October 27, 2025 • 37 mins
This episode, Naoki tells the story of her son, a Black autistic teen whose survival hinged on jujitsu and a stranger’s kindness after years of ignored harassment escalated to an attempted murder. Through her voice, we trace systemic failures—from misreading autism as defiance, to racial stereotyping, to privacy violations by educators—that compounded his vulnerability. The conversation isn’t about shock; it’s a blueprint for prevention, outlining real fixes like mandatory mental health evaluations, forensic assessments, enforceable safety plans, in-school clinicians, and leadership stability. At its core, it’s a call for schools and communities to replace neglect with accountability so kids like Jaden can live as students, not survivors.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:12):
Hey everybody, welcome to B3U.
And I have with me the MissBeautiful Naomi.
Naomi, how are you?
SPEAKER_03 (00:21):
Hi, it's Naoki.
Nayoki.
It's okay, but Naomi is the isthe equivalent.
It's the girl's name.
I actually have a Japanese man'sname.
Yes, I'm a quarter Japanese.
So Watashiwa Ano Nao Kidday saidthose are yours, too.
That means hi.
My name is Naoki.
It's nice to meet you.
So um that'll be part of ourmore in-depth and and deep
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conversation because all thisethnic mix kind of there's some
stuff out there that we'remissing with all of this stuff
for us as people.
SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
So yes, I amazing.
So before we begin, um, how areyou holding up um as a mother
right now?
We all know your your situation.
Well, my viewers don't know, buttell us how you're holding up
and tell us a little bit aboutyour story and your son, Jaden.
SPEAKER_03 (01:14):
So we'll have to go back to the sixth grade.
Um, we moved here from the fromuh Varina.
I used to live over that way,and um he had a really
supportive environment.
My son is 16 years old now, buthe has autism.
And being a young man of colorwith autism, you know, he's got
some additional challenges thatmight not necessarily be obvious
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because he's high functioning,so his emotional issues are the
ones that are more uh prevalent.
So because he's not uh speech orlanguage delayed, there's a
preconceived notion with somepeople in the current school
system in Petersburg that, and Iquote, ain't nothing wrong with
him that a good ass womancouldn't fix.
And so I I I I I take explicitoffense to that because I'm also
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autistic, so are his brother andhis sister.
So having to fight the schoolsystem when I left Varina coming
here and let him know that Jadenis autistic.
Now, Jayden is a little bitgifted because Jaden also plays
acoustic guitar.
He was being taught by hisbrother, who is also self-taught
and in a band.
So, you know, it it was thejuxtaposition of seeing what my
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child can do as opposed to theirperception of my child when he
has like executive shutdown.
If there's too much stimulus,Jaden will shut down.
He will go to sleep like a baby.
So I'm constantly having tofight these people who are
telling me ain't nothing wrongwith him, because the prevalent
attitude amongst my ownconstituency here in Petersburg
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is that if you're black, theycan talk to you and your
children however they want to,because part of our demographic
is, oh girl, you know it takes afamily.
Um, but you're not my family.
And when you don't have the samevalues I have as far as my
family, when you have a wholenother background I'm not
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familiar with, then I don't havea level of comfort in an
assumption that just becausewe're black, we believe the same
things.
Like my my son, uh initially, mydaughter has some friends who
are trans.
And so we're we're we we're Pflag, we support things, even
though we may not agree withwhatever lifestyle, each and
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every life is to be respected.
So he went to stand up for ayoung lady who identifies as
trans.
And at first, before finding outthat it was the child of color,
standing up for this otherperson, because he he knows that
his sister has a friend who'strans, who is an adult, who he
understands.
So he feels a sense ofobligation to protect other
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people.
Meanwhile, he's been victimized.
So immediately the school that'sthe first call of the gear is
that Jaden's problematic, but Iknow better.
So I get there and there's justthese constant steps of they
want it's difficult for mebecause here in a predominant in
an environment where he'spredominantly amongst his other
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people of color, I would haveexpected a better attitude, but
it's not.
We have them using language likewhen the children are in
trouble, you go in for a meetingor you're fighting for an IEP
meeting where they're saying,well, what makes you think he's
autistic?
Well, first of all, we won'teven get into my qualifications
as to why, as a licensedclinical social worker in the
past, I would I could administerthe same Wexler that I'm needing
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you to give to my child.
But I don't feel that it shouldalways have to be a battle
because everyone in theadministrative staff wants to
take the low road.
They don't want to work, theywant to not pay attention to
parents being in the hallwayswhile the classes are changing
and overhearing these negativeattitudes.
And, you know, they're talkingto the children probably the
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same way they talk to theirchildren, but I don't talk to my
child like that.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
And so going back to the sixth grade, this young man
who assaulted my son, it startedin sixth grade.
They were in the bathroom and heairdropped a picture of my son's
penis to other students, havingtold them he was gonna do it.
Oh, I'll get a picture of his,you know what, using all the
language that young kids like toexperiment with when they're not
at home.
And so he did.
He airdropped a picture of myson's penis.
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So initially we had um, I thinkit was the middle school
principal from Short Pump.
So they took a woman, a whitewoman from the middle of a
affluent environment and stuckher in Petersburg for a few
weeks.
I'm sure she has PTSD because Iwas not the parent to mess with.
When I showed up, I said, I'mgonna need you to show me the
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phone when my son sent a pictureof his penis to anyone.
My son does not even changeclothes, hated the idea of
dressing out for PE, isautistic.
Body shaming is an issue withus.
He scars to where, you know, wehave dogs and we have grass and
we have land.
He goes out and plays with thedogs.
Anything that bites him putsscars on his legs.
So he's very sensitive about hiswhole body appearance.
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So when I challenged her, thenall of a sudden, then oh, oh,
we're sorry.
SPEAKER_01 (06:05):
So again, Jada So now let me ask you, Naoki.
So you're you're you said youhave mixed races, so you're
indigenous, yes, Japanese, yes,Creole.
SPEAKER_03 (06:17):
I'm from Louisiana, so I'm French, black, Irish,
Italian, Algerian, yeah, andJapanese.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
So when they talk and your son as well, right?
So exactly.
And so this kid, this young boy,his race is uh he's white.
SPEAKER_03 (06:37):
Okay, and you know, understanding that I I I am
empathetic to the fact that thisis a young white student in a
predominantly black school.
But I would have been moreempathetic had he been the one
not doing the victimizing.
Now, the young man,unfortunately, his mother has
passed from drugs, his father'sin jail for drugs, and his
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grandfather is the custodialparent, and that he's too busy
being a friend.
So these things they kept going.
And so from sixth grade with thepicture of the penis, then it
was in the eighth grade, anotherbathroom altercation where he
tells Jaden that uh he's gonnacome to the house and kill Jaden
and rape me.
So Jaden said, if you come to myhouse, I'll shoot you.
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So then I'm back at school againbecause my son has expressed the
fact that he's going to protecthis mother.
So Jaden gets suspended.
This kid gets suspended.
Then we move up into eighthgrade.
So the final coup de grace is apicture of Jaden having a bowel
movement that he airdrops again.
And so I pulled Jaden out ofschool.
I took him to District 19 forcounseling because when I sent,
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I asked if he could go speak tothe school counselor at the high
school, or excuse me, at the atoh yeah, this was at the middle
school.
Excuse me, I'm getting ahead ofmyself.
At the middle school, um, thecounselor basically was not
interested.
Oh, well, he needs somepsychological assistance.
So he had already been on theexceptional family member
program having autism.
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None of the resources thatshould have been available for
him as an autistic student wereavailable other than having
extra time to take his tests,which none of the teachers
wanted to implement because ittakes time away from the rest of
the classroom.
So he's been beat up by teachersand beat up by students for
being slow, retarded.
Uh, I don't have time for you tohave you test with every you're
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gonna test with everybody else.
I don't have time for you to beslow.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
Well, and this is in the city of Petersburg.
SPEAKER_03 (08:30):
Yes, ma'am.
So when I took Petersburg atVernon Johns Middle School to
the school board, all of asudden everybody becomes
complicit and backing downbecause during COVID, while he
was at home with me, he was anhonor roll student.
While he's there being abused byother students and bullied, he
can't get his work done becausehe's autistic.
And then they schedule IEPmeetings when they want to.
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And then I have to deal with analcoholic case manager who shows
up reeking, eyes, bloodshot,jaundice, and then is constantly
uh attacking me in the IP.
Are you is that a personalattack?
And then you can see on thevideo when you walk out of
school, the man comes up to hugme afterwards.
So being gaslit while my son'sbeing abused, I pulled him out
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of school.
Then the beginning of ninthgrade year, I let them know he's
not coming to school until Ihave a safety plan at the high
school.
Well, at the time, uh, Ms.
The student in question's nameis he's already been charged.
So uh I don't know what ifthere's any legalities about
releasing the name of a minor,but a minor that has attempted
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to murder another child, peopleneed to know who he is and keep
their children safe from him inPetersburg because he is still
at school.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
After this incident, I guess they expelled him for
whatever reason.
So he wasn't there at thebeginning of ninth grade.
He came back to school with theintent to seek revenge on Jaden
because me being a big mouth,his mom's big ass mouth is part
of the reason I got kicked outof school.
So I'm gonna fuck him up.
So students knew about this.
Students knew about this workingup to it.
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So Paul gets back this year intenth grade, and Jaden has
already chosen his auto shopbox.
SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
So we're talking four years.
SPEAKER_03 (10:13):
Yes, ma'am, from sixth grade to 10th grade
because he was gone for themajority of ninth grade, but
Jaden was already picked on bythe other members of that little
group.
So the ringleader comes backthis year, and I find out that
they're in the same fourth boxclass and I write a note.
I write a note and call theschool and let them know I want
Jaden out of that class.
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I don't like that child.
That child is not properlysupervised, and all he did was
get a break from school.
He's still a bully.
So Jaden and Paul get into analtercation in the classroom a
few weeks back, leading to thefourth block teacher taking it
upon himself to go and get mypersonal address, violate PII
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and the Privacy Act of 1974, getmy address and then tell instead
of telling other administratorswhat had occurred, the man shows
up to my house to talk to myminor child without me present,
sends me a message via text tomessage or text now, text wow,
some application.
If you are a teacher and you donot have a means by which your
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parents can contact you duringthe day, then you don't go
anywhere.
You damn sure don't show up atmy house.
So then when I called the policedepartment to let them know and
make an incident report and callthe school, I got no reaction.
So this is the same fourth blockin which he and Paul have had
this altercation, in which Pauldecides well, whatever prompted
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happened prompted this teacherto come to my house to talk to
my son, not me.
Put my minor child out on myporch to talk to him.
So I called the police, I calledthe school.
No one got back to me until thisincident that occurred on the
2nd of October.
So Paul has had this time tobuild up his revenge against
Jaden.
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So for two weeks prior to that,pretended he and Jaden were
friends, comes by him andgrandpa are picking Jaden up,
driving him to school together.
Well, on the 2nd of October, hetook grandpa's other vehicle, a
white Mustang, having only alearner's permit after he had
told other children, I'm gonnabeat his black ass to death and
let him drown.
That nigga's not gonna reach 16.
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Drove him out to a waterfall,knew to cross over from
Petersburg to ChesterfieldCounty to commit said crime.
Drives my son to the waterfall,and after consuming marijuana
like idiots, because Jadenthought all his friends were
gonna meet him for his birthday.
So my kid wasn't perfect, but mykid did not deserve to almost be
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murdered.
So this child lured him out withthe marijuana, lets him know,
okay, we gotta smoke together.
Oh, Jaden's asking where theother kids are gonna be.
Well, first we gotta smoke forthis pack.
They smoke marijuana, andapparently the young man gets
too high to fully execute hisplan to kill my son because my
son can fight back.
SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
Let me so let me be let me get a little clarity.
Jay, they Jaden went along withhim, even though he was a foe.
Yeah, he was a friend.
SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
And believe in things, yes, believe in.
Oh, well, we've matured and weburied this hatchet.
So my son is trying to stepforward and be a uh an
upstanding young man.
But meanwhile, young.
SPEAKER_01 (13:31):
So he wanted to be friends, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
He wanted to do the right thing and move forward and
have that little shop classtogether.
So he's taking the opportunityto talk to Paul about cars,
which are a favorite thing ofhis.
So his autism button is pressedand it's a in a good way.
So he's sharing all theinformation about these cars and
all this good stuff with Paul.
Meanwhile, Paul is letting otherkids know.
Hey, send me some gas moneybecause I'm gonna beat the I'm
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gonna beat his ass.
SPEAKER_01 (13:56):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (13:57):
So he takes him out to a park, takes him out to a
park to a waterfall, commencesto beating Jaden Let him know.
I'm gonna beat your black assand let you drown.
Proceeds while he's beating himto let him know that the house
we live in, because I don't livein crater square apartments, I
don't live in a trailer park.
Not that those are bad places tolive, but that's not where we
live.
So he's angry that my black sonhas more than him, has a parent.
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But rather than wanting to be myson's friend and see that
there's enough mom in me to goaround.
And it doesn't matter what coloryou are, you're welcome in my
home if you're a friend of mychild.
And that has been the way all mychildren are raised.
He has an issue with what lifehas dealt them because of the
choices that his family made.
But he's taken them out on mychild so much so since sixth
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grade, and then tells my son,Well, you were easily
fuckwithable.
That was new language for mebecause my son wore cowboy boots
and a cowboy hat because asindigenous Afro-Indigenous
people from Texas and Louisiana,that might be what we wear.
SPEAKER_00 (15:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
I mean, we do on my uncle's farm, um, we do get on
horses and we do break otherhorses, and we got a whole hog
farm.
I'm not wearing sneakers on ahog farm.
I'm sorry.
The poop boots is the bootsthat's getting worn on the farm.
So my children have been exposedto country life as
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Afro-Indigenous people.
So urban, urban ignorance is notsomething he's akin to, but he's
a he's well versed with allkinds of music.
So then it was the the the weekbefore he wore a Metallica
t-shirt.
And so the young man assumedthat because my son was black,
my son could not listen toMetallica.
He's like, that's my mom'sfavorite band.
SPEAKER_01 (15:46):
Look, my Metallica, don't get me started with James.
Come on, honey.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
That's our that is our deployment grind music.
You know, the hero of the day.
We know we're coming up.
One was my favorite album.
SPEAKER_03 (16:01):
Oh, yes, come on.
And they don't understand thatat our age in the 80s and 90s,
we we were getting along.
We was doing a lot of goodthings.
MC Hammer, everybody loved them.
When we were in school,everybody was trying to get
along.
We were holding hands, handsacross America.
We was all giving everybody acoke and a smile.
This degenerate backtrackinghappened somewhere in the
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mid-90s.
unknown (16:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
So let's let's get to the the whole part while
we're we are currentlyfundraising with for Jaden
because he took your son out tothe park.
Yes, had him take had him, youknow, uh smoke a uh a substance,
we marijuana, and it happened.
SPEAKER_03 (16:43):
Then he proceeded to start to beat him to death, and
his intent was to beat him todeath and push him in the
waterfall and let him drown.
And had my kid, had I not put myson in jujitsu.
This young man is five footseven, he's as tall as me and
weighs 270 pounds.
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My baby is five foot four, fivefive, a hundred and nine, if so
if you could imagine theequivalent of a whole nother
parent meeting my child, and hegot away and he found a young
man running on the the runner'spath.
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And had it not been for thosegood Samaritans, we might on
October 3rd on my baby's 16thbirthday, he might have been
missing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (17:35):
And my problems lie not only with the school system
that let it happen, but theinability between two
jurisdictions to serve aprotective order.
As of yet to date, the nocontact order that the
magistrate in Petersburg feltstrongly enough to issue for a
minor has not been delivered,and that child has been at
school and other students haveseen him.
And so I need assistance ingetting in retaining a lawyer
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that will fight the schoolsystem with me and the police
because my child is notprotected.
This has been going on, and nomatter what, the police didn't
do anything about the teachershowing up, neither did the
school system.
So, as a survivor of rape, Idon't know what this man's
background is.
We've already had teachersremoved from the school system
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for abusing special needsstudents.
So, if it's good enough for thisother young man to say he's
gonna show up at my house andrape me and be expelled, then
why isn't it good enough forthat teacher to be suspended for
coming to my house in violationof the Privacy Act of 1974?
He was not entitled to pull myaddress out of those records and
come to my house and confront mychild.
Then he failed to safeguard mychild by not reporting that
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incident.
And then approximately a weekand a half later, that same
child who has that incident inthat class tries to kill my son.
SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
And and so neither nobody has helped you.
No one.
SPEAKER_03 (18:57):
The Chesterfield Police Department pressed
charges against him, but that'sit.
I'm still I'm in limbo keepingmy kid home every day.
I got a barrage of phone callsfor people who want to be
reactive now, and only becausemy child's not at school.
Not because they called thepolice department to get this
child served, only because,well, Jaden missed fourth
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through fifth through sixth,whatever periods.
Jaden's not at school.
And the only person who'sadvocating for me is the
attendance lady at his school,Miss Walker.
SPEAKER_01 (19:28):
Okay.
So I was gonna ask, you know, doyou feel like the school
district is showing neglect forhis indifference, his race?
SPEAKER_03 (19:37):
Oh, let me tell you, at Vernon John's in the same
time period in question fromsixth through eighth grade, they
took all the special needsstudents and the behaviorally
challenged students and theylocked them in the gym and
called it Leadership Academy.
And those children had no gradesfor two nine-week periods.
And when I reported that to theschool board, my son reported it
again.
It was all hush-hush.
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It didn't get out of anybody.
Not even there were so manyparents who weren't even aware
that the reason their childrendidn't have grades in school was
they had been locked up in thegym for fight clubs.
They were letting childrenfight.
And then when we found out, letthe resource officer know what
was going on, what did they do?
They took the one officer whowas the perfect advocate for the
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children.
Officer Brown was wonderful.
She advocated for those childrenbecause she grew up the same
way.
So she knew what they needed.
And when she stood up for thechildren and stood against those
facilitators that were in theremistreating those children, they
took her off as a schoolresource officer.
And guess who the high schoolresource officer is?
The same ignorant, uneducatedofficer Cuba who did the
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investigation in the eighthgrade, talking about, well, when
we take this to adjudication, Isaid, you will not use language
like that about minor children,sir.
You will not be setting theseyoung princes and princesses up
for a life of habitual crime.
You are not gonna use words likeadjudicate because you are not a
judge.
And using words like adjudicatewith me is up the wrong alley.
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I'm a mandated reporter.
I will call CPS on every one ofyou facilitators in this room
who can't facilitate.
You can barely speak English andyou want to ask me a question.
No, sir.
See, when I'm at home, myvernacular with my family, yeah,
I ask a lot of questions athome.
But when I put on myprofessional face, I will come
and ask you for further details.
See, I know the difference andhow to present myself.
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But this is also the officerthat told me my son was too busy
trying to live a YN.
And for all of our audiencemembers who don't know what that
means, a young nigger lifestyle.
SPEAKER_01 (21:37):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (21:39):
While he's in high water pants, presenting the
worst of the worst to me,clothes too tight because he's
so concerned about what hesmells like that he can't do his
job as an officer of the peacebecause he's not keeping the
peace.
Then he wanted to let me knowhow my son had threatened to
shoot somebody.
I said, My son can be suspendedfor threatening, but my son does
have gun awareness.
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All of my children, I was amarksmanship instructor.
My children have uh gunawareness training.
They know not to mess with gunsand guns are not to play with,
and all my guns are locked.
But they do know that in this inthe case of an emergency, if I
unlock my gun case and you needto get to it, you know how to
fire on an aggressor.
Period.
I am a responsible parent.
But oh, he's oh, well, how do weknow that Jaden doesn't have
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access to the weapon?
I said, because he's sitting infront of you and he came and
told.
Because if he had access to agun, he would have shot this kid
because the kid keeps bullyinghim.
Trust with the level ofsuicidality I've had to deal
with in my child, that if he hadaccess to my gun, he would have
brought it to school and killedthat boy.
Because none of you, none ofyou, none of them have even
advocated for that boy to havemental health.
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I asked why they didn't have himevaluated by a forensic
psychologist when he wassuspended for this constant
sexualization.
Because in most places, uh,airdropping a picture of
somebody else's penis would havegotten a child that age as a
minor restricted from allelectronic devices and
monitored.
That didn't happen.
Because the school fails tofollow up every time because
they're overtaxed.
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They can't stand me because Ishow up and I'm not one of these
disadvantaged, unengagedstripper moms from who look,
they think I live right there inthe square apartments, that uh I
must be some kind of third-ratecitizen.
So I'm not even entitled as awoman of color to advocate for
my child because of thepresumption that where his bus
stop is is where he lives.
SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
And you know, that that is so true what you say
now.
I live in another county wherethey do not, they do not tell.
I mean, even a look a child, Ihave been fighting for my
grandson going to the schoolsystem up here in uh in Hanover
County.
And it's like, where is youryour policies are so jacked up
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that you'd rather send a childto Georgetown or to one of these
schools for defendingthemselves?
SPEAKER_03 (23:59):
Exactly.
That's insane.
My kid has been beat up.
Look, the bus driver in sixthgrade told him your black ass
doesn't live over there in thosehouses, dropped him off at
Crater Square.
Or excuse me, when he wouldn'tget off at the house closer,
he's like, No, I live backthere.
So rather than come through todrop my child off, they drove my
child, my child back to VernonJohns and left him there.
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I have a plethora of policereports from the from when he
started sixth grade to now.
SPEAKER_01 (24:26):
And this is amazing.
Not one person, not one personhas reached out to try to help
you.
Let me ask you um theaccountability that you're
seeking from uh both the schooldistrict and the what
accountability?
What are you what do you wantfrom them at this point?
SPEAKER_03 (24:46):
Mental health, safeguards for children.
I'm tired of children gettingsuspended with no mandatory
mental health care.
I'm tired of the BS.
You can talk to their parentsall day.
Johnny is not going to time out.
His mother is dead, his fatheris in jail.
His grandfather is not gonna putin the time that it takes to get
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to the organic problems thatthis child has as to why he's
picking on my child.
Mandatory mental health care.
That is the only way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
I agree with that because my grandson was, you
know, he's a small kid and hewas protecting himself from a
well-known bully.
Exactly.
Threw his little self all up,but he would not back down.
And we we teach our childrenlike, hey, don't worry about it
until someone hits you, tillsomebody does something to you.
But when you have a bully thatyou've known for the longest.
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Yes, and it's a stamp.
If you want to keep him on thefootball team trouble, because
he gets to commit domesticviolence.
SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
So when he beats his wife, who's at fault?
When he grows up to beat hiswife and his neighbors, who's at
fault?
Those administrators who knewthat he had these behaviors
towards other children, and oh,but he's got a troubled life.
Well, get him to someone who cantalk about his troubled life.
The football game is not healinghim.
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And see, when we have peoplewhose whose divested interests
come from, oh, if we get him inactive in after school sports,
do that after counseling.
SPEAKER_01 (26:14):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
Let that be a modality of therapy after we get
to the root cause of why he'sabusing other children.
See, we got it backwards.
We want to put him on thesoftball team, put him on the
football team because once he'sinvolved in extracurriculars,
he'll stop being a bully.
No, because if he's gettingbullied at home, maybe a
forensic psychologist needs toknow hey, this family might look
okay, but there's trouble in thehome because let's face it too,
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there are a lot of well-to-dochildren that have more strife
in their home than some of ourchildren that come from poor
families.
And unfortunately, it's alwayshaving to do with us people of
color.
My child right now has a singleparent more attentive than
anyone of these two parenthouseholds who are constantly
fighting, getting arrestedbecause they're beating each
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other in front.
And I'm trying to understand howif you know that mom's name
looks like it's methany, and youknow she's coming in scratching
her scabs from heroin, her teethare all smoked out from meth,
but she at the school every day,wouldn't you call CPS because
you see this mother who isobviously struggling?
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Because if nothing else, usingCPS for what it was meant for,
it was meant to be intercessory.
It was meant to be intercessory.
Do you need additional benefits?
But again, let's talk about ourCPS workers who villainize these
parents who actually need help.
If someone has substance abuseproblems, look, I used to work
at CSAC.
I am a substance, I am a drugdemand reduction coordinator by
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trade, as uh one of the hats Iwore in the Marine Corps.
If we villainize people insteadof get them help and provide the
subsequent Al Anon, Narconon,the support to their families as
a whole, if we don't starttreating addictions and these
familial breakdowns as a whole,this continues.
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The school bully got problems athome.
So I'm supposed to feel sorryfor him because he killed my
kid.
Um, I'm sorry, but as a parent,I'm gonna struggle with that.
But then when I'm able to detachmyself from it and look through
my clinician's eyes as aclinical social worker, which I
had to stop because of stufflike this, because it is not
enough for well-to-do parents toplace their children in programs
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that perpetuate their bullinessby putting them in leadership
positions.
Now they're the lead bully.
SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
Yes.
Yes.
And I so agree with everythingthat you're saying.
Again, you know, we have, youknow, said thank thank God
because my grandson was told,hey, meet me somewhere, but he
did not experience what your sonhas experienced where he was
almost murdered.
And this young man happened tobe raised, was being raised by
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his grandmother as my grandson.
I was not raising him, but meand my daughter was partnering,
raising him because he loves me.
But you know, I didn't bringhim, you know.
We have we both, my sister, weboth have served in the
military.
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (29:03):
And the difference between us as grandparents and
these 70, 80-year-oldgrandparents were teenagers.
That's insane.
That would be like me telling mymother at 74 years old, I need
you to raise my child.
My mother has raised herchildren, my mother can assist
with lecture and laurel.
Yes, where 70-year-old people tobe getting bullied by their own
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kids because let's face it,their kids didn't do well.
Let's be honest and let's stop,let's stop putting a pretty
coating of icing on the poo-poocupcake.
Because the bottom line is theparents that failed now have
relied on the parents thatalready raised them to do a job
they're ill equipped to do asgeriatrics.
You cannot raise a teenager thatis already talking back and has
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an attitude and leave your keycar keys and effectively think
that if the if you have alreadyallowed this child to drive and
you leave in car keys and youalready know this child is prone
to mischief, then you areprobably.
Of the problem, and that in thiscase, his grandfather.
Because I know me as agrandmother right now, if I
needed to jump in and help withthe six-year-old, but at 54, I'm
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a different grandma.
I can help there.
I have a 16-year-old child at54, so I'm good.
So I can assist other teenageparents because I also have
grown children.
SPEAKER_01 (30:21):
But we're not 67.
You know what?
That that that is so me.
I don't my children are allcapable of raising their own
children.
Exactly.
I am here to guide, lead, andmentor.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (30:34):
We graduate to the leadership role that requires us
to only set the footsteps.
We have already raised them inthe way, and they should abide.
Abide.
I raised you how I was supposedto raise you.
And if you've not been to jail,thank you.
Good job.
So you should be capable ofproviding the same for your
progeny.
SPEAKER_01 (30:54):
What do they say?
It takes a village to raisechildren.
And I think if we allcollectively came together to
watch out for each other, thisis why it sickened sickens me to
hear your story.
And I'm so glad that you came onthis platform to expose the
wrongdoing because I cannotbelieve, and in Petersburg now,
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mind you, because see you're inthe city.
I'm in the county.
Exactly.
It's totally different.
SPEAKER_03 (31:21):
Totally, because when I was in Henraiko County,
let me tell you something (31:24):
the resources, the teachers,
anything that happened there,let me give a shout out to
everyone at Varina High Schoolwho supported my babies through
everything.
When my son left school to takecare of me, let me tell you, my
middle son, I had cancer.
I had no one to take care of me.
My child went to his guidancecounselor and said, Can I drop
out of school?
But I need assistance.
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I need to take my mother fortreatment.
Do you know that his guidancecounselor assisted him with
getting his GED so he could takeme?
So he actually graduated beforehis friends, but he was also
instrumental in my recovery fromcancer.
So I know what can be done.
But Petersburg City Schools is afestering hotbed of bad
attitudes.
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They don't, there's a handful ofpeople who do care, but the
general attitude is if thosepeople speak up, they they get
ostracized.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
And this is why you have to be exactly.
Let me tell you, no pressureinto feelings.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Miss Field's the principal.
I know had this gotten to herbefore I had to call her on
Friday and I'm waiting to getback because she is the
principal.
When she stepped in when thestuff happened with Vernon
Johns, I was grateful.
Then they move her to the highschool because it's not good
enough to leave theadministrator that's cleaning up
the mess in the middle school.
No, we're gonna move her to thehigh school because the same
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problems that were there fromsixth grade on.
Oh, let's let's look atprogression, sixth, seventh,
eight, ninth.
So you're just gonna move herwith the problem, children,
instead of allow her to build aframework to prevent this stuff
from happening and uh bring inanother force at the high school
or reinforce the training there,piggyback off the middle school
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training, do some kind oftraining where you can identify
hey, if this kid has a patternof misconduct that requires a
forensic evaluation before theyreturn to school.
SPEAKER_01 (33:15):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
Three times strike, they need to see a psychologist.
And that's not that's not that'snot up to anybody else.
If your child has a pattern ofmisconduct and has not been
diagnosed with a disabilityunder the DSM 5, then they will
need to see a forensicpsychologist to find out what
the origin of their dysfunctionis before they can safely return
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to school.
This would have blocked outseveral school shootings because
as we look back in retrospect,no school shooter has ever had a
blemish-free record.
They'd either been bullied orbeen the bully.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (33:52):
So if we don't proactively, but then then then
um uh unfortunately we're gonnahave to look at, we're gonna
have to get into the currentclimate.
Current climate.
Now we're taking away basichealth care.
What about these kids who dohave what about these kids who
were substance abuse born, whohave medication that they now
can't pick up?
How much is school violencegoing to escalate because these
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kids can't get their meds?
Some of these children are onadult regimes of medicine.
SPEAKER_01 (34:18):
Yeah.
You're you are speaking somefacts to the case.
SPEAKER_03 (34:23):
And the problem with that is too, why do not why our
healthcare at work or at school,our school nurses are not
equipped for this.
And if the school psychologistis qualified to administer a
test, maybe we need a little bithigher degree of psychologists,
that same psychologist thatconsidered the VA and write me a
prescription for medication, formedication management.
Because maybe these kids gettingswitched on medication, not
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being reported in their weeklymood swings.
Because if you change a childfrom Paxel to uh another drug,
or if you change it from brandname, well, butrin, to the
doggone generic, those aredifferent fillers.
Who's to say that they're gonnarespond appropriately?
So if we know that, oh, this kidhas a whole bunch of problems,
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but we don't have that document,and the school nurse doesn't
know, hey, this week Johnnychanged his medication, so he
might be out of pocket, he mightneed to leave the classroom.
Because, see, they were quickwhen they wanted my kids on
stibulants.
And when I said I'm not puttingmy child on methamphetamine, so
you can have more comfort inyour classroom.
Because I was already on it asan adult.
Adderall is methamphetamine.
And the withdrawal symptoms thatchildren feel are the same as
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people withdrawing from meth.
So when kids go without theirADD medication, they are
withdrawing from clinical grademethamphetamine.
But nobody wants to talk aboutthat either.
So we're building a society ofaddicted youth because we don't
have the time to actually get tothe bottom of the problem.
So let's medicate him.
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Let's let's let's thwart hisaggressiveness by putting him on
some medication.
Let's put him on well butrein,let's stack that with Adderall.
Then we're gonna stack that withAbilify because he can't
function.
Now he can't sleep because he'son stimulants and let's create
this cycle.
So then Big Pharma is making awhole lot of money off poor
people.
A lot of money gives.
That's right.
A whole lot of money offMedicaid when talk therapy, ABA
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therapy, applied behavioraltherapy amongst their peers, and
a requirement for an a 504behavior plan and a
psychological evaluation.
See if we stop using the IEPsystem and the 504 system as a
punishment and use it as apreventative measure, because it
is preventative.
If your punishment is you haveto get your kid evaluated since
you're a non non-participatingparent, then hold those parents
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accountable.
See, because I know for me, Iwould have been 100% you could
have called the court on mebecause I took my child
everywhere he needed to go whenhe started to display behaviors
that I found were not conducivewith a happy child.
But the bullies, oh well, he hadto be taught to bully.
Who's gonna unteach him?
Hey everybody, welcome to B3U.
And I have with me the MissBeautiful Naomi.
Naomi, how are you?
SPEAKER_03 (00:21):
Hi, it's Naoki.
Nayoki.
It's okay, but Naomi is the isthe equivalent.
It's the girl's name.
I actually have a Japanese man'sname.
Yes, I'm a quarter Japanese.
So Watashiwa Ano Nao Kidday saidthose are yours, too.
That means hi.
My name is Naoki.
It's nice to meet you.
So um that'll be part of ourmore in-depth and and deep
(00:45):
conversation because all thisethnic mix kind of there's some
stuff out there that we'remissing with all of this stuff
for us as people.
SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
So yes, I amazing.
So before we begin, um, how areyou holding up um as a mother
right now?
We all know your your situation.
Well, my viewers don't know, buttell us how you're holding up
and tell us a little bit aboutyour story and your son, Jaden.
SPEAKER_03 (01:14):
So we'll have to go back to the sixth grade.
Um, we moved here from the fromuh Varina.
I used to live over that way,and um he had a really
supportive environment.
My son is 16 years old now, buthe has autism.
And being a young man of colorwith autism, you know, he's got
some additional challenges thatmight not necessarily be obvious
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because he's high functioning,so his emotional issues are the
ones that are more uh prevalent.
So because he's not uh speech orlanguage delayed, there's a
preconceived notion with somepeople in the current school
system in Petersburg that, and Iquote, ain't nothing wrong with
him that a good ass womancouldn't fix.
And so I I I I I take explicitoffense to that because I'm also
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autistic, so are his brother andhis sister.
So having to fight the schoolsystem when I left Varina coming
here and let him know that Jadenis autistic.
Now, Jayden is a little bitgifted because Jaden also plays
acoustic guitar.
He was being taught by hisbrother, who is also self-taught
and in a band.
So, you know, it it was thejuxtaposition of seeing what my
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child can do as opposed to theirperception of my child when he
has like executive shutdown.
If there's too much stimulus,Jaden will shut down.
He will go to sleep like a baby.
So I'm constantly having tofight these people who are
telling me ain't nothing wrongwith him, because the prevalent
attitude amongst my ownconstituency here in Petersburg
(02:44):
is that if you're black, theycan talk to you and your
children however they want to,because part of our demographic
is, oh girl, you know it takes afamily.
Um, but you're not my family.
And when you don't have the samevalues I have as far as my
family, when you have a wholenother background I'm not
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familiar with, then I don't havea level of comfort in an
assumption that just becausewe're black, we believe the same
things.
Like my my son, uh initially, mydaughter has some friends who
are trans.
And so we're we're we we're Pflag, we support things, even
though we may not agree withwhatever lifestyle, each and
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every life is to be respected.
So he went to stand up for ayoung lady who identifies as
trans.
And at first, before finding outthat it was the child of color,
standing up for this otherperson, because he he knows that
his sister has a friend who'strans, who is an adult, who he
understands.
So he feels a sense ofobligation to protect other
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people.
Meanwhile, he's been victimized.
So immediately the school that'sthe first call of the gear is
that Jaden's problematic, but Iknow better.
So I get there and there's justthese constant steps of they
want it's difficult for mebecause here in a predominant in
an environment where he'spredominantly amongst his other
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people of color, I would haveexpected a better attitude, but
it's not.
We have them using language likewhen the children are in
trouble, you go in for a meetingor you're fighting for an IEP
meeting where they're saying,well, what makes you think he's
autistic?
Well, first of all, we won'teven get into my qualifications
as to why, as a licensedclinical social worker in the
past, I would I could administerthe same Wexler that I'm needing
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you to give to my child.
But I don't feel that it shouldalways have to be a battle
because everyone in theadministrative staff wants to
take the low road.
They don't want to work, theywant to not pay attention to
parents being in the hallwayswhile the classes are changing
and overhearing these negativeattitudes.
And, you know, they're talkingto the children probably the
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same way they talk to theirchildren, but I don't talk to my
child like that.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (04:56):
And so going back to the sixth grade, this young man
who assaulted my son, it startedin sixth grade.
They were in the bathroom and heairdropped a picture of my son's
penis to other students, havingtold them he was gonna do it.
Oh, I'll get a picture of his,you know what, using all the
language that young kids like toexperiment with when they're not
at home.
And so he did.
He airdropped a picture of myson's penis.
(05:17):
So initially we had um, I thinkit was the middle school
principal from Short Pump.
So they took a woman, a whitewoman from the middle of a
affluent environment and stuckher in Petersburg for a few
weeks.
I'm sure she has PTSD because Iwas not the parent to mess with.
When I showed up, I said, I'mgonna need you to show me the
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phone when my son sent a pictureof his penis to anyone.
My son does not even changeclothes, hated the idea of
dressing out for PE, isautistic.
Body shaming is an issue withus.
He scars to where, you know, wehave dogs and we have grass and
we have land.
He goes out and plays with thedogs.
Anything that bites him putsscars on his legs.
So he's very sensitive about hiswhole body appearance.
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So when I challenged her, thenall of a sudden, then oh, oh,
we're sorry.
SPEAKER_01 (06:05):
So again, Jada So now let me ask you, Naoki.
So you're you're you said youhave mixed races, so you're
indigenous, yes, Japanese, yes,Creole.
SPEAKER_03 (06:17):
I'm from Louisiana, so I'm French, black, Irish,
Italian, Algerian, yeah, andJapanese.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
So when they talk and your son as well, right?
So exactly.
And so this kid, this young boy,his race is uh he's white.
SPEAKER_03 (06:37):
Okay, and you know, understanding that I I I am
empathetic to the fact that thisis a young white student in a
predominantly black school.
But I would have been moreempathetic had he been the one
not doing the victimizing.
Now, the young man,unfortunately, his mother has
passed from drugs, his father'sin jail for drugs, and his
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grandfather is the custodialparent, and that he's too busy
being a friend.
So these things they kept going.
And so from sixth grade with thepicture of the penis, then it
was in the eighth grade, anotherbathroom altercation where he
tells Jaden that uh he's gonnacome to the house and kill Jaden
and rape me.
So Jaden said, if you come to myhouse, I'll shoot you.
(07:20):
So then I'm back at school againbecause my son has expressed the
fact that he's going to protecthis mother.
So Jaden gets suspended.
This kid gets suspended.
Then we move up into eighthgrade.
So the final coup de grace is apicture of Jaden having a bowel
movement that he airdrops again.
And so I pulled Jaden out ofschool.
I took him to District 19 forcounseling because when I sent,
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I asked if he could go speak tothe school counselor at the high
school, or excuse me, at the atoh yeah, this was at the middle
school.
Excuse me, I'm getting ahead ofmyself.
At the middle school, um, thecounselor basically was not
interested.
Oh, well, he needs somepsychological assistance.
So he had already been on theexceptional family member
program having autism.
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None of the resources thatshould have been available for
him as an autistic student wereavailable other than having
extra time to take his tests,which none of the teachers
wanted to implement because ittakes time away from the rest of
the classroom.
So he's been beat up by teachersand beat up by students for
being slow, retarded.
Uh, I don't have time for you tohave you test with every you're
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gonna test with everybody else.
I don't have time for you to beslow.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
Well, and this is in the city of Petersburg.
SPEAKER_03 (08:30):
Yes, ma'am.
So when I took Petersburg atVernon Johns Middle School to
the school board, all of asudden everybody becomes
complicit and backing downbecause during COVID, while he
was at home with me, he was anhonor roll student.
While he's there being abused byother students and bullied, he
can't get his work done becausehe's autistic.
And then they schedule IEPmeetings when they want to.
(08:52):
And then I have to deal with analcoholic case manager who shows
up reeking, eyes, bloodshot,jaundice, and then is constantly
uh attacking me in the IP.
Are you is that a personalattack?
And then you can see on thevideo when you walk out of
school, the man comes up to hugme afterwards.
So being gaslit while my son'sbeing abused, I pulled him out
(09:15):
of school.
Then the beginning of ninthgrade year, I let them know he's
not coming to school until Ihave a safety plan at the high
school.
Well, at the time, uh, Ms.
The student in question's nameis he's already been charged.
So uh I don't know what ifthere's any legalities about
releasing the name of a minor,but a minor that has attempted
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to murder another child, peopleneed to know who he is and keep
their children safe from him inPetersburg because he is still
at school.
SPEAKER_00 (09:44):
Oh wow.
SPEAKER_03 (09:44):
After this incident, I guess they expelled him for
whatever reason.
So he wasn't there at thebeginning of ninth grade.
He came back to school with theintent to seek revenge on Jaden
because me being a big mouth,his mom's big ass mouth is part
of the reason I got kicked outof school.
So I'm gonna fuck him up.
So students knew about this.
Students knew about this workingup to it.
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So Paul gets back this year intenth grade, and Jaden has
already chosen his auto shopbox.
SPEAKER_01 (10:11):
So we're talking four years.
SPEAKER_03 (10:13):
Yes, ma'am, from sixth grade to 10th grade
because he was gone for themajority of ninth grade, but
Jaden was already picked on bythe other members of that little
group.
So the ringleader comes backthis year, and I find out that
they're in the same fourth boxclass and I write a note.
I write a note and call theschool and let them know I want
Jaden out of that class.
(10:34):
I don't like that child.
That child is not properlysupervised, and all he did was
get a break from school.
He's still a bully.
So Jaden and Paul get into analtercation in the classroom a
few weeks back, leading to thefourth block teacher taking it
upon himself to go and get mypersonal address, violate PII
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and the Privacy Act of 1974, getmy address and then tell instead
of telling other administratorswhat had occurred, the man shows
up to my house to talk to myminor child without me present,
sends me a message via text tomessage or text now, text wow,
some application.
If you are a teacher and you donot have a means by which your
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parents can contact you duringthe day, then you don't go
anywhere.
You damn sure don't show up atmy house.
So then when I called the policedepartment to let them know and
make an incident report and callthe school, I got no reaction.
So this is the same fourth blockin which he and Paul have had
this altercation, in which Pauldecides well, whatever prompted
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happened prompted this teacherto come to my house to talk to
my son, not me.
Put my minor child out on myporch to talk to him.
So I called the police, I calledthe school.
No one got back to me until thisincident that occurred on the
2nd of October.
So Paul has had this time tobuild up his revenge against
Jaden.
(12:03):
So for two weeks prior to that,pretended he and Jaden were
friends, comes by him andgrandpa are picking Jaden up,
driving him to school together.
Well, on the 2nd of October, hetook grandpa's other vehicle, a
white Mustang, having only alearner's permit after he had
told other children, I'm gonnabeat his black ass to death and
let him drown.
That nigga's not gonna reach 16.
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Drove him out to a waterfall,knew to cross over from
Petersburg to ChesterfieldCounty to commit said crime.
Drives my son to the waterfall,and after consuming marijuana
like idiots, because Jadenthought all his friends were
gonna meet him for his birthday.
So my kid wasn't perfect, but mykid did not deserve to almost be
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murdered.
So this child lured him out withthe marijuana, lets him know,
okay, we gotta smoke together.
Oh, Jaden's asking where theother kids are gonna be.
Well, first we gotta smoke forthis pack.
They smoke marijuana, andapparently the young man gets
too high to fully execute hisplan to kill my son because my
son can fight back.
SPEAKER_01 (13:05):
Let me so let me be let me get a little clarity.
Jay, they Jaden went along withhim, even though he was a foe.
Yeah, he was a friend.
SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
And believe in things, yes, believe in.
Oh, well, we've matured and weburied this hatchet.
So my son is trying to stepforward and be a uh an
upstanding young man.
But meanwhile, young.
SPEAKER_01 (13:31):
So he wanted to be friends, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (13:33):
He wanted to do the right thing and move forward and
have that little shop classtogether.
So he's taking the opportunityto talk to Paul about cars,
which are a favorite thing ofhis.
So his autism button is pressedand it's a in a good way.
So he's sharing all theinformation about these cars and
all this good stuff with Paul.
Meanwhile, Paul is letting otherkids know.
Hey, send me some gas moneybecause I'm gonna beat the I'm
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gonna beat his ass.
SPEAKER_01 (13:56):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (13:57):
So he takes him out to a park, takes him out to a
park to a waterfall, commencesto beating Jaden Let him know.
I'm gonna beat your black assand let you drown.
Proceeds while he's beating himto let him know that the house
we live in, because I don't livein crater square apartments, I
don't live in a trailer park.
Not that those are bad places tolive, but that's not where we
live.
So he's angry that my black sonhas more than him, has a parent.
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But rather than wanting to be myson's friend and see that
there's enough mom in me to goaround.
And it doesn't matter what coloryou are, you're welcome in my
home if you're a friend of mychild.
And that has been the way all mychildren are raised.
He has an issue with what lifehas dealt them because of the
choices that his family made.
But he's taken them out on mychild so much so since sixth
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grade, and then tells my son,Well, you were easily
fuckwithable.
That was new language for mebecause my son wore cowboy boots
and a cowboy hat because asindigenous Afro-Indigenous
people from Texas and Louisiana,that might be what we wear.
SPEAKER_00 (15:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (15:03):
I mean, we do on my uncle's farm, um, we do get on
horses and we do break otherhorses, and we got a whole hog
farm.
I'm not wearing sneakers on ahog farm.
I'm sorry.
The poop boots is the bootsthat's getting worn on the farm.
So my children have been exposedto country life as
(15:24):
Afro-Indigenous people.
So urban, urban ignorance is notsomething he's akin to, but he's
a he's well versed with allkinds of music.
So then it was the the the weekbefore he wore a Metallica
t-shirt.
And so the young man assumedthat because my son was black,
my son could not listen toMetallica.
He's like, that's my mom'sfavorite band.
SPEAKER_01 (15:46):
Look, my Metallica, don't get me started with James.
Come on, honey.
SPEAKER_02 (15:51):
That's our that is our deployment grind music.
You know, the hero of the day.
We know we're coming up.
One was my favorite album.
SPEAKER_03 (16:01):
Oh, yes, come on.
And they don't understand thatat our age in the 80s and 90s,
we we were getting along.
We was doing a lot of goodthings.
MC Hammer, everybody loved them.
When we were in school,everybody was trying to get
along.
We were holding hands, handsacross America.
We was all giving everybody acoke and a smile.
This degenerate backtrackinghappened somewhere in the
(16:22):
mid-90s.
unknown (16:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
So let's let's get to the the whole part while
we're we are currentlyfundraising with for Jaden
because he took your son out tothe park.
Yes, had him take had him, youknow, uh smoke a uh a substance,
we marijuana, and it happened.
SPEAKER_03 (16:43):
Then he proceeded to start to beat him to death, and
his intent was to beat him todeath and push him in the
waterfall and let him drown.
And had my kid, had I not put myson in jujitsu.
This young man is five footseven, he's as tall as me and
weighs 270 pounds.
(17:05):
My baby is five foot four, fivefive, a hundred and nine, if so
if you could imagine theequivalent of a whole nother
parent meeting my child, and hegot away and he found a young
man running on the the runner'spath.
(17:26):
And had it not been for thosegood Samaritans, we might on
October 3rd on my baby's 16thbirthday, he might have been
missing.
SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (17:35):
And my problems lie not only with the school system
that let it happen, but theinability between two
jurisdictions to serve aprotective order.
As of yet to date, the nocontact order that the
magistrate in Petersburg feltstrongly enough to issue for a
minor has not been delivered,and that child has been at
school and other students haveseen him.
And so I need assistance ingetting in retaining a lawyer
(17:59):
that will fight the schoolsystem with me and the police
because my child is notprotected.
This has been going on, and nomatter what, the police didn't
do anything about the teachershowing up, neither did the
school system.
So, as a survivor of rape, Idon't know what this man's
background is.
We've already had teachersremoved from the school system
(18:20):
for abusing special needsstudents.
So, if it's good enough for thisother young man to say he's
gonna show up at my house andrape me and be expelled, then
why isn't it good enough forthat teacher to be suspended for
coming to my house in violationof the Privacy Act of 1974?
He was not entitled to pull myaddress out of those records and
come to my house and confront mychild.
Then he failed to safeguard mychild by not reporting that
(18:41):
incident.
And then approximately a weekand a half later, that same
child who has that incident inthat class tries to kill my son.
SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
And and so neither nobody has helped you.
No one.
SPEAKER_03 (18:57):
The Chesterfield Police Department pressed
charges against him, but that'sit.
I'm still I'm in limbo keepingmy kid home every day.
I got a barrage of phone callsfor people who want to be
reactive now, and only becausemy child's not at school.
Not because they called thepolice department to get this
child served, only because,well, Jaden missed fourth
(19:18):
through fifth through sixth,whatever periods.
Jaden's not at school.
And the only person who'sadvocating for me is the
attendance lady at his school,Miss Walker.
SPEAKER_01 (19:28):
Okay.
So I was gonna ask, you know, doyou feel like the school
district is showing neglect forhis indifference, his race?
SPEAKER_03 (19:37):
Oh, let me tell you, at Vernon John's in the same
time period in question fromsixth through eighth grade, they
took all the special needsstudents and the behaviorally
challenged students and theylocked them in the gym and
called it Leadership Academy.
And those children had no gradesfor two nine-week periods.
And when I reported that to theschool board, my son reported it
again.
It was all hush-hush.
(19:57):
It didn't get out of anybody.
Not even there were so manyparents who weren't even aware
that the reason their childrendidn't have grades in school was
they had been locked up in thegym for fight clubs.
They were letting childrenfight.
And then when we found out, letthe resource officer know what
was going on, what did they do?
They took the one officer whowas the perfect advocate for the
(20:20):
children.
Officer Brown was wonderful.
She advocated for those childrenbecause she grew up the same
way.
So she knew what they needed.
And when she stood up for thechildren and stood against those
facilitators that were in theremistreating those children, they
took her off as a schoolresource officer.
And guess who the high schoolresource officer is?
The same ignorant, uneducatedofficer Cuba who did the
(20:44):
investigation in the eighthgrade, talking about, well, when
we take this to adjudication, Isaid, you will not use language
like that about minor children,sir.
You will not be setting theseyoung princes and princesses up
for a life of habitual crime.
You are not gonna use words likeadjudicate because you are not a
judge.
And using words like adjudicatewith me is up the wrong alley.
(21:05):
I'm a mandated reporter.
I will call CPS on every one ofyou facilitators in this room
who can't facilitate.
You can barely speak English andyou want to ask me a question.
No, sir.
See, when I'm at home, myvernacular with my family, yeah,
I ask a lot of questions athome.
But when I put on myprofessional face, I will come
and ask you for further details.
See, I know the difference andhow to present myself.
(21:27):
But this is also the officerthat told me my son was too busy
trying to live a YN.
And for all of our audiencemembers who don't know what that
means, a young nigger lifestyle.
SPEAKER_01 (21:37):
Wow.
SPEAKER_03 (21:39):
While he's in high water pants, presenting the
worst of the worst to me,clothes too tight because he's
so concerned about what hesmells like that he can't do his
job as an officer of the peacebecause he's not keeping the
peace.
Then he wanted to let me knowhow my son had threatened to
shoot somebody.
I said, My son can be suspendedfor threatening, but my son does
have gun awareness.
(22:00):
All of my children, I was amarksmanship instructor.
My children have uh gunawareness training.
They know not to mess with gunsand guns are not to play with,
and all my guns are locked.
But they do know that in this inthe case of an emergency, if I
unlock my gun case and you needto get to it, you know how to
fire on an aggressor.
Period.
I am a responsible parent.
But oh, he's oh, well, how do weknow that Jaden doesn't have
(22:23):
access to the weapon?
I said, because he's sitting infront of you and he came and
told.
Because if he had access to agun, he would have shot this kid
because the kid keeps bullyinghim.
Trust with the level ofsuicidality I've had to deal
with in my child, that if he hadaccess to my gun, he would have
brought it to school and killedthat boy.
Because none of you, none ofyou, none of them have even
advocated for that boy to havemental health.
(22:45):
I asked why they didn't have himevaluated by a forensic
psychologist when he wassuspended for this constant
sexualization.
Because in most places, uh,airdropping a picture of
somebody else's penis would havegotten a child that age as a
minor restricted from allelectronic devices and
monitored.
That didn't happen.
Because the school fails tofollow up every time because
they're overtaxed.
(23:06):
They can't stand me because Ishow up and I'm not one of these
disadvantaged, unengagedstripper moms from who look,
they think I live right there inthe square apartments, that uh I
must be some kind of third-ratecitizen.
So I'm not even entitled as awoman of color to advocate for
my child because of thepresumption that where his bus
stop is is where he lives.
SPEAKER_01 (23:27):
And you know, that that is so true what you say
now.
I live in another county wherethey do not, they do not tell.
I mean, even a look a child, Ihave been fighting for my
grandson going to the schoolsystem up here in uh in Hanover
County.
And it's like, where is youryour policies are so jacked up
(23:53):
that you'd rather send a childto Georgetown or to one of these
schools for defendingthemselves?
SPEAKER_03 (23:59):
Exactly.
That's insane.
My kid has been beat up.
Look, the bus driver in sixthgrade told him your black ass
doesn't live over there in thosehouses, dropped him off at
Crater Square.
Or excuse me, when he wouldn'tget off at the house closer,
he's like, No, I live backthere.
So rather than come through todrop my child off, they drove my
child, my child back to VernonJohns and left him there.
(24:20):
I have a plethora of policereports from the from when he
started sixth grade to now.
SPEAKER_01 (24:26):
And this is amazing.
Not one person, not one personhas reached out to try to help
you.
Let me ask you um theaccountability that you're
seeking from uh both the schooldistrict and the what
accountability?
What are you what do you wantfrom them at this point?
SPEAKER_03 (24:46):
Mental health, safeguards for children.
I'm tired of children gettingsuspended with no mandatory
mental health care.
I'm tired of the BS.
You can talk to their parentsall day.
Johnny is not going to time out.
His mother is dead, his fatheris in jail.
His grandfather is not gonna putin the time that it takes to get
(25:09):
to the organic problems thatthis child has as to why he's
picking on my child.
Mandatory mental health care.
That is the only way.
SPEAKER_01 (25:17):
I agree with that because my grandson was, you
know, he's a small kid and hewas protecting himself from a
well-known bully.
Exactly.
Threw his little self all up,but he would not back down.
And we we teach our childrenlike, hey, don't worry about it
until someone hits you, tillsomebody does something to you.
But when you have a bully thatyou've known for the longest.
(25:38):
Yes, and it's a stamp.
If you want to keep him on thefootball team trouble, because
he gets to commit domesticviolence.
SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
So when he beats his wife, who's at fault?
When he grows up to beat hiswife and his neighbors, who's at
fault?
Those administrators who knewthat he had these behaviors
towards other children, and oh,but he's got a troubled life.
Well, get him to someone who cantalk about his troubled life.
The football game is not healinghim.
(26:06):
And see, when we have peoplewhose whose divested interests
come from, oh, if we get him inactive in after school sports,
do that after counseling.
SPEAKER_01 (26:14):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (26:15):
Let that be a modality of therapy after we get
to the root cause of why he'sabusing other children.
See, we got it backwards.
We want to put him on thesoftball team, put him on the
football team because once he'sinvolved in extracurriculars,
he'll stop being a bully.
No, because if he's gettingbullied at home, maybe a
forensic psychologist needs toknow hey, this family might look
okay, but there's trouble in thehome because let's face it too,
(26:38):
there are a lot of well-to-dochildren that have more strife
in their home than some of ourchildren that come from poor
families.
And unfortunately, it's alwayshaving to do with us people of
color.
My child right now has a singleparent more attentive than
anyone of these two parenthouseholds who are constantly
fighting, getting arrestedbecause they're beating each
(26:58):
other in front.
And I'm trying to understand howif you know that mom's name
looks like it's methany, and youknow she's coming in scratching
her scabs from heroin, her teethare all smoked out from meth,
but she at the school every day,wouldn't you call CPS because
you see this mother who isobviously struggling?
(27:18):
Because if nothing else, usingCPS for what it was meant for,
it was meant to be intercessory.
It was meant to be intercessory.
Do you need additional benefits?
But again, let's talk about ourCPS workers who villainize these
parents who actually need help.
If someone has substance abuseproblems, look, I used to work
at CSAC.
I am a substance, I am a drugdemand reduction coordinator by
(27:40):
trade, as uh one of the hats Iwore in the Marine Corps.
If we villainize people insteadof get them help and provide the
subsequent Al Anon, Narconon,the support to their families as
a whole, if we don't starttreating addictions and these
familial breakdowns as a whole,this continues.
(28:01):
The school bully got problems athome.
So I'm supposed to feel sorryfor him because he killed my
kid.
Um, I'm sorry, but as a parent,I'm gonna struggle with that.
But then when I'm able to detachmyself from it and look through
my clinician's eyes as aclinical social worker, which I
had to stop because of stufflike this, because it is not
enough for well-to-do parents toplace their children in programs
(28:21):
that perpetuate their bullinessby putting them in leadership
positions.
Now they're the lead bully.
SPEAKER_01 (28:27):
Yes.
Yes.
And I so agree with everythingthat you're saying.
Again, you know, we have, youknow, said thank thank God
because my grandson was told,hey, meet me somewhere, but he
did not experience what your sonhas experienced where he was
almost murdered.
And this young man happened tobe raised, was being raised by
(28:48):
his grandmother as my grandson.
I was not raising him, but meand my daughter was partnering,
raising him because he loves me.
But you know, I didn't bringhim, you know.
We have we both, my sister, weboth have served in the
military.
Right?
SPEAKER_03 (29:03):
And the difference between us as grandparents and
these 70, 80-year-oldgrandparents were teenagers.
That's insane.
That would be like me telling mymother at 74 years old, I need
you to raise my child.
My mother has raised herchildren, my mother can assist
with lecture and laurel.
Yes, where 70-year-old people tobe getting bullied by their own
(29:26):
kids because let's face it,their kids didn't do well.
Let's be honest and let's stop,let's stop putting a pretty
coating of icing on the poo-poocupcake.
Because the bottom line is theparents that failed now have
relied on the parents thatalready raised them to do a job
they're ill equipped to do asgeriatrics.
You cannot raise a teenager thatis already talking back and has
(29:49):
an attitude and leave your keycar keys and effectively think
that if the if you have alreadyallowed this child to drive and
you leave in car keys and youalready know this child is prone
to mischief, then you areprobably.
Of the problem, and that in thiscase, his grandfather.
Because I know me as agrandmother right now, if I
needed to jump in and help withthe six-year-old, but at 54, I'm
(30:10):
a different grandma.
I can help there.
I have a 16-year-old child at54, so I'm good.
So I can assist other teenageparents because I also have
grown children.
SPEAKER_01 (30:21):
But we're not 67.
You know what?
That that that is so me.
I don't my children are allcapable of raising their own
children.
Exactly.
I am here to guide, lead, andmentor.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_03 (30:34):
We graduate to the leadership role that requires us
to only set the footsteps.
We have already raised them inthe way, and they should abide.
Abide.
I raised you how I was supposedto raise you.
And if you've not been to jail,thank you.
Good job.
So you should be capable ofproviding the same for your
progeny.
SPEAKER_01 (30:54):
What do they say?
It takes a village to raisechildren.
And I think if we allcollectively came together to
watch out for each other, thisis why it sickened sickens me to
hear your story.
And I'm so glad that you came onthis platform to expose the
wrongdoing because I cannotbelieve, and in Petersburg now,
(31:15):
mind you, because see you're inthe city.
I'm in the county.
Exactly.
It's totally different.
SPEAKER_03 (31:21):
Totally, because when I was in Henraiko County,
let me tell you something (31:24):
the resources, the teachers,
anything that happened there,let me give a shout out to
everyone at Varina High Schoolwho supported my babies through
everything.
When my son left school to takecare of me, let me tell you, my
middle son, I had cancer.
I had no one to take care of me.
My child went to his guidancecounselor and said, Can I drop
out of school?
But I need assistance.
(31:44):
I need to take my mother fortreatment.
Do you know that his guidancecounselor assisted him with
getting his GED so he could takeme?
So he actually graduated beforehis friends, but he was also
instrumental in my recovery fromcancer.
So I know what can be done.
But Petersburg City Schools is afestering hotbed of bad
attitudes.
(32:05):
They don't, there's a handful ofpeople who do care, but the
general attitude is if thosepeople speak up, they they get
ostracized.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
And this is why you have to be exactly.
Let me tell you, no pressureinto feelings.
SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Miss Field's the principal.
I know had this gotten to herbefore I had to call her on
Friday and I'm waiting to getback because she is the
principal.
When she stepped in when thestuff happened with Vernon
Johns, I was grateful.
Then they move her to the highschool because it's not good
enough to leave theadministrator that's cleaning up
the mess in the middle school.
No, we're gonna move her to thehigh school because the same
(32:45):
problems that were there fromsixth grade on.
Oh, let's let's look atprogression, sixth, seventh,
eight, ninth.
So you're just gonna move herwith the problem, children,
instead of allow her to build aframework to prevent this stuff
from happening and uh bring inanother force at the high school
or reinforce the training there,piggyback off the middle school
(33:06):
training, do some kind oftraining where you can identify
hey, if this kid has a patternof misconduct that requires a
forensic evaluation before theyreturn to school.
SPEAKER_01 (33:15):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
Three times strike, they need to see a psychologist.
And that's not that's not that'snot up to anybody else.
If your child has a pattern ofmisconduct and has not been
diagnosed with a disabilityunder the DSM 5, then they will
need to see a forensicpsychologist to find out what
the origin of their dysfunctionis before they can safely return
(33:37):
to school.
This would have blocked outseveral school shootings because
as we look back in retrospect,no school shooter has ever had a
blemish-free record.
They'd either been bullied orbeen the bully.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (33:52):
So if we don't proactively, but then then then
um uh unfortunately we're gonnahave to look at, we're gonna
have to get into the currentclimate.
Current climate.
Now we're taking away basichealth care.
What about these kids who dohave what about these kids who
were substance abuse born, whohave medication that they now
can't pick up?
How much is school violencegoing to escalate because these
(34:13):
kids can't get their meds?
Some of these children are onadult regimes of medicine.
SPEAKER_01 (34:18):
Yeah.
You're you are speaking somefacts to the case.
SPEAKER_03 (34:23):
And the problem with that is too, why do not why our
healthcare at work or at school,our school nurses are not
equipped for this.
And if the school psychologistis qualified to administer a
test, maybe we need a little bithigher degree of psychologists,
that same psychologist thatconsidered the VA and write me a
prescription for medication, formedication management.
Because maybe these kids gettingswitched on medication, not
(34:44):
being reported in their weeklymood swings.
Because if you change a childfrom Paxel to uh another drug,
or if you change it from brandname, well, butrin, to the
doggone generic, those aredifferent fillers.
Who's to say that they're gonnarespond appropriately?
So if we know that, oh, this kidhas a whole bunch of problems,
(35:05):
but we don't have that document,and the school nurse doesn't
know, hey, this week Johnnychanged his medication, so he
might be out of pocket, he mightneed to leave the classroom.
Because, see, they were quickwhen they wanted my kids on
stibulants.
And when I said I'm not puttingmy child on methamphetamine, so
you can have more comfort inyour classroom.
Because I was already on it asan adult.
Adderall is methamphetamine.
And the withdrawal symptoms thatchildren feel are the same as
(35:28):
people withdrawing from meth.
So when kids go without theirADD medication, they are
withdrawing from clinical grademethamphetamine.
But nobody wants to talk aboutthat either.
So we're building a society ofaddicted youth because we don't
have the time to actually get tothe bottom of the problem.
So let's medicate him.
(35:49):
Let's let's let's thwart hisaggressiveness by putting him on
some medication.
Let's put him on well butrein,let's stack that with Adderall.
Then we're gonna stack that withAbilify because he can't
function.
Now he can't sleep because he'son stimulants and let's create
this cycle.
So then Big Pharma is making awhole lot of money off poor
people.
A lot of money gives.
That's right.
A whole lot of money offMedicaid when talk therapy, ABA
(36:11):
therapy, applied behavioraltherapy amongst their peers, and
a requirement for an a 504behavior plan and a
psychological evaluation.
See if we stop using the IEPsystem and the 504 system as a
punishment and use it as apreventative measure, because it
is preventative.
If your punishment is you haveto get your kid evaluated since
you're a non non-participatingparent, then hold those parents
(36:33):
accountable.
See, because I know for me, Iwould have been 100% you could
have called the court on mebecause I took my child
everywhere he needed to go whenhe started to display behaviors
that I found were not conducivewith a happy child.
But the bullies, oh well, he hadto be taught to bully.
Who's gonna unteach him?
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