin's
really good at both of those things, and he'll get
better at his down the field play action pass. People
don't realize he does have a strong arm. I think
he's very accurate down the field, but he just needs
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more polish as a passer. And I think if he
was broken in the right way, because I personally, again
I worked for the Bears, I don't think they broke
him in properly, you know, I really don't. There were
some steps that were missed in his development, but I
think he's found his footing and I think Justin understands too.
He's got to do a lot of it on his
own too. He's been kind of somewhat scarred from that,
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and he took he was more assertive as a Pittsburgh
Steeler when I talked to Omar Kahn, their general manager.
And now obviously the Jets have had those discussions. I
know they talk around, they talk to coaches. Toughness and
work ethic isn't a problem with Justin. He's been through
some hard knocks, He's learned to couple of different offenses.
He's had some success, he's had some failures as well,
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and now I think he understands the opportunity that's given
with him in New York.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's interesting, though, huh, first round pick in twenty twenty one,
this is already his third team.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, think about Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones. I mean these
coveted high picks. I mean teams are trading these guys
away for a box of peanuts at the end of
the day. And a lot of it is because they
don't know how to develop them, which is a shame
in my mind, but it is what it is. The
requirement to play these guys early, I think is always
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way too soon. Some guys need more maturing, they need
more polished. I'll give you a case in point about
Justin Fields. He never called an offensive play at Ohio
State under Ryan Day. So he arrives with the Bears
and it was a problem getting in a huddle calling
to play because for the listeners out there, a lot
of these college teams are running these RPOs and they're
looking over at the OC all eleven guys turned towards
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the sideline. The coach calls the play and all he
does is clap as hands. At least for c. J. Stroud,
who came after Justin, Ryan Day acknowledged that that was
a problem. So they had call out days where c. J.
Stroud had to call plays, had to spit it out
of his out of his mouth, and he had much
more success down in Houston as a rookie. It took
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Justin probably his first year for the Bears, probably three
quarters of the season to finally get comfortable doing that.
And again, you're asking a young man to lead men.
You know, there's a lot of grown men there and
you know here, you know, for him to.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Call play, it was it was a struggle.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's beyond that now, he's grown so much from that
standpoint that he's beyond that and he's just much more
prepared with where he's at.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Did you like it how they struck that deal with
Surewood before everybody came after him, because that people were
talking about to hey, it's going to have a lot
of suitors and he's going to get decent money in
the market.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, it says a lot about Aaron Glenn identified the talent,
identified the playmaker. You want to retain your own. I
always think that sends a good message in the locker room,
you know, resigning your guys, because it does it can
upset the apple cart when you start paying outsiders for
guys that have really proven themselves that are in the building.
And so I think Aaron credit to him. He knows
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what being a jet is. He's been in that building before.
He understands it. And you know, you want to keep
good players. And I think it's a good message that's
sent to the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
What is your moving the Cheens co hosts Pat Kerwin
think about Aaron Glenn going back.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He's the ar Yeah, he's obviously very excited. He's very proud.
Aaron came over and talked to us today. So they
still remain their lifelong friends and they're connected in a
lot of ways, and just excited for Aaron because I
live in Detroit. I saw his impact on the defenses
and he's had to switch gears a lot of ways.
When Hutchinson got hurt and they lacked the pass rushers,
he changed a lot of things defensively and he was
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very aggressive doing it. So comes with a lot of experience,
comes with a lot of passion, you know, as a
player and a coach, I think much like Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Detroit Liones, he
as a vision, brought a couple of assistants, said that
know what that vision is and what they want to
do for the New York Jets, which I'm sure all
Jets fans are thirsty to turn this around. It's been
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too long. It's been too long.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Jimmy, you're definitely Thursday. How much would that experience in Detroit,
for what they did overall help Aaron in this build
here with the Jets. Can you maybe speak to some
similarities and maybe differences.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't think. I don't think Aaron Glenn will be
scared to think outside the box. And what I mean
by that I look at Dan Campbell his first year
as head coach of the Detroit Lions. People don't realize
he fired as oc he started calling plays and Pat
and I interviewed Dan Campbell. He had never called plays before.
He said that he was outside of his comfort zone,
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but he said, hey, I'm the guy in charge. It's
not looking the way I like. I'm going to go
outside the box and this is what I think needs
to be done. And I think Aaron Glenn will be
fearless that way too, because Detroit went against the grain
in a lot of ways. And I think in how
Dan trusted Aaron about the lack of pass rush they've
had some injuries in the secondary and said, hey, Aaron,
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you figured it out. And Aaron figured it out, and
you know, so, I think he's going to be kind
of fearless in that way that you know, the Jets
that we've been kind of sputtering along for a while.
And I think he'll go in a lot of different
directions that nobody expects because he won't fear making a
wrong decision or being criticized for maybe a decision that
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may work or may bake backfire because things need to
be done differently.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's authentic, he's so true to himself and he's got
conviction in those.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean these won't
be like careless decisions, you know, in my mind, I
mean they're well thought out, you know, with what he
wants to do in his vision. But they're not careless.
But I think he'll think outside the box. I do.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you like it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
In a general sense where they're going with the roster.
There's only five players north of thirty right now, and
three of those guys are specialists. One of those guys
is your backup quarterback in Tyrod Teller, and another guy
is just somebody you brought into got system. Familiarity with
these guys know Josh Reynolds quite well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think when you're rebuilding the team, you do you
start young. I would expect they will draft players. I
wouldn't be shocked if undrafted free agents make the roster
as well, and you play them. You play them because
that's how they learned. Look at green Bay. Green Bay
was one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, and
they throw those kids out there and they play, and
they're getting better and they've gone to the playoffs the
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past couple of years. Granted they didn't go as far
as what they wanted. I look at teams like the Rams.
They had probably had five defensive players that were rookies
that were impact players, and they were terrible early defensively.
I mean, they got shellacked by the Cardinals Indivision opponent.
I think they beat them by like five touchdowns. It
was something ridiculous. But they kept on playing Jared Verse,
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who they drafted first round. They kept on playing Braden Fists,
they played Kitchens and safety, and they said, hey, it's
going to fruits of their labor is going to show
up later in the year. And then all of a sudden,
even in the playoffs, those guys were competing against teams
like Philadelphia, and they're young, and they're a young team,
and I think you got to draft them, you got
to develop them, you got to play them, because that's
how they're going to learn the fastest.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know the draft quite well, what's your take on
number seven, where the Jets are at.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think that, hey, well, there's gonna be good players there,
you know, because the lack of quarterbacks. You know, everybody
assumes it will be the two quarterbacks taken early. Sanders,
I'm not as high in Sanders as I am cam Ward,
but because I mean, look at last year's draft, all
those quarterbacks that got drafted. Those are quality players getting
passed up. And I think we know not all those
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quarterbacks you know, are gonna be wearing gold jackets, you
know what I mean? And typically your first round is
about fourteen to seventeen guys that are true first round players.
So I think at seven there's going to be a true,
truly good player, whether it's a I know a lot
of people talking about the tight end from Penn State,
Tyler Warren's of one year wonder but he's fun to watch,
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you know, He's kind of like Jeremy Shaky the way
he's just he's out there shock at all, just doing
great things with the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And can helping to run in that pass game, right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, little wildcat they ran with him, and he's just
a bruiser. He's out there. He's a football player, kind
of like a mini Gronkowski, just banging guys around. But
there's a lot of good players that are there. A
d line is very good this year. The running backs
are that's a stellar class. Not that the Jets need
running backs, but you know, to me, d line. The
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early offensive linemen are good, and obviously Jets fans saw
Beckton shipped off to Philadelphia and here he is starting
as a guard. You know, never hurts the draft of
the old line and in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, what do you make speaking of that? The tackles
at the top of the draft, people are talking about
Will Campbell.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm fine with moving Olu Fashanu to the left tackle
and then drafting a guy like Membo. Yeah, right out
of Missouri. Yeah, he's a big offensive right tackle. And
Fashanu to me is a left guard anyway, or left
tackle anyway. Right, That's what he was at Penn State,
and that's what he's going to be ultimately in the NFL.
So flop him over, put him at left tackle, and
draft a guy like Membu, and sure enough, your tackle
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spots are a lot better.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, that's where Alu finished the year last year, So
he'll be protecting Justin Field's blindside defensive tackle. How good
is this group because everybody's been talking about it, even
about it for months, And with that being said, the
Jets added a few guys in free agency, including Derek Noddy.
But how much does it come into the equation or
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factor into the equation, I should say that, hey, this
is a good defensive tackle group if there is.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
A gram there. If there is, you know, well even
Walter Nolan, right, I like Walter. That is a slim,
three hundred and five pounder. Yeah, you know, he played
really well down in Mobile, Alabama. But to me, this
draft defensive rushers, there's a lot of good edge rushers.
There's a lot of good defensive tackles in this draft.
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You want to upgrade, there's guys that are there that
are available, and I look at for say, the Lions,
one of their first guys under Dan Campbell is that
Alee McNeil. He was hurt last year, but this past
year he came back from injury and that is a strong, powerful,
impactful defensive tackle. And I think you can never go
wrong in the trenches. If you don't believe me, go
look at the Philadelphia Eagles. They drafted Jalen Carter. He
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didn't follow out the top ten, and that Travis Davis
is starting to play. That's what frees up those guys
on the outside for them to get the sacks that
they had. So two d tackles that make it happen.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We're only a few weeks away. Now, where is the
draft deepest? On Days two to three?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Running back? Like I said, tight end, all the guys
in Mobile, from Mason Taylor at LSU. I mean there's
a lot of good tight ends, Loveless Loveland from Michigan
good tight end. There's probably about ten to third I'd
probably say fourteen tight ends that will be drafted. All
the guys in Mobile running back wise will get drafted again.
Jets don't need running back in my opinion, but it's
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deep at running back, deep at tight end, deep at
edge rush, deep at the D line.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Do you take a developmental passer? Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I've got no problet. I think you're still gonna
get good pass rushers, you know, even in the third round. Yeah,
I mean there's probably five guys that get drafted in
the first round. From Mike Green. Obviously Carter's gonna go
quick from Penn State, but guys like Mike Green. There's
good edge rushers in this draft. Spring, don't. James Pearce
ran a hell of a forty time at for four
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four seven. He'll be an outside backer in a three four,
But three four four three there are really good ed
rushers in this draft.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Great catching up. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the draft
because you know we'll finally get some answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, it'll be fun. Green Bay Get Ready.
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
What do you making the international expansion? Jets fans know
this very well. The Jets played a road game at
Tottenham last year against the Minnesota Vikings. They're going to
go back to Tottenham this year. But the National Football
League just continues to expand its reach all over.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
The globe and it's becoming more of a global sport.
Right more folks around the world are playing American football
than ever before. There's a reason that the NFL has
invested so much in flag football. Now you're going to
get flag football in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight.
And I mentioned that because in twenty thirty two you
have the Olympics in Australia. That is a continent, a
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country that the league has spent an incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Amount of resources on.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I know we all kind of focus on the UK,
and rightly so, but Australia is probably number two in
terms of other markets, and so that is by design,
right You have a Jordan Mylotta that's coming out of there.
You have rugby, it is westernized to a point, there's money,
there's space to play football out there, and then they
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have the Olympics in twenty thirty two, so you want
to get some good momentum built up for twenty eight
We're gonna ultimately see NFL players playing flag football in
the Olympics, whether former or current. That I think that's
gonna happen. And then hopefully you keep that momentum building
for twenty thirty two, and by the time a Roger
Goodell retires or by the time some of these owners
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pass the team down to their errors, we have what
is becoming the fastest growing or the largest sport, probably
short of soccer still at that point. Yeah, of course,
in the world. That's the hope.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Do you think we're gonna get to a point here
sometime soon where every team is gonna play at least
one international game per year?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I know that is the hope, and so the most
expedient way to that is adding an eighteenth game, which
would add a second by week. So now you can
do a whole lot more with the schedule. Right, you
add that eighteenth game. Well, now let's just call that
eighteenth game an international game. You still have the thirty
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two teams, and so they're sixteen games wherever they're going
to be played. If you're playing in an Abu Dhabi,
if you're playing in an Australia, you probably have to
get that bye week after.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
If you are playing in London. A lot of.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Teams now have they go right through that, right, and
so you don't have to do that anymore, right, And
so the league has done a crawl, walk, jog, run,
and that's how they like to go about things.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And so when it comes to international expansion, I think
that we.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Are in the walk to jogging phase.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Probably got you, and then maybe way down the line
a little sprint. Okay, there you go. So let's conclude
here with the little Jets talk. Let's do it your
thoughts justin fields in his fit here and the Jets,
you know, winning in free agency, because we've heard from
multiple people the Steelers wanted him back.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, they did. Uh, there's no question about them. And
if he could have probably could have gone a number
of places. He played really well when he was out there.
A lot of coaches would not have bench justin fields,
and Mike Tomlin did and it paid off to a point, right,
and that you know, we can leave that there. But
I think what the group with the Jets are going
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to have to do is know what he does well
and emphasize that, know what he doesn't do so well,
and try to minimize that. But the other thing is, man,
you're gonna want him to run so much because he's
he's bigger than a lot of.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
People think and twenty seven pounds, he's a truck.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, and just really just solid.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, you know, and he's been doing this since Ohio
State and he goes through you know, you remember, I
think it was the Clemson.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Game and it's like, man, is he's getting rocked out there?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
But I want that guy on my team, And yes
you do, but you also wanted to be healthy and
so you didn't see that so much with the Steelers.
I thought that they harnessed that a little bit last year.
And so if that can continue and he continues to
mature as a thrower, which is still possible for him,
I very much believe, even though he's in what year
six in the NFL, year five or six now, time flies, right, Yeah,
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just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean he's drafted in the first round twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, and so he can still He's not an old
dog who can't be taught new tricks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I think we saw that maturation last year and it
very well can continue.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Interesting spot do you think here with Aaron Glenn in
his first year, GM Darren Mougy in his first year.
I've talked to multiple people here on the ground who
are not affiliated with the Jets, and they say, hey, listen,
the cupboard isn't bare. If you look at the defensive
side of the ball. You got Quinn Williams, you got
Will McDonald's that popped on the scene last year, Jermaine
Johnson coming back from the Achilles. You re signed Sherwood
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the quarterback on defense, he got Quincy Williams. You got
Sauce Gardner leading that secondary. Michael Carter hopefully he's gonna
be healthy for seventeen games this year. I know he's
got a chip on his shoulder. You can go on
the offensive side of the ball. You look at that backfield.
You got some young backs, you got Brice Hall, and
then you got a big time alpha receiver and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Right, let's hope that the offensive line can stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You know, I think that it speaks well the previous
regime that so many of these guys were retained. That
when Aaron Glenn says that we like to move in
silence and in free agency. Look, there's a lot of
ways you can skin a cat. You can go out
there and spend a bunch of money and get into
the playoffs. You can do a whole lot of nothing
get into the playoffs. You can resign your own like
what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have done the last couple
of years. I would argue they have been winning free
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agency the last couple of years, Like you're keeping a
playoff team together doing so really well.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I think that's what the Jets ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's ultimate what they want to do.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And so I think that they're saying, hey, there's some
good bones here and we're not just going to go
out there and throw around money just because this is
our first time in these in these chairs, or just
because okay, we're the Jets and you know there hasn't
been that success on the field, so we're going to
show you in March, and so now it's it's obviously
about going out there and doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I also like the one year deals.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah right, you are hedging your bets and you're not
sitting there saying I know football better than everybody else,
because if you did, you'd sign them to two or
three year deals. You'd say I know about this. You're saying,
these are one year deals, and they are guys who
have been in systems similar to ours, guys that we
have known from previous stops, etc. And so let's just
see how it works out. And I wouldn't at all
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be surprised if while it is working out during the season,
if the culture that Darren, Muji and AG are trying
to build is what ultimately gets built, I would not
at all be surprised to see some ind season extensions.
I don't know if we just talked about that, if
that's not his style or whatever, but you sign all
these one year contracts, show us and we'll show you,
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and then we'll take care.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Of you number seven? Overall? What do you think the spot?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
I'm you know, if you're the Jets, you hope that
as many quarterbacks as possible go before you. Right as
it stands, right now, it seems that only two can right.
Camboard's going one. Shador Sanders could go two, could go three.
The Giants might try to get cute and trade back
a little bit and then maybe try to take him.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
We'll see.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
But if you are the Jets, you want too out
of the six in front of you to be quarterbacks,
and then Abduel Carter will be off the board, Travis
Hunter will be off the board. And so that's where
you're talking about, like like, this is not the world's
greatest draft, and a lot of folks know and understand that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But as much as Team A may say, gosh, this.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Is a great year to trade back, well, so our
team's abc D, Like there's only so much you can
trade back, right, So to be at seven, you were
still in a nice I'm not gonna call it a
catbird seat, but you're in a nice spot. You have
gone out, Like we just talked about one year deals,
so you haven't identified necessarily you're open, right, and so
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I hate the term best player available. I hate it
because it's never actually best player available. You always go
back and say you had that need. All these drafters
said that you had this need, and like you know,
seventy percent of people thought that that person was going
there was it best player available. So but you are
in a position where you actually can't do that because
you have not watched yourself in anything that's too damaging.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
But need could actually mirror with value this time around,
or merry with value, I should say, because a lot
of people are talking maybe Penn State's Tyler warn you
definitely could have added another body in the tight end
room and right tackle. Perhaps you know a lot of
people are fans of Mambou out of Missouri, or maybe
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a Will Campbell out of LSU. And then the defensive tackle.
The Jets added a number of pieces who are going
to play alongside next to Quinn Williams. But you might
want to go defensive tackle. Then here, I want to
double up or a receiver. I know people are talking
about receiver as well.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It's all possible, and there are guys there. You don't
want to fall too back, you want to trade down.
You don't want to go back to fifteen or anything
like that because some of those dudes. There's not necessarily
dudes at that point, but at seven.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're going to get a guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Great scene.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks so much,
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
All right, Jimmy, so great seeing you again. A hot
day here in South Florida.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Huh yeah, A lot going on. I mean it's been
a busy offseason. I know for the Jets. It's been
an extremely busy new coach, new GM, new direction in
a lot of ways, new quarterbacks, so a lot to
talk about for the Jets.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So you just set the table.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You met with the Jets first year GM, Darren Moujie.
What did you pick his brain about today?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I think, you know, for him, he's still settling in.
It's only been a couple of months. I do think
he'll work well with Aaron Glenn, you know, but I
think he's just settling in. I think, you know, getting
the scouting staffs for pro days. You know, I doubt
that he's and I asked him about it. He hasn't
had any opportunity to go out for any pro days
because I think we know the proda's are somewhat scripted.
You want to do a lot of personal workouts with guys.
(01:09):
So it sounds like he's still front office wise, getting
caught up to speed with everything, but has talked quite
a bit with Aaron Glenn about the direction this Jets
team needs to go.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you think about the headliners or free agency
starting with both quarterbacks, justin fields offensively Jamie Sherr with
of course Mike Linebacker not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, well one, I know Justin obviously intimately because he
was with the Bears. I work for the Bears. I
think he's tough. I think his teammates respect him. I
do question his preparation. I think he needs to prepare
much better. But you know there was improvement, you know,
from him to move from the Bears to the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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how he performed last year. There's no question he's a
top tier talent. The guy does He's got great feet,
he's very athletic. He's got a big arm. I mean,
one time I saw him, he lost to the Denver Bronc.
He probably had one of the most flawless first halfs
I've ever seen of a quarterback. He was sixteen to
seventeen with one throwaway. I mean, that was one game
where you could tell he prepared, He did the preparation,
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and his play really reflected it. I think it's just
now it's about getting more consistency and for him to
have a routine of how he prepares. But as for leadership,
as for toughness, as for work ethic, I think he's
all those things. And then some his teammates really respect him,
and I think that's a big part of it. And
it sounds like the Jets, and at least when I
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talked to Darren, they really like that about justin fields.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
What kind of offensive system do you think that the
Jets should run here? With Tanner Engstrand coming over from Detroit,
he was the passing game coordinator over there, and Aaron
Glen kept that talking about it today, is that, hey, listen,
don't forget about the influence of Jim Harbaugh along the
way with angs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, run and play action, and I think if you
look at like Jim Harbaugh JJ McCarthy, Michigan was a
lot of run and play action, you know, and I
think that's always been a balls, you know, back wheel.
I think the Bears should have done a lot more
of that with justin fields and unfortunately that you know,
that was not the case. I think they tried to
run the football the one year they led the league,
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but they didn't call enough play action off of it,
because it opens up a lot of windows when he
got the players, and to me, the Jets have the pieces,
They've got specialty players.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's funny we had a caller the other they call
moving the cheager. Oh there's nobody for him to throw
to him, Like you don't know who Garret Wilson is,
Are you kidding me? I love Malachi Corley, who they drafted.
I think that kid's a big play waiting to happen.
I love the backfield with Breest all I love what
Brayln Allen did do. That kid's a tough kid and
he's a tough load to tackle. So I think, if
you know, if you focus on running the ball and
(03:41):
then play action, probably last year with Aaron Rodgers, it
didn't happen enough. He's probably checking the things more than
what he should pass wise, when he should stick with
the run. And I think that needs to be an
area of focus. They really need to tap into that more.
And of course then he can play off the boot
legs things that Justin does really well with his legs,
where quarterback draws, where he can take advantage of his
(04:03):
skill sets and utilize, you know, in more capacity to
make plays and move the chains.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
How do you balance that him taking advantage of his
athleticism where he can just extend plays and then also
just calling the game to him running at times with
the zone reads RPOs the boots.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I laughed because the Bears at that point they had
played the Giants and Brian Dable becomes a head coacher.
They didn't know about Daniel Jones and they're running the
stretch play with Saquon Barkley. They must have called sixteen
bootleg nakeds with Daniel Jones and the Bears couldn't stop it.
I mean, so it is a problem when you create
conflict of interest. You know, you're running outside zone, outside zone,
(04:40):
woop bootleg, outside zone ooop bootleg you know, and teams
overplay it because Saquon, as we know, probably the Giants
should never have gotten rid of him. He's a problem
to deal with. But there was the play action off
of it with Daniel Jones, who's a mobile guy. Granted
he's no longer with the Giants. We'll see how it
goes with the Colts. I think he'll win that job
(05:01):
over Richardson. But I think with Justin, you know, it
may not sound pretty and it sounds methodical, but those
things stress out a defense, they really do, and Justin's
really good at both of those things, and he'll get
better at his down the field play action pass. People
don't realize he does have a strong arm. I think
he's very accurate down the field, but he just needs
(05:22):
more polish as a passer. And I think if he
was broken in the right way, because I personally, again
I worked for the Bears, I don't think they broke
him in properly, you know, I really don't. There were
some steps that were missed in his development, but I
think he's found his footing and I think Justin understands too.
He's got to do a lot of it on his
own too. He's been kind of somewhat scarred from that,
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and he took he was more assertive as a Pittsburgh
Steeler when I talked to Omar Kahn, their general manager.
And now obviously the Jets have had those discussions. I
know they talk around, they talk to coaches. Toughness and
work ethic isn't a problem with Justin. He's been through
some hard knocks, He's learned to couple of different offenses.
He's had some success, he's had some failures as well,
(06:04):
and now I think he understands the opportunity that's given
with him in New York.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's interesting, though, huh, first round pick in twenty twenty one,
this is already his third team.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, think about Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones. I mean these
coveted high picks. I mean teams are trading these guys
away for a box of peanuts at the end of
the day. And a lot of it is because they
don't know how to develop them, which is a shame
in my mind, but it is what it is. The
requirement to play these guys early, I think is always
(06:33):
way too soon. Some guys need more maturing, they need
more polished. I'll give you a case in point about
Justin Fields. He never called an offensive play at Ohio
State under Ryan Day. So he arrives with the Bears
and it was a problem getting in a huddle calling
to play because for the listeners out there, a lot
of these college teams are running these RPOs and they're
looking over at the OC all eleven guys turned towards
(06:56):
the sideline. The coach calls the play and all he
does is clap as hands. At least for c. J. Stroud,
who came after Justin, Ryan Day acknowledged that that was
a problem. So they had call out days where c. J.
Stroud had to call plays, had to spit it out
of his out of his mouth, and he had much
more success down in Houston as a rookie. It took
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Justin probably his first year for the Bears, probably three
quarters of the season to finally get comfortable doing that.
And again, you're asking a young man to lead men.
You know, there's a lot of grown men there and
you know here, you know, for him to.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Call play, it was it was a struggle.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
He's beyond that now, he's grown so much from that
standpoint that he's beyond that and he's just much more
prepared with where he's at.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Did you like it how they struck that deal with
Surewood before everybody came after him, because that people were
talking about to hey, it's going to have a lot
of suitors and he's going to get decent money in
the market.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, it says a lot about Aaron Glenn identified the talent,
identified the playmaker. You want to retain your own. I
always think that sends a good message in the locker room,
you know, resigning your guys, because it does it can
upset the apple cart when you start paying outsiders for
guys that have really proven themselves that are in the building.
And so I think Aaron credit to him. He knows
(08:12):
what being a jet is. He's been in that building before.
He understands it. And you know, you want to keep
good players. And I think it's a good message that's
sent to the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
What is your moving the Cheens co hosts Pat Kerwin
think about Aaron Glenn going back.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He's the ar Yeah, he's obviously very excited. He's very proud.
Aaron came over and talked to us today. So they
still remain their lifelong friends and they're connected in a
lot of ways, and just excited for Aaron because I
live in Detroit. I saw his impact on the defenses
and he's had to switch gears a lot of ways.
When Hutchinson got hurt and they lacked the pass rushers,
he changed a lot of things defensively and he was
(08:48):
very aggressive doing it. So comes with a lot of experience,
comes with a lot of passion, you know, as a
player and a coach, I think much like Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell, the head coach of the Detroit Liones, he
as a vision, brought a couple of assistants, said that
know what that vision is and what they want to
do for the New York Jets, which I'm sure all
Jets fans are thirsty to turn this around. It's been
(09:10):
too long. It's been too long.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Jimmy, you're definitely Thursday. How much would that experience in Detroit,
for what they did overall help Aaron in this build
here with the Jets. Can you maybe speak to some
similarities and maybe differences.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I don't think. I don't think Aaron Glenn will be
scared to think outside the box. And what I mean
by that I look at Dan Campbell his first year
as head coach of the Detroit Lions. People don't realize
he fired as oc he started calling plays and Pat
and I interviewed Dan Campbell. He had never called plays before.
He said that he was outside of his comfort zone,
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but he said, hey, I'm the guy in charge. It's
not looking the way I like. I'm going to go
outside the box and this is what I think needs
to be done. And I think Aaron Glenn will be
fearless that way too, because Detroit went against the grain
in a lot of ways. And I think in how
Dan trusted Aaron about the lack of pass rush they've
had some injuries in the secondary and said, hey, Aaron,
(10:09):
you figured it out. And Aaron figured it out, and
you know, so, I think he's going to be kind
of fearless in that way that you know, the Jets
that we've been kind of sputtering along for a while.
And I think he'll go in a lot of different
directions that nobody expects because he won't fear making a
wrong decision or being criticized for maybe a decision that
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may work or may bake backfire because things need to
be done differently.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's authentic, he's so true to himself and he's got
conviction in those.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, I think so. I mean these won't
be like careless decisions, you know, in my mind, I
mean they're well thought out, you know, with what he
wants to do in his vision. But they're not careless.
But I think he'll think outside the box. I do.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Do you like it?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
In a general sense where they're going with the roster.
There's only five players north of thirty right now, and
three of those guys are specialists. One of those guys
is your backup quarterback in Tyrod Teller, and another guy
is just somebody you brought into got system. Familiarity with
these guys know Josh Reynolds quite well.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think when you're rebuilding the team, you do you
start young. I would expect they will draft players. I
wouldn't be shocked if undrafted free agents make the roster
as well, and you play them. You play them because
that's how they learned. Look at green Bay. Green Bay
was one of the youngest rosters in the NFL, and
they throw those kids out there and they play, and
they're getting better and they've gone to the playoffs the
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past couple of years. Granted they didn't go as far
as what they wanted. I look at teams like the Rams.
They had probably had five defensive players that were rookies
that were impact players, and they were terrible early defensively.
I mean, they got shellacked by the Cardinals Indivision opponent.
I think they beat them by like five touchdowns. It
was something ridiculous. But they kept on playing Jared Verse,
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who they drafted first round. They kept on playing Braden Fists,
they played Kitchens and safety, and they said, hey, it's
going to fruits of their labor is going to show
up later in the year. And then all of a sudden,
even in the playoffs, those guys were competing against teams
like Philadelphia, and they're young, and they're a young team,
and I think you got to draft them, you got
to develop them, you got to play them, because that's
how they're going to learn the fastest.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
You know the draft quite well, what's your take on
number seven, where the Jets are at.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I think that, hey, well, there's gonna be good players there,
you know, because the lack of quarterbacks. You know, everybody
assumes it will be the two quarterbacks taken early. Sanders,
I'm not as high in Sanders as I am cam Ward,
but because I mean, look at last year's draft, all
those quarterbacks that got drafted. Those are quality players getting
passed up. And I think we know not all those
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quarterbacks you know, are gonna be wearing gold jackets, you
know what I mean? And typically your first round is
about fourteen to seventeen guys that are true first round players.
So I think at seven there's going to be a true,
truly good player, whether it's a I know a lot
of people talking about the tight end from Penn State,
Tyler Warren's of one year wonder but he's fun to watch,
(13:02):
you know, He's kind of like Jeremy Shaky the way
he's just he's out there shock at all, just doing
great things with the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
And can helping to run in that pass game, right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, little wildcat they ran with him, and he's just
a bruiser. He's out there. He's a football player, kind
of like a mini Gronkowski, just banging guys around. But
there's a lot of good players that are there. A
d line is very good this year. The running backs
are that's a stellar class. Not that the Jets need
running backs, but you know, to me, d line. The
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early offensive linemen are good, and obviously Jets fans saw
Beckton shipped off to Philadelphia and here he is starting
as a guard. You know, never hurts the draft of
the old line and in the trenches.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, what do you make speaking of that? The tackles
at the top of the draft, people are talking about
Will Campbell.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I'm fine with moving Olu Fashanu to the left tackle
and then drafting a guy like Membo. Yeah, right out
of Missouri. Yeah, he's a big offensive right tackle. And
Fashanu to me is a left guard anyway, or left
tackle anyway. Right, That's what he was at Penn State,
and that's what he's going to be ultimately in the NFL.
So flop him over, put him at left tackle, and
draft a guy like Membu, and sure enough, your tackle
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spots are a lot better.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, that's where Alu finished the year last year, So
he'll be protecting Justin Field's blindside defensive tackle. How good
is this group because everybody's been talking about it, even
about it for months, And with that being said, the
Jets added a few guys in free agency, including Derek Noddy.
But how much does it come into the equation or
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factor into the equation, I should say that, hey, this
is a good defensive tackle group if there is.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
A gram there. If there is, you know, well even
Walter Nolan, right, I like Walter. That is a slim,
three hundred and five pounder. Yeah, you know, he played
really well down in Mobile, Alabama. But to me, this
draft defensive rushers, there's a lot of good edge rushers.
There's a lot of good defensive tackles in this draft.
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You want to upgrade, there's guys that are there that
are available, and I look at for say, the Lions,
one of their first guys under Dan Campbell is that
Alee McNeil. He was hurt last year, but this past
year he came back from injury and that is a strong, powerful,
impactful defensive tackle. And I think you can never go
wrong in the trenches. If you don't believe me, go
look at the Philadelphia Eagles. They drafted Jalen Carter. He
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didn't follow out the top ten, and that Travis Davis
is starting to play. That's what frees up those guys
on the outside for them to get the sacks that
they had. So two d tackles that make it happen.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
We're only a few weeks away. Now, where is the
draft deepest? On Days two to three?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Running back? Like I said, tight end, all the guys
in Mobile, from Mason Taylor at LSU. I mean there's
a lot of good tight ends, Loveless Loveland from Michigan
good tight end. There's probably about ten to third I'd
probably say fourteen tight ends that will be drafted. All
the guys in Mobile running back wise will get drafted again.
Jets don't need running back in my opinion, but it's
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deep at running back, deep at tight end, deep at
edge rush, deep at the D line.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Do you take a developmental passer? Uh?
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, I've got no problet. I think you're still gonna
get good pass rushers, you know, even in the third round. Yeah,
I mean there's probably five guys that get drafted in
the first round. From Mike Green. Obviously Carter's gonna go
quick from Penn State, but guys like Mike Green. There's
good edge rushers in this draft. Spring, don't. James Pearce
ran a hell of a forty time at for four
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four seven. He'll be an outside backer in a three four,
But three four four three there are really good ed
rushers in this draft.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Great catching up. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the draft
because you know we'll finally get some answers to the test.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, it'll be fun. Green Bay Get Ready.
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
What do you making the international expansion? Jets fans know
this very well. The Jets played a road game at
Tottenham last year against the Minnesota Vikings. They're going to
go back to Tottenham this year. But the National Football
League just continues to expand its reach all over.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
The globe and it's becoming more of a global sport.
Right more folks around the world are playing American football
than ever before. There's a reason that the NFL has
invested so much in flag football. Now you're going to
get flag football in the Olympics in twenty twenty eight.
And I mentioned that because in twenty thirty two you
have the Olympics in Australia. That is a continent, a
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country that the league has spent an incredible.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Amount of resources on.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I know we all kind of focus on the UK,
and rightly so, but Australia is probably number two in
terms of other markets, and so that is by design,
right You have a Jordan Mylotta that's coming out of there.
You have rugby, it is westernized to a point, there's money,
there's space to play football out there, and then they
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have the Olympics in twenty thirty two, so you want
to get some good momentum built up for twenty eight
We're gonna ultimately see NFL players playing flag football in
the Olympics, whether former or current. That I think that's
gonna happen. And then hopefully you keep that momentum building
for twenty thirty two, and by the time a Roger
Goodell retires or by the time some of these owners
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pass the team down to their errors, we have what
is becoming the fastest growing or the largest sport, probably
short of soccer still at that point. Yeah, of course,
in the world. That's the hope.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Do you think we're gonna get to a point here
sometime soon where every team is gonna play at least
one international game per year?
Speaker 5 (18:37):
I know that is the hope, and so the most
expedient way to that is adding an eighteenth game, which
would add a second by week. So now you can
do a whole lot more with the schedule. Right, you
add that eighteenth game. Well, now let's just call that
eighteenth game an international game. You still have the thirty
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two teams, and so they're sixteen games wherever they're going
to be played. If you're playing in an Abu Dhabi,
if you're playing in an Australia, you probably have to
get that bye week after.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
If you are playing in London. A lot of.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Teams now have they go right through that, right, and
so you don't have to do that anymore, right, And
so the league has done a crawl, walk, jog, run,
and that's how they like to go about things.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
And so when it comes to international expansion, I think
that we.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Are in the walk to jogging phase.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Probably got you, and then maybe way down the line
a little sprint. Okay, there you go. So let's conclude
here with the little Jets talk. Let's do it your
thoughts justin fields in his fit here and the Jets,
you know, winning in free agency, because we've heard from
multiple people the Steelers wanted him back.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, they did. Uh, there's no question about them. And
if he could have probably could have gone a number
of places. He played really well when he was out there.
A lot of coaches would not have bench justin fields,
and Mike Tomlin did and it paid off to a point, right,
and that you know, we can leave that there. But
I think what the group with the Jets are going
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to have to do is know what he does well
and emphasize that, know what he doesn't do so well,
and try to minimize that. But the other thing is, man,
you're gonna want him to run so much because he's
he's bigger than a lot of.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
People think and twenty seven pounds, he's a truck.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, and just really just solid.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Yeah, you know, and he's been doing this since Ohio
State and he goes through you know, you remember, I
think it was the Clemson.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Game and it's like, man, is he's getting rocked out there?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
But I want that guy on my team, And yes
you do, but you also wanted to be healthy and
so you didn't see that so much with the Steelers.
I thought that they harnessed that a little bit last year.
And so if that can continue and he continues to
mature as a thrower, which is still possible for him,
I very much believe, even though he's in what year
six in the NFL, year five or six now, time flies, right, Yeah,
(21:05):
just a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean he's drafted in the first round twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Yeah, and so he can still He's not an old
dog who can't be taught new tricks.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
I think we saw that maturation last year and it
very well can continue.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Interesting spot do you think here with Aaron Glenn in
his first year, GM Darren Mougy in his first year.
I've talked to multiple people here on the ground who
are not affiliated with the Jets, and they say, hey, listen,
the cupboard isn't bare. If you look at the defensive
side of the ball. You got Quinn Williams, you got
Will McDonald's that popped on the scene last year, Jermaine
Johnson coming back from the Achilles. You re signed Sherwood
(21:40):
the quarterback on defense, he got Quincy Williams. You got
Sauce Gardner leading that secondary. Michael Carter hopefully he's gonna
be healthy for seventeen games this year. I know he's
got a chip on his shoulder. You can go on
the offensive side of the ball. You look at that backfield.
You got some young backs, you got Brice Hall, and
then you got a big time alpha receiver and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Right, let's hope that the offensive line can stay healthy.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
You know, I think that it speaks well the previous
regime that so many of these guys were retained. That
when Aaron Glenn says that we like to move in
silence and in free agency. Look, there's a lot of
ways you can skin a cat. You can go out
there and spend a bunch of money and get into
the playoffs. You can do a whole lot of nothing
get into the playoffs. You can resign your own like
what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have done the last couple
of years. I would argue they have been winning free
(22:24):
agency the last couple of years, Like you're keeping a
playoff team together doing so really well.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I think that's what the Jets ultimately want to do.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's ultimate what they want to do.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
And so I think that they're saying, hey, there's some
good bones here and we're not just going to go
out there and throw around money just because this is
our first time in these in these chairs, or just
because okay, we're the Jets and you know there hasn't
been that success on the field, so we're going to
show you in March, and so now it's it's obviously
about going out there and doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I also like the one year deals.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah right, you are hedging your bets and you're not
sitting there saying I know football better than everybody else,
because if you did, you'd sign them to two or
three year deals. You'd say I know about this. You're saying,
these are one year deals, and they are guys who
have been in systems similar to ours, guys that we
have known from previous stops, etc. And so let's just
see how it works out. And I wouldn't at all
(23:14):
be surprised if while it is working out during the season,
if the culture that Darren, Muji and AG are trying
to build is what ultimately gets built, I would not
at all be surprised to see some ind season extensions.
I don't know if we just talked about that, if
that's not his style or whatever, but you sign all
these one year contracts, show us and we'll show you,
(23:36):
and then we'll take care.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Of you number seven? Overall? What do you think the spot?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
I'm you know, if you're the Jets, you hope that
as many quarterbacks as possible go before you. Right as
it stands, right now, it seems that only two can right.
Camboard's going one. Shador Sanders could go two, could go three.
The Giants might try to get cute and trade back
a little bit and then maybe try to take him.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
We'll see.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
But if you are the Jets, you want too out
of the six in front of you to be quarterbacks,
and then Abduel Carter will be off the board, Travis
Hunter will be off the board. And so that's where
you're talking about, like like, this is not the world's
greatest draft, and a lot of folks know and understand that.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
But as much as Team A may say, gosh, this.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Is a great year to trade back, well, so our
team's abc D, Like there's only so much you can
trade back, right, So to be at seven, you were
still in a nice I'm not gonna call it a
catbird seat, but you're in a nice spot. You have
gone out, Like we just talked about one year deals,
so you haven't identified necessarily you're open, right, and so
(24:48):
I hate the term best player available. I hate it
because it's never actually best player available. You always go
back and say you had that need. All these drafters
said that you had this need, and like you know,
seventy percent of people thought that that person was going
there was it best player available. So but you are
in a position where you actually can't do that because
you have not watched yourself in anything that's too damaging.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
But need could actually mirror with value this time around,
or merry with value, I should say, because a lot
of people are talking maybe Penn State's Tyler warn you
definitely could have added another body in the tight end
room and right tackle. Perhaps you know a lot of
people are fans of Mambou out of Missouri, or maybe
(25:31):
a Will Campbell out of LSU. And then the defensive tackle.
The Jets added a number of pieces who are going
to play alongside next to Quinn Williams. But you might
want to go defensive tackle. Then here, I want to
double up or a receiver. I know people are talking
about receiver as well.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
It's all possible, and there are guys there. You don't
want to fall too back, you want to trade down.
You don't want to go back to fifteen or anything
like that because some of those dudes. There's not necessarily
dudes at that point, but at seven.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're going to get a guy.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Great scene.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Appreciate it. Thanks, thanks so much,
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