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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, Welcome
back, Ready for another deep
dive?
Today we're tackling motivation.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Ooh, motivation.
Who doesn't need a bit more ofthat sometimes?
But we're going deep right, Notjust like those cheesy
motivational posters.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Right, we're going to
look at how coaches especially
inspire athletes during thosesuper clutch moments.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
So when the game's on
the line, the pressure is on.
How do they find that extragear?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Exactly, We've got
this amazing source a talk by a
coach named Taro Nakashima.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Taro Nakashima.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, he breaks his
approach down into, like these,
six aspects of self-affirmation,which is fancy for saying he's
got a framework for addressingwell different levels of
thinking and action to helppeople overcome challenges.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So like a blueprint
for building mental toughness,
not just for athletes but anyonereally.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's the cool part.
It's totally applicable to allof us.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
All right.
So imagine this Championshipgame.
Clock is ticking down, thetension you can cut it with a
knife.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Oh, I can feel it
already.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
That's where Coach
Nakashima starts his talk, like
he embraces the intensity of themoment.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Doesn't shy away from
it at all.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
So how does he frame
it for the team?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, first he
tackles the elephant in the room
.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Okay, the obvious
stuff, the pressure.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The score, the crazy
crowd, even like the sun in
their eyes.
All that external stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, stuff you can't
control.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But he does this
brilliant thing he acknowledges
those factors but he doesn't letthem define the team's worth.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's like separating
the person from the
circumstances.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yes, yeah, there is
this one line that gives me
chills every time he says, yes,the sun is in our eyes, but none
of that defines who we are.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Ooh, that's good.
It's so true, right?
How often do we let outsidestuff dictate how we feel about
ourselves?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
All the time.
A bad meeting, a traffic jam itcan totally ruin your whole
mood.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Totally Nakashima's
reminding us we're bigger than
that.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
But how do you
actually show that to a team you
know?
Words only go so far.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's where
nonverbal communication comes in
.
The way a coach carriesthemselves, their tone, their
eye contact, it all speaksvolumes.
It's like that silent.
I believe in you messageexactly.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It can make or break
a team spirit.
Okay, so we've got theenvironment and the coaches
unwavering belief in the team'sworth.
What's the next layer inNakashima's framework?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
he digs into behavior
, the what to do, and this is
interesting he kind of flips thescript on the whole demand
perfection approach.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh yeah, that old
school mentality.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Instead he pushes forself-acceptance, even when
mistakes happen.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So it's not about
ignoring mistakes altogether.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Not at all.
It's about acknowledging them,learning and moving on Makes
sense.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Dwelling on mistakes
doesn't help anyone.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Nope, nakashima gives
this example.
He says Johnson missed threeshots earlier and that's okay.
Now we'll execute play numberfour.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So he's not letting
the missed shots define
Johnson's performance.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Exactly, it's about
focusing on the next play, the
next opportunity.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But how do you walk
that line between accepting
mistakes and still pushing forimprovement?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's all in the
delivery.
A good coach uses nonverbalcues like demonstrating the play
with confidence, giving areassuring pat on the back.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Showing them the way
forward.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Exactly, it's that
balance of acceptance and
guidance.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
We could all use a
bit of that in our own lives.
Right, Be kinder to ourselveswhen we mess up.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Totally.
It's progress over perfection,right.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So we've got
environment, we've got behavior.
What's next?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Now it's about
tapping into capability and
self-efficacy, that unshakablebelief in your ability to
succeed.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's more than just
confidence, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, confidence is
important, but self-efficacy is
more specific.
It's about believing you canexecute a particular skill.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like I know I can hit
this free throw or I can nail
this presentation.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Exactly, and a good
coach knows how to trigger that
feeling.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
How do they do that?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Nakashima talks about
reminding players of specific
skills they've mastered.
Like Williams, remember thatdefensive technique we practiced
.
Your quick hands are what weneed right now.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It's like they're
activating that muscle memory.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Totally.
They're triggering those.
I've got this feelings andagain, nonverbal cues play a
huge role.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Like mirroring the
player's skills, showing them
they believe in those abilities.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
It's subtle but super
effective.
It's about more than justsaying you got this.
It's about showing them they do.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Okay, so we've gone
from acknowledging the
environment to taking action, totapping into capabilities.
This is already a whole new wayof thinking about motivation.
Where does Coach Nakashima takeus next?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
He goes deeper,
beyond just individual skills
and actions, to the realm ofbeliefs and values.
This is where a team's identityreally shines through.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
I love that.
It's about more than just thescoreboard.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Exactly it's about
playing the game with integrity,
living up to your values.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Like playing fair,
supporting your teammates,
things like that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Exactly.
Nakashima gives this example.
He says we believe in defensiveintegrity above all else.
This team has overcome greaterchallenges because we trust our
training and each other.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
It's about
remembering what they stand for,
even when things get tough.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Exactly.
It's about tapping into thosecore values that give them
strength and resilience.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Powerful stuff, but
how do you communicate that
non-verbally?
Does the coach just startlisting their values on a
whiteboard?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
No, it's much more
subtle.
It's in the way they interactwith the team, the little
gestures, the energy they bring,like placing a hand over their
heart when talking about theirshared belief, or bringing the
team into a tight huddle,physically representing that
unity.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Showing them, not
just telling them.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Exactly.
Nonverbal cues add anotherlayer of meaning.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, so far we've
got environment, behavior,
capability, and now beliefs andvalues.
This framework is amazing.
What's next?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now we're getting
into the really deep stuff
identity and self-determination.
This is about who we are at ourcore and the choices that shape
that identity.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Oh, this is getting
philosophical.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It is Because,
ultimately, motivation comes
from within.
It's about owning your choices,defining yourself through
actions.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Like having the world
define you.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
So how does Coach
Nakashima bring this to the team
?
How does he address this ideaof self-determination?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Imagine him saying
something like you are champions
, regardless of tonight'soutcome, you've chosen this path
.
You've determined to giveeverything.
That choice defines you morethan any trophy ever could.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Wow, that's deep.
He's talking about winning inlife, not just the game.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Right, he's reminding
them that their identity isn't
tied to the scoreboard.
It's tied to their dedication,their perseverance.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It's about those
internal qualities.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Exactly.
And those nonverbal cues wetalked about.
They become even more importanthere.
The way the coach stands, theirtone, their conviction, it all
reinforces that message ofself-determination.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
So it's not just the
words, it's the whole package.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Exactly.
It's about embodying thatbelief in the team's inherent
worth and potential.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay, before we go
any further, I got to ask what
does this make you think about?
What choices are you makingthat are shaping your identity?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Ooh, that's a good
one.
It really makes you stop andthink.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Right, it's a
powerful question.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It is.
We're constantly making choices, and they all add up to who we
become.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This is getting deep
and I'm loving it, but we're not
done yet, are we?
There's one more level toexplore in Coach Nakashima's
framework.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There is, and it
might surprise you.
The final level is spirituality.
Spirituality In a sportscontext.
I gotta admit I wasn'texpecting that.
It might seem a bit out there,but he elevates motivation to a
higher level, connecting it to asense of purpose beyond the
immediate game.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So it's not just
about winning or losing, it's
about something bigger.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Exactly.
It's about connecting to asense of meaning and purpose
that goes beyond the scoreboard.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Like how their
actions might inspire others.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Yes, he talks about
how the players' actions might
inspire young kids watching thegame, how their perseverance and
teamwork can have a rippleeffect.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It's about
recognizing that our actions
have a larger impact, even whenwe don't realize it.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Exactly.
It's about tapping intosomething bigger than ourselves,
finding meaning beyond ourindividual goals.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But how do you
communicate that sense of
spirituality non-verbally?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Hmm, that's a good
question.
It's subtle, but think about it.
Maybe the coach looks upward,gesturing towards the stands, or
places a hand on a player'sshoulder, conveying a sense of
connection and shared purpose.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's like they're
linking the team's efforts to
something larger than themselves.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Exactly, and that
connection can be incredibly
motivating.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Okay, so we've
explored all six levels of Coach
Nakashima's framework, from theenvironment to spirituality.
This is incredible.
It really is I feel like we'vejust scratched the surface of a
whole new world of motivationalstrategies.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Absolutely, and
what's amazing is that these
principles apply to all of us,not just athletes.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I can't wait to dive
into that more.
But first let's all just take amoment to let all of this sink
in.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, there's a lot
to unpack here.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
All right.
So we just explored CoachNakashima's six aspects of
self-affirmation.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I'm still thinking
about that whole spirituality
level Really makes you think huh, it does, but what's cool is
how these levels all worktogether, like they build on
each other.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, Like it's not
enough to just say focus on your
behavior.
You got to address theenvironment, your beliefs, all
of it.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It's a holistic
approach, right.
It's about understanding thewhole person.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But I bet our
listeners are thinking, okay,
this is all great in theory buthow do I actually use this stuff
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
How do we take these
ideas from the locker room to
like real life?
Well, let's start with theenvironment.
Remember how Coach Nakashimasays to acknowledge it, but not
let it define you.
The sun is in our eyes, butyeah, but that doesn't define
who we are.
We can use that same idea inany tough situation.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
So, like say, I'm
facing a crazy deadline at work,
it's easy to freak out, right.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh, absolutely.
But instead of getting lost inthe stress, take a step back.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, breathe.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and remind
yourself this deadline is
intense, but it doesn't changewho I am or what I'm capable of.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So it's like
separating the facts from the
feelings.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yes, the deadline is
a fact.
The feeling of panic, that'sseparate.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And that feeling
doesn't have to control me.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Exactly.
You can choose how to respond.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Okay, that makes
sense.
So acknowledge the environment,but don't let it define you
what's next?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Then we look at
behavior.
Remember self-acceptance andde-specific actions.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
So if I'm working on
that project and I make a
mistake, I don't just go.
Oh, everyone makes mistakes.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, no, it's not
about lowering your standards.
It's about recognizing thatmistakes happen, especially when
we're pushing ourselves.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Got to learn from
them, right.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yes, Analyze what
went wrong.
Figure out how to avoid it nexttime.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So instead of beating
myself up, I can be more
constructive about it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Exactly, and it
applies to how we talk to
ourselves too.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Like, instead of that
inner voice screaming you're so
stupid, I can be more like okay, that didn't work.
What can I learn from this?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yes, be your own
coach.
Offer yourself the same supportyou'd give a friend.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
This is seriously
making me rethink my self-talk.
Okay, so environment behaviorwhere do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Time to tap into that
capability and self-efficacy we
talked about.
It's about believing you canactually do the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So back to that
deadline.
If I'm feeling overwhelmed bythe task, how do I boost my
self-efficacy?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
One way is to
remember past successes.
Think about times you facedsimilar challenges and rocked it
.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Like remember that
presentation you nailed.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, Remind yourself
that you've got the skills.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You've done it before
it's like a highlight reel of
your own awesomeness.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Exactly.
And don't forget visualization.
Picture yourself successfullycompleting the project, feeling
calm and in control.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So it's not just
about remembering the past, it's
about envisioning the future.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, combining those
two things can be super
powerful for motivation.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Okay, this is all
making so much sense, but what
about those deeper levels?
How?
Speaker 2 (12:01):
do we tap into our
beliefs and values when things
get tough.
This is where we connect to ourcore principles, like what
truly matters to you, what areyou willing to stand up for,
even when it's hard.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
For me, it's about
integrity, being authentic,
making a positive impact.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Beautiful, and when
you're facing a challenge,
remember those values.
Ask yourself how can I approachthis in a way that aligns with
who I am?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
It's about staying
true to yourself, even under
pressure.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yes, when your
actions match your values, you
tap into a deeper motivation.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Okay, this is
powerful stuff.
We've talked about environment,behavior, capability, beliefs
and values.
What about that identity piece?
How do we apply that ineveryday life?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
This is where
self-determination comes in.
Remember, we get to choose whowe want to be, how we show up in
the world.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
We're not just
reacting, we're creating our own
story.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I love that and it's
so true.
Every choice shapes who webecome.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So it's not about
controlling everything that
happens to us.
It's about controlling how werespond.
Exactly, and that sense ofchoice.
That's where our power lies.
Okay, okay, I'm ready for thefinal level.
How do we bring spiritualityinto our everyday lives?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
it still feels a bit
abstract to me remember how
coach Nakashima talked aboutconnecting to something larger
than ourselves yeah we can dothat by finding meaning in our
work, our relationships, ourcontributions to the world so
it's about finding our purpose,the thing that gets us out of
bed in the morning.
Exactly, it could be a passionfor a cause, a commitment to
helping others, whatever lightsyou up.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And that purpose
fuels our motivation, gives us
direction.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It's like having a
compass that guides us through
tough times.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You know I was a bit
skeptical about the whole
spirituality thing at first, butnow I'm starting to see how it
fits in.
It's about finding that deepermeaning that sense of purpose
that makes our actions matter.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's like aligning
our actions with our values, our
beliefs, our truest selves, andwhen we do that, we unlock a
level of motivation that's notjust about achieving goals.
It's about living a fulfillinglife.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Wow, we've really
gone deep on this deep dive from
pep talks to like the meaningof life.
Who knew motivation was socomplex?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
It's a lot more than
just you know go get them.
It's about understanding thoselayers of ourselves and how they
all connect.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
For me, the biggest
takeaway is that idea of
self-determination.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
That we have the
power to choose, no matter what.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Right.
It reminds me of that ViktorFrankl quote Everything can be
taken from a man, but one thingthe last of human freedoms to
choose one's attitude in anygiven set of circumstances.
Powerful stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
So powerful.
It means, even when things feeltotally out of control, we
still have a choice in how werespond.
And that's where our truefreedom lies, and that freedom
is the foundation of like realmotivation.
Right?
It's not about relying onexternal rewards.
It's about choosing to act inalignment with our values and
goals.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Absolutely.
It's about that internal drive.
It's about being proactive, notjust reactive.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
It's like that,
saying grant me the serenity to
accept the things I cannotchange, the courage to change
the things I can, and the wisdomto know the difference.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Perfect courage to
change the things I can, and the
wisdom to know the difference.
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
So, as we wrap up
this deep dive.
What's the key takeaway youhope our listeners walk away
with Good question.
I think it's that motivationisn't something we find out
there in the world.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's not something
someone just gives you right.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
No, it's something we
cultivate within ourselves.
It's about self-awareness, it'sabout action and, ultimately,
it's about connecting to thatdeeper sense of purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's about living a
life that feels truly meaningful
.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Couldn't have said it
better myself.
So, to everyone listening,think about those six aspects of
self-affirmation we exploredtoday.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Which one speaks to
you right now.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Where could you focus
your energy to unlock that next
level of motivation?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And remember you have
the power to choose, to create,
to live a life that feels trulymotivated from the inside out.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That's it for this
deep dive.
Thanks for joining us.