March 2, 2025 • 9 mins
Briefing Document: "Finding Meaning: What Viktor Frankl Taught Me About Self-Worth"
Source: Excerpts from "Frankle-Selfworth.pdf," a piece by Teru Nakashima reflecting on the impact of Viktor Frankl's work on their understanding of self-worth and resilience.
Main Theme: The document argues that self-worth is not fixed by past experiences, but rather can be reclaimed and significantly improved through a shift in mindset and the active pursuit of meaning, even in the face of immense suffering. It draws heavily on the philosophy of Viktor Frankl, particularly his experiences in Nazi concentration camps, to illustrate this point.
Key Ideas and Facts:
- The Author's Personal Connection: Teru Nakashima shares their personal experience of overcoming abandonment and isolation by discovering Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning." This personal narrative establishes the credibility and relatability of the message.
- Rejection of Deterministic Views of Self-Worth: The author directly challenges the notion that childhood experiences rigidly determine self-esteem: "Your self-esteem is fixed by how you were raised," they insist. But as you listen to my words now, let this truth sink deeply into your consciousness: this is absolutely false." They emphasize that reclaiming self-worth is always possible.
- Viktor Frankl's Example: Frankl's experiences in concentration camps serve as a powerful example of finding meaning in unimaginable suffering. Despite facing horrific conditions, Frankl maintained hope by focusing on his purpose: publishing his work.
- Importance of Purpose and Meaning: The core argument is that finding a purpose, even in the direst circumstances, provides a reason to live and preserves dignity. The parable of the two stonecutters illustrates this: one sees a meaningless task ("I'm cutting stones. Day after day, just cutting stones."), while the other sees a grand, meaningful project ("I'm building a cathedral that will stand for a thousand years.").
- Mindset as a Choice: The author emphasizes that meaning is not derived from external factors, but rather from the conscious choice of perspective: "The meaning we find doesn't come from external circumstances... but from the perspective we choose to adopt... moment by moment... choice by choice."
- Practical Exercises for Cultivating Meaning: Nakashima presents three practical exercises used with a client named Yuki to cultivate meaning and self-worth:
- Meaning Journal: Recording one meaningful moment each day before sleep to shift awareness towards positive experiences.
- Purpose Card: Defining a personal "gift" to offer the world ("If I survive this pain, what gift might I leave to the world?") to provide a guiding star.
- Perspective Shifting: Reinterpreting painful past events to find lessons and strengths gained from them, reframing challenges.
- Transformation Through Meaning: The story of Yuki demonstrates how actively finding meaning can transform past suffering into a source of power and purpose, enabling one to help others.
- The Freedom to Choose: The document concludes with Frankl's famous quote: "Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms – to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances, to choose one's own way." This encapsulates the central theme of the briefing.
Implications:
The information suggests that regardless of past trauma or difficult circumstances, individuals have the agency to shape their sense of self-worth a
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, welcome back.
Today we're going deep on thisidea of meaning and self-worth.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, we'll be looking at it through Victor
Frankl's work and how one of hisstudents Teru Nakashima.
Yeah, teru Nakashima.
Thanks, used it to help peopleovercome challenges.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's really cool is that Nakashima tackles this
belief that a lot of people havethat.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Our childhood determines everything.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, like your self-worth is set by your
childhood experiences.
He's like nope, not true.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It can feel pretty limiting when you hear that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Like, your childhood shapes your whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Exactly.
And Nakashima, he says it'smore about your mindset and
finding meaning.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Than what happened when you were a kid.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
More than those circumstances, for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So Viktor Frankl Right.
Most people know him because hesurvived the Nazi concentration
camps.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
During World War II.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
yeah, but there's a lot more to him than just that.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Absolutely.
He was a psychiatrist beforethe war and oh wow.
Yeah, the camps really changedhis thinking.
But it's amazing that even inthat suffering he never lost
hope.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
How is that even possible?
I that even in that sufferinghe never lost hope.
How is that even possible?
I mean, those camps were brutal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was his sense of purpose.
He had this drive to survive sohe could publish his work and
share his insights.
It was like his reason to live.
You know?
Wow, Kind of reminds me of thatstory about the two stone
cutters.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I love that analogy.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So you have these two guys working side by side,
grueling work, cutting stones,day after day, hard work, and
someone comes up and asks whatare you doing?
One guy's like ugh, justcutting these stones.
The other guy, the other guylooks up all proud and says I'm
building a cathedral.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's such a powerful image.
Yeah, same work, but Totallydifferent meaning.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Exactly, and that's Frankl's big idea we always have
the power to choose ourattitude and find meaning.
It's not about what happened,it's how we react to it.
How we see it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So how does Teru Nakashima use Frankl's ideas?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, he took those ideas and made practical tools
for his clients.
One story he tells is aboutthis client.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh, tell me about it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Her name is Yuki and she had a really rough childhood
.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, lots of trauma, but she didn't let it Define
her.
Exactly, and it wasn't aboutignoring the pain.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was about finding meaning in it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right and using that to move forward.
Nakashima helped her with threespecific things A meaning
journal, the purpose card andthis thing he calls perspective
shifting.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, now I'm really interested.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let's hear more about each of those, Starting with
the meaning journal.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's simple but powerful.
He had Yuki write down onething from each day, even small
things where she felt a sense ofmeaning.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Like, what kinds of things?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A sunset, someone being nice to her, a moment with
a loved one.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So it's about noticing those little good
things.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, and by writing it down, yuki shifted her focus
from the negative to thepositive.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Training yourself to see the good Exactly.
What about the purpose card?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So with this one he asked Yuki to think about if I
survive this pain, what can Igive to the world Deep Right?
She wrote her answer on a cardand tipped it with her.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So it's like a reminder of her bigger purpose.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Exactly.
At first she had a hard timewith it, but she eventually
thought if someone who wentthrough what I did finds hope
through me, oh, wow.
That became what guided her.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So powerful Even in tough times, there's still hope
and purpose.
It reminds me of somethingFrankl wrote.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He said that searching for meaning is the
main thing that motivates us.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He said it's not just some side thing, yeah, not some
secondary rationalization.
He really believed that meaningis something you have to
actively look for.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, so we talked about the meaning journal and
the purpose card.
Now what about this perspectiveshifting thing?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This is where it gets interesting.
It's about looking at the badthings that happened and asking
what did this teach me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So instead of just pain, it becomes wisdom.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, exactly so.
Yuki started to see her past asa source of strength.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's not about pretending it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's not about pretending it didn't happen.
No, it's about changing how yousee it Right.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like Yuki couldn't change that her parents
abandoned her, but she couldfind new meaning in it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm seeing how these three things work together.
The meaning journal helps youfind the good things now, the
purpose card gives you directionfor the future and perspective
shifting helps you deal with thepast.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You got it and the best part is you can use these
for anything, big or small.
It's not just for trauma, it'sfor finding meaning in all parts
of your life.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So did Yuki see results right away when she
started using these things.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was a process for sure.
Nakashima says there's no quickfix for this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But slowly Yuki started to change.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
How could you tell?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, she started talking about her past
differently.
She wasn't just focused on thepain oh interesting.
She started to see how thoseexperiences made her strong.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That perspective shifting in action.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Right, she was learning from the tough time and
with the meaning journal andpurpose card yeah, those helped
her see herself as someone whocould help others wow.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So she went from feeling defined by her past to
taking control of it yeah, it'snot erasing the past right but
it's like finding a way to beokay with it that's it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Frankel talked about this the will to meaning right.
It's not about avoidingsuffering, it's about finding
the meaning in it.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So how did this change Yuki's life?
Did she just feel better or didthings actually change?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Both, actually, as her self-worth grew.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
She got more confident, more assertive, she
took more risks, tried thingsshe was scared of before, like
Confident, more assertive.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
She took more risks, tried things she was scared of
before, like she was finallyfree to be herself.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, and the purpose card reminded her that she had
something to offer the world.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Regardless of her past, yeah, that purpose gave
her strength.
It's like that saying whatdoesn't kill you makes you
stronger.
But it's more than that.
It's about using thoseexperiences to make a difference
.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, and Yuki ended up helping others who went
through similar things.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ripple effect of healing.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right.
When you heal, you can helpothers heal too.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think that's so important to remember Finding
meaning and self-worth.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's not just about us.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's about the impact we have on the world.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Totally.
It makes you think about how wealways look for meaning in the
big things, but maybe it's inthe little things, the everyday
moments.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Being kind to someone , making connections.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, and that's where the Meaning Journal is so
helpful.
It trains you to see thosesmall moments of meaning.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
For our listeners who are struggling.
How can they start using thesetools?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
First you've got to believe that meaning is out
there, even when things aretough.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It might take some searching.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
There's that quote.
The meaning of life is to findyour gift.
The purpose of life is to giveit away.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Love.
That that's what we're talkingabout here.
We all have gifts and usingthem to make the world a better
place.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's how we find meaning and fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And build self-worth too.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's not about money or success.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's about finding our place and making a
difference exactly we createmeaning from our experiences yes
, and that's where frankl'slogotherapy comes in.
Logotherapy, yeah, it's, uh, akind of therapy focused on
finding meaning even when you'regoing through tough stuff so,
instead of just trying to fixproblems, it helps you find
purpose.
Right, it helps you see beyondthose problems, which is what
(07:20):
we've been talking about, right.
Yeah, whether it's traumasetbacks, even just daily
struggles, logotherapy gives youa way to find meaning and keep
going.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's not just about getting by.
No, it's about, like, trulyliving a good life even when
it's hard.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Frankel believed that we all have this drive to find
meaning and that it can make usstronger.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like Yuki, she went from being hurt by her past to
helping others overcome theirs.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's amazing those practices Nakashima uses, based
on Frankel's work.
They really helped her changeher perspective, find meaning
and connect with a biggerpurpose.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So for our listeners who are feeling lost, how can
they start finding meaning andbuilding self-worth?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
First you got to be open to the idea that meaning is
there.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Even when things are tough.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, it might be hidden, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like that quote.
The meaning of life is to findyour gift.
The purpose of life is to giveit away.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh, I like that.
That's what we're talking aboutUsing our gifts to make a
difference.
That's how we find fulfillmentand build self-worth.
It's not about Suck it off.
Yeah, not about stuff, money orjust being successful.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's about making a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's about finding your place and using your gifts
to help others.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
To wrap up, I want to share a quote from Frankl.
He said Between stimulus andresponse there is a space.
In that space is our power tochoose our response.
In our response lies our growthand our freedom.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's a reminder that we always have a choice.
We can choose how we see thingsand how we react.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's how we grow.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's been great talking about this venue.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Me too, and to our listeners keep looking for that
meaning.
Keep believing in yourselvesand remember you're not alone in
this.
Till next time, take.
Hey everyone, welcome back.
Today we're going deep on thisidea of meaning and self-worth.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Yeah, we'll be looking at it through Victor
Frankl's work and how one of hisstudents Teru Nakashima.
Yeah, teru Nakashima.
Thanks, used it to help peopleovercome challenges.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's really cool is that Nakashima tackles this
belief that a lot of people havethat.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Our childhood determines everything.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, like your self-worth is set by your
childhood experiences.
He's like nope, not true.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It can feel pretty limiting when you hear that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Like, your childhood shapes your whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Exactly.
And Nakashima, he says it'smore about your mindset and
finding meaning.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Than what happened when you were a kid.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
More than those circumstances, for sure.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So Viktor Frankl Right.
Most people know him because hesurvived the Nazi concentration
camps.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
During World War II.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
yeah, but there's a lot more to him than just that.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Absolutely.
He was a psychiatrist beforethe war and oh wow.
Yeah, the camps really changedhis thinking.
But it's amazing that even inthat suffering he never lost
hope.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
How is that even possible?
I that even in that sufferinghe never lost hope.
How is that even possible?
I mean, those camps were brutal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was his sense of purpose.
He had this drive to survive sohe could publish his work and
share his insights.
It was like his reason to live.
You know?
Wow, Kind of reminds me of thatstory about the two stone
cutters.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh, I love that analogy.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So you have these two guys working side by side,
grueling work, cutting stones,day after day, hard work, and
someone comes up and asks whatare you doing?
One guy's like ugh, justcutting these stones.
The other guy, the other guylooks up all proud and says I'm
building a cathedral.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
It's such a powerful image.
Yeah, same work, but Totallydifferent meaning.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Exactly, and that's Frankl's big idea we always have
the power to choose ourattitude and find meaning.
It's not about what happened,it's how we react to it.
How we see it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So how does Teru Nakashima use Frankl's ideas?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, he took those ideas and made practical tools
for his clients.
One story he tells is aboutthis client.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Oh, tell me about it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Her name is Yuki and she had a really rough childhood
.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, lots of trauma, but she didn't let it Define
her.
Exactly, and it wasn't aboutignoring the pain.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It was about finding meaning in it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Right and using that to move forward.
Nakashima helped her with threespecific things A meaning
journal, the purpose card andthis thing he calls perspective
shifting.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, now I'm really interested.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Let's hear more about each of those, Starting with
the meaning journal.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's simple but powerful.
He had Yuki write down onething from each day, even small
things where she felt a sense ofmeaning.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Like, what kinds of things?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
A sunset, someone being nice to her, a moment with
a loved one.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So it's about noticing those little good
things.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, and by writing it down, yuki shifted her focus
from the negative to thepositive.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Training yourself to see the good Exactly.
What about the purpose card?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So with this one he asked Yuki to think about if I
survive this pain, what can Igive to the world Deep Right?
She wrote her answer on a cardand tipped it with her.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So it's like a reminder of her bigger purpose.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Exactly.
At first she had a hard timewith it, but she eventually
thought if someone who wentthrough what I did finds hope
through me, oh, wow.
That became what guided her.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So powerful Even in tough times, there's still hope
and purpose.
It reminds me of somethingFrankl wrote.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
He said that searching for meaning is the
main thing that motivates us.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
He said it's not just some side thing, yeah, not some
secondary rationalization.
He really believed that meaningis something you have to
actively look for.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, so we talked about the meaning journal and
the purpose card.
Now what about this perspectiveshifting thing?
How does that work?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
This is where it gets interesting.
It's about looking at the badthings that happened and asking
what did this teach me?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So instead of just pain, it becomes wisdom.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, exactly so.
Yuki started to see her past asa source of strength.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's not about pretending it didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
It's not about pretending it didn't happen.
No, it's about changing how yousee it Right.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Like Yuki couldn't change that her parents
abandoned her, but she couldfind new meaning in it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'm seeing how these three things work together.
The meaning journal helps youfind the good things now, the
purpose card gives you directionfor the future and perspective
shifting helps you deal with thepast.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You got it and the best part is you can use these
for anything, big or small.
It's not just for trauma, it'sfor finding meaning in all parts
of your life.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
So did Yuki see results right away when she
started using these things.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It was a process for sure.
Nakashima says there's no quickfix for this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
But slowly Yuki started to change.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
How could you tell?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, she started talking about her past
differently.
She wasn't just focused on thepain oh interesting.
She started to see how thoseexperiences made her strong.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That perspective shifting in action.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Right, she was learning from the tough time and
with the meaning journal andpurpose card yeah, those helped
her see herself as someone whocould help others wow.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So she went from feeling defined by her past to
taking control of it yeah, it'snot erasing the past right but
it's like finding a way to beokay with it that's it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Frankel talked about this the will to meaning right.
It's not about avoidingsuffering, it's about finding
the meaning in it.
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So how did this change Yuki's life?
Did she just feel better or didthings actually change?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Both, actually, as her self-worth grew.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
She got more confident, more assertive, she
took more risks, tried thingsshe was scared of before, like
Confident, more assertive.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
She took more risks, tried things she was scared of
before, like she was finallyfree to be herself.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, and the purpose card reminded her that she had
something to offer the world.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Regardless of her past, yeah, that purpose gave
her strength.
It's like that saying whatdoesn't kill you makes you
stronger.
But it's more than that.
It's about using thoseexperiences to make a difference
.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, and Yuki ended up helping others who went
through similar things.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ripple effect of healing.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right.
When you heal, you can helpothers heal too.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I think that's so important to remember Finding
meaning and self-worth.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It's not just about us.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's about the impact we have on the world.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Totally.
It makes you think about how wealways look for meaning in the
big things, but maybe it's inthe little things, the everyday
moments.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Being kind to someone , making connections.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Right, and that's where the Meaning Journal is so
helpful.
It trains you to see thosesmall moments of meaning.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
For our listeners who are struggling.
How can they start using thesetools?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
First you've got to believe that meaning is out
there, even when things aretough.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It might take some searching.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
There's that quote.
The meaning of life is to findyour gift.
The purpose of life is to giveit away.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Love.
That that's what we're talkingabout here.
We all have gifts and usingthem to make the world a better
place.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's how we find meaning and fulfillment.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And build self-worth too.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's not about money or success.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's about finding our place and making a
difference exactly we createmeaning from our experiences yes
, and that's where frankl'slogotherapy comes in.
Logotherapy, yeah, it's, uh, akind of therapy focused on
finding meaning even when you'regoing through tough stuff so,
instead of just trying to fixproblems, it helps you find
purpose.
Right, it helps you see beyondthose problems, which is what
(07:20):
we've been talking about, right.
Yeah, whether it's traumasetbacks, even just daily
struggles, logotherapy gives youa way to find meaning and keep
going.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's not just about getting by.
No, it's about, like, trulyliving a good life even when
it's hard.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Frankel believed that we all have this drive to find
meaning and that it can make usstronger.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Like Yuki, she went from being hurt by her past to
helping others overcome theirs.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It's amazing those practices Nakashima uses, based
on Frankel's work.
They really helped her changeher perspective, find meaning
and connect with a biggerpurpose.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So for our listeners who are feeling lost, how can
they start finding meaning andbuilding self-worth?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
First you got to be open to the idea that meaning is
there.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Even when things are tough.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, it might be hidden, but it's there.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like that quote.
The meaning of life is to findyour gift.
The purpose of life is to giveit away.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Oh, I like that.
That's what we're talking aboutUsing our gifts to make a
difference.
That's how we find fulfillmentand build self-worth.
It's not about Suck it off.
Yeah, not about stuff, money orjust being successful.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's about making a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It's about finding your place and using your gifts
to help others.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
To wrap up, I want to share a quote from Frankl.
He said Between stimulus andresponse there is a space.
In that space is our power tochoose our response.
In our response lies our growthand our freedom.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's a reminder that we always have a choice.
We can choose how we see thingsand how we react.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's how we grow.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's been great talking about this venue.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Me too, and to our listeners keep looking for that
meaning.
Keep believing in yourselvesand remember you're not alone in
this.
Till next time, take.
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