December 10, 2024 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
At the Star.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Now your hosts, Barry Church, Hecma Harrison, and NEWI Scrugs.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Here we are. It is Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Everybody in the day after Mondaday had Football's the Dallas
Cowboys Cincinnati Bengals got together in Cherry World and we
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inviting me to come on in the Cowboys Safety. It's
on the team of Barry Church and the Yeah, tell
us some special teams, NEWI Scrugs and Peter.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Wait, so let's just hit it right there. Okay, the
game twenty block the punt.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And when you say Peter, because you play college football
at the highest level, so explain it. Because it is
in college football, it is in professional football.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What Peter means.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
It means get the hell away. That's what it means.
When you hear Peter. It means, no matter what you do,
you see ball near, you do not touch it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Get away. Peter.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That is as universal a word as you could ever
hear on a football field. I don't care on what
level you hear it. Peter get Away. And that was
the heartbreak though. The heartbreak of that game was you
missed every opportunity to possibly win it outright. Initially offensively,
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you struggle, but it came down to a special teams play.
Now we know today that there was no such block.
It wasn't a block called missed assignment. You come through
Scott Free, you make a block, you do, you make
a play.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's just what you're doing. There's no thinking about that,
all right.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But the rules state tip ball goes past line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It is what lie.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Is it live?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's five.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And the thing is like, to me, I don't insult
nobody's intelligence that plays in the National Football League. I
won't because I believe you know, the rule ain't no
what it is, no way, there's no way you go
out there and you play. And in that situation that
you did not have situational awareness to know that if
you touch this ball, what was going to ensue from
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that moment for somebody made a bone headed play. Barry Church, Yeah, man,
it was it was bone headed, and I refuse to
believe that bone's fossil didn't go through this in camp
ot as practices where even if you get a block,
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tip tip the ball block and it goes past the
line of scrimmage. That's, like you said, that's on all levels,
high school, college pros. Literally you saying, Peter, don't touch
the football because there's nothing that good can come out
of that. Nothing good can come out of you touching
the football once it's blocked and it goes past the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All the punt team can do is down it the glory.
That's all they can do is down the ball. There's
no reason for you to touch.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
That glory and that unless unless there's no one near you,
you're twenty yards away from everybody, and your name is
come oft the turpid, then you can touch the football
and pick it up.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Other than that, let that thing go. But we've seen it.
This ain't the first time. No, it's not with the
Dallas Cowboys that we've seen special teams say you know what,
I'm gonna put this on my shoulders. This is my opportunity, right,
I could do I could do it. I believe believe
in me. I know we got an offense. I know
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we got a defense, but you know what special teams.
We're gonna hold it down right here? Ye ain't Thomas?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I believe I.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Saw a look, got the look, got the look. I'm
gonna go ahead call this. We're gonna do a pass
on the word was activated? Activate, got activate look activated?
He saw the look? So is he activated? Another opportunity? Washington.
A couple of weeks ago, all you had to catch
security on side, can get down, game over?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You know what? This is my turn. I got the
ball tucked high and tight. I'm out of here. I'm
going for a touchdown. That's another number, and then and
then this time, and I feel.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So bad for my guy. I don't want to butcher
his name all over. Ala Wari, Halla Wari. I don't
want to Ali Wari. Come on, man, what did you
think was gonna happen? You gonna you gonna Scooper score?
Make a couple of guys miss high step into the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Because this is an issue.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And they said it good on the Dallas Cowboys broadcast
and they were talking about something else, but Babe Loockpers said,
problems you can fix issues are not fixable.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We have special teams issues. As you look at this
whole season.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And when I saw the play, I posted on social media.
This is how bad teams get beat. What have we
seen about the Kansas City Chiefs the last month?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They keep fighting.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
That's what good teams. They don't beat themselves.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's what a super Bowl team is. We're gonna figure
it out. You know, it ain't looking good, but we're
gonna sneak out of the bear trap. You too young
to remember this, but back in the day, remember the
Boston Celtic's always found some kind of way to win
a game. Larry Birds and DJ just right here, like
god it again, don't come on it. That's what they do.
Just hate Duke basketball still do by the way and win.
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That's what they do. That's what the good teams do.
I'm doug on it. Pittsburgh Steelers, Patriots Super fourteen, like
they going down. They're going down to the rams and
you know what, boom snuck out of it. Next thing
you Star Wars. The good ones do that. The bad
ones do this last night. So that's what happened when
I saw the punt block, and then okay, It's not
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just the block the punt and then you touch it
and then they get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's the forty touchdown passed.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I was give it. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now I got to
ask this question because I know your man is the
one out in LA, but yesterday you had a front
row seat to actually see Joe Burrow. We've had this
Joe Burrow discussion on this show several times. Barry Church
after actually seeing the surgery with no anesthesia that was
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performed yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But Joe Burrow, what say you? What say you up about?
Cool Joe? Not Joe cool cool Joe.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
He's unreal. Yeah, he's the way he was. Michael Parsons
and them dudes was breathing down.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
His back the entire game.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
This man had As soon as he snapped the ball,
I gotta make something move And it wasn't like he
was scrambling the way he manipulated.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
The pocket and was able to step up.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And I know number ones down there somewhere, and the
how many comebacks can you get beat?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Then?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Come on, man, look at the time you look, but
I need you to go further. It's not just that Okay,
it's not just the comebacks. Man, you have been here.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We've been preaching Borough for years. Okay, But what I
want to hear you say is after you saw it live. Yeah, yeah,
for sure and in person. Yeah, that Joe Burrow is
better than Justin Herbert. That's what I need you to see.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I say that, but I mean he's unreal. Come on
in a man's five and eight, man, come on that. Okay,
best receiver with that offensive line with no coaching. We
seen them do it before.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Man took them to a Super Bowl three years and
had the ball.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
In his hands going down the field until the old
line got exposed and somebody they decided that Aaron Donald
wasn't worth double team.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't know who did that. Joe Burrow is elite.
Justin Herbert is good. Joe Burrow is Burrow is elite.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Let me just say, let me let me say that
I leave because I'm not gonna open that. I'm not
gonna argue with you because I know how you, I
know how your loyalty flows, so I'm not gonna do
that to the show.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
You can't no, no, no, no, if the if the
Bengals defense was twenty percent better. The Bengals would be
a problem today in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, they'd be back in the super Bowl again.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I'm just saying, based off, based off of what I
see with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati. There there are two
great quarterbacks in the NFL. Joe Burrow is one of them,
and the other guy you can't even argue with. Just
I'm sitting out there watching, I'm telling my son. With
me and my son, we're at the game, and I
took his phone, give me your phone, but I put
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this one.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You need to see this right, This is surgery.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Son.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Do you see this? He throwing the ball. He's throwing
the ball.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Before the receiver even comes out of his break and
make you ask yourself, what the hell who are he
throwing to? And in this industry we try and put
cumps together all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Who is the COUMP for this guy?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
This guy isn't?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
There is no there's no one to compare. And you
be doing yourself disservice to all those greats as well,
because this young man is absolutely off the charts when
it comes down to arm strength, his ability to maneuver
the pocket, uh, throwing on the run, throwing state, I
mean stationary, all of that his receivers.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If I'm a receiver in the national.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
In college, I pray to God that you come to
the to the podium and tell me to go to Cincinnati,
then I'm going because of the way, I mean Yoshi
or whoever the Yoshi vash see, Higgins.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Left a lot of food on his plate. Did he
even get a catch? He did? But how many did
he drop?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
This is what I've always found interesting about Joe Burrow.
How good were those practices that Dwayne Haskins beat him
out at Ohio?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh my god? How what was that like?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Is they were going in practice and just like yeah, bruh,
you're good. But but we going with him? And you know,
Haskins was at Ohio's date. I forget what prose Ohio
State was putting it on. So nobody was like, hey man,
you know Joe Burrow left. Nobody cried he have a
right up on it. It was just it was just
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Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
L s U.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, so did they bring up this? Uh? My buddy
was coaching in Texas.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He was dB coach in Texas when LSU went down
there at Austin. They played a great game, okay, bothing
back and forth, and so Pace tells me the next day,
like in the film session charm Hermit just killing them all, gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Ain't no good, no coaching, just wanting to bench fla me.
He just all of it. And my boy did he
because hey, man, they're good. This dude is I mean, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Just addressing him, going crazy, and he's like, those are
NFL guys, and lo and behold the end of the
year average fifty, you know, arguably the greatest offensive football
team of all time.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Burrow wins the Heisman, you know, chases chases.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
The first Jeffers so fair think about running back is
the first round and Dom Herman went out there and
just killed my boy to dB coach mad as hell
at him and he's and he's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Literally, they're good, man, This was a really good team.
Like they're going to do this all year long. And
then come to find out, ya, Herman got.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They did to all pro corners yesterday, all Pro Pro
Bowl good players. These are all.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Pro And you, as a former defensive back, you look
at the job that Digs and Bland and Lewis did.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
They was fighting to the right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There the ball place, the wide receiver pack tipped to
the defense man was there, and they could have got
to fifty every time.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Hold it out there you see arms rubbing over it,
just holding out step out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The first you tell me when you saw the first touchdown,
I said to myself, he's just good. The Chase is
just good. It's and obviously you know because you were
an NFL dB. Hey man, sometimes it's just man that
he's just good. It's kind of like, you know, hey,
you put all this defense on Jordan, Oh, Michael, okay, whatever,
(12:33):
Nothing I could do.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He just good. Ball placement is there. It's accurate, like
a Treitman football. It is accurate. He's Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
He just there's nothing digs like I'm not looking at
these like, oh man, you stink no, no, that that's
this is what great And we don't see we actually
maybe the worst elite because this is like you you know,
you top three, like you chas is it there? You
can't he there cowboys at all. They could do Mike
(13:00):
Zimmers even they did their job, But at.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What point are you gonna double the man? Like that's
what we say. We did all he could do. Man,
you it was blind.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I understand they're all pros and they got to suit
up to the challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I get it, But.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
At what point are you like, man, look one underneath
one over top. We're playing nine on the level because
nobody else was doing anything. Yoshi put a couple of
catches here and there. See Higgins ain't had nothing. Like,
At what point.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Are you saying, you know what, this dude is unstoppable.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
We're gonna put a corner right underneath them at a
safety on top because I'm looking, at what point? At
one point you gotta treat this man like this dude
is like mass out here right now to us, Like,
y'all see that y'all was there?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, crazy in Texas.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Second, at what point are you like cause the game
win the forty yarders?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It was blad in Chase, but because when he missed
that tackle, there was nobody else over there. You at
what point are you like? You know prior to side boy,
you get double team.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I don't care if the corners are they're saying, I
want this, I want going to You don't want this challenge,
you don't want to come on over. I'd have been like,
I'm on top, bro, yeah out here what you say?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I still think that defense like that was enough. They
did enough, like a defense, the defense they did. The offense,
the play calling, that's your issue there. Let's get a
break break. We can talk about the offense and the
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Speaker 4 (17:45):
Cincinnati went to twenty seven twenty when we did the pics,
I had Cincinnati thirty one twenty seven. Church, you had
Cincinnati thirty five twenty one. Heck, you had Dallas twenty
four to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Sh I was right there, right right there, waiting. I
had ready ann to put out. He was like he
turn on the store about here.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He was getting Walter White out there. Boy, y'all was nervous.
Y'all was nervous. Was nervous, double thud like. I was like, Oh,
they're really about to.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Chase going in there? God him, so.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Come back over. I was with Michael second, let get
out of here. He was from out of here.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Friday year, Yes, Friday, put Michael from out of here.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Man came, I've done that in the park a couple
of times. Take my body, Goren. I don't know how
you're gonna play, but I'm gone, I'll go to leave it.
We did our NFA picks. I missed two games last week.
Wrong on Arizona Seattle because I took Arizona and I
took took Josh Allen and lost in that RAM game.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think I tooked und Church.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
You took the Rams, but you were wrong because you
took the charges over Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And you took call of duty and you lost the game.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Heck, but you were rolling, but then you picked Buffalo
as well, and then you picked the Cowboys, so we
both lost two games.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I was rolling, well, I went with my hearts. I
ain't doing They didn't put me all the way to
the edge. The Bengals are who we thought they were.
Let them out the hook.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
One play away, one play away had it one. After
all of that, after all of that, after all of that,
Joe bro were talking about Jamar Chase, after all of
that surgery, after all of that, after my man, Cooper
Rush is disappearing.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He was off fault. He was bad. He was bad.
The first drive.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I was like, you know what, he make it look
a little easy. Look he was missing wide open. You
were there, you didn't get the TV copy. You was
watching it, like, yo, he's missing. He's comming. I mean
strength man, like you saw his balls just kind of fluttering.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
There's no like zip, y'all see it, there's no zip
to it. Off.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
He could have had about three picks, yes, yes, that
and the one in the on the gold in the
red zone. I mean four bangles over there. I had
a chance at it.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Let's have let's have a quick conversation about let's do it.
He's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
After I said, man, he's a solid back, like he's
one of he gotta be one of the top backups
international Football League.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
If you if he's not.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
A guy that's gonna come in and save your season
like we saw obviously this year, but spot duty, he
can come and get you a victory or two or three.
So I think he's a decent backup. You know, he's
just not a guy that can be the franchise.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Last night, he needed him to be better and he wasn't.
He needed you needed this and this was this was
a bad defense.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now, thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's the point. Okay, that's the point. It's not we
don't ask you to do this versus Baltimore. We're not
asking you to I mean, this is a they were gettable.
They were gettable and and oh my God, you running.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Rico Dattle was going crazy? What eighteen one thirty one
for Rico? Are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
We were talking about balance, We were talking about balance
all last week. How this could you couldn't get into
a shootout. You maintained according to script, you did everything
that you needed to do. What happens too late in
the game where you come out and you blunder those possessions.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Cooper was all you was offul Man. He couldn't hit,
he couldn't hit nothing. He was awful.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I'll get he was awful, you know, and in a
backup situation, but he's a backup quarterback. And at the
end of the day, it was a blunder on specialty.
You know, if Ala wal don't go in there and
try to be Superman.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But you're both correct.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Okay, you're correct about the punt and heck's correct about
you was awful, Coop us. This is a bad defense
and so this is this is where you're supposed to
get this done against a bad defense.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And if you can't do it here, are you going
to keep investing in this or do you.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Decide to go look at what else where else can
we go and try to improve on this.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm not saying Trey Lance is the answer. But at
some point in time, now this thing is done. You're
five and eight.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Thus wrap.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So so as you start to look at twenty five,
how are you going to Jerry talked about when he's
still trying to stick a rush?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But for what? Right for who? For what? For who?
For what?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mean, figure out what what do you have so
you can do something with this position. But you just
did not see enough. This is a bad football team defensively,
the Bengals were bad defense.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, you gotta be able, like you said, you gotta
be able to take advantage.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I feel like man.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Because McCarthy, I feel like he was pushing or dialing
the right buttons out there. I mean, play call was shaky.
But the run game, they had a balance attack. You
Rico got his fill out there. I think he had
like a buck thirty something on the ground or it
was a balanced attack. Cooper, he just he didn't have
his best game. He did not have his best game
by far. But I feel like they did enough offensively
(23:46):
and defensively against a team like the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's averaging thirty some points a game.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You hold them until that last chase, you hold them
to twenty points.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You go in there and get the block specialty. But
go back to what Happen has been saying throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
If Cooper Rush is able to take some advantage of
some of these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You're not even in this game. You're not even.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
It's not as close as it is because you're driving
on this defense, You're you're moving up and down the field.
You're just not able in points out the ball. Yeah,
stab yourself, you know, because you you put yourself in
a position where you cost him. And I think any
quarterback where this salt understands ball security when you get
down to the red zone is foremost not that it
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isn't the whole game, but especially in those situations but
late in the game. And that's why, like for Mike McCarthy,
I'm just like, you can't separate him from the office
because he's the play caller.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
He's the play caller. So when you're the play call.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
In that situation, and we had to go back to
these decisions where your office is struggling, but you're still
throwing the ball, Like come on, Mike, I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'm with you. I could feel that the add of pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Even when the roof was open, I could still feel
the pressure that you was under. But come on, now,
turn and hand that ball to Rico Dalo because he's
rewarding you. Our offensive line is a makeshift offensive line.
Cooper BB goes out with the concussion in the first half,
and he was having a hell of a game. Brock Hoffman,
for all the titles and everything that they put on
him trying to build him up, dude, dude comes in
(25:13):
and plays center and does it. Still does a damn
good job and playing the center position, and still your
offense is rolling. But in those moments right there, we
asked the best of the best. I asked you, I said, man,
what is it why you can't why you can't hook
your kaboos to this coaching staff. He was like, in
those moments, it's the moments that you're looking for, and
it's that moment, that very slim moment right there where
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you had a chance to make a difference in this game,
in the play call and probably cost you down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
And that's when you get back to the conversation about
a Cooper Rush, you want to sign up for another
year of this? And you look at Mike McCarthy, do
you want to sign up for more of this? These
are the questions that you have to ask. This was
a gettable game against an elite quarterback. I just and
you couldn't get it cut. But this is what bad
teams do.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Canshoo this question though.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You know, we look at talent, and we look at
Cincinnati what they have on offense and their receiving corps,
guys like T Higgins, Joe Shi Vash and in their
tight end man, we don't aside from CD Lamb, who
else is it? Who else is there that you could
say can take some of the pressure off of coverage
for a guy like CD. Even if what you're talking about,
(26:24):
what you're saying with Jamar Chase, why didn't they double
Jamar Chase? Well, you don't double Jamart because you know
T Higgas gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So yeah, but I'm just hell, but.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's gonna happen. Somebody gonna get this. You know, you
have a quarterback that's willing to do it. But when
you have a quarterback that's struggling and he's trying to
find guys, and he's definitely trying to find the main target,
which is Cede Lamb.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Who else is there?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I mean, you're just not getting any production from anybody else,
not numbered eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This is true.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I thought I thought Brad Sham did a real nice job.
But telling the truth about Jay October, he's like, hey man,
that's been disappointing. Yeah, he said after the camp he
expected him to do more. He thought he could be
a number two. It's like he's not number three, number two,
and he hasn't been that guy. But I go back
to what many of those who had been out at
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camp had been saying, it's CD and the Maybies, it's not.
This is not it and you know one of those
great Stephen Jones on it. We like our guys, Brandon
Cooks is he was injured and let's just be honest.
That's been a nine million dollar bad that's been bad
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money right there. Cooks has not been the player you
thought he was going to be. Tolbert not the players
you thought he was gonna be. So you're two and
three have failed you. And then everything else they were
trying to put behind that has not worked out either.
That's that is so so for the the amount of
criticism Dak Prescott got he's not this, He's not that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's been CD and the Maybies and the media has
said it. The media who who? Who questioned? What are
you doing? The running back spot?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Why did it take so long for you to say, Hey,
Rico Daddell, here's some more care. Why did it take
so long to say, hey, let's get Turpin involved offensive?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
As much as I stood on the table for Mike
last year and the job he did, I have to
be fair in my assessment and say, you know what
this this this year has been a regression. You can
try and argue about what the carpenter's tools are, but
at some point in time you got to use the tools,
and you're finding out way too late some of the
tools that you need.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
We go down on one thirty one last night.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I know the Bengals defense isn't good, but where could
you have been if you had been trying to give
this young man more opportunities?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Where were you?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Where were you at and not realizing that what Comante
Turpin is doing now these opportunities, this is what he
been doing to TCU. They've been giving the guy the
football in space and letting him just be a mismatch nightmare.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's what they gotta get.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Get back to screens, slants, the little buff the sweeps
with some don't give this man a lie down down
the field.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
How many times have we.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Seen one on one they're gonna throw it up the
turbine like he's six ' five, which he was.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They did it again last week, and I'm I'm just saying,
and I don't Mike knows the personnel. I know he
knows this, but who's drawing that up four or five
eight receiver?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
This is this is what this is. This is what
gets you. This is what this is how you say
goodbye bye. You're helping yourself.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Cannot understanding. Look, it's taking ric o'doddo regardless how you found.
I'm not trying to down anybody. I'm just saying thirteen.
It's taking him thirteen games. He has been the source
of a lot of frustration of just not being able
to see and identify the whole and get through it.
His running style was not made for this offensive line
he's had because the blocking hadn't got better. You had
you didn't have a better offensive line. Out there yesterday, right,
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So I mean, what what changed about ric o'dado in
this game that you didn't see in the Detroit game?
That you didn't see it? So that's all I'm saying. Look,
I think he's doing he's running better. Matter of fact,
his running style I think fits perfectly to the offensive
line that he has. But man, come on, now, let's
just let's not act like rick o'daldo started the season
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off hot like this, carrying the ball like what I'm
seeing right now I wish I saw at the beginning
of the season. Is all I'm saying. The rhythm that
he's getting into now he looks like a damn better
running back now.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So I come back to this, It's about opportunities Church,
you played this game. It's about being able to play,
get opportunities and get a rhythm as a running back
goes none of what they did this year at the
running back position from the start.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Can't argue with that. I can't argue what's the plan, strategy?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You come the strategy, you get the strategy, and it's
just like m and so by the time you figured out.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
What it is you want to do, you're late in
the game and you're just.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Like or Or you figure out that Brandon Cooks is
a step slower he's supposed to be to take the
top off threat.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Now he hurt you know, he hurt me, hurt so
and and Tolbert. You know, look, man, you got your.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Opportunities, the opportunity you didn't do anything with it. So yeah,
it's it's it's.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
This is the kind of stuff that Jerry has to
look at the end of the year and make a
decision on do I want more years of this? And
if I do, how do I change it? How do
I improve the roster so he's better? Yeah, they're guys.
I mean right now, you can't bring back Randon Cooks.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
No, you can't bring him back.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
If Jalen Tolbert comes back, he needs to be looked
at as a number three, not not as a the
dude on the other side of cdee lamb.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So you have you you need a number two wide receiver.
You're running back room.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You can bring Rico Daddle back, but you can't bring
back EZEKIELI.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
It no, No, I mean it's you need you need
more help in that room.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, no, you do. Can we say something about over
shown let's let's hit a y, hit the breaking. Come
back this, let's hit the breaking and dive in, dive
into what.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Happened to that forefront receiver?
Speaker 7 (32:18):
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Speaker 2 (32:26):
Man?
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Man?
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Speaker 4 (35:08):
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the Cincinnati Bengals on.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Jerry World scraped. I was bringing that back. I see Barry.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Churchway safeties here as Church tried to Warren Heckman, don't
do it, get on it, stay away one play away,
one play away.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you, Olive, my man. That's why you get off
that narcotic sir. I tried, I tried. You knew they
were going to I was I was good for a
long time. Then in two wins, like did anybody interview
my mask? Alli like and just asking like.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Man, what No, they escorted him out. I think they
got you know, they got him away from the media.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What would you like, come on?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Would there would have been There was nothing that he
could have said after of that game that would have
satisfied you. And I'm glad that they didn't put him
in front of what could he have said? Barry that
Barry Church would have been like, you know what, I
could see that man, that's one of the thought process,
like saw the ball towards me, you know, and activating
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there talking about he said his back was thirty you
know he saw the ball, Why.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Why go attack the ball? This matrix? So what happened?
Does anybody get out of fire?
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That he went at the ball though. This is how man,
this is how this is how bad.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It ain't like it bounced at him, like he just
couldn't get out the way he went at the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Man, his opportunity this I got this, we got like
like fat Joe got that.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Y'all got that job because like I even if it
didn't get blocked and the punter shanked it.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You still not get away from it. Get away from it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I got this you know by the way they're showing
the replay right now right here in the studio or
rat the Cooper Rush interception with CD lamb and clearly
he thought CD was doing something else because there was
a miscommunicator.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
He got bumped right here if you.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
See a twenty seven bumpy mob and then he threw it,
so he thought, I mean he threw it before.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, it was it and he threw it back after
the back city is hurt.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
That should ain't that should ain't right. He's soldiering right now.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Then if you saw him on that jet sweep when
that one was like when he got down, he's trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
He didn't want no smoke.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
He was not gonna try and muscle another yard because
of that shoulder. That is I don't know, man, Hey
the eye in the sky donline. So I know they
said they sit down today or they're off to day.
Whenever they sat down and gonna watch this film. There's
gonna be causes in effect for that one. And maybe
it was because CD didn't try and run. They're gonna
be circling.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, this, this is not what we want, right, It's
not what we want. That ball into three Bengals, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Jerry Jones did his Tuesday hit on one O five three,
the fan of flagship station for the Dallas Cowboys, and
he came out and he said, Domoro Overshowon is going
to have surgery.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He's going to miss the rest of this season. And
basically Jerry Sam may not see him until twenty twenty six.
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So with the he's the other knee, not the need
that he lost his rookie or on, but another knee
in just different places.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And just, man, this is bad.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
And I think I can speak for all three of us,
and I think I could speak for Cowboy nation. This
is a young man who you really had high hopes
for that you thought was going to be another piece
to go along with the Michael Parsons and this was
going to be the future of the team. And this
you hate it for the young man who's a positive
young man. You hated, You just hated for the process
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of what you're building for and thinking in twenty twenty five. Hey,
Marian Overshown is going to be more experienced because this
is really his first year playing. This guy was playing well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
This hurts.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It hurts big time because you could just see the
juice he was bringing on the football field, like I mean,
just any type.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Of play, tackle, big play.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
He's getting people amped up with it as just how
he is on the football field, and you need that
type of player with you on the team, somebody that hey,
when we're starting to slow, let me go ahead, jump
start this.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And that's exactly what he was bringing to the table.
And it sucks because each.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Week he was just getting better and better and more confident,
making plays left and right and really becoming a leader
on that defense. And then you just hate to see
this type of thing happen to a young man out there,
already lost his rookie season toil. I believe the left
a CL or the right and now the other need
you know, the reports are saying he tore all three
MCL pc L A c L And it's just like, man,
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that rehab is going to be tough, man, especially knowing
that you you know, more than likely won't be ready
for that next season. It's just like, man, it's a
long road, man, and the light at the end of
the tunnel is a long way away, man, So you know,
god speed to him, you know, you know, hope his
mentals is all right and he's able to soldier through
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this and maybe have a great bounce back.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But man, this is where you need your teammates. This
is where you need guys to you know, check up
in on you.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Because when you I've been there, I've been you know,
Achilles shoulder, where I'm out for the whole season, it
becomes dark, man, it becomes real dark. But you gotta
have those guys that come in and check up on
you and make you still feel like you're a part
of the team. And you know, hopefully those with the
guys in the locker room will be able to do
that for him. But you know, god speed and hopefully
he's able to recover from this brutal injury.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Be I take from what you just said really one word,
and that's the leader, a young man that came in
really trying to find his place on this defense, with
a defense that already had bona fide leaders on it.
And sometimes it's just the opportunity to lead and when
you get it, if you take advantage of it, then
you don't have to do it by talking. It could
be from your actions and everything he did. It didn't
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have anything to do with nothing he said out of
his mouth. It was the way that he was playing
on the field and he was putting the work in.
And that's what I think I respect more than anything
about the Marvin Overshonn is that he didn't try and
make it about him last season, an injury, none of that.
He came in here, he just did the work and
just wanted to be a part of the team, the routine,
and everybody around here started saying, damn, who.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Do you see number thirteen?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Who is number thirteen?
Speaker 5 (41:46):
The Marvin overshan did that all by himself. And then
you started to hear when Michael went down after week
four with it with the injury. God's like number thirteen
being people saying, Nah, the Marvin Overshaan's carrying things. He's
the one that's stepping up. He's the one that's in
the team meetings. And to me, like I look to
where you got to and you understand what it means
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to have to miss that time and be a part
of this. People that are away from football that paid
any football the one thing they always say, what do
you miss the most? The locker room, the camaraderie, what
you get from having that fellowship amongst you know, football players.
And that's why when things come out of the locker
room like you're saying in Philadelphia, you know, you say
to yourself, like, damn, you know, that's not normal because
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usually the locker room is sacred. You know, we don't
let things come out of that. But when you get
a young man that earns the respect of the entire
locker room and veteran leadership that talks, that speaks to him.
And my thing is, look, the injury is catastrophic.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I was there. I saw it.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
It looked bad, right you saw that the Willison. I
don't know if you ever saw the Willis McGahee injury
in the Ohio State. That was one of those injuries
that when you saw it in real time, you said
to yourself, I don't know if this young man will
ever play football player again again because of the way,
because of the way happen. Then next thing, you know,
Willis mcgahey is in the league. He's having production as
a running back. And you know, but right now it
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may seem grim, and then it may not be a situation.
And look, man, you know they say God don't make mistakes,
not to get religious on y'all, but I still believe
in that. And I believe that a young man of
his caliber, of his background, and his family and everybody
that's got him and everybody around here is going to,
you know, form themselves around him and be a support
system for him because he is a quality young man.
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And if he can make it back from this, because
I don't know if he can make it back from this,
I think this will be a testimony of like none
anybody's ever seen. Because he is a fine young man.
He's a fine young man. And I was gutted for
him last night. And when they especially when they start
talking about the severity of the injury, right kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Guy, So Church, And what's the process like when you
go through another indict It's one thing to get hurt
for the first time, but you've done it again. So
what's the mentality for him and how does he keep
how does he win the mental game?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Well, I'm telling you now, his mentality when he was
on the field was probably like man, not again, not
like this, because that's exactly what I was thinking when
I did my achilles.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I just looked down, just like man, not like this.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
It can't go out like this. So at first you're
in kind of self denial, self doubt, just like, man,
what did I do? I Why do I deserve this?
Speaker 5 (44:22):
But and looking at a tweet he had, you know
right after the game, you know, I'm one of God's
strongest soldiers.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And you know I got I have a bounce back.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
So he already has that right mentality in him and
the hard worker I've already seen on the football field,
the way he was able to bounce back from his
first ACL injury. I know he's going to put the
work in. He's going to attack this rehab. It's not
going to be like, oh man, I got to go
through this again. He's going to attack it. And those
guys over in the training room, Britt Brown and those
guys are some of the best international football leagues, so
they'll be able to get him back to the strongest
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he's possibly ever been. But he has to have that
right mentality of I'm going to attack this. I'm not
going to let this defeat me, and you haven't the
last of overshown. I believe that's the type of young
man he is.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So good luck to him. Personnel department has dealt a
blow because you thought, you, hey, you've got two good
linebackers here in terms of a Parsons and an overshown.
And I was even wondering if they decide to switch
defenses next year, you know, do you start to look
at the three four because you had two good guys
there to pressure players. And so this is a setback.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
So they're going to have to go out and now
address this position because it would be irresponsible to just
think about him being on your team in twenty five.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
This is tough.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
So you got to hope the young man get ready
for twenty six and he can be better, but you've
got to go ahead and fill this need here. So
it's another blow for this personnel department here is they're
going to have to go ahead and try and figure
out how how do you make this football team work
at that position?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
All right? Out of time?
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Heck Ma Harrison, sir, appreciate you, Barry Church appreciating that. Yeah,
genty yeah, that's right, genty genty.
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Wait, so let's just hit it right there. Okay, the
game twenty block the punt.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And when you say Peter, because you play college football
at the highest level, so explain it. Because it is
in college football, it is in professional football.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What Peter means.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
It means get the hell away. That's what it means.
When you hear Peter. It means, no matter what you do,
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
Get away. Peter.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That is as universal a word as you could ever
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level you hear it. Peter get Away. And that was
the heartbreak though. The heartbreak of that game was you
missed every opportunity to possibly win it outright. Initially offensively,
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you struggle, but it came down to a special teams play.
Now we know today that there was no such block.
It wasn't a block called missed assignment. You come through
Scott Free, you make a block, you do, you make
a play.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's just what you're doing. There's no thinking about that,
all right.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
But the rules state tip ball goes past line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
It is what lie.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Is it live?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It's five.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And the thing is like, to me, I don't insult
nobody's intelligence that plays in the National Football League. I
won't because I believe you know, the rule ain't no
what it is, no way, there's no way you go
out there and you play. And in that situation that
you did not have situational awareness to know that if
you touch this ball, what was going to ensue from
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that moment for somebody made a bone headed play. Barry Church, Yeah, man,
it was it was bone headed, and I refuse to
believe that bone's fossil didn't go through this in camp
ot as practices where even if you get a block,
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tip tip the ball block and it goes past the
line of scrimmage. That's, like you said, that's on all levels,
high school, college pros. Literally you saying, Peter, don't touch
the football because there's nothing that good can come out
of that. Nothing good can come out of you touching
the football once it's blocked and it goes past the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
All the punt team can do is down it the glory.
That's all they can do is down the ball. There's
no reason for you to touch.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
That glory and that unless unless there's no one near you,
you're twenty yards away from everybody, and your name is
come oft the turpid, then you can touch the football
and pick it up.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Other than that, let that thing go. But we've seen it.
This ain't the first time. No, it's not with the
Dallas Cowboys that we've seen special teams say you know what,
I'm gonna put this on my shoulders. This is my opportunity, right,
I could do I could do it. I believe believe
in me. I know we got an offense. I know
(04:02):
we got a defense, but you know what special teams.
We're gonna hold it down right here? Ye ain't Thomas?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I believe I.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Saw a look, got the look, got the look. I'm
gonna go ahead call this. We're gonna do a pass
on the word was activated? Activate, got activate look activated?
He saw the look? So is he activated? Another opportunity? Washington.
A couple of weeks ago, all you had to catch
security on side, can get down, game over?
Speaker 2 (04:30):
You know what? This is my turn. I got the
ball tucked high and tight. I'm out of here. I'm
going for a touchdown. That's another number, and then and
then this time, and I feel.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So bad for my guy. I don't want to butcher
his name all over. Ala Wari, Halla Wari. I don't
want to Ali Wari. Come on, man, what did you
think was gonna happen? You gonna you gonna Scooper score?
Make a couple of guys miss high step into the
end zone.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Because this is an issue.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And they said it good on the Dallas Cowboys broadcast
and they were talking about something else, but Babe Loockpers said,
problems you can fix issues are not fixable.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We have special teams issues. As you look at this
whole season.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And when I saw the play, I posted on social media.
This is how bad teams get beat. What have we
seen about the Kansas City Chiefs the last month?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
They keep fighting.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
That's what good teams. They don't beat themselves.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
That's what a super Bowl team is. We're gonna figure
it out. You know, it ain't looking good, but we're
gonna sneak out of the bear trap. You too young
to remember this, but back in the day, remember the
Boston Celtic's always found some kind of way to win
a game. Larry Birds and DJ just right here, like
god it again, don't come on it. That's what they do.
Just hate Duke basketball still do by the way and win.
(05:43):
That's what they do. That's what the good teams do.
I'm doug on it. Pittsburgh Steelers, Patriots Super fourteen, like
they going down. They're going down to the rams and
you know what, boom snuck out of it. Next thing
you Star Wars. The good ones do that. The bad
ones do this last night. So that's what happened when
I saw the punt block, and then okay, It's not
(06:05):
just the block the punt and then you touch it
and then they get the ball back.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's the forty touchdown passed.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I was give it. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now I got to
ask this question because I know your man is the
one out in LA, but yesterday you had a front
row seat to actually see Joe Burrow. We've had this
Joe Burrow discussion on this show several times. Barry Church
after actually seeing the surgery with no anesthesia that was
(06:34):
performed yesterday.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But Joe Burrow, what say you? What say you up about?
Cool Joe? Not Joe cool cool Joe.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
He's unreal. Yeah, he's the way he was. Michael Parsons
and them dudes was breathing down.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
His back the entire game.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
This man had As soon as he snapped the ball,
I gotta make something move And it wasn't like he
was scrambling the way he manipulated.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
The pocket and was able to step up.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And I know number ones down there somewhere, and the
how many comebacks can you get beat?
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Then?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Come on, man, look at the time you look, but
I need you to go further. It's not just that Okay,
it's not just the comebacks. Man, you have been here.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
We've been preaching Borough for years. Okay, But what I
want to hear you say is after you saw it live. Yeah, yeah,
for sure and in person. Yeah, that Joe Burrow is
better than Justin Herbert. That's what I need you to see.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I say that, but I mean he's unreal. Come on
in a man's five and eight, man, come on that. Okay,
best receiver with that offensive line with no coaching. We
seen them do it before.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Man took them to a Super Bowl three years and
had the ball.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
In his hands going down the field until the old
line got exposed and somebody they decided that Aaron Donald
wasn't worth double team.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't know who did that. Joe Burrow is elite.
Justin Herbert is good. Joe Burrow is Burrow is elite.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Let me just say, let me let me say that
I leave because I'm not gonna open that. I'm not
gonna argue with you because I know how you, I
know how your loyalty flows, so I'm not gonna do
that to the show.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I'm just gonna say this.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
You can't no, no, no, no, if the if the
Bengals defense was twenty percent better. The Bengals would be
a problem today in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
All right, they'd be back in the super Bowl again.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
I'm just saying, based off, based off of what I
see with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati. There there are two
great quarterbacks in the NFL. Joe Burrow is one of them,
and the other guy you can't even argue with. Just
I'm sitting out there watching, I'm telling my son. With
me and my son, we're at the game, and I
took his phone, give me your phone, but I put
(08:54):
this one.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You need to see this right, This is surgery.
Speaker 8 (08:58):
Son.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Do you see this? He throwing the ball. He's throwing
the ball.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Before the receiver even comes out of his break and
make you ask yourself, what the hell who are he
throwing to? And in this industry we try and put
cumps together all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Who is the COUMP for this guy?
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
This guy isn't?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
There is no there's no one to compare. And you
be doing yourself disservice to all those greats as well,
because this young man is absolutely off the charts when
it comes down to arm strength, his ability to maneuver
the pocket, uh, throwing on the run, throwing state, I
mean stationary, all of that his receivers.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If I'm a receiver in the national.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
In college, I pray to God that you come to
the to the podium and tell me to go to Cincinnati,
then I'm going because of the way, I mean Yoshi
or whoever the Yoshi vash see, Higgins.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Left a lot of food on his plate. Did he
even get a catch? He did? But how many did
he drop?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
This is what I've always found interesting about Joe Burrow.
How good were those practices that Dwayne Haskins beat him
out at Ohio?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh my god? How what was that like?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Is they were going in practice and just like yeah, bruh,
you're good. But but we going with him? And you know,
Haskins was at Ohio's date. I forget what prose Ohio
State was putting it on. So nobody was like, hey man,
you know Joe Burrow left. Nobody cried he have a
right up on it. It was just it was just
(10:28):
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
L s U.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now, so did they bring up this? Uh? My buddy
was coaching in Texas.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He was dB coach in Texas when LSU went down
there at Austin. They played a great game, okay, bothing
back and forth, and so Pace tells me the next day,
like in the film session charm Hermit just killing them all, gosh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Ain't no good, no coaching, just wanting to bench fla me.
He just all of it. And my boy did he
because hey, man, they're good. This dude is I mean, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Just addressing him, going crazy, and he's like, those are
NFL guys, and lo and behold the end of the
year average fifty, you know, arguably the greatest offensive football
team of all time.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Burrow wins the Heisman, you know, chases chases.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
The first Jeffers so fair think about running back is
the first round and Dom Herman went out there and
just killed my boy to dB coach mad as hell
at him and he's and he's.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Literally, they're good, man, This was a really good team.
Like they're going to do this all year long. And
then come to find out, ya, Herman got.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
They did to all pro corners yesterday, all Pro Pro
Bowl good players. These are all.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Pro And you, as a former defensive back, you look
at the job that Digs and Bland and Lewis did.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
They was fighting to the right.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
There the ball place, the wide receiver pack tipped to
the defense man was there, and they could have got
to fifty every time.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
Hold it out there you see arms rubbing over it,
just holding out step out of bounds.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
The first you tell me when you saw the first touchdown,
I said to myself, he's just good. The Chase is
just good. It's and obviously you know because you were
an NFL dB. Hey man, sometimes it's just man that
he's just good. It's kind of like, you know, hey,
you put all this defense on Jordan, Oh, Michael, okay, whatever,
(12:33):
Nothing I could do.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
He just good. Ball placement is there. It's accurate, like
a Treitman football. It is accurate. He's Jamar Chase.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
He just there's nothing digs like I'm not looking at
these like, oh man, you stink no, no, that that's
this is what great And we don't see we actually
maybe the worst elite because this is like you you know,
you top three, like you chas is it there? You
can't he there cowboys at all. They could do Mike
(13:00):
Zimmers even they did their job, But at.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
What point are you gonna double the man? Like that's
what we say. We did all he could do. Man,
you it was blind.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
I understand they're all pros and they got to suit
up to the challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I get it, But.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
At what point are you like, man, look one underneath
one over top. We're playing nine on the level because
nobody else was doing anything. Yoshi put a couple of
catches here and there. See Higgins ain't had nothing. Like,
At what point.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Are you saying, you know what, this dude is unstoppable.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
We're gonna put a corner right underneath them at a
safety on top because I'm looking, at what point? At
one point you gotta treat this man like this dude
is like mass out here right now to us, Like,
y'all see that y'all was there?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, crazy in Texas.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Second, at what point are you like cause the game
win the forty yarders?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It was blad in Chase, but because when he missed
that tackle, there was nobody else over there. You at
what point are you like? You know prior to side boy,
you get double team.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I don't care if the corners are they're saying, I
want this, I want going to You don't want this challenge,
you don't want to come on over. I'd have been like,
I'm on top, bro, yeah out here what you say?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I still think that defense like that was enough. They
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the play calling, that's your issue there. Let's get a
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Speaker 4 (17:45):
Cincinnati went to twenty seven twenty when we did the pics,
I had Cincinnati thirty one twenty seven. Church, you had
Cincinnati thirty five twenty one. Heck, you had Dallas twenty
four to seventeen.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Sh I was right there, right right there, waiting. I
had ready ann to put out. He was like he
turn on the store about here.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He was getting Walter White out there. Boy, y'all was nervous.
Y'all was nervous. Was nervous, double thud like. I was like, Oh,
they're really about to.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Chase going in there? God him, so.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Come back over. I was with Michael second, let get
out of here. He was from out of here.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Friday year, Yes, Friday, put Michael from out of here.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Man came, I've done that in the park a couple
of times. Take my body, Goren. I don't know how
you're gonna play, but I'm gone, I'll go to leave it.
We did our NFA picks. I missed two games last week.
Wrong on Arizona Seattle because I took Arizona and I
took took Josh Allen and lost in that RAM game.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think I tooked und Church.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
You took the Rams, but you were wrong because you
took the charges over Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And you took call of duty and you lost the game.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Heck, but you were rolling, but then you picked Buffalo
as well, and then you picked the Cowboys, so we
both lost two games.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I was rolling, well, I went with my hearts. I
ain't doing They didn't put me all the way to
the edge. The Bengals are who we thought they were.
Let them out the hook.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
One play away, one play away had it one. After
all of that, after all of that, after all of that,
Joe bro were talking about Jamar Chase, after all of
that surgery, after all of that, after my man, Cooper
Rush is disappearing.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
He was off fault. He was bad. He was bad.
The first drive.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I was like, you know what, he make it look
a little easy. Look he was missing wide open. You
were there, you didn't get the TV copy. You was
watching it, like, yo, he's missing. He's comming. I mean
strength man, like you saw his balls just kind of fluttering.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
There's no like zip, y'all see it, there's no zip
to it. Off.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
He could have had about three picks, yes, yes, that
and the one in the on the gold in the
red zone. I mean four bangles over there. I had
a chance at it.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Let's have let's have a quick conversation about let's do it.
He's a free agent.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
After I said, man, he's a solid back, like he's
one of he gotta be one of the top backups
international Football League.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
If you if he's not.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
A guy that's gonna come in and save your season
like we saw obviously this year, but spot duty, he
can come and get you a victory or two or three.
So I think he's a decent backup. You know, he's
just not a guy that can be the franchise.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Last night, he needed him to be better and he wasn't.
He needed you needed this and this was this was
a bad defense.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Now, thank you.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's the point. Okay, that's the point. It's not we
don't ask you to do this versus Baltimore. We're not
asking you to I mean, this is a they were gettable.
They were gettable and and oh my God, you running.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Rico Dattle was going crazy? What eighteen one thirty one
for Rico? Are you kidding?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
We were talking about balance, We were talking about balance
all last week. How this could you couldn't get into
a shootout. You maintained according to script, you did everything
that you needed to do. What happens too late in
the game where you come out and you blunder those possessions.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Cooper was all you was offul Man. He couldn't hit,
he couldn't hit nothing. He was awful.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
I'll get he was awful, you know, and in a
backup situation, but he's a backup quarterback. And at the
end of the day, it was a blunder on specialty.
You know, if Ala wal don't go in there and
try to be Superman.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But you're both correct.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Okay, you're correct about the punt and heck's correct about
you was awful, Coop us. This is a bad defense
and so this is this is where you're supposed to
get this done against a bad defense.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And if you can't do it here, are you going
to keep investing in this or do you.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Decide to go look at what else where else can
we go and try to improve on this.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Now, I'm with you. I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
I'm not saying Trey Lance is the answer. But at
some point in time, now this thing is done. You're
five and eight.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Thus wrap.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So so as you start to look at twenty five,
how are you going to Jerry talked about when he's
still trying to stick a rush?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
But for what? Right for who? For what? For who?
For what?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
I mean, figure out what what do you have so
you can do something with this position. But you just
did not see enough. This is a bad football team defensively,
the Bengals were bad defense.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
Yeah, you gotta be able, like you said, you gotta
be able to take advantage.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
And I feel like man.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Because McCarthy, I feel like he was pushing or dialing
the right buttons out there. I mean, play call was shaky.
But the run game, they had a balance attack. You
Rico got his fill out there. I think he had
like a buck thirty something on the ground or it
was a balanced attack. Cooper, he just he didn't have
his best game. He did not have his best game
by far. But I feel like they did enough offensively
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and defensively against a team like the Bengals.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's averaging thirty some points a game.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
You hold them until that last chase, you hold them
to twenty points.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
You go in there and get the block specialty. But
go back to what Happen has been saying throughout the game.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
If Cooper Rush is able to take some advantage of
some of these opportunities.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
You're not even in this game. You're not even.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
It's not as close as it is because you're driving
on this defense, You're you're moving up and down the field.
You're just not able in points out the ball. Yeah,
stab yourself, you know, because you you put yourself in
a position where you cost him. And I think any
quarterback where this salt understands ball security when you get
down to the red zone is foremost not that it
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isn't the whole game, but especially in those situations but
late in the game. And that's why, like for Mike McCarthy,
I'm just like, you can't separate him from the office
because he's the play caller.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
He's the play caller. So when you're the play call.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
In that situation, and we had to go back to
these decisions where your office is struggling, but you're still
throwing the ball, Like come on, Mike, I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I'm with you. I could feel that the add of pressure.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Even when the roof was open, I could still feel
the pressure that you was under. But come on, now,
turn and hand that ball to Rico Dalo because he's
rewarding you. Our offensive line is a makeshift offensive line.
Cooper BB goes out with the concussion in the first half,
and he was having a hell of a game. Brock Hoffman,
for all the titles and everything that they put on
him trying to build him up, dude, dude comes in
(25:13):
and plays center and does it. Still does a damn
good job and playing the center position, and still your
offense is rolling. But in those moments right there, we
asked the best of the best. I asked you, I said, man,
what is it why you can't why you can't hook
your kaboos to this coaching staff. He was like, in
those moments, it's the moments that you're looking for, and
it's that moment, that very slim moment right there where
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you had a chance to make a difference in this game,
in the play call and probably cost you down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
And that's when you get back to the conversation about
a Cooper Rush, you want to sign up for another
year of this? And you look at Mike McCarthy, do
you want to sign up for more of this? These
are the questions that you have to ask. This was
a gettable game against an elite quarterback. I just and
you couldn't get it cut. But this is what bad
teams do.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Canshoo this question though.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
You know, we look at talent, and we look at
Cincinnati what they have on offense and their receiving corps,
guys like T Higgins, Joe Shi Vash and in their
tight end man, we don't aside from CD Lamb, who
else is it? Who else is there that you could
say can take some of the pressure off of coverage
for a guy like CD. Even if what you're talking about,
(26:24):
what you're saying with Jamar Chase, why didn't they double
Jamar Chase? Well, you don't double Jamart because you know
T Higgas gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
So yeah, but I'm just hell, but.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's gonna happen. Somebody gonna get this. You know, you
have a quarterback that's willing to do it. But when
you have a quarterback that's struggling and he's trying to
find guys, and he's definitely trying to find the main target,
which is Cede Lamb.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Who else is there?
Speaker 5 (26:47):
I mean, you're just not getting any production from anybody else,
not numbered eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
This is true.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I thought I thought Brad Sham did a real nice job.
But telling the truth about Jay October, he's like, hey man,
that's been disappointing. Yeah, he said after the camp he
expected him to do more. He thought he could be
a number two. It's like he's not number three, number two,
and he hasn't been that guy. But I go back
to what many of those who had been out at
(27:16):
camp had been saying, it's CD and the Maybies, it's not.
This is not it and you know one of those
great Stephen Jones on it. We like our guys, Brandon
Cooks is he was injured and let's just be honest.
That's been a nine million dollar bad that's been bad
(27:36):
money right there. Cooks has not been the player you
thought he was going to be. Tolbert not the players
you thought he was gonna be. So you're two and
three have failed you. And then everything else they were
trying to put behind that has not worked out either.
That's that is so so for the the amount of
criticism Dak Prescott got he's not this, He's not that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It's been CD and the Maybies and the media has
said it. The media who who? Who questioned? What are
you doing? The running back spot?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Why did it take so long for you to say, Hey,
Rico Daddell, here's some more care. Why did it take
so long to say, hey, let's get Turpin involved offensive?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
As much as I stood on the table for Mike
last year and the job he did, I have to
be fair in my assessment and say, you know what
this this this year has been a regression. You can
try and argue about what the carpenter's tools are, but
at some point in time you got to use the tools,
and you're finding out way too late some of the
tools that you need.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
We go down on one thirty one last night.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I know the Bengals defense isn't good, but where could
you have been if you had been trying to give
this young man more opportunities?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Where were you?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Where were you at and not realizing that what Comante
Turpin is doing now these opportunities, this is what he
been doing to TCU. They've been giving the guy the
football in space and letting him just be a mismatch nightmare.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's what they gotta get.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Get back to screens, slants, the little buff the sweeps
with some don't give this man a lie down down
the field.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
How many times have we.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
Seen one on one they're gonna throw it up the
turbine like he's six ' five, which he was.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
They did it again last week, and I'm I'm just saying,
and I don't Mike knows the personnel. I know he
knows this, but who's drawing that up four or five
eight receiver?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
This is this is what this is. This is what
gets you. This is what this is how you say
goodbye bye. You're helping yourself.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Cannot understanding. Look, it's taking ric o'doddo regardless how you found.
I'm not trying to down anybody. I'm just saying thirteen.
It's taking him thirteen games. He has been the source
of a lot of frustration of just not being able
to see and identify the whole and get through it.
His running style was not made for this offensive line
he's had because the blocking hadn't got better. You had
you didn't have a better offensive line. Out there yesterday, right,
(29:48):
So I mean, what what changed about ric o'dado in
this game that you didn't see in the Detroit game?
That you didn't see it? So that's all I'm saying. Look,
I think he's doing he's running better. Matter of fact,
his running style I think fits perfectly to the offensive
line that he has. But man, come on, now, let's
just let's not act like rick o'daldo started the season
(30:11):
off hot like this, carrying the ball like what I'm
seeing right now I wish I saw at the beginning
of the season. Is all I'm saying. The rhythm that
he's getting into now he looks like a damn better
running back now.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
So I come back to this, It's about opportunities Church,
you played this game. It's about being able to play,
get opportunities and get a rhythm as a running back
goes none of what they did this year at the
running back position from the start.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Can't argue with that. I can't argue what's the plan, strategy?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
You come the strategy, you get the strategy, and it's
just like m and so by the time you figured out.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
What it is you want to do, you're late in
the game and you're just.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Like or Or you figure out that Brandon Cooks is
a step slower he's supposed to be to take the
top off threat.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Now he hurt you know, he hurt me, hurt so
and and Tolbert. You know, look, man, you got your.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Opportunities, the opportunity you didn't do anything with it. So yeah,
it's it's it's.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
This is the kind of stuff that Jerry has to
look at the end of the year and make a
decision on do I want more years of this? And
if I do, how do I change it? How do
I improve the roster so he's better? Yeah, they're guys.
I mean right now, you can't bring back Randon Cooks.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
No, you can't bring him back.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
If Jalen Tolbert comes back, he needs to be looked
at as a number three, not not as a the
dude on the other side of cdee lamb.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
So you have you you need a number two wide receiver.
You're running back room.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You can bring Rico Daddle back, but you can't bring
back EZEKIELI.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
It no, No, I mean it's you need you need
more help in that room.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Yeah, no, you do. Can we say something about over
shown let's let's hit a y, hit the breaking. Come
back this, let's hit the breaking and dive in, dive
into what.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Happened to that forefront receiver?
Speaker 7 (32:18):
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Speaker 2 (32:26):
Man?
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Man?
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
Jerry World scraped. I was bringing that back. I see Barry.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Churchway safeties here as Church tried to Warren Heckman, don't
do it, get on it, stay away one play away,
one play away.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Thank you, Olive, my man. That's why you get off
that narcotic sir. I tried, I tried. You knew they
were going to I was I was good for a
long time. Then in two wins, like did anybody interview
my mask? Alli like and just asking like.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Man, what No, they escorted him out. I think they
got you know, they got him away from the media.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
What would you like, come on?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Would there would have been There was nothing that he
could have said after of that game that would have
satisfied you. And I'm glad that they didn't put him
in front of what could he have said? Barry that
Barry Church would have been like, you know what, I
could see that man, that's one of the thought process,
like saw the ball towards me, you know, and activating
(36:18):
there talking about he said his back was thirty you
know he saw the ball, Why.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Why go attack the ball? This matrix? So what happened?
Does anybody get out of fire?
Speaker 7 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:37):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That he went at the ball though. This is how man,
this is how this is how bad.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
It ain't like it bounced at him, like he just
couldn't get out the way he went at the ball.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Man, his opportunity this I got this, we got like
like fat Joe got that.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Y'all got that job because like I even if it
didn't get blocked and the punter shanked it.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You still not get away from it. Get away from it.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I got this you know by the way they're showing
the replay right now right here in the studio or
rat the Cooper Rush interception with CD lamb and clearly
he thought CD was doing something else because there was
a miscommunicator.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
He got bumped right here if you.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
See a twenty seven bumpy mob and then he threw it,
so he thought, I mean he threw it before.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, it was it and he threw it back after
the back city is hurt.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Man.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
That should ain't that should ain't right. He's soldiering right now.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Then if you saw him on that jet sweep when
that one was like when he got down, he's trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
He didn't want no smoke.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
He was not gonna try and muscle another yard because
of that shoulder. That is I don't know, man, Hey
the eye in the sky donline. So I know they
said they sit down today or they're off to day.
Whenever they sat down and gonna watch this film. There's
gonna be causes in effect for that one. And maybe
it was because CD didn't try and run. They're gonna
be circling.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, this, this is not what we want, right, It's
not what we want. That ball into three Bengals, Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Jerry Jones did his Tuesday hit on one O five three,
the fan of flagship station for the Dallas Cowboys, and
he came out and he said, Domoro Overshowon is going
to have surgery.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He's going to miss the rest of this season. And
basically Jerry Sam may not see him until twenty twenty six.
I could see that.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
So with the he's the other knee, not the need
that he lost his rookie or on, but another knee
in just different places.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And just, man, this is bad.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
And I think I can speak for all three of us,
and I think I could speak for Cowboy nation. This
is a young man who you really had high hopes
for that you thought was going to be another piece
to go along with the Michael Parsons and this was
going to be the future of the team. And this
you hate it for the young man who's a positive
young man. You hated, You just hated for the process
(39:14):
of what you're building for and thinking in twenty twenty five. Hey,
Marian Overshown is going to be more experienced because this
is really his first year playing. This guy was playing well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
This hurts.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It hurts big time because you could just see the
juice he was bringing on the football field, like I mean,
just any type.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Of play, tackle, big play.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
He's getting people amped up with it as just how
he is on the football field, and you need that
type of player with you on the team, somebody that hey,
when we're starting to slow, let me go ahead, jump
start this.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And that's exactly what he was bringing to the table.
And it sucks because each.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Week he was just getting better and better and more confident,
making plays left and right and really becoming a leader
on that defense. And then you just hate to see
this type of thing happen to a young man out there,
already lost his rookie season toil. I believe the left
a CL or the right and now the other need
you know, the reports are saying he tore all three
MCL pc L A c L And it's just like, man,
(40:09):
that rehab is going to be tough, man, especially knowing
that you you know, more than likely won't be ready
for that next season. It's just like, man, it's a
long road, man, and the light at the end of
the tunnel is a long way away, man, So you know,
god speed to him, you know, you know, hope his
mentals is all right and he's able to soldier through
(40:30):
this and maybe have a great bounce back.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But man, this is where you need your teammates. This
is where you need guys to you know, check up
in on you.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Because when you I've been there, I've been you know,
Achilles shoulder, where I'm out for the whole season, it
becomes dark, man, it becomes real dark. But you gotta
have those guys that come in and check up on
you and make you still feel like you're a part
of the team. And you know, hopefully those with the
guys in the locker room will be able to do
that for him. But you know, god speed and hopefully
he's able to recover from this brutal injury.
Speaker 7 (40:57):
Man.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Be I take from what you just said really one word,
and that's the leader, a young man that came in
really trying to find his place on this defense, with
a defense that already had bona fide leaders on it.
And sometimes it's just the opportunity to lead and when
you get it, if you take advantage of it, then
you don't have to do it by talking. It could
be from your actions and everything he did. It didn't
(41:20):
have anything to do with nothing he said out of
his mouth. It was the way that he was playing
on the field and he was putting the work in.
And that's what I think I respect more than anything
about the Marvin Overshonn is that he didn't try and
make it about him last season, an injury, none of that.
He came in here, he just did the work and
just wanted to be a part of the team, the routine,
and everybody around here started saying, damn, who.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Do you see number thirteen?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Man?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Who is number thirteen?
Speaker 5 (41:46):
The Marvin overshan did that all by himself. And then
you started to hear when Michael went down after week
four with it with the injury. God's like number thirteen
being people saying, Nah, the Marvin Overshaan's carrying things. He's
the one that's stepping up. He's the one that's in
the team meetings. And to me, like I look to
where you got to and you understand what it means
(42:08):
to have to miss that time and be a part
of this. People that are away from football that paid
any football the one thing they always say, what do
you miss the most? The locker room, the camaraderie, what
you get from having that fellowship amongst you know, football players.
And that's why when things come out of the locker
room like you're saying in Philadelphia, you know, you say
to yourself, like, damn, you know, that's not normal because
(42:28):
usually the locker room is sacred. You know, we don't
let things come out of that. But when you get
a young man that earns the respect of the entire
locker room and veteran leadership that talks, that speaks to him.
And my thing is, look, the injury is catastrophic.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I was there. I saw it.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
It looked bad, right you saw that the Willison. I
don't know if you ever saw the Willis McGahee injury
in the Ohio State. That was one of those injuries
that when you saw it in real time, you said
to yourself, I don't know if this young man will
ever play football player again again because of the way,
because of the way happen. Then next thing, you know,
Willis mcgahey is in the league. He's having production as
a running back. And you know, but right now it
(43:06):
may seem grim, and then it may not be a situation.
And look, man, you know they say God don't make mistakes,
not to get religious on y'all, but I still believe
in that. And I believe that a young man of
his caliber, of his background, and his family and everybody
that's got him and everybody around here is going to,
you know, form themselves around him and be a support
system for him because he is a quality young man.
(43:29):
And if he can make it back from this, because
I don't know if he can make it back from this,
I think this will be a testimony of like none
anybody's ever seen. Because he is a fine young man.
He's a fine young man. And I was gutted for
him last night. And when they especially when they start
talking about the severity of the injury, right kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Guy, So Church, And what's the process like when you
go through another indict It's one thing to get hurt
for the first time, but you've done it again. So
what's the mentality for him and how does he keep
how does he win the mental game?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Well, I'm telling you now, his mentality when he was
on the field was probably like man, not again, not
like this, because that's exactly what I was thinking when
I did my achilles.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
I just looked down, just like man, not like this.
Speaker 7 (44:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
It can't go out like this. So at first you're
in kind of self denial, self doubt, just like, man,
what did I do? I Why do I deserve this?
Speaker 5 (44:22):
But and looking at a tweet he had, you know
right after the game, you know, I'm one of God's
strongest soldiers.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
And you know I got I have a bounce back.
Speaker 5 (44:30):
So he already has that right mentality in him and
the hard worker I've already seen on the football field,
the way he was able to bounce back from his
first ACL injury. I know he's going to put the
work in. He's going to attack this rehab. It's not
going to be like, oh man, I got to go
through this again. He's going to attack it. And those
guys over in the training room, Britt Brown and those
guys are some of the best international football leagues, so
they'll be able to get him back to the strongest
(44:52):
he's possibly ever been. But he has to have that
right mentality of I'm going to attack this. I'm not
going to let this defeat me, and you haven't the
last of overshown. I believe that's the type of young
man he is.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So good luck to him. Personnel department has dealt a
blow because you thought, you, hey, you've got two good
linebackers here in terms of a Parsons and an overshown.
And I was even wondering if they decide to switch
defenses next year, you know, do you start to look
at the three four because you had two good guys
there to pressure players. And so this is a setback.
Speaker 4 (45:24):
So they're going to have to go out and now
address this position because it would be irresponsible to just
think about him being on your team in twenty five.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
This is tough.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
So you got to hope the young man get ready
for twenty six and he can be better, but you've
got to go ahead and fill this need here. So
it's another blow for this personnel department here is they're
going to have to go ahead and try and figure
out how how do you make this football team work
at that position?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
All right? Out of time?
Speaker 4 (45:48):
Heck Ma Harrison, sir, appreciate you, Barry Church appreciating that. Yeah,
genty yeah, that's right, genty genty.
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