November 22, 2024 • 61 mins
Our guest, Jace Vek, is a truly amazing individual; talented in every way as well as an advocate for the LGBTQIA+. Edith the Producer and Michael LeBlanc discuss today's political effects and Jace Vek gives his raucous perspective.
Summary:
The conversation explores personal journeys of identity, community, and societal challenges, particularly regarding empathy, politics, and systemic issues. The speakers share their experiences in the military, the importance of authenticity in art, and the need for generational change in politics. They emphasize the significance of building better communities and fostering understanding among diverse groups.
- "This is life."
- "Failure is failure to try."
- "This is a bad moment."
Chapters
00:00The Importance of Vigilance and Healing
14:58Self-Defense and Situational Awareness
15:50Cognitive Dissonance in Society
22:45Fear and Change in Politics
27:09Military Life and Financial Realities
30:21Government and Local Governance
32:04Empathy and the Human Experience
37:44The Political Landscape and Fear Culture
38:55Generational Perspectives on Politics
40:57Creativity and Community Building
43:33Personal Growth and Overcoming Adversity
47:33Finding Authenticity and Voice
50:17Empathy and Connection with Youth
51:58Artistry, Authenticity, and Community Dynamics
57:23The Essence of Coffee Culture
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Stay and drink your brew, but spill your tea
You might be the asshole, or a store tell like me
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Voices rise and fall, like rivers in a dream
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From heartbreaks to triumphs, sales on full
Speak your truth, let your courage be bold
Stay alive, let your heart unwind
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Whether you're the robot, say so tall
In the warmth of coffee there's room
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One, two, three, hi there!
It's Edith Ivey Rosenblatt, a bisexual coffee
It's only seven dollars
I'm sorry I can't do it
That's okay, we have stock
Bisexual coffee, it's only seven dollars
It won't break the bank
Uh, voice of you now that I'm just gonna throw into every new episode
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Okay, we'll just use that
Good, the only thing we need now is music
I wish to God we knew a musician who could just make some riff for us or something
I- didn't we just- hey, Jace, what are you doing brother?
Hi buddy!
This is a great said word
Yeah brother, right is the song!
I can't believe how smooth that was
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Thank you, thank you
I-sexual coffee
Yes baby!
Here we go
Cut, clip, alright
Jace, that's all we need man
Thank you so much for coming out to now
Ah, yeah, yeah, so it was a great show
Peace!
Hey, Jace, my friend, I would like you if you would
please let our listeners know who you are
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Hey, okay, alright
Well, I'm Jace Beck, I'm 52 years old
I grew up in southwestern Pennsylvania in a county called Fayette County
which is a county which was about 40 minutes from the attempted assassination of Donald Trump
Just I point that out because people have seen that imagery of that area because of that
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disastrous event that took place
so you can kind of get a picture of where I was from
The county that I was born and raised in
was the poorest county in the state of Pennsylvania
My family was very engaged with poverty
I was raised in a redneck culture of ill-billy redneck
and sometimes saying this word
not trying to keep the slur into the air
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what sometimes people would refer to as white trash
the dougliness of the term
Sure
is the indigenous to the types of areas we're from
because it signifies lack of education
a tremendous amount of racism
a tremendous amount of misogyny
a tremendous amount of living in lower self-consciousness
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from the ground up
that is a culture of living by the example of being raised
and really, you know
I started in private school hotly enough
this is the strangeness of this story now
when I was six or seven
I tested out of first, second, and third grade
but they had just changed the laws in Pennsylvania
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to not accommodate them anymore
so I was forced to attend them anyway
I started playing the piano when I was three
I guess looking back, I suppose it's fair to say
that I was something that you would call now as a prodigy
I could hear anything, play anything that I heard
and it goes on to a very weird level with it
That's cool
being able to recall things with a weird accuracy
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and this kind of stuff
so this came with me through my life
music was always part of my life
I probably had 10,000 hours behind the piano
by the time I was 12 or 13 years old
by the time I was finishing high school
they would want me to be a priest
something I didn't want
that's why they think of education and Catholic Church
I left school and I received my first professional employment job
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performing the piano in public
in public from 16 or 17
I had had a couple of little jobs before that
which I clearly, you know, spend them away
it's typical stuff, you know
two months of McDonald's
couple months of the grocery store
and my entire life
this point forward has been self-employed
I make music as a freelance artist
I've done this all my life in private venues
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and these kinds of things
I have a bunch of albums out
I have a website
where now we're getting re-coordinated
as a content creation
is the primary mechanism of my...
of my purpose, you know
something which has developed quite rapidly
here on TikTok
I have a very independent mindset
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but a very strong left-wing set of views
I, like many people, have spent the better part of this past year
voicing my opinions very staunchly
on things that I've seen over the past 15 years
this is not something new
these recent events in this rotten stew
that we're all trying to walk away from
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realizing it's on the table no matter where we go
it's nothing new
it's been going off for a long time
and it's been a steady journey to get here
so I'm looking at how can I...
how can I be of a value to the community that I've built
I've created a Discord server to do so
and it's just been launched
and I'm creating music that is designed to
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authentically showcase it
I am wandering on this timeline with you
trying to find my inspiration
and my light
sometimes I'm able to step into it
and sometimes I just have a cloudy day
and I just have to wait it out
so I get my next shaft of sunlight
so it's a very realistic approach I take
a very holistic approach to life
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how I do and what I...
it's just as important as what I do
how I live on this timeline
how I choose to engage
how I choose to set my modality
to deal with these events that make me angry
how I choose to take this again
and what I do with that energy
I have a very special...
special approach with emotional energy
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that I've developed over 20 years
I guess it would be also a good...
a good to say that I am extremely empathic
to the point that I've had a couple of events
three or four in my life
that were a little bit close to an ex-files moment
personally for me
and it was that powerful but experience
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till this day when I think about things that happened
it was just a little bit...
a little bit much even today to process
I can understand that
the energy of people
the body language combined with the way that they speak
the sound of their voice
when a person talks
I can almost feel the sound of their chest
my ears are extremely sensitive
being a professional...
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professional musician I've trained this also
so I hear things in people's voices sometimes
that I don't want to hear
it's just...
it's just...
you know it's something that...
you know I sit in this house
having this conversation with you right now
it's a white man living in San Francisco, California
and the past week on this app
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I've seen enough pain to...
if it could be converted into a fuel burning energy
would be enough to power this country for a month
and simultaneously seeing people trying to cope with this
from my position of executive privilege here
living in the most liberal, powerful, democratic government
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in the world perhaps
you know even with its shortcomings
even with its mistakes
California is a collection of mistakes
mistaken experiments that have failed
forward always forward
sometimes with one failure to the next
but because we will not treat homelessness like a pariah
and instead look at these experimental policies
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that are designed to try to deal with some one
fails after another
we become the target of the rest of this
right-leaning country as being a failure
failure is failure to try
talking about people's lives
it's all about suppression isn't it
I mean at the end of the day
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that's their language
that's the language they're using
especially in this election
it's fear-based
it's oppression
yes they want to get inside your head
police the way you say
if I could engineer you to be ashamed to open your mouth
I owe you
and this is a lot of what is taking
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place right
it's this going back to a culture of
queers get back in the closet
where you belong
this kind of language is absolutely abhorrent
you know
your job is to be a servant to a man
if you talk about being independent
we're going to shame you
if you talk about wanting to run the household
we're going to shame you
if you can talk about being a
strong independent woman
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I'm going to ridicule you
this is the emotional battle
that is taking place
right now
in the soul of a woman
the soul of the LGBTQIA members
for the soul of the victims of systemic racism
and at the top of this heap
we have white supremacy
who has circled its wagons
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all right now
with the most volatile
the most history-on-a-people in their culture now
that are right up this close
this close to the end word
in the conversations
I mean
this we think that this is an impossible place
that we can't get to
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but it's there in everything but word
this is the place that we find ourselves on
and this
I mean
incredibly preposterous peculiar time
it's slipped out
and almost
of like full words just in new circles
you know of course
you know as soon as those come out
people are quick to clip it
and show it and people people's like
look man
this is what people are saying about
anybody
the hate the slurs that come in
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and not just
not just for the end word
but also for
for also other words
familial
and yeah
other words that have been
you know
boiled and baked by
Nazis
and other hate groups
not just white people
they're targeting
but boy do they love to put them front and center
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and that
sucks it fucking sucks
I um
I watched Dr. Phil
and I watched Donald Trump
in conversation
on a YouTube video
and
sure
look at your microphone volume somewhere
you're sounding a little low
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hello
oh yes
it's down to the
up is that better
a little better
can you hear me
all of these words
that people use
the only way
after watching that conversation with
Dr. Phil
and Donald Trump
the only way
someone can control you
is
and this is my belief
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is if I allow it
I have to allow that information in
and the only reason I am the way I am
and creating
emotions
that lead to our power
well
taken away
if I may
yes
sometimes
if you look at
the behavioral profession
and people who
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voiced
their opinions on the subject of severe depression
and severe negative emotions
right off the bat
it's important
important to
quantify
a couple of things
right
and this isn't
this isn't so much about
your power in relation to the situation
this is about the situation itself
this is a time
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this is a bad moment
let's just call it what it is
you know
you know
depending upon who you are
what you
what life you live
how bad that is
is not exactly equal
to everybody else
which makes this even more difficult
because now we bring in a quality
into the subject of
hey
layers and levels
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layers and levels of consequences
to various people from various marks of life
so when you say something like this
you have to be
I don't want to
I don't want to be a terrible hearer
you don't want to be cold or callous
about it
you want to be very
principled
when you say
or think
or hear these words that
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hard times move
they come
and they pass
how bad this is going to be
depends upon circumstances
which has not yet completely occurred
fearing the consequences right now
what has not come to pass
is just as disruptive and destructive
as walking through the timeline
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when they are in its own unique way
we have to believe
that we have the power
and the pathway
to get through this
first
if we do not see things in such a way
where we are willing to say that
this is happening
it's horrible
and there will be a tomorrow
and this tomorrow
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sooner or later
is going to get better
and this is the dangerous slippery slope
of something called
hopeium
you know
toxic positivity
it's not about that
it's about just
just about the very realness of the situation
that we can't choose
how we operate through this moment
and look out two years from now
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and
right literally I do believe
this is speculation
pardon me
that these people are going to fuck things up so badly
that the consequences
that come back to middle of the road
dipshit swing voters
who just basically vote like a
change of season
who don't take personal consequences
until it comes to their doorstep
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and hurts their particular family members
and their particulars
and their particular children
that over this course of this two years
whether it's through the tariffs
they wreck this economy
or laws that revoke civil rights
of
you know
and I say this with love of black gentlemen
who voted for Barack Obama
voted for Joseph Biden
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but will not vote for a women
and this is one example
I'm not keeping responsibility
on one race or culture
and I say this to you
so what can we do
what are we going to do
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to stay vigilant
to be better people
to affect people around us
put power healing out
get healing back in
I was going to akin that karma
I didn't get that quite yet
but now I am
and we have came to talk about
what
self-defense classes can teach you
on how to be a better person
yes that's where we left off
yeah
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all right
all right
so defense classes
jays
oh my god
yes I was saying that I taught women
self-defense classes
for a couple of years
I used to wear the body suit
and
you know
it's really about situational awareness
and
a woman
being able to use all the resources
of her capabilities to
whatever is in the immediate environment
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to
lower risk level
right from the start
and some of these concentric circles
started
two feet
six feet
ten feet
go out to 20 feet
that when somebody enters that perimeter
it is okay to start assessing them
as a risk
anybody who
continues to close that distance
the risk factor is going up
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infinitely the closer they get
they get to you
so the idea is to start managing
your mind space
what you're doing
and how you're doing it
and addressing
whatever it is that's coming towards you
from the start
anyways the point I'm making
is
in this society right now
we have a large segment of this
voting population
that's living under 60 feet of muddy water
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with a blind hold on
that
that basically goes like this
and reacts to whatever
whatever's out there by saying
oh that hurts
I don't like it
I'll go this way
and that means cognitive dissonance
transgender
society
is the weaponization of cognitive dissonance
in these people
that's why
Donald Trump spent
$100 million
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dollars
on an advertising campaign
30 days before the election
that focused on nothing
but bigotry towards the transgender community
now
a lot of these ads had to do with Kamala Harris
supposedly funding
the sexual reassignment surgery
am I seeing that the right way
of
yeah
those videos
yeah
I was about to say
I don't think I saw them
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but as soon as you said that
I didn't either
I didn't see them
so so well
I can see you
there's so many social media
you're a huge on YouTube
for some reason
well that's
yeah
so
Kamala Harris
was involved
with two
and I'm not exactly sure the story here
but apparently it can be tied to two events
of inmates
in California
that were receiving the
type of care
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that is given in these circumstances
which is things that I'm still learning about
and
and when you consider
that there is a population of 40 million people
two people
is such a small percent of 40 million
did you have to use scientific notation
to write it out
it's something like
something times
minus 10 to the
five minus five power or something
I think so
minus five minus six
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something like that
yeah
so some
something
it's very
it's very small
but this was the entire campaign for 30 days
aimed
at middle America
so
so they can get them to the point
where they say this
I'm so tired of hearing about this shit
I am so tired of hearing about this shit
well
the reason you're tired of hearing about it
is because the people who want you to vote
for them are talking to you about it
26 hours a day
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I live in San Francisco, California
and today
you would think
you know
with this big motto
that's placed on San Francisco
about the LGBTQIA community
if Republican story was true
by the time I go out my door
I've encountered 75 transgender people
before I get to the first block on the street
into this
it's just this inundated
the trans people
yeah
and into this day
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I have not encountered
I
you know what I mean
that
sure
are you sure
where are they
you know
I say this because I hardly go
I say this because I hardly
go out
no fair enough
okay
so
the math is kind of stacked for you
I got you
let me ask you this Jace
I mean because
I
I believe everybody's a little trans
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I believe everybody's a little gay
I believe everybody's got a little
they're inner drag queen
I believe
I believe all these things like
well keep in mind
I'm talking about the Republican perspective here
of what transgenderism is
and LGBTQIA
if their story
is the one that is the truth then
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transgender people look like this
LGBTQIA
looks like that
this look
you know what I mean
it's just this
it's so generalized
I mean just the bigotry
against
I have a trans
I'm trans
but I have a girlfriend
who was previously identified
as a man
but now
she's a goddess
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I mean I look at her
and that's what I see
she's a hundred and fifty million percent woman
there is nothing about
she is more feminine than me
sure sure
I don't really care
I always wondered
I talked to a friend of mine
about this
that I hadn't talked to in 10 or 15 years
and he's one of those swing voters living out Pennsylvania
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in a subject
this subject came up and I said
you know
of course I'm probably going to trip over my own personal ignorance here
because we're all learning here
we're all
we're all
in this timeline together
discovering new things about other people
that we've never known before
with that comes a whopping dose of personal ignorance
it only comes with experience
you know
you get experience
and I thought to myself
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how would I feel
this is just how my head works
bear with me
because I'm really going out on
how would I feel
if I woke up in the morning
and I looked in the mirror at the image of that
myself coming back to me
or
or whether it's the feel of my own skin
body
whatever else
however you want to describe this
and I felt
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with all my heart
and all my soul
and all of my experience that I am actually
a woman
how would that
how would that make
how would that make
me
feel
and just off the top of my head
the range of emotions that my empathy wants to point at
whether they're incorrect or correct
makes it clearly evident to me
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that this is not a situation
that might seem at first comfortable
fun desirable
easily to find happiness in
right
and meanwhile
right wing America is pointing at me
as trying to
live
in this situation
as being evil
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at all
at all the same time
and acting as if
I'm doing this because it's fun
I'm selfish
and you know
I'm just playing games here
and I'm more concerned about myself
than the rest of the world
when back
man's man
woman's woman that's it and story blah blah blah
and if I go against that
then I'm toying with everybody
I don't think anybody signs on to this
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from a perspective of
I think I'll have some fun with this
yeah
now
this is life
this is life
look at it too
look at it this with this way
and I've realized this
that
it doesn't matter who you are
if you hate
you're gonna side with that side
yeah
you hate
you're you
I've seen
you know
Latinos for Trump
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Latinos
for Trump
because they don't want any more
immigrants
coming over
and taking their rights away
but yet
you're a Latino
and you're voting against your
people
well
that they hate
I just
it all depends on what you're clear about
generation there
I just want to clear this up
because I don't want anybody to
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misinterpret what I'm saying
under no circumstances whatsoever
am I implying
shame in this situation
of somebody in these circumstances
what I'm trying to say is these
yeah
we're
feeling people
trying our best to understand
who we are
what we are
in circumstances
that land on us
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that this is our
this is our story
this is who we are
you know
and that's the transgender community
it's every community on this planet
yeah
it's just amazing
it's like
it's like a giant
is it
all the challenges of everybody's
personal life is enough
you got this giant wheel of bigotry
with a spinner on it
and it's transgender
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start
transgender community
you're
you're going to be the pariah
for 2024 election now
who will it be in 2028
I will come to fear
what they don't understand
and
there are a lot of people who don't
want to understand
things that
were not in their social sphere
because they feel that it's going to
affect them
they've lived in their comfortable
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bubble
for so long
that
the idea of bringing
another thought in
feels like that that might change them
and people also inherently afraid of change
people are afraid in general
comes out in all types of different ways
but the biggest one that we all hear
about is anxiety
I feel that anxiety was such a driving force
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people
such a driving force
that pushed people to vote
the way that they voted
people who would have maybe not
have voted for Trump two years ago
voted now because
the thought of change
the thought of a woman being in the White House
or any of the other
shit sandwich things that they saw on the ballot
that they just didn't like
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and they're like well
here's an old white dude
I mean
he did it before
maybe he could do it again
there's been
well you know
I said
yeah
it's hard man
really frustrates me
so many different reasons
of this situation
yeah
and you know what's really
when I say this
it makes me like
feel a range of emotions
when I think about the fact that if Joseph Biden
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had been under a different set of circumstances
and I'm just
this is nothing more than a hypothetical
experimental question
just like my last question was
I love to have thought experiments
surely not trying to offend anybody
trying to offend anybody
by having thought experiments
because I believe it's a key
to having empathy for people
is to try to
feel what it is other people are feeling
which is often impossible
but worth trying anyways
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and if Joseph Biden
would have stepped down
in the presidential race
six months ago
we would have had a primary
what would have happened
I want to tell you my predictor
I do believe that the misogyny
and systemic racism that prevented Kamala Harris
from achieving the office of president
of the United States
and I do believe that this moment
it is the primary reason
she is not president
I believe she is the right
right woman
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and in the right place
at the right in the right place
and for me
at the right time
but apparently for these
centrist voters in this country
there's never such things
so that this all would have manifested
and Gavin Newsom
whether you like him
love him or hate him
or whatever else
people some people love him
some people hate him
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he's a pariah with certain sectors
among the left population
I understand
what if the case is
he's got the look
he's got the talent
on the debate stage
just like Kamala had
but he's got his own way about him
and he would
might possibly be the president
of the United States right now
because I think that those same people
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who were in the middle of this
might have turned their attention
to the greed and the weirdness
that was taking place
a little bit more
and just with a calm message of
here's what these people are doing
here's why they're wrong
it might have steered them
a little bit more in the middle
to the left
and this is what the Democratic Party
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is going to have to figure out
it's like you know look
when you use optimism
to wish away something
like systemic racism
and misogyny
and begotry towards the various members
of our population
whatever which
the various they are when you and you look past it
beautiful for you
bad for necessarily if you're trying to set a standard to win
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are we ready to accept that?
are we ready to accept that maybe
as I believe that Pete Buttigieg
could be one of the most qualified leaders
in this country right now
and that's my personal belief
I admire him
I appreciate him
I would vote for him
that he may not be able to win
because of who he is
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yeah
this is the reality of the situation
so now we have to ask ourselves
we're going to take that sit down
or we're going to go out there and educate people
you can't educate people who are the dumbest
most gullible
absolute most manipulative people
in this society
which is the core base voter population
to the right
because I know because I grew up with them
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okay
and it's also people in the middle of this
who politics is like walking into a basket of romans
and picking from 42 different flavors
of whichever flavor looks the most
whatever they're in the mood for
that's the one they pick
yeah
so I'm weak
yeah
okay
Michael you're you were in the military
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guilty
and I would say you
so there's this perspective
them I know of the military
the teachers the like me
I'm a nurse
I work for the government as well
you know
in certain facilities and things
and I don't see any money
going back
going but I don't I don't know how the military spends its money
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and if if there's a lot of military who don't know how the military spends their money
yeah I mean I don't know how how people are living
because if you're working for the government
I mean I live with a school teacher right now
and he's doing fine but you know you're not going to get rich
doing you want a little insight on what it's like to actually
live in the military when it comes to like money
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well I can't I can't speak to the people who are doing it now
because it's you know it's literally a score of years since I was in the military
but if it hadn't been for the housing that they gave us in Virginia
I would have never had the chance to live in a decent house
when the money that I was making at the time
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also to be fair we were young we were dumb we knew nothing of savings
our money handling was atrocious but there's a lot of kids in the military
or who are like that
straight out of high school being thrown in there
if they weren't taught about finance in high school
they're not going to learn about it in the Navy
we lived in a pretty shitty apartment we had enough money to basically you know
keep our car afloat the military insurance was there so we didn't really
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for anything else like that but you know it's not like we were
we didn't spend our money on a whole bunch of creature comforts
your comforts or a whole bunch of flashy stuff there were people who did
but I have a sinking sign that if you were young
fresh in the Navy and you had all the stuff that you opened up lines of credit
and then you thought that you were going to be in the military to pay them off
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I saw that happen I don't know how much it happened to a whole bunch of other people
so it's not a huge lavish lifestyle if you do well in the Navy they'll promise
to help you with other things like maybe get into school
pay for your tuition VA loans are available but they're not exactly the best
I mean but then again what loans are the food
the food was okay I mean I was on the USS enterprise so you know we had two
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galleys that were pretty well stocked they offer stick steak and lobster to the
the families when they came aboard it was the the cheaper lobster but still
you know the spiny spiny rock lobster but all in all
it's not I don't think most people go into the military I mean
I wrote in my book that my dad asked me about going into the military because
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they were going to pay for college and the recruiter who brought me in there
gave me nothing but promise of money if I went in for nuclear side of things and
so yeah money was definitely part of the reason why I went in but I don't think
a lot of people are thinking that this is going to be the cash cow now as you
get older if you're staying there longer maybe if you do your 20 years I don't
know I did only four years myself I should have done six got out on four on bad
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behavior so well that's what my whole point is
it's like okay Washington is so separate from everything Washington is a
separate entity correct yeah they create laws in Washington
well think about it it's like okay Washington
governs they don't govern Florida we have a governor that governs Florida
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correct this laws are created in Washington
and then eventually they trickle down into legislature in states
it to you know it doesn't directly affect my state
right Washington you mean Washington DC yes
yes Washington DC yes yes that's my question
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that's what I've wanted to know it's like okay Michael was in the military I've
worked for the government I look at the facility that I work in
and there's literally no money being put into it
no money for the patients no money for medications
we're they spend 80 cents a day on the food for patients okay and you know you
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can go to Washington and you can pick it and you can and you can fight for your
rights and you can ask for this and you can ask for that but I can tell you
right now the government the government is
going to do what the government wants to do am I right or am I wrong
I see where I see where the boomerang came back in this I
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see I see that yeah yeah I mean so there is a sort of
helplessness I think that comes along with people who have been working
in government positions for so long in fact
people who do work in government are very cynical about how the wheels of
change either are too rusted to move or too big to be
seen while they're moving in our lifetime will we see the change that we
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actually want to enact I'll be honest with you that's kind of the way life
goes with government or not a lot of the things that we want to put out there
unless they're small direct we know that we can turn the wheel
ourselves we're not going to see the change immediately which is why we try
to be the best person we can there are two things I want to say
in that first one being that my friend one time asked me what the meaning of
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life was and I took a couple of days to
there well I took a week there there's probably more to life than just this but
it feels me with like purpose every time that I say it
and my answer is is to make this world better for the people who are going to
come after us because ultimately that's all we are we're a chain of
organisms that are just trying to build on the past
yeah and then the other one being if you want to
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talk about exactly how hopeless you can feel in the military
I was technically homeless while still being in the military
it was during my downswing it was while I was getting out but I definitely lived
in an extended stay hotel because I couldn't afford anything else
so uh having all that said there are things that I'm putting out
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for me to try to make a better world for the people who are coming after me
there there are people who are coming onto my page but either people who know
me or don't who are saying things like I'm scared
what do I do the there's a lot of this going on was what is my dog whistle to
let people know that I'm on their side those are the the ones that are scared
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just because they really don't understand what's going on a lot of these
kids are young you know like just got out of high school or
approaching the end of high school or maybe you know just hit their 20s
technically I mean let's be honest with you as far as brains go that's still
pretty young right and my answer to them has been
we gotta keep our eyes open we gotta keep our heads up humans
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are have a horrible time looking up we all want to look down
where we're going where we're stepping but things that are happening above us
can happen with such quick ferocity that it'll leave us stunned maybe even
injurious if we're not paying attention and so it doesn't matter whose side
that you're on if people are taking away our basic needs as humans we are not
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allowed to grow as people again going back to that humans versus people thing
we were talking about a couple of days ago Edith I just
I want people I want to generate a sphere of people who care about the basic
needs the who who to put them in a space where they can
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develop empathy
and to know how important that is.
It feels that way too. Well it's just it's known to be one of the poorest
empathy nations on the planet it really is. Well it's definitely what they're
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advertising to everybody too and that's the shitty part.
The lack the lack of empathy in this country is what is fueling the problem
that that you know so many democratic party analysts right now are
gleefully overlooking as they talk about Kamala Harris's messaging towards the
middle class Kamala Harris is messaging towards these people those people lack
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of this should have done this if you would have done that this would have been
but when you're dealing with people who literally like I said are under that
60 feet underwater walking away from what hurts them the most this is
basically another way of another way of illustrating
cognitive dissonance formulating the the structure by which people decide
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their their biases you know. Sure. Whatever makes me feel slightly
weird or uncomfortable I trend away from. Oh my god that is so true.
When people when people say things that also are in agreement with my trend in
that direction then I trend that way faster and you know
we could argue all day alone with damn it isn't there a way we could have
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messaged on behalf of it marginalized communities in this country.
What's easy for us to understand as an education and assist a system of
inclusivity is fighting directly against constant radicalization
and somewhere along the line. Good way to put it.
People people discovered that there are elements on the
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outskirts of me out there on the left end where extremism starts that there's
radicalization that is available there too so let's
pull this apart from both sides like anything else
I believe the situation can become stronger it's
the annoying part about this the most angering and annoying part about this
is that I have to unless I get some other data that concludes otherwise
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I have to conclude that there is consequences that must take
place here for the people who are 60 feet under the water because whether
or not we like it they are the ones that are deciding this election in this
messed up broken-ass electoral college system which wouldn't have saved us this
time anyways apparently because you know the popular vote was lost as well
and I you know just I knew things were going bad
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the day of when the when the supposed landslide
didn't happen by 6 p.m. this evening west 6 6 p.m. that evening west coast time
I took a close look at the electoral map of Pennsylvania
and I saw something there that looked very very very dangerous
and by 8 30 p.m. that evening I had a glass of wine and I went to bed early at
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9 p.m. knowing the Kamala Harris lossy election
yeah I would have known that too take you know take at that take at that time
and wow how we how easily we were we were cajoled because of the energy
because of our willing to believe that this was the moment.
That's what I was saying about Washington
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is that it's a racket it is a show I was telling you
um Jace I said you know what I knew I knew she was gonna lose
I knew she was gonna lose because they can't afford to have a woman in the
White House because I knew too Donald Trump has created so much
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fear in people like oh took away my rights well look honey I'm trans
I'm gonna be trans I'm queer and both sides I will say we're peddling a little fear
yeah yeah yeah yeah they had their own way each one had their own way I think
the biggest mistake the biggest mistake right here
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that the Democratic Party can make number one top of the list
is expecting miracles for example MnZ is gonna save us
okay I have seen Gen Z dudes 21, 22, 23, I'm three years old and are in that
Zoom in my comment feeds you know how long you've been a woman
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when did you decide you were trans you've got such pretty pink lips
well look at his soft dove white skin do you have a nice ass
you have such pretty long hair constant constant constant barrage oh yes
constant barrage and bigotry because damn this bro culture this bro culture
than Joe Rogan has ignited that's why Joe Rogan saved
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his endorsement one or two days before the election
after one month of bigoted campaigning from the Trump convict Trump to the tune
of $100 million Rogan says at the very end of this now guys go do what has to
be done show people in this country who the men are
yeah this is this is a state well Gen Z young men are susceptible
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yes but also Gen Z are also young and they have 20 years to get through the
20 or 30 years depending on how long we want to wait for them to catch up to our
ages to see the mistakes and get into politics themselves
there's going to be a new fresh wave of people what that's going to look like
it's not necessarily going to be great or bad that's the nature of politics it's
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it's a quagmire of feelings and money and greed and fear so it'd be
interesting to see when Gen Z grows up to see what they believe what it looks
like what world they want to shape I hope it's going to be good because
hopefully I'll be looking at retirement around that point if it's such a thing
even fucking exists I don't think there's a such a thing for me
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I mean I feel me you know I say that with love though because I feel more
ignited I feel do creative I'm really retired
but I'm one fucking fire I am one fucking fire
I wake up in the morning with smoke rise around my
around my enthusiasts I am I am ignited by the people who are coming to me on an
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almost sometimes hourly basis you know I underestimate myself I've had my
TikTok for a year I've built it up now and it's about to hit 80,000 followers
of course I believe TikTok is going to get banned so naturally I said to myself
you know I've got a I've got a I've got a pool of wagons in here now create my
home base and I've got a website it's JSTOTLive and I've got my
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I've got my Discord server and so anyways long story short I put it out there in a
couple of pieces of content just randomly after I was
either lampooning someone or pointing out you know who the dumbest people in
this country are. That's all this stuff. Well I'm
very I can be very very point blank with my my takes and
I say by the way I'm creating a Discord server I'm averaging 500 email signups
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in two days. That's really good. And you know as I know
doing what we do email list is the hardest thing to grow in this business
because when people give you their email it's because they want you to have
contact and that is still the principal point of contact
for people. This is the way most businesses done is through email
transactive email list building and marketing and stuff like this which is
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that's just a point that I'm pointing at that says that's how powerful email is.
I underestimate myself you know I'm getting these messages thank god you're
doing this man I don't know what else I would do where else I would go.
I'm not trying to be a guru for anybody and I'm not trying to be this
lighthouse on the cliff pointing out into the sea but
whatever reason I'm good at pointing this and whatever it is that I believe is
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what needs to be said and delivering it in a way that is that is
effective to people certain people and this is where I am right now and I
feel needed I feel wanted and I feel more importantly
that's a more shallow element on the more important element.
I feel like I can actually help someone
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and that is what you know makes me feel better. That's what might be causing all
that smoke on my face. That's good that's what's causing that
energy. They say that you know people empower some
of the best people who are and I say empower I mean like
people who lead I guess really who lead effectively
are not necessarily the ones that decided that they were going to step
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into that position. They just happen to graduate that's how it happened for me
is I just kind of graduated into this position that I'm in because
I was in the lowest of the lowest place when I say the Republican my both
both parents staunch Republicans they you know I love the Indians I love
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I love Latino community I've always wanted to be black
and of course I'm Jewish but never grew up Jewish I was in a Baptist cult so
I mean you know and then there's the queer aspect of my personality so to my
parents my parents actually hated me they talked to me like they hated me
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my dad even to this day talks to me like I'm in servitude towards him and that
I need to be obedient so I had to quit talking to him
yeah I mean they're just my parents off too
yeah I mean and I didn't even realize that I should
have been doing that well you're so now I understand that if someone's
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beliefs don't align with mine I don't really need to be in that
close proximity or a relationship with them
or if I am then I set the boundaries and they need to be respected so
you know I'm lucky that I have a brother that loves me dearly
he's a Democrat he's also a geologist he's an insurance investigator for
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Humana right now he lives in Portland Oregon I mean he's he's the most amazing
person and I love him so much but my upbringing was not like his my
parents saw to it that he had the education that he had at all of his
needs met when I was growing up they medicated me
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they put me on all kinds of medications I don't feel sorry for myself
that's the cool thing I look I look at my past like this
girl you picked it for a reason honey I don't know why you wanted to climb a
big mountain like that but okay so I've had to climb over a lot of hate
other people's hate for me for the sunshine that I have
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well it sounds to me like a healthy dose dose of acceptance there
that is that is so very powerful and so very compelling and so very important
without accepting that these circumstances
have power to screw your life up now but accepting
that this happened to me and I happened with it it takes the
victimization of it and victimization is something that can
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has forward potential to inform your sense of yourself the belief of your
ego and your belief systems you know I've seen
all of that change just within a year and a half of knowing Edith she's been
through a whole lot from the first meager
conversation that we have on the first episode of my lost podcast that I have
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to running these with her and like the enthusiasm that she has on
trying anything new and trying and trying and successfully finding new
ways to grow it's been great watching that uh I
want to touch on community because it seems like that's where
that's where we're headed is that we want to make sure that the communities
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that we grow are in a space that they can grow
in empathy you know that they can be self-aware
I mean the growth in one year is amazing I've been at TikTok for four
years it's only been like the last two years that I've really known what I've
wanted to do like creatively but I've been pretty much
capped at like 10,000 on TikTok and I've got like meager growth in other
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places and I just want to know Edith I don't know
anything about your numbers I don't know how many followers or anything that you
have but I have a feeling that your community is more along about the
people that you bring in for these conversations it is it's it's not I don't
have an obsession about the growth it's more about finding my voice and my
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authenticity and my voice was so small when I started
and Michael knows it's so funny it was really small but I had this big big
idea big dream and that is for other people like myself
who I couldn't even find out of a paper bag
Jace it was terrible my my voice was so small
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speaking up for myself and standing up for my boundaries
has been so hard for me and my roommate has helped me with that which I'm
truly grateful for we're very different
and we're both in agreement of that now and
you wouldn't believe two people fighting to stay in a relationship
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that doesn't belong as a relationship and that's the thing I cannot be with a
misogynist male I cannot be with a man that even thinks
they're gonna dominate me just a little bit because I'm proud of you
because I know there's a certain part of you that goes
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but yeah but it's a sexy dude event but then
yeah you got you're looking past that and I'm proud of you
both of you all were talking about your parents jace you said you're cut your
parents off and it was everything I could do
just not to not say to dive into my dead parent humor and go my parents pretty
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much handled themselves but it's not necessarily what it was
health issues being what it was that's what ultimately
you know change their fate yeah but um I'll be honest with you it'd be
interesting just looking back at my parents like my dad was
a racist I wanted to I wanted to include more people
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of color in my life when I was growing up and I had one really cool friend who
was black who I guess through humor alone won his
way into our house but no other friends that I ever brought around who were
people of color were ever really accepted including the one crush I wanted
to bring over one time but mom I don't know I don't know where
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she would be in all this I think she would have been stoked about the idea of
Kamala I don't know if she would have believed
necessarily the rhetoric she was never really one to take people
at face value with commercials something that I've inherited so I don't
know like it's it looks like I think we kind of all
know what we're what we're going to try to do
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we're going to try to build build better communities build community I love that
I have such empathy for young people I when I run into
a young person that's all I want to hear I want to hear your hope
someone hear your dreams someone hear all about you
you know and and if we could all do that a little bit more
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just touching the heart of a young person
and letting them express themselves and and their dreams for themselves because
that is something I didn't have as a child no one cared
you know something I think about my mom would have liked you I would have liked
her too sorry something I think about no no it's fine
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something I think so so great grateful to be here thank you both this has been
wonderful it's hard to experience and I feel enriched
enriched sharing this timeline in a space with you both I really do
this was a wonderful choice to be here the same thing you've had a great time
and I value every minute of it I think about you know where
where this road goes from here as far as the people who
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I feel have betrayed us voted but they're left lower based emotions and
operated under their non-growth conditions and
whatever you'd like to call it and I am hitting these people
hard in my TikTok content you are I'm you know and
yeah standpoint from standpoint of you know my liberal friends I'm sure I'm
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going to hear from one of them or them in a situation sooner or later I mean
like could you say I think you've made your point here but this is not going to
win these people back into our fold I imagine that conversation is going to
start at some point and I don't know what I haven't
said about that yet I'm busy enough right now
in this in this space. We'll cross that bridge later.
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I love my liberal friends you know and I mean like I said I call myself a
progressive independent did not I have I'm willing to disagree with
certain mindsets it's not politics it's a mindset about certain things because
I've really worked hard on and I'm still failing but I'm
still learning but getting back to this whole thing I just uh
when I made the decision back in 2016 to say what the fuck are we doing here
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republicans what is going on are you there hello car 54 where are you
what is going on? What's home darling? I immediately
immediately started hearing from not one but hundreds of people loved your
music my whole life just want you to know I'm throwing your CDs at the trash
I loved your music my whole life I used to listen to it every Sunday morning I'm
(52:14):
not listening to you whenever again and I that was me saying hey what are we
doing you know that was just for that just for that and I knew
right then that I will not I will not put myself in a
situation of having to look at the reflection coming back to me in the
mirror and know that I'm sitting on my hands and my speaking my truth of power
but is undragged ambitious enough to what these people's money
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yeah that that that was a strong move right there
to change the trajectory of my life forever forever you know because I'm an
artist I rely on people I rely on people going like this
and returning value to me taking this in and giving it back
and that cut that right down right down the center but you know
I want to give a I want to give a little bit of hope to people artists
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painters musicians people out there thinking about having
thinking about having a professional career doing this please listen to these
words this is not 1990 there are more than enough people in
this world that will allow you your privilege of having a professional
career as an artist 71 million people voted for Kamala Harris
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and counting you know that we're still figuring some things out about that
election but your art and your creativity
closer you get to your authenticity the more powerful you become and this is
pulled off a layer of the of the onion with me that has enabled me to get to
the fresh fresh skin of my creativity and don't be afraid to
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I mean if you're wanting if you're wanting to be a world famous celebrity or
something like that I don't know what to I don't know what to tell you there
that's something that's beyond my ability to understand when it comes
to having people who your music means the world to you know and it comes from
the philosophy of not making something for everyone making something that has
the potential to be a lot for someone when it comes to that
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that is a trust-based relationship and when you speak your truth to power from
your heart with passion and dignity and in some cases pride whatever it is the
only thing that does is bring people closer to that
you have to walk past the people that think you're a piece of shit to get to
the people who think that you are one of the most important parts of their
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experience whatever that is okay and just keep that in mind when you're when
you're trying to figure this out if you're a young artist out there and
you're like oh man if I see what I want to say about what's happened you know
when you look back through history of the most successful artists out there
they were known for having pretty big mouths yeah look and I know a lot of
artists and I know a lot of artists that are LGBTQIA
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I mean there's just something special about
a gay artist there just really is I mean look at new Patrick Harris that man
can sing and dance and act and you know I just I love
artists and I want to come the other way and go as
much as there are cool gay folk queer folk out there there's
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also queer assholes but you know that just makes it all
just makes it all a more interesting community like that crazy guy from
Florida on tiktok that crazy guy from Florida on tiktok who is you know
outspokenly outspokenly gay and proud just great
but just literally is the most right wing crazy right wing
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I mean that's what we call a mean gay honey people people have layers
uh jace I think that's the show for today because I love you did it
Edith promised to edit this one and we have given her a sizable chunk of
stuff to go through so uh more more power too I still
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I still am finishing one of our last big interviews who is also
from California and the he had rave reviews for California said everything
was great over there and he's an interesting individual I
recommend checking out we just actually released our first part of his
it's on youtube it was a wild ride it was interesting it was interesting
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I think we're gonna thank you so much for this wonderful experience I really
appreciate it this has been a great lively conversation
you're welcome back anytime man Edith you want to you want to
absolutely and if you feel like writing a song for bisexual coffee honey
I'll take it yeah other things that we should say honey
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coming in and peace out and word to you mother my pleasure
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Thank you so much for coming out to now
Ah, yeah, yeah, so it was a great show
Peace!
Hey, Jace, my friend, I would like you if you would
please let our listeners know who you are
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Hey, okay, alright
Well, I'm Jace Beck, I'm 52 years old
I grew up in southwestern Pennsylvania in a county called Fayette County
which is a county which was about 40 minutes from the attempted assassination of Donald Trump
Just I point that out because people have seen that imagery of that area because of that
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disastrous event that took place
so you can kind of get a picture of where I was from
The county that I was born and raised in
was the poorest county in the state of Pennsylvania
My family was very engaged with poverty
I was raised in a redneck culture of ill-billy redneck
and sometimes saying this word
not trying to keep the slur into the air
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what sometimes people would refer to as white trash
the dougliness of the term
Sure
is the indigenous to the types of areas we're from
because it signifies lack of education
a tremendous amount of racism
a tremendous amount of misogyny
a tremendous amount of living in lower self-consciousness
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from the ground up
that is a culture of living by the example of being raised
and really, you know
I started in private school hotly enough
this is the strangeness of this story now
when I was six or seven
I tested out of first, second, and third grade
but they had just changed the laws in Pennsylvania
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to not accommodate them anymore
so I was forced to attend them anyway
I started playing the piano when I was three
I guess looking back, I suppose it's fair to say
that I was something that you would call now as a prodigy
I could hear anything, play anything that I heard
and it goes on to a very weird level with it
That's cool
being able to recall things with a weird accuracy
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and this kind of stuff
so this came with me through my life
music was always part of my life
I probably had 10,000 hours behind the piano
by the time I was 12 or 13 years old
by the time I was finishing high school
they would want me to be a priest
something I didn't want
that's why they think of education and Catholic Church
I left school and I received my first professional employment job
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performing the piano in public
in public from 16 or 17
I had had a couple of little jobs before that
which I clearly, you know, spend them away
it's typical stuff, you know
two months of McDonald's
couple months of the grocery store
and my entire life
this point forward has been self-employed
I make music as a freelance artist
I've done this all my life in private venues
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and these kinds of things
I have a bunch of albums out
I have a website
where now we're getting re-coordinated
as a content creation
is the primary mechanism of my...
of my purpose, you know
something which has developed quite rapidly
here on TikTok
I have a very independent mindset
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but a very strong left-wing set of views
I, like many people, have spent the better part of this past year
voicing my opinions very staunchly
on things that I've seen over the past 15 years
this is not something new
these recent events in this rotten stew
that we're all trying to walk away from
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realizing it's on the table no matter where we go
it's nothing new
it's been going off for a long time
and it's been a steady journey to get here
so I'm looking at how can I...
how can I be of a value to the community that I've built
I've created a Discord server to do so
and it's just been launched
and I'm creating music that is designed to
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authentically showcase it
I am wandering on this timeline with you
trying to find my inspiration
and my light
sometimes I'm able to step into it
and sometimes I just have a cloudy day
and I just have to wait it out
so I get my next shaft of sunlight
so it's a very realistic approach I take
a very holistic approach to life
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how I do and what I...
it's just as important as what I do
how I live on this timeline
how I choose to engage
how I choose to set my modality
to deal with these events that make me angry
how I choose to take this again
and what I do with that energy
I have a very special...
special approach with emotional energy
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that I've developed over 20 years
I guess it would be also a good...
a good to say that I am extremely empathic
to the point that I've had a couple of events
three or four in my life
that were a little bit close to an ex-files moment
personally for me
and it was that powerful but experience
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till this day when I think about things that happened
it was just a little bit...
a little bit much even today to process
I can understand that
the energy of people
the body language combined with the way that they speak
the sound of their voice
when a person talks
I can almost feel the sound of their chest
my ears are extremely sensitive
being a professional...
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professional musician I've trained this also
so I hear things in people's voices sometimes
that I don't want to hear
it's just...
it's just...
you know it's something that...
you know I sit in this house
having this conversation with you right now
it's a white man living in San Francisco, California
and the past week on this app
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I've seen enough pain to...
if it could be converted into a fuel burning energy
would be enough to power this country for a month
and simultaneously seeing people trying to cope with this
from my position of executive privilege here
living in the most liberal, powerful, democratic government
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in the world perhaps
you know even with its shortcomings
even with its mistakes
California is a collection of mistakes
mistaken experiments that have failed
forward always forward
sometimes with one failure to the next
but because we will not treat homelessness like a pariah
and instead look at these experimental policies
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that are designed to try to deal with some one
fails after another
we become the target of the rest of this
right-leaning country as being a failure
failure is failure to try
talking about people's lives
it's all about suppression isn't it
I mean at the end of the day
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that's their language
that's the language they're using
especially in this election
it's fear-based
it's oppression
yes they want to get inside your head
police the way you say
if I could engineer you to be ashamed to open your mouth
I owe you
and this is a lot of what is taking
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place right
it's this going back to a culture of
queers get back in the closet
where you belong
this kind of language is absolutely abhorrent
you know
your job is to be a servant to a man
if you talk about being independent
we're going to shame you
if you talk about wanting to run the household
we're going to shame you
if you can talk about being a
strong independent woman
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I'm going to ridicule you
this is the emotional battle
that is taking place
right now
in the soul of a woman
the soul of the LGBTQIA members
for the soul of the victims of systemic racism
and at the top of this heap
we have white supremacy
who has circled its wagons
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all right now
with the most volatile
the most history-on-a-people in their culture now
that are right up this close
this close to the end word
in the conversations
I mean
this we think that this is an impossible place
that we can't get to
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but it's there in everything but word
this is the place that we find ourselves on
and this
I mean
incredibly preposterous peculiar time
it's slipped out
and almost
of like full words just in new circles
you know of course
you know as soon as those come out
people are quick to clip it
and show it and people people's like
look man
this is what people are saying about
anybody
the hate the slurs that come in
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and not just
not just for the end word
but also for
for also other words
familial
and yeah
other words that have been
you know
boiled and baked by
Nazis
and other hate groups
not just white people
they're targeting
but boy do they love to put them front and center
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and that
sucks it fucking sucks
I um
I watched Dr. Phil
and I watched Donald Trump
in conversation
on a YouTube video
and
sure
look at your microphone volume somewhere
you're sounding a little low
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hello
oh yes
it's down to the
up is that better
a little better
can you hear me
all of these words
that people use
the only way
after watching that conversation with
Dr. Phil
and Donald Trump
the only way
someone can control you
is
and this is my belief
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is if I allow it
I have to allow that information in
and the only reason I am the way I am
and creating
emotions
that lead to our power
well
taken away
if I may
yes
sometimes
if you look at
the behavioral profession
and people who
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voiced
their opinions on the subject of severe depression
and severe negative emotions
right off the bat
it's important
important to
quantify
a couple of things
right
and this isn't
this isn't so much about
your power in relation to the situation
this is about the situation itself
this is a time
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this is a bad moment
let's just call it what it is
you know
you know
depending upon who you are
what you
what life you live
how bad that is
is not exactly equal
to everybody else
which makes this even more difficult
because now we bring in a quality
into the subject of
hey
layers and levels
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layers and levels of consequences
to various people from various marks of life
so when you say something like this
you have to be
I don't want to
I don't want to be a terrible hearer
you don't want to be cold or callous
about it
you want to be very
principled
when you say
or think
or hear these words that
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hard times move
they come
and they pass
how bad this is going to be
depends upon circumstances
which has not yet completely occurred
fearing the consequences right now
what has not come to pass
is just as disruptive and destructive
as walking through the timeline
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when they are in its own unique way
we have to believe
that we have the power
and the pathway
to get through this
first
if we do not see things in such a way
where we are willing to say that
this is happening
it's horrible
and there will be a tomorrow
and this tomorrow
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sooner or later
is going to get better
and this is the dangerous slippery slope
of something called
hopeium
you know
toxic positivity
it's not about that
it's about just
just about the very realness of the situation
that we can't choose
how we operate through this moment
and look out two years from now
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and
right literally I do believe
this is speculation
pardon me
that these people are going to fuck things up so badly
that the consequences
that come back to middle of the road
dipshit swing voters
who just basically vote like a
change of season
who don't take personal consequences
until it comes to their doorstep
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and hurts their particular family members
and their particulars
and their particular children
that over this course of this two years
whether it's through the tariffs
they wreck this economy
or laws that revoke civil rights
of
you know
and I say this with love of black gentlemen
who voted for Barack Obama
voted for Joseph Biden
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but will not vote for a women
and this is one example
I'm not keeping responsibility
on one race or culture
and I say this to you
so what can we do
what are we going to do
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to stay vigilant
to be better people
to affect people around us
put power healing out
get healing back in
I was going to akin that karma
I didn't get that quite yet
but now I am
and we have came to talk about
what
self-defense classes can teach you
on how to be a better person
yes that's where we left off
yeah
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all right
all right
so defense classes
jays
oh my god
yes I was saying that I taught women
self-defense classes
for a couple of years
I used to wear the body suit
and
you know
it's really about situational awareness
and
a woman
being able to use all the resources
of her capabilities to
whatever is in the immediate environment
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to
lower risk level
right from the start
and some of these concentric circles
started
two feet
six feet
ten feet
go out to 20 feet
that when somebody enters that perimeter
it is okay to start assessing them
as a risk
anybody who
continues to close that distance
the risk factor is going up
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infinitely the closer they get
they get to you
so the idea is to start managing
your mind space
what you're doing
and how you're doing it
and addressing
whatever it is that's coming towards you
from the start
anyways the point I'm making
is
in this society right now
we have a large segment of this
voting population
that's living under 60 feet of muddy water
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with a blind hold on
that
that basically goes like this
and reacts to whatever
whatever's out there by saying
oh that hurts
I don't like it
I'll go this way
and that means cognitive dissonance
transgender
society
is the weaponization of cognitive dissonance
in these people
that's why
Donald Trump spent
$100 million
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dollars
on an advertising campaign
30 days before the election
that focused on nothing
but bigotry towards the transgender community
now
a lot of these ads had to do with Kamala Harris
supposedly funding
the sexual reassignment surgery
am I seeing that the right way
of
yeah
those videos
yeah
I was about to say
I don't think I saw them
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but as soon as you said that
I didn't either
I didn't see them
so so well
I can see you
there's so many social media
you're a huge on YouTube
for some reason
well that's
yeah
so
Kamala Harris
was involved
with two
and I'm not exactly sure the story here
but apparently it can be tied to two events
of inmates
in California
that were receiving the
type of care
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that is given in these circumstances
which is things that I'm still learning about
and
and when you consider
that there is a population of 40 million people
two people
is such a small percent of 40 million
did you have to use scientific notation
to write it out
it's something like
something times
minus 10 to the
five minus five power or something
I think so
minus five minus six
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something like that
yeah
so some
something
it's very
it's very small
but this was the entire campaign for 30 days
aimed
at middle America
so
so they can get them to the point
where they say this
I'm so tired of hearing about this shit
I am so tired of hearing about this shit
well
the reason you're tired of hearing about it
is because the people who want you to vote
for them are talking to you about it
26 hours a day
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I live in San Francisco, California
and today
you would think
you know
with this big motto
that's placed on San Francisco
about the LGBTQIA community
if Republican story was true
by the time I go out my door
I've encountered 75 transgender people
before I get to the first block on the street
into this
it's just this inundated
the trans people
yeah
and into this day
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I have not encountered
I
you know what I mean
that
sure
are you sure
where are they
you know
I say this because I hardly go
I say this because I hardly
go out
no fair enough
okay
so
the math is kind of stacked for you
I got you
let me ask you this Jace
I mean because
I
I believe everybody's a little trans
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I believe everybody's a little gay
I believe everybody's got a little
they're inner drag queen
I believe
I believe all these things like
well keep in mind
I'm talking about the Republican perspective here
of what transgenderism is
and LGBTQIA
if their story
is the one that is the truth then
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transgender people look like this
LGBTQIA
looks like that
this look
you know what I mean
it's just this
it's so generalized
I mean just the bigotry
against
I have a trans
I'm trans
but I have a girlfriend
who was previously identified
as a man
but now
she's a goddess
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I mean I look at her
and that's what I see
she's a hundred and fifty million percent woman
there is nothing about
she is more feminine than me
sure sure
I don't really care
I always wondered
I talked to a friend of mine
about this
that I hadn't talked to in 10 or 15 years
and he's one of those swing voters living out Pennsylvania
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in a subject
this subject came up and I said
you know
of course I'm probably going to trip over my own personal ignorance here
because we're all learning here
we're all
we're all
in this timeline together
discovering new things about other people
that we've never known before
with that comes a whopping dose of personal ignorance
it only comes with experience
you know
you get experience
and I thought to myself
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how would I feel
this is just how my head works
bear with me
because I'm really going out on
how would I feel
if I woke up in the morning
and I looked in the mirror at the image of that
myself coming back to me
or
or whether it's the feel of my own skin
body
whatever else
however you want to describe this
and I felt
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with all my heart
and all my soul
and all of my experience that I am actually
a woman
how would that
how would that make
how would that make
me
feel
and just off the top of my head
the range of emotions that my empathy wants to point at
whether they're incorrect or correct
makes it clearly evident to me
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that this is not a situation
that might seem at first comfortable
fun desirable
easily to find happiness in
right
and meanwhile
right wing America is pointing at me
as trying to
live
in this situation
as being evil
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at all
at all the same time
and acting as if
I'm doing this because it's fun
I'm selfish
and you know
I'm just playing games here
and I'm more concerned about myself
than the rest of the world
when back
man's man
woman's woman that's it and story blah blah blah
and if I go against that
then I'm toying with everybody
I don't think anybody signs on to this
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from a perspective of
I think I'll have some fun with this
yeah
now
this is life
this is life
look at it too
look at it this with this way
and I've realized this
that
it doesn't matter who you are
if you hate
you're gonna side with that side
yeah
you hate
you're you
I've seen
you know
Latinos for Trump
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Latinos
for Trump
because they don't want any more
immigrants
coming over
and taking their rights away
but yet
you're a Latino
and you're voting against your
people
well
that they hate
I just
it all depends on what you're clear about
generation there
I just want to clear this up
because I don't want anybody to
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misinterpret what I'm saying
under no circumstances whatsoever
am I implying
shame in this situation
of somebody in these circumstances
what I'm trying to say is these
yeah
we're
feeling people
trying our best to understand
who we are
what we are
in circumstances
that land on us
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that this is our
this is our story
this is who we are
you know
and that's the transgender community
it's every community on this planet
yeah
it's just amazing
it's like
it's like a giant
is it
all the challenges of everybody's
personal life is enough
you got this giant wheel of bigotry
with a spinner on it
and it's transgender
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start
transgender community
you're
you're going to be the pariah
for 2024 election now
who will it be in 2028
I will come to fear
what they don't understand
and
there are a lot of people who don't
want to understand
things that
were not in their social sphere
because they feel that it's going to
affect them
they've lived in their comfortable
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bubble
for so long
that
the idea of bringing
another thought in
feels like that that might change them
and people also inherently afraid of change
people are afraid in general
comes out in all types of different ways
but the biggest one that we all hear
about is anxiety
I feel that anxiety was such a driving force
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people
such a driving force
that pushed people to vote
the way that they voted
people who would have maybe not
have voted for Trump two years ago
voted now because
the thought of change
the thought of a woman being in the White House
or any of the other
shit sandwich things that they saw on the ballot
that they just didn't like
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and they're like well
here's an old white dude
I mean
he did it before
maybe he could do it again
there's been
well you know
I said
yeah
it's hard man
really frustrates me
so many different reasons
of this situation
yeah
and you know what's really
when I say this
it makes me like
feel a range of emotions
when I think about the fact that if Joseph Biden
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had been under a different set of circumstances
and I'm just
this is nothing more than a hypothetical
experimental question
just like my last question was
I love to have thought experiments
surely not trying to offend anybody
trying to offend anybody
by having thought experiments
because I believe it's a key
to having empathy for people
is to try to
feel what it is other people are feeling
which is often impossible
but worth trying anyways
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and if Joseph Biden
would have stepped down
in the presidential race
six months ago
we would have had a primary
what would have happened
I want to tell you my predictor
I do believe that the misogyny
and systemic racism that prevented Kamala Harris
from achieving the office of president
of the United States
and I do believe that this moment
it is the primary reason
she is not president
I believe she is the right
right woman
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and in the right place
at the right in the right place
and for me
at the right time
but apparently for these
centrist voters in this country
there's never such things
so that this all would have manifested
and Gavin Newsom
whether you like him
love him or hate him
or whatever else
people some people love him
some people hate him
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he's a pariah with certain sectors
among the left population
I understand
what if the case is
he's got the look
he's got the talent
on the debate stage
just like Kamala had
but he's got his own way about him
and he would
might possibly be the president
of the United States right now
because I think that those same people
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who were in the middle of this
might have turned their attention
to the greed and the weirdness
that was taking place
a little bit more
and just with a calm message of
here's what these people are doing
here's why they're wrong
it might have steered them
a little bit more in the middle
to the left
and this is what the Democratic Party
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is going to have to figure out
it's like you know look
when you use optimism
to wish away something
like systemic racism
and misogyny
and begotry towards the various members
of our population
whatever which
the various they are when you and you look past it
beautiful for you
bad for necessarily if you're trying to set a standard to win
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are we ready to accept that?
are we ready to accept that maybe
as I believe that Pete Buttigieg
could be one of the most qualified leaders
in this country right now
and that's my personal belief
I admire him
I appreciate him
I would vote for him
that he may not be able to win
because of who he is
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yeah
this is the reality of the situation
so now we have to ask ourselves
we're going to take that sit down
or we're going to go out there and educate people
you can't educate people who are the dumbest
most gullible
absolute most manipulative people
in this society
which is the core base voter population
to the right
because I know because I grew up with them
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okay
and it's also people in the middle of this
who politics is like walking into a basket of romans
and picking from 42 different flavors
of whichever flavor looks the most
whatever they're in the mood for
that's the one they pick
yeah
so I'm weak
yeah
okay
Michael you're you were in the military
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guilty
and I would say you
so there's this perspective
them I know of the military
the teachers the like me
I'm a nurse
I work for the government as well
you know
in certain facilities and things
and I don't see any money
going back
going but I don't I don't know how the military spends its money
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and if if there's a lot of military who don't know how the military spends their money
yeah I mean I don't know how how people are living
because if you're working for the government
I mean I live with a school teacher right now
and he's doing fine but you know you're not going to get rich
doing you want a little insight on what it's like to actually
live in the military when it comes to like money
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well I can't I can't speak to the people who are doing it now
because it's you know it's literally a score of years since I was in the military
but if it hadn't been for the housing that they gave us in Virginia
I would have never had the chance to live in a decent house
when the money that I was making at the time
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also to be fair we were young we were dumb we knew nothing of savings
our money handling was atrocious but there's a lot of kids in the military
or who are like that
straight out of high school being thrown in there
if they weren't taught about finance in high school
they're not going to learn about it in the Navy
we lived in a pretty shitty apartment we had enough money to basically you know
keep our car afloat the military insurance was there so we didn't really
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for anything else like that but you know it's not like we were
we didn't spend our money on a whole bunch of creature comforts
your comforts or a whole bunch of flashy stuff there were people who did
but I have a sinking sign that if you were young
fresh in the Navy and you had all the stuff that you opened up lines of credit
and then you thought that you were going to be in the military to pay them off
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I saw that happen I don't know how much it happened to a whole bunch of other people
so it's not a huge lavish lifestyle if you do well in the Navy they'll promise
to help you with other things like maybe get into school
pay for your tuition VA loans are available but they're not exactly the best
I mean but then again what loans are the food
the food was okay I mean I was on the USS enterprise so you know we had two
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galleys that were pretty well stocked they offer stick steak and lobster to the
the families when they came aboard it was the the cheaper lobster but still
you know the spiny spiny rock lobster but all in all
it's not I don't think most people go into the military I mean
I wrote in my book that my dad asked me about going into the military because
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they were going to pay for college and the recruiter who brought me in there
gave me nothing but promise of money if I went in for nuclear side of things and
so yeah money was definitely part of the reason why I went in but I don't think
a lot of people are thinking that this is going to be the cash cow now as you
get older if you're staying there longer maybe if you do your 20 years I don't
know I did only four years myself I should have done six got out on four on bad
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behavior so well that's what my whole point is
it's like okay Washington is so separate from everything Washington is a
separate entity correct yeah they create laws in Washington
well think about it it's like okay Washington
governs they don't govern Florida we have a governor that governs Florida
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correct this laws are created in Washington
and then eventually they trickle down into legislature in states
it to you know it doesn't directly affect my state
right Washington you mean Washington DC yes
yes Washington DC yes yes that's my question
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that's what I've wanted to know it's like okay Michael was in the military I've
worked for the government I look at the facility that I work in
and there's literally no money being put into it
no money for the patients no money for medications
we're they spend 80 cents a day on the food for patients okay and you know you
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can go to Washington and you can pick it and you can and you can fight for your
rights and you can ask for this and you can ask for that but I can tell you
right now the government the government is
going to do what the government wants to do am I right or am I wrong
I see where I see where the boomerang came back in this I
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see I see that yeah yeah I mean so there is a sort of
helplessness I think that comes along with people who have been working
in government positions for so long in fact
people who do work in government are very cynical about how the wheels of
change either are too rusted to move or too big to be
seen while they're moving in our lifetime will we see the change that we
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actually want to enact I'll be honest with you that's kind of the way life
goes with government or not a lot of the things that we want to put out there
unless they're small direct we know that we can turn the wheel
ourselves we're not going to see the change immediately which is why we try
to be the best person we can there are two things I want to say
in that first one being that my friend one time asked me what the meaning of
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life was and I took a couple of days to
there well I took a week there there's probably more to life than just this but
it feels me with like purpose every time that I say it
and my answer is is to make this world better for the people who are going to
come after us because ultimately that's all we are we're a chain of
organisms that are just trying to build on the past
yeah and then the other one being if you want to
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talk about exactly how hopeless you can feel in the military
I was technically homeless while still being in the military
it was during my downswing it was while I was getting out but I definitely lived
in an extended stay hotel because I couldn't afford anything else
so uh having all that said there are things that I'm putting out
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for me to try to make a better world for the people who are coming after me
there there are people who are coming onto my page but either people who know
me or don't who are saying things like I'm scared
what do I do the there's a lot of this going on was what is my dog whistle to
let people know that I'm on their side those are the the ones that are scared
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just because they really don't understand what's going on a lot of these
kids are young you know like just got out of high school or
approaching the end of high school or maybe you know just hit their 20s
technically I mean let's be honest with you as far as brains go that's still
pretty young right and my answer to them has been
we gotta keep our eyes open we gotta keep our heads up humans
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are have a horrible time looking up we all want to look down
where we're going where we're stepping but things that are happening above us
can happen with such quick ferocity that it'll leave us stunned maybe even
injurious if we're not paying attention and so it doesn't matter whose side
that you're on if people are taking away our basic needs as humans we are not
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allowed to grow as people again going back to that humans versus people thing
we were talking about a couple of days ago Edith I just
I want people I want to generate a sphere of people who care about the basic
needs the who who to put them in a space where they can
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develop empathy
and to know how important that is.
It feels that way too. Well it's just it's known to be one of the poorest
empathy nations on the planet it really is. Well it's definitely what they're
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advertising to everybody too and that's the shitty part.
The lack the lack of empathy in this country is what is fueling the problem
that that you know so many democratic party analysts right now are
gleefully overlooking as they talk about Kamala Harris's messaging towards the
middle class Kamala Harris is messaging towards these people those people lack
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of this should have done this if you would have done that this would have been
but when you're dealing with people who literally like I said are under that
60 feet underwater walking away from what hurts them the most this is
basically another way of another way of illustrating
cognitive dissonance formulating the the structure by which people decide
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their their biases you know. Sure. Whatever makes me feel slightly
weird or uncomfortable I trend away from. Oh my god that is so true.
When people when people say things that also are in agreement with my trend in
that direction then I trend that way faster and you know
we could argue all day alone with damn it isn't there a way we could have
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messaged on behalf of it marginalized communities in this country.
What's easy for us to understand as an education and assist a system of
inclusivity is fighting directly against constant radicalization
and somewhere along the line. Good way to put it.
People people discovered that there are elements on the
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outskirts of me out there on the left end where extremism starts that there's
radicalization that is available there too so let's
pull this apart from both sides like anything else
I believe the situation can become stronger it's
the annoying part about this the most angering and annoying part about this
is that I have to unless I get some other data that concludes otherwise
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I have to conclude that there is consequences that must take
place here for the people who are 60 feet under the water because whether
or not we like it they are the ones that are deciding this election in this
messed up broken-ass electoral college system which wouldn't have saved us this
time anyways apparently because you know the popular vote was lost as well
and I you know just I knew things were going bad
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the day of when the when the supposed landslide
didn't happen by 6 p.m. this evening west 6 6 p.m. that evening west coast time
I took a close look at the electoral map of Pennsylvania
and I saw something there that looked very very very dangerous
and by 8 30 p.m. that evening I had a glass of wine and I went to bed early at
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9 p.m. knowing the Kamala Harris lossy election
yeah I would have known that too take you know take at that take at that time
and wow how we how easily we were we were cajoled because of the energy
because of our willing to believe that this was the moment.
That's what I was saying about Washington
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is that it's a racket it is a show I was telling you
um Jace I said you know what I knew I knew she was gonna lose
I knew she was gonna lose because they can't afford to have a woman in the
White House because I knew too Donald Trump has created so much
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fear in people like oh took away my rights well look honey I'm trans
I'm gonna be trans I'm queer and both sides I will say we're peddling a little fear
yeah yeah yeah yeah they had their own way each one had their own way I think
the biggest mistake the biggest mistake right here
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that the Democratic Party can make number one top of the list
is expecting miracles for example MnZ is gonna save us
okay I have seen Gen Z dudes 21, 22, 23, I'm three years old and are in that
Zoom in my comment feeds you know how long you've been a woman
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when did you decide you were trans you've got such pretty pink lips
well look at his soft dove white skin do you have a nice ass
you have such pretty long hair constant constant constant barrage oh yes
constant barrage and bigotry because damn this bro culture this bro culture
than Joe Rogan has ignited that's why Joe Rogan saved
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his endorsement one or two days before the election
after one month of bigoted campaigning from the Trump convict Trump to the tune
of $100 million Rogan says at the very end of this now guys go do what has to
be done show people in this country who the men are
yeah this is this is a state well Gen Z young men are susceptible
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yes but also Gen Z are also young and they have 20 years to get through the
20 or 30 years depending on how long we want to wait for them to catch up to our
ages to see the mistakes and get into politics themselves
there's going to be a new fresh wave of people what that's going to look like
it's not necessarily going to be great or bad that's the nature of politics it's
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it's a quagmire of feelings and money and greed and fear so it'd be
interesting to see when Gen Z grows up to see what they believe what it looks
like what world they want to shape I hope it's going to be good because
hopefully I'll be looking at retirement around that point if it's such a thing
even fucking exists I don't think there's a such a thing for me
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I mean I feel me you know I say that with love though because I feel more
ignited I feel do creative I'm really retired
but I'm one fucking fire I am one fucking fire
I wake up in the morning with smoke rise around my
around my enthusiasts I am I am ignited by the people who are coming to me on an
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almost sometimes hourly basis you know I underestimate myself I've had my
TikTok for a year I've built it up now and it's about to hit 80,000 followers
of course I believe TikTok is going to get banned so naturally I said to myself
you know I've got a I've got a I've got a pool of wagons in here now create my
home base and I've got a website it's JSTOTLive and I've got my
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I've got my Discord server and so anyways long story short I put it out there in a
couple of pieces of content just randomly after I was
either lampooning someone or pointing out you know who the dumbest people in
this country are. That's all this stuff. Well I'm
very I can be very very point blank with my my takes and
I say by the way I'm creating a Discord server I'm averaging 500 email signups
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in two days. That's really good. And you know as I know
doing what we do email list is the hardest thing to grow in this business
because when people give you their email it's because they want you to have
contact and that is still the principal point of contact
for people. This is the way most businesses done is through email
transactive email list building and marketing and stuff like this which is
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that's just a point that I'm pointing at that says that's how powerful email is.
I underestimate myself you know I'm getting these messages thank god you're
doing this man I don't know what else I would do where else I would go.
I'm not trying to be a guru for anybody and I'm not trying to be this
lighthouse on the cliff pointing out into the sea but
whatever reason I'm good at pointing this and whatever it is that I believe is
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what needs to be said and delivering it in a way that is that is
effective to people certain people and this is where I am right now and I
feel needed I feel wanted and I feel more importantly
that's a more shallow element on the more important element.
I feel like I can actually help someone
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and that is what you know makes me feel better. That's what might be causing all
that smoke on my face. That's good that's what's causing that
energy. They say that you know people empower some
of the best people who are and I say empower I mean like
people who lead I guess really who lead effectively
are not necessarily the ones that decided that they were going to step
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into that position. They just happen to graduate that's how it happened for me
is I just kind of graduated into this position that I'm in because
I was in the lowest of the lowest place when I say the Republican my both
both parents staunch Republicans they you know I love the Indians I love
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I love Latino community I've always wanted to be black
and of course I'm Jewish but never grew up Jewish I was in a Baptist cult so
I mean you know and then there's the queer aspect of my personality so to my
parents my parents actually hated me they talked to me like they hated me
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my dad even to this day talks to me like I'm in servitude towards him and that
I need to be obedient so I had to quit talking to him
yeah I mean they're just my parents off too
yeah I mean and I didn't even realize that I should
have been doing that well you're so now I understand that if someone's
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beliefs don't align with mine I don't really need to be in that
close proximity or a relationship with them
or if I am then I set the boundaries and they need to be respected so
you know I'm lucky that I have a brother that loves me dearly
he's a Democrat he's also a geologist he's an insurance investigator for
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Humana right now he lives in Portland Oregon I mean he's he's the most amazing
person and I love him so much but my upbringing was not like his my
parents saw to it that he had the education that he had at all of his
needs met when I was growing up they medicated me
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they put me on all kinds of medications I don't feel sorry for myself
that's the cool thing I look I look at my past like this
girl you picked it for a reason honey I don't know why you wanted to climb a
big mountain like that but okay so I've had to climb over a lot of hate
other people's hate for me for the sunshine that I have
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well it sounds to me like a healthy dose dose of acceptance there
that is that is so very powerful and so very compelling and so very important
without accepting that these circumstances
have power to screw your life up now but accepting
that this happened to me and I happened with it it takes the
victimization of it and victimization is something that can
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has forward potential to inform your sense of yourself the belief of your
ego and your belief systems you know I've seen
all of that change just within a year and a half of knowing Edith she's been
through a whole lot from the first meager
conversation that we have on the first episode of my lost podcast that I have
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to running these with her and like the enthusiasm that she has on
trying anything new and trying and trying and successfully finding new
ways to grow it's been great watching that uh I
want to touch on community because it seems like that's where
that's where we're headed is that we want to make sure that the communities
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that we grow are in a space that they can grow
in empathy you know that they can be self-aware
I mean the growth in one year is amazing I've been at TikTok for four
years it's only been like the last two years that I've really known what I've
wanted to do like creatively but I've been pretty much
capped at like 10,000 on TikTok and I've got like meager growth in other
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places and I just want to know Edith I don't know
anything about your numbers I don't know how many followers or anything that you
have but I have a feeling that your community is more along about the
people that you bring in for these conversations it is it's it's not I don't
have an obsession about the growth it's more about finding my voice and my
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authenticity and my voice was so small when I started
and Michael knows it's so funny it was really small but I had this big big
idea big dream and that is for other people like myself
who I couldn't even find out of a paper bag
Jace it was terrible my my voice was so small
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speaking up for myself and standing up for my boundaries
has been so hard for me and my roommate has helped me with that which I'm
truly grateful for we're very different
and we're both in agreement of that now and
you wouldn't believe two people fighting to stay in a relationship
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that doesn't belong as a relationship and that's the thing I cannot be with a
misogynist male I cannot be with a man that even thinks
they're gonna dominate me just a little bit because I'm proud of you
because I know there's a certain part of you that goes
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but yeah but it's a sexy dude event but then
yeah you got you're looking past that and I'm proud of you
both of you all were talking about your parents jace you said you're cut your
parents off and it was everything I could do
just not to not say to dive into my dead parent humor and go my parents pretty
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much handled themselves but it's not necessarily what it was
health issues being what it was that's what ultimately
you know change their fate yeah but um I'll be honest with you it'd be
interesting just looking back at my parents like my dad was
a racist I wanted to I wanted to include more people
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of color in my life when I was growing up and I had one really cool friend who
was black who I guess through humor alone won his
way into our house but no other friends that I ever brought around who were
people of color were ever really accepted including the one crush I wanted
to bring over one time but mom I don't know I don't know where
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she would be in all this I think she would have been stoked about the idea of
Kamala I don't know if she would have believed
necessarily the rhetoric she was never really one to take people
at face value with commercials something that I've inherited so I don't
know like it's it looks like I think we kind of all
know what we're what we're going to try to do
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we're going to try to build build better communities build community I love that
I have such empathy for young people I when I run into
a young person that's all I want to hear I want to hear your hope
someone hear your dreams someone hear all about you
you know and and if we could all do that a little bit more
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just touching the heart of a young person
and letting them express themselves and and their dreams for themselves because
that is something I didn't have as a child no one cared
you know something I think about my mom would have liked you I would have liked
her too sorry something I think about no no it's fine
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something I think so so great grateful to be here thank you both this has been
wonderful it's hard to experience and I feel enriched
enriched sharing this timeline in a space with you both I really do
this was a wonderful choice to be here the same thing you've had a great time
and I value every minute of it I think about you know where
where this road goes from here as far as the people who
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I feel have betrayed us voted but they're left lower based emotions and
operated under their non-growth conditions and
whatever you'd like to call it and I am hitting these people
hard in my TikTok content you are I'm you know and
yeah standpoint from standpoint of you know my liberal friends I'm sure I'm
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going to hear from one of them or them in a situation sooner or later I mean
like could you say I think you've made your point here but this is not going to
win these people back into our fold I imagine that conversation is going to
start at some point and I don't know what I haven't
said about that yet I'm busy enough right now
in this in this space. We'll cross that bridge later.
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I love my liberal friends you know and I mean like I said I call myself a
progressive independent did not I have I'm willing to disagree with
certain mindsets it's not politics it's a mindset about certain things because
I've really worked hard on and I'm still failing but I'm
still learning but getting back to this whole thing I just uh
when I made the decision back in 2016 to say what the fuck are we doing here
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republicans what is going on are you there hello car 54 where are you
what is going on? What's home darling? I immediately
immediately started hearing from not one but hundreds of people loved your
music my whole life just want you to know I'm throwing your CDs at the trash
I loved your music my whole life I used to listen to it every Sunday morning I'm
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not listening to you whenever again and I that was me saying hey what are we
doing you know that was just for that just for that and I knew
right then that I will not I will not put myself in a
situation of having to look at the reflection coming back to me in the
mirror and know that I'm sitting on my hands and my speaking my truth of power
but is undragged ambitious enough to what these people's money
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yeah that that that was a strong move right there
to change the trajectory of my life forever forever you know because I'm an
artist I rely on people I rely on people going like this
and returning value to me taking this in and giving it back
and that cut that right down right down the center but you know
I want to give a I want to give a little bit of hope to people artists
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painters musicians people out there thinking about having
thinking about having a professional career doing this please listen to these
words this is not 1990 there are more than enough people in
this world that will allow you your privilege of having a professional
career as an artist 71 million people voted for Kamala Harris
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and counting you know that we're still figuring some things out about that
election but your art and your creativity
closer you get to your authenticity the more powerful you become and this is
pulled off a layer of the of the onion with me that has enabled me to get to
the fresh fresh skin of my creativity and don't be afraid to
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I mean if you're wanting if you're wanting to be a world famous celebrity or
something like that I don't know what to I don't know what to tell you there
that's something that's beyond my ability to understand when it comes
to having people who your music means the world to you know and it comes from
the philosophy of not making something for everyone making something that has
the potential to be a lot for someone when it comes to that
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that is a trust-based relationship and when you speak your truth to power from
your heart with passion and dignity and in some cases pride whatever it is the
only thing that does is bring people closer to that
you have to walk past the people that think you're a piece of shit to get to
the people who think that you are one of the most important parts of their
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experience whatever that is okay and just keep that in mind when you're when
you're trying to figure this out if you're a young artist out there and
you're like oh man if I see what I want to say about what's happened you know
when you look back through history of the most successful artists out there
they were known for having pretty big mouths yeah look and I know a lot of
artists and I know a lot of artists that are LGBTQIA
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I mean there's just something special about
a gay artist there just really is I mean look at new Patrick Harris that man
can sing and dance and act and you know I just I love
artists and I want to come the other way and go as
much as there are cool gay folk queer folk out there there's
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also queer assholes but you know that just makes it all
just makes it all a more interesting community like that crazy guy from
Florida on tiktok that crazy guy from Florida on tiktok who is you know
outspokenly outspokenly gay and proud just great
but just literally is the most right wing crazy right wing
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I mean that's what we call a mean gay honey people people have layers
uh jace I think that's the show for today because I love you did it
Edith promised to edit this one and we have given her a sizable chunk of
stuff to go through so uh more more power too I still
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I still am finishing one of our last big interviews who is also
from California and the he had rave reviews for California said everything
was great over there and he's an interesting individual I
recommend checking out we just actually released our first part of his
it's on youtube it was a wild ride it was interesting it was interesting
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I think we're gonna thank you so much for this wonderful experience I really
appreciate it this has been a great lively conversation
you're welcome back anytime man Edith you want to you want to
absolutely and if you feel like writing a song for bisexual coffee honey
I'll take it yeah other things that we should say honey
(56:35):
yeah if you want to make music we're looking for a nice cool instrumental
we could talk prices too if you want to you just let us know what's going on but
also if anybody has anything that they would like to add ask any of the
people who've been on here please put if there's comments where you're
listening to this like on Spotify or Apple leave us a review actually Apple's
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and we'd love to hear from you we'd love to hear from you wonderful
and so Edith you brought us in I'm gonna take us out Jase thank you so much for
coming in and peace out and word to you mother my pleasure
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my pleasure
good night good night thank you bye bye
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