April 25, 2023 • 42 mins
For our last episode of Season 3, we combed through each episode to pull out our favorite moments. From current and former players, to members of the media and the Celtics front office, enjoy the best clips from View From The Rafters.
00:53 – Luke Kornet Takeover Best Moments
13:33 – Blake Griffin & The Bus 1 Boys
18:05 – Danilo Gallinari Recalls Playing Kevin Garnett
22:16 – Stories of NBA Scout
27:14 – Jayson Tatum’s & ‘The Confetti Game’
32:23 – Rob Williams Balancing Fatherhood
37:20 – Paul Pierce’s Beginning In Boston
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome everyone. This is View from the Rafters Today.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're bringing in a man who hails from basketball country.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Life is funny.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Okay, oh don't go there, not yet.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, we talked about him. The bust one boys is
the crazy story, not actor is a.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Basketball The crazy thing to me is like where you
came from. Yeah, we're all older than we think.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
We are always gold lead gray baby.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It is hard to believe, but season three of You
from the Rafters is coming to a close, and we
thought what better way to close it out than looking
back at the best moments from the first eleven episodes
of the season. And there's no other way to start
that out than by looking back at last week's episode
when Luke Cornett stepped in as guest toast and he
delivered the goods. If you haven't seen it, you need
(00:45):
to go watch it. But in the meantime, if you
want to just see the top clips, here they are,
and trust me, there are a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Oh so obviously you know from your time with Virginia
on you've had the nickname as the President's Dude or
the President do to your striking resemblance to number forty
four present Barack Obama. You know your voice, your luck,
all the stuff. I'm sure you're familiar with this, are you?
Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Yeah? All right.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Well, also, you've been pretty political or politically active, and
I was just wondering if you might have a future
campaign on your own. I actually pulled teammates out to see, like,
what question they'd want me to ask you concerning your
future campaign. And there's really just one thing that came
around resoundingly, like every single person on the team was
(01:31):
primarily concerned with this. So if you could, you know,
answer from your not your delegates, so constituents.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So the one question I got from the team was unanimous,
what would you do to decrease tax rates for high
income earners?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Inflation is a big problem.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
So they're you don't have any plans. I don't have
an answer.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You don't have any plans for that.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I didn't say I was over running. You might want
to prepare thyself. People say I should run. I've never
said that, so.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay, well, you know I'm not obligated to answer that.
So I think you should be a little more glass
half full on that one. I think you can do it.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
There we go, Malcolm Brogden running for president twenty How
do you have to be thirty five? Thirty five? So
you could have done it like forty years ago?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Is that right? There you go.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The joke there is that he's old because he spent
all this time in college. All right, all right, so
now it's time to this is what we all came
here for. And uh, you know, so it's been well
documented for Malcolm throughout this year. He's a top candidate
for a very prescidious NBA Regular Season Award. I mean
it's there's no surpike. People have been talking about it
(02:50):
all year, and I bet you're wondering. I was like,
why we're so adamant about having you on and like
and I didn't really want to do it, but it
was like, no, we need to get him here, We
need to get him here.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
We get here.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, I really can't believe that, like the powers that
be allowed like this to be the time and place
for it, but it's how they decided to go. So
it is without much further ado, that I would like
to award you, Malcolm Brogden with the two, twenty twenty
(03:21):
three Boston Celtics Training Room Trivia third Place Award. So
here's the award, third place Award. We do pregame trivia
every day and on the road games with ninety minutes
on the clock. And Malcolm this year bowed through thick
and thin no matter what happened. I say, he showed
(03:43):
up every single day and he really gave his best.
And yeah, third place is something really to be proud of.
It's signed by the you know, the leader, Paul West
of the of the Trivia Commission, and I just wanted
to award that for you. And it also comes with
a little bag of Monster trail Mix. I made a
stop at Target the other day. Malcolm is a very
(04:06):
disciplined eater, but we've shared a bond about uh secretly
gorging on uh monster trail mix because it feels like
trail mix, which is a good snack, but frankly, it's
it's dessert. So you're your uh.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Your ward. I'm not taking. I'm not taking the award.
You cheated, you cheated, the blood money, you cheated.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
You don't take the award.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
No, listen, you did all year long to get that.
It's not cheating to get the first because you're.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are you first?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
What are you first?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Oh am I I I haven't checked the I just
was here.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
If you present this for you, did you win?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I mean I was winning for most of the year
and so unless something happened in the last came I remember,
I'm not about taking it off.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I'm not taking it. And third place, I'm not taking it.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That's that's not very gracious of you. That's a pillow,
not a gratitude. Well, I guess you Maybe I'll frame
it and then it'll be a little more sure to
do it.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I was.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I didn't cheat, but that's neither in there. I played
by the rules of the game. You guys did not
like it, but the results to be for themselves. So yeah,
that's about it. You know, a lot of fun we
had here, Malcolm Brogden. You know, I gotta say it's
a pleasure having you on. You're the very first guest
(05:27):
a day that will forever go down and in for me. Well,
that's probably not it's trying not I how I want
to land in with that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's not great.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But yeah, thanks for having me on and I'm sorry
that you didn't want to accept your prestigious award, but
lying onto it.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
For you, this was solid until you brought that out.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh what are you talking about? You did really good.
Third is really good and there's like five competitors, so
third of five is like middle of the pack. I
think third of five if you if you had a
full team for five people, I think there'd be two
star arders, So technically you'd be the sixth man of
the trivia. Thanks Malcolm, the pleasure to have you on.
(06:08):
Love you, Sam Hauser. So is your first real, like
full season in the NBA last year spending time in
Maine and stuff, and believe it or not, Samuel Hawser,
Samuel David arts truly right here. He led the NBA
in defensive rating and also at a point near the
very end of the season he was leading the league
and percentage of defensive possessions that he was isolated against,
(06:32):
meaning teams keep trying to get him in the action.
Although you lead the NBA in defensive rating, and so
I'm just wondering, is there any possible reason why you
think teams would continue to do this despite the evidence
that states otherwise. Yeah, you know, I think it might
just be my experience in the league, you know, experiencing
(06:54):
the league that you're kind of younger. Yeah, I think
that might be it. Yeah, that's what you think. It is,
no idea you're talking about there, Yep. So yeah, we
can we can know some. It doesn't really matter. You
can have some if you want.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Feel free to outbreak.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
O love a good schedder. I know it's not like
Wisconsin Wisconsin cheese, but I did my best that I could.
It was after a bad time. That'll make something happen,
all right. Uh So we got a new little segment here.
If there's one thing that people in this team, an
organization knows Samuel for, what is it that they always
say about you, sam They always say this about you.
(07:33):
They say that Samuel Hauser, he it's from Wisconsin. No,
that it's just that. Oh he's that Samuel Hawser. He's
the Frank calli Endo of the NBA because he's got
elite impressions. So so we're gonna We're gonna do a
couple of impressions here.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I'm gonna hand you the line. Okay, first I'm gonna
introduce the character, and then I'm gonna hand him the line.
Please do uh So, this would be uh Ryan Gosling's
dad from the two thousand blockbuster film Remember the Titans
after his son is subbed out. Uh So, once again,
this would be Ryan Gossling's dad from the two thousand
blockbuster Remember the Titans after his son was subbed out? Yep, Okay,
(08:17):
here's the line. Y yep, that's the that's the first
one second one we'll see if you're willing. Uh, it's
it's one of two people. It's either our Australian performance
coaches Jase Slaney or and or physical therapist Steve mat
(08:38):
I've got a line for you if you uh, if
you want to give that one a shot, yes, I
might give it a shot after you as well.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Oi.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I mean thinks you should put some oys on that
you should.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
There you go into it a little bit more usually
when they talk this is how that's fun fact about
Australia is it's basically Cockney English. And I mean, at
least in my mind. I'm just taking this from The Kingsman,
That's where I'm stealing this from. And Peaky Blinders is
apparently show, but I don't really know because I think
(09:12):
it's a little bit more it's a little bit more subtle,
a little more subtle. So I'm like, hm hm, oh,
I mean thinks he's put some ets on that you.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Should it's so aggressive.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
All right, Oh, here we go, last one of the impressions.
I'm getting warm. All right, Sam, you just read the
below sentence. This one was actually at the request of
a certain teammate who will remain nameless. Yeah, not even
a character. We just wanted to read that sentence. All right.
(09:55):
The talent he you for this, Luke, the talented baggage
man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag. Wow.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Can I you want me to do it again?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (10:11):
I talented baggage man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That was pretty good ring out the Midwest.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, the talented baggage man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag.
Something that sounds sounds right. I guess that one wasn't
even impression. I was just asking like, yeah, yeah, I
don't know a lot of he knows, but our Samuel
is actually sounds very condescending to say it that way.
(10:39):
He's recently engaged and he's playing getting married this summer. Congratulations, Sam,
Thank you awesome. Yeah, thanks guys. Yeah, appreciate. Uh. So
I'd like to dedicate this last segment to the absolute
best part of being engaged. And so this segment, I'm
just gonna uh welcome to unsolicited marriage advice with Luke Cornette.
(11:01):
It's all you're gonna get for the next like five months.
Right here we go. So this is the first one.
I want to hear what you think about this. So
there's some good advice for you. Marriage isn't a contest,
So never keep score, said the loser, right, I can
(11:22):
I can take that. I won't. I won't say the score.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I can take that with me.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I won't say the score of my own. But like,
let's just say it looks like me and you are
playing the whole fourth quarter, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, ah,
this is just my turn to say jokes. So I
(11:46):
don't even I'm not even sure while you're here. A
good marriage is one where each partner secretly suspects they
got the better deal. Well, I only had to pay
my father in law two goats for my wife, so
I'd say I got a stick.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You tell that to your father in law.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
No, that's like so used to be a thing of
like Dowries, you know, and uh yeah, hopefully he doesn't
say this.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
To him.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Eli Lilly coaching at Butler Coaching for Boston now President,
Why do you find it so hard to hold on
to a job?
Speaker 11 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's one of the one of the
challenges is is I think people get sick of me
after a certain amount of time. So the clock is
ticking again, and so I'm just always on my toes.
What's the secret to running a successful NBA franchise? The
answer might surprise you. Next on View from.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The Rafters, Can I can I take a guess?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know. I tell you my second year.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
You should ask Zaron my guess that it was have
had Danny Ain's draft franchise altering talent, no question.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So that's how we ended the season with Luke Cornett.
Back in February, we opened the season with a live
recording at Encore Boston Harbor with six time All Star
Blake Griffin, and during that conversation, Blake pretty much broke
the Internet by revealing to everyone that the Bus one
Boys are a group within the Self Excess, the group
that rides the first bus over to games and the
(13:25):
content that came out of that. I mean everyone was
loving it. It carried on the entire season. Here is
Blake breaking the news of the Bus one boys.
Speaker 12 (13:33):
How close have you gotten with that bench crew? I mean,
you guys always walk into the arena together, especial Hoofer
on their phone, Peyton and Luke and Sam Hauser.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, we call her so if you're best friend in
the world. Luke is awesome, man.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But I don't know if everyone hasn't watched like you
guys on the bench next to each other, it might
be the best part of every night.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's he's so funny, man, I playing unbelievably. Well, that's
another guy. The way he's playing now seems like he
could go to a team and start. If not start,
he could play a lot of minutes. Lucas Gray. We
call ourselves the Bus one boys because we always take
the first We always take the first bus. There's three
(14:12):
buses to the arena on a unaway games, we always
take the first bus and the energy is pretty electric.
Back are you on? Are you on the first bus? Well,
you're missing.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Out, not allowed on the first bus.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Probably that can we can we launch another podcast of
you guys going on bus one.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's in a game. Every night, we'll bring a microphone
and just let you guys see.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
What we talk about.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Listen, if I know Luke Cornett and Blake Griffin, that.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Would be yeah, gold, it's a we have a we
made it. We made a like a logo something they
might be selling some merch soon.
Speaker 12 (14:46):
How early do you guys get there?
Speaker 13 (14:48):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What for a seven thirty game? The first bus is
like depending on how far we are from the arena,
like three forty five, four o'clock or something like that.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
Because I mean, in your heyday, right, you hit a
three hour routine.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That was I mean, I mean I've always.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Taken that bus, yeah, because my routine hasn't changed at all,
so I've always been on that bus. But this that
is just the group of guys on this bus are
just great. I mean and everybody else too. But like
it's a I almost look forward. We played in la
You know sometimes when you play where you reside, guys
will let you stay at home.
Speaker 14 (15:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think, Malcolm, when we're in Atlanta and like, guys
like that, I stayed at home and I drove to
the hotel, just taking the bus.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I don't want to miss it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't want to miss anything that I've no doubt
you miss a bus you're down on inside.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Just so, Luke really is your best friend?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, they all are. Who else is on that bus?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Just so?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
The damn Hauser, Peyton, Luke, Justin Jackson, myself.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's the crew. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (15:49):
How you said you mentioned the locker room dynamics and
that this group is a little different. How different are
they because you have been in a lot of locker
rooms between that crew, and then also with Jason and Jalen,
and then you have Grant who is always talking.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, he's talking right now somewhere.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
In market right there. There are some big personalities in
that sure.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, you don't always know what the like, the intricacies
of a team are like until you really get to
the team. You see, you know, you some guys are
very reserved. They don't talk as much to anybody. Some guys,
you know, have their two or three guys they're close
with and don't talk as much to other guys. And
I know it's probably shocking. It's a group of twelve
to fifteen guys. You think everybody is always getting along
(16:35):
with This group is it's like unbelievable. Everybody will talk
to everybody, and everybody has a thing with everybody. We'll
sit on the plane sometimes and just somebody will bring
up like an NBA debate, and it'll just be like
guys yelling like there there, can you reveal one? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
It's a lot a lot of.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
It is like like this player versus this player like
back in the day. Okay, you know, so you'll take
who it could. It could go down to names you
might not even have heard, and we'll debate that, will
debate best cities to travel to, whatever it is like,
those are those are some examples. Cleveland. I love Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
You do not.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean, that's not great. But I'm also from Oklahoma City.
So everybody's like top five worst Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
All right, You're like, bro, like the people are get it?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Who go walk the riverwalk zero point three miles?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We also got Danilo Gallinari back at the beginning of
this podcast season and we talked to him about a lot.
That was a very wide ranging conversation about his career,
his time in Boston, and his rehab, but one moment
stood out above the rest. It was when he told
the story of his first interaction in a preseason NBA
game with Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It was intense.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He remembered it very vividly, and this is him telling
that story and really what he learned from that moment
facing off against Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You come in.
Speaker 13 (18:05):
Dillo as a rookie and oh wait, the Celtics just
won the championship. Now, this is what I want to
get to about, sort of a changing mindset about younger players.
I've been working with Cedric Maxwell, We've been doing the
games together forever and ever talking about being older.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Than you think you are.
Speaker 13 (18:20):
In the preseason, you played against the Celtics as this
is going to be one of your first games ever,
and we both commented, as it's happening. Here's a twenty
year old kid. And there was a sense all the
players we've already talked about at high skill level and
your skill level, we knew what it was, but there
was almost an attitude of not getting pushed around. And
(18:41):
that team, Kevin Garnett, those guys, they love to talk
and they love to push kids around.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Is what they did.
Speaker 13 (18:46):
What I remember more than anything, and Max and I
still talk about it to this day, whenever your name
comes up. Was you walked in there as a twenty
year old kid and you push right back? Do you
remember playing against this that Celtics team and some of
the veterans that like to intimidate when flish?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I remember a couple of moments with KG.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But can we can we talk about the.
Speaker 9 (19:06):
Language or I remember one wise rated we played, We
learned some new words.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We played, we played.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
I remember we played at home in New York against
the Celtics and we are walking.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They called a foul or something. We walk him back.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
We are half court and KG and KG to an
elbow me and I just threw an elbow back and I.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Told him, you're doing it to the wrong guy.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
And from that moment, I'm honest, I had a you know,
always played against each other.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He's a great player.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
I always liked him, uh, And from that moment, honestly,
with KG, even if we played against each other, it
was always great between me and him.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was like you earned the respect.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
I think maybe we can ask him now, but I
think that I earned his respect and and every time
we played against each other, even if you know, for
after he went back and went away from the Celtiast
Minnesota and stuff. It was always great to play against him,
and I honestly could feel that he respected me, and
it was of course mutual respect. Of course he's one
(20:10):
of the best. So but that's something that I always
add in my nature.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I it was.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
It was since I was a little kid, and so
because I always I was always playing against people that
were older than me. When I signed my first contract
a sixteen, I was playing with thirty five years old.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Easy, and so they wanted, you know, they were like
this sixty year old kid coming to play with us
and playing more than me.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
No, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So he gets pushed back, you get hit big time,
badly on and off the core. But you know, it
was it was a great challenge for me, and I
honestly liked it. Sometimes you have to learn how to
like it. Sometimes you like it because it's in your nature,
and so I thought it was you know, just going
the NBA is no difference. So and you know, thinking
(21:05):
about eight, what made my head even harder was the injury. Yeah,
because you get drafted by the Knicks number six, you get.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Booed like crazy, yep. You have to.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
You have to establish yourself in the league. And you
are drafted by the Knicks and you get injured right away.
You only played twenty eight games. The first season is tough.
Then you got to come back the second season and
now prove yourself. And you know I I had a
(21:42):
very good second season, and you know I was able
to turn those boos into applauses. But my path was
even harder because of the early injury that I had
and surgery that I had my first my rookie season.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now, we thought you all might be interested in what
it's like to be an NBA scout. It's a crazy life,
and we were right. This is one of our most
popular episodes of the season. We brought on Austin Ange
and Ashley Battle. They talked about all of their experiences
on the road, and Austin opened up the episode by
telling a wild story from one of his experiences out
in Europe. You need to hear it, and here it
(22:15):
is right now, Austin, I know you've been doing this forever,
a million miles logged on flights, probably stayed in thousands
of hotel rooms at this point. Let's just jump right
in what's the craziest story that you can tell us
from your travel adventures over the years.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've got a number.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Europe is usually where the real real fun happens. Mario Hiszonia.
I was scouting him when he was playing for Barcelona,
and I went to watch a game in Athens, grease
of his and Barcelona was up early and someone called
in a bomb threat, and I didn't know what was
(22:57):
going on there, speaking Greek over the loud speakers and everything.
It's all Greek to you. I grabbed an agent, It's like, hey,
what is going on? He goes, Oh, don't worry, don't worry.
This happens if the gamblers are down and they're worried,
stop the momentum. And so they evacuated us over. They
pull us all out for forty minutes, let the bomb
(23:17):
sniffing dogs do a loop, and then they bring us
all back in. But they don't know, they don't check
tickets on the way back in, so it's just like
a mass hysteria running around.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And but if you know, that's that's the fun.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Did them momentum?
Speaker 10 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Actually yeah, path and Icos made a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Ye did they Did they find up flipping and the
other team one. You know, I don't even at least covered.
Speaker 13 (23:37):
I don't even did you did you make a note
of how Mario responded to the adversity of a bomb
threat he called it.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
It was really just kind of boring, but it was
scary for a minute. And tell everyone, you know, I
looking around, everyone just thought it was routine.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
This is just what we do nowhere everyday thing. So
for the people who don't know, I mean, yeah, before
I met you guys, before I worked in this industry,
I probably would have envisioned this scout is on the road,
sitting in you know, down by the court, having their
own section.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Nice let A lot of times you're just in the crowd, right,
So in that scenario, is that what the experience was?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Were you just sitting in a normal seat?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
You know, I actually can talk about this too, But
it's totally random. How you know, different venues, college, g League, NBA, Europe,
all these different leagues and teams treat visiting.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Scouts, right.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Sometimes you sit on the front row and they change
like a VIP and and no no front row anymore. Yeah,
sometimes you're on the upper deck. I remember one time
I was going to scout Marcus Smart at Oklahoma State
and all the scouts that gave us a seat on.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The upper deck, Like, I can't see. I need to
watch this guy.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We have a big high. Yeah, I need to see.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I snuck down in the student section and I was
jumping with the fans. I started up the whole way.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Just so I could get a bit How old were
you at that side? Did you fit in? This is?
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I mean, how long has Smart been?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Eight years ago?
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Eight years was probably nine years ago?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, yeah, so you know, early thirties you could get in. Yeah, whatever,
you're just getting your masters, whatever it takes. I've jumped
fences in Italy to get in games, whatever it takes.
Sometimes the credentials not there. You got to see the game.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If you ever called in a bomb threat, if you
relate tried.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
To stop my medalm a few times, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
File that away for really desk measures, Ashley, what's the
one that you've got in the chamber for us here?
Speaker 14 (25:24):
Crazy stories? I mean, I haven't been doing this as
long as Austin, so I haven't had any bomb threats yet.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But you're mostly domestic too, Yes.
Speaker 14 (25:33):
I'm mostly domestic, so mine has just been flight coordination
and trying to get to a place on time versus
not making it at all. Earlier last season or last year,
you know, Christmas time, there was that huge, like snowstorm
that was taking over the Midwest. I was in Vegas
(25:54):
at g League showcase, trying to get back to the
East Coast and I called to change my flight and
they were like, oh, did you all the change because
of the weather.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm like, what weather?
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Because you have no clue what's going on really on
the outside, You're just like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, the weather because you're dialed.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
In, cause you're dialed into what you're doing. And I'm like, wait,
there's a snowstorm. I'm like when is this supposed to hit?
So now I'm like trying to be a mediologist and
trying to figure out, like, Okay, if I leave at
this time, i could get to Pittsburgh at this time
and I'll miss all the weather. So long story short,
I went to change my flight. They changed it for
the wrong day. So it's the day of the flight
(26:29):
that I think I'm leaving on, and I'm like figuring out,
like a can you change my flight back to like
change it to this day. You changed the wrong date.
The lady's yelling at me. I'm like, actually, I'm pretty
calm right now. I understand we just did some improvs.
I'm like, yes, yes, and so yes, I understand your frustration.
And however, you know, I'd really like for you to
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change my flight.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That would be really to change it.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
She did, and I made it home in time.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Next, we are turning it back to the twenty eighteen
playoff series between the Celtics and the Sixer, and in
particular the emergence of then rookie nineteen year old Jason Tatum.
Here is what Brad Stevens, l Horford and Doris Burke
saw out of him during that series.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And let me give you a clue. It was something special.
Speaker 15 (27:15):
Like forty minutes tonight, shot clock at eight Tatum against EMBD,
Tatum gotta beat off his feet, great finish at the rim,
two point game.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
Again, how about that play from the rookie.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
This was the moment where my eyes bulged and I said, okay,
all right, the Celtics don't just have a really good rookie.
They have a player who could potentially be an all
time great.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I just think the I don't know.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
If it's ironic or whatever it is, because Joel Embiid
wasn't a dominant player in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He wasn't dominant yet.
Speaker 13 (27:52):
And when you talk about when we talked at the
start of the podcast about rivalries and what makes them great,
it's something we don't get as much in professional sports,
which is the same player staying with the same team
for many years over and over again. And that adds
the rivalries. And you're reading this list of Halcheck and
Doctor J and Larry because those guys stayed with the
team nine tenure, and of course, but Evan didn't. This
is my point, which one of these doesn't belong here
(28:14):
for that reason. Of course, Evan Turner should have been
a twenty year six her.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We all know that, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
So point being here it is, we're sitting here looking
back when nostalgia to a game five years ago, and
we can talk about a game a couple of weeks
ago where Tatum and Embiid are now going head to
head and the layups that Tatum has gotten against Embiid
over the years with different moves and everything, you know,
was sort of born.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
As you said to this moment.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And it's not just us who thought that. Everyone else down.
So let's hear what they had to say about Jason
Tatum and really what most people see as his coming
out party. And this is when he established himself as
I'm a player. Everyone needs to pay attention to.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
This action stabilized me in that game. It felt like, Okay,
we need a good shot. Tatum will figure it out
with a simple step in this and that's when I
knew that it was he was at a different level
than even a couple months before. Then the next game,
(29:13):
he reads a cut and he back cuts for the
game winner. Right, So, yeah, I forget if it was
Smart that hit him or he hit Smart.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yep, I can't.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I can't.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
One of them read the cut and the other cut
and it was just like a It was a It
was a twenty seven year old veteran read, not a
nineteen year old read. But this action, which there were
several versions of this in this game, and he read
it several different ways, was just designed to give him
a step and a read, and he just made the
(29:41):
right play over and over.
Speaker 16 (29:43):
He'd given me chills because he could pull it off.
And Joel Embiid has been one of the elite defenders.
Not only is he elite, he's got dancer's feet at
seven foot two hundred and fifty plus pounds, he can
turn left and right, he can navigate east and west.
And I go back to what I said about the demeanor.
(30:03):
So so Jason hits him with a move. You've got
to get by and not to be sped up, not
to have your mind ahead of where you want so
to dead stop in the restricted area with that guy
in front of you, and to have the presence of
mind to keep your pivot down and then send the
(30:26):
upfake that gets that defender committed, and then finish the play.
At that age, I mean, I couldn't believe he pulled
it off. I was like the fearlessness to attack in
the moment and then again to be able to execute
the move, I mean, shoot, pretty incredible stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was just impressed with this poise.
Speaker 17 (30:50):
I remember just kind of looking over my shoulder and
being like like, Okay, we got something here. Because he
it was timely play. It was you know, reading the defense,
making the simple play, making the right play, but also
not afraid. I'm not afraid at all of the moment.
He I feel like he almost like, you know, he
(31:13):
wanted to be in those positions, uh, to make make
those plays, make those decisions and U and down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You know, he was huge for us a bit. But yeah,
I feel like that Philly series.
Speaker 17 (31:25):
Uh, you know, was kind of a in my eyes,
it was kind of like a like a coming out
party for him.
Speaker 16 (31:31):
Greatness takes what an insatiable appetite to attack your weaknesses,
and we have seen that from the outset of Jalen
or Jason's career. Jason has has identified, Oh, I made
that mistake once in a critical moment. I'm not going
to repeat that mistake. Oh I don't finish going left.
(31:53):
I don't finish well enough in the restricted area. I'm
going to fix that. It takes humility and it takes
work habits, and he's got both. That's how you become great.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Next up, we talked to Rob Williams about what it's
like to be a father in the NBA while these
players are navigating a crazy schedule on a daily basis.
As he said, it's difficult, but he always finds a
way because he loves his kids so much. This was
a very heartwarming episode, and this is one of the
top moments from that conversation. You talked about learning how
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to juggle the league, life and parenthood. That's something that
I want to concentrate on here because I don't think
everyone out there really kind of understand until you're on
that plane and flying in and out and getting home
at midnight after a long game. There's only so many
hours in a day. So I mean, I have a dog,
(32:47):
and I feel like I have barely time to talk
the dog outside. So I can only imagine an actual
human being that's depending on me. How have you tried
to carve the right amount of time out and what
is the right amount of time that you have found
in your personal life.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
So obviously any off day or any day, you know,
just a practice day, but I try to so.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Just to.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Travel on a game like regular day, we hear, you know,
shoot around. We all shoot around, say ten in the morning.
My son will get up around seven. I'll sit with
him when he gets up, just because I know I
have to leave him like an hour for shoot around.
Spend that time with him. When I get back, maybe
spend like two three hours with him. Take a pregaming
(33:37):
up Most of the times, if he doesn't go to
the game, he's down by the time I get it
out or get home. Or even when he does go
to the game, we pull up in the house and
I'm like, hey, hen, did you ready to get out
the car?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Turn around?
Speaker 7 (33:52):
He knocked out. So any like you said, any rare
off day, anytime that we have, you know, I try
to just take him to do something the aquarium, you know,
little jungle gym, take our dog to the park. Anything.
You just gotta It's so hard to plan. It's like
you don't know until the day before. Like we don't
(34:14):
know our schedules until like, you know, the day before.
We may they say we don't have something ding we
got mandatory film and it throws off, you know, the
whole day. So you gotta just work around.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
Do you really wake up at seven with him when
you can?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, I would go very impressive, like seven every morning.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
Even when we get back from a road trip at
three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
In the morning.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, wo no, lay.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
I'm laying in bed with the kids yelling at me
like five more minutes.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I hate the fact that I'm a light sleeper because
I'm always the first to hear him cry in the morning,
and I try to like.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Block it out.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
I try to just close my eyes a little harder,
like maybe.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
Try to hide from the reality that's coming.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I spoke to Al about the same topic, and we're
gonna hear from him later in the episode. But he
talked about you and Jason, and the first and foremost
that he didn't have his first child until he was
seven years in the league, so very different scenario from
you guys, and he just couldn't conceptualize how you guys
were able to juggle the two things. That's one thing
he said. But the other thing that really stood out
(35:23):
to me is that he can just when you guys
are around your kids, he can see like the pure
joy in your eyes. How would you describe.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You can do it now?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, how it makes you feel to be around your
kids and to be a proud parent.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What is that emotion?
Speaker 7 (35:42):
It's actually funny because when he goes to sleep at nighttime,
like I'll be on my phone and I'll see it.
I was just with him three hours ago before he
went to sleep, and I see a picture of something
and I'm like, man, I can't wait till you wake
so so I can hug him, but that joy man
is just seeing I think it's two things for me.
(36:04):
It's seeing myself in him, and it is seeing him
learn to do things on his own. I think that's
the most proud he makes me. As his dad's funny,
I'm actually smiling by the hard.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But you're proud man.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You can tell.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Even when he learned how to walk, you know, we
first tried to get him to walk. He take a
couple of steps and he would fall and he was
just crawl you know, the rest of the way. But
now like if he falls, he'd get back up, you know.
And he doesn't know little things like that, you know.
They I'm smiling, biggest, you know, the biggest day behind him,
but it's little stuff like that, man, And I think
(36:40):
I think he might be saying dad, ad, But I
don't want to be the person that tooth.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
On the way.
Speaker 12 (36:47):
It is clear that is easier to say than mama
for that.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And lastly, we're going to wrap up with Elite season
episode with the one and only the Captain Paul Pierce.
He joined us to talk about pretty much everything from
his career here in Boston. One of the things that
really stood out was when he discussed his early years
here in Boston when he was trying to learn about
what it was like to be a Celtic and really
what he pointed out that really stands out in his
(37:13):
mind were his conversations with the one and only, the Legend,
the pillar of this organization read our back.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
We all know you grew up a Lakers guy, you
grew up in LA. How long did it take you
to understand and like integrate yourself into the culture here,
because you know, we can't lie like that's not gonna
happen overnight for anyone like You've you got to learn
that history, you got to understand, you got to see
those guys and have those conversations. So I'm just curious
(37:41):
what that process was like for you as a young
guy coming into the league.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Man, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You know, I was on the outside looking at, you know,
with Boston culture and what Boston tradition was all about,
because I didn't really follow it back closings. I did
the Lakers, Yeah, but for it hit right away, and
you know when it hit when I first got there
and I had my first conversation, like you know, I
was talking Red r back, like one of my first
weeks there. I was like, whoa, hold all, this is
(38:09):
the dude I see on the NBA highlights smoking a
cigar celebrate eleven twelve championships. This is really him right here,
you know, now having a conversation and you smoking cigar
with him. No, no, I was sitting there and this
is when I first met him. Yeah, you know, he
was having this golf charity tournament and this was like,
(38:33):
this is like after the season or before the season,
one or the other, but this is like one of
my I think my second year because we're in a lockout,
so maybe my second year. And it was just like, man,
there go. You know, I'm just sitting down really talking
to him, and he sat there and I remember we
sat on the couch and I think we might have
talked for again thirty minutes. I was like, man, he
really paying attention. He really he really sees something in me,
(38:57):
you know. And it was just like from that point on,
I was like, man, man, oh man, I gotta appreciate this.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I get to be around so many legends and looking
up every day. It's just it just caught off. I
probably have to say my second third year, I was
I was head first o then.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So it took a couple of years for you to
like get to that point.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yeah, definitely, a couple of years of being around the
legends and being and getting lost in the city through
the rotaries. You know, I had to and I.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Do that every day. It took a while for that
for me to get used to that.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
But uh, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Was like after man, my second or third year, I
was all in.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
And then yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Me after my first year, I spent the whole summer
in Boston, and then the next year I spent another
summer in there. So I was there just just eating
it all up, getting used to the city, getting out
of the community. You know, I already spent a lot
of time at home my first couple of years.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That was a conscious decision or was that like did
the team ask you to do that?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
On a team that asked me?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I just wanted to be in a gym.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
That was the only I can get the gym twenty
four to seven and three sticks every night, and so
it was just like me and my best friend come
out like, look we can go We'll go to the
gym in the Morgan But I had twenty four hour
access to the gym, and we'll going to gym and
lay at night. You know, it'd be tires where I'm
going there. Rick Patino was in there ten o'clock. He'll
see me in there, you know, me and my me
and my boy working out.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's awesome, man, those are great memories. So we touched
on having the legends around. But then there's also the
element of you're coming on to a team early in
your career when there's other guys who have already gone
through it. They've already had those few seasons with the Celtics,
They've already integrated themselves into the culture. And we're talking
(40:41):
about guys like Kenny Anderson Antoine had been here for
a couple of seasons when you came in. What's the
process that you experienced as a young guy of like
them showing you what it means to be a Celtic.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Well, yeah, I'm definitely watching and I'm asking questions. I'm
just seeing everybody's habits. You know, when you first get there,
you know, you take a look around and you see,
you know, yeah, you got these other ten, twelve, thirteen
guys on the team. But you look and you're like, man,
who best fits where I'm trying to go? You know,
who habits am I trying to follow, you know, on
(41:19):
the court, off the court? And you look around and
be like, all right, I'm gonna get under this best
wing cause I like, you know, what he's doing. I
likes what he's teaching me. You know, he's really making sense,
showing me the ropes, you know. So you know, early
on it was like Twad Danga bell Rows, you know,
was real close.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
He will.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
So I took all like two or three guys where man,
Danny gonna be here. Gain, I'm gonna get shot up
with dang man, he can shoot me. And I'm gonna
get here early. You know, I'm gonna work on some
posts with Twad. He's like, man, you need to get here.
And I was always made an emphasis to work under
them guys, just to kind of see the routine and
learn a routine. And once I figured out what my
routine was gonna be, and that took a few years,
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you know, because these guys are established pros. You look
at guys like Kenny Anderson who've been in the league,
you know, and you look at the guys who had
that longevities who like Damon and Kenny. Yeah, yeah, we
had twa but he was still learning too as he
was gone because ear year, and so I was looking
at those guys who had a little bit more time
in the league and just kind of see, you know,
they they've been here for a little while, so I'm
(42:21):
gonna watch them a little more close and they they.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Figure it out.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So that is it for season three of you from
the rafters. We are so appreciative of every single one
of you who gave us a listen or a watch.
We took this thing to YouTube this year. We hope
you enjoyed that. So for Abby Chin, for Sean Grandy,
for our producer John Picard, thank you so much. We
can't wait to see you for season four next season.
And in the meantime, let's.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Go get that banner. See you later, everyone,
Welcome everyone. This is View from the Rafters Today.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We're bringing in a man who hails from basketball country.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Life is funny.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Okay, oh don't go there, not yet.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, we talked about him. The bust one boys is
the crazy story, not actor is a.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Basketball The crazy thing to me is like where you
came from. Yeah, we're all older than we think.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
We are always gold lead gray baby.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It is hard to believe, but season three of You
from the Rafters is coming to a close, and we
thought what better way to close it out than looking
back at the best moments from the first eleven episodes
of the season. And there's no other way to start
that out than by looking back at last week's episode
when Luke Cornett stepped in as guest toast and he
delivered the goods. If you haven't seen it, you need
(00:45):
to go watch it. But in the meantime, if you
want to just see the top clips, here they are,
and trust me, there are a lot of them.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Oh so obviously you know from your time with Virginia
on you've had the nickname as the President's Dude or
the President do to your striking resemblance to number forty
four present Barack Obama. You know your voice, your luck,
all the stuff. I'm sure you're familiar with this, are you?
Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 6 (01:10):
Yeah? All right.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Well, also, you've been pretty political or politically active, and
I was just wondering if you might have a future
campaign on your own. I actually pulled teammates out to see, like,
what question they'd want me to ask you concerning your
future campaign. And there's really just one thing that came
around resoundingly, like every single person on the team was
(01:31):
primarily concerned with this. So if you could, you know,
answer from your not your delegates, so constituents.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
So the one question I got from the team was unanimous,
what would you do to decrease tax rates for high
income earners?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Inflation is a big problem.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
So they're you don't have any plans. I don't have
an answer.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
You don't have any plans for that.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
I didn't say I was over running. You might want
to prepare thyself. People say I should run. I've never
said that, so.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Okay, well, you know I'm not obligated to answer that.
So I think you should be a little more glass
half full on that one. I think you can do it.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Okay, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
There we go, Malcolm Brogden running for president twenty How
do you have to be thirty five? Thirty five? So
you could have done it like forty years ago?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Is that right? There you go.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
The joke there is that he's old because he spent
all this time in college. All right, all right, so
now it's time to this is what we all came
here for. And uh, you know, so it's been well
documented for Malcolm throughout this year. He's a top candidate
for a very prescidious NBA Regular Season Award. I mean
it's there's no surpike. People have been talking about it
(02:50):
all year, and I bet you're wondering. I was like,
why we're so adamant about having you on and like
and I didn't really want to do it, but it
was like, no, we need to get him here, We
need to get him here.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
We get here.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
Well, I really can't believe that, like the powers that
be allowed like this to be the time and place
for it, but it's how they decided to go. So
it is without much further ado, that I would like
to award you, Malcolm Brogden with the two, twenty twenty
(03:21):
three Boston Celtics Training Room Trivia third Place Award. So
here's the award, third place Award. We do pregame trivia
every day and on the road games with ninety minutes
on the clock. And Malcolm this year bowed through thick
and thin no matter what happened. I say, he showed
(03:43):
up every single day and he really gave his best.
And yeah, third place is something really to be proud of.
It's signed by the you know, the leader, Paul West
of the of the Trivia Commission, and I just wanted
to award that for you. And it also comes with
a little bag of Monster trail Mix. I made a
stop at Target the other day. Malcolm is a very
(04:06):
disciplined eater, but we've shared a bond about uh secretly
gorging on uh monster trail mix because it feels like
trail mix, which is a good snack, but frankly, it's
it's dessert. So you're your uh.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Your ward. I'm not taking. I'm not taking the award.
You cheated, you cheated, the blood money, you cheated.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
You don't take the award.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
No, listen, you did all year long to get that.
It's not cheating to get the first because you're.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Are you first?
Speaker 6 (04:33):
What are you first?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Oh am I I I haven't checked the I just
was here.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
If you present this for you, did you win?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I mean I was winning for most of the year
and so unless something happened in the last came I remember,
I'm not about taking it off.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I'm not taking it. And third place, I'm not taking it.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
That's that's not very gracious of you. That's a pillow,
not a gratitude. Well, I guess you Maybe I'll frame
it and then it'll be a little more sure to
do it.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
I was.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I didn't cheat, but that's neither in there. I played
by the rules of the game. You guys did not
like it, but the results to be for themselves. So yeah,
that's about it. You know, a lot of fun we
had here, Malcolm Brogden. You know, I gotta say it's
a pleasure having you on. You're the very first guest
(05:27):
a day that will forever go down and in for me. Well,
that's probably not it's trying not I how I want
to land in with that.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
That's not great.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But yeah, thanks for having me on and I'm sorry
that you didn't want to accept your prestigious award, but
lying onto it.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
For you, this was solid until you brought that out.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh what are you talking about? You did really good.
Third is really good and there's like five competitors, so
third of five is like middle of the pack. I
think third of five if you if you had a
full team for five people, I think there'd be two
star arders, So technically you'd be the sixth man of
the trivia. Thanks Malcolm, the pleasure to have you on.
(06:08):
Love you, Sam Hauser. So is your first real, like
full season in the NBA last year spending time in
Maine and stuff, and believe it or not, Samuel Hawser,
Samuel David arts truly right here. He led the NBA
in defensive rating and also at a point near the
very end of the season he was leading the league
and percentage of defensive possessions that he was isolated against,
(06:32):
meaning teams keep trying to get him in the action.
Although you lead the NBA in defensive rating, and so
I'm just wondering, is there any possible reason why you
think teams would continue to do this despite the evidence
that states otherwise. Yeah, you know, I think it might
just be my experience in the league, you know, experiencing
(06:54):
the league that you're kind of younger. Yeah, I think
that might be it. Yeah, that's what you think. It is,
no idea you're talking about there, Yep. So yeah, we
can we can know some. It doesn't really matter. You
can have some if you want.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Feel free to outbreak.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
O love a good schedder. I know it's not like
Wisconsin Wisconsin cheese, but I did my best that I could.
It was after a bad time. That'll make something happen,
all right. Uh So we got a new little segment here.
If there's one thing that people in this team, an
organization knows Samuel for, what is it that they always
say about you, sam They always say this about you.
(07:33):
They say that Samuel Hauser, he it's from Wisconsin. No,
that it's just that. Oh he's that Samuel Hawser. He's
the Frank calli Endo of the NBA because he's got
elite impressions. So so we're gonna We're gonna do a
couple of impressions here.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Here.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I'm gonna hand you the line. Okay, first I'm gonna
introduce the character, and then I'm gonna hand him the line.
Please do uh So, this would be uh Ryan Gosling's
dad from the two thousand blockbuster film Remember the Titans
after his son is subbed out. Uh So, once again,
this would be Ryan Gossling's dad from the two thousand
blockbuster Remember the Titans after his son was subbed out? Yep, Okay,
(08:17):
here's the line. Y yep, that's the that's the first
one second one we'll see if you're willing. Uh, it's
it's one of two people. It's either our Australian performance
coaches Jase Slaney or and or physical therapist Steve mat
(08:38):
I've got a line for you if you uh, if
you want to give that one a shot, yes, I
might give it a shot after you as well.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Oi.
Speaker 8 (08:46):
I mean thinks you should put some oys on that
you should.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
There you go into it a little bit more usually
when they talk this is how that's fun fact about
Australia is it's basically Cockney English. And I mean, at
least in my mind. I'm just taking this from The Kingsman,
That's where I'm stealing this from. And Peaky Blinders is
apparently show, but I don't really know because I think
(09:12):
it's a little bit more it's a little bit more subtle,
a little more subtle. So I'm like, hm hm, oh,
I mean thinks he's put some ets on that you.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Should it's so aggressive.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
All right, Oh, here we go, last one of the impressions.
I'm getting warm. All right, Sam, you just read the
below sentence. This one was actually at the request of
a certain teammate who will remain nameless. Yeah, not even
a character. We just wanted to read that sentence. All right.
(09:55):
The talent he you for this, Luke, the talented baggage
man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag. Wow.
Speaker 9 (10:07):
Can I you want me to do it again?
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (10:11):
I talented baggage man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
That was pretty good ring out the Midwest.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, the talented baggage man balanced and flagged my jaguar bag.
Something that sounds sounds right. I guess that one wasn't
even impression. I was just asking like, yeah, yeah, I
don't know a lot of he knows, but our Samuel
is actually sounds very condescending to say it that way.
(10:39):
He's recently engaged and he's playing getting married this summer. Congratulations, Sam,
Thank you awesome. Yeah, thanks guys. Yeah, appreciate. Uh. So
I'd like to dedicate this last segment to the absolute
best part of being engaged. And so this segment, I'm
just gonna uh welcome to unsolicited marriage advice with Luke Cornette.
(11:01):
It's all you're gonna get for the next like five months.
Right here we go. So this is the first one.
I want to hear what you think about this. So
there's some good advice for you. Marriage isn't a contest,
So never keep score, said the loser, right, I can
(11:22):
I can take that. I won't. I won't say the score.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I can take that with me.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I won't say the score of my own. But like,
let's just say it looks like me and you are
playing the whole fourth quarter, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, ah,
this is just my turn to say jokes. So I
(11:46):
don't even I'm not even sure while you're here. A
good marriage is one where each partner secretly suspects they
got the better deal. Well, I only had to pay
my father in law two goats for my wife, so
I'd say I got a stick.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
You tell that to your father in law.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
No, that's like so used to be a thing of
like Dowries, you know, and uh yeah, hopefully he doesn't
say this.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
To him.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Eli Lilly coaching at Butler Coaching for Boston now President,
Why do you find it so hard to hold on
to a job?
Speaker 11 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's one of the one of the
challenges is is I think people get sick of me
after a certain amount of time. So the clock is
ticking again, and so I'm just always on my toes.
What's the secret to running a successful NBA franchise? The
answer might surprise you. Next on View from.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
The Rafters, Can I can I take a guess?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know. I tell you my second year.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
You should ask Zaron my guess that it was have
had Danny Ain's draft franchise altering talent, no question.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
So that's how we ended the season with Luke Cornett.
Back in February, we opened the season with a live
recording at Encore Boston Harbor with six time All Star
Blake Griffin, and during that conversation, Blake pretty much broke
the Internet by revealing to everyone that the Bus one
Boys are a group within the Self Excess, the group
that rides the first bus over to games and the
(13:25):
content that came out of that. I mean everyone was
loving it. It carried on the entire season. Here is
Blake breaking the news of the Bus one boys.
Speaker 12 (13:33):
How close have you gotten with that bench crew? I mean,
you guys always walk into the arena together, especial Hoofer
on their phone, Peyton and Luke and Sam Hauser.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, we call her so if you're best friend in
the world. Luke is awesome, man.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But I don't know if everyone hasn't watched like you
guys on the bench next to each other, it might
be the best part of every night.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
It's he's so funny, man, I playing unbelievably. Well, that's
another guy. The way he's playing now seems like he
could go to a team and start. If not start,
he could play a lot of minutes. Lucas Gray. We
call ourselves the Bus one boys because we always take
the first We always take the first bus. There's three
(14:12):
buses to the arena on a unaway games, we always
take the first bus and the energy is pretty electric.
Back are you on? Are you on the first bus? Well,
you're missing.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Out, not allowed on the first bus.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Probably that can we can we launch another podcast of
you guys going on bus one.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's in a game. Every night, we'll bring a microphone
and just let you guys see.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
What we talk about.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Listen, if I know Luke Cornett and Blake Griffin, that.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Would be yeah, gold, it's a we have a we
made it. We made a like a logo something they
might be selling some merch soon.
Speaker 12 (14:46):
How early do you guys get there?
Speaker 13 (14:48):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What for a seven thirty game? The first bus is
like depending on how far we are from the arena,
like three forty five, four o'clock or something like that.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
Because I mean, in your heyday, right, you hit a
three hour routine.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
That was I mean, I mean I've always.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Taken that bus, yeah, because my routine hasn't changed at all,
so I've always been on that bus. But this that
is just the group of guys on this bus are
just great. I mean and everybody else too. But like
it's a I almost look forward. We played in la
You know sometimes when you play where you reside, guys
will let you stay at home.
Speaker 14 (15:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I think, Malcolm, when we're in Atlanta and like, guys
like that, I stayed at home and I drove to
the hotel, just taking the bus.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I don't want to miss it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I don't want to miss anything that I've no doubt
you miss a bus you're down on inside.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Just so, Luke really is your best friend?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, they all are. Who else is on that bus?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Just so?
Speaker 3 (15:40):
The damn Hauser, Peyton, Luke, Justin Jackson, myself.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
That's the crew. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (15:49):
How you said you mentioned the locker room dynamics and
that this group is a little different. How different are
they because you have been in a lot of locker
rooms between that crew, and then also with Jason and Jalen,
and then you have Grant who is always talking.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, he's talking right now somewhere.
Speaker 12 (16:09):
In market right there. There are some big personalities in
that sure.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, you don't always know what the like, the intricacies
of a team are like until you really get to
the team. You see, you know, you some guys are
very reserved. They don't talk as much to anybody. Some guys,
you know, have their two or three guys they're close
with and don't talk as much to other guys. And
I know it's probably shocking. It's a group of twelve
to fifteen guys. You think everybody is always getting along
(16:35):
with This group is it's like unbelievable. Everybody will talk
to everybody, and everybody has a thing with everybody. We'll
sit on the plane sometimes and just somebody will bring
up like an NBA debate, and it'll just be like
guys yelling like there there, can you reveal one? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
It's a lot a lot of.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
It is like like this player versus this player like
back in the day. Okay, you know, so you'll take
who it could. It could go down to names you
might not even have heard, and we'll debate that, will
debate best cities to travel to, whatever it is like,
those are those are some examples. Cleveland. I love Cleveland.
Speaker 8 (17:16):
You do not.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean, that's not great. But I'm also from Oklahoma City.
So everybody's like top five worst Oklahoma City.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
All right, You're like, bro, like the people are get it?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Who go walk the riverwalk zero point three miles?
Speaker 6 (17:36):
All right.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
We also got Danilo Gallinari back at the beginning of
this podcast season and we talked to him about a lot.
That was a very wide ranging conversation about his career,
his time in Boston, and his rehab, but one moment
stood out above the rest. It was when he told
the story of his first interaction in a preseason NBA
game with Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It was intense.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
He remembered it very vividly, and this is him telling
that story and really what he learned from that moment
facing off against Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
You come in.
Speaker 13 (18:05):
Dillo as a rookie and oh wait, the Celtics just
won the championship. Now, this is what I want to
get to about, sort of a changing mindset about younger players.
I've been working with Cedric Maxwell, We've been doing the
games together forever and ever talking about being older.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Than you think you are.
Speaker 13 (18:20):
In the preseason, you played against the Celtics as this
is going to be one of your first games ever,
and we both commented, as it's happening. Here's a twenty
year old kid. And there was a sense all the
players we've already talked about at high skill level and
your skill level, we knew what it was, but there
was almost an attitude of not getting pushed around. And
(18:41):
that team, Kevin Garnett, those guys, they love to talk
and they love to push kids around.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Is what they did.
Speaker 13 (18:46):
What I remember more than anything, and Max and I
still talk about it to this day, whenever your name
comes up. Was you walked in there as a twenty
year old kid and you push right back? Do you
remember playing against this that Celtics team and some of
the veterans that like to intimidate when flish?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I remember a couple of moments with KG.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
But can we can we talk about the.
Speaker 9 (19:06):
Language or I remember one wise rated we played, We
learned some new words.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
We played, we played.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
I remember we played at home in New York against
the Celtics and we are walking.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
They called a foul or something. We walk him back.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
We are half court and KG and KG to an
elbow me and I just threw an elbow back and I.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Told him, you're doing it to the wrong guy.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
And from that moment, I'm honest, I had a you know,
always played against each other.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
He's a great player.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
I always liked him, uh, And from that moment, honestly,
with KG, even if we played against each other, it
was always great between me and him.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
It was like you earned the respect.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
You know.
Speaker 9 (19:48):
I think maybe we can ask him now, but I
think that I earned his respect and and every time
we played against each other, even if you know, for
after he went back and went away from the Celtiast
Minnesota and stuff. It was always great to play against him,
and I honestly could feel that he respected me, and
it was of course mutual respect. Of course he's one
(20:10):
of the best. So but that's something that I always
add in my nature.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I it was.
Speaker 9 (20:20):
It was since I was a little kid, and so
because I always I was always playing against people that
were older than me. When I signed my first contract
a sixteen, I was playing with thirty five years old.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Easy, and so they wanted, you know, they were like
this sixty year old kid coming to play with us
and playing more than me.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
No, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
So he gets pushed back, you get hit big time,
badly on and off the core. But you know, it
was it was a great challenge for me, and I
honestly liked it. Sometimes you have to learn how to
like it. Sometimes you like it because it's in your nature,
and so I thought it was you know, just going
the NBA is no difference. So and you know, thinking
(21:05):
about eight, what made my head even harder was the injury. Yeah,
because you get drafted by the Knicks number six, you get.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Booed like crazy, yep. You have to.
Speaker 9 (21:21):
You have to establish yourself in the league. And you
are drafted by the Knicks and you get injured right away.
You only played twenty eight games. The first season is tough.
Then you got to come back the second season and
now prove yourself. And you know I I had a
(21:42):
very good second season, and you know I was able
to turn those boos into applauses. But my path was
even harder because of the early injury that I had
and surgery that I had my first my rookie season.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now, we thought you all might be interested in what
it's like to be an NBA scout. It's a crazy life,
and we were right. This is one of our most
popular episodes of the season. We brought on Austin Ange
and Ashley Battle. They talked about all of their experiences
on the road, and Austin opened up the episode by
telling a wild story from one of his experiences out
in Europe. You need to hear it, and here it
(22:15):
is right now, Austin, I know you've been doing this forever,
a million miles logged on flights, probably stayed in thousands
of hotel rooms at this point. Let's just jump right
in what's the craziest story that you can tell us
from your travel adventures over the years.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've got a number.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Europe is usually where the real real fun happens. Mario Hiszonia.
I was scouting him when he was playing for Barcelona,
and I went to watch a game in Athens, grease
of his and Barcelona was up early and someone called
in a bomb threat, and I didn't know what was
(22:57):
going on there, speaking Greek over the loud speakers and everything.
It's all Greek to you. I grabbed an agent, It's like, hey,
what is going on? He goes, Oh, don't worry, don't worry.
This happens if the gamblers are down and they're worried,
stop the momentum. And so they evacuated us over. They
pull us all out for forty minutes, let the bomb
(23:17):
sniffing dogs do a loop, and then they bring us
all back in. But they don't know, they don't check
tickets on the way back in, so it's just like
a mass hysteria running around.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And but if you know, that's that's the fun.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Did them momentum?
Speaker 10 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Actually yeah, path and Icos made a little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Ye did they Did they find up flipping and the
other team one. You know, I don't even at least covered.
Speaker 13 (23:37):
I don't even did you did you make a note
of how Mario responded to the adversity of a bomb
threat he called it.
Speaker 8 (23:43):
It was really just kind of boring, but it was
scary for a minute. And tell everyone, you know, I
looking around, everyone just thought it was routine.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
This is just what we do nowhere everyday thing. So
for the people who don't know, I mean, yeah, before
I met you guys, before I worked in this industry,
I probably would have envisioned this scout is on the road,
sitting in you know, down by the court, having their
own section.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Nice let A lot of times you're just in the crowd, right,
So in that scenario, is that what the experience was?
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Were you just sitting in a normal seat?
Speaker 8 (24:16):
You know, I actually can talk about this too, But
it's totally random. How you know, different venues, college, g League, NBA, Europe,
all these different leagues and teams treat visiting.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Scouts, right.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
Sometimes you sit on the front row and they change
like a VIP and and no no front row anymore. Yeah,
sometimes you're on the upper deck. I remember one time
I was going to scout Marcus Smart at Oklahoma State
and all the scouts that gave us a seat on.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
The upper deck, Like, I can't see. I need to
watch this guy.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
We have a big high. Yeah, I need to see.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I snuck down in the student section and I was
jumping with the fans. I started up the whole way.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Just so I could get a bit How old were
you at that side? Did you fit in? This is?
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I mean, how long has Smart been?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Eight years ago?
Speaker 8 (24:58):
Eight years was probably nine years ago?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Okay, yeah, so you know, early thirties you could get in. Yeah, whatever,
you're just getting your masters, whatever it takes. I've jumped
fences in Italy to get in games, whatever it takes.
Sometimes the credentials not there. You got to see the game.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
If you ever called in a bomb threat, if you
relate tried.
Speaker 14 (25:14):
To stop my medalm a few times, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
File that away for really desk measures, Ashley, what's the
one that you've got in the chamber for us here?
Speaker 14 (25:24):
Crazy stories? I mean, I haven't been doing this as
long as Austin, so I haven't had any bomb threats yet.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
But you're mostly domestic too, Yes.
Speaker 14 (25:33):
I'm mostly domestic, so mine has just been flight coordination
and trying to get to a place on time versus
not making it at all. Earlier last season or last year,
you know, Christmas time, there was that huge, like snowstorm
that was taking over the Midwest. I was in Vegas
(25:54):
at g League showcase, trying to get back to the
East Coast and I called to change my flight and
they were like, oh, did you all the change because
of the weather.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm like, what weather?
Speaker 14 (26:01):
Because you have no clue what's going on really on
the outside, You're just like, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah, the weather because you're dialed.
Speaker 14 (26:07):
In, cause you're dialed into what you're doing. And I'm like, wait,
there's a snowstorm. I'm like when is this supposed to hit?
So now I'm like trying to be a mediologist and
trying to figure out, like, Okay, if I leave at
this time, i could get to Pittsburgh at this time
and I'll miss all the weather. So long story short,
I went to change my flight. They changed it for
the wrong day. So it's the day of the flight
(26:29):
that I think I'm leaving on, and I'm like figuring out,
like a can you change my flight back to like
change it to this day. You changed the wrong date.
The lady's yelling at me. I'm like, actually, I'm pretty
calm right now. I understand we just did some improvs.
I'm like, yes, yes, and so yes, I understand your frustration.
And however, you know, I'd really like for you to
(26:50):
change my flight.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
That would be really to change it.
Speaker 14 (26:52):
She did, and I made it home in time.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Next, we are turning it back to the twenty eighteen
playoff series between the Celtics and the Sixer, and in
particular the emergence of then rookie nineteen year old Jason Tatum.
Here is what Brad Stevens, l Horford and Doris Burke
saw out of him during that series.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And let me give you a clue. It was something special.
Speaker 15 (27:15):
Like forty minutes tonight, shot clock at eight Tatum against EMBD,
Tatum gotta beat off his feet, great finish at the rim,
two point game.
Speaker 12 (27:26):
Again, how about that play from the rookie.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
This was the moment where my eyes bulged and I said, okay,
all right, the Celtics don't just have a really good rookie.
They have a player who could potentially be an all
time great.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I just think the I don't know.
Speaker 13 (27:46):
If it's ironic or whatever it is, because Joel Embiid
wasn't a dominant player in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
He wasn't dominant yet.
Speaker 13 (27:52):
And when you talk about when we talked at the
start of the podcast about rivalries and what makes them great,
it's something we don't get as much in professional sports,
which is the same player staying with the same team
for many years over and over again. And that adds
the rivalries. And you're reading this list of Halcheck and
Doctor J and Larry because those guys stayed with the
team nine tenure, and of course, but Evan didn't. This
is my point, which one of these doesn't belong here
(28:14):
for that reason. Of course, Evan Turner should have been
a twenty year six her.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
We all know that, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 13 (28:18):
So point being here it is, we're sitting here looking
back when nostalgia to a game five years ago, and
we can talk about a game a couple of weeks
ago where Tatum and Embiid are now going head to
head and the layups that Tatum has gotten against Embiid
over the years with different moves and everything, you know,
was sort of born.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
As you said to this moment.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
And it's not just us who thought that. Everyone else down.
So let's hear what they had to say about Jason
Tatum and really what most people see as his coming
out party. And this is when he established himself as
I'm a player. Everyone needs to pay attention to.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
This action stabilized me in that game. It felt like, Okay,
we need a good shot. Tatum will figure it out
with a simple step in this and that's when I
knew that it was he was at a different level
than even a couple months before. Then the next game,
(29:13):
he reads a cut and he back cuts for the
game winner. Right, So, yeah, I forget if it was
Smart that hit him or he hit Smart.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yep, I can't.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I can't.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
One of them read the cut and the other cut
and it was just like a It was a It
was a twenty seven year old veteran read, not a
nineteen year old read. But this action, which there were
several versions of this in this game, and he read
it several different ways, was just designed to give him
a step and a read, and he just made the
(29:41):
right play over and over.
Speaker 16 (29:43):
He'd given me chills because he could pull it off.
And Joel Embiid has been one of the elite defenders.
Not only is he elite, he's got dancer's feet at
seven foot two hundred and fifty plus pounds, he can
turn left and right, he can navigate east and west.
And I go back to what I said about the demeanor.
(30:03):
So so Jason hits him with a move. You've got
to get by and not to be sped up, not
to have your mind ahead of where you want so
to dead stop in the restricted area with that guy
in front of you, and to have the presence of
mind to keep your pivot down and then send the
(30:26):
upfake that gets that defender committed, and then finish the play.
At that age, I mean, I couldn't believe he pulled
it off. I was like the fearlessness to attack in
the moment and then again to be able to execute
the move, I mean, shoot, pretty incredible stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I was just impressed with this poise.
Speaker 17 (30:50):
I remember just kind of looking over my shoulder and
being like like, Okay, we got something here. Because he
it was timely play. It was you know, reading the defense,
making the simple play, making the right play, but also
not afraid. I'm not afraid at all of the moment.
He I feel like he almost like, you know, he
(31:13):
wanted to be in those positions, uh, to make make
those plays, make those decisions and U and down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
You know, he was huge for us a bit. But yeah,
I feel like that Philly series.
Speaker 17 (31:25):
Uh, you know, was kind of a in my eyes,
it was kind of like a like a coming out
party for him.
Speaker 16 (31:31):
Greatness takes what an insatiable appetite to attack your weaknesses,
and we have seen that from the outset of Jalen
or Jason's career. Jason has has identified, Oh, I made
that mistake once in a critical moment. I'm not going
to repeat that mistake. Oh I don't finish going left.
(31:53):
I don't finish well enough in the restricted area. I'm
going to fix that. It takes humility and it takes
work habits, and he's got both. That's how you become great.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Next up, we talked to Rob Williams about what it's
like to be a father in the NBA while these
players are navigating a crazy schedule on a daily basis.
As he said, it's difficult, but he always finds a
way because he loves his kids so much. This was
a very heartwarming episode, and this is one of the
top moments from that conversation. You talked about learning how
(32:26):
to juggle the league, life and parenthood. That's something that
I want to concentrate on here because I don't think
everyone out there really kind of understand until you're on
that plane and flying in and out and getting home
at midnight after a long game. There's only so many
hours in a day. So I mean, I have a dog,
(32:47):
and I feel like I have barely time to talk
the dog outside. So I can only imagine an actual
human being that's depending on me. How have you tried
to carve the right amount of time out and what
is the right amount of time that you have found
in your personal life.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
So obviously any off day or any day, you know,
just a practice day, but I try to so.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Just to.
Speaker 7 (33:14):
Travel on a game like regular day, we hear, you know,
shoot around. We all shoot around, say ten in the morning.
My son will get up around seven. I'll sit with
him when he gets up, just because I know I
have to leave him like an hour for shoot around.
Spend that time with him. When I get back, maybe
spend like two three hours with him. Take a pregaming
(33:37):
up Most of the times, if he doesn't go to
the game, he's down by the time I get it
out or get home. Or even when he does go
to the game, we pull up in the house and
I'm like, hey, hen, did you ready to get out
the car?
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Turn around?
Speaker 7 (33:52):
He knocked out. So any like you said, any rare
off day, anytime that we have, you know, I try
to just take him to do something the aquarium, you know,
little jungle gym, take our dog to the park. Anything.
You just gotta It's so hard to plan. It's like
you don't know until the day before. Like we don't
(34:14):
know our schedules until like, you know, the day before.
We may they say we don't have something ding we
got mandatory film and it throws off, you know, the
whole day. So you gotta just work around.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
Do you really wake up at seven with him when
you can?
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, I would go very impressive, like seven every morning.
Speaker 12 (34:31):
Even when we get back from a road trip at
three o'clock.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
In the morning.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, wo no, lay.
Speaker 12 (34:36):
I'm laying in bed with the kids yelling at me
like five more minutes.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I hate the fact that I'm a light sleeper because
I'm always the first to hear him cry in the morning,
and I try to like.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Block it out.
Speaker 7 (34:51):
I try to just close my eyes a little harder,
like maybe.
Speaker 12 (34:58):
Try to hide from the reality that's coming.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I spoke to Al about the same topic, and we're
gonna hear from him later in the episode. But he
talked about you and Jason, and the first and foremost
that he didn't have his first child until he was
seven years in the league, so very different scenario from
you guys, and he just couldn't conceptualize how you guys
were able to juggle the two things. That's one thing
he said. But the other thing that really stood out
(35:23):
to me is that he can just when you guys
are around your kids, he can see like the pure
joy in your eyes. How would you describe.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
You can do it now?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, how it makes you feel to be around your
kids and to be a proud parent.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
What is that emotion?
Speaker 7 (35:42):
It's actually funny because when he goes to sleep at nighttime,
like I'll be on my phone and I'll see it.
I was just with him three hours ago before he
went to sleep, and I see a picture of something
and I'm like, man, I can't wait till you wake
so so I can hug him, but that joy man
is just seeing I think it's two things for me.
(36:04):
It's seeing myself in him, and it is seeing him
learn to do things on his own. I think that's
the most proud he makes me. As his dad's funny,
I'm actually smiling by the hard.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
But you're proud man.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
You can tell.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Even when he learned how to walk, you know, we
first tried to get him to walk. He take a
couple of steps and he would fall and he was
just crawl you know, the rest of the way. But
now like if he falls, he'd get back up, you know.
And he doesn't know little things like that, you know.
They I'm smiling, biggest, you know, the biggest day behind him,
but it's little stuff like that, man, And I think
(36:40):
I think he might be saying dad, ad, But I
don't want to be the person that tooth.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
On the way.
Speaker 12 (36:47):
It is clear that is easier to say than mama
for that.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
And lastly, we're going to wrap up with Elite season
episode with the one and only the Captain Paul Pierce.
He joined us to talk about pretty much everything from
his career here in Boston. One of the things that
really stood out was when he discussed his early years
here in Boston when he was trying to learn about
what it was like to be a Celtic and really
what he pointed out that really stands out in his
(37:13):
mind were his conversations with the one and only, the Legend,
the pillar of this organization read our back.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
We all know you grew up a Lakers guy, you
grew up in LA. How long did it take you
to understand and like integrate yourself into the culture here,
because you know, we can't lie like that's not gonna
happen overnight for anyone like You've you got to learn
that history, you got to understand, you got to see
those guys and have those conversations. So I'm just curious
(37:41):
what that process was like for you as a young
guy coming into the league.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Man, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You know, I was on the outside looking at, you know,
with Boston culture and what Boston tradition was all about,
because I didn't really follow it back closings. I did
the Lakers, Yeah, but for it hit right away, and
you know when it hit when I first got there
and I had my first conversation, like you know, I
was talking Red r back, like one of my first
weeks there. I was like, whoa, hold all, this is
(38:09):
the dude I see on the NBA highlights smoking a
cigar celebrate eleven twelve championships. This is really him right here,
you know, now having a conversation and you smoking cigar
with him. No, no, I was sitting there and this
is when I first met him. Yeah, you know, he
was having this golf charity tournament and this was like,
(38:33):
this is like after the season or before the season,
one or the other, but this is like one of
my I think my second year because we're in a lockout,
so maybe my second year. And it was just like, man,
there go. You know, I'm just sitting down really talking
to him, and he sat there and I remember we
sat on the couch and I think we might have
talked for again thirty minutes. I was like, man, he
really paying attention. He really he really sees something in me,
(38:57):
you know. And it was just like from that point on,
I was like, man, man, oh man, I gotta appreciate this.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I get to be around so many legends and looking
up every day. It's just it just caught off. I
probably have to say my second third year, I was
I was head first o then.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So it took a couple of years for you to
like get to that point.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yeah, definitely, a couple of years of being around the
legends and being and getting lost in the city through
the rotaries. You know, I had to and I.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Do that every day. It took a while for that
for me to get used to that.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
But uh, yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Was like after man, my second or third year, I
was all in.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
And then yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Me after my first year, I spent the whole summer
in Boston, and then the next year I spent another
summer in there. So I was there just just eating
it all up, getting used to the city, getting out
of the community. You know, I already spent a lot
of time at home my first couple of years.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That was a conscious decision or was that like did
the team ask you to do that?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
On a team that asked me?
Speaker 6 (39:58):
I just wanted to be in a gym.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
That was the only I can get the gym twenty
four to seven and three sticks every night, and so
it was just like me and my best friend come
out like, look we can go We'll go to the
gym in the Morgan But I had twenty four hour
access to the gym, and we'll going to gym and
lay at night. You know, it'd be tires where I'm
going there. Rick Patino was in there ten o'clock. He'll
see me in there, you know, me and my me
and my boy working out.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
That's awesome, man, those are great memories. So we touched
on having the legends around. But then there's also the
element of you're coming on to a team early in
your career when there's other guys who have already gone
through it. They've already had those few seasons with the Celtics,
They've already integrated themselves into the culture. And we're talking
(40:41):
about guys like Kenny Anderson Antoine had been here for
a couple of seasons when you came in. What's the
process that you experienced as a young guy of like
them showing you what it means to be a Celtic.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Well, yeah, I'm definitely watching and I'm asking questions. I'm
just seeing everybody's habits. You know, when you first get there,
you know, you take a look around and you see,
you know, yeah, you got these other ten, twelve, thirteen
guys on the team. But you look and you're like, man,
who best fits where I'm trying to go? You know,
who habits am I trying to follow, you know, on
(41:19):
the court, off the court? And you look around and
be like, all right, I'm gonna get under this best
wing cause I like, you know, what he's doing. I
likes what he's teaching me. You know, he's really making sense,
showing me the ropes, you know. So you know, early
on it was like Twad Danga bell Rows, you know,
was real close.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
He will.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
So I took all like two or three guys where man,
Danny gonna be here. Gain, I'm gonna get shot up
with dang man, he can shoot me. And I'm gonna
get here early. You know, I'm gonna work on some
posts with Twad. He's like, man, you need to get here.
And I was always made an emphasis to work under
them guys, just to kind of see the routine and
learn a routine. And once I figured out what my
routine was gonna be, and that took a few years,
(41:59):
you know, because these guys are established pros. You look
at guys like Kenny Anderson who've been in the league,
you know, and you look at the guys who had
that longevities who like Damon and Kenny. Yeah, yeah, we
had twa but he was still learning too as he
was gone because ear year, and so I was looking
at those guys who had a little bit more time
in the league and just kind of see, you know,
they they've been here for a little while, so I'm
(42:21):
gonna watch them a little more close and they they.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Figure it out.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So that is it for season three of you from
the rafters. We are so appreciative of every single one
of you who gave us a listen or a watch.
We took this thing to YouTube this year. We hope
you enjoyed that. So for Abby Chin, for Sean Grandy,
for our producer John Picard, thank you so much. We
can't wait to see you for season four next season.
And in the meantime, let's.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Go get that banner. See you later, everyone,
Host
Marc D'Amico
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